I'm surprised Dan is leaving this part in...
not the best way to start an adventure. :)
But anything can be an adventure...Theres one right now! *point*
what gets me- dan already knows what chloroform smells like? theres gotta be a completely different story behind THAT
He seems to get conked on the head alot huh?
Amazed there is no brain damage.
Quote from: Schizo on February 15, 2008, 02:37:45 AM
He seems to get conked on the head alot huh?
Amazed there is no brain damage.
He regenerates through pain. No, wait, the brain doesn't feel pain. . . . On second thought, this explains a lot.
Quote from: Schizo on February 15, 2008, 02:37:45 AMHe seems to get conked on the head alot huh?
Amazed there is no brain damage.
How do we know there isn't? Maybe he gets just a tiny bit stupider with each head-clunking...
Or maybe at this point it has the opposite effect,he gets smarter.
......Think i will go beat my head on a wall for three hours.
it could be that he has long about shift his brain out of his head and no longer knows where it is. or maybe like the BNG mega man he's an idiot when he's not in adventurer mode. only amber knows for sure.
I read this strip about 20 minutes ago and I'm still chuckling over it :3
Maybe the club was set for stun, not damage..... >:3
8) Remember what Dan said he learn't in adventuring school, " If it moves, bash it with a stick till it stops ... "
( Re: # 507 )
Quote from: Brunhidden on February 15, 2008, 02:05:54 AM
what gets me- dan already knows what chloroform smells like? theres gotta be a completely different story behind THAT
"Does this candle smell like chloroform to you?"
*sniff* "...zz-OUCH!"
"Yeah, I said that, too."
okay Mr Wolf turn your club to vaporise.
Man I can't belief Dan fell for one of the oldest tricks in the book >:3
Anyone notice that the taur is talking normally now? Maybe she can talk normally if she puts in the effort but does not bother when she is with the snake dude since they are friends?
Oh, and I am thinking those two work for DP, just as a summer job. :}
An interesting point is that as Dan becomes less reliant on biology, things like chloroform are going to have less and less effect on him.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 15, 2008, 06:43:39 AM
Quote from: Brunhidden on February 15, 2008, 02:05:54 AM
what gets me- dan already knows what chloroform smells like? theres gotta be a completely different story behind THAT
"Does this candle smell like chloroform to you?"
*sniff* "...zz-OUCH!"
"Yeah, I said that, too."
actually i had expected it to involve wildy, handcuffs, and awakening to public nudity
Quote from: Fex on February 15, 2008, 07:28:31 AM
okay Mr Wolf turn your club to vaporise.
Man I can't belief Dan fell for one of the oldest tricks in the book >:3
an older version exists- throw a feast, make sure your victim gets twice the liquor you do, and then call for the burly men you have told can feast after the buttwhoop. however the cost of enough mead to inebriate even a handful of people probably costs a lot more then a tablespoon of chloroform
QuoteCan you help me please?
well that was kind of curious...
Does the mythos girl(s) in question have only one mind despite having two heads?
or
Does two-headed people in furrae usually refer to themselves as "me" and not "us"?
or
Is it a result of them having a bad english, as shown in the previous strip?
or
Was Amber out of coffee?
or
All of the above
Quote from: Akisohida on February 15, 2008, 07:29:15 AM
Anyone notice that the taur is talking normally now? Maybe she can talk normally if she puts in the effort but does not bother when she is with the snake dude since they are friends?
Maybe it's just when they both talk together that they make more sense?
I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
Quote from: Paul on February 15, 2008, 02:51:38 AM
Quote from: Schizo on February 15, 2008, 02:37:45 AMHe seems to get conked on the head alot huh?
Amazed there is no brain damage.
How do we know there isn't? Maybe he gets just a tiny bit stupider with each head-clunking...
oh nose! he forgot what chloroform smells like!
Quote from: Brunhidden on February 15, 2008, 07:45:12 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 15, 2008, 06:43:39 AM
Quote from: Brunhidden on February 15, 2008, 02:05:54 AM
what gets me- dan already knows what chloroform smells like? theres gotta be a completely different story behind THAT
"Does this candle smell like chloroform to you?"
*sniff* "...zz-OUCH!"
"Yeah, I said that, too."
actually i had expected it to involve wildy, handcuffs, and awakening to public nudity
Quote from: Fex on February 15, 2008, 07:28:31 AM
okay Mr Wolf turn your club to vaporise.
Man I can't belief Dan fell for one of the oldest tricks in the book >:3
an older version exists- throw a feast, make sure your victim gets twice the liquor you do, and then call for the burly men you have told can feast after the buttwhoop. however the cost of enough mead to inebriate even a handful of people probably costs a lot more then a tablespoon of chloroform
His adventurer training may have included instructions on recognizing chlorform and other chemical agents. It would be useful to know when to hold your breath. I remember chloroform having a distinctive odor and being quite recognizable before it reaches a level which would knock you out. (Ammonia on the other hand anaesthetizes the nose before it reaches toxic levels. So the danger with ammonia is when you can't smell it, which makes protection without chemical sensors difficult.)
Hmph, not much chemistry in Furrae, obviously! Chloroform isn't that expensive.
:3
Ouch, that wasn't pretty. I would have gotten suspicious when she asked "Does this smell like Chloroform?" I mean, after all, how many different uses are there for chloroform? Collecting butterflies, and knocking out people you want to kidnap. That's it!
Quote from: Alondro on February 15, 2008, 11:16:25 AM
Hmph, not much chemistry in Furrae, obviously! Chloroform isn't that expensive.
:3
Still more expensive than bashing 'im over the head, though.
Not once you take into account wear and tear on the cosh, the cost of buying one, the hiding behind him, ...
Chloroform may not be expensive, but timing belts shouldn't be that expensive either...
I know getting the timing belt on the alternator on my volvo replaced was about eighty bucks. Of course, I'm not a mechanic, so of course I'm not going to be able to predict price variations with any degree of accuracy - but I don't think that a timing belt would be that expensive.
I say this only because I'd hate to see Amber lose the money she just recently got to a dishonest mechanic. Of course, I could be completely off base here.
Quote from: Jack McSlay on February 15, 2008, 08:26:18 AM
QuoteCan you help me please?
well that was kind of curious...
Does the mythos girl(s) in question have only one mind despite having two heads?
or
Does two-headed people in furrae usually refer to themselves as "me" and not "us"?
or
Is it a result of them having a bad english, as shown in the previous strip?
or
Was Amber out of coffee?
or
All of the above
Perhaps she wants to hide the fact that both heads think for themselves? Or maybe, as mentioned, they each speak rather mixed when asserting being indipendant but when they act as one, they speak fine.
WHat I mean is..umm..When each head is acting and thinking alone, they do not speak as well, but when they act as one mind, they work better.
Or maybe one head speaks badly and has a different personality than the other head..and each head can have full control if they wish it.. So, if one head is sweet and nice and speaks fine, she can make them BOTH speak fine and be nice, while the other head could make them BOTH speak brokenly and act like her, should they need too..Almost like MPD with the personalities each having a head. :)
Quote from: Cogidubnus on February 15, 2008, 03:43:26 PM
Chloroform may not be expensive, but timing belts shouldn't be that expensive either...
I know getting the timing belt on the alternator on my volvo replaced was about eighty bucks. Of course, I'm not a mechanic, so of course I'm not going to be able to predict price variations with any degree of accuracy - but I don't think that a timing belt would be that expensive.
I say this only because I'd hate to see Amber lose the money she just recently got to a dishonest mechanic. Of course, I could be completely off base here.
Timing belts, from what I gathered, tends to vary in price depending on the car. In my case, the price isnt going to come from the actual replacement so much as the time it will require since they're going to have to hoist my car up and take out a good chunk of my car to get at it. The heavy-hit price isn't coming from the part so much labour and time. I talked with a friend who does mechanic work and he pretty much agreed that the timing belt would be the biggie because they would be pretty much taking part of my engine apart to get to the timing belt. Where as the alternator belt will be a simple snap on.
Canadian Tire is a pretty fair company and isn't really the kind to screw people over in giving them BS prices...their problem tends to be they have a terrible time prioritizing and so when they give an estimate, they will point out EVERYTHING that could use repair on your car and it tends to look like a wall of problems.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 15, 2008, 01:29:43 PM
Not once you take into account wear and tear on the cosh, the cost of buying one, the hiding behind him, ...
Why do you need to buy a hyperbolic cosine to hide behind?
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 15, 2008, 05:14:30 PM
Timing belts, from what I gathered, tends to vary in price depending on the car. In my case, the price isnt going to come from the actual replacement so much as the time it will require since they're going to have to hoist my car up and take out a good chunk of my car to get at it. The heavy-hit price isn't coming from the part so much labour and time. I talked with a friend who does mechanic work and he pretty much agreed that the timing belt would be the biggie because they would be pretty much taking part of my engine apart to get to the timing belt. Where as the alternator belt will be a simple snap on.
Canadian Tire is a pretty fair company and isn't really the kind to screw people over in giving them BS prices...their problem tends to be they have a terrible time prioritizing and so when they give an estimate, they will point out EVERYTHING that could use repair on your car and it tends to look like a wall of problems.
Ah, I see. Again, I'm not a mechanic, but getting a second opinion on it does make that seem a little less suspicious, to me - especially since it's someone you know personally.
My father buys and sells used cars. You really do have to watch yourself, concerning car maintenance. There are honest mechanics, but there are a lot of dishonest ones too.
That taur is way too cute. :D
Quote from: Yugo on February 15, 2008, 07:44:24 PM
That taur is way too cute. :D
Also seems kinda short. :)
Any idea what kind of taur it is? I don't recognize either half.
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 15, 2008, 05:14:30 PM
Canadian Tire is a pretty fair company and isn't really the kind to screw people over in giving them BS prices...
Yup, usually fairly fair. Not the best, not the worst.
Hopefully they gave you a KM estimate / timing for those down the road repairs, some repairs are even based on KM driven (usually the belts that are better to replace before they go snap and the car goes k-plunk, though they do have wear gagues for confirmaton) and if your lucky some of those "take the engine appart" repairs will come close together. I know I saved a load of cash replacing one such part a bit early during another repair. (Infact I think that was the timing belt)
Oooh and comic . . . yes that's what were here for :P
I'll have to remember this trick, I'm not sure where to get chlorophorm ;)
this might just be me... infact I'm pretty sure it is and it's probably a mixed result of the painkillers and residual perversion from the story I'm working on but...
Just now when I clicked to get to DMFA and I saw that two headed taur stairing at me like it had every other time all day an odd thought popped into my head...
In the grips of passion do you think both her heads react the same? or might they have differnt, err habbits. *chuckles and slinks off to the bad bunny place*
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 15, 2008, 08:44:17 AM
Quote from: Akisohida on February 15, 2008, 07:29:15 AM
Anyone notice that the taur is talking normally now? Maybe she can talk normally if she puts in the effort but does not bother when she is with the snake dude since they are friends?
Maybe it's just when they both talk together that they make more sense?
I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
I think that's it...in the first comic, it's only one head talking, and not making normal grammar. In this one, both are talking at first, and they speak just fine, but in their last sentance, it's only one head talking again, and fails the grammar again.
And on the subject of chloroform cost in Furrae, remember the sciences have been slow to advance thanks to Creatures. Chemisty, I'm guessing, isn't a very high priority.
Well, at least they know what chloroform is, Chemistry can't be that unknown in Furrae. However, I agree that there isn't a large rush to develop it.
Quote from: Aleolus on February 15, 2008, 11:05:37 PM
Any idea what kind of taur it is? I don't recognize either half.
I don't think you're supposed to.
*Point* (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/mythos.php)
To Amber: You could ask them why they feel that the timing belt needs to be changed. That would be quite reasonable. I would suspect that they saw something on the engine analyzer. I wouldn't think that this is something to be done based on milage. (Or would it be kilometerage?)
If you want to get chloroform, you could go to Thomas Scientific (http://www.thomassci.com/chemicals/chemical/12239). They have a wide variety of chemicals and supplies.
Quote from: Naldru on February 16, 2008, 07:05:58 AM
If you want to get chloroform, you could go to Thomas Scientific (http://www.thomassci.com/chemicals/chemical/12239). They have a wide variety of chemicals and supplies.
Interesting link. There are a number of people on another board trying to get decent isopropyl alcohol for cleaning tape decks, so this may come in handy - although the quantities they are supplying are a little on the large side :3
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on February 16, 2008, 12:25:35 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 15, 2008, 08:44:17 AM
Quote from: Akisohida on February 15, 2008, 07:29:15 AM
Anyone notice that the taur is talking normally now? Maybe she can talk normally if she puts in the effort but does not bother when she is with the snake dude since they are friends?
Maybe it's just when they both talk together that they make more sense?
I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
I think that's it...in the first comic, it's only one head talking, and not making normal grammar. In this one, both are talking at first, and they speak just fine, but in their last sentance, it's only one head talking again, and fails the grammar again.
could it be that one has the right lobe and the other the left? thus to function as a whole individual they must cooperate. if this is the case one is artistic and the other logical, but neither can probably accomplish much without the other anyways so arguing with herself is probably both difficult and full of headache
even if high tech such as computers, cars and videogames aren't popular on furrae, I don't think chemistry is all that unadvanced. afterall, they do need to know a good deal of chemistry to make potions, right?
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2008, 07:26:07 AM
Quote from: Naldru on February 16, 2008, 07:05:58 AM
If you want to get chloroform, you could go to Thomas Scientific (http://www.thomassci.com/chemicals/chemical/12239). They have a wide variety of chemicals and supplies.
Interesting link. There are a number of people on another board trying to get decent isopropyl alcohol for cleaning tape decks, so this may come in handy - although the quantities they are supplying are a little on the large side :3
For smaller quantities, look at your local pharmacy.
Quote from: Naldru on February 16, 2008, 10:33:56 AM
For smaller quantities, look at your local pharmacy.
Those are usually 30% water, which will rust the heads. It has to be >90% pure, which some people were having difficulty obtaining.
Quote from: Jack McSlay on February 16, 2008, 10:32:37 AM
even if high tech such as computers, cars and videogames aren't popular on furrae, I don't think chemistry is all that unadvanced. afterall, they do need to know a good deal of chemistry to make potions, right?
Not really. Potion making is a combination of magic and alchemy, the precursor to chemistry. The magic does most of the work, which is why you can get magical effects out of potions.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2008, 10:43:18 AM
Quote from: Naldru on February 16, 2008, 10:33:56 AM
For smaller quantities, look at your local pharmacy.
Those are usually 30% water, which will rust the heads. It has to be >90% pure, which some people were having difficulty obtaining.
was going to say "can't you distill it?" but then I remembered alcohols have a lower vapor point than water, so that would be more than a little counter-productive.
When I first read "isopropyl alcohol," I thought, "Oooo, alcohol burns!" I've got an eye out for flammable liquids which can be kept in Altoid tins. Unfortunately, the Altoid tins themselves have little hinges, which everything would leak out of normally, so I'd have to get one that's a snap-on lid, instead of a flip-open.
The mythos can look like whatever Amber wants it to look like. In this case, cute. XD
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2008, 10:43:18 AM
Quote from: Naldru on February 16, 2008, 10:33:56 AM
For smaller quantities, look at your local pharmacy.
Those are usually 30% water, which will rust the heads. It has to be >90% pure, which some people were having difficulty obtaining.
The problem is that alcohols and water form azeotropic mixtures. The alcohol makes the water more volatile, so there is a concentration where the water and alcohol have the same volatility. I suspect that the 70% is the azeotropic concentration. I would look in the yellow pages for chemical supply houses and possibly hobbyist centers. (Or whatever the local equivalent in Wales for the yellow pages and Thomas catalog. Take a look at http://www.besanet.org.uk
and she's right about the cost being high.. that's too night for me. 38 for a single 500ml bottle?
Quote from: Volfram on February 16, 2008, 10:50:18 AM
Not really. Potion making is a combination of magic and alchemy, the precursor to chemistry. The magic does most of the work, which is why you can get magical effects out of potions.
well that's my point really. if one can make a potion to shrink heads, what's difficult about making chloroform? While we make chloroform through chemical reactions, on furrae they could make it just as well through magical devices
Quote from: Jack McSlay on February 16, 2008, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: Volfram on February 16, 2008, 10:50:18 AM
Not really. Potion making is a combination of magic and alchemy, the precursor to chemistry. The magic does most of the work, which is why you can get magical effects out of potions.
well that's my point really. if one can make a potion to shrink heads, what's difficult about making chloroform? While we make chloroform through chemical reactions, on furrae they could make it just as well through magical devices
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_652.php
Heh, it does seem like a lot of work to make something like that through magic, doesn't it? Synthesizing chloroform is a fairly simple matter of mixing bleach and acetone while trying not to poison yourself. On the other hand, sleep spells are often pretty low level, so enchanting one into potion form could actually be easier than magically transmogrifying liquids into chemical sedatives.
Quote from: Naldru on February 16, 2008, 12:55:19 PM
I would look in the yellow pages for chemical supply houses and possibly hobbyist centers. (Or whatever the local equivalent in Wales for the yellow pages and Thomas catalog.
I already have a supplier - I thought your link would be handy for a couple of other people in the US who I know were having difficulty finding some :3.
Quote from: Tezkat on February 16, 2008, 02:22:49 PM
Heh, it does seem like a lot of work to make something like that through magic, doesn't it? Synthesizing chloroform is a fairly simple matter of mixing bleach and acetone while trying not to poison yourself. On the other hand, sleep spells are often pretty low level, so enchanting one into potion form could actually be easier than magically transmogrifying liquids into chemical sedatives.
that would depend, woudn't it? causing chemical reactions magically, can be easier and/or more magical-energy-effective than enchanting a potion with a low-level spell, or not.
besides, one thing videogame RPGs taught me is that sleep spells are low level, but are only effective on targets that are low-level as well
or maybe sleep potions simply smell like chloroform...
Quote from: Jack McSlay on February 16, 2008, 03:41:51 PM
or maybe sleep potions simply smell like chloroform...
I would assume that a bottle of 'industrial strength sleepy time' from jycorp (produced by a huge machine which makes 50 gallons an hour) is cheaper then paying a wizard to grind up some pixie testicles and brewing it for a day and a half.
Quote from: Brunhidden on February 16, 2008, 05:10:21 PM
I would assume that a bottle of 'industrial strength sleepy time' from jycorp (produced by a huge machine which makes 50 gallons an hour) is cheaper then paying a wizard to grind up some pixie testicles and brewing it for a day and a half.
Have you seen how fast those buggers breed?! One should always spay/neuter their pixies ASAP otherwise you are gonna have a whole slew of them. :P
As for Shira, she is kind of a wacky one. Don't get too fooled by the second head, there isn't a case of two individual personalities for her...she is more or less a single entity and views herself as one. Her biggest problem is her kind isn't really skilled at communication the way we are. (her species tends to have more a musical language that consists of duets and harmonies) It takes both her heads to get the string of words to come out right, however most times when she isn't bothering to make a good impression she will simply use the one head to make basic statements.
And I swear if it wasnt for the fact I know the creator is a nice guy who I have met, I would totally want to club the kneecap of the people who created the whole "taurs=herms" misconception.
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 16, 2008, 05:29:07 PM
Quote from: Brunhidden on February 16, 2008, 05:10:21 PM
I would assume that a bottle of 'industrial strength sleepy time' from jycorp (produced by a huge machine which makes 50 gallons an hour) is cheaper then paying a wizard to grind up some pixie testicles and brewing it for a day and a half.
Have you seen how fast those buggers breed?! One should always spay/neuter their pixies ASAP otherwise you are gonna have a whole slew of them. :P
As for Shira, she is kind of a wacky one. Don't get too fooled by the second head, there isn't a case of two individual personalities for her...she is more or less a single entity and views herself as one. Her biggest problem is her kind isn't really skilled at communication the way we are. (her species tends to have more a musical language that consists of duets and harmonies) It takes both her heads to get the string of words to come out right, however most times when she isn't bothering to make a good impression she will simply use the one head to make basic statements.
And I swear if it wasnt for the fact I know the creator is a nice guy who I have met, I would totally want to club the kneecap of the people who created the whole "taurs=herms" misconception.
Here I was going to suggest, based on what I've observed (where only one head talks, it feels like words are being left out) that the responsibility of certain words belong to one head or the other, and when only one speaks only that head's words come out.
taurs = herms? yeah, that Chakat guy has a lot to answer for...
One of the other comics I read has both a Chakat(two, actually) and a regular taur on the cast, and the difference between the two was established pretty clearly.
Some people think the reverse is also true. Herms have to be Chakats. Bah.
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 16, 2008, 05:29:07 PM
And I swear if it wasnt for the fact I know the creator is a nice guy who I have met, I would totally want to club the kneecap of the people who created the whole "taurs=herms" misconception.
Quote from: Reese Tora on February 16, 2008, 05:54:08 PM
taurs = herms? yeah, that Chakat guy has a lot to answer for...
Don't Australians come up with the neatest stuff? >:3
Say, she isn't selling girl scout cookies (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_211.php), is she?
Am I the only one who didn't see the club hitting dan at first?
no but don't worry the others won't admit what the saw either.
Quote from: Stig Hemmer on February 16, 2008, 08:45:28 PM
Say, she isn't selling girl scout cookies (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_211.php), is she?
Be careful here, only buy them if you're sure they're made with real girl scouts.
(Or should that be "made
by real girl scouts"? I can never remember which...)
Thomas Scientific generally provides materials for laboratories which require higher purities.
It looks like ACS reagent grade for isopropyl alcohol is well over 99% and spectrophotometric grade is even higher. What you really want is industrial grade.
Try NAPCO (North American Polymer Company) at http://www.napcoltd.com. They have a one gallon container for eleven dollars (US). This is apparently industrial grade.
http://www.first-aid-product.com has 16 oz. containers of 99% isopropyl alcohol at $2.79 (US)
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 16, 2008, 07:26:07 AM
Quote from: Naldru on February 16, 2008, 07:05:58 AM
If you want to get chloroform, you could go to Thomas Scientific (http://www.thomassci.com/chemicals/chemical/12239). They have a wide variety of chemicals and supplies.
Interesting link. There are a number of people on another board trying to get decent isopropyl alcohol for cleaning tape decks, so this may come in handy - although the quantities they are supplying are a little on the large side :3
Oh, come on. Who doesn't want a 54 gallon drum (http://www.thomassci.com/chemicals/chemical/13629) of isopropyl alcohol? A steal at a mere 2 grand a pop, even! ;-]
8) I think that someone has put a sign on the back of Dan's head saying " Hit Me " ... and the people accomadate the request ...
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w68/kaskar_photos/Vol505d.jpg) 8) He seems to be " The Fall Guy " all the time ...