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How do you think Kria and Lorenda will help Dan out?
Let him get at Regina perhaps? but I think letting him wear himself out is best.
Whoops!
Should be #978, shouldn't it? There's already a #976....
EDIT: Never mind. :)
Yes, well if people would learn to title their topics right FROM THE BEGINNING, I wouldn't have to scramble around to quickly do it for them.
Grrr.
There's a slight element of patheticism in that scene, for lack of an appropiate term. Futility, perhaps. He's clawing and flailing about but can't get through the door. It's the sort of thing that makes you want to just pat him on the back, go 'there there'... or maybe it's just me.
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on March 08, 2009, 04:16:07 AM
There's a slight element of patheticism in that scene, for lack of an appropiate term. Futility, perhaps. He's clawing and flailing about but can't get through the door. It's the sort of thing that makes you want to just pat him on the back, go 'there there'... or maybe it's just me.
Anyone would good intentions would...
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on March 08, 2009, 04:16:07 AM
There's a slight element of patheticism in that scene, for lack of an appropiate term. Futility, perhaps. He's clawing and flailing about but can't get through the door. It's the sort of thing that makes you want to just pat him on the back, go 'there there'... or maybe it's just me.
at this point he's prolly far more upset than angry, due being betrayed by Regina in the past, it seems that she really did befriend him in the past, if past comics are anything to go on by.
Is it just me, or is Dan actually leaving claw marks on the invulnerable to physical damage doors!? :erk
BTW: Looks like the walls immediately around those doors are equally resistant, lending credance to the idea that Regina is in a safe room...
Quote from: Terrion on March 08, 2009, 04:31:39 AM
Is it just me, or is Dan actually leaving claw marks on the invulnerable to physical damage doors!? :erk
BTW: Looks like the walls immediately around those doors are equally resistant, lending credance to the idea that Regina is in a safe room...
I was wondering about that, too.
How is Dan putting scratch marks into a door magically reinforced to withstand a demon brouhaha?
Quote from: !KCA on March 08, 2009, 04:37:22 AM
Quote from: Terrion on March 08, 2009, 04:31:39 AM
Is it just me, or is Dan actually leaving claw marks on the invulnerable to physical damage doors!? :erk
BTW: Looks like the walls immediately around those doors are equally resistant, lending credance to the idea that Regina is in a safe room...
I was wondering about that, too. How is Dan putting scratch marks into a door magically reinforced to withstand a demon brouhaha?
Magic, obviously. Or plot-induced super-strength from pure anger.
Need sleep, thenmake post that makes sense.
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on March 08, 2009, 04:16:07 AM
There's a slight element of patheticism in that scene, for lack of an appropiate term. Futility, perhaps. He's clawing and flailing about but can't get through the door. It's the sort of thing that makes you want to just pat him on the back, go 'there there'... or maybe it's just me.
I kinda went 'daww'. :B
Quote from: !KCA on March 08, 2009, 04:37:22 AM
I was wondering about that, too. How is Dan putting scratch marks into a door magically reinforced to withstand a demon brouhaha?
Just because the door is reinforced, doesn't mean the paint is...
And yes, Dan does look kind of pathetic there. I'm agreeing with Turnsky - he's probably gone from rage into melancholy.
What I find most intriguing is the way his wings have shrunk, presumably as mass for the tentacles.
I think Kria is just waiting for Dan to tire himself up to the point when she can try her seductive tactics again, that and she apparently likes watching sweaty men at work! :mowhappy
Quote from: Kipiru on March 08, 2009, 06:28:48 AM
I think Kria is just waiting for Dan to tire himself up to the point when she can try her seductive tactics again, that and she apparently likes watching sweaty men at work! :mowhappy
I doubt he'll be in the right mood for that...
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 08, 2009, 06:33:22 AM
Quote from: Kipiru on March 08, 2009, 06:28:48 AM
I think Kria is just waiting for Dan to tire himself up to the point when she can try her seductive tactics again, that and she apparently likes watching sweaty men at work! :mowhappy
I doubt he'll be in the right mood for that...
Like he was before, but did that stop Kria- Nooo!
Quote from: Kipiru on March 08, 2009, 06:28:48 AM
[...] that and she apparently likes watching sweaty men at work! :mowhappy
That's not how you spell "shirtless"... >:3
Also, I hope Lorenda realises her idea of help might differ in one or two minor respects from Kria's.
Quote from: SpottedKitty on March 08, 2009, 07:34:32 AM
Also, I hope Lorenda realises her idea of help might differ in one or two minor respects from Kria's.
I'm curious as to what kind of help they think he needs. There are a couple of things, which if strung together, suggest that 'Cubi sometimes do just go nuts as some kind of racial quirk. Maybe they know about it and he doesn't?
Quote from: Terrion on March 08, 2009, 04:31:39 AMBTW: Looks like the walls immediately around those doors are equally resistant, lending credance to the idea that Regina is in a safe room...
Or the walls are part of the major building supports, which also were reinforced.
Oooh! His fifth tentacle switches side! First it's on the right, then we can't see exactly, then it's on the left!
If he shapeshifts properly he might be able to wedge the doors open.
Quote from: Michael Chandra on March 08, 2009, 07:47:15 AM
Oooh! His fifth tentacle switches side! First it's on the right, then we can't see exactly, then it's on the left!
Well, it's not conscious. So I'd expect, it not being specific, that which side it's on depends on what he's doing with it. I'd also expect a certain amount of "handedness", or the tentacles on the left being better for brute work and the tentacles on the right for fine work, or vice versa. Theorising wildly, here, mind. Also, Amber has said that Cubi can easily manage 4-5 tentacles, but more than that requires concentration. Which suggests that more than 6 is doable. Or 12. Or however many you want to guess at.
The fact that, of the 5 he has, at least 2 have heads at the moment (although it's possible that
which two keeps changing) is a sign that he's of a powerful clan. If he can get all five going, then I'd guess he'd turn out to be someone that most Cubi would walk wide around...
... since they wouldn't know about his promise to his mother. Speaking of, I wonder when she'll release him from that...
figure since nobody else thought of it..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/catout.jpg)
>:3
Quote from: Turnsky on March 08, 2009, 08:17:36 AM
figure since nobody else thought of it..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/catout.jpg)
>:3
Turnsky quote FTW!
Part of me wonders why Lorenda wants to help Dan, knowing quite well what Dan would do to Regina if he got near her. I know that they don't like each other, but I think that kind of crosses the line.
Does anyone else feel a flashback coming up in the next few comics?
Oh and Turnsky, Have a cookie :)
Quote from: Bluplatespecial on March 08, 2009, 03:54:26 AM
Yes, well if people would learn to title their topics right FROM THE BEGINNING, I wouldn't have to scramble around to quickly do it for them.
Grrr.
Hey! I'm sorry! I wasn't looking at the other topics! :cry
Quote from: The1Kobra on March 08, 2009, 08:39:46 AM
Part of me wonders why Lorenda wants to help Dan, knowing quite well what Dan would do to Regina if he got near her. I know that they don't like each other, but I think that kind of crosses the line.
We need to help him ()
Under the circumstances, I'd stand back and let him calm down on his own.
It's hard to be sure, but it certainly does look like he's leaving claw marks on the corridor wall, in the second panel, and on the door itself in the first.
Well, now we know that Kria didn't know that Dan's an Incubus. She and Lorenda certainly know now, though.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 08, 2009, 08:09:32 AM
The fact that, of the 5 he has, at least 2 have heads at the moment (although it's possible that which two keeps changing) is a sign that he's of a powerful clan. If he can get all five going, then I'd guess he'd turn out to be someone that most Cu bi would walk wide around...
Back when Dan's tentacles first manifested, they
all had Pip heads. I imagine the reason they don't all have heads now is tactical, he wants some of them to be pointy and sharp.
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... since they wouldn't know about his promise to his mother. Speaking of, I wonder when she'll release him from that...
Sometime before Aniz shows back up, I hope. Though Dan does need more practice and needs to learn specifically how to combat someone with that kind of shapeshifting. He should be hell on wheels against most other opponents, however, considering the combat skills he already has.
Quote from: inuhanyo on March 08, 2009, 10:33:12 AM
Sometime before Aniz shows back up, I hope. Though Dan does need more practice and needs to learn specifically how to combat someone with that kind of shapeshifting. He should be hell on wheels against most other opponents, however, considering the combat skills he already has.
Note that Aniz would be approximately 840 years old, assuming he hasn't been slain by Edward Ti'Fiona or something in the meantime. He's more than twice Abel's age - if it came to a fight I don't think there would be too much contest, living clan Founder or no.
That aside, Dan doesn't even
have a grudge against Aniz - Abel does, or did. It's possible they reached some kind of accord, like with Devin (IIRC everyone wanted him to die too at first... he got better).
Either way, Aniz' wicked deeds were done
375 years earlier. I for one would not want to be judged when I'm 40 by some cocky comments I made on usenet at 19, and I think Aniz deserves the same benefit of the doubt.
Poor Dan. If he'd only learned to use magic, he might be able to get through... >_>
Turnsky, your captioning is excellent. :)
I'm kind of expecting at Dan to wear himself out now before Kria and Lorenda actually do anything useful.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 08, 2009, 10:51:33 AM
Note that Aniz would be approximately 840 years old, assuming he hasn't been slain by Edward Ti'Fiona or something in the meantime. He's more than twice Abel's age - if it came to a fight I don't think there would be too much contest, living clan Founder or no.
That aside, Dan doesn't even have a grudge against Aniz - Abel does, or did. It's possible they reached some kind of accord, like with Devin (IIRC everyone wanted him to die too at first... he got better).
Either way, Aniz' wicked deeds were done 375 years earlier. I for one would not want to be judged when I'm 40 by some cocky comments I made on usenet at 19, and I think Aniz deserves the same benefit of the doubt.
Aniz was a dangerous lunatic 375 years ago, it's not likely he got better. And while Dan doesn't even know who Aniz is, Aniz might try and threaten Dan to try and pressure Abel. Or some of Dan's friends, there being no one else Abel seems close to.
While Aniz is not an opponent to be underestimated, he does (or did) seem to be subject to the 'Cubi weaknesses: arrogant overconfidence and lack of combat experience. Dan's adventurer background covers the second and means it's going to be some time before he
might be affected by the first.
Of course, Abel seems to have had some combat training from Destinia, as his story progresses maybe we'll see how much.
Quote from: Raiettei on March 08, 2009, 10:10:11 AM
Quote from: Bluplatespecial on March 08, 2009, 03:54:26 AM
Yes, well if people would learn to title their topics right FROM THE BEGINNING, I wouldn't have to scramble around to quickly do it for them.
Grrr.
Hey! I'm sorry! I wasn't looking at the other topics! :cry
Oh don't apologize. He knows we all do it just to drive him batty. >:3
On a more topic-related strand, I'm with Kria on this one. I'd just watch for a bit, see what Dan does.
.. then maybe open the door for him. But that's just me. :mwaha
"Super bishe powers activate!, Now ladies...who wants to give me a hand?" :mowwink
Arghlegarphle!
Thus begins the Don Martinization of Dan.
:mwaha
Seriously, though. Standing back and watching from a distance is a very good idea.
With regards,
Ted
Quote from: Ghostwish on March 08, 2009, 12:13:54 PMBut that's just me. :mwaha
Certainly not just you. But certainly not me.
I like Regina. o3o Dunno why.
Quote from: Michael Chandra on March 08, 2009, 07:47:15 AMIf he shapeshifts properly he might be able to wedge the doors open.
Like the T-1000?
This made me LOL quite a bit. I was imagining the last few strips with an epic black metal soundtrack to fit with the whole cubi rage, and this strip is kind of the visual equivalent of the record scratching to a stop.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 08, 2009, 07:40:49 AMI'm curious as to what kind of help they think he needs. There are a couple of things, which if strung together, suggest that 'Cubi sometimes do just go nuts as some kind of racial quirk. Maybe they know about it and he doesn't?
Interesting idea. Remember that when Aniz sliced and diced Hennya, he had effectively left the building (as it were) -- he only realized what he had done after he returned to himself. Of course, Aniz really didn't have very far to go, to go psycho -- but that may be a Cubi trait in general (at least for certain clans). Aaryanna seemed to think panicked rampages were a fairly normal event for Cubi.
Quote from: tiggertoo on March 08, 2009, 03:03:18 PM
Interesting idea. Remember that when Aniz sliced and diced Hennya, he had effectively left the building (as it were) -- he only realized what he had done after he returned to himself. Of course, Aniz really didn't have very far to go, to go psycho -- but that may be a Cubi trait in general (at least for certain clans). Aaryanna seemed to think panicked rampages were a fairly normal event for Cubi.
Dan seems to have a persistent belief that he might lose control and hurt people, but I can't find a reference at the moment (
aside from this (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_Fools003.php) which isn't necessarily canon).
Fa'Lina echoes this sentiment in strip 491, though whether that's entirely true or whether she's just using Dan's own fears to manipulate him - for his own good, mind - is unclear.
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It might explain the reluctance of Zinvth, especially after Aniz lost it.
Hmm... I would wonder what would happen if Kria did decide to suddenly come up to Dan. I suspect she would most certainly get that "sparring" she was hoping for, and then some.
... or she might try and take advantage of dan's emotional state... you know, when people are angry, they have a similar level of inhibitions as that of when they are mildly drunk and it's not just focused on the object of their anger...
Myself, I'm just wondering how long it'll take Dan to notice that there appears to be a handle on his side of the door.
We saw Regina shoving the door closed - we don't know that she's gotten it locked. Or if those locks couldn't be overridden by, say....the owner of the house?
Quote from: Anodyne on March 08, 2009, 03:33:35 PM
Myself, I'm just wondering how long it'll take Dan to notice that there appears to be a handle on his side of the door.
Out of interest, where?
QuoteWe saw Regina shoving the door closed - we don't know that she's gotten it locked. Or if those locks couldn't be overridden by, say....the owner of the house?
I think that if she hadn't locked it, she wouldn't have gone "Phew!" at the end.
Now I'm curious... did they also reinforce the
floor?
The floor is a significant part of the structure, so I guess they did.
Quote from: FreeFull on March 08, 2009, 04:05:39 PM
The floor is a significant part of the structure, so I guess they did.
True, but AFAIK Demons aren't generally burrowers. If the purpose was to prevent damage during parties, the idea that someone could be incensed enough to want to dig their way past a barrier may have been overlooked.
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Welcome to the board, by the way. Don't forget to read the rules, be good, have fun etc.
I assume the floor is made out of stone, which would make it hard to dig through even if it isn't reinforced magically.
PS: Thanks Tapewolf for your welcoming, I already read the rules before posting. Nothing I should have trouble with, standard rules for a normal forum.
Also, there could be another floor below, which would make that also a ceiling, which i assume would be reinforced.
*snicker*
Uhoh, awkward misspelling. That's what I get for posting with a PSP. Sorry Tapewolf.
Quote from: FreeFull on March 08, 2009, 05:08:04 PM
Uhoh, awkward misspdlling. That's what I get for posting with a PSP. Sorry Tapewolf.
Heh. I believe you are the first person to have actually done that, though a few people have noted the similarity.
Quote from: Teh_Hobo on March 08, 2009, 04:53:22 PM
Also, there could be another floor below, which would make that also a ceiling, which i assume would be reinforced.
True.
Can we really use Aniz as an appropriate comparison for Dan in this situation?
Aniz is a great deal older (even during the events in Abel's story), and was basically planning the entire thing up till the attack by the pink mythos. It threw him off, got him a little ticked and shredded her, but in the end it seems like he was kinda willing to do such carnage. (And he was supposedly nuts before all this occured to boot)
Dan is berserk at the moment, plain and simple. No plan, no thought, nothing. Just sheer anger. However, beofre all this, he's mentally fine, though a bit depressed thaks to the realization of what he is (in terms of genetics, not spirit). And given his attacks, he was not planning on doing this kind of "battle" beyond DP (if he was reborn that is).
Just wondering is all.
Kria will help Lorenda will try and stop it :mowtongue
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 08, 2009, 05:18:33 PM
Quote from: FreeFull on March 08, 2009, 05:08:04 PM
Uhoh, awkward misspdlling. That's what I get for posting with a PSP. Sorry Tapewolf.
Heh. I believe you are the first person to have actually done that, though a few people have noted the similarity.
Heheh... Wiku Worm and Tape Worm.
Quote from: Jairus on March 08, 2009, 07:58:55 PM
Heheh... Wiku Worm and Tape Worm.
...Pictures of the two together are demanded! :O
The tape worm would envelop itself around the Amber-wiku...
Welcome balthasar, I see you're new too!
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on March 08, 2009, 04:16:07 AM
There's a slight element of patheticism in that scene, for lack of an appropiate term. Futility, perhaps. He's clawing and flailing about but can't get through the door. It's the sort of thing that makes you want to just pat him on the back, go 'there there'... or maybe it's just me.
Yeah, I know what you mean - it's the kind of thing that inspires Fetish Fuel, really...
If it weren't for a few dollars here and there in the wallpaper wars, we wouldn't even *know* about Aniz, so how the hell does he figure into the here and now?
Quote from: DarkAudit on March 08, 2009, 11:12:40 PM
If it weren't for a few dollars here and there in the wallpaper wars, we wouldn't even *know* about Aniz, so how the hell does he figure into the here and now?
Fa'Lina's ban on Aniz's bringing another child to SAIA ends when Abel is 400. Abel is currently 399. We have no idea when the relevant anniversary date is, and Abel could be (re)introduced before then, so Aniz might show up at any time. This is, of course, assuming that Aniz is still alive; we really have no idea
what Dr. Ink was alluding to when he suggested that Abel should be concerned about Dan because Dan is Edward Ti'Fiona's son (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_527.php).
If Aniz show up, he'll likely be trying to manipulate Abel, and the only handles are the people Abel currently associates with, i.e. Dan and his nakama (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Nakama). This will put Dan at odds with Aniz, and it would be a good thing for Dan to be prepared to cope with a hostile Incubus. While Abel has has some kind of combat training, Abel didn't do so well against Arayanna at SAIA (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_595.php).
Quote from: inuhanyo on March 08, 2009, 11:52:53 PM
If Aniz show up, he'll likely be trying to manipulate Abel, and the only handles are the people Abel currently associates with, i.e. Dan and his nakama. This will put Dan at odds with Aniz, and it would be a good thing for Dan to be prepared to cope with a hostile Incubus.
I'm not sure I buy that. Firstly, Abel was just one of many intended siblings - Aniz would be concentrating on his new child. Also, Destania has had the best part of 30 years to hunt him down and kill him, and with the resources of Biggs' family at her fingertips he might not take long to find. In other words, if Aniz is still alive, it's because she
wants him to be.
Quote from: inuhanyo on March 08, 2009, 11:52:53 PM
Quote from: DarkAudit on March 08, 2009, 11:12:40 PM
If it weren't for a few dollars here and there in the wallpaper wars, we wouldn't even *know* about Aniz, so how the hell does he figure into the here and now?
Fa'Lina's ban on Aniz's bringing another child to SAIA ends when Abel is 400. Abel is currently 399. We have no idea when the relevant anniversary date is, and Abel could be (re)introduced before then, so Aniz might show up at any time. This is, of course, assuming that Aniz is still alive; we really have no idea what Dr. Ink was alluding to when he suggested that Abel should be concerned about Dan because Dan is Edward Ti'Fiona's son (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_527.php).
If Aniz show up, he'll likely be trying to manipulate Abel, and the only handles are the people Abel currently associates with, i.e. Dan and his nakama (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Nakama). This will put Dan at odds with Aniz, and it would be a good thing for Dan to be prepared to cope with a hostile Incubus. While Abel has has some kind of combat training, Abel didn't do so well against Arayanna at SAIA (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_595.php).
No. No no no no. This era has no knowledge of Aniz (That we're aware of. He has not appeared in the main story. His *name* hasn't even been mentioned). If we had Regina's Story, none of this would be known about the ban, or what Aniz would do to Abel. For all we know, he's 200 years dead. He is not involved right now. Why drag him into where he doesn't belong?
Because it suggests new and interesting theories?
Because Amber would be perfectly justified in having him pop up in the main story at any time. She'd put in some foreshadowing first, but it wouldn't take much. And that's just because she takes into consideration that not everyone who reads DMFA also reads Abel's Story.
Quote from: inuhanyo on March 12, 2009, 08:15:21 PM
Because Amber would be perfectly justified in having him pop up in the main story at any time. She'd put in some foreshadowing first, but it wouldn't take much. And that's just because she takes into consideration that not everyone who reads DMFA also reads Abel's Story.
And in this case, there hasn't been. Showing up just out of the blue would be a deus ex machina, and quite the reach. Some of the speculation here has been too out there to let lie. Dan and Mab are the stars of the show, not Aniz and Fa'lina.
(And I'm looking over my shoulder half expecting the steamroller that *is* Aniz to show up, because my griping here will most certainly guarantee that is what was planned all along. :U)
Quote from: DarkAudit on March 12, 2009, 11:16:53 PM
Quote from: inuhanyo on March 12, 2009, 08:15:21 PM
Because Amber would be perfectly justified in having him pop up in the main story at any time. She'd put in some foreshadowing first, but it wouldn't take much. And that's just because she takes into consideration that not everyone who reads DMFA also reads Abel's Story.
And in this case, there hasn't been. Showing up just out of the blue would be a deus ex machina, and quite the reach. Some of the speculation here has been too out there to let lie. Dan and Mab are the stars of the show, not Aniz and Fa'lina.
(And I'm looking over my shoulder half expecting the steamroller that *is* Aniz to show up, because my griping here will most certainly guarantee that is what was planned all along. :U)
Not yet.... But all it would take to start it would be somebody seeing Abel around Lost Lake, and reacting with recognition. Regina's foreshadowing was one panel hundreds of strips ago.
Let's face it, as much fun as it is to see Regina
deservedly terrorised by Dan, she's not up to his challenge level. She's barely meat for level grinding (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LevelGrinding). Aniz, on the other hand, would present a
challenge. Even if Dee releases Dan from his vow to "avoid a fight with cubi at all costs", Aniz should still present a challenge.
Just because Dan and mab are the stars of the show doesn't mean the others can't have their turn in the spotlight. Some exist but I don't feel like pointing them out this late
Quote from: Lego3400 on March 13, 2009, 01:29:14 AM
Just because Dan and mab are the stars of the show doesn't mean the others can't have their turn in the spotlight. Some exist but I don't feel like pointing them out this late
There's a difference between being in the spotlight occasionally, and constantly being cited as the invisible hand that turns all that has been said and done before.