Galava

[Ganurath]

Bought from both of you. By the way... there seems to be a bug that lets you send more than one foreign aid offer a week to the same person.

Not sure how it works, but I know that Laytper was able to send me another batch while his first one was still in transit.

Our little secret? Also, take the progression so I can test my hypothesis and potentially get another gamey little trick.

Edit: Hypothesis proven invalid, university research point exploit not available.

[Tezkat]

Hmm... what were you trying?

When you drop below the prerequisite progression for a discovery/research/etc., you get to keep all your old tech but don't get any new ones when you cross the threshold a second time.


Does the foreign aid exploit work? I accepted your offer...

[Ganurath]

When you drop below the prerequisite progression for a discovery/research/etc., you get to keep all your old tech but don't get any new ones when you cross the threshold a second time.

That's what I was looking into.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Hey, send me some prog too http://galava.net/user?id=188

Do be do be do. ;-]

If this happens again next week, that'll be 6/week, yes? For me sending, I mean.

Edit:
Incidentally, the market cap is tied to progression as well. Anyone who has less than 20 progression points, I'd appreciate a few data points to put into the list - because I didn't realise this until after I'd reached there, and I kinda wanted to reach 25...

[Tezkat]

Hey, send me some prog too http://galava.net/user?id=188

Do be do be do. ;-]

If this happens again next week, that'll be 6/week, yes? For me sending, I mean.

You should be able to send unlimited outgoing aid packages. So it's in your best interest to find as many customers as possible.

Edit:
Incidentally, the market cap is tied to progression as well. Anyone who has less than 20 progression points, I'd appreciate a few data points to put into the list - because I didn't realise this until after I'd reached there, and I kinda wanted to reach 25...

Here's what I have for market cap data. I think Sandro may have changed the equations somewhere around when I hit 30 and 50. Also, I'm pretty sure some of it is off by a bit due to market offers expiring on me while I was prog jumping and such.


Progression - Moveable Resources

2 - 238
3 - 395
4 - 566
5 - 748
5 - 748
6 - 939
7 - 1139
8 - 1345
9 - 1559
10 - 1778
11 - 2003
12 - 2233
13 - 2468
14 - 2708
15 - 2952
16 - 3200
17 - 3452
18 - 3708
19 - 3967
20 - 4229
21 - 4495
22 - 4765
23 - 5037
24 - 5312
25 - 5590
26 - 5871
27 - 6155
28 - 6441
29 - 6730
30 - ?
31 - 7015
32 - 7311
33 - 7609
34 - 7910
35 - 8213
36 - 8518
37 - 8825
38 - 9135
39 - 9446
40 - 9759
41 - 10075
42 - 10392
43 - 10711
44 - 11032
45 - 11355
46 - 11680
47 - 12006
48 - 12334
49 - 12664
50 - ?
51 - 13629
52 - 13964
53 - 14300
54 - 14638
55 - 14978
56 - 15319
57 - 15662
58 - 16006
59 - 16352
60 - 16699
60 - 16699
61 - 17048
62 - 17398
63 - 17749
64 - 18102
65 - 18456
66 - 18812
67 - 19169
68 - 19527
69 - 19887
70 - 20248
71 - 20610
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91 - 28106
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95 - 29659
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107 - 34414
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109 - 35219
110 - 35624
111 -
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113 - 36842
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115 - 37659
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118 - 38891
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299 - ?
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526 - 251902
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535 - 257301
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552 - 267562
553 - 268168
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556 - 269987
557 - 270595
558 - 271202
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560 - 272418
561 - 273026
562 - 273634
563 - 274243
564 - 274852
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567 - 276681
568 - 277291
569 - 277901
570 - 278512
571 - 279123
572 - 279734
573 - 280345
574 - 280957
575 - 281569
576 - 282181
577 - 282794
578 - 283406
579 - 284020
580 - 284633
581 - 285246
582 - 285860
583 - 286474
584 - 287089
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586 - 288318
587 - 288933
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689 - 352999
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691 - 354281
692 - 354922
693 - 355563
694 - 356204
695 - 356846
696 - 357488
697 - 358130
698 - 358773
699 - ?
700 - 360058
701 - 360701
702 - 361344
703 - 361988
704 - 362632
705 - 363276
706 - 363920
707 - 364564
708 - 365209
709 - 365854
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794 - 421479
795 - 422142
796 - 422806
797 - 423470
798 - 424135
799 - 424799
800 - 425464
801 - ?
802 - 426759
803 - ?
804 - 428124
805 - 428790
806 - 429456
807 - 430122
808 - 430789
809 - 431455
810 - 432122
811 - 432789
812 - 433456
813 - 434123
814 - 434791
815 - 435459
816 - 436127
817 - ?
818 - 437463
819 - 438132
820 - 438801
821 - 439470
822 - 440139
823 - 440808
824 - 441478
825 - 442148
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827 - 443488
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843 - 454239
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851 - 459634
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855 - 462336
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860 - 465718
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863 - 467750
864 - 468427
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866 - 469783
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870 - 472497
871 - ?
872 - 473855
873 - ?
874 - 475214
875 - 475894
876 - 476574

There's a hard cap of 500k moveable resources, which you should hit somewhere around 910 progression.

Also, Sandro's going to rewrite the entire market system once he's doing fixing up our ability to pound each other senseless. So all this data will become obsolete.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Oh, sure. I mean, I'm at 25 and I get 5540, so your numbers are inaccurate there. Nonetheless...

.. where would I look to organise buyers for progression points?

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Heh.

I think land size - or trading capability - has some effect on market cap.

See, I built up to max roads at 188 land, took progression to 25, and had 5540. Added 75 land, maxed out structures, and low and behold, I have 5590 market cap.

We'll see if it increases when I bounce up land again.

[Tezkat]

No... it should be only progression that affects market cap.

Having active offers (either buying or selling) reduces your visible cap by the appropriate amount, of course.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

I'm just reporting what I see, not what should be.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Ganurath, and, indeed, anyone else...

.. I'm setting up a prog sale on the galava forum. If you're up for being part of it, I can send more than the 1 aid/wk, which will assist with sales, as it were.

If you want in, say here, and I'll get in contact with you and organise how we organise this, and manage the sales on the forum; either that or however we end up organising it.

Being the front man for a group of 2 or 3 small prog sellers wouldn't hurt my image, though. ;-]

Edit:
Put up a bunch of 7 wood @ 10k for progression sales; be appreciated if you don't just go and suck em all down. ;-]

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

I'm now at a point where I can pull up a second province.

Any suggestions from our illustrious leaders?

[Kasarn]

Just pick anything you feel like.

[Valynth]

food, food and more food.  That stuff's more precious than Columbian crack in Canada.  So I suggest getting a couple food-food provinces and then using the massive profits you get both from selling the food and HAVING the food, raise a massive army the likes of which cause the Galava servers to lag when someone checks them.

It's a end-game strategy that might just work.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Hmm. So something like Hills/Coastal?

I'd like a little variation, really. ;-]

Oh, well.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

I note wood is up to around 15pu, and stone is around 30pu.

This is a heck of a lot more than it was last week; I presume that either Sandro or someone else is messing with things...

In the mean time; Tez, I thought you said you had a huge pile of stone lying about?

[Kasarn]

The Workshop was reworked, meaning that everybody had to rebuy their stuff and, at 1000 * lvl, it's not cheap... at least, not when you've got 100+ things to buy. It'll probably go back down because, at the moment, it's a one time cost.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

ah. Explains muchly.

In other words, it's a short-term lunacy effect, and I should wait it out, rather than purchasing at the current prices. ;-]

* llearch n'n'daCorna shrugs

Peace mode anyway, so can cope with that. Out of interest, when does the third province kick in? I've been pondering making a food-stoner province, and then a food-wood one as the fourth... but at present, I don't see anything between 60 and 200 progression points.

Which means I should just grow like hell and see where we get to by the time I get there. And stockpile crap. ;-]

[Kasarn]

Well, it's only a one time cost at the moment because the war system isn't up; however, it will be done "Over the next couple of days" and then the situation will change again... (edit: and then Sandro is going to overhaul the Market and presumably attempt to balance the economy... woo beta)

Discovery	Requires	Description	Cost
New Military Unit	10	Allows the creation of a new military unit.	100
University	25	Provides ways to improve resource gathering.	100
Workshop	50	Provides siege units and defensive structures.	500
2nd Province	60	Allows the creation of a new province.	1,000
New Military Unit	200	Allows the creation of a new military unit.	10,000
Arcanus	200	Where your strongest minds channel thair magic powers.	50,000
3rd Province	300	Allows the creation of a new province.	25,000
Sanctum	400	Where valuable artifacts are held.	5,000
New Military Unit	600	Allows the creation of a new military unit.	500,000
4th Province	800	Allows the creation of a new province.	750,000
New Military Unit	1,200	Allows the creation of a new military unit.	1,000,000
5th Province	1,400	Allows the creation of a new province.	2,500,000

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Hmm. I get the idea that selling progression at 35k/level is only valid until you reach your third province or so. If that. ;-]

Thanks for that list, most useful.

[Tezkat]

35k per level is way too low. Progression starts to get expensive fairly quickly. I'm already at 6955 per point (market value: over 1.3 mil).

Here's a very rough estimate of what it costs to buy a point of progression at current market prices:

Progression - Market Cost in Gold

100 - 30k
200 - 100k
300 - 180k
400 - 260k
500 - 370k
600 - 480k
700 - 610k
800 - 740k
900 - 910k
1000 - 1.2 mil
1100 - 1.5 mil

Most of your customers will be very large empires that will even consider half a mil for two points a great deal. I'll buy some more from you guys in a bit. I just blew all my spare cash on troops and weapons.


In other news... the war system is finally online. Anyone wanna play?

I'm fairly sure we could get an MDoAP-level treaty out of the West Side Thug Unit, if you guys are interested. (fisherman even wrote up a sample treaty. It started: "We da thugs and da DMFA agree to stay off the others turf and help if you being hated on..." ) They've been somewhat reticent to sign anything more than a simple ODP up until this point, but that's mostly because they don't want to get involved with stupid wars their allies start. That's kinda how we were starting out, so we agreed on that point.

We would need to decide on a flag... and maybe a name. The latter would of course help with flag design. (For instance, "Deadly Muffins For All" or variants on that theme could feature a coat of arms with some kind of evil muffin of doom.  ) Or we could be lazy and use one of the old ones.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Interesting. The forum had sellers at 20k (Hix, now no longer selling), 35k, and 70k gold per point.

I presume you're looking at 30k for ~10k gold, ~130 food/stone/wood? At what rate for each are you calculating that? (since it behooves me to pay attention to how much it costs for me, and all. Noting that the market is currently _way_ different to normal, and that the workshop stuff has screwed stone out of all recognition, etc etc...)

[Tezkat]

I'm using Wood @ 15 PPU, Stone @ 25 PPU, Food @ 100 PPU, adding in the gold cost, and then just rounding to the nearest 10k gold or so. I'm also using my old data for progression prices sub-400, since I don't have the updated prices yet. It's obviously not super precise, especially with the market in such a state of flux, but it should give you the correct order of magnitude. Honestly, there isn't really a "normal" state for the market. Sandro makes significant game changes every couple of weeks that have a huge impact on the economy. I remember when food was selling for half the price of stone...

At one point, Laytper (the original high profile prog seller) was offering his points at two different prices (270k and 350k for 2 progression), depending on customers' ability/willingness to pay. A lot of the larger empires happily paid (even demanded to pay) the higher price, because it was still such a good deal for them. He had maybe 60 mil in the bank before switching over to the GOONS. Then more small empires got into the business and started undercutting him. The going rate dropped.

But people still bought from him. Once you have a customer base, many of them will stay with you as you grow, especially if you develop a reputation for reliable service and prompt delivery. You don't want to have to decide between growth and business. They'll understand changing prices to reflect the market situation and your own increasing costs. And having a smaller number of regular customers is much better than trying to fight all the newbies for prog trades.

Think of it this way. Since your cost of goods sold eats into your profits very quickly, you'll only be able to support 35k/level up to 100 or so progression. With smaller and smaller profit margins. Besides, which would you say is better: 1 regular customer at 200k profit, or 20 customers at 10k profit?

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Tough call, actually. :-/

I may put my prices up, though, since I went and looked up the actual prices and added some fields to my spreadsheet, and got something on the order of 15k current cost. Wood@10, stone@25, food@96, which was the prices on the market when I looked. Using your numbers makes it about 16k. Either way, it makes 35k downright miserly.

I'll mull it over, and look at bumping my prices to make it 70k/level. That makes me 50k profit, even with the costs.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Bah!

Tez, you cheat! You're supposed to buy the overpriced stuff! ;-]

[Tezkat]

You didn't have any overpriced stuff for sale... 

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

You didn't ask...

[Tezkat]

Heh. Since when is it my responsibility to see your empire get twinked out?

Anyways, I bought you out. I'm being attacked by a larger enemy, so I may donate my monies to worthier causes than the guy pillaging my villages.


I'd strongly recommend that anyone still in war mode queue up max military or go hippie. It's a free for all out there!

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

How much did you want me to set up?

*adds another two and a half million worth*

[Tezkat]

That's fine for now. Though it could be a good idea for everyone to put up a mil or three of offers incase I need to hide anymore monies.


Tezkat nominates llearch to be his new offshore guild bank.


Seriously, though... a lot of you war mode guys are on the seriously squishy side. I almost want to raid you myself.

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

k, I'll put up a set of 6 long-term 500k offers. And keep them there, for the moment.