Heh, musical lyrics for the win.
Nothing better then pointing out the obvious Dan. >:3
But the obvious is all that there is!
I mean, does Dan know exactly what being in the presence of Cyra really means?
After all... we haven't exactly seen him taking any interest in being a 'Cubi...
It may be obvious, but it isn't sufficiently emphasized! He weighs less than just one of them, they're like Z cups from where he's standing!
...And is that outfit Amazon style?
D: Well, that's about as much as expected from Dan.
I love Cyra's reaction. So blase.
Also, Amber is back to the funny! Yay funny!
ZOMG ITS CYRAZILLA D:
This has me wondering, is this actual size or just dream size? I would assume its just because he's dreaming, but you never know. And at least she has a sense of humor.
Quote from: Teh_Hobo on May 11, 2009, 12:55:51 AM
ZOMG ITS CYRAZILLA D:
This has me wondering, is this actual size or just dream size? I would assume its just because he's dreaming, but you never know. And at least she has a sense of humor.
Her dreamscape size reflects her vast... power. Or this is just how important she is to the clan. Or she could actually be that size. I suppose we'll have to wait for a face-to-face real life meeting between the two to know for sure. Or Amber tells us.
Okay, so instead of shinking down to about his size, Dream-Cyra just lies down so they can "talk" about face to face.
I put talk in quotes because Dream-Cyra has no speech bubbles, in effect, she's using telepathy. It's all just a dream anyway, so what the hey.
Quote from: Jairus on May 11, 2009, 12:57:31 AM
Quote from: Teh_Hobo on May 11, 2009, 12:55:51 AM
ZOMG ITS CYRAZILLA D:
This has me wondering, is this actual size or just dream size? I would assume its just because he's dreaming, but you never know. And at least she has a sense of humor.
Her dreamscape size reflects her vast... power. Or this is just how important she is to the clan. Or she could actually be that size. I suppose we'll have to wait for a face-to-face real life meeting between the two to know for sure. Or Amber tells us.
The flashback in Abel's story don't imply such a size for Siar, so I think Cyra is taking full advantage of the dream environment. It's easy to see advantages to her agenda (whatever it is) to impressing Dan
a lot.
Nor is Fa'lina scaled up, overall.
Dan! Watch your language around the ladies. >:[
With regards,
Ted
Hahahaha
So much for Dan not saying anything rude right away. But she expected that I guess.
I have to agree with Jairus on the various why's of Cyra's size in Dan's dreamscape.
It's also nice to see that, despite being the head of a clan that feeds best through pain, her demeanor on first impression is neither arrogant nor aggressive. While Cyra may or may not actually be either of those, if she is, she can obviously set them aside as needed (unless it all got channelled into her dreamscape size so she could look down without looking down, so to speak...).
To be fair to Dan, he's probably not thinking about Cyra's bust just now. For one thing, his line of sight is clearly focused on her ears. Must be an ear-man... >:3
Also: I find myself liking Dan's shirt. He looks good in green, and it's nice to see him in other colors. Granted, he may have had that shirt (and others) for quite a while already without anyone knowing about them, since (until recently) the robe he got from Wildy covered so much. He can't have gone shirtless under that thing all the time, right?
Oh, wait... We're talking about Captain Stubborn here, of course he could... :P
Quote from: inuhanyo on May 11, 2009, 01:05:35 AM
Quote from: Jairus on May 11, 2009, 12:57:31 AM
Quote from: Teh_Hobo on May 11, 2009, 12:55:51 AM
ZOMG ITS CYRAZILLA D:
This has me wondering, is this actual size or just dream size? I would assume its just because he's dreaming, but you never know. And at least she has a sense of humor.
Her dreamscape size reflects her vast... power. Or this is just how important she is to the clan. Or she could actually be that size. I suppose we'll have to wait for a face-to-face real life meeting between the two to know for sure. Or Amber tells us.
The flashback in Abel's story don't imply such a size for Siar, so I think Cyra is taking full advantage of the dream environment. It's easy to see advantages to her agenda (whatever it is) to impressing Dan a lot.
Nor is Fa'lina scaled up, overall.
However, if you look at the latest Abel's Story, Siar's head appears to be about the same size as a Dragon's... which would mean that she was probably also the same approximate size as the dragon. Also, Cubi are shape shifters. And due to the fact that Tri-wings are very powerful, they probably can ignore the "law" of conservation of mass... because we all know that when magic and the laws of physics and other parts of the natural worlds face off, magic usually does not loose. So in theory they can be both really huge and "normal" size. There are advantages of both sizes, and the particular Tri-wing would choose their size dependant of the situation.
We don't have scale referents for either Siar or Hizell. We do for three dragons in canon, the red dragon that Dan owed money too, Pyroduck vs Abel, and Shannah. Mapping in Dream-Cyra in comparison, and Dream-Cyra has a significant advantage.
I don't know that the real Cyra could scale herself up so large. But it's a dream, so "reality" restrictions don't apply.
Notice how the background has gone to outdoors, sunny sky with some fluffy clouds. Cyra is effectively in control of this dream. I hope she is nearly as benevolent towards Dan as she seems.
Something tells me that Cyra has something special in plan for Dan.
... ...That or he's one lucky guy to see such an impressive pair up close... in both size and shape.
Quote from: Madmann135 on May 11, 2009, 02:10:05 AM
Something tells me that Cyra has something special in plan for Dan.
... ...That or he's one lucky guy to see such an impressive pair up close... in both size and shape.
Dude... she's like, his great-great-great-great-+++++-grandmother.
although Dan is facing the head clan he seems to be calmer than I expected. I would have expected Dan to be tail puffed at least. I think Cyra is emotion jamming him so he doesn't ether go into a panicked state or in idiot fan state (anyone ever having met a clebrity knows this, you kinda go stupid because you don't know what to say. and don't want to be raving fan idiot)
I too believe she is just boasting, by appearing larger than life in his mind. You started talking comparison with other great clan leaders, but you are forgetting we have seen one- Fa'lina. And appart from all the boob jokes, she is pretty big compared to others around her, but not nearly Godzilla size.
Dan is once again as smoot as sandpaper. I would yell mom but he has to talk about her size :B
Quote from: Fex on May 11, 2009, 03:17:35 AM
Dan is once again as smoot as sandpaper. I would yell mom but he has to talk about her size :B
She does have rather large baubles.
Quote from: Jairus on May 11, 2009, 02:18:36 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on May 11, 2009, 02:10:05 AM
Something tells me that Cyra has something special in plan for Dan.
... ...That or he's one lucky guy to see such an impressive pair up close... in both size and shape.
Dude... she's like, his great-great-great-great-+++++-grandmother.
It's still pretty hot. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_714.php)
Did we, or Did we call this happening?
Quote from: Kipiru on May 11, 2009, 02:49:32 AM
I too believe she is just boasting, by appearing larger than life in his mind. You started talking comparison with other great clan leaders, but you are forgetting we have seen one- Fa'lina. And appart from all the boob jokes, she is pretty big compared to others around her, but not nearly Godzilla size.
But Fa'lina is the only one left in her clan. Might it be possible that Clan Founder size is also based off of how large the clan is?
Quote from: Madmann135 on May 11, 2009, 02:10:05 AM
Something tells me that Cyra has something special in plan for Dan.
... ...That or he's one lucky guy to see such an impressive pair up close... in both size and shape.
Yes, those ears
are impressive! :3
And I stand by my earlier remark because Dan's line of sight is
clearly aimed upwards towards those blue furred shells rather than down at her cleavage... >:3
Quote from: Terrion on May 11, 2009, 05:32:16 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on May 11, 2009, 02:10:05 AM
Something tells me that Cyra has something special in plan for Dan.
... ...That or he's one lucky guy to see such an impressive pair up close... in both size and shape.
Yes, those ears are impressive! :3
And I stand by my earlier remark because Dan's line of sight is clearly aimed upwards towards those blue furred shells rather than down at her cleavage... >:3
You know, He could... oh i don't know, be starting at here freaking pure white eyes?
Oh yes Dan, I'm sure she never knew that...
/Sarcasm.
3 succesive pages quite quickly...I haven't had time to react.
Amazing is all I can say.
And just like my friends do to carry their phones, I bet Cyra could carry someone in that cleavage...
I must be the only one who didn't even think about boobage at all. x-x
Anyways, the way Cyra says she "gets that alot" makes me think that she really is that big in real life (not just dream), or at least shape-shifts into this huge form a lot. I mean, it seems weird she'd say she gets Dan's reaction a lot if she's just doing this in a dream... unless that she never really comes out in person and keeps up with her clan via dream-state.
Also, somewhere, wasn't it mentioned that there are four 'Cubi gods? Cyra's white eyes, powerful voice and gianganticness.... maybe she's one of the Gods(esses)
Quote from: Jairus on May 11, 2009, 02:18:36 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on May 11, 2009, 02:10:05 AM
Something tells me that Cyra has something special in plan for Dan.
... ...That or he's one lucky guy to see such an impressive pair up close... in both size and shape.
Dude... she's like, his great-great-great-great-+++++-grandmother.
But she does have a perky wingspan.
QuoteYou're... freaking huge!
That means you have freaking huge guts!
ok, the pun had to be made :P
ps,: silly dan, this is a dream, you can be as huge as you want
ps.2: we don't know her age, nor Destania's. She could be just his grandmother
Quote from: Naldru on May 11, 2009, 07:13:28 AM
Quote from: Jairus on May 11, 2009, 02:18:36 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on May 11, 2009, 02:10:05 AM
Something tells me that Cyra has something special in plan for Dan.
... ...That or he's one lucky guy to see such an impressive pair up close... in both size and shape.
Dude… she's like, his great-great-great-great-+++++-grandmother.
But she does have a perky wingspan.
Well that might not mater because cubi are magical creches like dragons and dragon have kids with there oun sister and brathers with no problems there blood relation might not matter. As for the size thing again it could be the same way as dragons the older the biger.
I just noticed something amusing from DMFA1000-1001.... there's nothing holding that bra thing on Cyra.
If you look at 1000 it looks like it's being held up across the back. Look at 1001.. it's not.
Masters of defying physics indeed.
Quote from: inuhanyo on May 11, 2009, 01:05:35 AMThe flashback in Abel's story don't imply such a size for Siar, so I think Cyra is taking full advantage of the dream environment. It's easy to see advantages to her agenda (whatever it is) to impressing Dan a lot.
Siar is shown to be maybe half as big as the dragon she's fighting with.
Here is the image of Abel and Pyroduck, to give an example of scale. It is probably safe to assume Hizell is a much bigger dragon. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_683.php)
Assuming that a dragon capable of threatening a clan leader is going to be bigger than most, that would make her a pretty big cubi.
Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 11, 2009, 09:14:37 AM
I just noticed something amusing from DMFA1000-1001.... there's nothing holding that bra thing on Cyra.
If you look at 1000 it looks like it's being held up across the back. Look at 1001.. it's not.
Masters of defying physics indeed.
Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see anything fastening that bra other than a ring connecting the left and right cup. And her arm blocks any view of that same spot in the newest page. There's also the strap around her neck, which is visible in both pages.
Quote from: Goatmon on May 11, 2009, 09:14:48 AM
Assuming that a dragon capable of threatening a clan leader is going to be bigger than most, that would make her a pretty big cubi.
Well, if you were being attacked by a dragon in full form, I suspect you'd probably want to make yourself big enough that it couldn't just stomp on you. (Which also raises the horrible possibility of how the rest of Clan Siar died, and the question of just exactly what she was trying to do by summoning them all).
EDIT:
To summarise, it's not clear whether Tri-wings are naturally massive. Given their powers, they probably choose a size most appropriate to their audience or whatever they're doing at the time.
Quote from: Jairus on May 11, 2009, 02:18:36 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on May 11, 2009, 02:10:05 AM
Something tells me that Cyra has something special in plan for Dan.
... ...That or he's one lucky guy to see such an impressive pair up close... in both size and shape.
Dude... she's like, his great-great-great-great-+++++-grandmother.
...And? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave) (I'm sorry, it had to be done :< )
Quote from: Goatmon on May 11, 2009, 09:18:51 AM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 11, 2009, 09:14:37 AM
I just noticed something amusing from DMFA1000-1001.... there's nothing holding that bra thing on Cyra.
If you look at 1000 it looks like it's being held up across the back. Look at 1001.. it's not.
Masters of defying physics indeed.
Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see anything fastening that bra other than a ring connecting the left and right cup. And her arm blocks any view of that same spot in the newest page. There's also the strap around her neck, which is visible in both pages.
That's not a connecting strap, that's a decorative collar. Given the design of Cyra's top, and her sheer size (and therefore the equivilent mass of her bosom), coupled with the lack of noticable straps...
That thing is held in place either by magic or sheer will-power! No clip or glue would hold that much fabric in place on a coninuously shifting mass of those proportions while under the tention shown with the ring connection without
some sort of major support. And since the top does not continue across the back, magic or a similar ability must be involved. That being said, it's hardly a big deal as the outfit seams to be relatively sedate by cubi standards.
I've more respect for Dan for maintaining eye contact (except I still think he's looking at her ears...) >:3
Geezus, did you see the size of those headwings? Which is clearly what Dan is looking at. :>
I suppose this could go onto the other thread too, but I've been thinking.
For Cyra to appear in Dan's dreams, we really need three things to come together.
1. Cyra has to want to appear in Dan's dreams.
2. Cyra has to be able to locate Dan in some fashion.
3. Cyra has to have the ability to enter dreams, possibly from long distance.
Number 3 seems to exist, and really, for a tri-wing 'cubi, would you expect anything else? Now, it's possible that Cyra has been keeping tabs on Dan, and only just now decided to intervene, but that doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, he got beaten up by a demon, and managed to get his friends to heal him up and bring him to safety. At this point, what's at stake is his pride, and I for one cannot see a super-powerful clan leader going too out of her way to salve his ego.
Which leaves #2, that Cyra could not locate, or perhaps was even unaware of Dan's existence until recently. Super-Powerful 'Cubi are not omniscient. Fa'Lina only was able to discern Dan's location because Aaryaana (Sp?) sent her the SAIA registration forms. Now, if you look at what changed on Dan between then and now, one of the more significant happenings has been the emergence of a little clan symbol on his right shoulder. It's possible, even probable, that those symbols serve as some sort of connecting force between Clan members, possibly how Siar was able to contact her clan members in the other comic.
Which leads me to one biggie for Amber. Why are you hiding Dan's right shoulder so we can't see the clan symbol? Is there some dark, hideous secret there?
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 11, 2009, 10:30:54 AM
Now, if you look at what changed on Dan between then and now, one of the more significant happenings has been the emergence of a little clan symbol on his right shoulder. It's possible, even probable, that those symbols serve as some sort of connecting force between Clan members, possibly how Siar was able to contact her clan members in the other comic.
Well, she said "Finally meet you", which implies that she's known about him for some time - not that she's suddenly realised he exists. Now it might well be that she couldn't do this trick until he had the clan mark, but to me that would also imply that she would be able to intervene in the fight.
I suspect that there's another factor too - she can't communicate in this manner unless Dan's mind is susceptible to it, which would happen when he's asleep. That wouldn't have been the case for Siar and Aniz, though I imagine you'd probably not want to appear in everyone's dreams while the dragon is still trying to kill you... a different technique would be more appropriate.
But yeah, you may well be onto something here.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 11, 2009, 10:30:54 AM
Which leads me to one biggie for Amber. Why are you hiding Dan's right shoulder so we can't see the clan symbol? Is there some dark, hideous secret there?
He didn't seem to have it in strip 998.
Quote from: Ghostwish on May 11, 2009, 09:45:40 AM
Geezus, did you see the size of those headwings? Which is clearly what Dan is looking at. :>
Those headwings are as big as Dan's backwings. She could squish him whit one of those no problem :U.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 11, 2009, 10:43:13 AM
[He didn't seem to have it in strip 998.
He didn't have his headwings in 998 either. I kind of thought it was a memory, or possiby a projection of himself as an adventerur and not as a 'cubi.
Quote from: Garsemor on May 11, 2009, 10:48:15 AM
Quote from: Ghostwish on May 11, 2009, 09:45:40 AM
Geezus, did you see the size of those headwings? Which is clearly what Dan is looking at. :>
Those headwings are as big as Dan's backwings. She could squish him whit one of those no problem :U.
There are some deaths that are entirely acceptable. Getting squished by that impressive set of..'wings' would be fine by me.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 11, 2009, 09:22:35 AM
(Which also raises the horrible possibility of how the rest of Clan Siar died, and the question of just exactly what she was trying to do by summoning them all).
I'll take "Trying to Kill it" for 300 Alex
Quote from: Drathorin on May 11, 2009, 11:09:15 AM
I'll take "Trying to Kill it" for 300 Alex
That would be a very much like trying to kill someone in full platemail by summoning about 60 minature poodles.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 11, 2009, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on May 11, 2009, 11:09:15 AM
I'll take "Trying to Kill it" for 300 Alex
That would be a very much like trying to kill someone in full platemail by summoning about 60 minature poodles.
If they can bite at the knee joints........
Quote from: Jairus on May 11, 2009, 02:18:36 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on May 11, 2009, 02:10:05 AM
Something tells me that Cyra has something special in plan for Dan.
... ...That or he's one lucky guy to see such an impressive pair up close... in both size and shape.
Dude... she's like, his great-great-great-great-+++++-grandmother.
If it ain't illegal by law anymore, and by that big a degree it most certainly isn't, then what's the problem? =)
is it wrong for me to notice Clan Siar's predominant color?
-->Hint (http://bastardlogic.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/the-redshirt-curse.jpg)<--
Quote from: Turnsky on May 11, 2009, 11:32:01 AM
is it wrong for me to notice Clan Siar's predominant color?
-->Hint (http://bastardlogic.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/the-redshirt-curse.jpg)<--
Ooh... nice leap of logic.
Quote from: Jairus on May 11, 2009, 02:18:36 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on May 11, 2009, 02:10:05 AM
Something tells me that Cyra has something special in plan for Dan.
... ...That or he's one lucky guy to see such an impressive pair up close... in both size and shape.
Dude... she's like, his great-great-great-great-+++++-grandmother.
Not necessarily. Could just be his grandmother. Afterall, Dee was ~6000 when she had Dan. We have no age on Cyra herself, but it's not inconceivable that she ascended to tri-wing sometime in those 6000 years but had some children herself (including Dee) prior to that. Unless I missed some Word of God on Cyra's actual age :)
Granted, this doesn't change the 'Dude, she's his 'some degree of grandmother' factor :)
Siar's predicament can't count as redshirting. Redshirts are there to die in the place of an important character to undrscore that an encounter is serious. But if Siar herself dies....... That's more of a last stand and the army dies too.
*nods*
Quote from: Turnsky on May 11, 2009, 11:32:01 AM
is it wrong for me to notice Clan Siar's predominant color?
-->Hint (http://bastardlogic.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/the-redshirt-curse.jpg)<--
*snnnnnrk* I did not notice that.
Okay, I give up. What's the thread's title a reference to?
Quote from: Aganerral on May 11, 2009, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: Jairus on May 11, 2009, 02:18:36 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on May 11, 2009, 02:10:05 AM
Something tells me that Cyra has something special in plan for Dan.
... ...That or he's one lucky guy to see such an impressive pair up close... in both size and shape.
Dude... she's like, his great-great-great-great-+++++-grandmother.
Not necessarily. Could just be his grandmother. Afterall, Dee was ~6000 when she had Dan. We have no age on Cyra herself, but it's not inconceivable that she ascended to tri-wing sometime in those 6000 years but had some children herself (including Dee) prior to that. Unless I missed some Word of God on Cyra's actual age :)
Granted, this doesn't change the 'Dude, she's his 'some degree of grandmother' factor :)
Yup.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 11, 2009, 11:45:31 AM
Siar's predicament can't count as redshirting. Redshirts are there to die in the place of an important character to undrscore that an encounter is serious. But if Siar herself dies....... That's more of a last stand and the army dies too.
*nods*
Well... she is a minor character, related to the others. If she dies, it does make the encounter/situation much more serious for Aniz, and sets him down the path to where he is now. In a way, she is expendable. Siar could have been male, or a dog, or a hyena, or a centaur, or anything else: Siar basically exists to die in battle and leave Aniz alone.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 11, 2009, 10:50:19 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 11, 2009, 10:43:13 AM
[He didn't seem to have it in strip 998.
He didn't have his headwings in 998 either. I kind of thought it was a memory, or possiby a projection of himself as an adventerur and not as a 'cubi.
It's entirely possible that Dan doesn't even realize that his clan mark has appeared. He was sorta busy when it happened, and since then he's been pretty much passed out. Since a dream image is sort of a mental projection of how he thinks he looks, it wouldn't necessarily be there.
Or maybe Amber's showing Dan from the left side just because she's not in the mood to draw the mark :)
Quote from: inuhanyo on May 11, 2009, 01:05:35 AM
Nor is Fa'lina scaled up, overall.
:shapeshifters
That is all.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 11, 2009, 11:45:31 AM
Siar's predicament can't count as redshirting. Redshirts are there to die in the place of an important character to undrscore that an encounter is serious. But if Siar herself dies....... That's more of a last stand and the army dies too.
*nods*
depends on who dies off first.
Hey, guys, I only just realized this- Fa'lina is a member of clan Fa'lina, and Fi's original symbol was Fa'lina. This can lead to all sorts of interesting discussions, like how we can use nouns as adjectives. I was inspired to this by finally realizing that Cyra is a real person and her name is used as an adjective in previous strips.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 11, 2009, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on May 11, 2009, 11:09:15 AM
I'll take "Trying to Kill it" for 300 Alex
That would be a very much like trying to kill someone in full platemail by summoning about 60 minature poodles.
Welcome to Cubi battle strategies? :U
Quote from: Drathorin on May 11, 2009, 12:35:13 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 11, 2009, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on May 11, 2009, 11:09:15 AM
I'll take "Trying to Kill it" for 300 Alex
That would be a very much like trying to kill someone in full platemail by summoning about 60 minature poodles.
Welcome to Cubi battle strategies? :U
AHA! They are masters of the Zerg Rush! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ZergRush)
Or possibly Death of a Thousand Cuts. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeathOfAThousandCuts)
I think she may have wanted to humiliate (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CherryTapping) that dragon maybe?
You know, I'm still of a mind that if they don't fit in one hand, then your headwings are waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too big.
I'm just happy she's not MY grandmother. I would feel so awkward.
"Here honey, have a cookie."
*passes out*
P.S. That Tvtropes place is an interesting site. I think I'll go get lost there for a couple hours.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 11, 2009, 10:50:19 AMQuote from: Tapewolf on May 11, 2009, 10:43:13 AM
[He didn't seem to have it in strip 998.
He didn't have his headwings in 998 either. I kind of thought it was a memory, or possiby a projection of himself as an adventerur and not as a 'cubi.
I think he doesn't even know the clan symbol is there yet. I doubt he'd pay attention to something appearing on his shoulder during a fight, and he passed out shortly after
Quote from: Turnsky on May 11, 2009, 11:32:01 AM
is it wrong for me to notice Clan Siar's predominant color?
-->Hint (http://bastardlogic.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/the-redshirt-curse.jpg)<--
I think that it's more of an issue that red and blue were the colors that Amber used for the headwings (and other body parts) of Aniz and Destania. She then carried the color scheme to the clan leaders. Red and blue, two colors that go well together.
Edit:
I suspect that Cyra and Fa'Lina are pleased that Marks and Spencer changed their policy (http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/2009/05/07/20090507ODDbra-pricing0507-ON.html).
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 11, 2009, 10:30:54 AM
At this point, what's at stake is his pride, and I for one cannot see a super-powerful clan leader going too out of her way to salve his ego.
Which leaves #2, that Cyra could not locate, or perhaps was even unaware of Dan's existence until recently. Super-Powerful 'Cubi are not omniscient. Fa'Lina only was able to discern Dan's location because Aaryaana (Sp?) sent her the SAIA registration forms. Now, if you look at what changed on Dan between then and now, one of the more significant happenings has been the emergence of a little clan symbol on his right shoulder. It's possible, even probable, that those symbols serve as some sort of connecting force between Clan members, possibly how Siar was able to contact her clan members in the other comic.
I would suspect that Cyra has know of Dan's existence right after or possibly before he was born. Any good clan leader, IMO, would want to keep tabs on the rest of the clan to keep track on how they are doing. As for knowing where he is at the time... you may be correct in that the clan symbols serve as a link to the rest of the clan.
As for why approach him now... yes, his pride has been damaged. And no, I don't think that Cyra will try to help heal his injured ego. But when someones pride has been that severely damaged, it is also the best time to talk/guide/manipulate them because they will listen. Usually the best time to help correct someones mistake in whatever type of form, if after they fail. Because until they fail, so many people have their prides and egos in the way of properly receiving good advise on how to do <fill in activity here> better.
Quote from: Kenway975 on May 11, 2009, 03:21:03 PM
I would suspect that Cyra has know of Dan's existence right after or possibly before he was born. Any good clan leader, IMO, would want to keep tabs on the rest of the clan to keep track on how they are doing. As for knowing where he is at the time... you may be correct in that the clan symbols serve as a link to the rest of the clan.
Based on what, pray tell? Fa'Lina also seems to be taking quite an interest in Dan's prolonged survival, given that she basically dragooned Abel into babysitting/bodyguarding him against the chance that a Dragon will show up to do Dan in, and there's certainly no indication that
she knew anything about Dan before she got the SAIA application.
Right now, we know almost zero about what a 'Cubi clan founder can and cannot do. Yes, she might have some sort of mystical connection to her clan, but then again, those clan markings might just be some genetic oddity. On a practical level, to keep tabs on Dan would necessitate either some sort of magical ability to divine his location and activities, or some sort of more mundane informant keeping her in touch with things.
The spy option seems a bit..... incongruent with Amber's style, and while Dan *is* at an inn, I get the impression that his condition is kept pretty much under wraps. So far, the list of people who know Dan is hurt are Dan, Aliph, Regina, Lorenda, Kria, Alexsi, Jyrras, Abel, and Fi, at least with regards to 100% accuracy. It seems reasonable that they wouldn't be blathering this to whatever customers are around, but even if we assume that people like Pyroduck or Mab know about Dan's injury, I find it hard to swallow that any of them would be in contact with the Clan founder and not tell Dan about it.
As for magic, unless it's some sort of passive "I know everything about my clan" effect, I'm not sure how Cyra would even begin to know to start looking for anything. It would be a mite ridiculous if a clan founder got a little
ping anytime someone was born destined to carry his/her clan marking. I still think that the clan marking carries some sort of bond, or power, and isn't just some genetic marker. I mean, why don't they appear at birth, and only in response to using a certain amount of magic?
Well, since clan-members show a reaction if their leader is offed (No more tentacle-heads and probably loss of power), it stands to reason that vice versa the leader can sense when a member of their clan gets his/her @ss handed to them. :P
I think Cyra watched (more like sensing his 'energy/whatever' in the back of her mind) Dan from afar waiting for the right time to introduce herself. :rolleyes
Quote from: Jairus on May 11, 2009, 11:47:28 AMOkay, I give up. What's the thread's title a reference to?
Christopher Walken vs. Cyra?
I'd sure as Hell go with the Walken. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMZwZiU0kKs)
I imagined shortly after Jairus asked about it, Christopher Walken flying round Cyra's head inside the dream. Just like an annoying bug. :3
FYI, for Jairus and future viewers, The thread title is in response to the page header Amber put up, "Listen to sound of my voice. You can check it all out, its my weapon of choice."
I have no idea why she put that their....
Quote from: Gamma on May 11, 2009, 09:05:10 PM
I imagined shortly after Jairus asked about it, Christopher Walken flying round Cyra's head inside the dream. Just like an annoying bug. :3
FYI, for Jairus and future viewers, The thread title is in response to the page header Amber put up, "Listen to sound of my voice. You can check it all out, its my weapon of choice."
I have no idea why she put that their....
Given her size she would just eat him.
(No clue who the guy is thoe)
Quote from: GundamDragon on May 11, 2009, 09:10:31 PM
Quote from: Gamma on May 11, 2009, 09:05:10 PM
I imagined shortly after Jairus asked about it, Christopher Walken flying round Cyra's head inside the dream. Just like an annoying bug. :3
FYI, for Jairus and future viewers, The thread title is in response to the page header Amber put up, "Listen to sound of my voice. You can check it all out, its my weapon of choice."
I have no idea why she put that their....
Given her size she would just eat him.
(No clue who the guy is thoe)
Bio for Christopher Walken (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000686/)
Eh, "You're freakin' huge!" isn't as poetic as, say, "How great thou art!" but it's the thought that counts...
Quote from: Attic Rat on May 11, 2009, 11:33:13 PM
Eh, "You're freakin' huge!" isn't as poetic as, say, "How great thou art!" but it's the thought that counts...
Ah, but if he said it like that, Cyra wouldn't have been able to segue into a bust-related pun. If Cyra's in on Destania's intentions, I'm sure she's met Biggs...
Quote from: Tycoon on May 11, 2009, 07:54:49 PM
Christopher Walken vs. Cyra?
I'd sure as Hell go with the Walken. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMZwZiU0kKs)
Be aware that your link doesn't work in Europe. When I think of Christopher Walken,
The Dead Zone comes first and Archangel Gabriel from
The Prophecy comes second. But I doubt it's either of those.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 12, 2009, 04:05:12 AM
Quote from: Tycoon on May 11, 2009, 07:54:49 PM
Christopher Walken vs. Cyra?
I'd sure as Hell go with the Walken. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMZwZiU0kKs)
Be aware that your link doesn't work in Europe. When I think of Christopher Walken, The Dead Zone comes first and Archangel Gabriel from The Prophecy comes second. But I doubt it's either of those.
Fatboy Slim: "weapon of choice"
Nah, not Walken.
Better choice: David Carradine, "Kill Bill". :3
The size of Cyra is probably directly proportional to her ego, she probably thinks she's being modest appearing in this matter.
Quote from: Alondro on May 12, 2009, 10:17:25 AM
Nah, not Walken.
Better choice: David Carradine, "Kill Bill". :3
I just saw those movies over the weekend. And I agree on Cyra's perky "wingspan".
Quote from: Alondro on May 12, 2009, 10:17:25 AM
Nah, not Walken.
Better choice: David Carradine, "Kill Bill". :3
Better yet Burt Gumer from temmers lol
Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on May 12, 2009, 07:48:55 PM
Quote from: Alondro on May 12, 2009, 10:17:25 AM
Nah, not Walken.
Better choice: David Carradine, "Kill Bill". :3
I just saw those movies over the weekend. And I agree on Cyra's perky "wingspan".
Perky has to be the worst spelling error I have ever seen. The proper spelling is "awe-inspiring."
Perhaps Dan doesn't even know who Cyra is? After all, he might know he's from Clan Cyra (although I doubt he'd remember it), but I'm fairly sure no one ever told him that clans take their names from the name of the clan Founder.... ^.^
Quote from: bdplague on May 12, 2009, 10:45:00 PM
Perhaps Dan doesn't even know who Cyra is? After all, he might know he's from Clan Cyra (although I doubt he'd remember it), but I'm fairly sure no one ever told him that clans take their names from the name of the clan Founder.... ^.^
I'm pretty sure Dan hasn't had the orientation on Clans, Clan Founders, and his being of Clan Cyra.
Fi has commented on "our Clan mark", and DP mentioned that Dan was of "Cyra's ilk" (but Dan was kind of busy bleeding at that point), but he hasn't had time to put all of this together.
We'll see how much orientation he gets from Cyra in 1002. :) I'm sure he'll pay
her much better attention than he did Abel.
Fa'lina had a file on Dan, before she sent Fi to bring him to SAIA, it's quite possible she shared this information with Cyra, for any number of reasons. It's also possible that she got much of the information
from Cyra.
Quote from: bdplague on May 12, 2009, 10:45:00 PM
Perhaps Dan doesn't even know who Cyra is? After all, he might know he's from Clan Cyra (although I doubt he'd remember it), but I'm fairly sure no one ever told him that clans take their names from the name of the clan Founder.... ^.^
He's been told twice, at least. Firstly with the Doctor, and with a reminder from Dark Peg (though he was dying at the time so that might not count).
However, he did manage to find Destania's book - and from what Amber was saying about the book in Abel's Story, they seem to be organised by Clan. 'Course, he might have asked the librarian or something. (Was he supposed to have removed the book from the premises?)
I just realized something: Cyra's headwings are the same size as Dan's normal ones. So maybe that's how one becomes a Tri-Wing, cutting off the headwings of an existing Tri-Wing. No wonder it has a high fatality rating. :mowninja