... poor Fi, gets big, and still can't stick up for himself
New Shirt:$13, Make-Up Supplies:$20, the look on Abel's face when he realizes Fi has Cyra's Mark on his forehead:Priceless. There are some things money can't buy. Thank God though that those things are given to us by plot.
Yeah poor guy cant catch a break, but wont not having a mark be a big red flag?
Actually, that mark completely slipped it's mind. But by Abel's expression, it slipped his mind too... I guess Danny boy will be getting an idea of the kind of enemies he has soon.
I just thought of something else about Clan Marks. A Warp-Aci has the color of the Clan's mark as a glow around them. Though I am pretty sure most adventurers aren't smart enough to realize it, couldn't they tell what Clan a Warp-Aci could belong to by their glow. I'm pretty sure there are clans that don't have identically colored Clan Marks
Quote from: OminousShadow on June 15, 2009, 01:44:25 AM
I just thought of something else about Clan Marks. A Warp-Aci has the color of the Clan's mark as a glow around them. Though I am pretty sure most adventurers aren't smart enough to realize it, couldn't they tell what Clan a Warp-Aci could belong to by their glow. I'm pretty sure there are clans that don't have identically colored Clan Marks
I just checked the archive quick and found a cubi and warp-aci with very similarly colored marks/glows as Dan and Fi. http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_553.php
So I guess there is some overlap when it comes to colors. One less thing for Dan (and Abel) to worry about.
NOT THE SHARPY!! OH THE INHUMANITY!! :cry
Quote from: Marmonstein on June 15, 2009, 01:51:54 AM
Quote from: OminousShadow on June 15, 2009, 01:44:25 AM
I just thought of something else about Clan Marks. A Warp-Aci has the color of the Clan's mark as a glow around them. Though I am pretty sure most adventurers aren't smart enough to realize it, couldn't they tell what Clan a Warp-Aci could belong to by their glow. I'm pretty sure there are clans that don't have identically colored Clan Marks
I just checked the archive quick and found a cubi and warp-aci with very similarly colored marks/glows as Dan and Fi. http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_553.php
So I guess there is some overlap when it comes to colors. One less thing for Dan (and Abel) to worry about.
That does appear likely. But if there are those who knows what Colors of Clan marks have Tri Wing Leaders and those that have similar color clan marks that don't have leaders, they would just look into the Warp-Aci's owners personal background and probably do snooping where they live to find out for sure.
Cubi aren't the only race that can summon Warp-Aci.
Really just about any race with the magic and the know-how can. It's just Warp Aci are trendier in Cubi circles so are more common.
Quote from: Amber Williams on June 15, 2009, 01:58:39 AM
Cubi aren't the only race that can summon Warp-Aci.
Really just about any race with the magic and the know-how can. It's just Warp Aci are trendier in Cubi circles so are more common.
like artists and messenger bags *nods*
The first thing I thought when I saw this comic was:
Would a marker even WORK on a Warp-Aci?
Then again, Abel did hold Fi over a BLENDER, Pip did bite Fi on more than one occasion....
I no longer have a clue why that question entered my mind....
But a funny comic! :giggle Don't worry, Abel, you weren't the only one....
Poor Fi. Can't seem to catch a break.
Also, the website's title bar made me chuckle. Such a good song :P
Quote from: Amber Williams on June 15, 2009, 01:58:39 AM
Cubi aren't the only race that can summon Warp-Aci.
Really just about any race with the magic and the know-how can.
Now I'm curious. What happens regarding the clan mark? Do they just end up white and unmarked like when Fi was unbound?
Quote from: Baal Hadad on June 15, 2009, 02:06:53 AM
Would a marker even WORK on a Warp-Aci?
Then again, Abel did hold Fi over a BLENDER, Pip did bite Fi on more than one occasion....
Now I'm getting a vision of Abel flying around the room on Fi's back.
Of cause, due to the issue of warp-aci being somewhat magical and glowy in nature, Abel's likely going to have to paint Fi's whole body anyway. Especially since it could be suspicious for a warp-aci to have a glow colour without any symbols. (the only warp aci we've seen without a symbol had a grey glow (and conveniently Fi as well))
As the Demonology 101 says.
QuoteA Warp-Aci will almost always have the marking of its owner on their forehead. This symbol is what ties them to their owner.
Almost always tends to mean there are those without. And a symbol doesn't always have to mean clan symbol. It could be something like someones initials, or a symbol the creator made themselves. Or none at all. It is more a trend with Cubi to use their clan symbol since SAIA tends to have more Warp Aci than average locations. That and it is a lot easier for most Cubi making Warp Aci to simply link the Aci up to the underlying current of the clans power than use their own so it tends to default to traits similar to that clan, symbol and all. The colours, the symbol, even the type of body and size the warp aci have...are generally left up to the summoner/creator to decide on. While it is true that every Warp Aci seen so far glows, as that is the default, it doesn't necessarily mean it isn't optional.
Hmmm, this strip does not smell like hastily plugged plot holes at all... ;)
Still, more than made up by the usual awesomeness and the interesting information about Warp Acis.
And poor Fi doesn't seem to have much luck with its new form...
Geez, Fi! Get bigger and the world doesn't really care.
S/he's still the universe's butt monkey.
Quote from: Marmonstein on June 15, 2009, 01:51:54 AM
I just checked the archive quick and found a cubi and warp-aci with very similarly colored marks/glows as Dan and Fi. http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_553.php
That might be a more practical solution than a permanent marker - Abel likes sewing, so surely he can make a Fi-sized hat.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 15, 2009, 05:21:10 AM
Quote from: Marmonstein on June 15, 2009, 01:51:54 AM
I just checked the archive quick and found a cubi and warp-aci with very similarly colored marks/glows as Dan and Fi. http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_553.php
That might be a more practical solution than a permanent marker - Abel likes sewing, so surely he can make a Fi-sized hat.
For some reason I thought of the Squid hat mocking the one from the first Harry Potter. With the 'Put on your Squid Hat!' song. Now I'm imagining Fi wearing a Squid hat, and I find the mental image quite high-lair-ee-us.
Quote from: Amber Williams on June 15, 2009, 03:17:32 AM
As the Demonology 101 says.
QuoteA Warp-Aci will almost always have the marking of its owner on their forehead. This symbol is what ties them to their owner.
Almost always tends to mean there are those without. And a symbol doesn't always have to mean clan symbol. It could be something like someones initials, or a symbol the creator made themselves. Or none at all. It is more a trend with Cubi to use their clan symbol since SAIA tends to have more Warp Aci than average locations. That and it is a lot easier for most Cubi making Warp Aci to simply link the Aci up to the underlying current of the clans power than use their own so it tends to default to traits similar to that clan, symbol and all. The colours, the symbol, even the type of body and size the warp aci have...are generally left up to the summoner/creator to decide on. While it is true that every Warp Aci seen so far glows, as that is the default, it doesn't necessarily mean it isn't optional.
i figured that warp-aci were essentially formless in their natural state and only have a form in whatever plain Furrae sits upon.
As for the symbol, i figure clan sigils, marks, family crests.... (even family tartan? :B) would be applicable, i'm guessing that if, say Kria had herself a warp-aci, it'd have some sort of symbol or something linking back to her, a family crest, for example.
Something's been itching at me.
Abel freaks out when Fi suddenly grows. He seems to infer from this that Dan has his clan symbol showing now. This isn't too much of a stretch. If the Warp-Aci is powered by some undercurrent of clan might, and Dan has acquired a better grip on it which is reflected in the clan symbol, then some sort of change does seem very natural.
The thing is, if this boost suddenly made Fi grow in size, how come we don't see any other enormous warp-Aci? All the shots at SAIA have them around the same size as Fi. The only thing I can think of offhand is that it was Fa'Lina's power that summoned Fi, and then Dan comes along and gives a boost on top of it, albiet accidentally. This results in an Aci that gets a "double helping" of clan power, reflected in a bigger (and possibly other effects yet unseen) Warp-Aci.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on June 15, 2009, 08:28:35 AM
Something's been itching at me.
Abel freaks out when Fi suddenly grows. He seems to infer from this that Dan has his clan symbol showing now. This isn't too much of a stretch. If the Warp-Aci is powered by some undercurrent of clan might, and Dan has acquired a better grip on it which is reflected in the clan symbol, then some sort of change does seem very natural.
The thing is, if this boost suddenly made Fi grow in size, how come we don't see any other enormous warp-Aci? All the shots at SAIA have them around the same size as Fi. The only thing I can think of offhand is that it was Fa'Lina's power that summoned Fi, and then Dan comes along and gives a boost on top of it, albiet accidentally. This results in an Aci that gets a "double helping" of clan power, reflected in a bigger (and possibly other effects yet unseen) Warp-Aci.
Quote from: Amber Williams on June 15, 2009, 03:17:32 AM
The colours, the symbol, even the type of body and size the warp aci have...are generally left up to the summoner/creator to decide on.
I think its Dan, he may have sub-consciously changed Fi's size from what information was given. However I'm not 100% sure as to what purpose it would serve other than to have a large glowing dogish magical warp creature with no real combat skills or strength. Or it could be what you said, but also when Fi was found unmarked the loss of connection with Fi also cut off the power. :B
Actually, wouldn't having Fi shapeshift to something else solve the problem? Almost certain that no one would notice a clan symbol on a crumpled piece of paper (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_420.php), even if the clan symbol is there to begin with.
And on a side note, uncrumpled Fi (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_416.php) has a symbol which doesn't seem to be Fa'Lina's clan symbol on it's back... is that the symbol for SAIA instead?
Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 15, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
NOT THE SHARPY!! OH THE INHUMANITY!! :cry
Humanity? In Furrae? Impossible. They're a myth.
I be lovin' Abel's "Wait WHAT?!" face. He be makin' lots of new faces in the comic recently. :D
Oh, Amber! I'm sure you're getting such a kick out of all the terrific facial expressions you're putting Abel through right now.
It's good to see Abel has emotions OTHER THAN just smug jerkiness. :giggle
Is it me or is Fi getting bigger by the strip. At first it seams he was dog sized (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_993.php), than he looked about pig sized (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1005.php), after that he looked human sized (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1013.php) and now he's almost horse size (http://missmab.com/index.php).
Maybe it's just me but he seems to be getting bigger and it sort of freaks me out.
Poor Fi has never had any luck, but I wonder if it would have changed the event of page 947 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_947.php) if he had gotten the size boost sooner?
Quote from: Garsemor on June 15, 2009, 11:12:48 AM
Is it me or is Fi getting bigger by the strip.
Dunno about horse-sized, to me he looks like he might be the size of a very large dog.
I imagine if Abel does manage to get sharpie on Fi's forehead, for the next couple of minutes he's going to be a bit... tipsy from the smell. ;o
Quote from: Amber Williams on June 15, 2009, 03:17:32 AM
Almost always tends to mean there are those without. And a symbol doesn't always have to mean clan symbol. It could be something like someones initials, or a symbol the creator made themselves. Or none at all. It is more a trend with Cubi to use their clan symbol since SAIA tends to have more Warp Aci than average locations. That and it is a lot easier for most Cubi making Warp Aci to simply link the Aci up to the underlying current of the clans power than use their own so it tends to default to traits similar to that clan, symbol and all. The colours, the symbol, even the type of body and size the warp aci have...are generally left up to the summoner/creator to decide on. While it is true that every Warp Aci seen so far glows, as that is the default, it doesn't necessarily mean it isn't optional.
If that's the case, it might be easiest long run for Dan (as Fi's current' summoner) to do whatever is needed so that the marking doesn't show. Or does Fa'lina still count as the summoner and they'd have to ask her?
As for the lack of other large Warp-Aci...what I had been thinking is that most warp-aci were summoned by already-powerful creatures. Fi is sort of a unique case in that it was attached to an immature cubi who's still growing in his power. The other alternative that came to mind is that Cyra imbued Fi with new power/knowledge through Fi's link to Dan...which would also explain Abel's reaction and how Abel knew Dan talked to Cyra.
Quote from: Aganerral on June 15, 2009, 11:30:40 AM
The other alternative that came to mind is that Cyra imbued Fi with new power/knowledge through Fi's link to Dan...which would also explain Abel's reaction and how Abel knew Dan talked to Cyra.
Don't know about knowledge, but I can understand Cyra giving Fi a power upgrade.
Quote from: Orion Asmodeus Dezagrats on June 15, 2009, 10:07:02 AM
Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 15, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
NOT THE SHARPY!! OH THE INHUMANITY!! :cry
Humanity? In Furrae? Impossible. They're a myth.
I be lovin' Abel's "Wait WHAT?!" face. He be makin' lots of new faces in the comic recently. :D
Merlitz will be angry at you for saying that, and the weres will pull pranks on you now. Along with other shapeshifters than can appear to be human.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 15, 2009, 05:21:10 AM
Quote from: Marmonstein on June 15, 2009, 01:51:54 AM
I just checked the archive quick and found a cubi and warp-aci with very similarly colored marks/glows as Dan and Fi. http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_553.php
That might be a more practical solution than a permanent marker - Abel likes sewing, so surely he can make a Fi-sized hat.
I agree. Abel seems to be getting lazier the more stress he has on him... is that a weakness on the invincible jerk!?
Love the "Oh crap, he's right!" look on Abel's face when Dan mentions the mark on Fi's head.
Dan is probably experienced in following a trail and getting information from what insignia his opponents are wearing (military intelligence type training). That would be useful in adventuring. Abel may be more experienced in cubi matters, but Dan is probably more skilled in how to conceal signs of your presence so that you can scout out the land and ambush your enemies.
Dan is a skilled warrior. His problem is when he stops thinking because of anger. If he hadn't lost his temper, he would have mopped the floor with Regina and DP.
Quote from: Naldru on June 15, 2009, 02:56:53 PM
Dan is a skilled warrior. His problem is when he stops thinking because of anger. If he hadn't lost his temper, he would have mopped the floor with Regina and DP.
Well from what we have seen of Regina, she can barely count as a opponent.
Quote from: Ganurath on June 15, 2009, 11:42:53 AM
Quote from: Orion Asmodeus Dezagrats on June 15, 2009, 10:07:02 AM
Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on June 15, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
NOT THE SHARPY!! OH THE INHUMANITY!! :cry
Humanity? In Furrae? Impossible. They're a myth.
I be lovin' Abel's "Wait WHAT?!" face. He be makin' lots of new faces in the comic recently. :D
Merlitz will be angry at you for saying that, and the weres will pull pranks on you now. Along with other shapeshifters than can appear to be human.
Rose won't be too pleased either. :3
Quote from: Forycles on June 15, 2009, 12:53:31 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 15, 2009, 05:21:10 AM
Quote from: Marmonstein on June 15, 2009, 01:51:54 AM
I just checked the archive quick and found a cubi and warp-aci with very similarly colored marks/glows as Dan and Fi. http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_553.php
That might be a more practical solution than a permanent marker - Abel likes sewing, so surely he can make a Fi-sized hat.
I agree. Abel seems to be getting lazier the more stress he has on him... is that a weakness on the invincible jerk!?
Take a step back and think about this. What do you really think is going to happen if you give Fi a hat and tell him to never take it off? Are you forgetting why we nearly ended up with blended Aci recently? Fi has the attention span of a ferret.
Quote from: Naldru on June 15, 2009, 02:56:53 PM
Dan is probably experienced in following a trail and getting information from what insignia his opponents are wearing (military intelligence type training). That would be useful in adventuring. Abel may be more experienced in cubi matters, but Dan is probably more skilled in how to conceal signs of your presence so that you can scout out the land and ambush your enemies.
Dan is a skilled warrior. His problem is when he stops thinking because of anger. If he hadn't lost his temper, he would have mopped the floor with Regina and DP.
I'm not so certain. Take this (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_203.php) strip to the end of the arc. Even on an adventure that is not pressed upon him, at no point does Dan act with anything even remotely resembling forethought or even common sense. His swordsmanship might be pretty good which might have taken down DP or Regina, but Dan Ti'Fiona seems to be lacking in judgement, period. Recognizing symbols, or concealing them, might be out of his ability range.
Quote from: Dracora on June 15, 2009, 03:21:38 PM
Rose won't be too pleased either. :3
Technically we haven't seen Rose in Furrae...
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on June 15, 2009, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: Naldru on June 15, 2009, 02:56:53 PM
Dan is probably experienced in following a trail and getting information from what insignia his opponents are wearing (military intelligence type training). That would be useful in adventuring. Abel may be more experienced in cubi matters, but Dan is probably more skilled in how to conceal signs of your presence so that you can scout out the land and ambush your enemies.
Dan is a skilled warrior. His problem is when he stops thinking because of anger. If he hadn't lost his temper, he would have mopped the floor with Regina and DP.
I'm not so certain. Take this (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_203.php) strip to the end of the arc. Even on an adventure that is not pressed upon him, at no point does Dan act with anything even remotely resembling forethought or even common sense. His swordsmanship might be pretty good which might have taken down DP or Regina, but Dan Ti'Fiona seems to be lacking in judgement, period. Recognizing symbols, or concealing them, might be out of his ability range.
No elaboration needed: Dan is many things, a master of incognito is not one of them. (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_259.php). And regarding knowledge of cubi: Back to basics. Very basics. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_507.php)
Hmm...Wonder if Dan can try attempting to claim that the WS brand is his clan symbol instead, as a further distraction/distortion of the truth..
Quote from: Garsemor on June 15, 2009, 11:36:49 AM
Quote from: Aganerral on June 15, 2009, 11:30:40 AM
The other alternative that came to mind is that Cyra imbued Fi with new power/knowledge through Fi's link to Dan...which would also explain Abel's reaction and how Abel knew Dan talked to Cyra.
Don't know about knowledge, but I can understand Cyra giving Fi a power upgrade.
Well, I didn't mean in the sense of intelligence...that would make Fi less fun anyway :) But what came to mind was from one of the books in the 2nd (and lesser IMHO) half of Roger Zelazzny's Chronicles of Amber. The main character is trapped ain a sot of nether realm and one of the Powers of that universe gives one of his magical doohickeys teporary sentience and hints about what to do that reveal themselves at the appropriate time.
Which seemed like a useless addition without the third series explaining things about those realms. Unfortunately we'll never see that third series.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 15, 2009, 11:15:12 AM
Quote from: Garsemor on June 15, 2009, 11:12:48 AM
Is it me or is Fi getting bigger by the strip.
Dunno about horse-sized, to me he looks like he might be the size of a very large dog.
Huh, very large dog? Only a bit larg... Sorry, I keep forgetting I measure with Great Danes as standard.
Sorry to interrupt, but what was that about Amber's series?
Fortunately, Abel only has to hold the pen in one spot long enough for the ink to spill out over the mark...since fi is like pater that sould be a relitivel painles process...unless theink seeps into his brain, and makes him weird.
Perhaps Fi should stop being such a wuss.
I mean come on! Fi is pushed around by EVERYONE.
WITH A SARPIE.
*Runs off to draw on Fi*
GLEEE!! MAGIC BLACKBOARD!
*shakefist at Amber*
I've had this song stuck in my head ever since I saw your header!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ileMBlAqKw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ileMBlAqKw)
Quote from: Forycles on June 15, 2009, 09:52:28 PM
Sorry to interrupt, but what was that about Amber's series?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Amber
...nothing to do with Mrs. Williams, though.
Quote from: Forycles on June 15, 2009, 09:52:28 PM
Sorry to interrupt, but what was that about Amber's series?
Not Amber's. Amber. It's a country in a fictional setting by Roger Zelazny, run as a monarchy by a family of near-immortal magicians. The hero of the first five, Corwin, is one of those princes who makes a run for the throne, gets thrown in jail, blinded, grows his eyes back (there is an in-story explanation, but it's too long to go into here; suffice it to say that it takes him five years and he's not terribly happy about it,
and he regenerates much faster than most of the family), breaks out of prison, raises an army and goes back to take over again, gets shortstopped partway there by someone else's taking of the throne, and eventually stops because he didn't want the throne after all, he just didn't want the incumbent to keep it...
The second five get more complex to explain, but are about his son, Merlin, who goes looking for him. Merlin is hampered by someone attempting to kill him once every year, distracted by pretty women and magicians, sometimes in the same body, locked in caves, and eventually manages to figure out that the universe is a lot bigger and stranger than it looked in the first five.
After that, the author passed away, without ever actually finishing the whole lot. I think I have two copies of the collection, in one book, in two different countries. I really need to get around to organising my book collection...
Edit:
Dammit, TW, can't you have at least put some effort into it? ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 16, 2009, 05:18:43 AM
Dammit, TW, can't you have at least put some effort into it? ;-]
I suppose I
could have phoned up my brother and asked for a précis, since he's read them but since I haven't, wikipedia was quicker :P
What, people were talking about Amber and Frakir and I missed it? NOOOZEZ :cry
Btw, if you get Mana from Heaven, (a collection of short stories by Zelazny) they have 6 Amber short stories, all set after Prince of Chaos ends. One of them is even from Frakir's PoV.