Aniz is so in for it now.
I wonder about the first panel. When Aniz says "The wings. The eyes. He looks just like them!" What does he mean by that?
*sniff sniff*
I smell another punch coming. :D
Woo! 2nd post!
fa'lina statement on the 3rd panel seems kinda intriguing.
The way she speaks looks like Abel is not his only son.
Or maybe I'm just overspeculating
I guess we'll find out who "them" is ...eventually.
And "...all your children..."? makes you wonder a bit, too.
Quote from: AndersW on April 06, 2008, 11:24:24 PM
I wonder about the first panel. When Aniz says "The wings. The eyes. He looks just like them!" What does he mean by that?
Yeah, it makes it sound like Able was bread for a specific purpose and look... I guess we just have to wait to find out who this "them" is.
Aniz... isn't a very fast learner, it seems.
Quote from: WhiteFire on April 06, 2008, 11:41:24 PM
Yeah, it makes it sound like Able was bread for a specific purpose...
(http://24.106.113.210/otown/abelbread.jpg)
Sorry. Can't resist a using-the-wrong-homophone joke.
I think what disturbs me most is when Aniz mentions 'This time'... does that mean he has every intention of doing soemthing like this again? Thats just a disturbing thought altogether. And yeah... the whole comment about color and eyes is off-setting as well! It really makes one wonder. Seems I get new questions in my mind with every update!
"Nothing you can't handle?"
By the four cubi gods, she's going to kill him.
. . .Or worse.
RAFE, you made my brain go HURGURRRK!
Well played.
Not exactly a very good thing to say at that moment Aniz... at least if you want to leave without (at least) a(nother) visit to Dr. Ink.
"... SO I'LL JUST DUMP THIS MESS IN YOUR LAP AND GO BACK TO WHATEVER IT IS I DO."
Oh lawd oh lawd.
Haha! Gloatingness
I think the "Aniz is Devin's Dad" theory is about to make a comeback...
And Aniz just reeealy loves being his own gravedigger, doesn't he?
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on April 07, 2008, 01:07:09 AM
I think the "Aniz is Devin's Dad" theory is about to make a comeback...
Did it ever really go away?
yep, definitely time for FALINA-PAUUNCH! the third. >:3 stupid Aniz. though that "just like them!" comment has me intrigued as well. who do we know that has spots, or possibly the half-n-half wings? :d
Ugh... I wanted to comment on how it seems that Aniz has some other children, but it was already mentioned and I don't have anything useful to add at this point. :animesweat But I want to say I like his smile in the last panel. The only thing that panel lacks is Fa'Lina's fist approaching his jaw. >:3 Then again, he might be getting away without any more beating. Fa'Lina seems to have released enough frustration and calmed down now.
God, everytime I read that first panel, "them" seems more and more important. That's gonna bug me.
And what was Aniz trying to do with an "ideal method"?
Why, why, dear god, is Aniz losing intelligence with each passing page? I want to love to hate him, I want him to be a truly magnificent bastard, but he just... inspires a mixture of embarrassment and disgust in me now.
I know someone who won't be getting father of the year...for the twelve or thirteenth time. ;)
Quote from: Pagan on April 07, 2008, 02:03:40 AM
Why, why, dear god, is Aniz losing intelligence with each passing page? I want to love to hate him, I want him to be a truly magnificent bastard, but he just... inspires a mixture of embarrassment and disgust in me now.
Oh, there is a very good reason for that! Have you forgotten that Fa'Lina punched Aniz in the face - twice? His brain must have malfunctioned! :3 But seriously, Aniz should have shown some respect to Fa'Lina. Even if he does not feel guilty about doing what he did to Abel, he still could have at least pretended. Then again, Fa'Lina would see through that. But still this is no situation where you can act like a jerk, Aniz.
You are lucky to live in such a civilized society, or you would have been reduced to a red stain on the floor by now...
QuoteOh, there is a very good reason for that! Have you forgotten that Fa'Lina punched Aniz in the face - twice? His brain must have malfunctioned! But seriously, Aniz should have shown some respect to Fa'Lina. Even if he does not feel guilty about doing what he did to Abel, he still could have at least pretended. Then again, Fa'Lina would see through that. But still this is no situation where you can act like a jerk, Aniz. You are lucky to live in such a civilized society, or you would have been reduced to a red stain on the floor by now...
Oh...most likely that's in his immediate future. Guys like Aniz nearly always wind up as somebody's dry cleaning problem in the end.
Although personally, I could totally go for another nice tall Fa'Lina Punch right now. To Aniz, on the house.
And wouldn't this give some kind of credence to the "Aniz = Edward" theory? Perhaps Dan is what he was going for?
Quote from: Violet Dusk on April 07, 2008, 02:18:29 AM
Oh...most likely that's in his immediate future. Guys like Aniz nearly always wind up as somebody's dry cleaning problem in the end.
"
Now, look at what you have done, Aniz! You have stained my favourite carpet.. No, not stained - you've ruined it!! Do you have as lightest idea how hard it is to get blood and brains out of a carpet? And stop bleeding on the floor, you're making a mess..."
Quote from: Kayriel on April 07, 2008, 02:22:37 AM
And wouldn't this give some kind of credence to the "Aniz = Edward" theory? Perhaps Dan is what he was going for?
Now all we need is to find out what is that Aniz was going for, then! :B
In that last panel, Aniz is looking too smug or pleased with himself to escape a further immediate beating by Ms. Falina. I agree that her "all your children" comment indicates that Abel has numerous siblings already in SAIA (whether they're all still there or not. Could this be (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_425.php) one of those "shattered shells" of Aniz's children that Falina refers to, or is that just a result of Abel himself?
Quote from: AmigaDragon on April 07, 2008, 02:42:17 AM
In that last panel, Aniz is looking too smug or pleased with himself to escape a further immediate beating by Ms. Falina. I agree that her "all your children" comment indicates that Abel has numerous siblings already in SAIA (whether they're all still there or not. Could this be (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_425.php) one of those "shattered shells" of Aniz's children that Falina refers to, or is that just a result of Abel himself?
Nah, that's obviously one of Abel's victims.
So now theres a high probability that Abel has a handful of half-siblings running around SAIA. Edit : Okay, its been disproven already XD
I would say I'm not too surprised that Aniz is doing this, because he might just be trying to repopulate his clan (mentioned many times : almost non-existant) but having Abel just for his looks....ebil!
About the Aniz is Devin's dad thing, I seriously doubt it, because while Devin is a splitting image of his mother, you think he'd have to be at LEAST born with wings to signify that's he's a cubi? half breed or not.
Quote from: AndersW on April 06, 2008, 11:24:24 PM
I wonder about the first panel. When Aniz says "The wings. The eyes. He looks just like them!" What does he mean by that?
The wings business has surely got to be tied in with the fact that Aniz and Abel have a completely different wing design.
Quote from: Violet Dusk on April 07, 2008, 02:18:29 AM
Oh...most likely that's in his immediate future. Guys like Aniz nearly always wind up as somebody's dry cleaning problem in the end.
Yes, having someone else he knows die would really help Abel recover...
**EDIT**
Hit 'post' instead of 'preview'
Quote from: AmigaDragon on April 07, 2008, 02:42:17 AM
Could this be one of those "shattered shells" of Aniz's children that Falina refers to, or is that just a result of Abel himself?
Realistically, it's Jouster's cameo, and probably nothing more than that. So far as the story goes, the implication is that Abel didn't want him as a room-mate.
My take:
Fa'Lina and Aniz had a plot to produce children who looked like a certain kind of being. In order to get that, Aniz had to infiltrate an existing couple by killing the male and taking his position. He then gets what Aniz and Fa'Lina want: A brown spotted child. Since he's not 100% sure that the child is cubi, he waits. Then he sees it is in fact a cubi and he has all he wanted. He's not patient enough to end this in a sensible manner and all hell breaks lose.
Now, Aniz and Fa'Lina need more than just one child! Aniz is supposed to try again elsewhere. These future children are what Fa'Lina references! She probably gets second thoughts about the plan. Yes, she wants young cubi like Abel, but she doesn't want broken headcases!
I guess that is why Aniz is still so sure of himself: He thinks that Fa'Lina still needs him for breeding. He shouldn't be so awfully sure!
Who are "them"?
Two guesses: First, it may be a certain Cubi clan that they want to infiltrate. That's why the certain look is needed. Probably a clan with blue and green eyed cubi. Second: This is the first try at a cubi-being crossbreeding. Abel is looking so much like ordinary beings.
Or both!
Quote from: Dard on April 07, 2008, 04:50:22 AM
My take:
Interesting, but there's one major objection that springs to mind, one that would make this chicanery somewhat unnecessary:
:shapeshifters
Quote from: Dard on April 07, 2008, 04:50:22 AM
Second: This is the first try at a cubi-being crossbreeding. Abel is looking so much like ordinary beings.
IIRC, the Academy would have been running for something like 6600-7000 years by this point, and the race itself is like 100'000 years old. I rather doubt Abel was the first ever halfbreed. Interesting idea, though.
Dard is correct in that Fa'Lina was talking about Aniz' future children rather than implying that there were already a bunch of half-siblings romping about. I suppose I worded something poorly in this comic since so many people misread it.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 07, 2008, 04:56:01 AM
Quote from: Dard on April 07, 2008, 04:50:22 AM
My take:
Interesting, but there's one major objection that springs to mind, one that would make this chicanery somewhat unnecessary:
:shapeshifters
Oh, I thought about this one. But considering Abel's a cubi, Aniz' comment "The wings, the eyes. He looks just like them" just doesn't make sense. So there must be something about his looks so that simple shapeshifting just isn't enough.
You should wave the "Cubi are shapeshifters" smiley at Aniz, not me!
Quote from: Dard on April 07, 2008, 05:30:22 AM
Oh, I thought about this one. But considering Abel's a cubi, Aniz' comment "The wings, the eyes. He looks just like them" just doesn't make sense. So there must be something about his looks so that simple shapeshifting just isn't enough.
The way I see it, Aniz is interested in his son's appearance (i.e. his base form) as proof that he is of a certain lineage, not because it would help some plan.
If they wanted to infiltrate, shapeshifting alone should be enough. The only situation I can think of where having a similar base form would be useful in infiltration is if there is some kind of spell that forces a 'Cubi to revert to base form. Even that wouldn't help you too much since the clan mark would be wrong.
*facepalms*
OK, that's it, I just can't take it anymore...
*fricken shoves Aniz's foot into his mouth, then uses Harm Touch to melt his face, and make his foot permanently stuck there*
There... moving on.... and seriously... no sign of wounds anymore already? Seriously, when is Fa'lina going to pull out the Legendary Kung Fu Ninja Muffins of Whoop Ass?
Them...Them...
Possibly a certain type of demon?
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 07, 2008, 04:17:08 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on April 07, 2008, 02:42:17 AM
Could this be one of those "shattered shells" of Aniz's children that Falina refers to, or is that just a result of Abel himself?
Realistically, it's Jouster's cameo, and probably nothing more than that. So far as the story goes, the implication is that Abel didn't want him as a room-mate.
For your reading pleasure. link (http://janusd.deviantart.com/art/The-Seduction-Of-Jouster-22464626)
Edit:
Note that this link requires a DeviantArt login, as the content is NSFW and rated Mature.
AndersW should have made a note to this effect.
-- llearch
the only 'them' i could think of is if abels mom really was a bit loose, as people seem to think, and aniz was afraid she boinked with an angel.
hoo boy, they don't want any angels getting inside SAIA now do they? daddykins could probably home in on junior regardless how many wards were on that place.
*Charles has suspicions... not that Edward = Aniz, but something just a wee bit different that is made possible if Aniz has other children later, and one doesn't end up a Cubi...*
Remember, we've got 400 years to work with! ;)
Quote from: AndersW on April 07, 2008, 09:24:52 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 07, 2008, 04:17:08 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on April 07, 2008, 02:42:17 AM
Could this be one of those "shattered shells" of Aniz's children that Falina refers to, or is that just a result of Abel himself?
Realistically, it's Jouster's cameo, and probably nothing more than that. So far as the story goes, the implication is that Abel didn't want him as a room-mate.
For your reading pleasure. link (http://janusd.deviantart.com/art/The-Seduction-Of-Jouster-22464626)
Edit:
Note that this link requires a DeviantArt login, as the content is NSFW and rated Mature.
AndersW should have made a note to this effect.
-- llearch
I guess I'll just have to miss that then. I don't go registering to every new linked site just so I can look at pictures. Having no artistic talent, I have no other reason to register either.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on April 07, 2008, 12:11:12 PM
I guess I'll just have to miss that then. I don't go registering to every new linked site just so I can look at pictures. Having no artistic talent, I have no other reason to register either.
I think you'll find it's a story. To be honest, if it's NSFW I'm not sure I want to read it anyway...
Quote"The wings. The eyes. He looks just like them!"
I'd really take this as definitive proof of Abel having siblings, especially considering Fa'Lina's next question, and Aniz's answer to said question.
I also find the wings and eyes comment interesting, as we know that Abel has both unique wings and eyes. Heterochromia makes him both blue and green eyed, and we know that his wings are both bat-winged and feathered. At least gives us clues as to what a sibling might look like, anyway.
I get the feeling Aniz does this a lot. I also get the feeling that Fa'Lina isn't going to kill him. Call it a hunch.
Quote from: Cogidubnus on April 07, 2008, 12:22:23 PM
I'd really take this as definitive proof of Abel having siblings, especially considering Fa'Lina's next question, and Aniz's answer to said question.
Did you see
Amber's post (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,4362.msg185866.html#msg185866) about that referring to potential future children? Or are you talking about it from the present day point-of-view, as opposed to 400 years ago?
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 07, 2008, 12:25:35 PM
Did you see Amber's post (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,4362.msg185866.html#msg185866) about that referring to potential future children? Or are you talking about it from the present day point-of-view, as opposed to 400 years ago?
I did not, in point of fact. Goes to show what happens when I speculate and only skim the thread.
If so, than something is still up. Abel looks similar to
someone, after all - several someones, in point of fact, in and of his wings and his eyes. If it isn't a sibling, it makes me wonder.
Huh.
I would have a really good speculative guess for this comic, but I'm feeling wonky from getting minimal amounts of sleep.
So instead, I'll just give Amber a gold star for her artwork and for renewing all the speculation-excitement in me. XD
I think this comic shut up any confusion I had about Abel's eye color and wing-style differences from Aniz. If it's possible to magically tailor or engineer someone's/something's (particularly a fetus?) appearance for a specific purpose, that probably explains the physical discrepancies.
Quote from: Cogidubnus on April 07, 2008, 12:22:23 PM
Quote"The wings. The eyes. He looks just like them!"
I'd really take this as definitive proof of Abel having siblings, especially considering Fa'Lina's next question, and Aniz's answer to said question.
I also find the wings and eyes comment interesting, as we know that Abel has both unique wings and eyes. Heterochromia makes him both blue and green eyed, and we know that his wings are both bat-winged and feathered. At least gives us clues as to what a sibling might look like, anyway.
I get the feeling Aniz does this a lot. I also get the feeling that Fa'Lina isn't going to kill him. Call it a hunch.
It could be that Aniz
did have other children at one point, but something happened to them, and now he's trying to recreate them. Or possibly the other members of his clan. We still don't know what, in particular, reduced Abel's clan to such a derelict state.
I probably am going to go with the last idea, since the first one sounds too sympathetic for someone as despicable as Aniz. Yes, I do greatly dislike the douche, now. Also, I doubt Fa'Lina's going to kill Aniz. After all, she did say there would be some repercussions if she did.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Cogidubnus on April 07, 2008, 12:32:30 PM
I did not, in point of fact. Goes to show what happens when I speculate and only skim the thread.
Yeah, well, that particular post was very easy to miss, especially at the time it was posted.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 07, 2008, 12:13:52 PM
I think you'll find it's a story. To be honest, if it's NSFW I'm not sure I want to read it anyway...
I'm sorry for not marking the link NSFW. I don't think it is any worse than the Shonen-ai Wallpaper.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on April 07, 2008, 12:11:12 PM
I guess I'll just have to miss that then. I don't go registering to every new linked site just so I can look at pictures. Having no artistic talent, I have no other reason to register either.
If you don't want to sign up, you can bypass the filter by clicking the download link to the left. It takes you to a html page with the text.
It is a fun read, and I would definitely recommend it.
I'm almost tempted to suggest pyroduck....
(with a heaping LARGE case of sibling rivary)
To above poster, of whose name I forgot, that might be a idea. He's trying to re-make certain cubi from his clan. Maybe the original clan founders looked something like Abel. Aniz may be doing a reincarnation-ploy.
And, since we've learned that a child looks like a being parent, Aniz must of hand-picked May for her traits.
Quote from: AndersW on April 07, 2008, 09:24:52 AM
For your reading pleasure. link (http://janusd.deviantart.com/art/The-Seduction-Of-Jouster-22464626)
Aiie! The ancient writing burns like pain! Pre-Abel's-Story-during-SAIA pain!
At least, people reading that will lose any idea that I'm competent at writing in the least, given the prejudices of this place regarding male/male humour.
*poof*
Quote from: AndersW on April 07, 2008, 02:39:47 PM
If you don't want to sign up, you can bypass the filter by clicking the download link to the left. It takes you to a html page with the text.
... you mean the link that isn't there if you're not logged in?
Yeah. That'll work wonders...
Wow...totally random, but I forgot I made this:
http://lucheek.deviantart.com/art/DMFA-Sprite-Sheet-1-35033034
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 07, 2008, 05:48:19 PM
Quote from: AndersW on April 07, 2008, 02:39:47 PM
If you don't want to sign up, you can bypass the filter by clicking the download link to the left. It takes you to a html page with the text.
... you mean the link that isn't there if you're not logged in?
Yeah. That'll work wonders...
This should work. NSFW link (http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs22/f/2008/002/1/8/The_Seduction_Of_Jouster_by_janusd.html)
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on April 07, 2008, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: AndersW on April 07, 2008, 09:24:52 AM
For your reading pleasure. link (http://janusd.deviantart.com/art/The-Seduction-Of-Jouster-22464626)
Aiie! The ancient writing burns like pain! Pre-Abel's-Story-during-SAIA pain!
At least, people reading that will lose any idea that I'm competent at writing in the least, given the prejudices of this place regarding male/male humour.
*poof*
It was an amusing story, and I enjoyed it. Don't put yourself down so much. Remember, the older it is, the more distorted the impression of it (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_672.php).
I don't think that Fa'lina will kill Aniz, but I believe that she is capable of making him wish he was dead. I also think that she has something specific in mind for Aniz.
By the way, my opinion of Aniz is dropping fast.
Well, I can't say that I ever had a high opinion of Aniz, but he is no more of a jerk now than he was back at May's house. It is just the fact that he acts like he still has some control of the situation, and like he is not made of fail that makes me want to jab burning chopsticks into his ears. >:[
However, there is obviously something more about this whole situation than we can see right now, and Aniz clearly plays a major role in something important. Either way he is out of danger right now. I would even go as far as to say that he will be quite safe as long as he is near Fa'Lina.
... Reminds him of who, now, I wonder?
Quote from: Aleolus on April 07, 2008, 08:58:16 PM
... Reminds him of who, now, I wonder?
You and everyone else. We'll never find out, of course. Much like Aniz's motives for killing Hennya, this question will always remain firmly planted in eternal twilight. Amber likes screwing with people like that.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 07, 2008, 07:44:59 PMI would even go as far as to say that he will be quite safe as long as he is near Fa'Lina.
I think Aniz is starting to think that now too, thus why he's getting cocky... though I'm sure if he pushes Fa'lina too far, he's still screwed.. The muffins... they are like NINJAS!!! (http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs14/300W/f/2007/056/f/a/Ninja_Muffin_by_KatWylder.png)
Bwhahahaha.... don't ask how I got inspired to look for ninja muffin pics... besides just that Fa'lina seems to like muffins...
(I take NO credit for the pic, it's all this guy: http://katwylder.deviantart.com/)
8) When do the itty bitty Aniz pieces start flying again ???
Quote from: Kuari on April 08, 2008, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 07, 2008, 07:44:59 PMI would even go as far as to say that he will be quite safe as long as he is near Fa'Lina.
I think Aniz is starting to think that now too, thus why he's getting cocky... though I'm sure if he pushes Fa'lina too far, he's still screwed..
I doubt that Aniz would be able to say or do something that will push Fa'Lina too far. She is several thousands of years old. She must have more than enough self-control not to randomly kill annoying jerks. So don't be in such a hurry to release the muffins of war - there isn't going to be any work for them any time soon.
Quote from: kaskar on April 08, 2008, 02:06:57 AM
8) When do the itty bitty Aniz pieces start flying again ???
No sooner than he is through with those plans, whatever they are. When he is through, you may tear him apart for all I care. :3
Quote from: Alondro on April 07, 2008, 10:11:15 AM
*Charles has suspicions... not that Edward = Aniz, but something just a wee bit different that is made possible if Aniz has other children later, and one doesn't end up a Cubi...*
Remember, we've got 400 years to work with! ;)
OooOooh.. I hadn't thought about that.... not a bad idea...
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on April 07, 2008, 12:33:25 PMIt could be that Aniz did have other children at one point, but something happened to them, and now he's trying to recreate them. Or possibly the other members of his clan. We still don't know what, in particular, reduced Abel's clan to such a derelict state.
You know.. I don't recall if I read it or not.. but was the Derelict state of Abel's Clan a "Current" thing.. or something that was going on even 400 years in the past?
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 08, 2008, 04:43:36 AM
I doubt that Aniz would be able to say or do something that will push Fa'Lina too far. She is several thousands of years old. She must have more than enough self-control not to randomly kill annoying jerks. So don't be in such a hurry to release the muffins of war - there isn't going to be any work for them any time soon.
While it's most likely that Fa'Lina won't lose her temper and kill Aniz in a blood frenzy, there's not really much stopping her from just simply cold-bloodedly murdering him to stop further harm caused by Aniz. He's already got one heir already, and he's just said he's intending to go ahead and ruin plenty more lives AND leave her to clean up the mess. Much tidyier to clear it up with only one death.