Well, that certainly wasn't a nice thing to do... If I understand correctly, Aniz is one of those two remaining Siar members (if the clan really exists after the leader is killed?), do we know who the other is?
Holy... crap. Damn, Hizell's a Vaarsuvius (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0639.html) (WARNING: major Order of the Stick spoilers!). The rivalry between Hizell and Siar must have been one hell of a thing. Two thousand members? Just... wow. Damn... man. Is that what the Cubi/Dragon wars were like?
I sure hope I'm not the only one who thought Fa'Lina's "wingspan" was a bit more "perky" than usual in that last panel...
Hmmm, so a 99.9% death rate. Wonder what the two of the four who went and got themselves killed did during their last day. Also a dragon can't assault the academy?
I'd imagine that the defenses of SAIA are quite strong, make even dimensional barriers. Makes "storming the gates" a much tougher thing to do than to say, even for a dragon.
Heh, I guess the dragons are not friends with any rats, then. :3
Well Hizel at any rate.
Quote from: Fibre on May 15, 2009, 03:03:51 AM
Heh, I guess the dragons are not friends with any rats, then. :3
That would be a dangerous idea. Fa'lina would most certainly know that they're coming, and a tight space like that would make a wonderful bottle-neck/kill-hole.
2000 members is impressive. Supposedly in present-day DMFA there are under 30'000 'Cubi in total. I'd heard from a reliable source that clans normally top out at less than 100 members, so 2000 is astonishing.
This revelation brings up a few questions. For example, did they stop hunting Siar members down, given that Aniz is alive even after spending 25 years outside? Are they going to be after Abel?
It's possible that the method they used to hunt down the Siar members had similar limits to Fa'Lina's awareness, e.g. if the survivors stay hidden for more than three months after Siar's death the dragons will no longer be able to 'see' their location.
I am wondering whether Cyra's dragon problem is more widespread. It's very possible that the dragons want to be rid of all tri-winged 'Cubi clans, in which case Destania's plan - horrible as it is - has a certain practical appeal.
Well i wonder how many members of Cyra clan there are in the modern day dmfa? As well as is Hizell still alive, will we see him/her come after Abel?
We know of one, Abel. Is Aniz still around, did the other survivor ever have kids, does Abel have siblings?
Yikes. Much as I'm sad to see Siar go out with more of a whimper than a bang (even with such a brief appearance, Siar was one of my favorite character designs), I feel even worse for Abel. Finding out your father's a homicidal maniac and _then_ discovering the family you never knew you had was hunted down and slaughtered like cattle, that's a really rotten day.
Quote from: FSharp on May 15, 2009, 03:48:57 AM
Finding out your father's a homicidal maniac and _then_ discovering the family you never knew you had was hunted down and slaughtered like cattle, that's a really rotten day.
Well, he is finding out
why his father is nuts. That may well help.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 15, 2009, 04:21:52 AM
Well, he is finding out why his father is nuts. That may well help.
Also sheds some light on why Fa'Lina didn't turn Aniz into a cubi-shaped bloodspray when he popped the "You couldn't save your clan from genocide" line (especially when you get the impression he was expecting it). Made me read the top two panels in strip #18 differently as well.
Dragons 1998 / cubi um........ lose. But d@#@ thats a have handed tactick but affective. I think that the war will have nore inportence in coming pages then was prevusly thaugh.
You won't see me shed tears for Siar(didn't like the bastards from the start), but seeing Fa'lina so sad(top panel) touches something in me enough to wish things had gone differently. Damn Siar!
1998? Or 1996... Because I wonder if those last two fatalities fell against Destania.
Hizell had allies... It makes me wonder if there were non-dragon or cubi participants in their war? I take it that there aren't many dragons, and if so, getting together an army of dragons would be a slim possibility. I wonder who those other participants were, if they weren't dragons, as I can certainly see it that the actions of Clan Siar were such a blight that they had racked up a large host of enemies that would be willing to ally with a dragon. Plus, I kind of get the impression dragons don't work together easily either, large powerful, and fragile egos tend not to mix.
Quote from: Michael Chandra on May 15, 2009, 05:55:52 AM
1998? Or 1996... Because I wonder if those last two fatalities fell against Destania.
I don't see it. More likely, there were two other Siar members outside the Academy, and the Dragons caught up with them. Fa'Lina is unlikely to allow Destania to kill students within the Academy grounds and anyway, clan genocide seems to be something that touches a nerve with her.
Likely that the two survivors were Aniz and someone else inside SAIA.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 15, 2009, 06:52:47 AM
Quote from: Michael Chandra on May 15, 2009, 05:55:52 AM
1998? Or 1996... Because I wonder if those last two fatalities fell against Destania.
I don't see it. More likely, there were two other Siar members outside the Academy, and the Dragons caught up with them. Fa'Lina is unlikely to allow Destania to kill students within the Academy grounds and anyway, clan genocide seems to be something that touches a nerve with her.
Likely that the two survivors were Aniz and someone else inside SAIA.
Or there were four inside the Academy, and two of them suicided. I mean, they just lost their entire family in one day; that would be a massive toll on the sanity. :(
Does make me wonder who the other survivor was, though. I wonder is they're sane, or somewhere in the Academy wearing an I-love-me jacket in a padded room?
..And the morale of this story is - don't mess with dragons. They'll destroy you and all you love. :eek
There's a camp on the forums who say Aniz might be Dan's father, right? The one who's locked up in stasis. Could the other Siar survivor have actually been Dan's father, in this case? Does anyone from that camp have any interesting details or possible supporting evidence?
*Charline eeps...* Oh damn... If I'd know Hizell was the ringleader of such a horrible thing against Cubi, I never would have slept with him... at least not more than once... maybe twice... :shifty
Quote from: Kayriel on May 15, 2009, 08:02:57 AM
There's a camp on the forums who say Aniz might be Dan's father, right? The one who's locked up in stasis. Could the other Siar survivor have actually been Dan's father, in this case? Does anyone from that camp have any interesting details or possible supporting evidence?
Touchy subject. All I'll say on this matter is that Destania's comment in 725 about "The only reason he isn't dead" is rather intriguing.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 15, 2009, 08:16:53 AM
Quote from: Kayriel on May 15, 2009, 08:02:57 AM
There's a camp on the forums who say Aniz might be Dan's father, right? The one who's locked up in stasis. Could the other Siar survivor have actually been Dan's father, in this case? Does anyone from that camp have any interesting details or possible supporting evidence?
Touchy subject. All I'll say on this matter is that Destania's comment in 725 about "The only reason he isn't dead" is rather intriguing.
Aww, didn't know it was touchy. Just that I feel it's interesting to see what the fans come up with.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 15, 2009, 03:18:56 AM
I'd heard from a reliable source that clans normally top out at less than 100 members, so 2000 is astonishing.
There are names for people who talk to themselves. >:3
... Damn. Talk about a Total Party Kill. <shakes head> Gotta wonder what Abel's reaction will be.
Quote from: Turnsky on May 15, 2009, 08:52:00 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 15, 2009, 03:18:56 AM
I'd heard from a reliable source that clans normally top out at less than 100 members, so 2000 is astonishing.
There are names for people who talk to themselves. >:3
They say it's the first sign of insanity :B
2000 to 2 in 3 days...Wow...
That's one smart Dragon.
Quote from: The1Kobra on May 15, 2009, 06:48:57 AM
Hizell had allies... It makes me wonder if there were non-dragon or cubi participants in their war? I take it that there aren't many dragons, and if so, getting together an army of dragons would be a slim possibility. I wonder who those other participants were, if they weren't dragons, as I can certainly see it that the actions of Clan Siar were such a blight that they had racked up a large host of enemies that would be willing to ally with a dragon. Plus, I kind of get the impression dragons don't work together easily either, large powerful, and fragile egos tend not to mix.
Well, the clans used to have enemies: I can see Hizell approaching Siar's old enemies and given them the chance to wipe the clan out. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality and all that.
Quote from: Kipiru on May 15, 2009, 05:24:48 AM
You won't see me shed tears for Siar(didn't like the bastards from the start), but seeing Fa'lina so sad(top panel) touches something in me enough to wish things had gone differently. Damn Siar!
We do have word that at least some of them (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_052.php) were decent people. (Probably more so than Fa'Lina.)
Show of hands: Who else wants to hear the Boring History? :peace
Quote from: Caswin on May 15, 2009, 10:52:33 AM
Quote from: Kipiru on May 15, 2009, 05:24:48 AM
You won't see me shed tears for Siar(didn't like the bastards from the start), but seeing Fa'lina so sad(top panel) touches something in me enough to wish things had gone differently. Damn Siar!
We do have word that at least some of them (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_052.php) were decent people. (Probably more so than Fa'Lina.)
"Her children were many" indeed.
Ah, there we go. Not only an explanation of how their numbers got so big, but also a feasible explanation why a dragon might have a bone to pick with them. And also where a dragon might have gotten enough allies to kill two thousand cubi of varying power levels and ages: if it was Cubi that Hizell got as allies, then it was because of jealousy for Siar prospering during the Cubi wars when so many other clans were ruined, and if it was other magical beings it was for traveling around causing woe and misfortune in search of a good misery high.
Quote from: Caswin on May 15, 2009, 10:52:33 AM
Show of hands: Who else wants to hear the Boring History? :peace
I do! *raises hand*
Quote from: Caswin on May 15, 2009, 10:52:33 AM
Show of hands: Who else wants to hear the Boring History? :peace
*raises hand*
Whether Edward is Aniz or not, I have a sneaking suspicion that this is at least part of the reason why Dee is fighting for the obliteration of dragonkind...
Quote from: Caswin on May 15, 2009, 10:52:33 AM
Show of hands: Who else wants to hear the Boring History? :peace
After ticking off one of the admins with my last post, I'm kind of in a self-imposed "Leave of Absence" until I have the site rules memorized as well as I have the DMFA rules. (To tell the truth, until this happened, I had not actually read the site rules, being buried as they are, and have been relying on common sense as well as the local Rule list ever sense the migration to the Mansion. Frankly, I'm lucky I lasted as long as I did.)
That being said, however, I am compelled to add my vote for more sweet, succulent, life giving backstory. :mwaha
Fa'lina said that two were alive at the end of the second day. She didn't say that both of them were alive at the end of the week. I suppose that next week we'll find out how Aniz was kept alive.
Quote from: Naldru on May 15, 2009, 12:23:06 PM
Fa'lina said that two were alive at the end of the second day. She didn't say that both of them were alive at the end of the week. I suppose that next week we'll find out how Aniz was kept alive.
From what Fa'Lina said, it looks like it was because he remained in SAIA where the Dragons couldn't get at him. Dunno about the other one.
I wouldn't be surprised if the other Sair clan member was somehow killed off for various reasons. Judging by the (quite frankly) morbid storyline, I'm expecting it.
That would make Abel and Aniz the last two of their clan, as people would expect. However, it's hard to tell if it'd cause Abel to be the Soul survivor of his clan in the present day comic arc, due to various different complexities (I'm thinking of the Edward-Aniz theory for a starter here).
Aniz is probably insane for the reasons stated, and that after rehab he decided that he wants to restore his clan. in Either case, Sair as a clan is practically dead, and is seemingly doomed to remain so
Quote from: Caswin on May 15, 2009, 10:52:33 AM
Show of hands: Who else wants to hear the Boring History? :peace
(raises both hands)
Seriously, history of something I care about ≠ (does not equal) boring.
am i the only person who suddenly thought of (NSFW, violence and language) this scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfXuNJxWw88&feature=related), from Boondock Saints while reading that?
If there's one martial theme Amber seems to like expounding, it's that preperations wins fights. I got the impression from the previous week's comic that this was some sort of chance happening, or mutual surprise. Now it seems more like Hizell had some deathtrap set up for the Siar clan. Makes you wonder what the grudge was, and how Siar managed to fall into it.
Quote from: Caswin on May 15, 2009, 10:52:33 AM
Show of hands: Who else wants to hear the Boring History? :peace
Depends what'd be on offer.
This strip is probably one of the saddest strips in the whole backstory, so I'm a little torn.
Would I like to learn more about the Dragon Wars from a historical point of view? Hell yes.
Would I like to learn in graphic detail about the genocide of pretty much an entire clan? Probably not.
I can just see that somewhere in a future strip that Edward turns out to be Aniz and then both Abel and Dan end up having a Jyrrus-Style brain failure.
...Wow. Well, my first reaction was "He should have been more sympathetic to Fa'Lina before running his mouth off about which clans can't save the others from genocide." But God. This is awful.
Quote from: Caswin on May 15, 2009, 10:52:33 AM
Show of hands: Who else wants to hear the Boring History? :peace
Meee. (handraise) Mostly because even though we know now that the hatred between dragons and 'Cubi is centuries old, i wanna know who started it. Did Cyra steal a pig or something?
Oh wow.
This comic disturbed the bejeesus out of me. D: Hizell's a jerk.
Quote from: Jairus on May 15, 2009, 11:05:45 AM
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Quote from: Kipiru on May 15, 2009, 05:24:48 AM
You won't see me shed tears for Siar(didn't like the bastards from the start), but seeing Fa'lina so sad(top panel) touches something in me enough to wish things had gone differently. Damn Siar!
We do have word that at least some of them (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_052.php) were decent people. (Probably more so than Fa'Lina.)
"Her children were many" indeed.
Not to mention, Hizell's forces wiped out
infants.
Hey I love history I'm game.
I now wanna do more Siar fanart but still trying to fix my tablet :<
Love the history lesson... and this is why you don't attack head on if your group specializes in stealth. :p
Quote from: Kuari on May 15, 2009, 03:56:54 PM
Love the history lesson... and this is why you don't attack head on if your group specializes in stealth. :p
Given the horrible lengths the dragons went to, I suspect they started it, not her.
Yeah, it did say it was her 'Last Stand' against Hizell, and not her 'Attack On'.
Suddenly the taught of Dee doing a genocide of th Dragon race doesn't seem so bad. It's still a horrible thing and shouldn't be done or even talked about but deep down I feel like they would deserve it. :<
Quote from: Buhamet on May 15, 2009, 12:40:00 PM
That would make Abel and Aniz the last two of their clan, as people would expect. However, it's hard to tell if it'd cause Abel to be the Soul survivor of his clan in the present day comic arc, due to various different complexities (I'm thinking of the Edward-Aniz theory for a starter here).
Even if Edward is Aniz, Dan would still be part of the Cyra clan, not the Siar clan. And the fact that Abel has raised being alone to an art form makes it hard for me to imagine Abel having kids. Given the tone of the story, the only way I could see Abel having kids would be if the dragons killed them off when they were but wee youths. That would put Aniz and Abel in almost the same position of being head cases.
What I was wondering was that there probably members of the Siar clan who had had children where the other parent was of a more powerful clan. The children would therefore not have been in the Siar clan. Would these children have been killed by the psychic massacre as well as those who were actual members of the Siar clan.
Quote from: Naldru on May 15, 2009, 05:49:46 PM
What I was wondering was that there probably members of the Siar clan who had had children where the other parent was of a more powerful clan. The children would therefore not have been in the Siar clan. Would these children have been killed by the psychic massacre as well as those who were actual members of the Siar clan.
It doesn't sound to me like they poisoned the clan link to kill them, if that's what you're thinking, but to find out where they were so they could go and kill them by hand.
Note how Fa'Lina puts it "Track down the entire bloodline", and also the bit at the end about how the dragons would have stormed SAIA if they had been able to get into it.
As for whether children of a Siar 'Cubi and a stronger clan would also be tracked is unclear.
Quote from: Garsemor on May 15, 2009, 05:14:19 PM
Suddenly the taught of Dee doing a genocide of th Dragon race doesn't seem so bad. It's still a horrible thing and shouldn't be done or even talked about but deep down I feel like they would deserve it. :<
Who's "they?" Hizell and his allies? That's not the dragon race. I mean, maybe it's the dragon fanboy in me speaking, but it's not like the entire dragon race rose up as one to kill all of clan Siar. It was Hizell who had the grudge with Siar and planned the trap that led to Siar's death and the clan's destruction. Not the dragons as a whole. I mean, we don't even know if Hizell's allies were dragons or something else, but it certainly wasn't the entire dragon race, or Fa'Lina would have said that.
Besides which, I'm sure the Cubi were no better during the war. For all we know, the Cubi did it to the dragons and their own race. Hell, Hizell might just have learned a trick from the Cubi.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 15, 2009, 05:59:29 PM
Quote from: Naldru on May 15, 2009, 05:49:46 PM
What I was wondering was that there probably members of the Siar clan who had had children where the other parent was of a more powerful clan. The children would therefore not have been in the Siar clan. Would these children have been killed by the psychic massacre as well as those who were actual members of the Siar clan.
It doesn't sound to me like they poisoned the clan link to kill them, if that's what you're thinking, but to find out where they were so they could go and kill them by hand.
Note how Fa'Lina puts it "Track down the entire bloodline", and also the bit at the end about how the dragons would have stormed SAIA if they had been able to get into it.
As for whether children of a Siar 'Cubi and a stronger clan would also be tracked is unclear.
To be fair, Fa'Lina says "He would have stormed the gates," not "they would have stormed the gates," implying Hizell and his allies, not the entire dragon race. I think Hizell just wanted to make sure that Siar was gone for good, not kill every single Cubi there. Though, given the chance and the old enmity between Cubi and Dragons, I wouldn't put it past him to do a little extra damage...
I'm fairly certain Siar deserved it, most of her clan too, I applaud Hizell on being as thorough as he could be in this.
Quote from: Azlan on May 15, 2009, 07:03:53 PM
I'm fairly certain Siar deserved it, most of her clan too, I applaud Hizell on being as thorough as he could be in this.
I see what you did thar
I want to see how Aniz will react to the news. :U
That, and the fate of that other clan member that survived.
I still can't buy the Edward = Aniz line of thought. Rhe only way it works is that if Dee knew that that was the case and wanted to get back together with him. The 2 major flaws are:
1) Aniz' main goal appears to be to do what he can to rebuild his clan. But Dee is almost definitely a more powerful cubi than he is (allowing for the chance that in the nearly 400 years between Abvel's Story and now he leveled up enough, but that seems unlikely), so any cubi kids would be Cyra not Siar.
2) I can't see him fooling her. I don't see Dee falling in love and marrying a supposed being that a) keeps mind shields up all the time even around her and b) always keeps his left wrist covered. She seems too on top of things (and skilled in all things devious herself) to not suspect something.
Of course, that's all out the window if they set this plan up at some point :)
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 15, 2009, 01:39:59 PM
Would I like to learn more about the Dragon Wars from a historical point of view? Hell yes.
Would I like to learn in graphic detail about the genocide of pretty much an entire clan? Probably not.
Just think, we might be getting a fresher genocide in the main comic. Not just of a clan, not of a "nationality," or a subsection of a species, but full extinction of an entire race. Probably a glossed version because of the rating of the main comic, but full genocide is still looming. How will we view Destania when all the Dragons are dead and gone?
Anyone else thinking the other survivor might be at SAIA?
Wow... what a tragic act indeed. I know that Siar's clan isn't real.... but it kind of puts into perspective the sheer volume of horrible killings through life.
Quote from: Lucheek on May 15, 2009, 08:31:21 PM
Wow... what a tragic act indeed. I know that Siar's clan isn't real.... but it kind of puts into perspective the sheer volume of horrible killings through life.
Yeah, nothin like the holocaust or the mass graves in the middle east eh? :B
As far as personal vendettas go, take a look at Liver Eating Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver-Eating_Johnson). I forget where I heard it, but I remember a person once saying "All an eye for an eye gets you in end is a bunch of blind people."
I think I've seen that one attributed to Ghandi: "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
Quote from: LionHeart on May 15, 2009, 10:08:37 PM
I think I've seen that one attributed to Ghandi: "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
I'd say the rule "an eye for an eye" was probably put into place as a way to reduce violence. The natural response would have been "A life for an eye" or worse.
Quote from: Pagan on May 15, 2009, 08:24:44 PM
but full genocide is still looming. How will we view Destania when all the Dragons are dead and gone?
Hey, now, she hasn't killed the dragons
yet. There's still a chance -- just a chance, mind you -- that she could fail in her effort to kill a massive number of sentient giant lizards with powerful magic abilities and lifespans stretching back thousands of years each. It's harder than it sounds.
But to answer your question, I figure that if she does succeed, I'll just add "genocide" to "indiscriminate murder, rape and torture".
It won't be complete genocide. Pyroduck is not with the dragons. if anything, he's on the Cubi side.
Quote from: OminousShadow on May 16, 2009, 12:27:12 AM
It won't be complete genocide. Pyroduck is not with the dragons. if anything, he's on the Cubi side.
Actually he's on the Dan side. Dan doesn't have anything whit dragons (except for a dept) and when it comes to his ranting about cubi it can be put in a single sentence "I don't want to be a Cubi". So Dan is more neutral and Pyro is neutral a well in this case.
Quote from: Caswin on May 15, 2009, 11:38:26 PM
Hey, now, she hasn't killed the dragons yet. There's still a chance -- just a chance, mind you -- that she could fail in her effort to kill a massive number of sentient giant lizards with powerful magic abilities and lifespans stretching back thousands of years each. It's harder than it sounds.
More than that - millions of years each.
I really don't think she can. I still say that the best she can aim for is kicking them out of the Furrae continuum and blocking them from being able to return.
Quote from: Aganerral on May 15, 2009, 07:34:13 PM
The 2 major flaws are:
1) Aniz' main goal appears to be to do what he can to rebuild his clan. But Dee is almost definitely a more powerful cubi than he is (allowing for the chance that in the nearly 400 years between Abvel's Story and now he leveled up enough, but that seems unlikely), so any cubi kids would be Cyra not Siar.
Right now they're about to split up, most likely for that very reason. But that doesn't entirely preclude them getting back together.
Quote2) I can't see him fooling her. I don't see Dee falling in love and marrying a supposed being that a) keeps mind shields up all the time even around her and b) always keeps his left wrist covered. She seems too on top of things (and skilled in all things devious herself) to not suspect something.
I don't think anyone's suggested that she managed to fool him for more than about three minutes. More likely, if he
is Aniz, she went to the inn in the first place in order to finally destroy him. See the glowing in 298? And Amber suggested that she was faking her injuries.
'Course, if Edward is just Edward, it's possible she married him because he looked like Aniz and reminded her of the old times.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 06:33:28 AM
'Course, if Edward is just Edward, it's possible she married him because he looked like Aniz and reminded her of the old times.
You're right, it's totally unlikely she married him because she loved him.
Why not just marry a picture if that reminds you of old times :b
Quote from: Drathorin on May 16, 2009, 09:15:57 AM
You're right, it's totally unlikely she married him because she loved him.
It is reasonably clear from what Fi and Abel have said that any given Being means about as much to Destania as a single apple in a supermarket (at least during her SAIA years). She's spent almost seven thousand years teaching 'Cubi to torture them to death and suck out their souls.
So IMHO, going from destroying him to marrying him just like that
is unlikely. Remember, it took centuries for Aniz to get her to budge.
EDIT:
For what it's worth, I'm not saying that she
stayed with him because he reminded her of Aniz, just that it might be why she didn't eat him. She might, as you suggest, have grown to love him for his own sake, in the intervening two months.
Quote from: Azlan on May 15, 2009, 07:03:53 PM
I'm fairly certain Siar deserved it, most of her clan too, I applaud Hizell on being as thorough as he could be in this.
I also see what you did thar. Tired of trolling threads about alcohol? :O
Although good tongue-in-cheek response to the race wank.
Since we do not know what happens to Dee between Aniz and current time, it is possible for situations to occur that can drastically change one's outlook. Just because 'Cubi tend to be egotistical islands populated with dense forests of selfishness that bear the bitter fruits of stubbornness, self-importance, and ingrained racial superiority... doesn't mean they can deviate and find true love even among those they feel as lesser. Perhaps there is an underlying trait buried within Dee that makes her different, or perhaps something else? Can't really say at this time, not enough to go on.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on May 16, 2009, 03:01:55 PM
I also see what you did thar. Tired of trolling threads about alcohol? :O
Although good tongue-in-cheek response to the race wank.
Nah, if I troll it is inherently evil and vehement. I am just brutally honest and tactless. I have to wear such a face to exist in corporate America...
Nice to see someone understands the intent to TiC (Tongue-in-Cheek) it.
Quote from: Azlan on May 16, 2009, 03:10:08 PM
Nah, if I troll it is inherently evil and vehement. I am just brutally honest and tactless. I have to wear such a face to exist in corporate America...
Nice to see someone understands the intent to TiC (Tongue-in-Cheek) it.
(http://www.danielsjourney.com/blog/files/2007/12/fry-see-what-you-did-there-scaled.jpg)
Quote from: Azlan on May 16, 2009, 03:10:08 PM
Nice to see someone understands the intent to TiC (Tongue-in-Cheek) it.
I think Drathorin spotted it before me, actually. :B
I might need to change my tactics in the event of more race wank.
EDIT (16/05/09): WHAT THE HELL YUGO WHY MUST YOU BE SO AWESOME.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on May 16, 2009, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: Azlan on May 16, 2009, 03:10:08 PM
Nice to see someone understands the intent to TiC (Tongue-in-Cheek) it.
I think Drathorin spotted it before me, actually. :B
I might need to change my tactics in the event of more race wank.
A personal tactic of mine
If artillery doesn't solve the problem, you aren't using enough. :C
I am lost as to what people are doing here.
That makes me feel sad. :<
However, in all honesty, I don't really like 'Cubi or dragons... but I do admire the brutal efficiency. It is a well used tactic, just ask the English monarchs of history, the reigning mafia bosses, Stalin, and any others that rule by force and treachery. If a member of the rival family still exists, they can some day rise to topple you or your dynasty. Eliminate all and you insure that at least they will not be a potential threat seeking revenge.
Quote from: Drathorin on May 16, 2009, 03:23:58 PM
A personal tactic of mine
If artillery doesn't solve the problem, you aren't using enough. :C
It may also mean that you are firing on a defiladed position. In that case, you need to move your artillery.
Edit:
Air power is useful but short and medium range ballistic missiles are a much more difficult target for anti-aircraft artillery.
If you can locate the artillery then air support wins. You can have all the artillery you want, I concentrate on air superiority.
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Quote from: Drathorin on May 16, 2009, 03:23:58 PM
A personal tactic of mine
If artillery doesn't solve the problem, you aren't using enough. :C
It may also mean that you are firing on a defiladed position. In that case, you need to move your artillery.
You Arent' using enough!
Quote from: Azlan on May 16, 2009, 04:06:24 PM
However, in all honesty, I don't really like 'Cubi or dragons... but I do admire the brutal efficiency. It is a well used tactic, just ask the English monarchs of history, the reigning mafia bosses, Stalin, and any others that rule by force and treachery.
How ever when the figure head of those types of groups falls often so does their empire (Alexander the great and Ivan the terrible come to mind)
Quote from: Azlan on May 16, 2009, 04:40:48 PM
If you can locate the artillery then air support wins. You can have all the artillery you want, I concentrate on air superiority.
*gives Azlan cookie* :mowcookie
That's right even AAA fails when air power is used right.
Quote from: Caswin on May 16, 2009, 03:32:47 PM
I am lost as to what people are doing here.
That makes me feel sad. :<
Explanation: Well, Yugo noticed that Azlan's as unapologetic as ever for his pretentious and inflammatory behavior in past threads, and I noticed that Azlan was making fun of some trolls we've had on the forum who get their panties in a twist over
fictional races.I think the latter thread should be in the Mine somewhere. Oh god it was awful.