PG...I think NOT!!!

[topher chee]

I have noticed in Abel's stories lately Amber has gone a bit over the PG rating, in comic #35 Devin says "the f***..."
and just recently page #38, Xander calls Devin "furrae's biggest cockmuncher"

now, Im not one to complain but whats going on?

[Manawolf]

Dude, I told you, Disclaimer page.  Fateen rated.  F-bomb has been dropped.  Why are you noticing just now?

[Paladin Sheppard]

Ahh Topher Abel's story is web MA Amber put up a warning at the begining...

[Manawolf]

MA?  JACK is rated MA (along with containing Drip).  This is PG-13.  As I said, the Disclaimer page.  That's why the button doesn't link directly to the next Abel comic.

[Paladin Sheppard]

Well if ya want to get technical its NC-14 which I consiter MA...

[Manawolf]

No, just...no, that's not MA.  Jack got MA for a good reason.  The Abel Comic merely pushes the NC-14 rating because we have yet to see any blood.

Edit:


The Fateen rating (I swear she used to flip you off).

Edit2: Oh wait, she does.

[Kasarn]

*double smack* Different countries, different systems

Just as a reference the Australian system is pretty much
C - Children
G - General (8+)
PG - Parental Guidance (12+ )
M - Mature (15+)
MA - Mature Adults Only (15+ only)
R - Restricted (18+ only)

Or something like that...

[Manawolf]

Then it would lie on M over there.

[Paladin Sheppard]

  I'm an Aussie so thats what I go with...

[Manawolf]

M, not MA.  You said MA.

[Paladin Sheppard]

Sorry that was ment to be for Kasarn's post.

[Amber Williams]

BTW Topher, you really should avoid posting in both forums if you want to get a point across.  It's tacky.

Anyways, http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_02.php if people have forgotten. 

[Manawolf]

Yeesh, we got 13 years old reading Jack, you think they shouldn't be allowed to read the Abel comic?  It's funny till they join the forum begging for porn, then it gets sad, then funny all over again.

[Paladin Sheppard]

Her Mabness has spoken and so the matter is closed...

[Tiger_T]

Yeesh, we got 13 years old reading Jack, you think they shouldn't be allowed to read the Abel comic?  It's funny till they join the forum begging for porn, then it gets sad, then funny all over again.

I think they shouldn't be allowed to read Jack either.
What they'll do in the end is their problem.
By telling them not to read it, Amber just tries to avoid later complaints.

[RJ]

In the future computers will become Super-Nannies and hit 13 year-olds whenever they attempt to look up anything smutty (and then send them to the naughty corner).

[xHaZxMaTx]

That will be a dark day for anyone 17 or under.

[Gabi]

We have things rated for certain ages here too (no letter codes, but we have movies and other things for people over 13, 14, 16, 18 and 21). Though people swear in TV shows and movies regardless of their rating.

I think the things with content that may be found offensive should contain a warning about what it has, and then the viewer/reader should decide whether s/he still wants to see/read it or not. Except in the case of little children who don't know how impressionable they are until they find out the hard way, but I think most people above 10 years old should be capable of determining what they can deal with and what they'd rather avoid.

[insanekaosx]

We have things rated for certain ages here too (no letter codes, but we have movies and other things for people over 13, 14, 16, 18 and 21). Though people swear in TV shows and movies regardless of their rating.

I think the things with content that may be found offensive should contain a warning about what it has, and then the viewer/reader should decide whether s/he still wants to see/read it or not. Except in the case of little children who don't know how impressionable they are until they find out the hard way, but I think most people above 10 years old should be capable of determining what they can deal with and what they'd rather avoid.

You obviously do not spend any time around kids in the 11-13 age group. 14/15 and up I could agree with you there, but not really 10 in many cases

[Gabi]

Well, I don't spend much time with them now, but I spent a lot of time with them when I was that age.

Then again, I was never an 'average kid', so you may be right. Between 10 and 15 it could be up to the parents to decide. After all, they're supposed to know their children.

[Damaris]

I do think it's sad how little parental involvement people really want to have now-adays.  The number of kids you see going to movies that are just too scary (or inappropriate) for them is pathetic.

[Rowne]

This might be a bit controversial and forgive me if it is but ... why does swearing even matter?

I admit that I had an incredibly poor and uninvolved upbringing, I was exposed to things that most kids of an incredibly young, tender and impressionable age usually aren't.  I don't cuss my head off, why?  Most of the time it's just an action used to insult people, which is the bastion of the bumbling idiot (hello Devon & co!).

The thing is, words have meanings that have been completely distorted over time, give it 300 years and someone will find a dirty use for the word armchair and then armchair is going to be the 'cool' insult word for kids possessed of grandiose potty-mouth.

To be honest, from my own personal experiences, I think the only way to raise a child to actually use swearing regularly or to use it as an insult is to actively parent but to be parents worse even than mine were, the kind of parent who'd teach children from a very young age that yes, swearing is bad and that yes, people should do it at every oppurtunity.

If kids don't get the gist that it's so "naughty" or rebelling against the system, they likely won't do it.  Most kids cuss for attention anyway, so that's just how it goes.

I wouldn't think that kids reading Abel's Story would be a big deal, personally.  What I would think is a big deal is giving false importance to particular words.  If a kid reads a bunch of words with no specific importance then they're none the wiser.  Even if they do use it once or twice, they'll get bored of it.

As I said, I grew up with absolutely no parental supervision whatsoever, I picked up some of the foulest stuff under the sun and I simply don't use it most of the time, even as a kid I didn't.  They were just words.

I know Amber had to give the story a NC-14 rating to protect herself legally but still, even without it I can't see why people spaz over words.  It just makes no sense to me.

After all, if I ever have a kid, I swear I'm going to teach him to say "Douche" and "Read a damn dictionary!"

----

I'm sorry if I came on a little strong there but I think Amber getting burned over a couple of words, even after posting an NC-14 rating, was completely and utterly absurd.

I mean, if she'd chosen to retell Nazi Germany in the most horrid way possible or had a very complicated sex scene involving things people didn't normally do in sex, I'd understand.  That would put a parent in a very complicated and awkward position to try to explain that.  I wouldn't make the fuss that most people do but hey ...

Anyway, I can't get over the fuss that most people make over a word, especially when kids TV in most countries is violent enough to give them nightmares by default.

[Aridas]

I just had a thought that while BEFORE it might've been bad to swear, the words these days have very little meaning because of their overuse. The F-word, for instance. It means everything now. I've even heard a few people in high school who can't go two words without sticking another variation of the F-word into the sentence. It's gotten to the point where they're just words now, and using them in a particularly dirty way ends up being just like any other regular word with a double meaning. It kind of ends up going both ways.

[Eibborn]

*Snip*
Anyways, http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_02.php if people have forgotten. 

OMG I CAN'T READ THAT ITS SIX PARAGRAPHS OF SOLID TEXT!!!11 OMG MY DELICATE SENSIBILITIES!!!

[Nikki]

why are you people making this such a big deal? jeeze...you were warned on the disclaimer page...if you didn't read it,...too bad for you 

[Lucheek]

I'm 13 and I read Jack. I really don't think age has much anything to do with it, but maturity and the personal child. If that kind of thing upsets them- then no. It really shouldn't matter all that much.

And, like others, said: There is a disclaimer page, and the cursing (really) is mild if an offense at all.

[Nikki]

 

[Vidar]

However, the use of the F-word doesn't exactly convey any sense of dignity, respect, intelligence, decency, taste, or manners.

The fact that we are so desensitised to the F-word (and other like it)  just means that it's being used too often.

*Snip*
Anyways, http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_02.php if people have forgotten. 

OMG I CAN'T READ THAT ITS SIX PARAGRAPHS OF SOLID TEXT!!!11 OMG MY DELICATE SENSIBILITIES!!!

You assault the forums and all our eyes with 2 consecutive sentences in all caps, both of which you ended in multiple exclamation points, and started off with *cough* 'OMG', and you, sir, still claim to have 'delicate sensibilities'?  <\pedantic superior prattle> 

[KarlOmega1]

Ok people....Lock and drop!

[Nikki]