11/17/07 [Abel #106] - Good enough excuse...

[Zedd]

Well I am sure where all waiting for a proper answer to this...Even though it seems Aniz avoids it like it was a breeze apon the wind..

[MT Hazard]

man's got a point though, he could go though his whole mad motivation but it wouldn't excuse traumatising May for the rest of her life and killing Abel's friend.

[computer nerd]

Well i wonder who going come in and make it worse 

[Tapewolf]

Killing Hennya was, loosely speaking, an accident.  As he seemed to be saying himself, it would likely be covered under self-defence.  It wasn't part of the plan and it wasn't something he was at all happy about doing.  Traumatizing May was evil.  That's the only bit I can't see where he's coming from.

Killing Cid was not something he did tonight, but we still don't know the circumstances behind it anyway, whether Aniz was deliberately looking for a victim or whether Cid 'shot first'...

[Jigsaw Forte]

... Roundabout way of goin' "I'm Sorry", innit?

[Zedd]

... Roundabout way of goin' "I'm Sorry", innit?

Maybe he is..But all in seriousness I think Aniz is avoiding the question still for a perfectly two good reasons. One: Mainly ripping up Abels heart like cheap bought colored paper and  Two:Totaly disfigured May with Physical and physcological injuries that forever take to heal and close

[rt]

Seems I'm with MTHazzard (and Able) on this one .. there may be some mad answer .. but it doesn't really matter anywyas 

[rabid_fox]

Abel's Story continues magnificent.

[Alondro]

There's a very simple excuse:  "I have the power and you don't.  Therefore I can do whatever I feel like doing cuz you can't stop me.

That does fit the general evil Cubi mindset, after all. 

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Kria would be happy with it, as well.

.. well, until Jy-jy started gnawing at her ankles again...

[superluser]

So I'm not getting Aniz's character, here.  He's changed emotions on a dime, and it seems to be incongruous with his previous reactions.

Is he going through puberty or something?

[M]

Is he going through puberty or something?

Seriously. He's like every teenager ever. 

I do have to agree with him though. There isn't anything he can say to try to make the situation better.

[AnizInDisguise]

Well, at least he realizes he's done something horrible.

[Dannysaysnoo]

Well, at least he realizes he's done something horrible.

That's the sign. The sign that someone is not completely immoral. I still feel Aniz can come out of all this a good person. Despite what he has done.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

"I can feel the good in him." ?

[Tapewolf]

So I'm not getting Aniz's character, here.  He's changed emotions on a dime, and it seems to be incongruous with his previous reactions.

He did that before when he stopped being Cid.  While it doesn't say it outright in the Demonology, I do get the impression that sudden emotional flips are a regular 'Cubi thing...

[Kesh]

Well, at least he realizes he's done something horrible.

That's the sign. The sign that someone is not completely immoral. I still feel Aniz can come out of all this a good person. Despite what he has done.

I disagree. It simply means he's not insane. Those without a full grasp on reality can't understand when they've done something wrong.

He had a plan, and this was it (aside from killing Hennya). He knows it's inexcusable, but he did it anyway.

Eventually we'll find out why, but it still won't excuse it. Which makes him even more of a bastard.

[Sienna Maiu - M T]

Only Time will tell.

Poor, poor Abel, he knows there's no excuse either, also he probably realizes he is resigned to whatever fate Aniz has planned for him. Aside everything, he probably still doesn't consider this man his father.

[Regal]

Aniz seems to be confirming that he's a jerk.

[GabrielsThoughts]

for the love of god, next scene! Must we suffer through this with Abel?

[Titanium Dragon]

for the love of god, next scene! Must we suffer through this with Abel?

Yes. That's what makes for good storytelling, eh? Emotional attachment, followed by using that emotional attachment. This is the using part, eh?

That was an interesting response, but it is true he seems to have a very here and there personality, though it is also possible it is that creature vs being dichotomy - he cares about Abel because he's his son and he's a creature, but he doesn't care at all about May because she's a being. So he treats them differently.

[Saist]

Killing Hennya was, loosely speaking, an accident.  As he seemed to be saying himself, it would likely be covered under self-defence.  It wasn't part of the plan and it wasn't something he was at all happy about doing.  Traumatizing May was evil.  That's the only bit I can't see where he's coming from.

Killing Cid was not something he did tonight, but we still don't know the circumstances behind it anyway, whether Aniz was deliberately looking for a victim or whether Cid 'shot first'...

* je.saist makes T-shirts that have Aniz Shot First printed on them.

[Angel]

Hm. So this is (partially) where Abel gets his ethics.

Aniz knows what he did was evil, and knows, no doubt, that he himself is evil. But he refuses to apologize for it. It can't be that he doesn't care, 'cause that comment made it pretty clear that he does, or at least he does when people close to him somehow are involved. But just fitting him into the "honest jerk" label doesn't seem right. There's a difference between just being a jerk and being all-out evil.

Well, at least he realizes he's done something horrible.

That's the sign. The sign that someone is not completely immoral. I still feel Aniz can come out of all this a good person. Despite what he has done.

Well, yeah, he does have some sense of morality. But I think he's still pretty far from being a good person. I mean, he was smiling when he revealed to May that he was Cid's murderer. Though that could've just been theatrics...

Of course, we could all be wrong, and he could be a complete bipolar sociopath, like Elle from Heroes.

[Manawolf]

IT WOULD HELP TO NOTE IT YOU ****!

No I'm not going censor myself, this is a deliberate smack to the face of the fans.

[Sajoli]

Gah. Not cool.

[Zina]

It's cool, Manawolf. I'll do it for you.
PG forum. Keep it that way.

[superluser]

While it doesn't say it outright in the Demonology, I do get the impression that sudden emotional flips are a regular 'Cubi thing...

Mood swings are one thing, but Aniz's emotions are switching like a ViewMaster wheel in a phenakistoscope.

Eh, I'm sure it will all make sense in retrospect.

[Zedd]

Following up all way from the beguining we noticed that Cid was a man and a former adventurer to make all ends meet till the date of his demise and death by a cubi who was stalked this family even before birth of Abel..Mostly May had no clue about it at all but their was very quiet yet very loose string theorys about it all but I dought theres enough time to explain it all.

[Caswin]

Hm. So this is (partially) where Abel gets his ethics.

Aniz knows what he did was evil, and knows, no doubt, that he himself is evil. But he refuses to apologize for it. It can't be that he doesn't care, 'cause that comment made it pretty clear that he does, or at least he does when people close to him somehow are involved.

Or he could be just brushing Abel off entirely.  Could go either way.

Blah blah blah, Aniz is nasty, blah blah blah.

[Manawolf]

The final and most important question to any story: Why.

You leave that out, and you throw away the chance of having a timeless classic and instead end up with a wrinkled and decrepit old granny of a plot.

You're only showing the frailty in your writing, Amber.  Not giving us reason only leads to suspicion and thoughts of you simply doing it for the hell of it, which is never a good idea when trying to make something serious.

You've thrown yourself out of "Jack" quality, and down into the dumps of "Better Days" stupidity.