Let's see: Regina seems to be bringing a tray with a bottle and two glasses to Kria and the "representative," while Dan - who has an unknown relationship with Regina - is that representative.
This cannot end well.
Also: Kria? Is still hilarious.
it will either be a long silence or another flashback when dan and regina meet
I see she managed to get his shirt off.
It's been off.
Oh, and Dan's gay. It's for certain now. Abel x Dan fans rejoice. XD
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on February 09, 2009, 12:16:47 AM
I see she managed to get his shirt off.
Well, she did tear it off here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_961.php). Poor Dan.
Quote from: Ghostwish on February 09, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
Oh, and Dan's gay. It's for certain now. Abel x Dan fans rejoice. XD
Offhand, I'd say it's more like A) she's Lorenda's mom, and B) she is a demon, and C) she is creeping him out. I'd be just a little worried by this point in a conversation with Kria.
Negotiations' going fairly well. No use of force has commenced yet.
"Please?"
"No"
"PLEASE?"
"NO!"
"....please with a cherry?"
"....no. I'll take the cherry, though."
Memories of similar designs~
"Put the tray on the cart outside the door."
It appears that the cart in question is outside of the room Kria and Dan are in.
Regina might be able to avoid being spotted by Dan. For her, this is probably the best outcome.
If Dan were lucky, the door will be closed, and Regina won't try and peek. But where would the fun in that be?
Third alternative, Dan and Regina mutually spot each other. Hilarity ensues. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HilarityEnsues)
Forth alternative, Dan spots Regina, she doesn't spot him. Given Dan's impulsive streak, his reaction will probably decay this back to the third alternative.
And yeah, Dan most likely finds Kria's advances very creepy.
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 09, 2009, 12:26:10 AM
"Put the tray on the cart outside the door."
It appears that the cart in question is outside of the room Kria and Dan are in.
Regina might be able to avoid being spotted by Dan. For her, this is probably the best outcome.
If Dan were lucky, the door will be closed, and Regina won't try and peek. But where would the fun in that be?
Third alternative, Dan and Regina mutually spot each other. Hilarity ensues. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HilarityEnsues)
Forth alternative, Dan spots Regina, she doesn't spot him. Given Dan's impulsive streak, his reaction will probably decay this back to the third alternative.
And yeah, Dan most likely finds Kria's advances very creepy.
I am getting the feeling that Dan is going to finally get creeped out enough to storm right out of the room....
And collide with Regina, then proceed to fall over (probably her as well), then something similar to Aary's "I can't think of a response to this situation" reaction.
"Negotiations"? Is that what kids are calling it these days...? ;)
Had to laugh at the look on Dan's face, though.
And yes, I think this is a perfect time for Dan to meet up with one of his old friends.
Quote from: Jairus on February 09, 2009, 12:21:18 AM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on February 09, 2009, 12:16:47 AM
I see she managed to get his shirt off.
Well, she did tear it off here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_961.php). Poor Dan.
Quote from: Ghostwish on February 09, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
Oh, and Dan's gay. It's for certain now. Abel x Dan fans rejoice. XD
Offhand, I'd say it's more like A) she's Lorenda's mom, and B) she is a demon, and C) she is creeping him out. I'd be just a little worried by this point in a conversation with Kria.
Yeah, because anyone who resists THAT isn't attracted to women.
Actually no, Dan's not gay--he's a girl. He's a girl who thinks she's a guy, and who has a flat chest, and...and....
And a ten-spot to whoever can give the time of death on that "joke".... >.<
Quote from: SpottedKitty on February 09, 2009, 02:02:56 AM
"Negotiations"? Is that what kids are calling it these days...? ;)
...What happened to the chicken?
A cookie for those who get it.
Quote from: Valynth on February 09, 2009, 03:06:32 AM
Quote from: SpottedKitty on February 09, 2009, 02:02:56 AM
"Negotiations"? Is that what kids are calling it these days...? ;)
...What happened to the chicken?
A cookie for those who get it.
"Choke a smurf?"
Jeff Dunham, Spark of Insanity. Love that show so much. "A... C... Phlegm..."
So, in regards to the new schedule, I hope it works out for you, Amber.
Quote from: Jairus on February 09, 2009, 12:21:18 AM
Quote from: Ghostwish on February 09, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
Oh, and Dan's gay. It's for certain now. Abel x Dan fans rejoice. XD
Offhand, I'd say it's more like A) she's Lorenda's mom, and B) she is a demon, and C) she is creeping him out. I'd be just a little worried by this point in a conversation with Kria.
I'd have to go with Ghostwish on this one! You must really hate women to pass on such an offer, demon or not!
Quote from: Kipiru on February 09, 2009, 03:14:04 AM
Quote from: Jairus on February 09, 2009, 12:21:18 AM
Quote from: Ghostwish on February 09, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
Oh, and Dan's gay. It's for certain now. Abel x Dan fans rejoice. XD
Offhand, I'd say it's more like A) she's Lorenda's mom, and B) she is a demon, and C) she is creeping him out. I'd be just a little worried by this point in a conversation with Kria.
I'd have to go with Ghostwish on this one! You must really hate women to pass on such an offer, demon or not!
Um...isn't that misogyny, not homosexuality? :P
Quote from: Kipiru on February 09, 2009, 03:14:04 AM
I'd have to go with Ghostwish on this one! You must really hate women to pass on such an offer, demon or not!
Ugh... We've been over the reasons many times before. He ain't gonna bang her and he still likes women!
Without getting to nasty about it some people just repulse others; no matter how much money, power, charisma, or beauty they have. Somethings just don't work and they won't lower their standards that far. :mad
Some guys might like it this way but I'd say Dan doesn't like pushy women, which Kria is. He most likely prefers to be the pursuer, not the pursued.
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Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 09, 2009, 04:13:00 AM
Some guys might like it this way but I'd say Dan doesn't like pushy women, which Kria is. He most likely prefers to be the pursuer, not the pursued.
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That I'll go for. Plus she's so OLD....
Quote from: Gamma on February 09, 2009, 03:26:12 AM
Without getting to nasty about it some people just repulse others; no matter how much money, power, charisma, or beauty they have. Somethings just don't work and they won't lower their standards that far. :mad
We are just jesting, of course this is a matter of morals, though in Kria's case i wouldn't think it as lowering standarts, more like Dan's afraid she might brake him :D
"What if I offered my dress in exchange? Eh? Eh?
"No."
Dang you Dan, DANG YOU!
Quote from: Kipiru on February 09, 2009, 04:16:40 AM
...more like Dan's afraid she might brake him :D
:tohell
HIT THE BRAKES, HIT THE BRAKES!! :mowhappy
Agree, Dan! The fact that she is several centuries old and the mother of one of your friends does not deny the fact she still looks young and is hot like the hotness itself! :B
Actually, no. A man should stay true to his foundations. *dramatic face*
Quote from: Ghostwish on February 09, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
It's been off.
Oh, and Dan's gay. It's for certain now. Abel x Dan fans rejoice. XD
My response to that is this. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_119.php)
I'd say it's because of Kria's projected step in the demonic age range. Between Dan and Kria, it's like a young adult being flirted with by his friend's 35-year old mother. Kria's attitude, advances, and normal role call for antagonism are all turn offs for Dan. Dan, being a former advenurer for the cause of justice and one who apparently still holds prejudice for "demon's evil tendencies" couldn't bear the thought of being with, not only one of poorly reputed race, but a prime specimen in the less than saintly acts, with the attitude to match. Kria's overly forward and somewhat intrusive (meaning creepy) advances only serve to sour the punch.
The attitude may be the cause for Dan's reluctance, but I don't think age is ever an issue in a realm filled with long living creatures!
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 09, 2009, 04:13:00 AM
Some guys might like it this way but I'd say Dan doesn't like pushy women, which Kria is. He most likely prefers to be the pursuer, not the pursued.
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I don't agree. Dan likes strong women, just look at his love of amazons. They are womens, they are pretty, they are strong, and they like to adventure! He wants a loved one whos idea of a romantic outing is slaying the big evil three towns over!
But Kria..Well, she is just TOO forward, not to mention a little creepy.
Quote from: Akisohida on February 09, 2009, 07:20:00 AM
I don't agree. Dan likes strong women, just look at his love of amazons. They are womens, they are pretty, they are strong, and they like to adventure! He wants a loved one whos idea of a romantic outing is slaying the big evil three towns over!
But Kria..Well, she is just TOO forward, not to mention a little creepy.
Not to mention she
is the big evil three towns over...
Quote from: Mao Laoren on February 09, 2009, 07:51:51 AM
Quote from: Akisohida on February 09, 2009, 07:20:00 AM
I don't agree. Dan likes strong women, just look at his love of amazons. They are womens, they are pretty, they are strong, and they like to adventure! He wants a loved one whos idea of a romantic outing is slaying the big evil three towns over!
But Kria..Well, she is just TOO forward, not to mention a little creepy.
Not to mention she is the big evil three towns over...
And two towns over..and one town over...and four..five, six, seven, eight, nine, and ten towns over, too!
You know with lorenda's reaction to her behavior you'd think she'd have toned it down a bit...
Also Older women who prefure younger guys are called cougers right? that doesn't seem quite accurate for Kria... she's much more dangerous then a couger
yea... more like a Kodiak bear...
I'm of the opinion that Dan keeps his heterosexuality, even if he is refusing Kria. Her creepy factor is off the charts.
Quote from: Ghostwish on February 09, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
Oh, and Dan's gay. It's for certain now. Abel x Dan fans rejoice. XD
I suppose I'm gay because I don't like/hate Kria altogether? Her attitude right now is a bit more tolerable, though.
Maybe part of the reason Dan is avoiding Kria's advances is because Matilda would be pissed off/upset if anything happened.
Also there's the fact that Kria's, y'know, EVIL and Dan knows it. However I can't stop thinking of this one line from Duce Bigelow:
"Where you think I got this watch?"
"Um... Man-whoring."
"Stock market. Money for the stock market, from man-whoring."
If I were Dan I'd be seriously considering adding man-whoring to my weapons arsenal. But then I'm not Dan.
And he's big on this whole honor thing. Silly Dan.
Quote from: MaskedRetriever on February 09, 2009, 01:26:18 PM
If I were Dan I'd be seriously considering adding man-whoring to my weapons arsenal. But then I'm not Dan.
Yeah, that might be construed by him as giving into his 'Cubi side...
Ai, that does it. We've seen many, many occasions of Dan hitting on girls, making advances, and just generally chasing after them to get some. But then, when two girls (Kria and Matilda) make advances him, he freaks out. That just...doesn't--seem--right. Almost like there's a double standard going on...
...
OH WAIT I'VE GOT IT. Not only is dan racist, he's sexist! :U :U :U
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on February 09, 2009, 01:59:53 PM
Ai, that does it. We've seen many, many occasions of Dan hitting on girls, making advances, and just generally chasing after them to get some. But then, when two girls (Kria and Matilda) make advances him, he freaks out. That just...doesn't--seem--right. Almost like there's a double standard going on...
...
OH WAIT I'VE GOT IT. Not only is dan racist, he's sexist! :U :U :U
To be fair, when he was approached by Matilda he was already freaking out.
Also, Kria is still managing to both creep me out and make me laugh my pants off. Glad I didn't read the comic in public.
Quote from: senrath on February 09, 2009, 02:39:45 PM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on February 09, 2009, 01:59:53 PM
Ai, that does it. We've seen many, many occasions of Dan hitting on girls, making advances, and just generally chasing after them to get some. But then, when two girls (Kria and Matilda) make advances him, he freaks out. That just...doesn't--seem--right. Almost like there's a double standard going on...
...
OH WAIT I'VE GOT IT. Not only is dan racist, he's sexist! :U :U :U
To be fair, when he was approached by Matilda he was already freaking out.
Also, Kria is still managing to both creep me out and make me laugh my pants off. Glad I didn't read the comic in public.
To be fair again, that was because he was still coming to grips with his Cubi heritage, and wasn't sure if she was genuinely attracted to him or it was some kind of Cubi thing.
Quote from: Jairus on February 09, 2009, 02:46:46 PM
To be fair again, that was because he was still coming to grips with his Cubi heritage, and wasn't sure if she was genuinely attracted to him or it was some kind of Cubi thing.
Yeah. He seems to be happier around her since then.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 09, 2009, 02:47:50 PM
Quote from: Jairus on February 09, 2009, 02:46:46 PM
To be fair again, that was because he was still coming to grips with his Cubi heritage, and wasn't sure if she was genuinely attracted to him or it was some kind of Cubi thing.
Yeah. He seems to be happier around her since then.
I would have to agree. Comic 662, showed they left of on a good point. :hug
Remember those discussions we had about the basis of Furrae's economy when one can easily conjure gold (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_652.php)? I've noticed that Kria's not the only one to place a monetary value on slightly used clothing (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_630.php).
The secret's been revealed: The economy of Furrae is based on pants! :mowhappy
Quote from: Alterationartist on February 09, 2009, 05:36:01 AM
Quote from: Ghostwish on February 09, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
It's been off.
Oh, and Dan's gay. It's for certain now. Abel x Dan fans rejoice. XD
My response to that is this. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_119.php)
I'd say it's because of Kria's projected step in the demonic age range. Between Dan and Kria, it's like a young adult being flirted with by his friend's 35-year old mother. Kria's attitude, advances, and normal role call for antagonism are all turn offs for Dan. Dan, being a former advenurer for the cause of justice and one who apparently still holds prejudice for "demon's evil tendencies" couldn't bear the thought of being with, not only one of poorly reputed race, but a prime specimen in the less than saintly acts, with the attitude to match. Kria's overly forward and somewhat intrusive (meaning creepy) advances only serve to sour the punch.
And here's to you, Mrs. Soulstealer....
Cubi love you more than you will know....
Whoa whoa whoa....
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on February 09, 2009, 01:59:53 PM
Ai, that does it. We've seen many, many occasions of Dan hitting on girls, making advances, and just generally chasing after them to get some. But then, when two girls (Kria and Matilda) make advances him, he freaks out. That just...doesn't--seem--right. Almost like there's a double standard going on...
...
OH WAIT I'VE GOT IT. Not only is dan racist, he's sexist! :U :U :U
Dun dun dun....
Wonder when we get the comic where he realizes that little tidbit about himself....
Quote from: Baal Hadad on February 09, 2009, 03:12:26 PM
Wonder when we get the comic where he realizes that little tidbit about himself....
When in doubt, do it yourself!
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all this time and nobody once thought that his reluctance might have to do with the fact that she ate a previous boyfriend (possibly more then one and a large number of other bystanders)
Quote from: Brunhidden on February 09, 2009, 04:08:53 PM
all this time and nobody once thought that his reluctance might have to do with the fact that she ate a previous boyfriend (possibly more then one and a large number of other bystanders)
Does Dan actually know what happened to Lorenda's mom? I mean, Jyrras certainly knows, but has she/he told Dan?
Quote from: Jairus on February 09, 2009, 04:12:07 PM
Does Dan actually know what happened to Lorenda's mom?
Did you mean 'father' there?
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 09, 2009, 04:15:56 PM
Quote from: Jairus on February 09, 2009, 04:12:07 PM
Does Dan actually know what happened to Lorenda's mom?
Did you mean 'father' there?
*facepalm* Dammit. How did I screw that up?
Yes, I mean Lorenda's dad. Does Dan know about him?
Quote from: Tezkat on February 09, 2009, 03:04:45 PM
Remember those discussions we had about the basis of Furrae's economy when one can easily conjure gold (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_652.php)? I've noticed that Kria's not the only one to place a monetary value on slightly used clothing (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_630.php).
The secret's been revealed: The economy of Furrae is based on used pants! :mowhappy
Fixed.
Now I'm just waiting for the vending machines.
... after watching a few scenes from last night's Dead Space webcast... Dan is totally in a "NO MEANS NO" situation... around 7:56:00 (http://www.justin.tv/balade/archive)
I doubt it's going to happen, but here's hoping that Regina doesn't just drop off her tray at the cart but brings it up to Kria and Dan. I'd love to see her reaction to this conversation right now.
Quote from: Basilisk2150 on February 09, 2009, 04:46:00 PM
... after watching a few scenes from last night's Dead Space webcast... Dan is totally in a "NO MEANS NO" situation... around 7:56:00 (http://www.justin.tv/balade/archive)
What does a game video have to do with the comic?
Quote from: LigerJet on February 09, 2009, 01:14:37 PM
Maybe part of the reason Dan is avoiding Kria's advances is because Matilda would be pissed off/upset if anything happened.
As far as I've seen so far, Dan and Matilda are just friends. She may want to try to take it farther than that, but she appears to be giving him the time he needs to come to grips with his 'cubi heritage before getting any more romantically involved with him than a friendly meal together. They both potentially have thousands of years to consider it.
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Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 09, 2009, 06:31:11 PM
Quote from: Basilisk2150 on February 09, 2009, 04:46:00 PM
... after watching a few scenes from last night's Dead Space webcast... Dan is totally in a "NO MEANS NO" situation... around 7:56:00 (http://www.justin.tv/balade/archive)
What does a game video have to do with the comic?
I belive he's refuring to a scene in the games animated prequel
That was Devin? man I am so slow on the uptake.
In my imaginary canon, Dan is just haggling for a better negotiating position.
he heh, now that I think about it... wouldnt Kria just demolish any defense the meek lil roo-rat Jy would set up if he was thrust into this situation?
Wait, if demons fear cubi.....
What would happen if DP had had to fight Dan again and realize that he was a cubi now?
I'm just saying since Regina is no doubt unaware that said cubi had confronted DP as a being.
According to Kria, she has quite the reputation (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_337.php). Dan would certainly have heard of her. She is the kind of Creature that makes his old career of adventurer necessary.
Quote from: King Of Hearts on February 09, 2009, 09:31:50 PM
That was Devin? man I am so slow on the uptake.
In my imaginary canon, Dan is just haggling for a better negotiating position.
he heh, now that I think about it... wouldn't Kria just demolish any defense the meek lil roo-rat Jy would set up if he was thrust into this situation?
Oh, Jyrras has had his encounter (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_343.php) with Kria already. If Jy had any warning, he'd have something (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_368.php) prepared. If not then there is his power (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_373.php).
Quote from: Alterationartist on February 09, 2009, 09:50:30 PM
Wait, if demons fear cubi.....
What would happen if DP had had to fight Dan again and realize that he was a cubi now?
I'm just saying since Regina is no doubt unaware that said cubi had confronted DP as a being.
I don't know about fear... respect as another powerful race of Creatures, certainly.
Hard to say, Dan's resisting even learning anything about his cubi powers. But if he weren't
Dan vanquishing DP, as being vs demon + cubi powers = very dangerous cubi, yeah.
I was thinking more of a meeting when Kria after her infatuaton with Jy... but then again, I guess it could have been just a passing fancy,
Quote from: King Of Hearts on February 09, 2009, 10:07:37 PM
I was thinking more of a meeting when Kria after her infatuaton with Jy... but then again, I guess it could have been just a passing fancy,
ep 373 (http://then%20there%20is%20[url=http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_375.php)
Lorenda: "I wouldn't think too much over it. My mom tends to move in and out of things at whimsy."
Quote from: Alterationartist on February 09, 2009, 09:50:30 PM
Wait, if demons fear cubi.....
AFAIK it's a bit of a sliding scale. Demons can mop the floor with a normal 'Cubi. However, a powerful 'Cubi can mop the floor with a Demon. I'm not sure, but I would guess the implication is that Dan would be acting as a representative for some Tri-wing who is now pissed at DP. This would not be an enviable state to be in.
QuoteWhat would happen if DP had had to fight Dan again and realize that he was a cubi now?
I think he had a fairly good clue, if 388 is anything to go by - he knew that Dan was at least possibly an incubus.
QuoteI'm just saying since Regina is no doubt unaware that said cubi had confronted DP as a being.
How much he told others is unclear, of course...
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 10, 2009, 09:41:57 AM
I think he had a fairly good clue, if 388 is anything to go by - he knew that Dan was at least possibly an incubus.
388 doesn't say he knew Destania was Dan's mother. All it says is that Dead Pegasus knew that Destania had a child.
Now,
we know that Destania is Dan's Mama. But there's nothing saying that Dead Pegasus knows. So your theory, whilst it holds water, is still just that: a theory.
One I happen to agree with, mind, but it's important to keep track of what's confirmed and what's still merely implied.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 10, 2009, 10:10:46 AM
it's important to keep track of what's confirmed and what's still merely implied.
Quoted for truth.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 10, 2009, 09:41:57 AM
QuoteWhat would happen if DP had had to fight Dan again and realize that he was a cubi now?
I think he had a fairly good clue, if 388 is anything to go by - he knew that Dan was at least possibly an incubus.
What's the timing of that (those) panel(s) in 388 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php)? Was DP already dead or was it a flashback to some previous time? Other than Aary (and of course Dee), there's no indication at this point that anyone has a clue
who Destania's child is.
QuoteQuoteI'm just saying since Regina is no doubt unaware that said cubi had confronted DP as a being.
How much he told others is unclear, of course...
How much
who told? DP? If he deduced during the last fight that Dan is Incubus, he had no chance to tell anyone, unless someone speaks with the dead. Dan? Yeah, he'd probably spread news in the adventurer bars that DP was dead (again) at his hands. And as far as his 'cubi status, few know that yet. Merlitz's former team thinks that
Alexsi (not Dan) is a succubus (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_711.php). Since they didn't notice (didn't check?) "Merbel", perhaps they don't know the mechanics of a 'cubi's shape shifting. If they had checked, would they have even noticed Abel's transformed state (same with dragons and whatever else has shape shifting ability)? Maybe "Danlexsi's" transformation magic was so blatant that they forgot to check anyone else around the inn.
Anyway, back to Regina, she knows from Devin that there's a 'cubi in the house, so whether she already knows Dan (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php) or not, she'll know now what he is despite hidden headwings. BTW, I'm not sure yet that Kria
knows, she only mentioned "incubus
level hot" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_945.php). It may imply she knows, but doesn't necessarily outright say she does.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 10, 2009, 12:58:10 PM
What's the timing of that (those) panel(s) in 388 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php)? Was DP already dead or was it a flashback to some previous time?
We apparently saw the entirety of the first and last encounters between Dan and DP. That scene did not happen in either of them, ergo it must have come in between the two. My guess would be the second encounter, but it's just a hunch.
QuoteOther than Aary (and of course Dee), there's no indication at this point that anyone has a clue who Destania's child is.
Well, my reasoning is that Dan did one of those hero speeches, e.g. "I am Daniel Ti'Fiona, son of Destania!", and we're seeing the result in strip 388.
QuoteHow much who told? DP?
Yes.
QuoteIf he deduced during the last fight that Dan is Incubus, he had no chance to tell anyone, unless someone speaks with the dead.
There were more than two encounters. I make at least four (First meeting, where Dan basically failed, and in the last meeting where Dan says he's thwarted DP twice before).
QuoteAnyway, back to Regina, she knows from Devin that there's a 'cubi in the house, so whether she already knows Dan (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php) or not, she'll know now what he is despite hidden headwings. BTW, I'm not sure yet that Kria knows, she only mentioned "incubus level hot" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_945.php). It may imply she knows, but doesn't necessarily outright say she does.
Maybe. They only know that Dan is a representative of the 'Cubi - they might send an ally (or heck, someone disposable) of a different race.
QuoteIf he deduced during the last fight that Dan is Incubus, he had no chance to tell anyone, unless someone speaks with the dead.
Speaking to the dead is easy. It's getting the dead to talk back to you that's the impressive bit...
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 10, 2009, 01:35:15 PM
There were more than two encounters. I make at least four (First meeting, where Dan basically failed, and in the last meeting where Dan says he's thwarted DP twice before).
Arguably, in that first meeting, Dan _did_ end up thwarting Dead Pegasus. However, he didn't kill him.
In strip 153, Dan says he killed Dead Pegasus once before. So he's killed Dead Pegasus twice in total, now.
I make that only three necessary meetings, not four... depending on how thwarted Peggy was in the first round...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 10, 2009, 02:01:03 PM
Arguably, in that first meeting, Dan _did_ end up thwarting Dead Pegasus. However, he didn't kill him.
I'm not sure I buy Dan thwarting DP in that story at all.
Shanna and Aliyka smash up the castle, which comes closest to thwarting him. Meanwhile, Dan ricks his ankle, is kidnapped, his friend dies in front of his eyes, and he is finally shot by DP. The most heroic things he achieves are hitting a guard on the head, taking Hannah off the wall and attacking DP with a halberd which results in Anna getting a smashed jaw and him getting nearly killed. DP only halts his scheme in order to get dinner.
Am I missing something?
"me and my friends", if you will. *cough*
Sort of appropriating what Aliyka did.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 10, 2009, 12:58:10 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 10, 2009, 09:41:57 AM
QuoteWhat would happen if DP had had to fight Dan again and realize that he was a cubi now?
I think he had a fairly good clue, if 388 is anything to go by - he knew that Dan was at least possibly an incubus.
What's the timing of that (those) panel(s) in 388 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php)? Was DP already dead or was it a flashback to some previous time? Other than Aary (and of course Dee), there's no indication at this point that anyone has a clue who Destania's child is.
QuoteQuoteI'm just saying since Regina is no doubt unaware that said cubi had confronted DP as a being.
How much he told others is unclear, of course...
How much who told? DP? If he deduced during the last fight that Dan is Incubus, he had no chance to tell anyone, unless someone speaks with the dead. Dan? Yeah, he'd probably spread news in the adventurer bars that DP was dead (again) at his hands. And as far as his 'cubi status, few know that yet. Merlitz's former team thinks that Alexsi (not Dan) is a succubus (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_711.php). Since they didn't notice (didn't check?) "Merbel", perhaps they don't know the mechanics of a 'cubi's shape shifting. If they had checked, would they have even noticed Abel's transformed state (same with dragons and whatever else has shape shifting ability)? Maybe "Danlexsi's" transformation magic was so blatant that they forgot to check anyone else around the inn.
Anyway, back to Regina, she knows from Devin that there's a 'cubi in the house, so whether she already knows Dan (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php) or not, she'll know now what he is despite hidden headwings. BTW, I'm not sure yet that Kria knows, she only mentioned "incubus level hot" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_945.php). It may imply she knows, but doesn't necessarily outright say she does.
I always thought it had something to do with the fact that Abel changed naturally, and Dan didn't. Even if there's nothing inherent in natural shapeshifting vs. full magic transformations, Dan isn't used to it, so he probably didn't know how to keep morphing magic hidden from those who could sense it--if he was even able to do so, since he didn't shapeshift naturally.
That said, I notice Abel didn't do anything to hide the morphing magic from Merlitz's buddies (he's the one who put the spell on Dan, so you'd think he
could do something, and certainly
would given that they were hired to investigate cubi), but then again, he was so nervous that it probably wasn't the first thing on his mind. And they all left right after Dan appeared at the bar anyway, so he probably wouldn't even have considered it necessary.
Then again, that might have been part of the reason, now I think of it, why Abel told them all to leave when he did--maybe he sensed that Dan was coming down and was worried they'd sense that he was a cubi in disguise. That might account for why he was breathing so heavily once they left.... On the other hand, I don't know if Abel cared that much about Dan or was more worried about himself--clearly they didn't notice that HE had morphing magic, so I guess he was able to hide his own shapeshift, but he might have been worried about Dan.... I don't know, maybe some combination of both? That's something to think about....
This has gotta be the the most thoroughly explored and intelligently discussed comic thread I've heard yet.
Re 388 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php). Consider the context, and the fact that the first three panels have black borders. Those panels are
in Dan's head. Not memories, but his imagination showing reasons
why he doesn't like the idea of being a cubi. The first two are imagined reactions to the news that Daniel Ti'fona is a cubi, one by Regina, one by DP.
QuoteMerlitz's former team thinks that Alexsi (not Dan) is a succubus.
They noticed the morphing magic from Abel's spell, they didn't notice Abel's own shapeshifting.
QuoteGenesis4: "You saw her! She had so much morphing magic how can you not tell she's a succubus in disguise."
They are assuming Alexsi is a succubus (and they don't even know her name) based on the morphing magic they sensed and external circumstances. If or when they come back, they'll find no morphing magic on Alexsi, and I think cubi shapeshifting is subtle enough they'll have to be actively look to find it.
Abel had enough reason to rush them out before
his disguise was penetrated. They all knew Merlitz, after all. And they had mind shields, so Abel was at risk of blowing his disguise just by being ignorant of some minor fact.
We know Dan has thwarted DP at least twice (118 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_118.php) and 150 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_150.php)), and that DP has been resurrected at least three times (941 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_941.php)). The way DP talked, it gives the impression that no small part of Dan's adventuring career has been being DP's Nemesis.
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 10, 2009, 11:13:17 PM
Re 388 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php). Consider the context, and the fact that the first three panels have black borders. Those panels are in Dan's head. Not memories, but his imagination showing reasons why he doesn't like the idea of being a cubi. The first two are imagined reactions to the news that Daniel Ti'fona is a cubi, one by Regina, one by DP.
At the risk of seeming pushy here, I don't buy that. Leaving aside that Dan's memories are also in his head, the strip is titled "Memories always tread the line of humour and drama".
Besides which, DP's reaction seems to be one of "oh sh--", which actually
benefits Dan by making him panic and putting him off guard.
If he was tormenting himself with imagined scenes, a far more persuasive panel would be Jyrras or Alexsi leading a pitchfork mob to kill him, or him standing over Merlitz' corpse with his tentacles out (this is actually
Dan's worst fear (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_Fools003.php)) - and it would also be obvious that those are imagined scenes and not flashbacks.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 11, 2009, 04:20:26 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 10, 2009, 11:13:17 PM
Re 388 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php). Consider the context, and the fact that the first three panels have black borders. Those panels are in Dan's head. Not memories, but his imagination showing reasons why he doesn't like the idea of being a cubi. The first two are imagined reactions to the news that Daniel Ti'fona is a cubi, one by Regina, one by DP.
At the risk of seeming pushy here, I don't buy that. Leaving aside that Dan's memories are also in his head, the strip is titled "Memories always tread the line of humour and drama".
Besides which, DP's reaction seems to be one of "oh sh--", which actually benefits Dan by making him panic and putting him off guard.
If he was tormenting himself with imagined scenes, a far more persuasive panel would be Jyrras or Alexsi leading a pitchfork mob to kill him, or him standing over Merlitz' corpse with his tentacles out (this is actually Dan's worst fear (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_Fools003.php)) - and it would also be obvious that those are imagined scenes and not flashbacks.
But Dan didn't learn that he was a cubi until well after the last time he killed DP. And 388 is the first reference to Regina we ever got. We didn't learn the the blood on her hands was probably Wildy's until the cast page was updated when Regina showed up in the current storyline. Nearly killing Wildy is only referenced on Regina's updated cast page, so that incident must have happended before the comic even started.
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 11, 2009, 07:35:55 AM
But Dan didn't learn that he was a cubi until well after the last time he killed DP.
I didn't say he did. However, he knew his mother's name (*) and by the looks of it DP knew her reputation and race, even if Dan himself didn't. If some winged guy announces that he's the son of a known succubus and that he's going to thwart your evil plan, the leap that said winged guy is also 'Cubi isn't hard to make.
QuoteAnd 388 is the first reference to Regina we ever got. We didn't learn the the blood on her hands was probably Wildy's until the cast page was updated when Regina showed up in the current storyline. Nearly killing Wildy is only referenced on Regina's updated cast page, so that incident must have happended before the comic even started.
No argument there. If memory serves, the entire comic fits within a month of realtime for Dan and co. The gist of my argument where Regina is concerned was that DP realises that the blue-winged guy who has it in for him is most likely an incubus (before Dan himself realises this). He then mentions this to Kria, and it trickles down to Regina. I wasn't suggesting that she was directly connected.
(*) Even if he forgot in a harebrained moment some years later)
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 10, 2009, 11:13:17 PM
... and that DP has been resurrected at least three times (941 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_941.php)).
Twice. This is the third time, and he hasn't been resurrected, yet.
Negotiations continue, y'know... ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna link=topic=5646.msg262824#msg262824Negotiations continue, y'know... ;-]
And could have gone like this...
(http://www.qsl.net/n0ukf/extra/DMFA_969-1.jpg)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 11, 2009, 09:03:03 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 10, 2009, 11:13:17 PM
... and that DP has been resurrected at least three times (941 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_941.php)).
Twice. This is the third time, and he hasn't been resurrected, yet.
Negotiations continue, y'know... ;-]
from 941 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_941.php)
QuoteLorenda: Ugh. Don't mind my mom. She gets really stressed out whenever she is bringing uncle Aliph back from the dead.
Dan: ... Oh you have got to be kidding me.
Lorenda: Tell me about it. You'd think that after the first two times she did it....
Lorenda's last line makes a lot more sense if Aliph has been brought back at least three times, rather than just twice before. This is why I said that DP had been brought back at least three times.
Other people besides Dan might have been able to off DP.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 11, 2009, 10:19:49 PM
Other people besides Dan might have been able to off DP.
Which is why I'm not claiming that Dan killed DP at least three times, only that DP has been resurrected (and therefore died) at least three times.
Though it
is a plausible hypotheses that Dan and DP have had at it many times, with Dan always surviving and DP oftentimes not. Kria's remarks in 944 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_944.php) "This is the fellow who has been killing Aliph. ... I've always wanted to face off against my brother's slayer..." certainly suggest that Dan has been DP's preeminent foe.
Quote
Lorenda: Tell me about it. You'd think that after the first two times she did it....
... that,
this time, she'd have learnt better.
Or so it seems to me.