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Title: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Madd the Sane on November 02, 2006, 01:52:27 AM
So Devin was jealous of Abel's attention?  Poor poor kid  :tired
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Roureem Egas on November 02, 2006, 01:59:44 AM
Hmm...

I agree with the sentiments there. Must've been tough.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Zedd on November 02, 2006, 02:06:11 AM
Should had figured that would happened but i hope send some warm hugs for him...
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: RJ on November 02, 2006, 02:12:10 AM
Aw... who thought such a cute kid would grow up to be... well... yeah >.>
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: ITOS on November 02, 2006, 02:33:39 AM
Flash-back over? I wonder what Abel's reaction will be.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Zorro on November 02, 2006, 02:36:36 AM
Quote from: ITOS on November 02, 2006, 02:33:39 AM
Flash-back over? I wonder what Abel's reaction will be.

Astonishment.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Taross on November 02, 2006, 02:39:50 AM
I don't think he was jealous at the attention per-se; things run deeper than that.

Abel's got two parents, he has caretakers.
Abels parents love him, his ran off and the last one cursed him and said he'd be better of dead...

Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: komissarmakarov on November 02, 2006, 04:16:00 AM
Quote from: Taross on November 02, 2006, 02:39:50 AM
I don't think he was jealous at the attention per-se; things run deeper than that.

Abel's got two parents, he has caretakers.
Abels parents love him, his ran off and the last one cursed him and said he'd be better of dead...


The deepest of cuts, eh?  :cry Poor Devin...
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Aisha deCabre on November 02, 2006, 04:28:41 AM
Well...Devin definitely has the right to be a jerk.  Not to say that it could have been worse for him though...hard to imagine, but it could have been.  At least he's lived to grow old enough to make happiness for himself.

On a lighter note, someday I'm definitely learning how to do Sepia for comics...I love the effect on photographs.

Or I could just be lazy and turn everything grayscale in Photoshop after coloring it.    :U
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: ITOS on November 02, 2006, 04:40:49 AM
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on November 02, 2006, 04:28:41 AM
Well...Devin definitely has the right to be a jerk.

So he had a hard time. Does that give him the right to give everyone else a hard time?

Maybe I misinterpret you but I think this just gives us a reason to why he's acting like a jerk, not an excuse.

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Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Aisha deCabre on November 02, 2006, 04:50:28 AM
Quote from: ITOS on November 02, 2006, 04:40:49 AM
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on November 02, 2006, 04:28:41 AM
Well...Devin definitely has the right to be a jerk.

So he had a hard time. Does that give him the right to give everyone else a hard time?

Maybe I misinterpret you but I think this just gives us a reason to why he's acting like a jerk, not an excuse.

</itos>

Well, yeah, I didn't mean it as an excuse.  I was just saying.   :mowtongue It's not like people who know of someone with a life like that expects them to be all happy-sunshine.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Zedd on November 02, 2006, 05:11:26 AM
All I can say...The lad needs help now...
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 07:13:34 AM
Yeah but I have a theory here. What if Devin was not looking at Abel's family but at Abel's father think about this cid is Devin's dad that walked out on him.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: DigitalMan on November 02, 2006, 07:14:16 AM
Well, that clarifies many things. I think.

And doesn't PShop have an automatic sepia-tone function? :B
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 07:22:38 AM
I think that's it. Devin being close to Abel even as kids doing bad things to hurt him. To hurt his real father *ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh* Devin knows this from what I suspected that his mother described his father in detail.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: willow186129 on November 02, 2006, 07:37:56 AM
So sad and I really wanna give Devin a hug o_o Poor kid... :cry

But Cid in a flowery hat is priceless X3

I don't know....but I think if Cid really were Devin's father and Devin knew it, his reaction would probably be more shocked or angry than a little depressed.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 07:46:20 AM
But I think it's more anger and to get at his father is to torment his other son Abel.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Magic on November 02, 2006, 07:49:06 AM
That's a bit far fetched and it still wouldn't explain why he was sad instead of angry in the comic.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 07:58:04 AM
Quote from: Ink on November 02, 2006, 07:49:06 AM
That's a bit far fetched and it still wouldn't explain why he was sad instead of angry in the comic.

Think about this if your dad walked out on you and your mom is spouting off that you are responsible for her misfortune  and you lived and went off your your aunt and uncle no love. But suddenly you see a family all happy and content and the father you recognized as the father who walked out on you from the description from your mom before she went psyco on you. Then you take out his offspring in very evil ways which is your anger. Remember anger is something that is a very deep hurt . That's what is anger is all about.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: DigitalMan on November 02, 2006, 08:07:37 AM
Technically, anger its self doesn't have to come from any kind of deep hurt. I'm perfectly capable of going thermonuclear on any random idiot, no pain required. You may be thinking more towards hatred.

Also, we know that Amber is capable of making these characters express emotion precisely. If Devin were mad, he'd look mad. If he were surprised, he'd look surprised. And I can imagine exactly how that last frame would look if that were the case. But he's just sad, which grows into jealousy. It's pretty clear that "Hey... that guy there is my father!" is not what's going through his head.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Alondro on November 02, 2006, 09:34:47 AM
Well, we don't know if Cid is Devin's dad or simply his father's brother at this point.  Or if the relation is actually to his mother.  The actual lineage hasn't been spelled out, and too many of the characters have the ear-tufts to be sure who is who's direct sibling.   :3  Or maybe it's like the Pineys in NJ and they're all each other's cousin... and uncle, and aunt... at the same time...  :B
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Madmann135 on November 02, 2006, 09:52:10 AM
Devin is jealous pure and simple.  Jealousy makes men do strange things.

I'm jealous of a few friends of mine but I try not to show it.
And my jealousy is of some of the simple things.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Tait-Fox on November 02, 2006, 10:41:36 AM
Ouch... that has to be hurtful... first your dad leaves, your mom says she hates you then dies, then you live with people that don't love you but know they must take care of you.

Hes envious of Abel... he wants Abel's family, or to be in Abel's family.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: DigitalMan on November 02, 2006, 11:11:13 AM
It should also be noted that even jealousy doesn't require deep pain.

*watches the neighbor clear his lawn of leaves in seconds with some odd snowblower-like machine* muttermuttergrumble...

And what is with all the ear-tufts? That does make it confusing :dface
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Roureem Egas on November 02, 2006, 11:13:53 AM
Quote from: DigitalMan on November 02, 2006, 11:11:13 AM
It should also be noted that even jealousy doesn't require deep pain.

*watches the neighbor clear his lawn of leaves in seconds with some odd snowblower-like machine* muttermuttergrumble...

And what is with all the ear-tufts? That does make it confusing :dface

I think that was the point there. :3

If it wasn't confusing, it probably wouldn't be all that fun for Amber to watch us run around with one theory or another, since we'd probably be closer to what she planned.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Kenji on November 02, 2006, 11:15:38 AM
Obviously eartufts are just Furrae's version of muttonchops. Obviously.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 11:41:36 AM
Quote from: FireKatKid on November 02, 2006, 11:15:38 AM
Obviously eartufts are just Furrae's version of muttonchops. Obviously.

Really I thought it will be the pork chop sideburns like Elvis *Thank you , Thank you very much in Elvis voice*
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Aridas on November 02, 2006, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 07:58:04 AM
Quote from: Ink on November 02, 2006, 07:49:06 AM
That's a bit far fetched and it still wouldn't explain why he was sad instead of angry in the comic.

Think about this if your dad walked out on you and your mom is spouting off that you are responsible for her misfortune and you lived and went off your your aunt and uncle no love. But suddenly you see a family all happy and content and the father you recognized as the father who walked out on you from the description from your mom before she went psyco on you. Then you take out his offspring in very evil ways which is your anger. Remember anger is something that is a very deep hurt . That's what is anger is all about.
except... THAT WAS NEVER MENTIONED. Besides, Devin was a BABY. He never SAW his dad, as far as I can tell from the comic.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: terrycloth on November 02, 2006, 02:52:02 PM
Actually, Devin looked at Abel and his family and recognized his dad -- May, only in a female form this time...

Abel isn't against shapeshifting because his parent was a Cubi, it's because his mother was transgendered! The wings are a side effect of the powerful, permanent magic! He wasn't even a Cubi until he went to Zvinth and someone turned him while he was drunk! :U
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Toric on November 02, 2006, 03:29:11 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 02, 2006, 12:08:11 PM
Besides, Devin was a BABY. He never SAW his dad, as far as I can tell from the comic.

Thank you. My thoughts exactly.

The whole thing is most likely, as the thread title states, a matter of jealousy. Devin grew up with a lack of love, both of his parents left him blaming him as the source of their problems, and here Abel was with both his parents alive and full of love for him. Devin probably simply thought it wasn't fair, and thus couldn't help venting his misery on the boy with wings.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on November 02, 2006, 03:47:55 PM
I don't know it isn't entirely out of the possibility for Abel and Devin to be half brothers.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: DigitalMan on November 02, 2006, 03:48:17 PM
So now the real question - from Abel's point of view as well - is whether him having wings had anything to do with him being the specific target.

From the comic, it looks like Abel may have just been the first or only one Devin saw with his parents. Running into your school-mates and seeing how their life is outside of school isn't that common.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Aridas on November 02, 2006, 03:57:52 PM
especially what seems like only moments after watching your life fall apart..
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Zedd on November 02, 2006, 03:59:21 PM
Seriously...Devin could use a big hug right about now  :tired
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: bill on November 02, 2006, 04:04:03 PM
Bloody hell, guys, Cid isn't Devin's father. Not every character in the story is first-degree related.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Tiger_T on November 02, 2006, 04:06:47 PM
Devin sees Abel&Co being a happy family.
Devin is jealous.

I don't see where it becomes a requirement for Devin and Abel to be related. :B
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: bill on November 02, 2006, 04:09:00 PM
I mean, a perfectly plausible explanation exists. Why not use that?
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 02, 2006, 04:16:12 PM
... because it's more fun to randomly speculate about affairs, since we're not sexy enough to get any any other way?
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: bill on November 02, 2006, 04:17:14 PM
If you need me, I'll be here, slitting my wrists with Occam's Razor.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 02, 2006, 04:20:48 PM
... it's the least confusing way to slice your wrists?
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Netami on November 02, 2006, 04:34:13 PM
Guys.

Mab is Devin's father.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: bill on November 02, 2006, 04:39:58 PM
I thought it was Pyroduck.  :<
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 02, 2006, 04:44:55 PM
I don't know about Devin, but Dan is Abel's love-child following an illicit affair with his Pain and Terror professor at SAIA.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Faerie Alex on November 02, 2006, 04:52:47 PM
He's not just jealous that Abel got to appear in color first?
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Caswin on November 02, 2006, 04:54:55 PM
Abel's eyes... they're so... what's the word... if there is one...

Merlitz (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_565.php), eat your heart out.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: bill on November 02, 2006, 04:56:21 PM
Woot, it's the NASCAR hat! :D
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Madd the Sane on November 02, 2006, 04:56:35 PM
Quote from: Netami on November 02, 2006, 04:34:13 PM
Guys.

Mab is Devin's father.
:erk :erk :erk  How is that biologically possible!!  :erk :erk :erk
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Faerie Alex on November 02, 2006, 05:03:58 PM
Quote from: Caswin on November 02, 2006, 04:54:55 PM
...what's the word... if there is one...
Cute? Unsuspecting?

Definitely though, the eyes in this page have to be some of the most expressive in the whole comic. :eager
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: terrycloth on November 02, 2006, 05:05:24 PM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on November 02, 2006, 04:56:35 PM
Quote from: Netami on November 02, 2006, 04:34:13 PM
Guys.

Mab is Devin's father.
:erk :erk :erk  How is that biologically possible!!  :erk :erk :erk

Mab was almost certainly playing a different character at that point -- maybe it was male?
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: willow186129 on November 02, 2006, 05:48:42 PM
Quote from: DigitalMan on November 02, 2006, 11:11:13 AM
It should also be noted that even jealousy doesn't require deep pain.

*watches the neighbor clear his lawn of leaves in seconds with some odd snowblower-like machine* muttermuttergrumble...

And what is with all the ear-tufts? That does make it confusing :dface

Maybe it's some sort of time-fad...kinda thing. Men from forever ago(history books XD) had beards, now I never see that many beards...
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: willow186129 on November 02, 2006, 05:50:12 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on November 02, 2006, 04:39:58 PM
I thought it was Pyroduck.  :<

You're still wrong!

It was Fi!

:U
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 06:23:53 PM
No you are both wrong Xander is Dan's father. He teleported back to the past to impregnate Devin's mom and left her and *viola* a Abel arc story.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: terrycloth on November 02, 2006, 06:34:09 PM
Actually, Devin's father and mother were wealthy merchants who spoiled him rotten, and when they discovered that he was an embarassing bully they disowned him, feeding him stories of his 'original' mother and father who died because they hated him, which he eventually came to believe because it's easy to make kids believe random things happened just by telling them it over and over.

They did it because they were sadistic bullies too, it's where he got it from.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 06:42:22 PM
Maybe you are right Terrycloth. But in my opinion it's up to Devin to shape his character to be the bully of somebody else entirely. It's all in the matter of a choice.
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Amber Williams on November 02, 2006, 07:42:13 PM
Quote from: Netami on November 02, 2006, 04:34:13 PM
Guys.

Mab is Devin's father.

Get out of my notes dangit! >:O
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: thegayhare on November 02, 2006, 08:36:04 PM
For some reason,  an I don't understand it myself, the title of this thread has made the song Time Warp from rocky horror picture show run threw my brain over and over and over
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Stygian on November 02, 2006, 08:38:18 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 02, 2006, 07:42:13 PM
Quote from: Netami on November 02, 2006, 04:34:13 PM
Guys.

Mab is Devin's father.

Get out of my notes dangit! >:O

That's not even funny, Amber dear. It's a wicked plot twist, but not funny.

Quote from: thegayhare on November 02, 2006, 08:36:04 PM
For some reason,  an I don't understand it myself, the title of this thread has made the song Time Warp from rocky horror picture show run threw my brain over and over and over

You mean you don't have that song in your head all the time?
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 02, 2006, 08:46:54 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 02, 2006, 07:42:13 PM
Get out of my notes dangit! >:O

*evil snicker*
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: EvilIguana966 on November 02, 2006, 09:39:55 PM
Error 4521: Too Much Angst
return headsplode;
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Zedd on November 02, 2006, 09:42:41 PM
I wonder Devin wants some friendship at this moment
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: Alan Garou on November 03, 2006, 09:34:01 PM
To get this back on topic...
As if it needed pointing out, this comic proves once again that tiny Abel is mind-numbingly cute. So give the cute Abel cookies!  :mowcookie
EDIT: Woot! First post of page means a new beginning for this topic!
Title: Re: Jealousy takes hold (11-2-06)
Post by: ShiningShadow on November 03, 2006, 11:57:01 PM
I think Devin at this time wants understanding to his persona. All he wants to do is let Abel listen to his story till the end.