Deification (OOC) (Mature)

[SquirrelWizard]

yeah we kinda need gods of other venues...

like PIE!!!

You could be the glorious pastery god!

[Arcalane]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

Admittedly we have an NPC war deity already, and Tharsus is shaping up to be the most warlike of the others so far.

[KarlOmega1]

Hmmm...do we have a god of Lightning, wind or thunder?...or maybe beasts or demons?

[Previewer]

Hmmm...do we have a god of Lightning, wind or thunder?...or maybe beasts or demons?

The following is a list of players and gods whose domains may include the aforementioned things.

AmberCross (Aellor) - Weather(particularly storms)

• lightning, wind and thunder

Techcubi (Kuntorus) - The Hunt, Wilderness

• beasts

Dr. Hatari (Gys) - Life

• beasts

[AmberCross]

Aellor is primarily about Chaos and Order and the transitions between them. Weather and storms is how he tends to manifest his chaotic side. So while weather in general would skirt close, a god of lightning would be far enough away to not matter. Heck, you might even manage to branch out into energy in general. Only person anywhere near that is I think Arcalane with his domain of fire. I mean yeah Horiv does the geothermal thing, and I suppose Kumbha gets hydropower, while solar energy goes to the (somewhat dead) sun... actually I'm starting to see problems here too . Still, lightning is definitely open in that specific form and you can probably branch out a bit from there. It's looking a bit limited though.

And I can't speak for the others, but my impression is that if you find someone whose domain is a wide bucket thing, and you only border on a part of that, you might be okay.

Finally I should also mention that definitively open spots includes festivals/song and plant stuff.

[Arcalane]

Plants probably fall under Gys' umbrella as well. Life is pretty vague after all.

[Dr. Hatari]

Granted, Life is very vague. I was worried about portfolio overlap from the start - doubly so when I realized there were both Wilderness and Forest deities already. The interpretation I had been running with was life as a separate and distinct force, intrinsic in all beings. The quality of animation and vitality itself; death's contrast.

You know, like that green glowing energy-stuff when you touch a health pack in video games.  

While Gys' aesthetic is beast-heavy, it was intended to be a secondary domain. Just a bit more tangible expression of the primary. Creatures, species, cultures, or whole plant/animal kingdoms I specifically wanted to leave open to any interested specialist or themed deities.

[SquirrelWizard]

A thing to remember is that you can manipulate stuff that is outside of your portfolio. But, remember that a portfolio is a specialization. It represents a strength within a specific realm of power.

An example of specialist vs dabbler.

Masota, a diety of luck creates, a giant storm to maroon a group of people. She can create a storm that fits her needs, but it requires quite a bit of power on her part, and only affects the local area. with a similar amount of power, a dedicated Diety who has storms as part of their portfolio can make the storm of the same strength but affecting a larger area, a stronger storm that affects a similar area, or a combination of the two.

Both can make storms, but the diety with the portfolio/specialization does it more efficently.

[KarlOmega1]

*sigh*...I really don't want to abandon my character's current profile...you sure we can't have three gods of balance?

[Meany]

Get it worked out with the other gods of balance and sure, you can.  Having a trinity is actually more efficient, as it lessens the possibility of a stalemate.

However, if you cannot get the current players overseeing Balance right now to agree, you'll have to find a new concept.  True, we have a God of war, but seeing a God of peace would be nice too.  Or you could take on the persona of an NPG-non player god, if you could make a case for it.  Present NPGs are War, Hope, the four seasons-Autumn, Summer, Spring, Winter-Vengeance, just to name a few.

All things to consider.

[VAE]

 I'll add to it - there's always a possibility of a minor domain squabble... the overlaps sometime happen that way too -eg. in greek mythology.
After all, noone has said the remaining gods love each other too much... in fact so far, the opposite was the case.

[Corgatha Taldorthar]

I'm sorry to say, this RP has gotten too big and wild for me. Combined with some RL issues, I'm going to have to bow out. It'd probably be best for the Bronze King to simply kill Jerrel.

[Meany]

Aww.  Okay, I'm sorry you have to go.  I understand, and sympathize with you, getting some issues of my own to see to.  Hope you get through okay!

[AmberCross]

Never said there can't be 3 gods of balance, just that you should be aware there's competition ^.^

Something that might help though is saying what kind of balance. Or how that balance applies. I get the impression you're balancing humans and furs at the moment which doesn't seem that impressive, especially since the make up is 1/2 human and 1/2 mix of crazy lot of things. Aka, 1/4 canine and 1/3 feline or some odd such. Way I've always seen that go is that the various species tend to band up and self divide themselves. In order for that makeup to work, the furs would have to be drastically different from humans. Something like what Fire Emblem: Dawn Brigade did with the Laguz vs. the Beorc. Again, just the impression I'm getting so far. Either way, can you maybe go into a bit more detail about what you're thinking with this?

[Tezkat]

I'll add to it - there's always a possibility of a minor domain squabble... the overlaps sometime happen that way too -eg. in greek mythology.
After all, noone has said the remaining gods love each other too much... in fact so far, the opposite was the case.

Mah spotz! Always stealin mah spotz!!!


Ahem...

What's important in cases of overlap is that there be some clear delineation of domains and duties. For instance, it seems quite reasonable to have both a god of fire and god(s) of the hearth or the forge, because a hearths and forges represent specific fires with particular meaning to mortals. So while the aforementioned fire god would have dominion fire in general and wild flames in particular, responsibility for specific fires tamed by mortals would fall to the others.


Tezkatl is the god of boundaries, both physical and spiritual. He's the divine representation of the area between A and B, and he watches over the threshold. A gatekeeper, if you will. He's not interested in balancing A or B themselves, merely providing safe passage if your paperwork is in order. He's not even the god of change, per se, so much as the often arbitrary markers that define when one thing becomes another. For instance, Gys governs the process of growth, but Tezkatl oversees the day when a boy becomes a man. Likewise, Sombriel governs the act of dying, but Tezkatl collects the soul and brings it to the afterlife. And so on.

All of his other domains stem from that. For instance, Tezkatl's personal kingdom is the realm of dreams, which in his cosmology represents the borderland between the realms of gods and mortals, where the symbolism and metaphor that characterize divine existence intersect with mortal perceptions of reality. His position as messenger god is a natural outgrowth of his dominion over the borders a message must cross to travel from one person to another.

Even his mastery of the night (and later the heavens due to the untimely death of his partner), arguably his most important domain, began thusly. He's the one who tucked the sun in at night and watched over the world while she slept. His body itself (the night sky) simply grew to fill the gap between days. It evolved into something much more significant as nighttime became important to mortals and time itself required him settle into a balance with his consort. (Kids are so demanding, eh? )


So... Tezkatl isn't really a god of balance, at least not intentionally. However, depending on how KarlOmega1 interprets his god's mandate, there could be some stepping on toes. For example, the literal balance between light and dark, at least in terms of celestial illumination, defines Tezkatl's most significant domain. As for metaphorical light and dark (i.e. good and evil)... honestly, the laws of man are more Jerrel's domain. And if he does indeed get himself killed soon, there will be an opening there.

Domain: Karaius' domain is that of balance between Light and Dark, the elements,  and the virtues and sins of the people (mortals, angels and demons)...in all, he is considered a god that judges and enforces the balance of the world.

Something that might help though is saying what kind of balance. Or how that balance applies.

Yeah... that description does seem rather vague and abstract, not really explaining what it is your god does. Do you drive people to murder when the world's evil quota gets to low?

More specifically, what balance(s) in particular are you trying to maintain, and how do you go about enforcing it? The latter could provide plenty of opportunities to step on other gods' toes, especially with a broad mandate backed by unwavering commitment. (Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but it would be a guaranteed source of drama. )


Not incidentally, the world is pretty out of balance at the moment, what with the Big Bad's campaign of genocide and deicide causing the place to wither away.


There are a couple of other things to note...

We do not (yet) have angels or demons in our cosmology. For the most part, our gods communicate directly with mortal followers. Your god would probably have to create angels and demons on his own.

After death, mortal souls are recycled and returned as newborns after spending some time in the underworld. There isn't much of a post-death judgement process in place. I don't think any of our religions currently preach rewards in the next life for good behaviour.

Although there's no reason you can't have beastmen as followers, this world is not inherently furry. All of the anthropomorphics so far are divine pet projects. (Kuntoros has his wolf-men, Gys has his menagerie, Horiv has... um... treecats, and Tez's priests are essentially werebeasts.) Unless Meany's had a change of heart, few of our "enhanced" followers would have survived the purge on the mainland.




In other news... I'm dealing with some kinda heavy RL stuff at the moment. It might be a while before I manage to get a proper post written.

For those of you waiting on a response from me...

Assume that anyone who wants to adopt one of Tez's kids has permission. Only one egg per customer, though.

I'm also considering leasing out spot space for any gods who would like their own constellation. It seems reasonable in this setting that the gods would be represented in the heavens. The nebula won't completely obscure the constellations of active deities (and may even serve to cover scars left in the cosmos by fallen gods).

[Arcalane]

There are a couple of other things to note...

We do not (yet) have angels or demons in our cosmology. For the most part, our gods communicate directly with mortal followers. Your god would probably have to create angels and demons on his own.

Although there's no reason you can't have beastmen as followers, this world is not inherently furry. All of the anthropomorphics so far are divine pet projects. (Kuntoros has his wolf-men, Gys has his menagerie, Horiv has... um... treecats, and Tez's priests are essentially werebeasts.) Unless Meany's had a change of heart, few of our "enhanced" followers would have survived the purge on the mainland.

Tharsus' minions are about as close as we have to anything supernatural in that fashion I think, and they are certainly not his domain. Mortals, if they had a concept for demons, would definitely brand them as demons though; glassy/ashen horrors that were clearly once living - either in nature or in design - but are now servants of a higher power.

[AmberCross]

As Tezkatl marks the barrier across domains, Aellor is the cycle of creation and destruction. Not directly, but in its metaphorical sense as the world becomes more or less systematic. It was he that marked the creation of the cosmos as if fell into order and when the world arose from chaos. It was the fall of the previous order of gods that gave him the power to survive a direct blow from the Betrayer King and the recreation of that order (limited though it may be) on the islands that allowed him to pull himself together. He is order, chaos, and the transition between those two states as well as the balance between them. He exists in the perfect order of a solar system and the chaos of a raging storm, but he thrives most in the moment of change. When a star first ignites itself off of internal fires, when a tornado touches upon the ground, when the sun breaks through the clouds to mark the storm's end, when that same star reaches the end of its life and falls into supernova... these are the moments when he is at his strongest. (You know, all that propaganda bull.)

Anyway, Tez and I currently overlap on this particular boundary as well with our constant squabble about the stars and stuff. Not sure about him, but the way I see it... we both claim the cosmos as our playground, but it's one of those things that is so vast it really can't actually be claimed by one entity. I imagine the cosmos as a giant maze, one of the most awesome playgrounds ever. It's a bit complex and confusing to most, but Tez and I have been playing around here since forever and know most of the ins and outs of it. We both can apply our influence just about anywhere, but we also have places that are our own haunts that we hang out and have more influence (know the area better) over. The cosmos is certainly big enough for us to both have empires there after all. Anyway, there's really nothing stopping other gods from coming here except the rather confusing nature of the place (and of course either of us if we decided to try stopping them) so they're welcome to come and have spots of their own. It's just that their zones of control/familiarity aren't really as widespread or anything as that of Tez or I.

But of course none of that is directly relevant to you. I imagine if you choose a particular balance and stick with it, you could probably end up with a similar arrangement Tez and I do in regards to the chaos/order boundary and balance. Just make sure to double check.

[Tezkat]

Heh. It's worth remembering that the cosmology of this universe is inherently old world geocentric. Pretty much everything beyond the bounds of earth is governed by the subjective reality of the gods. The laws of physics rarely matter. The sky (or, more specifically, the heavens) is Tezkatl's body as seen from earth. Stars are merely spots on his coat, and the new nebula glows where the sun's funeral pyre scorched his fur. Aellor might see himself as playing in a vast cosmic maze, but as far as I'm concerned, he's just trying to paint my spots.

[KarlOmega1]

Karaius could have created angels and demons...if that's okay with meany. as for the balance thing...I really cant be specific, but he's mostly a God of judgement. You've said that the souls of mortals are recycled as newborns? What about said judgement is what they'll be reborn as after weighing the virtues and sins agains each other to see if they get reborn as a mortal again, an angel, or a demon?

[Meany]

Feel free to create new races.  However, I -will- take it out of your hide.   Also, don't forget reincarnation as animals.  Animal souls have to go somewhere.

[e_voyager]

i find that i like this game more and more now if only i could figure out how to work  better with my fellow gods .

[Meany]

Ze postingz will be happeningz when I wakingz in ze morningz.

[KarlOmega1]

Feel free to create new races.  However, I -will- take it out of your hide.   Also, don't forget reincarnation as animals.  Animal souls have to go somewhere.

I have to remember that.
and yes..animal souls do have to go somewhere.

[Arcalane]

That is all.

Ed: brb inventing magitech guns.

[Arcalane]

I'm starting to think "Rambling About Vaguely Important Things Until The Thread Dies" should be part of Tharsus' domains.

Maybe we're due another GM post to grease the wheels?

[e_voyager]

who knows i don't want to overplay my role but i've been thinking about posting in main again just to keep Volare functional. say Gm did anyone in a felid related to Volare's domain pass away?

[VAE]

Argh! Am not dead! Just catching a short nap! (well, short in divine terms)

[e_voyager]

don't sweat it as the voyager i've slept away decades only to have to time travel back to avoid missing important events.

[Arcalane]

For reference the information I am giving out is pretty much straight from Meany by way of forum PMs, if anyone was wondering in regards to it's validity.

[Kafzeil]

Heh, well...I think I'm dropping out. Sorry guys.