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Title: PF Episode 5 (page 40)
Post by: Tapewolf on October 17, 2008, 03:54:30 PM
After a slight delay (AKA parents chose the wrong time to call) the page 35 is now up.

http://www.project-future.org

On a not-very related topic, Redwing's commissions kick ass (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1637131/) (FurAffinity - is SFW, though).  Quick turnaround as well.  See her thread in the Merchant's Corner if you want one too  :3

Yes, Salomere will turn up in the comic.  In about 4 year's time  :cry
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 35)
Post by: Zedd on October 17, 2008, 08:54:33 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 35)
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on October 18, 2008, 02:26:15 PM
you know people can actually process 600 hundred words per minute, people talk about 100 wpm, which leaves me to believe there was more thinking going on than words alone
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 35)
Post by: Eagle0600 on October 18, 2008, 07:22:18 PM
A, finally the reference to Jakob's past appears. Also: I am now reading the 'Chronicles of Jakob Pettersohn'. Very good stuff (I'm up to capt. 9 or so)

edit:
Excessively childish use of marquee removed.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 35)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 18, 2008, 07:27:27 PM
... Eagle, you know you're begging the mods to disable marquee, right?
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 35)
Post by: Tapewolf on October 18, 2008, 08:09:17 PM
Quote from: Eagle0600 on October 18, 2008, 07:22:18 PM
A, finally the reference to Jakob's past appears. Also: I am now reading the 'Chronicles of Jakob Pettersohn'. Very good stuff (I'm up to capt. 9 or so)

You had me going there for a moment - I read that as "a reference to Jakob's name" and thought I'd forgotten to mention it :rolleyes  It was supposed to have been mentioned up a strip or two earlier than it was but I managed to forget it (!) while captioning.  Kris had the same problem when he was introduced.

As for CJP, it had its moments but I'm not quite as proud of it as I once was.  There were a few things which I regret doing which now that I look back, were a little Mary-Sueish - put it down to my own inexperience as a writer, I suppose.  There were also a few things which became obsolete as more DMFA lore emerged (e.g. the Phoenix-Oracles).  Also, I decided that Niall looked much nicer as a fox than as a sort of wolf-fox thing.  (Turnsky's idea, actually) so it doesn't quite match Project Future 100% anymore.

That said, I'm intending to merge a few of my favourite chapters into PF as flashbacks.  Jakob's first meeting with Daryil is already planned, and I'd like to do Simeon as well, but it's going to be tricky to fit in.

Oh, and I have to agree with llearch about the marquee thing.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 35)
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on October 19, 2008, 09:13:57 PM
 :kruger  Gabriel T. changes several  key plot lines from the shadows



   :mwaha   There, that's better... (insert bloody palm on screen)
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 35)
Post by: Eagle0600 on October 20, 2008, 04:38:27 AM
I just read through CJP myself. Firstly, I must say HOLY S***! That was awesome! Secondly, the recent strip is suddenly much funnier.

P.S. Why is Jakob looking over his past? Actually from the sounds of it, that was a Hollywood dramatization. (Or whatever Furrae has for Hollywood at this point.)

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 18, 2008, 07:27:27 PM
... Eagle, you know you're begging the mods to disable marquee, right?

It's probably for the best. I don't usually do things like that but... It was just so tempting. I'll edit it out now.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 35)
Post by: Tapewolf on October 20, 2008, 05:07:51 AM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on October 19, 2008, 09:13:57 PM
:kruger  Gabriel T. changes several  key plot lines from the shadows
   :mwaha   There, that's better... (insert bloody palm on screen)

I seem to recall you did that before:
http://dmfa.it-he.org/uhrp/strip019.htm (three pages)


Quote from: Eagle0600 on October 20, 2008, 04:38:27 AM
I just read through CJP myself. Firstly, I must say HOLY S***! That was awesome! Secondly, the recent strip is suddenly much funnier.

Thanks.  One of the criticisms levelled at Future History and by extension the comic of it, is that it was originally designed to be read coming from CJP and depends a bit too much on that for background.  I've tried to fit as much backstory in as I sensibly could for new readers, and more of it will be added to the cast pages eventually.
One of the difficulties is writing cast pages that don't spoil too much when one of the major characters has multiple personas...

QuoteP.S. Why is Jakob looking over his past? Actually from the sounds of it, that was a Hollywood dramatization. (Or whatever Furrae has for Hollywood at this point.)

That would be telling  >:3
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 35)
Post by: Zedd on October 20, 2008, 10:09:01 PM
Ah good times...
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Tapewolf on October 24, 2008, 02:37:46 PM
Page 36 is up.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 24, 2008, 03:26:35 PM
*snerk* Covering your tracks is difficult if people can figure out who you are anyway...
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Tapewolf on October 24, 2008, 03:41:25 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 24, 2008, 03:26:35 PM
*snerk* Covering your tracks is difficult if people can figure out who you are anyway...
Actually, there is a deeper explanation for that.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Eagle0600 on October 25, 2008, 07:07:38 AM
Good stuff, as always. I am as ever eager to see more.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Jairus on October 25, 2008, 12:08:02 PM
Laserdisc? Damn, I've only seen a laserdisc system ONCE in my whole life. It was kinda neat to see the ancestor of the DVD.

Can't wait for the next issue.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Tapewolf on October 25, 2008, 12:17:16 PM
Quote from: Jairus on October 25, 2008, 12:08:02 PM
Laserdisc? Damn, I've only seen a laserdisc system ONCE in my whole life. It was kinda neat to see the ancestor of the DVD.
I've seen a laserdisc, and a laserdisc player.  Unfortunately, not at the same time.

Oh, and for the curious, I forgot to post this:

Looks like it should be digital, doesn't it?  Actually it's all-analogue.  The video signal is frequency-modulated and encoded on the disc as a series of reflective pits using pulse-width modulation.

The soundtrack can be either baseband analogue or a digital pcm stream.

The picture quality is almost as good as c-format video, but without the problems of tape head wear since the playback head is a laser beam.

Some of the earlier decks had a whacking great helium-neon tube about a foot long.  This one is a later model though, uses a semiconductor laser like a regular cd player.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: RobbieThe1st on October 26, 2008, 08:08:34 AM
Hm... After reading some interesting pages on Laserdiscs and related stuff, I decided to check out eBay. Of course, there are a fair number of them available in the US, but still a few for(what seems like) a reasonable price over in the UK (http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_nkwZlaserdiscQ20playerQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZR40QQ_mdoZ).

Comic wise, I chuckled a few times reading it - I can't say exactly what makes it funny to me; Perhaps its just my twisted sense of humor, but I found it funny none the less.


-RobbieThe1st
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Tapewolf on October 26, 2008, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on October 26, 2008, 08:08:34 AM
Hm... After reading some interesting pages on Laserdiscs and related stuff, I decided to check out eBay. Of course, there are a fair number of them available in the US, but still a few for(what seems like) a reasonable price over in the UK (http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_nkwZlaserdiscQ20playerQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZR40QQ_mdoZ).

Comic wise, I chuckled a few times reading it - I can't say exactly what makes it funny to me; Perhaps its just my twisted sense of humor, but I found it funny none the less.
The bulk of this episode is supposed to be pretty light-hearted.  A breather I suppose, before things hit the fan in episode 6.

And yes, there's quite a selection of titles on ebay, including some apparently from last year.  I was almost tempted to consider getting one of the machines, but I don't really have space.  Talking of which, I really should think about getting rid of some of my tape decks.  8 is just stupid, especially when only half of them are regularly used.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Amber Williams on October 26, 2008, 03:19:53 PM
Wouldn't thinking ones thoughts out loud like that when just a few seconds before someone said "shush. keep your thoughts down." be considered counter-productive? :U
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Tapewolf on October 26, 2008, 03:23:15 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on October 26, 2008, 03:19:53 PM
Wouldn't thinking ones thoughts out loud like that when just a few seconds before someone said "shush. keep your thoughts down." be considered counter-productive? :U
Yes.  But Joshua is hoping that Jakob is too busy rabbiting on about laserdiscs to pick up on it.

In the original version, he trips on something and is told to keep it down.  Sometimes I think we should have kept it that way.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Brunhidden on October 27, 2008, 10:45:34 AM
jakob shows his nerdy side and goes all tech on us, heh

well at least he didn't go into detail about the pants, nerd talk should be limited to nerdware not nerdwear



and suddenly with the 'keep your thoughts down' i seriously wonder how a cubi can go through a normal day with just about every person near them continually thinking 'boobs' 'nice ass' 'did anyone notice i farted?' 'boobs' 'hatekillmaimrape' 'ooh! feathers!' 'knockers'

Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 27, 2008, 11:22:22 AM
You missed "boobies", "boobies", "boobies", "nice legs", and "boobies"

And that's just one guy on the street...
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Tapewolf on October 27, 2008, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Brunhidden on October 27, 2008, 10:45:34 AM
and suddenly with the 'keep your thoughts down' i seriously wonder how a cubi can go through a normal day with just about every person near them continually thinking 'boobs' 'nice ass' 'did anyone notice i farted?' 'boobs' 'hatekillmaimrape' 'ooh! feathers!' 'knockers'
I seem to recall Abel covered that nicely... most of the time he shields himself.  Jakob would too, but he's interested in what Joshua has to think for reasons of his own.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Mao on October 27, 2008, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 27, 2008, 11:22:22 AM
You missed "boobies", "boobies", "boobies", "nice legs", and "boobies"

And that's just one guy on the street...

Stop reading my thoughts!  Dammit  llearch!
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Gabi on October 27, 2008, 12:56:11 PM
So... did Joshua come to the conclusion that Jakob was Johan Cross because of the laserdisc rant?

I saw laserdiscs for the first and last time when I visited the USA back in 1988. It was nice to see one again.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Tapewolf on October 27, 2008, 01:02:23 PM
Quote from: Gabi on October 27, 2008, 12:56:11 PM
So... did Joshua come to the conclusion that Jakob was Johan Cross because of the laserdisc rant?
More because Joshua's spent too much time with his boss.  But Jakob's rant makes a handy time for reflection, unless Jakob can simultaneously parse two conversations at once.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 36)
Post by: Brunhidden on October 28, 2008, 09:11:29 AM
the laserdisk rant just drives home the fact that cubi are by definition flighty airheads with the attention span of a squirrel. the fact that Doctor Cross breaks this mold (probably by a complex system of diaries, PDA's, and sticky notes) should set a contrast to the other cubi soon



ya know, i remember seeing exactly one laser disk, in my AP European history class. it was full of umpteen thousand different pieces of art and we were expected to name the period and province it was made in within 15 seconds before another one came up..... wow did i ever fail that class, it was epic
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 37)
Post by: Tapewolf on October 31, 2008, 03:00:50 PM
Page 37 is now up.

EDIT:

Oops, forgot the decals on Mac's leg.  Actually you can't really see them anyway at this resolution.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 37)
Post by: Zedd on November 01, 2008, 01:31:45 AM
A hole you say?
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 37)
Post by: Eagle0600 on November 01, 2008, 04:00:07 AM
Maybe we'll get to find out what he does to Kirian. *Just read FH*
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 37)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 01, 2008, 08:50:42 AM
Quote from: Eagle0600 on November 01, 2008, 04:00:07 AM
Maybe we'll get to find out what he does to Kirian. *Just read FH*
Gives her a furious ticking off, but we don't get to see it.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 37)
Post by: Gabi on November 01, 2008, 08:31:30 PM
Nice teleportation effect!
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 37)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 01, 2008, 08:33:32 PM
Quote from: Gabi on November 01, 2008, 08:31:30 PM
Nice teleportation effect!
Thanks.  Actually it confused Ren at first, but that might have been because Joshua was originally saying "Uh, okay" in the 7th panel before I managed to squeeze it into the 6th.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 37)
Post by: Eagle0600 on November 03, 2008, 05:13:05 PM
Yes, very nice telleport. I particularly like how parts of the other room can be seen through the haze. You might have been overdoing it with the box in the top-right hand side on panel 7 though. Seeing as it's so far away, would you really be able to see so much of it?

P.S. Did I spell telleport right? F.F. doesn't seem to recognize it.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 37)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 03, 2008, 05:23:44 PM
Quote from: Eagle0600 on November 03, 2008, 05:13:05 PM
Yes, very nice telleport. I particularly like how parts of the other room can be seen through the haze. You might have been overdoing it with the box in the top-right hand side on panel 7 though. Seeing as it's so far away, would you really be able to see so much of it?

P.S. Did I spell telleport right? F.F. doesn't seem to recognize it.
'Teleport'.  I'll bear that in mind, and I might re-edit that panel when the chapter finishes.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 37)
Post by: James StarRunner on November 05, 2008, 07:42:12 PM
Heh... I was a little slow at seeing my character's name in the credits. XD
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 37)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 05, 2008, 07:53:23 PM
Quote from: James StarRunner on November 05, 2008, 07:42:12 PM
Heh... I was a little slow at seeing my character's name in the credits. XD
Well, you did say he was an actor  :3
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 37)
Post by: Eagle0600 on November 05, 2008, 07:56:40 PM
Something tells me that Ashley would be good at playing Cross' captain.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 38)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 07, 2008, 02:25:09 PM
Page 38 is now live.  As mentioned in the rant, I had a preview copy up elsewhere on the site and as a consequence had this vague impression that the strip was already published  :rolleyes
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 38)
Post by: Ren Gaulen on November 07, 2008, 08:01:37 PM
Angry Jakob is angry. :. And the infamous brand of chocolate makes its return! :> ..We totally need some canned drink with "Oranj" written on it in the comic.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 38)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 08, 2008, 07:10:22 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on November 07, 2008, 08:01:37 PM
Angry Jakob is angry. :.

Originally I had imagined having Joshua tiptoeing away with Jakob's outburst coming from off-shot, but this works better.

QuoteAnd the infamous brand of chocolate makes its return! :> ..We totally need some canned drink with "Oranj" written on it in the comic.
Since we're back in the lab next week, I'm sure it can be added as a table prop.

Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 38)
Post by: Eagle0600 on November 09, 2008, 05:58:17 AM
Good stuff. I had for some reason imagined that the hole was in the floor. Also, as I understand, the darkness that they came from is the thing Warp-Aci hate most. I could be wrong though, but un-summoning is certainly a good threat. Nice effect with Ashley's fade-in headwings, too, but I almost missed it.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 38)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 09, 2008, 06:04:34 AM
Quote from: Eagle0600 on November 09, 2008, 05:58:17 AM
Good stuff. I had for some reason imagined that the hole was in the floor. Also, as I understand, the darkness that they came from is the thing Warp-Aci hate most. I could be wrong though, but un-summoning is certainly a good threat. Nice effect with Ashley's fade-in headwings, too, but I almost missed it.

I've checked... the hole was explictly in the floor in the original story.  I left it up to Ren where it went this time around.

It would have been easier to show the headwings fading in if I hadn't already chosen a grey background for the walls.  As it is, they came off looking a bit like horns.  They'll be in full-form when he turns up next episode.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 38)
Post by: Eagle0600 on November 10, 2008, 05:57:32 AM
Not a major discrepancy, anyway.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 39)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 14, 2008, 01:50:32 PM
Page 39 is up.  Enjoy.
This episode ends next week, after which things come to a head between Josh and Jakob.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 39)
Post by: Ren Gaulen on November 14, 2008, 02:17:35 PM
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh121/RentheKnight/More%20Random%20Pictures/O-ORANJ7.png)
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 39)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 15, 2008, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on November 14, 2008, 02:17:35 PM
O-ORANJ?
The sad thing is the 'J' didn't really come out well...
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 39)
Post by: Gabi on November 15, 2008, 09:17:12 AM
Sorry about the lack of comments. I've been keeping up (and chuckling a bit), but I don't think I'll be able to say much for now.

I've read the profiles, and I think they're quite original. I liked the "Facebook" part. But the reference to Niall in Jakob's Facebook section has no link.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 39)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 15, 2008, 09:23:52 AM
Quote from: Gabi on November 15, 2008, 09:17:12 AM
I've read the profiles, and I think they're quite original. I liked the "Facebook" part.
That was llearch's suggestion, if I remember right, and I think he was being facetious.  Even so, it was the best word I could find that covered family, friends, acquaintances and so on.

QuoteBut the reference to Niall in Jakob's Facebook section has no link.
Thanks for that.  Not all of them do, though they should ideally.  Actually, one of the things I fixed yesterday was that Niall didn't link back to Jakob.  Obviously I forgot to check the converse as well.

EDIT:
Fixed.  I remember now... Jakob's page went up before Niall's was ready, so the link was stubbed out.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 39)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 15, 2008, 10:00:49 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 15, 2008, 09:23:52 AM
Quote from: Gabi on November 15, 2008, 09:17:12 AM
I've read the profiles, and I think they're quite original. I liked the "Facebook" part.
That was llearch's suggestion, if I remember right, and I think he was being facetious.  Even so, it was the best word I could find that covered family, friends, acquaintances and so on.

Yes. I'm _so_ sorry I came up with it. ;-]
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 39)
Post by: Ren Gaulen on November 15, 2008, 10:45:08 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 15, 2008, 10:00:49 AM
Yes. I'm _so_ sorry I came up with it. ;-]
*points dramatically* LIES!!
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 39)
Post by: techmaster-glitch on November 15, 2008, 03:18:42 PM
For someone who's read the story and knows what's going on, I'm really liking this page >:3
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 39)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 15, 2008, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on November 15, 2008, 03:18:42 PM
For someone who's read the story and knows what's going on, I'm really liking this page >:3
Thanks.  In case anyone is wondering, the beam effect in the last panel is in Josh's imagination, not real.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 40)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 21, 2008, 02:21:12 PM
Page 40 is now live.  I regret nothing.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 40)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 21, 2008, 03:25:00 PM
And so you shouldn't.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 40)
Post by: Zedd on November 21, 2008, 11:51:45 PM
*facepalm and snerks* Oh just one of those days eh Josh?
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 40)
Post by: Gabi on November 23, 2008, 07:23:40 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 21, 2008, 02:21:12 PM
Page 40 is now live.  I regret nothing.
Funny. I noticed the F-bomb after I read this post and started thinking of what might be there for you to regret.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 40)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 23, 2008, 07:34:40 AM
Quote from: Gabi on November 23, 2008, 07:23:40 AM
Funny. I noticed the F-bomb after I read this post and started thinking of what might be there for you to regret.
If it suddenly clicked in my head that I'd been created as a pawn to help a madman unleash evil upon the world, I think I'd be a bit loose-tongued :P

What I was afraid might happen is what happened when Devin first said it (http://nice.llearch.net/dmfa_forum3573.htm), i.e. people went on and on about the fact that he swore instead of talking about the comic itself.  Fortunately that doesn't seem to have happened this time.
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 40)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 23, 2008, 09:09:06 AM
That's cause you have less of the crowd of stupid mooks, and more of the actual intelligent people reading your comic.

I think it's the frequent updates that does it for Amber. That and the willingness to draw cheesecake...
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 40)
Post by: Ren Gaulen on November 23, 2008, 10:33:31 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 23, 2008, 09:09:06 AM
That's cause you have less of the crowd of stupid mooks, and more of the actual intelligent people reading your comic.

I think it's the frequent updates that does it for Amber. That and the willingness to draw cheesecake...
I am also willing to draw cheesecake! And beefcake too! :D ..I'll have to restrain myself. :paranoid
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 40)
Post by: Tapewolf on November 23, 2008, 10:38:12 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on November 23, 2008, 10:33:31 AM
I am also willing to draw cheesecake! And beefcake too! :D ..I'll have to restrain myself. :paranoid
We will actually get to see Keaton in bed, though she is unfortunately one of the few female characters in the series.  As for beefcake, does Dorcan count (when he appears)?  Or the scantily-clad Joshua at the start of the strip?
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 40)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 23, 2008, 12:21:39 PM
I believe my point was that Tapewolf's plot is mostly cheesecake exclusive, or, at best, merely optional.

Amber's seems to demand cheesecake - and beefcake - on a regular basis.


(All opinions are my own and not that of the management, all decisions are final and anybody arguing with the judges deserves all that they get)
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 40)
Post by: Gabi on November 24, 2008, 05:21:29 AM
Did you need that disclaimer, llearch? As if any of us would think you'd borrow someone else's opinions. :P
Title: Re: PF Episode 5 (page 40)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 24, 2008, 07:31:49 AM
Specifically, I'm speaking as an individual and not as a moderator.