Ha ha, I love the title.
Matilda-Dan lovebaby is absolutely awesome. XD I looooove her. Ten limbs.
Also, I DESPERATELY WANT TO SEE A GRYPHON A/CUBI LOVECHILD. :< But it's totally just me.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Oh... wow. That would be AWESOME. And probably inconvenient as hell for the poor kid, but hey, what can one do?
I'm counting 11 limbs, unless I get my math wrong. Standard six = four legs, two arms. 7 = include the tail (it has to be included, it's clearly prehensile). 9 = backwings. 11 = headwings.
Fluffly in the third panel, she looks awesome. So far, it's all just a refresher course.
So Amber's feeling a little better but not much? That sounds like my plauge, after two days I get sit up but I was still sick.
Very cool, but I'd like to know what happened with the border authorities...
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on April 02, 2008, 10:29:28 AM
Matilda-Dan lovebaby is absolutely awesome. XD I looooove her. Ten limbs.
I agree. This mini-arc is awesome.
I wonder, are we likely to get a Pyroduck-Alexsi child-to-be as well? >:3
Daniel and Matilda's progeny... Cannot unsee... :eek (that is supposed to be a joke, really; don't take it as an insult to Matilda; Matilda herself is cool; don't shoot me; I'll go crawl back under my rock)
Its good to know that Amber is feeling better. Being ill is truly unpleasant.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on April 02, 2008, 10:29:28 AM
Also, I DESPERATELY WANT TO SEE A GRYPHON A/CUBI LOVECHILD. :< But it's totally just me.
... not Gryphon C? ;-] Although I'd be interested to see what a Cubi/Phoenix lovechild grew up like, myself. Skills etc...
Yes, Dan-tilda is awesome. *cough*
My take on the rant? Amber can do what she likes, when she likes. So far, she's been amusing the hell out of me, so where do I get off complaining? ;-]
No phoenix half-breeds? SCREW YOU, AMBER! YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY MY FANTASIES! :cry
Also, the Dan/Matilda cross breed is the cutest thing ever. <3
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 02, 2008, 10:43:13 AM
Very cool, but I'd like to know what happened with the border authorities...
Didn't happen at all. Considering I was supposed to be the driver and the condition I was in...it was just not in the ability to do.
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 02, 2008, 11:47:22 AM
Didn't happen at all. Considering I was supposed to be the driver and the condition I was in...it was just not in the ability to do.
Ah well, as long as it's been rescheduled or whatever...
i hope that you continue to rest and recover. having a artist at full health is better then not having an artist at all.
Much truth in your words, E_voyager, is. Time for proper recovery Amber needs. Heal she must. Speech mine distorted is.
Quote from: Goatmon on April 02, 2008, 11:25:41 AM
No phoenix half-breeds? SCREW YOU, AMBER! YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY MY FANTASIES! :cry
Also, the Dan/Matilda cross breed is the cutest thing ever. <3
Phoenix B can still crossbreed. :> At least, I think, according to the chart.
And too true. <3
~Keaton the Black Jackal
The only problem I have with the Phoenix B class, is there's no Phoenixes in it.
Funny how that works. =P
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on April 02, 2008, 12:23:49 PMPhoenix B can still crossbreed. :> At least, I think, according to the chart.
...Which makes another option for winged Beings - or immature 'Cubi in denial.
Quote from: Wanderer on April 02, 2008, 10:33:15 AM
I'm counting 11 limbs, unless I get my math wrong. Standard six = four legs, two arms. 7 = include the tail (it has to be included, it's clearly prehensile). 9 = backwings. 11 = headwings.
Aw, you beat me to it. Yeah, I was counting tails as limbs too, making it 11 there, prehensile or not. What about multi-tailed species like kitsune, is each tail counted as a limb or is the cluster one limb?
by Bragis beard- the question i had thought would be put to an end HAS BEEN!
*gets 'bow chicka wow-wow' music CD as a gift for mattie*
however, ten limbs does not include tentacles. dagon kthulu, eat your heart out!
No-wonder Dan and Abel look so much like their being parents.
Jack McSlay >> Alexi-Pyroduck kid = :U that would be awesome XD
Sudden thought. Why would ANYTHING want to boink an undead? :P I doubt they can even reproduce in the first place (apart from the whole bite and die thing)
You dislike the undeads? Blasphemer!
Quote from: Pagan on April 02, 2008, 01:17:18 PM
You dislike the undeads? Blasphemer!
I doubt it's disliking, more that they cannot be 'done'.
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on April 02, 2008, 01:20:14 PM
I doubt it's disliking, more that they cannot be 'done'.
Very true. They are called un
dead for a reason. No way a walking corpse animated by magic will be able to reproduce.
Hmmmm... there can be dragon/cubi hybrids but no gryphon-C hybrids...
Quote from: Kibin on April 02, 2008, 01:32:49 PM
Hmmmm... there can be dragon/cubi hybrids but no gryphon-C hybrids...
If you can get someone willing to 'Doink' a 100 foot terror, go ahead.
Not even by magic or scientific means? :dface
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 02, 2008, 11:24:25 AM
Yes, Dan-tilda is awesome. *cough*
How about "Danilda"? Much more elegant-sounding...
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 02, 2008, 12:03:53 PM
Much truth in your words, E_voyager, is. Time for proper recovery Amber needs. Heal she must. Speech mine distorted is.
Sound like Yoda, you do. :P I agree with the sentiments, though.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 02, 2008, 01:24:34 PM
No way a walking corpse animated by magic will be able to reproduce.
Of course, where magic is involved (especially magic powerful enough to raise the dead), ordinary logic doesn't necessarily apply...
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on April 02, 2008, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: Kibin on April 02, 2008, 01:32:49 PM
Hmmmm... there can be dragon/cubi hybrids but no gryphon-C hybrids...
If you can get someone willing to 'Doink' a 100 foot terror, go ahead.
100 foot ferret?
... oh, hang on. Doink, not dook. Nevermind.
Quote from: Tarynsgate on April 02, 2008, 01:13:52 PM
Sudden thought. Why would ANYTHING want to boink an undead? :P I doubt they can even reproduce in the first place (apart from the whole bite and die thing)
... Pass the time? A sense of experimentation? Curiosity? Troo Luv?
Quote from: LionHeart on April 02, 2008, 01:37:44 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 02, 2008, 11:24:25 AM
Yes, Dan-tilda is awesome. *cough*
How about "Danilda"? Much more elegant-sounding...
... hence why I avoided it.
Quote from: Jadian on April 02, 2008, 01:35:10 PM
Not even by magic or scientific means? :dface
Beyond brainwashing, i doubt it.
I find it amusing that Dan-tilda (bad name Ilerch, but I will go with it.) is being modest. Is that since she is cubi and not a full blooded Mythos?
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 02, 2008, 01:24:34 PM
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on April 02, 2008, 01:20:14 PM
I doubt it's disliking, more that they cannot be 'done'.
Very true. They are called undead for a reason. No way a walking corpse animated by magic will be able to reproduce.
Doesn't mean they can't do the motions. And that's all that's necessary.
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on April 02, 2008, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: Kibin on April 02, 2008, 01:32:49 PM
Hmmmm... there can be dragon/cubi hybrids but no gryphon-C hybrids...
If you can get someone willing to 'Doink' a 100 foot terror, go ahead.
*Charline takes that as a challenge!* Don't tell me what I can and cannot do! >:O
Quote from: Alondro on April 02, 2008, 01:46:08 PM
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on April 02, 2008, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: Kibin on April 02, 2008, 01:32:49 PM
Hmmmm... there can be dragon/cubi hybrids but no gryphon-C hybrids...
If you can get someone willing to 'Doink' a 100 foot terror, go ahead.
*Charline takes that as a challenge!* Don't tell me what I can and cannot do! >:O
We're not thinking of telling you that. The Gryphon, on the other hand...
Quote from: Pagan on April 02, 2008, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 02, 2008, 01:24:34 PM
Very true. They are called undead for a reason. No way a walking corpse animated by magic will be able to reproduce.
Doesn't mean they can't do the motions. And that's all that's necessary.
You, sir, are creeping me out. Who in their sane mind would ever want to do that?
Quote from: Alondro on April 02, 2008, 01:46:08 PM
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on April 02, 2008, 01:34:30 PM
If you can get someone willing to 'Doink' a 100 foot terror, go ahead.
*Charline takes that as a challenge!* Don't tell me what I can and cannot do! >:O
Just like Danny said, if you are willing then go ahead. No-one is stopping you. Just let me spread the spy-bots first. It must be recorded - for science, of course.
Quote from: Kibin on April 02, 2008, 01:32:49 PM
Hmmmm... there can be dragon/cubi hybrids but no gryphon-C hybrids...
In a couple updates, you will all find out this anyways, so I will say it now. All Furrae-dragons have two forms, a mega-size and a smaller being-size. Pyroduck showed an example of this earlier. It is somewhat similar to a natural ability the Phoenix (B) group has in that they can switch between the two as a natural ability.
So a dragon having a half-breed with a race that is normally "smaller" isnt really all that odd.
Quote from: LionHeart on April 02, 2008, 01:37:44 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 02, 2008, 11:24:25 AM
Yes, Dan-tilda is awesome. *cough*
How about "Danilda"? Much more elegant-sounding...
I figured she would be called Megan personally...
Quote from: Pagan on April 02, 2008, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 02, 2008, 01:24:34 PM
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on April 02, 2008, 01:20:14 PM
I doubt it's disliking, more that they cannot be 'done'.
Very true. They are called undead for a reason. No way a walking corpse animated by magic will be able to reproduce.
Doesn't mean they can't do the motions. And that's all that's necessary.
This will also be coming up soon...(spoilers ahoy!)
Most peeps have it right. You dont really get "half" undead. Once you hit Undead status, you sort of lose the bullets in your gun...the eggs in your basket...the little soldiers are pretty much done for...etc. You cant really have kids.
I should also make mention of a quirk with Undead...apparently the effects dont work on young children. So pretty much anything under the age of 10 is immune from going Undead. They just stay dead.
Ah. That seems a bit odd, that children that young would happen to be immune...
I guess that means that all our practice on 'Taking on Five Year Olds in a Fight' won't help much when the Zombie Apocalypse rolls around.
Do you think Amber was dropping hints with Dan-tilda?
I should nope not.
Quote from: Jadian on April 02, 2008, 02:04:25 PM
Ah. That seems a bit odd, that children that young would happen to be immune...
Not too odd really. Magic and the really young have always had a strange mixture. That and I wont lie in that the concept of undead infants is incredibly retarded to me.(Not to mention creeeeeepy waters I dont want to even step into. Some things are just not meant to be in a comedy based comic) The way I figure, the mind needs to be at a certain level of maturity before certain magical things can affect it. And since the UnDead exist from a particular instance, there are certain aspects of it that dont work the same as your average zombie critter.
Quote from: Pagan on April 02, 2008, 02:12:46 PM
I should nope not.
All of DMFA has taken place in about a month or so and it's been running since around 1999 IIRC.
If Dan knocked Matilda up right now, assuming a humanoid gestation period and the same rate of time per strip, she'd give birth sometime around 2081.
Quote from: Furour on April 02, 2008, 02:05:59 PM
Do you think Amber was dropping hints with Dan-tilda?
I hope she did it only to sate our curiosity.
Weres aren't on either list... the heck?
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 02, 2008, 02:02:14 PM
I should also make mention of a quirk with Undead...apparently the effects dont work on young children. So pretty much anything under the age of 10 is immune from going Undead. They just stay dead.
I'm guessing that this has to do with puberty more then innocence. am i right?
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 02, 2008, 01:53:21 PM
Quote from: Pagan on April 02, 2008, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 02, 2008, 01:24:34 PM
Very true. They are called undead for a reason. No way a walking corpse animated by magic will be able to reproduce.
Doesn't mean they can't do the motions. And that's all that's necessary.
You, sir, are creeping me out. Who in their sane mind would ever want to do that?
I'm quite a fan of the undead in any realm. Furrae's no different.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 02, 2008, 02:21:17 PM
Quote from: Pagan on April 02, 2008, 02:12:46 PM
I should nope not.
All of DMFA has taken place in about a month or so and it's been running since around 1999 IIRC.
If Dan knocked Matilda up right now, assuming a humanoid gestation period and the same rate of time per strip, she'd give birth sometime around 2081.
Jeez! Well, my reasons against Matilda/Dan should be pretty obvious.
Quote from: Pagan on April 02, 2008, 02:27:14 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 02, 2008, 02:21:17 PM
If Dan knocked Matilda up right now, assuming a humanoid gestation period and the same rate of time per strip, she'd give birth sometime around 2081.
Jeez! Well, my reasons against Matilda/Dan should be pretty obvious.
Sorry, that should have been 2089.
I'd be kind of interested to know if Creature races become undead - so far it seems mostly to have referred to normal Beings.
Quote from: Kuari on April 02, 2008, 02:23:26 PM
Weres aren't on either list... the heck?
Oops. That was my bad. I thought I was forgetting something...probably got confuzzled due to mer being on the list and me accidently glancing it as both or something. Fixed now.
*waves hand*
This is not the discussion you are looking for...
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 02, 2008, 02:43:26 PM
I'd be kind of interested to know if Creature races become undead - so far it seems mostly to have referred to normal Beings.
Creatures can become undead. Its just not as common. Probably because most situations where creatures end up dying usually doesnt involve a lot of contact with the Undead.
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 02, 2008, 02:49:33 PM
Creatures can become undead. Its just not as common. Probably because most situations where creatures end up dying usually doesnt involve a lot of contact with the Undead.
Cool - thanks for taking the time to answer.
Quote from: Wanderer on April 02, 2008, 10:33:15 AM
I'm counting 11 limbs, unless I get my math wrong. Standard six = four legs, two arms. 7 = include the tail (it has to be included, it's clearly prehensile). 9 = backwings. 11 = headwings.
Looks like you missed the wing-tentacles. If we assume four, that would make 15...
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 02, 2008, 02:49:33 PM*waves hand*
This is not the discussion you are looking for...
This is not the discussion I am looking for....
*turns and walks out of the thread*
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 02, 2008, 02:18:22 PM
Quote from: Jadian on April 02, 2008, 02:04:25 PM
Ah. That seems a bit odd, that children that young would happen to be immune...
Not too odd really. Magic and the really young have always had a strange mixture. That and I wont lie in that the concept of undead infants is incredibly retarded to me.(Not to mention creeeeeepy waters I dont want to even step into. Some things are just not meant to be in a comedy based comic) The way I figure, the mind needs to be at a certain level of maturity before certain magical things can affect it. And since the UnDead exist from a particular instance, there are certain aspects of it that dont work the same as your average zombie critter.
This part of the discussion reminds me of an episode of Moonlight (vampire series on CBS). One vampire had been turned in his teens and so was stuck in adolescence even though he was over 30 (or maybe even much, much older than that). A terribly awkward developmental stage to be stuck in for the rest of your (un)life (emotional immaturity, pimples and whatever else).
I guess Megan (Amber wins the nameing right) has the scarf because she enhireted her father's noticable areas, instead of her moms. And- do I spy ears hanging inside her cobra-hood?
Also, I wonder what a Cubi-Were would be like. Assuming that a Cubi carries more power than a were (what is power measured by anyways?), the kid would be a cubi. But would they still carry the ability to shift to human and animal. I mean, in the were-way. Not in the Cubi-way.
...Would the animal have wings?
Quote from: Lucheek on April 02, 2008, 04:36:44 PM
I guess Megan (Amber wins the nameing right) has the scarf because she enhireted her father's noticable areas, instead of her moms. And- do I spy ears hanging inside her cobra-hood?
Nah. I gave her a scarf cause I felt like giving her some fashion. And cause I knew someone was gonna comment on it. :mwaha
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 02, 2008, 04:42:53 PM
Quote from: Lucheek on April 02, 2008, 04:36:44 PM
I guess Megan (Amber wins the nameing right) has the scarf because she enhireted her father's noticable areas, instead of her moms. And- do I spy ears hanging inside her cobra-hood?
Nah. I gave her a scarf cause I felt like giving her some fashion. And cause I knew someone was gonna comment on it. :mwaha
Since Amber actually gave her a name, does that mean she will be showing up again?
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 02, 2008, 02:02:14 PM
I should also make mention of a quirk with Undead...apparently the effects dont work on young children. So pretty much anything under the age of 10 is immune from going Undead. They just stay dead.
Well that's good, at least. The thought of undead babies just kinda... sounds creepy. :)
.. though I could bring on the "dead baby" jokes.. :)
Oh yeah, and how would a 'Cubi/Were hybrid work? Especially in human or feral forms...
Quote from: Fresnor on April 02, 2008, 05:36:27 PM
Oh yeah, and how would a 'Cubi/Were hybrid work? Especially in human or feral forms...
Since older 'Cubi seem to be magic-powered rather than biology-powered, it could be very nasty/fatal if switching to human form interrupts the magic that drives their metabolism :U
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 02, 2008, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: Fresnor on April 02, 2008, 05:36:27 PM
Oh yeah, and how would a 'Cubi/Were hybrid work? Especially in human or feral forms...
Since older 'Cubi seem to be magic-powered rather than biology-powered, it could be very nasty/fatal if switching to human form interrupts the magic that drives their metabolism :U
Surely since 'Cubi can shapeshift already, the were-shifty-thing wouldn't have any particular effects?
Quote from: Mwa on April 02, 2008, 07:20:14 PM
Surely since 'Cubi can shapeshift already, the were-shifty-thing wouldn't have any particular effects?
My understanding was that when a Were shifts into human form, they have counter-magic properties/abilities. That said, it can't block everything or they'd never be able to shift back again.
So it sounds like when they went 'pop' they'd still be able to change shape, but they'd lose the extra-magic/anti-magic were stuff in favor of the cubi mindreading etc. Otherwise, they'd be a mary-sue style hybrid with the powers of both parents.
Sound reasoning tape a were cubi in human forum i look to Dan when he was wearing the human patch and all the weaknesses that came with it. the loos of shearing balance and i do but if he could smell some one standing right behind him in that form but there a were in human form still has enhanced sense so the doubt wouldn't be quite that bad.
Wait a minute, lets count here. You've got 4 legs, two arms, two back wings, two head wings, and a tail.
4+2+2+2+1=11 limbs!!
Quote from: Pagan on April 02, 2008, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 02, 2008, 01:24:34 PM
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on April 02, 2008, 01:20:14 PM
I doubt it's disliking, more that they cannot be 'done'.
Very true. They are called undead for a reason. No way a walking corpse animated by magic will be able to reproduce.
Doesn't mean they can't do the motions. And that's all that's necessary.
Yeah, haven't you ever heard of necrophilia before? *shudder* Can't believe I just said that.
Quote from: Daymond42 on April 02, 2008, 05:24:25 PMWell that's good, at least. The thought of undead babies just kinda... sounds creepy. :)
.. though I could bring on the "dead baby" jokes.. :)
Or perhaps a song? :idol "Dead puppies, dead puppies. Dead puppies aren't much fun." :rock
Quote from: Aleolus on April 02, 2008, 11:01:07 PM
Wait a minute, lets count here. You've got 4 legs, two arms, two back wings, two head wings, and a tail.
4+2+2+2+1=11 limbs!!
+4 pip-head-tentacles = 15 limbs.
Anyone know where we can get a hungry radio-active spider so we can try to go for the max? :3
Alternative ending: It's a 4 legged 2 armed 2 winged 1 tailed 3 eyed purple people eater, sure looks strange to me!
/me considers shouting Dan for Matilda and Matilda for Dan again...
would be nice to see Megan again in 3 or 4 years...
believe what you won't and leave while you cant' me no speak bizarro so don't give me chance.
IE whats happens happens. believe it or not. i think Dan really likes Matilda and while her have more legs then him may be odd she does still have that warriors spirit he finds so attractive in amazons and she's self proclaimed immune to cubi charm abilities sticks she he knows she likes him for who he is. who knows in twenty years he may actually call her like she said assuming he gets over his cubi heritage and gets his family back together in that time.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 02, 2008, 05:53:06 PM
Since older 'Cubi seem to be magic-powered rather than biology-powered, it could be very nasty/fatal if switching to human form interrupts the magic that drives their metabolism :U
It doesnt work that way. The Were turning forms is not a magical light switch that when they hit human-form, all magic whatsoever gets turned off. The internal mechanisms and natural part of themselves function just fine as its practically a part of their chemistry. The Weres own magical abilities dont get shut off when they switch forms, they just get repressed or augmented. A were in human form can still cast magic and do their natural creature abilities. Granted not as powerfully as their normal or animal form.
Things like a demons diamond-hard skin, cubi shifting, were shifting, dragon changing from big to small...these are racial traits that come natural to the species and dont really work on the same level as a magic spell.
The basic rule to follow is "if you have to learn to do it, its magic. If you have the ability to do it naturally, its a natural ability" Yeah...Dan will have to learn how to use his shapeshifting and wing tentacles
well...but the ability to do them come naturally.
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 03, 2008, 05:26:17 AM
It doesnt work that way. The Were turning forms is not a magical light switch that when they hit human-form, all magic whatsoever gets turned off. The internal mechanisms and natural part of themselves function just fine as its practically a part of their chemistry. The Weres own magical abilities dont get shut off when they switch forms, they just get repressed or augmented.
A were in human form can still cast magic and do their natural creature abilities. Granted not as powerfully as their normal or animal form.
Ah, I see. The demonology states that they can't cast healing spells upon themselves while in human form, so I originally assumed the effect was something along the lines of a negate-magic spell.
Quote from: Hanii Puppy on April 02, 2008, 11:52:22 PM
+4 pip-head-tentacles = 15 limbs.
Nyet. Amber has said this before - the tentacles are numbered based on how powerful the clan is. And Dan himself has 3, not 4 (I think - I haven't gone to check that)
The tentacles, I would count as the wings, since they're part of the major wings. So 12, -maybe-. Despite that, it's still being picky about the numbers. Sheesh. Get a life...
Quote from: Fresnor on April 02, 2008, 05:23:38 PM
Since Amber actually gave her a name, does that mean she will be showing up again?
I doubt it. Amber names the flowers on the side of the road in her strips. ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 03, 2008, 06:52:31 AM
Nyet. Amber has said this before - the tentacles are numbered based on how powerful the clan is. And Dan himself has 3, not 4 (I think - I haven't gone to check that)
Are you certain? Do you mean tentacles, or tentacle-heads?
It looks to me like Abel in 552 has more than three, despite his clan being virtually non-existent. And Dan certainly has 4 in 378.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 03, 2008, 05:42:43 AM
Ah, I see. The demonology states that they can't cast healing spells upon themselves while in human form, so I originally assumed the effect was something along the lines of a negate-magic spell.
They can still cast the spell...but the spell itself wouldnt work on them. Things cast upon them dont really work, but internal things (especially things that...you know...are part of their very survival) tend to work just fine. I mean really...the ability to shift between human to being to animal in and of itself would require a certain degree of magic to it. If the weres became completely magically devoid in human form, they wouldnt be able to turn themselves back. :U
There is only one type that can be considered truly magic-null...and that is the unfortunate result of a Fae halfbreed.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 03, 2008, 07:02:10 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 03, 2008, 06:52:31 AM
Nyet. Amber has said this before - the tentacles are numbered based on how powerful the clan is. And Dan himself has 3, not 4 (I think - I haven't gone to check that)
Are you certain? Do you mean tentacles, or tentacle-heads?
It looks to me like Abel in 552 has more than three, despite his clan being virtually non-existent. And Dan certainly has 4 in 378.
Stop putting words in mah mouth! :U
Number of tentacles have nothing to do with clan power. Claws/heads do. A cubi with heads as a default wing tendril trait is considered to be either very powerful on their own, or from a powerful clan.
A Cubi can make a dozen tentacles from their wings if they really wanted to. Its more about the skill level one can handle since after a certain point, they have to put their own concentration into moving all those parts. The average Cubi tends to base off around 4-5 tendrils naturally, though some have been known to do 8.
And really...anything more than that is just excessive and most Cubi know that a dozen tentacles can become a hazard moreso than a benefit.
Megan is awesome and cute, awesomely cute, even. And funny, I bust out laughing when I saw the strip.
Fae halfbreed?
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 03, 2008, 07:02:10 AM
Are you certain? Do you mean tentacles, or tentacle-heads?
Of course I'm not certain. If I was certain, I wouldn't have said anything. ;-]
Thanks for looking up #378, and I meant the heads...
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 03, 2008, 07:18:54 AM
Stop putting words in mah mouth! :U
Sorry, boss. *hides*
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 03, 2008, 07:18:54 AM
A Cubi can make a dozen tentacles from their wings if they really wanted to. Its more about the skill level one can handle since after a certain point, they have to put their own concentration into moving all those parts. The average Cubi tends to base off around 4-5 tendrils naturally, though some have been known to do 8.
Thanks for clarifying that.
Enjoying this arc so far. Since my character's supposed to be a hybrid it's useful info.
*Charles 'Bleaches' the topic!* The intermediate Espada #6, Luppi, had 8 tentacles! Grimjow pwnd him in like a second when Orihime healed his arm (or technically, denied the act of it having been cut off in the first place, cuz her powers are god-like). :3
*Charline hmms* Would a human from another world be able to hybridize with a Cubi, considering there are human worlds with no magic at all. Actually, I would wonder about the stability of their quantum structure if they crossed intoa world in which magic was allowable by the natural laws of that universe... *deliberately melts Amber's brain!* >:3
Quote from: Pagan on April 02, 2008, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on April 02, 2008, 01:24:34 PM
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on April 02, 2008, 01:20:14 PM
I doubt it's disliking, more that they cannot be 'done'.
Very true. They are called undead for a reason. No way a walking corpse animated by magic will be able to reproduce.
Doesn't mean they can't do the motions. And that's all that's necessary.
On a related note, it's kind of unfair for the undead, since they wouldn't be able to feel the motions either.
First off who said undead can't feel? when Dan and Jy-jy were at the bar the undead said squishy referring to the tentacles that were inside of it's body.
secondly bad Charline naughty Charline. trying to melt Amber's brain is a no no. besides its run away again due to hideous fan mail using improper mixtures of English and some other language.
Quote from: e_voyager on April 03, 2008, 02:34:40 PM
First off who said undead can't feel?
Weaknesses: The Undead feel no pain, and in some cases feel nothing at all. -- Demonology 101 : Undead
it only says some cannot feel at all and that the rest just dont feel pain.
thus the majority of undead can feel things which are not pain, like joy, fear, tickles, and whatever....
suddenly i picture them as a race of people addicted to skydiving, cliff jumping, and bear baiting. i bet they make crackin good gladiators, reusable too
"dude, that was totally your arm, like, four seconds ago"
ah i'd forgotten that it said some feel not at all but the lack of feeling pain. I guess it's kind of like leprosy in that fashion when injures can go unnoticed unless you do a visual check of your body. (which Epyon has displayed and is trying to cover for) does not been the lack of all sensation. many can still feel and that allows them to perform skills that requite a sense of touch. after all they have a whole city of undead out there somewhere. i'm sure some if not most of the jobs that are needed in city upkeep require some sense of tactile awareness.
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 03, 2008, 05:26:17 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 02, 2008, 05:53:06 PM
Since older 'Cubi seem to be magic-powered rather than biology-powered, it could be very nasty/fatal if switching to human form interrupts the magic that drives their metabolism :U
It doesnt work that way. The Were turning forms is not a magical light switch that when they hit human-form, all magic whatsoever gets turned off. The internal mechanisms and natural part of themselves function just fine as its practically a part of their chemistry. The Weres own magical abilities dont get shut off when they switch forms, they just get repressed or augmented. A were in human form can still cast magic and do their natural creature abilities. Granted not as powerfully as their normal or animal form.
Things like a demons diamond-hard skin, cubi shifting, were shifting, dragon changing from big to small...these are racial traits that come natural to the species and dont really work on the same level as a magic spell.
The basic rule to follow is "if you have to learn to do it, its magic. If you have the ability to do it naturally, its a natural ability" Yeah...Dan will have to learn how to use his shapeshifting and wing tentacles well...but the ability to do them come naturally.
I'm getting this distinct feeling that a Were-Cubi would be rather OMGWTF strong with what you're saying...
Human Form: Cubi abilities + Immune to Magic = OWWW
Full Animal Form: Cubi abilities + Strongly enhanced magic = Nuke on legs
On the other hand, such half-breeds would probably be relatively rare I'm guessing due to Weres being no slouches on their own..
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 02, 2008, 02:21:17 PMAll of DMFA has taken place in about a month or so and it's been running since around 1999 IIRC.
If Dan knocked Matilda up right now, assuming a humanoid gestation period and the same rate of time per strip, she'd give birth sometime around 2081.
Hum... o.o that's quite a long time.
... Going off this, when should Moira's baby be due? c8
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 03, 2008, 07:18:54 AM
There is only one type that can be considered truly magic-null...and that is the unfortunate result of a Fae halfbreed.
Well, that does make sense, considering there's 2438165 of them. No more, no less. (http://"http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_785.php") If a Fae had a halfbreed baby, it wouldn't really be a fae then, would it? c:
Unless they're twins, hence having a soul split into 2 bodies, one good one evil, bound by destiny to fight each other to the death so they can merge and become whole again...
sounds like piccolo and kami. ah well souls can heal and regrow over time if wounded but the time need it normals much longer then a mortals life span.
QuoteI'm getting this distinct feeling that a Were-Cubi would be rather OMGWTF strong with what you're saying...
Human Form: Cubi abilities + Immune to Magic = OWWW
Full Animal Form: Cubi abilities + Strongly enhanced magic = Nuke on legs
On the other hand, such half-breeds would probably be relatively rare I'm guessing due to Weres being no slouches on their own..
Except for the part where there are no cubi half breeds -- you just end up with a demon or being or whatever... and when they hit their twenties... pop goes the cubi traits over it.
Quote from: terrycloth on April 03, 2008, 06:43:37 PM
Except for the part where there are no cubi half breeds -- you just end up with a demon or being or whatever... and when they hit their twenties... pop goes the cubi traits over it.
Somebody hasn't been paying attention. That's what he just did there.
Speakin' which, weres are suddenly a lot more powerful than I'd initially thought in DMFA.
On the topic of handwavium, [Well I thought it was funny, but a big fan of not upsetting people today.]
No, he added them in addition like a real half breed instead of having them overwrite (because they're actually a cubi). Which is exactly what the comic says doesn't happen.
post (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,4352.msg185383.html#msg185383) seems to indicate the possibility. Otherwise, I think she'd have just said "Were/cubi offspring don't shapechange," as that's what Tapewolf was talking about at the time.
So my guess is that the kid would be a perfectly normal Were, save for having wings, until he hits 25 years old, and then *dook!* out pop the headwings, and he can do shapeshifting that doesn't effect his magical ability.
[Oops, that was supposed to be a PM. This is what happens if you stay up too late.]
That particular post doesn't say one way or the other, but the general point ('no real half breeds') that's been repeated OVER AND OVER AND OVER, as well as the comic that was just posted to answer this specific question, say 'no, you don't get to be both a full cubi and a full were at the same time with all the powers of both'. :rolleyes
Welp, there goes that pairing.
Quote from: terrycloth on April 03, 2008, 08:03:08 PM
That particular post doesn't say one way or the other, but the general point ('no real half breeds') that's been repeated OVER AND OVER AND OVER, as well as the comic that was just posted to answer this specific question, say 'no, you don't get to be both a full cubi and a full were at the same time with all the powers of both'. :rolleyes
OK, lets use another example... the Dan Matilda love child... Mythos AND Cubi...
Now what I'm PRETTY SURE Amber means is like this.... when a Cubi child is born, the child is the race of whatever the other parent was until they hit 20 or so... THEN the Cubi traits pop in on top of that.
Meaning a Were is just a Were until they hit 20 or so, then they have the Cubi traits too. The way Cubi seem to be described is as more of a subclass of each race. You have the non-cubi of each race, and then you have the cubi of each race.
I mean, theres mention of Cubi traits going on top of demons right in the comic.
Or to put simply, cubi is NOT a race, it's a trait.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on April 03, 2008, 10:43:14 PM
Or to put simply, cubi is NOT a race, it's a trait.
Yeah, that sums it up better me thinks...
I keep coming back to this page because Dantilda is just so ****ing cute.
Amber, what do you suppose the chances are of her appearing in a wallpaper sometime in the future?
Quote from: Kuari on April 03, 2008, 10:37:09 PM
Meaning a Were is just a Were until they hit 20 or so, then they have the Cubi traits too. The way Cubi seem to be described is as more of a subclass of each race. You have the non-cubi of each race, and then you have the cubi of each race.
this is whats known as a 'template', for instance anyone who plays D&D knows theres times where you take a creature and add a 'template' which adds diffrent traits to the base creature- for example 'half dragon' is one, and you can make a half dragon elf, orc, dwarf, fairy, whatever. its just a list of features and traits that can be added to any species that meets certain requirements, and thus the end product depends heavily on both.
thus its probably the case if you have, say, abel get his freak on with both lorenda and wildy. both children will be cubi, and gain equal amounts of cubi powers (i used same father so nobody can bring up the complexities of one clan being stronger or whatever) however a child of lorenda would be a demon cow BEFORE adding the cubi powers, so has a bit more mojo then the wildy spawn. however in that particular example they would still probably be roughly equal powers just by the fact that its wildy, i couldnt really think of another nonmagical being off the top of my head other then jyjy and i dont think hes poppin out kids anytime soon.
okay not something i need to think about on virtual sleep.
Quote from: e_voyager on April 03, 2008, 09:49:11 PM
Don't you believe it. if DC has taught me anything about comics it's that things that are done can be undone and made as if they never were. Megan may appear the again she may not as to the ten limbs it's head 1, arms 2, legs 4, tail 1, wings 4. not that it matters.
and this i post in the wrong topic due to said lack of sleep.
Quote from: e_voyager on April 04, 2008, 08:33:23 AM
okay not something i need to think about on virtual sleep.
Quote from: e_voyager on April 03, 2008, 09:49:11 PM
Don't you believe it. if DC has taught me anything about comics it's that things that are done can be undone and made as if they never were. Megan may appear the again she may not as to the ten limbs it's head 1, arms 2, legs 4, tail 1, wings 4. not that it matters.
and this i post in the wrong topic due to said lack of sleep.
and that adds up to 12 :P