28/05/08 [DMFA #908] - New job please?

[Psaakyrn]

I guess they are lucky that the bezerk giant is chasing something other than them... Also, for a doom castle/dungeon, it's rather sparse and sanitary. :o

[Aleolus]

Wow, one eye completely red, the other completely blue, there's something you don't see every day.

Also, are they making a D&D crack in the first panel?  I wonder...

[Jakon]

Heh, nice reference to D&D there. Every single player I know hates the upcoming Fourth Edition, even though they know diddlysquat about it.

[Victoire Épique]

Well. I knew she was big, but... wow. This should prove to be fun. 

Nya ha ha...

[Omega]

As far as I can tell, the 4th edition looks like it could be a good improvement compared to it's predecessors. From what I've heard, they put effort into the melee classes and the ability to play board game on line sure would help me and my friends play more often than we do now.
I'm still not gonna buy the damn thing. I don't have money even to donate the wallpaper wars, much less to some new book of an old system.


Anyway, a late update is better than no update at all. Skipping a Monday was just the right thing to do for Amber.

[Lorien]

Well, that seems a good solution for ya Amber. 

And I agree with our strange looking friend there... I like 3.5. 

[Psaakyrn]

You know what?

a) There's no reason to hate it. No one's forcing you to use 4th ed.
b) The books are just guides, no more, no less. The DM still has the option to bend the rules, and are in fact encouraged to do so.
c) The numbers are just an aid. The dice is just to ensure fairness. They exist only to assist in the core part of the game: the freedom of choice.

Unless you're going to fight it on a more philosophical point, which inherently ignores the content of book. (just as our dual-eyed guy is doing.)

[TheAuldGrump]

You know what?

a) There's no reason to hate it. No one's forcing you to use 4th ed.
b) The books are just guides, no more, no less. The DM still has the option to bend the rules, and are in fact encouraged to do so.
c) The numbers are just an aid. The dice is just to ensure fairness. They exist only to assist in the core part of the game: the freedom of choice.

Unless you're going to fight it on a more philosophical point, which inherently ignores the content of book. (just as our dual-eyed guy is doing.)

Actually, there are many reasons to hate it - but few are tied to the rules (at least for some people, I really have not liked what I have seen of them, but assume that this is my personal taste, not necessarily shared by all and sundry). A greater problem is how they are handling the turnover from 3.X to 4.0 - requiring the destruction and/or the covering of the D20 logo on D20 materials. Dropping Dragon and Dungeon magazines in favor of a (largely unsuccessful) Digital Initiative, more severe limitations in the GSL vs the older OGL, etc..

If you are not a lover of miniatures then there are rules reasons to dislike the turn of the new game, but given my vasty metal and plastic armies I cannot, in good conscience, cite that as a flaw. (Though none are from the random plastic horribly prepainted D&D minis....)

The Auld Grump

[Wanderer]

So... Aliyka crawls on a vicious rampage down the hallway that she's too big to fit in as Dan flees in terror.

[Turnsky]

You know what?

a) There's no reason to hate it. No one's forcing you to use 4th ed.
b) The books are just guides, no more, no less. The DM still has the option to bend the rules, and are in fact encouraged to do so.
c) The numbers are just an aid. The dice is just to ensure fairness. They exist only to assist in the core part of the game: the freedom of choice.

Unless you're going to fight it on a more philosophical point, which inherently ignores the content of book. (just as our dual-eyed guy is doing.)

Actually, there are many reasons to hate it - but few are tied to the rules (at least for some people, I really have not liked what I have seen of them, but assume that this is my personal taste, not necessarily shared by all and sundry). A greater problem is how they are handling the turnover from 3.X to 4.0 - requiring the destruction and/or the covering of the D20 logo on D20 materials. Dropping Dragon and Dungeon magazines in favor of a (largely unsuccessful) Digital Initiative, more severe limitations in the GSL vs the older OGL, etc..

If you are not a lover of miniatures then there are rules reasons to dislike the turn of the new game, but given my vasty metal and plastic armies I cannot, in good conscience, cite that as a flaw. (Though none are from the random plastic horribly prepainted D&D minis....)

The Auld Grump

"out out darn spot"

[Wanderer]

Oh, and Wanderer hates the idea of a new edition at all. I really don't know anything about what's in it, and I don't care, but 3.5 eliminated several things I liked about 3.0, so I have no doubt 4.0 will eliminate all sorts of things I still like in 3.5. Ergo, I hate it.

Besides, change is bad. Everyone knows this.

[Kasarn]

So, does giant monster Aliyka prefer squishies or voring?

(lol, macrofurs )

[MT Hazard]

Interesting, I have nothing useful to add to this, so here's something useless

You have encountered a dragon

Scenario one:
You charge straight at the dragon and stab it with a hugely powerful sword created by some forgotten god. Due to some dice rolling low the dragon yelps as if stung by a bee and and eats you, your party and a nearby village before eventually dying of food poisoning.

Scenario Two:
In a moment of madness you throw a small stone at the dragon. Due to some dice rolling high the dragon explodes into a million blood soaked pieces and rains down around you. Stinking of blood and sulphur you stagger out of the cave and throw up, you can wash but you'll never be clean. 

Feel free to add more Scenarios.

[Ren Gaulen]

So, does giant monster Aliyka prefer squishies or voring?

(lol, macrofurs )

She prefers rending and mauling - but I doubt that she is berserk enough to devour her victims after mutilating them.

Also, for some reason I love that "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee". I wonder who produces this sound?

Oh, and I have to agree with Graz's statement in the last panel. It is truly time to retreat hastily.

[Turnsky]

So, does giant monster Aliyka prefer squishies or voring?

(lol, macrofurs )

She prefers rending and mauling - but I doubt that she is berserk enough to devour her victims after mutilating them.

Also, for some reason I love that "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee". I wonder who produces this sound?

Oh, and I have to agree with Graz's statement in the last panel. It is truly time to retreat hastily.

well, dan now.. and on the wallpaper war, Abel will be, methinks.. at least singing castrato for a while. 

[Alondro]

*Charles reads*  Oh boy!  Looks like two job openings!  Does DP pay well?  I need higher pay.  My dad still needs a job too.   I wonder what benefits come with evil henchmanship. 

*Charline bah*  It's a flashback, twit.  The jobs are long gone.

*Charles remains poor*   

[Madmann135]

I find it funny how henchmen go with the bad guy whole heartly at first but when things get hairy (or in this case big, mad and rampaging) they look for the next assignment.
Now if all adventuring parties had their own version of Bruce Bannner then small scale henchmen would not be looking for jobs. 

This is also probably why DP hired a dragon last time.

[Raiettei]

I find it funny how henchmen go with the bad guy whole heartly at first but when things get hairy (or in this case big, mad and rampaging) they look for the next assignment.
Now if all adventuring parties had their own version of Bruce Bannner then small scale henchmen would not be looking for jobs. 

This is also probably why DP hired a dragon last time.

That's what he gets for hiring the lowest bidders...   

[Madmann135]

That's what he gets for hiring the lowest bidders...   

It is not about looking for the lowest bidders, it is about survival.  When bad guys make an apearance and plan on doing really, REALLY bad things the powerful and intimidating good guys show up and dispach the evil dooers.
*dawns a paladin armor and raises a broad sword over his head in a classic heroic manner, light shines off the armor and a glowing reflection is cast from the sword*

Intimidation is a powerful weapon, the threat of being torn to shreads is a powerful incentive to get the h#!! out of dodge.

They don't have the quality control of henchmen like they used to.  That's good for the adventurers.

[Raiettei]

That's what he gets for hiring the lowest bidders...   

It is not about looking for the lowest bidders, it is about survival.  When bad guys make an apearance and plan on doing really, REALLY bad things the powerful and intimidating good guys show up and dispach the evil dooers.
*dawns a paladin armor and raises a broad sword over his head in a classic heroic manner, light shines off the armor and a glowing reflection is cast from the sword*

Intimidation is a powerful weapon, the threat of being torn to shreads is a powerful incentive to get the h#!! out of dodge.

They don't have the quality control of henchmen like they used to.  That's good for the adventurers.

So... he hires them based on their powers and species? That makes a heckuva lot more sense to me than anything I've ever thought!

[Ren Gaulen]

Intimidation is a powerful weapon, the threat of being torn to shreads is a powerful incentive to get the h#!! out of dodge.

Paladins don't tear Evil to shreds, my friend. They Cleave and Smite Evil. With extreme prejudice. However, don't forget that some evil guys are quite intimidating and powerful themselves.

[AmigaDragon]

So... Aliyka crawls on a vicious rampage down the hallway that she's too big to fit in as Dan flees in terror.

In the previous strip she didn't seem quite that big. But then maybe she wasn't done growing.  Size vs speed was mentioned before, but in the discussion being "too big for the terrain" was left out. So even if she could otherwise easily catch them, the tight fit in the halls is slowing her down to where they can keep ahead better.

On the D&D side (does anyone bother to call it AD&D any more?), I've only played v2 and a v1/v2 blend. My brother said he liked v3. This thread is the first I've heard about v4, though the discussion in the strip did make me first think they were talking about it (or a Furrae equivalent).

[Aleolus]

So... Aliyka crawls on a vicious rampage down the hallway that she's too big to fit in as Dan flees in terror.

Perhaps she is like Hulk, where the madder she gets, the bigger and stronger she gets?

[PurpleCheeseLlama]

So... Aliyka crawls on a vicious rampage down the hallway that she's too big to fit in as Dan flees in terror.

Perhaps she is like Hulk, where the madder she gets, the bigger and stronger she gets?

Only being big is a bit of a problem at the moment.

"Arrrgh! Being too big to get through this hallway makes me so mad! *gets bigger* ...damn!"

And thus, anger management prevails.

[Titanium Dragon]

Well, its better than 3.5...

In other news, yay for getting comics on time again.

[Aleolus]

So... Aliyka crawls on a vicious rampage down the hallway that she's too big to fit in as Dan flees in terror.

Perhaps she is like Hulk, where the madder she gets, the bigger and stronger she gets?

Only being big is a bit of a problem at the moment.

"Arrrgh! Being too big to get through this hallway makes me so mad! *gets bigger* ...damn!"

And thus, anger management prevails.

Ah, but the bigger she gets, the longer reach she has, and so the less she actually has to move to grab them

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

Ah, but the bigger she gets, the longer reach she has, and so the less she actually has to move to grab them

Plus, if she gets big enough, the roof ceases to be a problem.

Not that I'm advocating this idea, of course.

[Slowtini]

...Kitty needs a BIIIIIG catnip mousey.

[GabrielsThoughts]

is it possible Alyka is part gryphon as well?

[KlaatuWolf]

Perhaps I'm the only one, but I seriously see Akyla (sp) yelling "STERN!" after she breaks down the door and is running down the hall.