Deification (OOC) (Mature)

[AmberCross]

Yeah, but you still have to deal with god of storms

Actually the airship thing is something I had already intended to do. Eventually I'm going to give my people hanggliders. From there they'll work out better, more mobile versions, and with my grace they shall fly. ^.^

[VAE]

Does that mean i should build my followers a metro?

[AmberCross]

Umm... you guys realize Aellor is taking care of the sun problem right? And as a result he's not currently at the divine meeting? I mean he may not have told them his exact plans, but he made it clear he was going to go fix it >.>

[Arcalane]

Umm... you guys realize Aellor is taking care of the sun problem right?

From a purely pragmatic standpoint; there is no guarantee your plan will succeed.

And hey, who says we can't have two suns?

[e_voyager]

Umm... you guys realize Aellor is taking care of the sun problem right? And as a result he's not currently at the divine meeting? I mean he may not have told them his exact plans, but he made it clear he was going to go fix it >.>

you can be in mutple places at once you know.

and while namak may have had 3 suns i'm sure the gm would tell us if there was more then one sun in theses skys

[VAE]

Well, planets orbiting a binary star system would be entirely possible.... just IIRC the heat output would be very variant...

[AmberCross]

you can be in mutple places at once you know.

Yup, and I am in fact two places right now! One with Hope and one with War. ^.^

It's just since this is sorta risky I'm putting all my concentration into this leaving essentially no attention to the archipelagos. Heck, Aellor doesn't even know about the stranger god, the volcano god, or of time's revitalizing yet. Well... maybe time, he'd probably have felt the effects of his return. But the other two definitely not.

As for variable heat output... that sounds like an awesome way to have seasons.

[e_voyager]

true. i was briefly in three places but now i've left the island behind for now. i just need to try and see the sun form a different angle. i wonder if my people will start praying for the miracle so that the gods may fix this broken world.

[Arcalane]

Some possible outcomes to think on;

1) Yaaaay the old sun is back at full strength. We drop our own project.

2) Yay the old sun is back, but it's only at half strength or something.

3) We make our own sun and it has what it takes. The bits of the old sun are kept as a memorial or something.

4) We make our own sun and it doesn't have what it takes to run the show by itself, at least for now. But it's better than no light at all.

5=2+4) Okay so like we glued bits of the old sun back together and turned it on but it's only at uh, half capacity or something. Our own sun can't run at full power either, but with the two of them everything runs fine.

[Meany]

And that's only If you lot get this done before Mr. King figures out how to do it himself.

[e_voyager]

sounds good to me but i'm having a hard time getting coordinated with the others. i'm hoping that we can get this done and get my followers into a better situation.

[AmberCross]

And that's only If you lot get this done before Mr. King figures out how to do it himself.

Hey! Working on it! Kinda waiting on you now

[e_voyager]

 Gm i want to give my followers specifically those who make the clothing visions of insulated clothing stuffed with feather an/ or fur sewn between the layers of fabric. i would go so far as to give away an example or two to help spread the idea among my people. one more thing Gm. is it with in Volare's power to guide the others gods to the materials they need to rebuild the sun even though he can't build it himself.

also  Volare is willing to make a deal or two with the gods of earth and literacy for bringing warmth (and a hot spring or two) and expanding the knowledge his people have of there world.

[Ashen Star]

Name: Sombriel
Depiction: So many forms.  An eligant woman with flowing black hair that meshed with a body of onyx.  A scarred girl in ragged coat and wide brimmed hat that hid all but her frown and luminous eyes.  A middle aged fortune teller tantilizing you with your fate.  An old woman in a black shawl knitting a funeral shroud.  A naked child covered in ashes, weeping soundlessly.  A still and empty room.

Domain: Death <physical>, destruction, endings, murder, decay

Titles: The quiet one.  The mourning queen.  The shadow beyond the veil.

Island: Quietus was a rock surrounded by still waters.  It was neither warm nor cold.  Neither bright nor dim. Neither wet nor dry.  All was enveloped in silence and still contemplation.  What trees grew amid the cut basalt stones were gnarled and leafless.  Yet for all its stillness, a whispering perpetuated on the edge of awareness.  Cracks ran in fractal patterns of tantalizing order; never simply breaking.  The detritus of creation littered the island; things broken and unmade and discarded.  Books lay in scattered heaps; their meaning forgotten or never created.  And on every surface were names.  Names of those born and yet to be born, and all things that were to die.

Origin: The old universe was dead.  The final name spoken.  The final writ made.  The last decree spoken.  She reached out her hand and gently stole the light and warmth of the sun.  Her breath scattered its ashes.  Then her other hand reached out to caress the moon, and it crumbled in her grasp.  And one by one she gazed at the distant stars and they too became dark. And she looked at creation and gave a great sigh, and all that remain was dust and broken and scattered.  And so she blew the old creation away, and stepped aside as a new creation was born.  And so she watched and waited for that which would inevitably be removed.

Temperament: It is said that she never smiles for at all times she feels the death of every mortal.  For this reason she can not glorify the death and destruction she is forced to met out to creation.  She weeps and smiles while weeping.  She walks in pain and loneliness.

Clergy: The silent ones do not met out death. They wait, for death comes to all, and when it does they take the bodies and carefully prepare them according to the wishes of their loved ones.  They comfort the sick and the weak, reminding them that death comes kindly or poorly.  They give succor to those who despair, and clean passings to those who can not bear the burden of life.  And they comfort the souls that can not return to the cycle of rebirth.  And, it is whispered, occasional help remove those whose time has come and gone.

Symbols: Empty rooms.  Knives.  Nooses.  Headstones.

Backstory: Apart from undoing the last creation... and the one before that... and before that... and before that...

Family Tree: Sombriel has only ever had one child.  The pain of its passing was so acute she could never bear to have another.

[Meany]

E; consult with Tech.  My spidey-senses tell me such developments would be under Zaltan's purview.

Ashen; Consult with Tezkat, he's usually on the IRC.  I want a clear seperation of what is the physical and spiritual act of dying before I accept this.  It is good, but that one detail needs to be quite clear.

[VAE]

This is interesting.... especially given the ghost domain.
Ghosts are those who wander the earth even though they shouldn't ... in defiance of the order imposed by me and Tez - one carrying the souls off, other keeping them until they are fit again to be born, and as such represent a different, constructive and orderly aspect of death as opposed to the destructive and unrestrictive one that seems to be Sombriel and her clergy.
The mention of "souls that can't return to the cycle of rebirth" ... it might even be that she has her own "place" for these, separate from mine... after all there were variant afterlives in quite a lot of religions.. it might be so in this universe too

Oh well, it might be that i am reading into it wrongly.

Also, i feel that the profile lacks  this smiley 

[Tezkat]

Hmm...

Tezkatl oversees the crossing of boundaries, both physical and symbolic. While life to death is certainly a very important transition, I'm willing to be more specific and say that, in this case, the important crossing is not from the state of living to the state of death per se, but from the realm of the living to the realm of the dead. Given that Ashen also wishes to include ghosts in her portfolio, and we established that the dead in this world are lost souls until the Soulbearer collects them, I see it working thusly:

Consider Greek mythology. Thanatos is the god of death. Without him, no mortals can die. Hades is the god of the dead. He rules the realm of the afterlife. Hermes collects souls from the mortal realm, and Charon ferries them across the river to the underworld. In our cosmology, Sombriel would be Thanatos, Horiv would be Hades, and Tezkatl fills in for both Hermes and Charon.

In effect, the act of dying itself and the souls waiting for collection could be Sombriel's domain. The bodies returned to the earth and the souls returned to the afterlife belong to Horiv. Tezkatl oversees the transition, and he might be a more recognizable face of death, being the one mortals see once their time has come to pass beyond.

Since gods are powered by mortal worship, perhaps the most important thing to work out is how our three gods factor into their death rituals. You don't usually thank death for taking your loved ones from you (although you may entreat her not to take them before their time, or at the very least ensure that the passage is painless), but you do pay tribute for their safe passage to the next life and pray for their speedy return to this world. Prayers to Sombriel would probably come before death, and prayers to Tezkatl and Horiv after the fact. So long as it's understood that I get my cut for the transportation expenses, I'm happy.

Besides, I'm apparently the new god of the sky until y'all get off your butts and make us a new sun. I could use a little less on my plate.

On the other hand, the appearance of this new deity does potentially throw a bit of a wrench in my plans for Ariel's subplot as missionary to the lost souls...

[Meany]

Ashen Star; Accepted on one condition.  Please remove Ghosts from your domain list?  In this continuity, the undead are supposed to be unnatural, and so not possessing of a divine patron.

On another note, this would make the third deity with mirrors as one of their symbols.

[VAE]

This time i might contradict... in DnD undead are unnatural too yet there are deities with them in their domain.

Unnatural mainly means that the gods that have to do with nature shun their existence...

[AmberCross]

Tez, just cause you are god of sky doesn't make you ONLY god of sky ;P

As for the goddess of death... yay neighbors! Fractals... the metaphysical cycle of creation and destruction is not so different from chaos and order after all ^.^ (I promise not to steal your spots!)

[Ashen Star]

Corrections made.  Ghosts removed.  Decay added.  I'd add entropy, but I just know some mage player would argue that it trespasses on luck, despite the fact that entropy has nothing to do with probability.

Sombriel as Thanatos is accurate as well.  She is a goddess of endings, not a caretaker of spirits.  In truth, she really doesn't care what happens to spirits since eventually they too will be destroyed.  In essence, she unmakes things; death of the living is just the most impactful to mortals.  Eventually all things break down or fail and it is her job to remove them so that new creation can be made.  Sombriel is also invoked by people hoping to bring about radical change; ending the old to replace the new.  Of course, Sombriel makes no guarantees that that will be better.

[VAE]

Oh, entropy has everything to do with probability.
As far as the old lynxy me knows, entropy is defined as kb ln O where O is the number of possible states the system can be in (kb is boltzmann's constant)
Given that the probability of an event is related to how many out of the possible states have it as an outcome out of the total... there is a definite relationship i see.


Also, good news she doesn't care about spirits... certain selfimportant sea god is already enough foes  for me


Revolutionaries? Actually... them worshipping the goddess of death would sortta explain some real revolutions as well
*is intrigued*

[Meany]

Ashen Star, Accepted.

[AmberCross]

Heh, we have domain infringment all over the place anyway. Two sky gods, three gods related to death, chaos infringes on destruction and luck also. We have an earth god and a magma/volcano god, a god of kindness and one of devotion, one more infringement is hardly going to be noticed. As long as the primary aspect is different, we tend not to make too big a deal of it.

[VAE]

Indeed... we are the socialist heaven, with full employment and 5 gods for every 1-god task.
*carries the red flag proudly*

[AmberCross]

So wait... wouldn't putting the new bit of sun inside the corrupting influence of the anchor be... bad?

[VAE]

Perhaps....  i have my own bit so  it's really inconsequential.

[Arcalane]

So wait... wouldn't putting the new bit of sun inside the corrupting influence of the anchor be... bad?

It only corrupts mortals*, and only then due to the sheer power it radiates.

In this case some of the power would be absorbed by the shard/egg/thing, like an incubator, since the shard/egg/thing is a product of deific design that is explicitly non-mortal.

*Yes, that means the Overseer is several centuries old.

The corruptive effect is actually a sort of relic of Tharsus' original design - a "necessary evil". He held/holds several of the domains of cliche'd "evil" gods, but generally wasn't that bad of a guy (apart from the whole 'corrupting mortals and turning them into mindless soldiers') so it was better to keep him around in order to keep the domains out of the less scrupulous/those more inclined to cause havoc for havoc's sake and generally wreck everybody's sandcastles.

I figured it was a neat way of conveying how much the Anchor(s) mean on the general scale of things. They're comparable to the Dungeon Heart from Dungeon Keeper, or your Temple in Black & White: without at least one, Tharsus is basically powerless/essentially dead. But as long as at least one remains intact - or functional at the very least - he is indestructible. The tradeoff for that is his inability to do anything significant miracle-wise outside the influence of an Anchor or one of his own Obsidian Monoliths besides whack things with his BFS. Which is something he's pretty good at, mind you.

[Tezkat]

Ashen, could you please clarify the context for your post? A few of us are confused as to how to respond. Sun's body was cremated and transformed into eggs several posts prior, and it kinda looks like you decided to retcon the ceremony and have Sombriel waltz in to hack at the corpse in front of her loved ones...


In other news, as these events mark a rather important change in my deity's role, I've updated his profile. I also wrote up the episode in legend format for you to enjoy.

[Ashen Star]

As I understood it, the sun was a dying ball of energy like a broken mirror, with the corpse of the slain sun god within.  Parts were taken off and removed to create the glowing eggs of energy.  The majority of the power has been salvaged in your eggs.   She disposed off the rest, so now there is no sun corpse.   There is just a big empty space where the sun used to be and now everything is dark, save for star light.  So, if you're going to replace the sun, now is the time.  There is no corpse left to "fix" or "resurrect."  You cremated the body, I scattered the ashes.