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Title: 08/29/08 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: VSMIT on August 28, 2008, 10:52:03 PM
So Fa'lina's got some abilities that are more powerful than others.  That's good to know.

And I'm not sure I'd want to see Abel Rejects #1 or #2.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Aurawyn on August 28, 2008, 11:06:21 PM
Ahh.. so that's why she mentioned Home..

She had to bring his emotions to the surface in order to lock them away. Now he can think, and she doesn't have to worry about someone saying the wrong word (Like "Home") and triggering an emotional fit.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Caswin on August 28, 2008, 11:25:09 PM
That...

That ruled.  That is a nifty power/stratagem right there.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on August 28, 2008, 11:34:43 PM
my personal belief is this, emotions alert you that there is a problem. you are more likely to make a more rational decision with them than without.  This strip perpetuates the myth that with emotion you are not responsible for your action because you were being emotional. or that a decision made in anger (subset fear)  is the wrong one...

don't get me wrong, theoretically  Fa'lina already knows all of Abel's likes and dislikes and without an emotional connection the conversation exclusively of information retrieval is possible... which isn't really decision making but information retrieval which means that abel wouldn't really be making a decision, but making a logical choice...which is manipulation.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Alondro on August 29, 2008, 12:50:50 AM
And Abel has never asked for his emotions back...

... which is why he's an arrogant ass.   >:3

*is hung by the "Gay for Abel" cult*  X_x
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 12:53:23 AM
*hangs Alondro*

Sheesh, Fa'Lina is really freaking powerful. I don't think we've ever seen a hint of this power before... unless it's a high-level version of Cubi empathic powers.

As for rejected pose #3... I am truly frightened for what the wallpaper will look like. That's just scary.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Gamma on August 29, 2008, 12:54:24 AM
Emotions?! Bah! No need, just cloud the judgment. Cold hard logic is what I like. Except when it kinda doesn't work, that's the problem.
Ehh, you kinda need emotions to be an ass. I would know btw, it requires you to not care intentionally. Not having the capacity makes it a whole other ball game.

ARGGH!! I didn't think I'd use this.....                            Apparently is some twisted manner anyway :/

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Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: VSMIT on August 29, 2008, 12:59:28 AM
Abel doesn't have the emotion block anymore...

His eyes are all sparkly again, which means that either he didn't want the block or Fa'lina decided that he was ok to be without it.

Which means he can be an arrogant ass if he wants.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Alondro on August 29, 2008, 01:05:31 AM
Fa'lina is a P20 Telepath!

Even the PsyCore cannot control her now!   :disbelief
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: AmigaDragon on August 29, 2008, 01:57:04 AM
I'd think this ability would be similar but the opposite of emotion jammering (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_670.php), blocking instead of flooding.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: VSMIT on August 29, 2008, 02:00:23 AM
I considered that, but the whole idea of emotion jamming is to metaphorically inject the person with an emotion.  I can see that this might happen if Fa'lina "injected" him with complacency, but for some reason I think her powers extend far beyond simple emotion jamming.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Tsunari on August 29, 2008, 02:04:02 AM
I somehow think that the rebels like Abel's father should go the extra distance in investment and don't send anyone to cubi school.  raise them himself and create a self-sufficient power base.

Since Falina has all that power doing it through the cubi school would make it pretty much whatever Fa'lina would alllow.  Trying to build an empire doesn't work well under such conditions.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 02:08:27 AM
Quote from: Tsunari on August 29, 2008, 02:04:02 AM
I somehow think that the rebels like Abel's father should go the extra distance in investment and don't send anyone to cubi school.  raise them himself and create a self-sufficient power base.

Except we know that Aniz has not only brought his children to SAIA before, he has also left them in a similar condition to Abel. Here's where Fa'Lina mentions that he basically leaves his kids broken for Fa'Lina to fix (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_013.php), and Fa'Lina knew that he was planning to bring his next kid to SAIA as well (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_014.php). No, he needs the school to watch and raise his kids while he starts the whole thing over again.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: demecowen on August 29, 2008, 03:09:19 AM
Quote from: Tsunari on August 29, 2008, 02:04:02 AM
I somehow think that the rebels like Abel's father should go the extra distance in investment and don't send anyone to cubi school.  raise them himself and create a self-sufficient power base.

That assuming if Aniz could raised his kids well, seeing his past investments (mainly Abel) they either will hate him or be too mess up to be worth cannon fodder.

As much I don't believe in cold hard emtionless rational, right now it better than another emotional breakdown happening for every certain word. 
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 03:14:00 AM
Quote from: demecowen on August 29, 2008, 03:09:19 AM
As much I don't believe in cold hard emtionless rational, right now it better than another emotional breakdown happening for every certain word. 

Good point. Besides, it's not permanent: Fa'Lina just needs him stable for a little bit. To buy her time to help him get over it... though I can only see this emotion blocker lasting for a few more minutes to an hour or so. She basically needs him rational while she explains what happened, what's happening, and what's going to happen.

...
Incidentally, demecowen, I don't think I've met you. Nice to meet you!
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Kipiru on August 29, 2008, 03:18:37 AM
Wow, need I say that Fa'Lina rules big time! The taking away of the emotions must be in the same group of abilities that made her capable of putting a mental block on Dan when he was in SAIA. Probably the ultimate spell in that skill tree.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: ChaoSynergy on August 29, 2008, 03:41:59 AM
Yay emotional lightswitches! :D
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Omega on August 29, 2008, 03:50:54 AM
Oh, if only it would be that easy in real life.

Though one might question if there are any motivators/antagonists/goals without emotions. Just because you know something is right, doesn't mean that it's something you want.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Feather Dancer on August 29, 2008, 05:37:27 AM
This is probably the best idea given he's just in an emotional fit otherwise and pretty incapable of rational thought. He needs the time to settle before he can properly grieve and this'll probably help a lot in doing that.

But damn, talk about cool just snapping your fingers like that. It's like a clappy light.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Tapewolf on August 29, 2008, 06:02:59 AM
Hmm, this whole monday-being-a-bank-holiday thing has made me confused about that day it is  :rolleyes
Anyway, that's a dead useful knack.  I don't know how easy a global block on emotions would be, but I imagine it's relatively easy to 'drain' a specific emotion, which could be useful in such circumstances.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Sunblink on August 29, 2008, 07:09:32 AM
I think the Abel Rejected Pose #3 has finally made me capable of being gay for Abel. I can finally embrace my inner boob-lover. :boogie

I wish there was a I'm-Gay-For-Abel T-Shirt. :< If Amber made one for donations or something, I'd definitely buy one.

At this point I wouldn't be upset with a Gay-For-Fa'Lina shirt for the ladies, anyway. :U DAMN that was awesome. What was that she did? Some kind of advanced emotion jammer?

Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Tapewolf on August 29, 2008, 08:46:21 AM
I think I'm going to have to steal that eye effect  :3

One interesting point, though... is Abel going to simply go back out freaking out just as he was before, like a song being paused, or is he going to have a sudden rush of double-strength emotion as the bits he missed catch up with him?
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Darkdragon on August 29, 2008, 09:00:48 AM
Or perhaps would the rush stop because the emotion flow would have subsided anyways after Fa'Lina removed it?

Rejected Pose #3... *shudder* Abel.., Abel... *sigh*
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Faerie Alex on August 29, 2008, 10:31:35 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 29, 2008, 08:46:21 AM
One interesting point, though... is Abel going to simply go back out freaking out just as he was before, like a song being paused, or is he going to have a sudden rush of double-strength emotion as the bits he missed catch up with him?
Or alternately, he could be "reset" so to speak, having emotions, but not using them until something else happens to trigger them. If that made sense.

Also, Abel should be female more often. :B
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: VSMIT on August 29, 2008, 10:32:15 AM
It's as if she removed the emotion and stuck it up on a shelf in a storage bin somewhere.  I think that when he gets them back, he'll still feel them, but they won't be as pronounced because he will have moved past it or come to terms with it, if only a little bit.

I agree with Darkdragon regarding Pose #3.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Snap on August 29, 2008, 11:28:33 AM
y, hello thar new wallpaper!
(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1797/yhellotharzk8.th.jpg) (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yhellotharzk8.jpg)
i wonder if amber rejected the sketch because his eye-colors were switched...
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Naldru on August 29, 2008, 12:06:30 PM
Seems like a magical equivalent of Zoloft.  Which would make sense if you viewed Abel as having a severe anxiety attack.

We know he can experience emotions because he can be afraid (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_623.php).
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Sofox on August 29, 2008, 12:34:20 PM
Wow, if someone took away my emotions just like that I'd be so pissed...


...wait a minute...
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Lena on August 29, 2008, 12:46:02 PM
I'm still impressed that Fa'Lina can do that - and I do understand why, I know for a fact I don't make rational decisions when I'm emotional.

The rejected Abel pose is...like a 2x4 to the back of the head. Which is, I'm sure, what was intended. What I'm curious about is what the other guys were supposed to do in that version of the wallpaper... :erk :giggle
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 12:50:18 PM
Quote from: Lena on August 29, 2008, 12:46:02 PM
The rejected Abel pose is...like a 2x4 to the back of the head. Which is, I'm sure, what was intended. What I'm curious about is what the other guys were supposed to do in that version of the wallpaper... :erk :giggle

...  :erk

I need brain bleach. NOW.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Tapewolf on August 29, 2008, 12:52:27 PM
Quote from: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 12:50:18 PM
I need brain bleach. NOW.
Just ask Fa'Lina nicely.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: MT Hazard on August 29, 2008, 01:51:43 PM
'I removed your ability to feel emotions... I will return them when you desire them back'

Anyone see the potentially problem here?
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Zedd on August 29, 2008, 02:14:57 PM
No wonder werid vibes around that give me shivers
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Goatmon on August 29, 2008, 03:55:51 PM
She can do that?!   :dface
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: SpottedKitty on August 29, 2008, 03:57:31 PM
Quote from: modelincard on August 29, 2008, 10:31:35 AM
Also, Abel should be female more often. :B
As long as he remembers that he always forgets the shirts (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_690.php)...   ;)
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Goatmon on August 29, 2008, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: MT Hazard on August 29, 2008, 01:51:43 PM
'I removed your ability to feel emotions... I will return them when you desire them back'

Anyone see the potentially problem here?

Not really.  Desire only comes from emotion to an extent.

He's probably going to want them back soon enough.  
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Lucheek on August 29, 2008, 04:27:42 PM
Fa'Lina is officially uber quadruble major double admiral powerful.

Seriously. I bet she could make the world begin spinning in the opposite direction if she feeled so inclined.

And-

Now I can finnaly say I'm gay for Abel! Ever as a girl, He's sooooo preeettty
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Goatmon on August 29, 2008, 04:28:15 PM
Also, Amber, I just saw Rejected Abel post 3, and it made my freaking day.

I love you forever for this.   :)
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Naldru on August 29, 2008, 05:40:06 PM
Curiosity is a desire to know something.  Desire is an emotion.  If he truly had no emotion, he wouldn't be curious as to what had happened to him.  As I mentioned before, what she has done seems to be similar to some drugs used in pharmopsychology.  In an anxiety attack, the anxieties actually create more anxieties in a positive feedback loop.  (Think of it as a massive psychic feedback squeal.  And think what that would do to mind readers.)  She's suppressed the positive feedback to get rid of the squeal so that Abel can hear his own thoughts.  Standard practice would then be to use this opportunity to talk to the patient and try to get him into a state where he avoids future anxiety attacks.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_attack
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: terrycloth on August 29, 2008, 06:08:15 PM
There's emotional desire (which is real desire) and rational desire, which is kind of 'Until you decide that it would be best if you had them back.'

Not that screwing with your emotions (by removing them or whatever) necessarily makes your decisions totally rational. It's one of the scary mind-control scenarios -- you take away someone's disgust and fear at what you're doing to them, and they let you abuse them horribly.

Still, it's a good cure for a panic attack, like you said.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 06:11:25 PM
Quote from: terrycloth on August 29, 2008, 06:08:15 PM
There's emotional desire (which is real desire) and rational desire, which is kind of 'Until you decide that it would be best if you had them back.'

Not that screwing with your emotions (by removing them or whatever) necessarily makes your decisions totally rational. It's one of the scary mind-control scenarios -- you take away someone's disgust and fear at what you're doing to them, and they let you abuse them horribly.

Still, it's a good cure for a panic attack, like you said.
And I doubt that Fa'Lina is one to use this skill lightly. It's terrifyingly easy to abuse, but Fa'Lina doesn't strike me as the kind to just willy-nilly prevent people from tapping into their full emotions.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: rt on August 29, 2008, 07:05:36 PM
Ok, now that is power. And asking "May I have my emotions back, please", somehow doesn't seem a nice way to ask for such a thing.

And abel non wallpaper attempt 3  :mwaha. It would be interesting to see what would be done if Amber realesed the individual coloured characters like this.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 07:08:06 PM
Quote from: rt on August 29, 2008, 07:05:36 PM
And abel non wallpaper attempt 3  :mwaha. It would be interesting to see what would be done if Amber realesed the individual coloured characters like this.
Somehow, I envision the rest of the male cast members in Speedos in this concept, since Abel is the only real shapeshifter currently (hiding your headwings does not count, and Azlan has yet shown that he shapeshifts... of course he can, but he hasn't yet). And that's really freaky.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jer-oh-me on August 29, 2008, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 07:08:06 PM
Quote from: rt on August 29, 2008, 07:05:36 PM
And abel non wallpaper attempt 3  :mwaha. It would be interesting to see what would be done if Amber realesed the individual coloured characters like this.
Somehow, I envision the rest of the male cast members in Speedos in this concept, since Abel is the only real shapeshifter currently (hiding your headwings does not count, and Azlan has yet shown that he shapeshifts... of course he can, but he hasn't yet). And that's really freaky.

Jai, please don't ever bring that disturbing image up again, I already had a freaky bizarro gender twist mind screw mental image already anyway, and that didn't help recover from it!
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on August 29, 2008, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 07:08:06 PM
Quote from: rt on August 29, 2008, 07:05:36 PM
And abel non wallpaper attempt 3  :mwaha. It would be interesting to see what would be done if Amber realesed the individual coloured characters like this.
Somehow, I envision the rest of the male cast members in Speedos in this concept, since Abel is the only real shapeshifter currently (hiding your headwings does not count, and Azlan has yet shown that he shapeshifts... of course he can, but he hasn't yet). And that's really freaky.

Jai, please don't ever bring that disturbing image up again, I already had a freaky bizarro gender twist mind screw mental image already anyway, and that didn't help recover from it!

Heeheeheeheehee! Sorry, evil cackle, slipped out somehow.
You're welcome.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Lena on August 29, 2008, 09:41:45 PM
Your brain went somewhere very freaky, there. I just thought of the guys reacting in horror to Abel's "outfit", or at worst cross-dressed with Abel pushing the limits. Now that image you inspired is trying to work its way into my brain.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 09:51:21 PM
Quote from: Lena on August 29, 2008, 09:41:45 PM
Your brain went somewhere very freaky, there. I just thought of the guys reacting in horror to Abel's "outfit", or at worst cross-dressed with Abel pushing the limits. Now that image you inspired is trying to work its way into my brain.

If you've looked at my thread over in the Tower of Art, you can get a pretty good idea of the weird places my mind goes.

Actually, I thought of something a bit ago, and it's a bit weird but here it is: if Cubi feed off of emotions, wouldn't removing/blocking someone's emotions basically rob them of a food source? Obviously Fa'Lina is powerful enough that not being able to gather nourishment off of Abel is not a problem, and also simply blocking one person is not enough to starve a Cubi, but I just thought that was interesting.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Amber Williams on August 29, 2008, 10:40:04 PM
Quote from: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 09:51:21 PM
Actually, I thought of something a bit ago, and it's a bit weird but here it is: if Cubi feed off of emotions, wouldn't removing/blocking someone's emotions basically rob them of a food source? Obviously Fa'Lina is powerful enough that not being able to gather nourishment off of Abel is not a problem, and also simply blocking one person is not enough to starve a Cubi, but I just thought that was interesting.

Well keep in mind that the ability to gain energy from emotion doesnt remove a Cubi's ability to eat normal foods.   So really a Cubi could survive on one or the other.  Also, the amount of energy one needs to exert to block anothers emotion is quite great and it would be likely the blocker themselves would lose energy before the blockee would beimpaired.  Obviously not an issue for Fa'Lina granted.

One of the worst ways to kill a Cubi would be to bury them alive or wall them away, where they would have no emotions nor food to survive on and thus would slowly and painfully waste away.  There have been a few exceptions, but they are very few and the situation rather unique.

As for what Fa'Lina did, its very temporary and not something she particularly likes doing.  But she felt it was a better option than the other three options she could have done. (not to mention one of the shorter ones to draw rather than me draw yet another 5 pages of Abel crying and having an emotional breakdown)
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Angel on August 29, 2008, 10:43:59 PM
.... If only that ability could be used on every politician, religious extremist, would-be terrorist, arguing couple...

Yeah, the world needs that ability. Of course, having some control over it would be nice.

(sees the rejected pose) :eek

I....I can't look away...I want to, but I can't...
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 10:53:31 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on August 29, 2008, 10:40:04 PM
Quote from: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 09:51:21 PM
Actually, I thought of something a bit ago, and it's a bit weird but here it is: if Cubi feed off of emotions, wouldn't removing/blocking someone's emotions basically rob them of a food source? Obviously Fa'Lina is powerful enough that not being able to gather nourishment off of Abel is not a problem, and also simply blocking one person is not enough to starve a Cubi, but I just thought that was interesting.

Well keep in mind that the ability to gain energy from emotion doesnt remove a Cubi's ability to eat normal foods.   So really a Cubi could survive on one or the other.  Also, the amount of energy one needs to exert to block anothers emotion is quite great and it would be likely the blocker themselves would lose energy before the blockee would beimpaired.  Obviously not an issue for Fa'Lina granted.
I thought as much. Still, it's an interesting power.

Quote from: Amber Williams on August 29, 2008, 10:40:04 PM
One of the worst ways to kill a Cubi would be to bury them alive or wall them away, where they would have no emotions nor food to survive on and thus would slowly and painfully waste away.  There have been a few exceptions, but they are very few and the situation rather unique.
Ooh, I like the way you think.

Quote from: Amber Williams on August 29, 2008, 10:40:04 PM
As for what Fa'Lina did, its very temporary and not something she particularly likes doing.  But she felt it was a better option than the other three options she could have done. (not to mention one of the shorter ones to draw rather than me draw yet another 5 pages of Abel crying and having an emotional breakdown)
So this page was a time-saving option that also introduced a new power of Fa'Lina's and gave us a deeper understanding of who she is and what she is capable of?
...
No complaints from me. Bravo, Mrs. Williams.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Stygian on August 30, 2008, 12:15:16 AM
This... (http://www.missmab.com/WRY/YHelloThar.jpg) is... I... there... words... describe...

SEX. INCARNATE.

That image numbed even the current rage and spite of Fa'Lina I was feeling. And that's something.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Yugo on August 30, 2008, 12:25:12 AM
I'm already gay for Abel! WRY! Well, the other male characters too, but that's not the point!
I think my mind just broke...  :erk
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jer-oh-me on August 30, 2008, 01:29:52 AM
Quote from: Yugo on August 30, 2008, 12:25:12 AM
I'm already gay for Abel! WRY! Well, the other male characters too, but that's not the point!
I think my mind just broke...  :erk

Heh, the more people that provide comments like this, I think the more Amber will feel "Mission Accomplished" Well done Amber, this is already my favorite thread cause of the mindscrew responses.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Prof B Hunnydew on August 30, 2008, 11:03:54 AM
Quote from: Yugo on August 30, 2008, 12:25:12 AM
I'm already gay for Abel! WRY! Well, the other male characters too, but that's not the point!
I think my mind just broke...  :erk

Abel as a male?   or as a female....?  ........Answer YES...Please...

PBH
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Naldru on August 30, 2008, 04:19:55 PM

Quote from: Jer-oh-me on August 29, 2008, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 07:08:06 PM

Somehow, I envision the rest of the male cast members in Speedos in this concept, since Abel is the only real shapeshifter currently (hiding your headwings does not count, and Azlan has yet shown that he shapeshifts... of course he can, but he hasn't yet). And that's really freaky.

Jai, please don't ever bring that disturbing image up again, I already had a freaky bizarro gender twist mind screw mental image already anyway, and that didn't help recover from it!

Actually, we have seen Azlan in a bikini. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_152.php)

And there is also this image, suitable for framing or blackmail. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_476.php)
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 30, 2008, 04:28:43 PM
Quote from: Naldru on August 30, 2008, 04:19:55 PM

Quote from: Jer-oh-me on August 29, 2008, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Jairus on August 29, 2008, 07:08:06 PM

Somehow, I envision the rest of the male cast members in Speedos in this concept, since Abel is the only real shapeshifter currently (hiding your headwings does not count, and Azlan has yet shown that he shapeshifts... of course he can, but he hasn't yet). And that's really freaky.

Jai, please don't ever bring that disturbing image up again, I already had a freaky bizarro gender twist mind screw mental image already anyway, and that didn't help recover from it!

Actually, we have seen Azlan in a bikini. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_152.php)

And there is also this image, suitable for framing or blackmail. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_476.php)

Oh, darn, I'd forgotten about those. Of course, the question here is why does Neni's outfit not include a top...
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Naldru on August 30, 2008, 04:37:07 PM
Quote from: Jairus on August 30, 2008, 04:28:43 PM
Oh, darn, I'd forgotten about those. Of course, the question here is why does Neni's outfit not include a top...
I don't think Neni bought it for herself to wear.  She purchased it for Azlan to wear.  Remember when Neni dressed Azlan in Goth. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_609.php)
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 30, 2008, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: Naldru on August 30, 2008, 04:37:07 PM
Quote from: Jairus on August 30, 2008, 04:28:43 PM
Oh, darn, I'd forgotten about those. Of course, the question here is why does Neni's outfit not include a top...
I don't think Neni bought it for herself to wear.  She purchased it for Azlan to wear.  Remember when Neni dressed Azlan in Goth. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_609.php)
Ah... I didn't think of that possibility. Good point.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Mao on August 30, 2008, 06:48:45 PM
Wow, that was two serious kinds of uncomfortable for me: 

Emotions are a part of us, much the same as our hands and fingers so, to cut someone off from them is a very disconcerting thought!  Beyond that, feelings and thoughts are intertwined, to block that bond is very very upsetting to me, even conceptionally.

Though the rejected able pose is a very fine quality image.... I think I now have to join the gay for able club.. .only.. he's a chick right now.. but cubi are shape shifters... but he's hot right now.... but I know that he's really a guy.... but.... but... I hate Amber right now.  Arrgh.. this is why I hate gender bender manga/anime.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 30, 2008, 06:55:29 PM
Quote from: Mowser on August 30, 2008, 06:48:45 PM
Emotions are a part of us, much the same as our hands and fingers so, to cut someone off from them is a very disconcerting thought!  Beyond that, feelings and thoughts are intertwined, to block that bond is very very upsetting to me, even conceptionally.
That might have been part of the point. I think that once Abel gets his emotions back he's going to realize how powerful Fa'Lina is... and that it's probably not a good idea to cross her.

Quote from: Mowser
Though the rejected able pose is a very fine quality image.... I think I now have to join the gay for able club.. .only.. he's a chick right now.. but cubi are shape shifters... but he's hot right now.... but I know that he's really a guy.... but.... but... I hate Amber right now.  Arrgh.. this is why I hate gender bender manga/anime.
Or you could just join the Gay for Abel camp permanently.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Goatmon on August 30, 2008, 08:16:50 PM
I'm just glad I can finally be straight for Abel. 

I hope I'm not alone on this. 
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 30, 2008, 08:17:27 PM
Quote from: Goatmon on August 30, 2008, 08:16:50 PM
I'm just glad I can finally be straight for Abel. 

I hope I'm not alone on this. 
You're only Straight for Abel until he goes back to being a guy. Then what happens, I wonder?
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Stygian on August 30, 2008, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: Goatmon on August 30, 2008, 08:16:50 PM
I'm just glad I can finally be straight for Abel. 

I hope I'm not alone on this. 

Beh. You're all sensitive, discriminate wusses is what I say. Don't matter if it's gay or straight. Abel is sex.

Too bad no one has a chance in Hell of getting with him. Not in the comic, and not voluntarily, that is...
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Aurawyn on August 30, 2008, 10:45:31 PM
Quote from: Mowser on August 30, 2008, 06:48:45 PM
Wow, that was two serious kinds of uncomfortable for me: 

Emotions are a part of us, much the same as our hands and fingers so, to cut someone off from them is a very disconcerting thought!  Beyond that, feelings and thoughts are intertwined, to block that bond is very very upsetting to me, even conceptionally.

Funny.. I had the exact opposite reaction..

I was like Wow, I wish I could have that done to me! I'm going through a lot of shit right now, ((Sick mother, Bad Job, Confusing/Heartbreaking Relationship, College)) and not having Emotions seems like a good idea to me right now.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Gamma on August 30, 2008, 10:56:57 PM
You don't need that type of block. You're stronger then that.

Taking away your emotions, even for a little while, would be giving up. Can't have any of that now can we. :I
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: AmigaDragon on August 31, 2008, 03:10:57 AM
Only if it's voluntary. Abel's emotions were taken without his foreknowledge or consent, so he didn't give up.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Magic on August 31, 2008, 03:23:46 AM
I'm going straight to hell, but that's a given. (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/theavatarbin/fembel.jpg)

I have nothing else to say.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 31, 2008, 03:27:32 AM
Quote from: Ink on August 31, 2008, 03:23:46 AM
I'm going straight to hell, but that's a given. (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/theavatarbin/fembel.jpg)

I have nothing else to say.
No worries, Ink, I'll be there with you for my "Speedos" comment. As for the drawing... it's not quite as mind-scarring as Amber's version... but maybe my mind is still getting over it. Nice umbrella, though.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Danzig on August 31, 2008, 05:12:51 AM
They already got to the Abel picture at Lulz.

That's quick work.
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Lucheek on August 31, 2008, 09:47:46 AM
Quote from: Ink on August 31, 2008, 03:23:46 AM
I'm going straight to hell, but that's a given. (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/theavatarbin/fembel.jpg)

I have nothing else to say.

OooooOoh, I like the umbrella!
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Aleolus on August 31, 2008, 01:19:21 PM
Ahh, what I wouldn't give to be able to turn off my emotions sometimes.  That would be cool >.>
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Janus Whitefurr on August 31, 2008, 01:42:41 PM
Quote from: Stygian on August 30, 2008, 09:34:32 PM
Too bad no one has a chance in Hell of getting with him. Not in the comic, and not voluntarily, that is...

If Jyrras/Abel becomes an official couple, I will be happy to laugh at you.  :mwaha

Until then, I'll just glower ineffectually.  :<
Title: Re: 8/29/2008 [Abel 2 #28] Emotional or Rational?
Post by: Jairus on August 31, 2008, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on August 31, 2008, 01:42:41 PM
Quote from: Stygian on August 30, 2008, 09:34:32 PM
Too bad no one has a chance in Hell of getting with him. Not in the comic, and not voluntarily, that is...

If Jyrras/Abel becomes an official couple, I will be happy to laugh at you.  :mwaha

Until then, I'll just glower ineffectually.  :<

Dude, "Jyrbel" had better become an official pairing: they make such a nice couple. But, they are still at Amber's mercy and power, so we can only hope that if anything goes right for Jyrras it is him and Abel hooking up.

Now "Jaras" (Janus Bond/Doctor Jyrras)... that one's a little more open-ended. ;)