what a great comeback I'll have to use it
FIRST POST!
He may be telling Wildy to drop it, but I still see it as friendly banter. As he said, he's new to the concept, and taking a analytical approach to his orientation. This still leaves him open to being merely confused rather than one way or the other.
EDIT: OK, I was beat to the punch. go ahead and delete this thread, Mods.
He may be telling Wildy to drop it, but I still see it as friendly banter. As he said, he's new to the concept. And since he's taking an analytical approach to his orientation, this still leaves him open to being merely confused or bi- rather than one way or the other.
there are totally some banter options there!!! But I'm still largely convinced he's swinging one-way on the voltmeter-scale!!!
Quote from: AmigaDragon on May 02, 2009, 03:36:17 AM
EDIT: OK, I was beat to the punch. go ahead and delete this thread, Mods.
Why would we want to do that? I mean, you titled your thread correctly... ;-]
Wildy ALWAYS gets the best facial expressions. :veryevil
I also applaud Jyrras for being able to keep a serious face when saying that, because if I ever say it, I'd be frothing at the mouth...Maybe...
It's actually nice having a gay character that isn't all cliche and "fabulously" gay.
Quote from: Brownie on May 02, 2009, 05:49:40 AM
Wildy ALWAYS gets the best facial expressions. :veryevil
Agree
That isn't good. While Abel and Wildy probably aren't going to be best buddies for a bit (see 694), Jyrras has effectively transferred the very thoughts he doesn't want Abel to read into yet another unshielded mind.
Somehow, I don't see Abel probing around Wildy too much, or even hanging around her. After the events leading up to the twink territory expidition, I kind of see them staying out of each other's way.
Plus, I'm pretty sure Abel has figured it out already.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 02, 2009, 06:33:27 AM
That isn't good. While Abel and Wildy probably aren't going to be best buddies for a bit (see 694), Jyrras has effectively transferred the very thoughts he doesn't want Abel to read into yet another unshielded mind.
My bet is Abel already knows, even without thought-reading. You can read Jyrras's face like a book, man.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 02, 2009, 06:33:27 AM
That isn't good. While Abel and Wildy probably aren't going to be best buddies for a bit (see 694), Jyrras has effectively transferred the very thoughts he doesn't want Abel to read into yet another unshielded mind.
I'm tempted to side with Lucheek: I doubt he needs mindreading to know that. And after that kick, I doubt that Abel will feel like going near Wildy's mind anytime soon, anyway :P
(edited to correct initial reading comprehension fail)
Heheeee, looks like Wildy is a JyrBel shipper.
I wonder if Wildy will notice that Jy seems a bit more confident. Old Jy would have blushed or something. New Jy has a witty comeback!
Also, I love his reply. :)
Quote from: Lucheek on May 02, 2009, 07:56:00 AM
My bet is Abel already knows, even without thought-reading. You can read Jyrras's face like a book, man.
And it is in large print for the visually impaired.
Edit:
Regarding hints about the nature of the :hug
Jyrras/Abel relationship :hug.
This sequence and the look on Abel's face led me to think that he knows about the crush. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_862.php)
This one showed interesting signs of friendliness. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_647.php)
This one made me wonder. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_648.php)
I will add more later as I find them.
Quote from: Pagan on May 02, 2009, 08:14:08 AM
Heheeee, looks like Wildy is a JyrBel shipper.
See, even Wildy is on our side!
Quote from: Lucheek on May 02, 2009, 07:56:00 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 02, 2009, 06:33:27 AM
That isn't good. While Abel and Wildy probably aren't going to be best buddies for a bit (see 694), Jyrras has effectively transferred the very thoughts he doesn't want Abel to read into yet another unshielded mind.
My bet is Abel already knows, even without thought-reading. You can read Jyrras's face like a book, man.
Agreed. Mind-shielded he may be, but he's not hiding his feelings all that well.
Thread number's wrong. 996, not 995.
Meh, don't have much to say about this comic. Good facial expression and comeback, though.
Wildy, translated: "So are you gay, or are you just gay for Abel?"
Jyrass, translated: "I don't know."
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on May 02, 2009, 11:59:09 AM
Thread number's wrong. 996, not 995.
Fixed.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 02, 2009, 06:42:36 AM
I'm pretty sure Abel has figured it out already.
Most likely, to be honest. Though given his blunt manner previously, I find it a little difficult to work out why he hasn't confronted Jyrras about it himself, in the same kind of way he got Dan to.
The question then becomes, what will Jyrras do when he realises that he's exposing his mind by proxy?
Of course Jy doesn't realize that everyone's gay for Abel outside his universe. (Can you tell I enjoy grossly exaggerated hyperbole?) Also I think a certain ferret with a coon tail is jealous or something. I'm sure Amber's working us up to twisting Jy's sense of self AGAIN, frankly it is one of the things I enjoy most about the comic. Also, I'm waiting for the mindscrew, cause the scenes have been pleasantly mundane for a bit.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 02, 2009, 12:10:43 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 02, 2009, 06:42:36 AM
I'm pretty sure Abel has figured it out already.
Most likely, to be honest. Though given his blunt manner previously, I find it a little difficult to work out why he hasn't confronted Jyrras about it himself, in the same kind of way he got Dan to.
The question then becomes, what will Jyrras do when he realises that he's exposing his mind by proxy?
Err, I thought it was already clear that Abel is aware of Jy's crushing on him. And being the resident Jerk with a heart of Gold, he's not abusing said crush. Also, he's cubi, who everyone's gay for... It's not like folks who aren't thoroughly sure of themselves would be repulsed.
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on May 02, 2009, 12:11:35 PM
Err, I thought it was already clear that Abel is aware of Jy's crushing on him.
When?
Quote from: Minishear on May 02, 2009, 12:15:31 PM
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on May 02, 2009, 12:11:35 PM
Err, I thought it was already clear that Abel is aware of Jy's crushing on him.
When?
Oh joy, I'm being challenged... Alright hang on...
Quote from: Lucheek on May 02, 2009, 07:56:00 AMMy bet is Abel already knows, even without thought-reading. You can read Jyrras's face like a book, man.
I'll take that bet. Abel isn't used to (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_649.php) working with Beings, and has become rather dependent upon using his Cubi powers to manipulate people. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't know the first thing about reading social ques. Or did you all think the magic empathy was the only trait he was taking for granted?
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on May 02, 2009, 12:17:17 PM
Quote from: Minishear on May 02, 2009, 12:15:31 PM
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on May 02, 2009, 12:11:35 PM
Err, I thought it was already clear that Abel is aware of Jy's crushing on him.
When?
Oh joy, I'm being challenged... Alright hang on...
Okay, probably not perfect but my first hints of Abel recognizing the crush are this sequence, though I am not going by text what so ever 862 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_862.php) through 864 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_864.php).
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on May 02, 2009, 12:35:35 PM
Okay, probably not perfect but my first hints of Abel recognizing the crush are this sequence, though I am not going by text what so ever 862 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_862.php) through 864 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_864.php).
As mentioned, it really hinges upon Abel's ability to understand Beings in a social context, and without relying on magic. Given that he's "turned being alone into an art" (742) it's not clear that he's up to the task.
Frankly? It's a bit too close to call. I think it could go either way.
While I find the idea of Jyrras being gay no problem, is it possible to argue that he might just be bi for Abel only simply because he's never been able to find the right kind of girl before? (my guess is long term experiences of hugged for being cute is a factor along with being mistaken for being younger than he actually is)
Also, just thinking of Abel himself, has there been any kind of hint that Abel's had a girl/boyfriend in the past, or is that still being speculated?
(if the questions are vaugely off topic, I apologise. I felt I couldn't contribute to the most recent discussion point and the above questions were burning in my mind for an answer)
Why is it that when someone declares they are gay somene says "Oh it's because the haven't found the right guy / girl yet. Or perhaps they are bi"
As I said before, I have no problem with the concept, I'm just wondering.
Seems that 'I'm gay for Abel' has become Canon
I like Jyrras' comeback. Awesome.
Also, one of my friends theorizes Jyrras has a thing for masculine people. Lorenda kind of has that, Dan kind of has that. I'm not sure how Abel fits in. But my friend insists Jyrras will end up with Wildy.
Personally, that last one makes my brain hurt. It'd be kinder to my brain if Jyrras was just gay and that was the end of it.
I think it would be funny if Nutmeg's fay curse also had a "compulsion" attached to it that also affected Jyrras personality. Something like the desire to fight crime dressed as dorthy from the wizard of OZ or a desire to maybe to wash your 20 foot tall Mecha Gryphon while dressed as an apple , or wearing underwear on your head thinking they were goggles or something...I could see this happening to dan for some reason, only replace Dorthy with a Scarecrow, and high heels for bo0ts or something.
That would just be weird, even for this comic.
The confident Jyrras is awsome, but the old non-confident Jyrras will be missed..
Wildy seems quite interested in the idea, wonder how she'll play into the scene.
Quote from: Lowde on May 02, 2009, 05:55:15 AM
It's actually nice having a gay character that isn't all cliche and "fabulously" gay.
Very much Agreed.
Okay, who says "going to the other team"?
Seriously, that's like the second time I've ever heard that expression and had no idea what Wildy was talking about just at first....
But--gotta love Jyrras's use of the language in that last panel! :giggle
Quote from: Baal Hadad on May 03, 2009, 12:05:06 AM
Okay, who says "going to the other team"?
Seriously, that's like the second time I've ever heard that expression and had no idea what Wildy was talking about just at first....
You must get around even less than I do :/
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on May 03, 2009, 12:05:56 AM
Quote from: Baal Hadad on May 03, 2009, 12:05:06 AM
Okay, who says "going to the other team"?
Seriously, that's like the second time I've ever heard that expression and had no idea what Wildy was talking about just at first....
You must get around even less than I do :/
I'd agree with that.
Seriously, though, it's a bizarre expression with unfortunate ramifications.... I'm not blaming Amber, though, but I am blaming whoever originated the expression and the people who use it for real. It makes homosexuality sound like treason.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on May 02, 2009, 09:13:10 PM
I think it would be funny if Nutmeg's fay curse also had a "compulsion" attached to it that also affected Jyrras personality.
That's Albanion's curse (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_805.phpl). Or are you referring to "Rainbows for everyone" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_845.php)?
Edit:
Fixed your link. Hope you don't mind.
-- llearch n'n'daCorna
Quote from: AmigaDragon on May 03, 2009, 12:53:40 AM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on May 02, 2009, 09:13:10 PM
I think it would be funny if Nutmeg's fay curse also had a "compulsion" attached to it that also affected Jyrras personality.
That's Albanion's curse (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_805.php). Or are you referring to "Rainbows for everyone" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_845.php)?
Fixed. Sorry about that....
Quote from: Baal Hadad on May 03, 2009, 12:06:45 AM
Seriously, though, it's a bizarre expression with unfortunate ramifications.... I'm not blaming Amber, though, but I am blaming whoever originated the expression and the people who use it for real. It makes homosexuality sound like treason.
Well...here's another example if you care...
http://gigaville.com/comic.php?id=240
punchline and page title.
Really, it's just an unusual euphemism.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on May 03, 2009, 01:11:27 AM
Quote from: Baal Hadad on May 03, 2009, 12:06:45 AM
Seriously, though, it's a bizarre expression with unfortunate ramifications.... I'm not blaming Amber, though, but I am blaming whoever originated the expression and the people who use it for real. It makes homosexuality sound like treason.
Well...here's another example if you care...
http://gigaville.com/comic.php?id=240
punchline and page title.
Really, it's just an unusual euphemism.
Reason enough not to use it--I wouldn't have gotten what was meant there either. :P
Quote from: Baal Hadad on May 03, 2009, 01:14:28 AM
Reason enough not to use it--I wouldn't have gotten what was meant there either. :P
Heh. The more usual term is "batting for both teams" - with the euphemistic "bat" in there, it makes it more overt, I think.
Of course, there's lots of people who don't get that, and then start using the wrong term; English gets modified, and we all have to live with a pointless, meaningless euphemism...
Quote from: AmigaDragon on May 03, 2009, 12:53:40 AM
That's Albanion's curse (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_805.php). Or are you referring to "Rainbows for everyone" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_845.php)?
Going over that thing with Albanion makes me want to use whatever I need to make him want to die. Or at least cause him eternal pain, suffering, and agony, but either works.
Going over this whole Jy is gay or bi, or bi-curious, and preferably straight... and the euphemisms involved...
just remember, just because you eat a salad doesn't make you a vegetarian :P
Quote from: Basilisk2150 on May 03, 2009, 01:19:06 PM
Going over this whole jay is gay or bi, or bi-curious, and preferably straight... and the euphemisms involved...
just remember, just because you eat a salad doesn't make you a vegetarian :P
Oh, right, Everyone's Gay For Abel and all that. That would kind of skew the results a bit...
BTW, it's
Jy, not
Jay. Let's not drag me and my sexuality into this discussion, okay?
my apologies... the fingers moved faster than the thoughts behind them
Quote from: Minishear on May 02, 2009, 12:15:31 PM
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on May 02, 2009, 12:11:35 PM
Err, I thought it was already clear that Abel is aware of Jy's crushing on him.
When?
I suggest 608 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_608.php)
So he realized before the crush even started? o_o
To be honest I doubt Abel has realized so far, he hasn't had many chances and Jy was kind of covering it up during all contact. After his being used to reading, he'll probably take some more time to figure this one out.
Quote from: Michael Chandra on May 03, 2009, 09:16:52 PM
So he realized before the crush even started? o_o
To be honest I doubt Abel has realized so far, he hasn't had many chances and Jy was kind of covering it up during all contact. After his being used to reading, he'll probably take some more time to figure this one out.
608, 3d panel
Abel: "'Sides. Your thoughts are annoying. ... And why would it be my business to know who the latest poor unwitting sap you have fallen for is ... so Yeah. ... See you around, fluff-tuff."
4th panel
Jyrass: :cvheart
I think Abel saw it coming.
Ahem, Note Jyrass in panel one of #966
Jyrass: "... and now I'm cursed for who knows how long."
Well, this settles the question how Wildy knows about the Fae curse bangles, Jyrass just finished giving her the briefing.