Wow, Abel's pissed. Really pissed. And apparently Kria/Lorenda got Dan stabilized and back to the Lost Lake Inn. But this looks like it's later in the same day, so it can't be too much later. And hey, it's Wildy! Been a bit since we saw her. She looks really worried.
Also, great sketch, Amber. Love the Gungan. Where does this Jar-Jar hate come from anyway? Anyway, good luck with the t-shirt designs.
I wanted to see what happened to Regina's room!
Cool Gungan sketch.
@Jairus: I think the Jar-Jar hate came from the fact that he's just a hanger-on. He really serves almost no purpose in the Star Wars Universe when he is first introduced, and that likely caused people to hate him, since most of the main characters introduced serve a purpose early in their introduction.
Anyone notice that Alexi's and Wildy's dialog could be interpreted easily as "I wish I had been there to help beat the snot out of Dan?"
I know it's not because of their concerned expressions, but the Radio folks will have to be careful about their reading from today's strip!
Not that Wildy would ever anyone to cause Dan harm, of course!. . . . She'd want to do it herself!
Quote from: VSMIT on April 13, 2009, 02:19:03 AM
@Jairus: I think the Jar-Jar hate came from the fact that he's just a hanger-on. He really serves almost no purpose in the Star Wars Universe when he is first introduced, and that likely caused people to hate him, since most of the main characters introduced serve a purpose early in their introduction.
I disliked Jar-Jar because he seemed to be there to make blatant and crass attempts to jar specific emotional responses from me, the viewer. I was amazed when Lucas successfully found a dramatically true reason for him by making him responsible for forming the Empire . . . for all the wrong reasons.
Why am I reminded of those 'Mad scientist (try to) kill off spy with elaborate death instruments' moments when I see Fi and Abel?
Quote from: VSMIT on April 13, 2009, 02:19:03 AM
I wanted to see what happened to Regina's room!
My personal opinion is that things like that are best left... unseen so the fans can use their imaginations.
Quote from: jeffh4 on April 13, 2009, 02:21:12 AM
Not that Wildy would ever anyone to cause Dan harm, of course!. . . . She'd want to do it herself!
Very true, but also keep in mind the last time Dan was seriously injured. Wildy was the one who healed Dan. While yes, Wildy does harm Dan on a somewhat consistent basis, they are still friends. All's fun and games while it stays at the bumps, scrapes, and small cuts. From what I can tell, once things get serious (or seriously injured), so does Wildy.
As for Abel... can I say Angry Abel is angry? And somehow, I feel like Fi does deserve that treatment/punishment.
Quote from: Madmann135 on April 13, 2009, 02:34:10 AM
Why am I reminded of those 'Mad scientist (try to) kill off spy with elaborate death instruments' moments when I see Fi and Abel?
Or Darth Vader...
Darth Abel: "You have failed me for the last time. Fo!"
Fo: "Yes Lord Abel?"
Darth Abel: "Make ready to follow Dan wherever he goes, and deploy the Aci so that no harm shall come to him. You are in command now, Fo!"
Fo: "Thank you, Lord Abel!"
*Fi disappears back to the Warp-Aci dimension*
I see Abel has perhaps slipped enough in his concentration that his back wings have shown, though the head wings are still hidden.
VrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.....
*AIEEEE!*
.....RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrr....
Amber, you are the only one who can make a main characters critical situation funny
Hilarious!
Warp-aci. WILL IT BLEND!? (http://www.willitblend.com/) That is the question!
Quote from: Cvstos on April 13, 2009, 03:25:33 AM
Hilarious!
Warp-aci. WILL IT BLEND!? (http://www.willitblend.com/) That is the question!
Mwahahah, yes, that's what I first thought too~
Quote from: Jairus on April 13, 2009, 02:09:02 AM
Wow, Abel's pissed. Really pissed. And apparently Kria/Lorenda got Dan stabilized and back to the Lost Lake Inn.
Yes. A pity we don't know how that happened regarding the Kria/Abel scenario, as it would have been a bit weird and dangerous if Lorenda singlehandedly carried him back. I guess either Fi finally came to its senses or Kria must have teleported them, because I doubt Lorenda knows how.
And yes, the last frame is win.
QuoteBut this looks like it's later in the same day, so it can't be too much later. And hey, it's Wildy! Been a bit since we saw her. She looks really worried.
Oh, oh. That could be interesting when she finds out it was Biggs who sent him to his doom.
EDIT:
Abel has every right to be pissed. He may or may not have some tie or alliance with Dan's family, but more immediately, if Dan dies on his watch, Fa'Lina is liable to dangle him over the blender too.
Well, to be fair to Fi, Fi was coming down off of a bender at the time, so Fi might have... forgotten... a few instructions. And there were sandwiches too!
Although they had better have been pretty darn good sandwiches... :mowcookie
Of course Wildy is upset about not being there and missing out on events. You have to remember that her way of healing Dan is to hit other people with a stick. Just imagine how she's going to feel when she hears about Regina.
Poor Fi, I hope he doesn't get blended. I know what it is like to be add and food is nearby, you forget things quick.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 05:12:42 AMEDIT:
Abel has every right to be pissed. He may or may not have some tie or alliance with Dan's family, but more immediately, if Dan dies on his watch, Fa'Lina is liable to dangle him over the blender too.
Forget Fa'Lina. What about destania?
Quote from: Jack McSlay on April 13, 2009, 07:29:14 AM
Forget Fa'Lina. What about destania?
Fa'Lina (who is, I think, more than capable of taking Dee down any day) sent Abel out of the Academy for the express purpose of guarding Dan, a task which he very nearly failed hard at, by relying on Fi not to screw things up. I don't know to what extent Fa'Lina was able to predict this, given that it took place outside the Academy, but I imagine she is going to be less than happy at what happened, even though Dan appears to have survived.
Dee personally sent Dan to tackle DP alone, knowing full well that he could quite possibly fail and die. (To what extent this was her being 'in character' for Biggs is unclear. She may possibly have done this as a life lesson, e.g. "Get back to SAIA where it's safe, you nitwit")
However, while she probably would take DP out of the equation for good and all if Dan died, she can't blame Abel for this because she knew full well that the two of them were separated at the time. And hell, Abel would have stopped her little game pretty sharpish if he was around.
O thonk thi riesun wi git Abel biong e sucoupeth on thi lest fremi os dai tu thi niid fur sume holeroty, elsu noci tu sii Wildy egeon. O hed biin thonkong O mossid her entocs.
Since no one else thought this was as amusing as I did...
I think the reason we got Abel being a sociopath in the last frame is due to the need for some hilarity, also nice to see Wildy again. I had been thinking I missed her antics.
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on April 13, 2009, 08:01:13 AM
O thonk thi riesun wi git Abel biong e sucoupeth on thi lest fremi os dai tu thi niid fur sume holeroty, elsu noci tu sii Wildy egeon. O hed biin thonkong O mossid her entocs.
Rule 8, please...
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Quote from: Jer-oh-me on April 13, 2009, 08:01:13 AM
O thonk thi riesun wi git Abel biong e sucoupeth on thi lest fremi os dai tu thi niid fur sume holeroty, elsu noci tu sii Wildy egeon. O hed biin thonkong O mossid her entocs.
Rule 8, please...
Sorry, that was actually spelled right, just... well next vowelled.
Boredom strikes from the side.
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on April 13, 2009, 08:21:19 AM
Sorry, that was actually spelled right, just... well next vowelled.
I think you'll find it still counts as 'encoded'. Without knowing the key, I managed to work out the gist of most of it but not all of it...
EDIT: Ah, translation. Thanks.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 05:12:42 AM
Abel has every right to be pissed. He may or may not have some tie or alliance with Dan's family, but more immediately, if Dan dies on his watch, Fa'Lina is liable to dangle him over the blender too.
..And now I have an image of a giant Fa'Lina holding Abel over an equally giant blender. :T
EDIT:
..I am so drawing it. :B
Hee hee hee hee hee hee! I knew at some point he was gonna find out and choke a 'Ci... heee.
I never noticed how Wildy's bangs curled like that before ... from the side it looks cool. Also, her climbing up onto the counter is cute.
And your Gungan is really well-drawn, Amber. I don't judge, they're probably a really fun race to play. :3
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 08:48:23 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 05:12:42 AM
Abel has every right to be pissed. He may or may not have some tie or alliance with Dan's family, but more immediately, if Dan dies on his watch, Fa'Lina is liable to dangle him over the blender too.
..And now I have an image of a giant Fa'Lina holding Abel over an equally giant blender. :T
EDIT:
..I am so drawing it. :B
Doooooooooo Ettttttttt >:3
Hooray wildy is back which means my fear that she was dropped or killed is gone. :bunny
Quote from: Paladin Sheppard on April 13, 2009, 09:18:45 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 08:48:23 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 05:12:42 AM
Abel has every right to be pissed. He may or may not have some tie or alliance with Dan's family, but more immediately, if Dan dies on his watch, Fa'Lina is liable to dangle him over the blender too.
..And now I have an image of a giant Fa'Lina holding Abel over an equally giant blender. :T
EDIT:
..I am so drawing it. :B
Doooooooooo Ettttttttt >:3
I completely agree. DOOOOOOOOO ETTTTTTTT! 0o0
Quote from: Naldru on April 13, 2009, 06:20:21 AMJust imagine how she's going to feel when she hears about Regina.
Yeah, because in Regina's Bio, it said she was most know for almost killing Wildy. She is going to be very mad that she missed get her chance to get revenge.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 08:48:23 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 05:12:42 AM
Abel has every right to be pissed. He may or may not have some tie or alliance with Dan's family, but more immediately, if Dan dies on his watch, Fa'Lina is liable to dangle him over the blender too.
..And now I have an image of a giant Fa'Lina holding Abel over an equally giant blender. :T
EDIT:
..I am so drawing it. :B
I have drawn it:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/Iforgiveyou.png
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 07:54:58 AM
Dee personally sent Dan to tackle DP alone, knowing full well that he could quite possibly fail and die. (To what extent this was her being 'in character' for Biggs is unclear. She may possibly have done this as a life lesson, e.g. "Get back to SAIA where it's safe, you nitwit")
My theroy,
1 part distraction to keep Dan for looking Dee, if Dan found out why Dee is in hiding he might do the same thing he did in twinks and charge in hot-headed to save his father from the dragons and I doubt they are as forgiving as Biggs would have been.
2 part stoping DP from returning to life, Biggs try to stop DP from returning and failed Dan has a few wins agains DP, logical anyone who could stop DP would be Dan.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 07:54:58 AM
However, while she probably would take DP out of the equation for good and all if Dan died,
Why you think that I don't know, since she can't even step out Twinks.
As for todays comic
I am interested to who told Alexis that Dan got hurt was it Kira or Loranda? Would Loranda have to tell her relationship with DP and Regina.
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Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 05:12:42 AM
Abel has every right to be pissed. He may or may not have some tie or alliance with Dan's family, but more immediately, if Dan dies on his watch, Fa'Lina is liable to dangle him over the blender too.
..And now I have an image of a giant Fa'Lina holding Abel over an equally giant blender. :T
EDIT:
..I am so drawing it. :B
I have drawn it:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/Iforgiveyou.png
You are evil. And hilarious.
Gungans are annoying because they're attempting to be Jamaican aliens. That is not acceptable. The only acceptable Jamaican aliens came from the 8th dimension in Buckaroo Banzai. They are the real Jamaican aliens; all the other Jamaican aliens are just imitating. :3
Dan has survived massive would-normally-be-fatal blood loss again! He now qualifies as an official anime hero and is hereby licensed to gain tremendous increases in power for no logical reason whenever it's convenient for fighting super-powered bad guys. :3
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 10:02:45 AM
I have drawn it:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/Iforgiveyou.png
Eheheheeeee. That's awesome. Front page fan-art material right there, yep.
Quote from: Pagan on April 13, 2009, 10:46:42 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 10:02:45 AM
I have drawn it:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/Iforgiveyou.png
Eheheheeeee. That's awesome. Front page fan-art material right there, yep.
Quote from: Jairus on April 13, 2009, 10:09:15 AM
You are evil. And hilarious.
Thanks. :3
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Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 07:54:58 AM
However, while she probably would take DP out of the equation for good and all if Dan died,
Why you think that I don't know, since she can't even step out Twinks.
Can't, or won't? Avenging the death of her (only?) son might be worth the risk. I might add that this is what Destania (as Biggs) said would happen if he did die, so you don't have to take it from me :P
Besides which:
:shapeshifters
...so no-one really has to know that it was her who did it, let alone where they came from or where they went afterwards.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 10:02:45 AM
I have drawn it:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/Iforgiveyou.png
Evil, evil!
Now, it would be epic if the next panel had Fi sliced up and dead, and Abel going "Apology accepted."
Personally, about the Jar Jar thing, while I never really liked the gungan, I never got into the rabid hate of him either. Personally, I think he gets a lot of the blame for the prequel trilogy not being as good as the original dumped on him, as it's easy to blame an annoying and unpopular charater than a combination of bad writing, bad acting, and general incoherecy.
Me, I was more annoyed at how brazenly Lucas trampled over the EU than Jar Jar.
Now we wait and see if when Dan finally wakes up if his sister and Willy clunk his head for getting injured.
As for Abel. Maybe he has a more brotherly feeling to Dan even though not really related. You know, I love you but you really annoy me kind of relationship. The history of Abel's might give enough of a connection for him to actually like Dan even though he says differently.
Although if Falina has taking a more motherly relationship with Abel I doubt she will frappe him. Unless of course that's the cubi form of a spanking. But I wonder if she might be more upset with Dan's mom then with Abel. :kruger
As for Jar Jar he annoys me because of his loud, annoying, and non-stopping voice. But such a nice and quite picture heals such deep wounds. I think they where trying for a silly character and just took it a little to far.
Quote from: joshofspam on April 13, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
But I wonder if she might be more upset with Dan's mom then with Abel. :kruger
..Should I draw Fa'Lina holding
Dest over the mixer? :B
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 12:06:44 PM
Quote from: joshofspam on April 13, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
But I wonder if she might be more upset with Dan's mom then with Abel. :kruger
..Should I draw Fa'Lina holding Dest over the mixer? :B
Doooooooo eeeeeeeeeet...
Quote from: Jairus on April 13, 2009, 12:07:27 PM
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Quote from: joshofspam on April 13, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
But I wonder if she might be more upset with Dan's mom then with Abel. :kruger
..Should I draw Fa'Lina holding Dest over the mixer? :B
Doooooooo eeeeeeeeeet...
Seconded! Doooooooooo eeeeeeeeeeet!!
What I found interesting about Jar-Jar was that several people told me that it was an offensive racial stereotype. However, they each felt that it was a different race that was being caricatured.
Quote from: Naldru on April 13, 2009, 01:05:34 PM
What I found interesting about Jar-Jar was that several people told me that it was an offensive racial stereotype. However, they each felt that it was a different race that was being caricatured.
Yeah, that's what I heard. And I never saw it. First time I saw the movie, I thought he was a little annoying, but I also thought the poor guy was in
way over his head. He's a normal, slightly clumsy guy who gets rescued by two Jedi, dragged along on their mission, helps rescue a princess, ends up involved in Galactic politics, and at the end of it gets mistaken for a great hero... he's just a normal guy caught up in stuff that he doesn't understand, but he's making the best of it. And then Palpatine uses his affection for his friends to manipulate him into giving him the power he needs to take over the galaxy. He never stood a chance.
So, any ideas what the next strip will be? Dan in bed all bandaged up, something like that?
I never hated Jar Jar myself - though I have to admit that I was ten when the movie came out - and never really understood the hate other than the fact that he was an annoying sidekick.
The love scenes between Anakin and Padme in Attack of the Clones, on the other hand... (Admittedly, that had been less "God, what crappy writing/acting/whatever" and more "Dammit, where's the action?!")
Strip-wise, it doesn't look like Fi told Abel about Devin yet - though I'd hate to see what would happen if he does...
I hope that Fi tells Abel about Devin. I wanna see Abel's reaction.
I remember when one of the reviews came out, they had this rhetorical question (It was for revenge of the sith) "Why is the best love scene between Anakin and Padme the one where they're in seperate buildings and have no lines?
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 12:06:44 PM
Quote from: joshofspam on April 13, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
But I wonder if she might be more upset with Dan's mom then with Abel. :kruger
..Should I draw Fa'Lina holding Dest over the mixer? :B
..And it has been done too.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/Iforgiveyou2.png
I guess Abel did learn something useful in Home Economics (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_553.php) after all.
ba dum tish.
You would have thought that he'd do something more exotic though........ I mean, a blender, even I would know about the intimidation power of a blender, and I've never been in a home ec class in my life. I would be more impressed if he was using a spatula and a salt shaker and got those results :P
Doing it with a spatula and salt shaker would take more effort, plus you have to factor in the possibility that Fi might just gulp the entire salt shaker down. I know it's normally unhealthy to do that, but I can certainly see Fi doing something like that.
Besides, I kind of got the impression that Abel dropped out of Cubi Home-ec class before he finished it, so he probably didn't learn all of the course material in torture tactics and the like.
If he really wanted to be esoteric, he could've used a garlic press.
Quote from: Slacker Spice on April 13, 2009, 01:30:59 PM
The love scenes between Anakin and Padme in Attack of the Clones, on the other hand... (Admittedly, that had been less "God, what crappy writing/acting/whatever" and more "Dammit, where's the action?!")
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on April 13, 2009, 01:38:08 PM
I remember when one of the reviews came out, they had this rhetorical question (It was for revenge of the sith) "Why is the best love scene between Anakin and Padme the one where they're in seperate buildings and have no lines?
Actually, I liked the love scenes between Anakin and Padme because they were so awkward. They actually reminded me of Romeo and Juliet: two more or less teenagers completely inexperienced in matters of love (Padme's been a politician since she was fourteen, while Anakin's been in an order of monks that discourage love since he was nine) who are totally infatuated with each other and have no idea how to act or how to back off and see things more clearly. Leia and Han's relationship is one of two people more experienced in these matters: Anakin and Padme's is one doomed to fail from the start, and that's what makes it so tragic. At least, that's kinda how I've seen it.
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Quote from: joshofspam on April 13, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
But I wonder if she might be more upset with Dan's mom then with Abel. :kruger
..Should I draw Fa'Lina holding Dest over the mixer? :B
..And it has been done too.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/Iforgiveyou2.png
Oh, that's just wrong. And so deliciously evil. Great job, bro! >:3
HAHAHAHAHA!!! :giggle
I did wonder why Fi wasn't getting Abel....
Seriously, though, that happened FAST! I thought maybe there would have been one or more strips in between.... :erk
Anyway, good to see Wildy again (especially since that whole "Janus Bond" thing STILL hasn't been reconciled between her and Jyrras). :)
And yeah, I also thought of Wildy's comment being interpreted differently....
<.<
>.>
...though under the circumstances I don't think she actually meant it that way.
Since Alexsi seems to have wanted her there I wonder if it's because she's a shaman....
I too want Fi to mention Devin to Abel, but the mere fact that everyone DOES want to see that makes me wonder if Amber's not going to do it--at least not at this point in time. String us along, in other words.... She doesn't strike me as the sort to engage in fanservice unless it's for her own purposes, like mocking strips that do (though admittedly I haven't been here that long), but then again, if she DOESN'T do it because so many fans want to see that, that could still be seen as letting them influence her too much....
I don't know. *shrugs* I'd like to see that myself, but I'll take what Amber dishes out. ;)
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Quote from: joshofspam on April 13, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
But I wonder if she might be more upset with Dan's mom then with Abel. :kruger
..Should I draw Fa'Lina holding Dest over the mixer? :B
..And it has been done too.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/Iforgiveyou2.png
It may be me and my disturbed mind but that blender is a tad to clean for round 2...
I'm not sure that mentioning Devin would get much of any reaction from Abel. It's been, what? About three hundred years (or something like that) since Devin died. Abel has likely met at least a few other people with that name since then...
Granted, they'd likely all be cubi, since he apparently never left SAIA in all that time, but still...
Will it blend?
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on April 13, 2009, 08:01:13 AM
O thonk thi riesun wi git Abel biong e sucoupeth on thi lest fremi os dai tu thi niid fur sume holeroty, elsu noci tu sii Wildy egeon. O hed biin thonkong O mossid her entocs.
I guess it did already.
Quote from: Madmann135 on April 13, 2009, 02:57:07 PM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 12:06:44 PM
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/Iforgiveyou2.png
It may be me and my disturbed mind but that blender is a tad to clean for round 2...
..She cleaned it after round 1.
Ah blenders, one of the greatest inventions of mankind. It can be used for intimidation, mutilation, education, fun, and cooking. It's so multipurpose.
Edit: Amber, there is nothing wrong with playing a Gungan, even if you do use their accent there's no problem with it. Although I do wonder if you're using the new or the old system?
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on April 13, 2009, 11:26:55 AM
Now, it would be epic if the next panel had Fi sliced up and dead, and Abel going "Apology accepted."
You presume that blending would kill Fi, rather than merely being extremely unpleasant.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 13, 2009, 03:30:56 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on April 13, 2009, 11:26:55 AM
Now, it would be epic if the next panel had Fi sliced up and dead, and Abel going "Apology accepted."
You presume that blending would kill Fi, rather than merely being extremely unpleasant.
*stretches joke even more* Depends. Is it a Blendtec blender? They are really powerful...
the image I have in mind is a well-shredded Warp Aci.
Whilst still alive. And unhappy. Extremely so.
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Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on April 13, 2009, 11:26:55 AM
Now, it would be epic if the next panel had Fi sliced up and dead, and Abel going "Apology accepted."
You presume that blending would kill Fi, rather than merely being extremely unpleasant.
*stretches joke even more* Depends. Is it a Blendtec blender? They are really powerful...
It probably does not matter what type of blender. We have evidence that unless Abel was using magic to prevent Fi from using his abilities, he could presumably jump into some object. Like what happened when Pip attacked Fi. Also, if Abel killed Fi then Fa'lina might do something like this...
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 10:02:45 AM
I have drawn it:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/Iforgiveyou.png
but with the text appropriately modified for the situation.
QuoteAlso, great sketch, Amber. Love the Gungan. Where does this Jar-Jar hate come from anyway? Anyway, good luck with the t-shirt designs.
I'm hardly neutral on this matter... so I'll give my point of view. In the original 3 Star Wars films the characters of C3PO and R2D2 served both as comic relief, and as methods by which to frame the exploits of the characters. When R2 gave his calculations on Luke's (and Han's) survival at the start of
Empire Strikes Back, you could feel the little droid's misery just as much as Leia's.
When episodes 1-3 were made however... Lucas tried to recreate the dynamics that made C3PO and R2D2 work in his first three efforts... and failed.
First, there was the accent... after just 30 minutes of listening to Jar Jar most people just want to slice his tongue off. C3PO at least had an off switch.
Second, the shenanigans. C3PO and R2D2 were rarely used as plot devices to
GET everybody else
in trouble. Exampling the scene(s) at Mos Eisely Space Port. While C3PO and R2D2 were responsible for the imperial guards showing interest, there was nothing they did themselves that caused the interest. Then again in the Cantina scene, where the two droids left rather than cause trouble. By the second and third original films, the two droids were serving as catalysts to get everybody
OUT of trouble. Case in point being R2D2 smuggling in Luke's lightsabre, and C3PO being left in the dark to fool Jabba as to the intentions of "
everbody" else.
Jar Jar... however... was constantly used as a plot device to put the jedi in danger. Not that I want to watch Episode 1 again, but seriously, when did Jar Jar do something that didn't result in some kind of trouble? Then the whole tie in with Jar Jar being used to put Palpatine into power? Jar Jar as a plot device was overkill.
Third, the representation. Episodes 1-3 just didn't capture the magic of the first three films. In truth, the non-George Lucas produced material turned out much better, and I'm thinking of stuff like the
Jedi Knight video game series. Jar Jar is a convenient target to shoot at because he (as a character) represents much of how George Lucas just completely lost it. One of the other webcomics I read, Darths and Droids (http://www.darthsanddroids.net/), does a good job of deconstructing the various events that made absolutely no sense in the movies. Seriously, I'm outright depressed at how many problems I missed when watching Episodes 1 and 2 (so far), and ecstatic that somehow I didn't pick up on them to begin with.
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Okay, to the comic... and just what would have Able done ANYWAYS to DP? Pout?
Jar-Jar Binks is an abomination unto sci-fi. Wee-Jee, on the other hand, is very much the good.
Ah, threats of violence. Is there anything you can't sol-
What's that fire? You can cross language barriers? I'll have to keep that in mind!
Quote from: Saist on April 13, 2009, 05:03:51 PM
Okay, to the comic... and just what would have Able done ANYWAYS to DP? Pout?
Abel seems to have spent centuries learning survivalism if what Dee said to Alexsi is accurate. And from Fa'Lina's comments in AS2, it seems that his initial interest was in fighting Aniz. Hence, if he's spent 400 years without learning a single defensive or offensive spell, I would be very, very surprised. At the very least he'd serve as a distraction.
EDIT:
Case in point, the Sword Trick. That would certainly make for an interesting battle.
does wildly seem darker than usual?
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 05:15:22 PM
Quote from: Saist on April 13, 2009, 05:03:51 PM
Okay, to the comic... and just what would have Able done ANYWAYS to DP? Pout?
Abel seems to have spent centuries learning survivalism if what Dee said to Alexsi is accurate. And from Fa'Lina's comments in AS2, it seems that his initial interest was in fighting Aniz. Hence, if he's spent 400 years without learning a single defensive or offensive spell, I would be very, very surprised. At the very least he'd serve as a distraction.
EDIT:
Case in point, the Sword Trick. That would certainly make for an interesting battle.
Another part that would make it a really interesting battle: Abel's hemophobia.
hmmm.... projectile vomit? nah, too gross. (sorry to those I grossed out by mentioning the idea)
Quote from: Kenway975 on April 13, 2009, 06:13:58 PM
Another part that would make it a really interesting battle: Abel's hemophobia.
Very true. I'm not sure how I forgot that, though to be fair we don't know to what extent he's able to control it after 375 years of study.
If he still can't, I guess he'd have to act as a distraction, which would still have been very handy for Dan in this instance.
I'm still thinking that if a Warp-Aci can ignore gravity at will, I'm sure they can ignore more "conventional" concepts too. I see them being a lot like fae:
I don't want the blender to blend me, therefore it doesn't.
Of course they probably aren't fae, so I'm also probably over the line where their actual abilities end. We don't need two races in one world with the ability:
I want to have hugged you, therefore you have been hugged!
I agree with all the Jar-Jar hate. The character is annoying at its core, is preset too often, and is such a blatant contrivance that I just want to break Lucas. The one episode of the Clone Wars series on TV now that I saw Jar-Jar in had him take out a squad of Pirate Hovertanks. I could understand tripping over a rock and maybe blowing up 1 with an accidental thermal detonator explosion, but tripping and starting a chain reaction that blows up like 5 tanks over the course of a minute as they all end up shooting eachother?!
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: Kenway975 on April 13, 2009, 06:13:58 PM
Another part that would make it a really interesting battle: Abel's hemophobia.
Very true. I'm not sure how I forgot that, though to be fair we don't know to what extent he's able to control it after 375 years of study.
Not Very Well, If I Recall. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_625.php)
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on April 13, 2009, 06:34:07 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: Kenway975 on April 13, 2009, 06:13:58 PM
Another part that would make it a really interesting battle: Abel's hemophobia.
Very true. I'm not sure how I forgot that, though to be fair we don't know to what extent he's able to control it after 375 years of study.
Not Very Well, If I Recall. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_625.php)
but that was a non-combat situation. you normally expect blood in a combat situation, and thus Abel would not be as blind-sided.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on April 13, 2009, 06:34:07 PM
Not Very Well, If I Recall. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_625.php)
Perhaps. From what Amber was saying at the time, there may be more to that incident than meets the eye. If you want, I can dig it up, but it was something to the tune of 'Abel has told at least one lie [in strip 627], but that he has haemophobia isn't it'.
If he
has managed to control it - which his penchant for sharp things like swords and the axe he was attacking Dan with might suggest - that incident may have been a bit too close to what happened to Hennya for him to keep it in, so to speak.
EDIT:
http://nice.llearch.net/dmfa_forum3165.htm#ref43
"As for Abel, he is lying about something in this comic, but its not the hemophobia."
...'course for all we know it's a lie about the origami :P
Quote from: Shachza on April 13, 2009, 06:30:43 PM
I agree with all the Jar-Jar hate. The character is annoying at its core, is preset too often, and is such a blatant contrivance that I just want to break Lucas. The one episode of the Clone Wars series on TV now that I saw Jar-Jar in had him take out a squad of Pirate Hovertanks. I could understand tripping over a rock and maybe blowing up 1 with an accidental thermal detonator explosion, but tripping and starting a chain reaction that blows up like 5 tanks over the course of a minute as they all end up shooting eachother?!
I once saw someone putting together an argument that Jar-Jar showed true Jedi nature. Whilst it would horrify me to see him being tagged as a Jedi (about on par with the suggestion in UserFriendly, about Attack of the Clones, before it came out, suggesting that the clones in question were clones of Jar-Jar *shudder*), the argument was clearly substantive; he just is, and things happen the way he wants - he isn't trying to kill tanks, he just attempts to help, and accidentally drops a cart full of those exploding balls onto one of them; he doesn't try to shoot everything, he just is, and they fall down; etc etc. It was a well-researched discussion, and I wish I knew where it was...
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 01:42:46 PM
..And it has been done too.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/Iforgiveyou2.png
I'm trying to decide if the image of Destania, terror of SAIA, struggling desperately and being held up by her tail is funny enough to be illegal, immoral or fattening.
Possibly all three. ;)
Wait a minute...doesn't Fi have the ability to teleport? and Defy Gravity? and go into magical objects? Any one of those abilities would have gotten him out of this situation. I think someone suggested magic, but I don't think we've seen very many chances of that. Remember, Abel knew that Dan could teleport (during Merlitz leaving) but yet he didn't stop Fi from letting him do so.
Quote from: N-Cat on April 13, 2009, 07:39:28 PM
Wait a minute...doesn't Fi have the ability to teleport? and Defy Gravity? and go into magical objects? Any one of those abilities would have gotten him out of this situation. I think someone suggested magic, but I don't think we've seen very many chances of that. Remember, Abel knew that Dan could teleport (during Merlitz leaving) but yet he didn't stop Fi from letting him do so.
At the same time, many magic types that prevent people from doing things only work in close proximity. And many times it takes a bit of preparation to do so.
As much fun as the third panel is, I can't help focusing on how this appears to be the first sign of genuine sympathy that Wildy-san has ever shown in any context in the entire history of the comic.
Then again, we are approaching Strip #1000. The Furrae-shaking events cannot stop happening just because we're back at the Lake! :U
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 13, 2009, 06:53:08 PM
I once saw someone putting together an argument that Jar-Jar showed true Jedi nature. Whilst it would horrify me to see him being tagged as a Jedi (about on par with the suggestion in UserFriendly, about Attack of the Clones, before it came out, suggesting that the clones in question were clones of Jar-Jar *shudder*), the argument was clearly substantive; he just is, and things happen the way he wants - he isn't trying to kill tanks, he just attempts to help, and accidentally drops a cart full of those exploding balls onto one of them; he doesn't try to shoot everything, he just is, and they fall down; etc etc. It was a well-researched discussion, and I wish I knew where it was...
there is an interesting episode of the new clone wars series that seems to back up that piont. In a scene where Jar Jar went out to nagotiate with a group of pirates. the leader of his clone escorts held his troops back sure that Jar Jar could handle the wequey and there tanks on his own. He managed to destroy the tanks and cut power to the pirates base on his own, accidently of course.
Hmmmm... that last panel might make a decent t-shirt.
I wouldn't know. :U
I am somewhat neutral on Jar Jar Binks role in the movie, as he has had good and bad moments, although I do dislike how he was used as a plot hammer to continuously get others into trouble.
On Gungans? I have nothing against them at all, and actually like them as a race. Jar Jar, in so far as I can tell from the context of the movies, was an atypical example of his race - other gungans thought that his carelessness and accident prone nature was serious enough to ban him from their cities. Particularly after he unintentionally flooded one of them.
Wee Jee appears to be of the 'innocent abroad' type to judge only by one drawing. At a guess, I'd say, friendly, curious, helpful, more likely to favor diplomacy to combat (but not necessarily a coward, just more of a civilian than a combatant), and likely a very nice person to know. :3
Now... Has anyone seen my cookies? :P
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 13, 2009, 05:15:22 PM
Case in point, the Sword Trick. That would certainly make for an interesting battle.
But does Dark Pegasus even know any origami? :mowtongue
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 01:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 13, 2009, 12:06:44 PM
Quote from: joshofspam on April 13, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
But I wonder if she might be more upset with Dan's mom then with Abel. :kruger
..Should I draw Fa'Lina holding Dest over the mixer? :B
..And it has been done too.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/Iforgiveyou2.png
RECYCLING SAVES THE WORLD PEOPLE!!!
Still epic fanart.
i approve of the amount of star wars in this thread.
i'm rather glad wildy WASN'T there, since regina did try to kill her. not quite sure what wildy's response to seeing her again will be.
Quote from: icarus on April 14, 2009, 04:18:44 AM
i'm rather glad wildy WASN'T there, since regina did try to kill her. not quite sure what wildy's response to seeing her again will be.
Refresh my memory--when did that happen again...?
Quote from: Baal Hadad on April 14, 2009, 04:24:58 AM
Refresh my memory--when did that happen again...?
In "Regina's Story", I think. However, see here: http://missmab.com/Cast/regina.php
just in case someone gets tangled, it's in the main "stats"
Eye Colour: Purple
Often Seen: Working for Kria as a maid
Most known for: Nearly killing Wildy
also i think it's vaguely aluded to here (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_972.php).
It occurs to me that this scene cut has left the Lorenda-Dan-Matilda-Jyrras 'love polygon' rather up in the air. For instance, we don't know if Dan knows that he's now Lorenda's boyfriend, let alone anyone else.
Partially to Saist: This was obviously your favorite line in the whole new Star Wars trilogy: "She died of a broken heart."
Do I need any better example of why the movies sucked so catastrophically? It was like "General Hospital" in space, but with worse writing. :B
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 14, 2009, 07:45:41 AM
It occurs to me that this scene cut has left the Lorenda-Dan-Matilda-Jyrras 'love polygon' rather up in the air. For instance, we don't know if Dan knows that he's now Lorenda's boyfriend, let alone anyone else.
I'm sure that he got that little memo from Krya in no uncertain terms. Namely "I," "Want," and "Grandkids."
Quote from: insidexml on April 13, 2009, 10:45:45 PM
Hmmmm... that last panel might make a decent t-shirt.
I dunno..more like a decent sitcom, if you ask me.
Off-Topic: by the way, are you the same Insidexml for the katbox forums?
QuoteI'm sure that he got that little memo from Krya in no uncertain terms. Namely "I," "Want," and "Grandkids."
"You call me Grandma now. Call me grandma like crazy!"
Quotethere is an interesting episode of the new clone wars series that seems to back up that piont. In a scene where Jar Jar went out to nagotiate with a group of pirates. the leader of his clone escorts held his troops back sure that Jar Jar could handle the wequey and there tanks on his own. He managed to destroy the tanks and cut power to the pirates base on his own, accidently of course.
That's the exact scene I was talking about. He 'accidentally' takes out an entire squad of tanks by tripping over a rock or something.
Ah, with all the Star Wars Hype that came from the new star wars. I was pleasantly amused by the Robot chicken Star Wars theme based episodes.
Yes I think Jar Jars race is cool, I just don't like Jar Jar. I mean who didn't like it when Darth Vader throw him out an air lock only to have him come back like old Ben did. Maybe that's why Vaders so angry all the time (Oooohs Anakin you killed another general uses going to have to reanges yous upper managements again). Yes I can't really right his language all that well, but if that's what vader had to deal with maybe we should blame it wasn't all his fault. :giggle
But with onto the whole grand kids and Kria subject, if this second relationship doesn't work out in Kria's eyes do you think she'll throttle Dan. I mean it took allot of convincing from her daughter to not kill Jyrras. So do you think she'll be less restrained with a second relationship crash from her point of view. :kruger
I think we're almost guaranteed a visit to Lost Lake Inn by Kria now -- she's got to check on how the father of her future grandkids is doing after all (and is very likely to announce it to Dan in just that manner -- hopefully Lorenda will have had a moment to clue Dan in on their new "relationship" by then (however, as we know, the comic rule is "it's always too late")).
I wonder if Kria came with Lorenda this time to help get Dan back home? I'm guessing no -- she probably just helped with the patching up. I figure Lorenda carried Dan and Fi provided teleport, once Fi was finished with the sandwiches.
I believe you're confusing Kria and Fa'Lina.
Kria, we don't know how she's going to react. Possibly you'll be right, possibly not. I suspect she'll still be scandalising Lorenda for years to come, which is not immediately congruent with the grandkiddy act.
Quote from: Shachza on April 14, 2009, 01:48:25 PM
"You call me Grandma now. Call me grandma like crazy!"
only surfing you do now is under a big wave of responsability!
Quote from: Shachza on April 14, 2009, 01:48:25 PM
Quotethere is an interesting episode of the new clone wars series that seems to back up that piont. In a scene where Jar Jar went out to nagotiate with a group of pirates. the leader of his clone escorts held his troops back sure that Jar Jar could handle the wequey and there tanks on his own. He managed to destroy the tanks and cut power to the pirates base on his own, accidently of course.
That's the exact scene I was talking about. He 'accidentally' takes out an entire squad of tanks by tripping over a rock or something.
Ohh I thought you ment the scene from the movie where he accidently destroyed a number of driod tanks...
See thats something that bothers me more then Jar Jar... the way the driod army uses vehicals... why would a robotic army have tanks with standard controls? While they would need troop transports why are there any controls in a driod tank... the tanks should be driods themselves like the vulture driods (the driod army space fighters) the same goes for the driod navy's ships. Why are there control panels rather then hardwired driod operators, why are there gunnery stations that need to be manned rather then opperated by hardwired driod inteligances, Why is there even an atmosphere maintained in the driod ships in the instances with no living crew.
repair is often easier if you can access, but, as you say, with no living crew, the atmosphere becomes a heavy price to pay - it leaks, corrodes, and causes failures.
Of course, you also have to cart it about with you. There could be the issue of the robots in the ship not being rated for space, but since that's a single atmosphere difference, one would think it relatively trivial to make sure they become so...
Quote from: thegayhare on April 14, 2009, 08:38:31 PM
.... Why is there even an atmosphere maintained in the driod ships in the instances with no living crew.
That part I can answer. Cooling and general thermoregulation of the ship and the droids for starters. Vastly easier to deal with all this when you have an atmosphere you can circulate throughout the ship (and for each droid to use for their own cooling/heating as well) -- amongst other things, you don't want to drop droids that are as cold as space down on a planet that is hundreds of degrees warmer. Also, there is the issue of static regulation -- items in vacuum can build up incredible static charges - which does nasty things when they touch other charged items. Also, materials behave quite differently in vacuum versus atmosphere (many quite stable materials on Earth break down like mad when exposed to vacuum and the enormous range of temperature cycling in space for a while). You have a vastly wider array of materials you could use to build droids for in-atmospheric use (no doubt with much cheaper materials available in most cases -- remember, these droids are a very commercial product, made as cheaply as possible); and the droids also only have to be designed for in-atmospheric use (and for a vastly more narrow range of operating temperatures) -- which is how they are to be used after all -- making them far simpler and cheaper to design and build.
All that said, there is absolutely *no* reason to have an oxygen environment, and lots of reasons *not* to have an oxygen environment -- a pure nitrogen atmosphere would be much better -- inert under most reasonable conditions, and quite cheaply supplied.
Quote from: thegayhare on April 14, 2009, 08:38:31 PM
Ohh I thought you ment the scene from the movie where he accidently destroyed a number of driod tanks...
See thats something that bothers me more then Jar Jar... the way the driod army uses vehicals... why would a robotic army have tanks with standard controls? While they would need troop transports why are there any controls in a driod tank... the tanks should be driods themselves like the vulture driods (the driod army space fighters) the same goes for the driod navy's ships. Why are there control panels rather then hardwired driod operators, why are there gunnery stations that need to be manned rather then opperated by hardwired driod inteligances, Why is there even an atmosphere maintained in the driod ships in the instances with no living crew.
Because no one had had a war in a long time, and the only warship designs they had to start with were for biological crews. And their generals were biological.
Quote...there is absolutely *no* reason to have an oxygen environment...
Contrary to some of the movie antics General Grievus(sp?) doesn't look very 'air tight.' :P
So I'm seeing a scene that's soon-to-be... Kria walks in and asks how the father of her future grandchildren is. Lorenda stammers something about not dating anymore. Wildy and Kria go at it to be first to beat the crap out of Dan.
Because the person who writes a starship captain saying "I made the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs" with parsecs being a unit of distance probably didn't think these things out? (And yes, I read the EU stuff about the Maw. I still don't believe Lucas knew the difference.
Grevious has a lot of problems as well. Look at the fight he has with Obi-Wan. He's strong enough to dent concrete, or whatever they use for flooring of hangars, but Obi-Wan manages to pull that pike/staff thing right out of his hands. Also, why does shooting him in the chest make his head catch fire?
As to the real DMFA stuff, I heard somewhere (one of the Sunday chats, I think) that Matilda will be showing the next arc. My money would be on any problems with Kria being taken to her doorstep.
It's very amusing to me to see the amount of brainpower applied to explaining away the various gaffes, hoseups, and general stupidities Lucas dumped all over the whole Star Wars universe -- vastly more brainpower than Lucas used to create any of it, I guarantee. (Though this is hardly limited to Star Wars. I would be very hard pressed to name one single scifi movie or series that was *not* riddled with absolutely absurd situations, idiotic designs, and ridiculously illogical plot elements.)
I hope we do get to see Matilda soon - she's one of my favorites. Maybe she'll bring Dan some chicken soup to make him feel all better.
Quote from: tiggertoo on April 15, 2009, 12:33:55 AM
I hope we do get to see Matilda soon - she's one of my favorites. Maybe she'll bring Dan some chicken soup to make him feel all better.
Having lost a lot of blood, I think Dan will actually need to eat something. I hope Mab
doesn't try brownies.
Quote from: inuhanyo on April 15, 2009, 02:06:05 AM
Quote from: tiggertoo on April 15, 2009, 12:33:55 AM
I hope we do get to see Matilda soon - she's one of my favorites. Maybe she'll bring Dan some chicken soup to make him feel all better.
Having lost a lot of blood, I think Dan will actually need to eat something. I hope Mab doesn't try brownies.
So does Dan, I'm sure.
Back to Wee Jee: What's the crunch on Gungans?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 14, 2009, 08:50:32 PM
repair is often easier if you can access, but, as you say, with no living crew, the atmosphere becomes a heavy price to pay - it leaks, corrodes, and causes failures.
True but you can do it both ways, since some of the ships do carry living crew and live prisnors. but even with the idea that maintenance would be easier you still don't need a manualy consols on a droid ship. With integrated droid controllers at station pionts you would be able to avoid some of the problems that crop up in the show. For example in one ep Anikan broke in to the command deck. killed all the droids and then altered the course to cause the ship to crash into a moon. If the navi station didn't have any external controls like that and had the integrated droid intelegance that wouldn't have worked.
Also with droid tanks if you take out all the crew space you'd get alot smaller target for the jedi to blow up and you'd remove the instances of having clones using your weapons against you.
Quote from: inuhanyo on April 14, 2009, 09:48:31 PM
Because no one had had a war in a long time, and the only warship designs they had to start with were for biological crews. And their generals were biological.
Ok so maybe having the shisp open to vacum isn't a good idea I hadn't thought of the temperture differances. But that could be solved by keeping ground troops deactivated in there landing craft. the landing craft could be presurised and heated. and we do know that these ships can safely go from space to atmo. this way guards and ship crew would never have to leave the space ships. But it might be easier to use a inert gass rather then a breathable atmo. Not all there ships were under the control of a biological general, lately they have been showing ships under conrtol of these goofy looking tactical driods. even if the ship had a biological commanders the whole ship needn't be supplied with breathable air, just the command deck, crew quarters, mess, and the like. In one scene we've seen that the driod ships have brigs so you may say the need to keep prisnors alive but they wouldn't need to put air in the whole ship for that. make the doors to the cell a double doored airlock breathable air inside, inert gas outside and they'd have no way to escape. also it would be buch harder for enemies to preform bording actions if they couldn't breath once on board. combat in a space suit against unencumbered driods would be much harder
Quote from: tiggertoo on April 15, 2009, 12:33:55 AM
It's very amusing to me to see the amount of brainpower applied to explaining away the various gaffes, hoseups, and general stupidities Lucas dumped all over the whole Star Wars universe -- vastly more brainpower than Lucas used to create any of it, I guarantee. (Though this is hardly limited to Star Wars. I would be very hard pressed to name one single scifi movie or series that was *not* riddled with absolutely absurd situations, idiotic designs, and ridiculously illogical plot elements.)
You mean Dr. Who isn't completely true-to-life?!
I guess I should stop trying to build a TARDIS... :<
Quote from: Alondro on April 15, 2009, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: tiggertoo on April 15, 2009, 12:33:55 AM
It's very amusing to me to see the amount of brainpower applied to explaining away the various gaffes, hoseups, and general stupidities Lucas dumped all over the whole Star Wars universe -- vastly more brainpower than Lucas used to create any of it, I guarantee. (Though this is hardly limited to Star Wars. I would be very hard pressed to name one single scifi movie or series that was *not* riddled with absolutely absurd situations, idiotic designs, and ridiculously illogical plot elements.)
You mean Dr. Who isn't completely true-to-life?!
I guess I should stop trying to build a TARDIS... :<
Old, new, or both Docter Who series Tardis.
Why do I think its possible there may be a small dispute between Windy and Lorenda over who gets to help Dan recover ?
Ok , it may be wishfull thinking on my part , too much Manga reading :mowtongue
Quote from: thegayhare on April 14, 2009, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: Shachza on April 14, 2009, 01:48:25 PM
Quotethere is an interesting episode of the new clone wars series that seems to back up that piont. In a scene where Jar Jar went out to nagotiate with a group of pirates. the leader of his clone escorts held his troops back sure that Jar Jar could handle the wequey and there tanks on his own. He managed to destroy the tanks and cut power to the pirates base on his own, accidently of course.
That's the exact scene I was talking about. He 'accidentally' takes out an entire squad of tanks by tripping over a rock or something.
Ohh I thought you ment the scene from the movie where he accidently destroyed a number of driod tanks...
See thats something that bothers me more then Jar Jar... the way the driod army uses vehicals... why would a robotic army have tanks with standard controls? While they would need troop transports why are there any controls in a driod tank... the tanks should be driods themselves like the vulture driods (the driod army space fighters) the same goes for the driod navy's ships. Why are there control panels rather then hardwired driod operators, why are there gunnery stations that need to be manned rather then opperated by hardwired driod inteligances, Why is there even an atmosphere maintained in the driod ships in the instances with no living crew.
The tanks don't have standard controls. There isn't anybody in the tank in the cannon explanation. The tanks are not tanks, they're really big droids. The original explanation was they were AI run.
Quote from: Alondro on April 15, 2009, 02:00:26 PM
You mean Dr. Who isn't completely true-to-life?!
I guess I should stop trying to build a TARDIS... :<
According to Larry Niven, constructing a working TARDIS would result in disruptions to the space time continuum that would have resulted in your not having built a TARDIS. So you may have succeeded. You'll never know.
Holding an atmosphere doesn't seem to be very difficult in the star wars universe -- I mean, for all we know, space is full of air in their universe. It would explain a lot!
Like, you know, the time where they flew the millennium falcon into a hole in an asteroid, opened the door, got out and walked around with tiny little gas masks as their only protection. All the ships being streamlined and/or looking like they're about to fall apart -- how in the world could the Millenium Falcon still be airtight? And all their docking bays are open to space...
No, wait, there was one episode of the clone wars tv series that confirmed that space had vacuum. Foo.
Quote from: mopman on April 15, 2009, 03:55:05 PM
Why do I think its possible there may be a small dispute between Windy and Lorenda over who gets to help Dan recover ?
Ok , it may be wishfull thinking on my part , too much Manga reading :mowtongue
Windy? Who's Windy?
Quote from: Naldru on April 15, 2009, 05:21:45 PM
Quote from: Alondro on April 15, 2009, 02:00:26 PM
You mean Dr. Who isn't completely true-to-life?!
I guess I should stop trying to build a TARDIS... :<
According to Larry Niven, constructing a working TARDIS would result in disruptions to the space time continuum that would have resulted in your not having built a TARDIS. So you may have succeeded. You'll never know.
Unless you can create a universe of infinite space within a universe of infinite space, assuming relative space is meaningless outside the bounds of that particular universe. In which case, there'd be no door into it, cuz then the two universes would link and blow up.. or implode? I dunno. :B
Quote from: Rakala on April 15, 2009, 03:57:20 PM
The tanks don't have standard controls. There isn't anybody in the tank in the cannon explanation. The tanks are not tanks, they're really big droids. The original explanation was they were AI run.
actualy your wrong there
The standard AAT tanks used by the droid army used standard crew sets with stations for 4 differnt driods
as seen here in a diagram from Wookieepedia
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/6/62/AAT_ep1ig.png)
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/6/62/AAT_ep1ig.png
Quote from: terrycloth on April 15, 2009, 06:06:17 PM
Holding an atmosphere doesn't seem to be very difficult in the star wars universe -- I mean, for all we know, space is full of air in their universe. It would explain a lot!
Like, you know, the time where they flew the millennium falcon into a hole in an asteroid, opened the door, got out and walked around with tiny little gas masks as their only protection. All the ships being streamlined and/or looking like they're about to fall apart -- how in the world could the Millenium Falcon still be airtight? And all their docking bays are open to space...
No, wait, there was one episode of the clone wars tv series that confirmed that space had vacuum. Foo.
The docking bays use force fields to retain atmosphere while letting ships pass through. OK, they didn't think out carefully the implications of that, but they do have a hand wave.
A lot of their ships take off and land on planets with atmospheres, hence the need for streamlining. Besides, streamlined ships look cool.
And remember the MST3K Mantra: "It's just a movie, I should really just relax."
Also Bellisarios Maxim: "Don't examine this too closely."
It's Space Opera, they didn't do the research carefully. Yeah, if I think about, it bothers me too.
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I'll have to ask her if she RPs the gungan accent next time I see her doing one of these.
I have compiled a list of things we are most likely to see:
1. Able shredding Fi.
2. A long dialog between Wildy and Alexsi regarding Dan.
3. Projectile vomiting.
4. A small clip about what is happening to Merlitz.
5. Fi mentioning Devin.
6. Absolute chaos.
7. Amber saying that she was attacked by a Tyrannosaurus-lochness monster hybrid and there by being unable to release on time. :mwaha
8. etc...
These are but a few of my expectations of what will happen next.
Quote from: Garsemor on April 16, 2009, 03:16:55 PM
I have compiled a list of things we are most likely to see:
1. Able shredding Fi.
Since the subtitle on that strip is "He won't really do it", I beg to differ. The others are all plausible...
Also, it's "Abel" >:3
I'm half expecting Wildy to go to Dan's room to check up on him..... it'd lead to some generally average diologue for the situation, if dan was even awake
I'm hoping for the accidental mention of Devin though, just to see how heavily Abel would freak out, lols
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 16, 2009, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Garsemor on April 16, 2009, 03:16:55 PM
I have compiled a list of things we are most likely to see:
1. Able shredding Fi.
Since the subtitle on that strip is "He won't really do it", I beg to differ. The others are all plausible...
Also, it's "Abel" >:3
You went after that, and not "driods"?
Quote from: inuhanyo on April 16, 2009, 12:34:44 AM
Quote from: terrycloth on April 15, 2009, 06:06:17 PM
Holding an atmosphere doesn't seem to be very difficult in the star wars universe -- I mean, for all we know, space is full of air in their universe. It would explain a lot!
Like, you know, the time where they flew the millennium falcon into a hole in an asteroid, opened the door, got out and walked around with tiny little gas masks as their only protection. All the ships being streamlined and/or looking like they're about to fall apart -- how in the world could the Millenium Falcon still be airtight? And all their docking bays are open to space...
No, wait, there was one episode of the clone wars tv series that confirmed that space had vacuum. Foo.
The docking bays use force fields to retain atmosphere while letting ships pass through. OK, they didn't think out carefully the implications of that, but they do have a hand wave.
A lot of their ships take off and land on planets with atmospheres, hence the need for streamlining. Besides, streamlined ships look cool.
And remember the MST3K Mantra: "It's just a movie, I should really just relax."
Also Bellisarios Maxim: "Don't examine this too closely."
It's Space Opera, they didn't do the research carefully. Yeah, if I think about, it bothers me too.
Actually (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_window), star wars and star trek forcefields in the hangar bar are actually a case of real life technology. Theoretically with enough energy, you could make a plasma window which keeps out atmosphere, but with a little pressure would let a ship go through just fine. And therefore achieving the exact same effect as star wars forcefields.
In the case of them walking around with masks, it was already pressurized outside(or something, it was a big asteroid.) Thus they only needed oxygen... at least I think that was the explaination in the movie.
Quote from: Kibin on April 18, 2009, 01:25:17 AM
Actually (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_window), star wars and star trek forcefields in the hangar bar are actually a case of real life technology. Theoretically with enough energy, you could make a plasma window which keeps out atmosphere, but with a little pressure would let a ship go through just fine. And therefore achieving the exact same effect as star wars forcefields.
Plasma window or forcefield, once a ship pierces it, you now have a situation where part of the hull is exposed to vacuum and an opposite section is still under air pressure. The imbalance results in a net force on the ship, pushing it out of the bay. Trying to enter the bay, the same situation occurs, except the ship now has to fight the force to get to where its pilot wants it to go. Even at 7 PSI, this can add up to a lot of force.
Quote from: ishidan on April 18, 2009, 01:00:32 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 16, 2009, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Garsemor on April 16, 2009, 03:16:55 PM
I have compiled a list of things we are most likely to see:
1. Able shredding Fi.
Since the subtitle on that strip is "He won't really do it", I beg to differ. The others are all plausible...
Also, it's "Abel" >:3
You went after that, and not "driods"?
What can we say? There's apparently a bunch of people here suffering (or making us suffer) from dixlesya. :mowwink
I think the biggest problem with Jarjar was his accent-he, and all of his race, sounded like somebody speaking to a toddler.
Considering that his biggest fanbase is the old school "I was there when Episode 1 opened" crew, suddenly getting a faceful of baby talk was GRATING.
Mace Windu? Dude. Samuel. L. Jackson. With a pimp lightsaber. Some of us were hoping there'd be a scene where Mace hangs out at Mos Eisley and a husband/wife pair of idiots pull out blasters and try to rob the place.
Yoda: This may be where he got the idea that a character with a verbal tic would be amusing. Hey, he may sound backwards in English, but his syntax still makes sense. We all have old and half-senile relatives that way talk they. Especially those of us whose elders grew up speaking another language, for which his syntax may sense make. Oh and seeing CGI Yoda flip out and throw down, before years on Dagobah turned him into Creaky Cane-Needing Old Fart, certainly high on fanboy list.
CGI Jabba: You're pushing here, but most of us also have relatives that have gone from obese to morbidly obese, especially as their careers had them driving more desks, so we can still dig it.
Ewoks: Perhaps how he thought that a character aimed at children would be acceptable. After all, they're small and fuzzy! Well yes, but they also make no attempt to speak English, and fight like professionals-well executed ambushes into log mantraps, stealing speeder bikes and piloting them better than their original owners, perfectly fired barrages of arrows or thrown rocks, the courage to tactically maneuver under stormtrooper blaster fire.
Then there's Jar Jar.
Yoda's speech tic was ignorable because, after all, he's the last living Jedi sifu by the original series, and already a senior master by the prequels. Sure he can't speak English, but if you want to learn how to kick ass, you'd better learn how to think like he does.
Jar Jar is a walking blunder with the voice of a baby.
Quote from: ishidan on April 18, 2009, 04:13:12 AM
Ewoks: Perhaps how he thought that a character aimed at children would be acceptable. After all, they're small and fuzzy! Well yes, but they also make no attempt to speak English, and fight like professionals-well executed ambushes into log mantraps, stealing speeder bikes and piloting them better than their original owners, perfectly fired barrages of arrows or thrown rocks, the courage to tactically maneuver under stormtrooper blaster fire.
Makes a lot more sense if you
don't think of them as Rousseau's idyllic natives, and think of them as pack hunters, who have to trap and kill much larger prey animals than they are. I.e. humans vs mastodon herds. Who just might make war on each other at times.
Quote from: inuhanyo on April 15, 2009, 02:06:05 AM
Quote from: tiggertoo on April 15, 2009, 12:33:55 AM
I hope we do get to see Matilda soon - she's one of my favorites. Maybe she'll bring Dan some chicken soup to make him feel all better.
Having lost a lot of blood, I think Dan will actually need to eat something. I hope Mab doesn't try brownies.
Miss Mab? Microwavable haggis. :)
With regards,
Ted