Brotherhood of the Machine (OOC Thread) {03}

[shadowterm]

Thanks.

[Lisky]

right now it just kinda seems like it's me and Azlan posting back and forth... anyone wanna do an update on the other van(s) so we can get back to the rebel base?

[Ryudo Lee]

I will be out of town tomorrow and friday, traveling for work... again.  I will see about posting from the hotel room.

[shadowterm]

I got the impression that the vans were already underway. 

[Tapewolf]

I got the impression that the vans were already underway. 

Yes.  From my point of view, there's very little to do until we reach base, or some other event happens.

[Lisky]

soo, i guess were waiting on Ryudo then?

[Tapewolf]

soo, i guess were waiting on Ryudo then?

Looks that way.  I guess we'll have to see if he has 'net access from his hotel.

[Ryudo Lee]

Okay, this is a good time to bring in the next player.  We're gonna put this on hold until I can get a hold of him.

[Corgatha Taldorthar]

Aight, I'm going to be putting in my first IC post, please let me know if I violate any of the pre-established facts in the RP. (I've only skimmed, not carefully read every previous post, for obvious reasons)


EDIT. It's in. Feedback would be appreciated.

[Lisky]

well, i don't really know how i'm going to be any help under present circumstance, unless of course either exo hears from morgan to arm the prisoner, or i get my stuff back from dorcan...

[Tapewolf]

well, i don't really know how i'm going to be any help under present circumstance, unless of course either exo hears from morgan to arm the prisoner, or i get my stuff back from dorcan...

I'm a bit stuck for a response too.  Someone else is driving and Dorcan has little say in what happens until they get out.  Heck, he might even be asleep.

EDIT. It's in. Feedback would be appreciated.

Since no-one else has, here's mine:

There were a number of typos, but never mind those for now.  I also found it a little hard to follow, but it's probably one of those scenarios which makes more sense as things progress.  The only thing which really gave me pause was that it was difficult to know what race those involved were.  I had to go look up your character spec...

[Lisky]

actually, come to think of it, really, the only way i'll be any use here is if both exo allows it and Darkshine gets both his armor and weapons back, as just having a gun means he can shoot, but getting shot would mean injury resulting in long term treatment or death... the only way exo would give that order is if morgan would verify that darkshine is not a threat to the rebellion, since no matter what DS says, no one actually trusts him yet, besides morgan to some extent, as morgan knows more about DS than anyone else at present time... or for that matter, than anyone else who isn't psychic will ever probably know

as for Corgatha, i'm in agreement with Tape at the moment, i find the post a little disorienting, though that could be because i have no idea whats going on besides the fact that he's trapped in a prison convoy with rebel troops

[shadowterm]

When we move out to the convoy to get the prisoners, I call the van least likely to explode when they return fire. That or the one with the biggest gun.

[Corgatha Taldorthar]

as for Corgatha, i'm in agreement with Tape at the moment, i find the post a little disorienting, though that could be because i have no idea whats going on besides the fact that he's trapped in a prison convoy with rebel troops

It's intentional. (The typos are not, and shall be fixed) I'm trying to narrate through Fetrethar's perceptions, and since Fet doesn't himself have a clear idea of what is going on and is just waking up after being gassed into unconsciousness and not thinking too clearly (well, he could think all right by the end of the post), it's going to be a bit dark until I can get a few good posts in.

[Lisky]

... i hate to brake this to you shadow, but it seems to me that the guns are on the inside, that being the case, the heavy repeating plasma weapon exo is carrying seems to be the biggest gun...

as for least likely to explode... i think azzy's got that position as he's a few minutes behind everyone, though catching up, he's in a 30 ton armored ground effect vehicle... your in a probably 5-10 ton delivery van with hidden armor, at least thats how i'm picturing them at the moment based on what's been said about the vans...

That being said, i think the gameplan should be to use a van or something else to form a barricade in front of the convoy, and have people on foot, waiting with pre-determined arcs of responsibility...  if we've got some extra explosives, setting up a trap to take out the vehicle in or near the rear would then immobilize the entire convoy, forcing them into a fight, where we'd have the advantage of both cover, and concealment... actually, if azzy is still worried about the banshee being a bit too much, it would probably make the best barricade since it's larger, and heavier than any other vehicle we've got on hand... if need be, most of equipment not bolted down could fit into a few duffel bags, and stored in the vans... although darkshine would require some form of compensation if the banshee is destoryed, it's the best plan i can think of...

to corgatha: alrighty then... i'll trust you on that

[Azlan]

Bas has pretty much the same plan I would use.  It is pretty well tested, take out the lead vehicle and the rear vehicle of the column.  This traps them between wreckage... unless the core vehicles are tanks.

Our forces then attack from the sides, using cover and forcing them on our terms. 

Morgan will request DK be released and armed for this *ahem* bonus objective

[Corgatha Taldorthar]

as for Corgatha, i'm in agreement with Tape at the moment, i find the post a little disorienting, though that could be because i have no idea whats going on besides the fact that he's trapped in a prison convoy with rebel troops

I just wanted to note something. At least in the car/truck/tank whatever thing, I had intended for only the tribal people's from Fetrethar's general area to be present, not any rebel prisoners. There might be some elsewhere in the convoy. On a different note, would it be ok for one of the other vehicles to have the confiscated weapons? I really do want Fet to have the gloves (and the shield, which he'd need to survive hand to hand in a world where everyone has guns. But that's a practical matter. Aesthetically, I want Fetrethar to fight "tooth and nail" at least, with the appropriate enhancements.) I doubt the brotherhood would be stupid enough to keep the confiscated weapons in te same vehicle that they have the prisoners.


And just in general, the background story is really a simple one. The area that Fetrethar comes from feature several dozen tribes of a few hundred people each, in a poor, rugged area that few other people care about. They don't do things like pay taxes to the Brotherhood, and they occasionally raid across he ill defined borders to places that really matter and steal things. A punitive expidition was mounted, and a whole bunch of people (Like Fetrethar) were captured. Prisoners were taken to elicit information about the whereabouts of thngs like hideouts and weapon stockpiles in the area. Not that at the moment Fetrethar knows any of this stuff. All he knows at the moment is that hes in a car with some people from his own group and some more from a rival one.


Escape wise, Fetrethar wouldn't coordinate with you guys, not immediately anyway. He'd probably take advantage of any chaos caused by the rebels to get out of his current vehicle, try to find his weapons, kill off any Mongoose clan people he can, and escape. Of course, if he gets picked up by the rebels..........

[Azlan]

I just wanted to note something. At least in the car/truck/tank whatever thing, I had intended for only the tribal people's from Fetrethar's general area to be present, not any rebel prisoners. There might be some elsewhere in the convoy. On a different note, would it be ok for one of the other vehicles to have the confiscated weapons? I really do want Fet to have the gloves (and the shield, which he'd need to survive hand to hand in a world where everyone has guns. But that's a practical matter. Aesthetically, I want Fetrethar to fight "tooth and nail" at least, with the appropriate enhancements.) I doubt the brotherhood would be stupid enough to keep the confiscated weapons in te same vehicle that they have the prisoners.

Well, the positioning of the rebel prisoner is Ryudo's purview, not yours.

And just in general, the background story is really a simple one. The area that Fetrethar comes from feature several dozen tribes of a few hundred people each, in a poor, rugged area that few other people care about. They don't do things like pay taxes to the Brotherhood, and they occasionally raid across he ill defined borders to places that really matter and steal things. A punitive expidition was mounted, and a whole bunch of people (Like Fetrethar) were captured. Prisoners were taken to elicit information about the whereabouts of thngs like hideouts and weapon stockpiles in the area. Not that at the moment Fetrethar knows any of this stuff. All he knows at the moment is that hes in a car with some people from his own group and some more from a rival one.

I don't imagine that your character's lands are that close.  I always thought we sat in the middle of a stable developed nation like Britania rather than a place like Gazth-Sonika... or in real life terms, Europe as opposed to Egypt.

Escape wise, Fetrethar wouldn't coordinate with you guys, not immediately anyway. He'd probably take advantage of any chaos caused by the rebels to get out of his current vehicle, try to find his weapons, kill off any Mongoose clan people he can, and escape. Of course, if he gets picked up by the rebels..........

I'm really having trouble seeing any way he would ever coordinate with us, or ever join us... I really don't think this will work.

[Corgatha Taldorthar]

So I'll just say my piece and then leave............... Yeah, that makes sense.  Why don't we start planning out Fetrethar's funeral then?

[techmaster-glitch]

Of course this can work. We rescue Fet from the big bad 'Hoodies, as planned. Fet feels indebted/sympathetic towards people who are fighting his captors, and volunteers his skills. No problem.

[Azlan]

Of course this can work. We rescue Fet from the big bad 'Hoodies, as planned. Fet feels indebted/sympathetic towards people who are fighting his captors, and volunteers his skills. No problem.

I read his bio... I don't think he could feel indebted to anyone.  His personality seems more suited to a villain than one of the good guys, but perhaps I misread vindictive, devious... sly... no problems with mutilating fallen foes.  I also get the feeling that his taboo behavior is designed to cause discomfort and problems for other players, maybe I am wrong, but he doesn't seem like the party kind of guy.

[techmaster-glitch]

but he doesn't seem like the party kind of guy.

Neither is Jexx, but he's in the party

EDIT: Thinking it over, Fet can actually be in for the exact same reason as Jexx. Fet could hold a desire for revenge on these invaders who tore through his town and captured him and his people (perfectly in-character, if what you say is true), and decide that teaming up with the Rebels is the best way to get back at them. Classic Common Enemy logic and all that. He and Jexx might even get along

EDIT: In fact, your decription of Fet seems to match Jexx almost perfectly. Checklist:

Vindictive (desire (often unreasonable) for revenge): Oh yes, big check there.
Devious/Sly: hmm, maybe not that.
Mutilate foes: Oh f**k yes. Double check.
Overal personality suited for villian: I probably don't need to even guess how close you probably think Jexx comes to that

So, conclusion: I see no difference between my character and Corgatha's, and my character's in.

[shadowterm]

The thought of anyone and jex cooperating scares the shiat out of me.

[Azlan]

Neither is Jexx, but he's in the party

And you see how well that works between you and me >.>

With you, we have a true common enemy, and you have a redeemable quality.  He seems purposefully designed to cause strife with civilized characters who possess mercy, decency, and 'civilized' morals.  I do so enjoy those that can pull off the noble savage, but abhor the shit-slinging gorilla types.

EDIT: Thinking it over, Fet can actually be in for the exact same reason as Jexx. Fet could hold a desire for revenge on these invaders who tore through his town and captured him and his people (perfectly in-character, if what you say is true), and decide that teaming up with the Rebels is the best way to get back at them. Classic Common Enemy logic and all that. He and Jexx might even get along

That motivation does not seem strong enough, but if it works than so be it.

[Corgatha Taldorthar]

He's a savage, no bones about that, but he does understand a system of reward and punishment. He's definitely *not* the sort that you'd invite to a party. He's an attack dog, more or less, and he's not going to be happy at anyone who attacked him or his people. Furthermore, he's from a system where the boss's authority is unchallengable. He won't even speak without being spoken to to people higher up in the clan hierarchy. (I included that for a reason)  If you take him along, he'll likely disagree with  most of the things you say and do, and probably "forget" rules of engagement if he thinks he can get away with it, but he will listen to orders if you bark them loudly in his general direction, to the best of his ability anyway. Ultimately, he respects hierarchy and can be bullied into line. As you say, he is vindictive, he's going to want his revenge, and the rebellion offers him his best chance of getting it. He'd be willing to put up with an inconvienence or two if he has to.


Something I want to say OOC, semi-related to the point above. This one more deals with how to work with Fet. (Fet would never even think of saying this IC) Fet's a savage, a disgusting pervert, and probably mentally ill somewhere in there. Maybe you'd be able to convince him of some more moral way of life in the rebellion, but I don't think he'd be very persuadeable. He can, and probably should, be bullied into line. He's very, very aware of all the sorts of nasty things people can do to each other, and even a reprimand from someone in charge is likely to make him *extremely* uncomfortable.  He's coercible.

As for the problems he's likely to cause. *tries to articulate this better than he did in the Bio* As said above, he has a very deeply imprinted respect for authority. He'll obey an overlord he neither likes nor respects, and he'll carry out orders to the letter. He won't knowingly betray his companions once he's let in, or do anything that would hamper the activity of the group as a group.  He can be very professional, but he's more likely to cause trouble when he's off duty or when the welfare of the group isn't directly at stake.

He has two major problem areas, at least the way I envision the character, again, apologies if this was not communicated clearly. He feels a need to get even with people who slighted him, but it's a "prove yourself superior" kind of get even, not a "go psycho and kill everyone". If he's and the other person are both "in" the group, he'd almost certainly stick to trying to humiliate or prove himself better than whomever he bears a grudge against. He'd *never* do something to incipacitate someone from whatever their role in the group was unless physically attacked.
The other major problem area is likely to be his barbarism, excacerbated by his view that most of these things would be "personal" matters. To his way of thinking, if he wants to eat a rat that he picked up off the street, as long as he doesn't attract notice when cooking it, it's not anyone's business but his own.

Do I see him as being a smooth and frictionless member of the team? Of course not. But I do see him as being able to work with the others, larely because if all else fails, he can be rather easily intimidated, especially by rank. Oh, one final note. His behavior is really intended to cause discomfort to the characters, not the other players. I try to keep my RP avatars and myself seperate. I hope this is informative.

Best wishes,
Corgatha Taldorthar.


P.S. I can't see him liking Jexx all that much. Fet hates the "direct" approach. If they see you coming, you've already messed something up. (Also, he's something of a coward.)

P.P.S. ARGH! I'm trying to put in a long post here and I keep getting new ones in my way!

[techmaster-glitch]

Huh. By this description, Fet is a better character than Jexx on most counts. Jexx has hardly the slightest smidgen of respect for authority, and the only reason he does go along with anything is because he's usually told to do what he already wants to do, and he doesn't have much use in other capacities anyway. Where, although a "barbarian", Fet does have a social hierarchy imprinted on his mind, Jexx is driven almost completely by destructive instinct with virtually no social adjustment, though he has picked up a few things from hanging around the Rebellion. He also reacts violently to coercion/bullying/highly forceful commands.

Of course, Ryudo has the final word on all this, but if Fet is a more agreeable character than Jexx by any measure, even if he has to be forced into it, then I really don't see any reason at all why this wouldn't work.

[Azlan]

Well, I want my friction to come from the plot, not from some other player's character.  However, if this is important to you, hopefully the others will be able to accommodate you in some way.

[Ryudo Lee]

He seems to be the Belkar of the party, in some ways.  Let's see how this plays out, but try not to rub each other the wrong way too often, alright?  I'm trying to give everyone a fair shake, but I need everyone's cooperation to do so.  Try not to do anything that will upset others, okay?

[Lisky]

hmmm... this large, slow, armored transport, is it more like a train with no track (modified 18 wheeler), is it tracked, or ground effect... and a few other questions that would help to flesh this out a bit, is there visible breaks, such as obvious compartments, or is it more like a worm, where it's one vehicle, but designed to flex in certain areas for turning?

[Ryudo Lee]

Modified 18 wheeler would do.  It moves so slow because of the sheer weight of the compartments and the armor protecting it.