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Title: 01/05/08 [Abel 2 Starter] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Sunblink on January 04, 2008, 11:41:20 PM
Boo freakin' YAH.

That is some good arts. Quite appropriate, too. Abel looks almost like he's trapped in a cage due to the shadows thrown over his tense, anticipative form. >:3 I'm probably deriving too much symbolism from it, but holy crap, I've fallen head-over-heels for this method of shading and coloring.

Hooray for Abel's Story. :3

~Keaton the Black Jackal
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: Alondro on January 04, 2008, 11:42:26 PM
*Charline hmms*  Is this the part where Abel meets cubi even more evil than me?   :3
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: techmaster-glitch on January 04, 2008, 11:48:38 PM
Abel looks pissed...
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: AndersW on January 04, 2008, 11:56:47 PM
I like the way the dark lines cross over his left eye.  It kind of makes it look like he has a scar.  And considering all he has are mental scars, it fits.
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: Fallo on January 04, 2008, 11:59:55 PM
It kinda looks like he`s plotting something.
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: M on January 05, 2008, 12:00:18 AM
Ohhh, very nice. It's so dark and foreboding. I really like it.
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: AndersW on January 05, 2008, 12:14:59 AM
I notice that the image is a different size than the other Abel's Story pages.  Is there some significance to that?
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: NDDR on January 05, 2008, 12:29:26 AM
compared to the starter page of the first part its the same size.

oops, i was lookin at it wrong, front page of first part is slightly bigger. hmm
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: Amber Williams on January 05, 2008, 12:32:28 AM
Quote from: AndersW on January 05, 2008, 12:14:59 AM
I notice that the image is a different size than the other Abel's Story pages.  Is there some significance to that?

It's called "Amber doesnt need to make borders for an all black image so the extra margins arent needed."  :0
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: AndersW on January 05, 2008, 12:39:09 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 05, 2008, 12:32:28 AM
Quote from: AndersW on January 05, 2008, 12:14:59 AM
I notice that the image is a different size than the other Abel's Story pages.  Is there some significance to that?

It's called "Amber doesnt need to make borders for an all black image so the extra margins arent needed."  :0

I thought it might be something like that, but it was odd enough that I thought it needed looking into.
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on January 05, 2008, 12:42:08 AM
It is very nice, yes, however the only way the shadows would look like that would be if the 'camera' were positioned where the source of light is, as the shadows do not appear to wrap around the shape of Abel's body.  Even then, it still wouldn't look right, considering the shadows don't increase/decrease in size/thickness depending on where they are on his body (distance from the camera).

...What?  Stop looking at me like that! D:
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: NDDR on January 05, 2008, 12:46:30 AM
front page of the first part didn't have a border and theres still an 8 pixel height, 23 pixel width difference

403, 609 / 415, 582  either that or i miscounted the pixels.  then again its only a 3897 pixel difference, thats like a beach being bigger by a few grains of sand, still looks awesome.

also try explaining that shadow theory to the people that filmed the lunar landings, the shadows were all over the place on that.
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 05, 2008, 12:53:54 AM
Oh, for crying out loud.

Give up, already.

In fact - anyone else mentions the change in file size, and the posts will be summarily deleted, without notice. Sheesh.
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: Grenn on January 05, 2008, 01:38:17 AM
Can't Sleep.... Abel will eat me.....
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: Dannysaysnoo on January 05, 2008, 01:41:34 AM
Don't look right into his eyes, or you'll turn to stone, while evaporating!
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: Poofyspikes on January 05, 2008, 02:16:08 AM
Quote from: NDDR on January 05, 2008, 12:46:30 AM
front page of the first part didn't have a border and theres still an 8 pixel height, 23 pixel width difference
Duh, it obviously means that 8 characters will die and this part will be 23 comics shorter. :B

Seriously. You amateur conspiracy theorists need to put all this energy into something more useful, like watching grass grow.

But on to happier news! Congrats, Amber, on your first cop-out of the year! And what a beaut of a cop-out it is!
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: rabid_fox on January 05, 2008, 02:18:04 AM

The Angry Abel Face is like sweet sugar to the dashing tongue of one waking up after an hour's sleep to get a flight.

That was a bad analogy, but you get the jist of it, I'm sure.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Hellcat on January 05, 2008, 03:48:22 AM
Wow, that should be in the downloads section....
Title: Re: 01/05/08: Abel's Story Part 2 - Starter Page
Post by: Omega on January 05, 2008, 03:59:11 AM
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on January 05, 2008, 01:41:34 AM
Don't look right into his eyes...

No need to worry about that as long has he's wearing that skirt/pants -piece of clothing abomination. Gyah!  :sweatdrop
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Zedd on January 05, 2008, 04:38:16 AM
Badass....Nuff said
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: kaskar on January 05, 2008, 05:26:22 AM
Quote from: rabid_fox on January 05, 2008, 02:18:04 AM

The Angry Abel Face is like sweet sugar to the dashing tongue of one waking up after an hour's sleep to get a flight.

That was a bad analogy, but you get the jist of it, I'm sure.

  8) Is Abel's clothing is starting to get more into the Aniz family line ?
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: rabid_fox on January 05, 2008, 06:15:42 AM

If he gets a fetching shirt, then yes. Though we're all damned to turn into our fathers, truly. Well, blokes are, anyway.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Raskahn on January 05, 2008, 06:27:36 AM
That is definitely going to be my new wallpaper. I was wondering if Amber would continue with Abel's story after part one ended, oh well, no worries.

And does this mean Gothic Abel will appear again? I mean, any outfit that sports 17 belts is bad-ass by default.  :)
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Amber Williams on January 05, 2008, 06:31:25 AM
Don't say I never gave you anything pointless. :U (http://www.missmab.com/graphics/Abel_Shadow.jpg)
(I removed the shadow in the offchance people wanted to see the art sans it.)
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Tapewolf on January 05, 2008, 07:12:26 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 05, 2008, 06:31:25 AM
Don't say I never gave you anything pointless. :U (http://www.missmab.com/graphics/Abel_Shadow.jpg)
(I removed the shadow in the offchance people wanted to see the art sans it.)

Awesome.  It wasn't quite clear if his claws were out in the final version, but yes, this is definitely one angry young man.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Netrogo on January 05, 2008, 08:51:02 AM
Excellent drawing Amber. I can't think of anything more to say then that.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Sid on January 05, 2008, 09:31:52 AM
First thought: "Rawr :3"

Quote from: Amber Williams on January 05, 2008, 06:31:25 AM
Don't say I never gave you anything pointless. :U (http://www.missmab.com/graphics/Abel_Shadow.jpg)
(I removed the shadow in the offchance people wanted to see the art sans it.)

Second thought: "New wallpaper. Rawr :3"

(Hm? Me? One-track mind? Nahhhhhhhhhh...)
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: MT Hazard on January 05, 2008, 11:59:22 AM
One thing I though at the start of Abel's story (Sorry if this has already been mentioned) Is that by the end we are going to know far more about Abel (originally a minor character) than the title characters, Dan and Mab. Over time I realised that was fine as Both Dan and Mab's stories will probably (eventually) come out in the main narrative but Abel's would not.

Did I just make an entirely pointless statement ? I really can't tell...
Oh to be normal...

Edit: Did everyone see my question in the Villa?
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Darkmoon on January 05, 2008, 12:50:18 PM
Well, also, you guys did pay to get Abel's full backstory. It would storta be silly for you to pay for it and not get what you paid for.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 05, 2008, 01:21:31 PM
Quote from: rabid_fox on January 05, 2008, 06:15:42 AM
If he gets a fetching shirt, then yes. Though we're all damned to turn into our fathers, truly. Well, blokes are, anyway.

The girls that are damned to turn into their fathers are -truly- damned...
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Poofyspikes on January 05, 2008, 02:57:31 PM
Think of all the money they could save if that wasn't the case...
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: sabs on January 05, 2008, 03:33:44 PM
Sexy Abel is very sexy. <3


Ahem, aside from that... >__>
I love the starter page - very well-drawn, considering I normally have trouble with those types of poses. I am in awe.
Also, the effects to the image were lovely, including the shadows.

Mwuah, magnificent!
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Angel on January 05, 2008, 05:07:56 PM
Oh my sweet merciful LORD.

That is, without question, the HOTTEST picture of Abel EVER. And the best drawn. He looks amazingly resilient despite being trapped, and I know this is weird of me to mention, but his wings and the position and attention to his arms amazes me. Guzzeh.

Awesome.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: MT Hazard on January 05, 2008, 05:12:58 PM
I think one of Abel's key worries that left him in such a mess is that he will turn into his father and do similar terrible things. For some people the simple fact they are even capable of terrible things upset them. However I believe that any person is, it something we have to accept and live with.

Anyone think Cubi could get more worked about that kind of thing because they don't often fall  asleep and thus don't 'reset' their thinking as easily?
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: rt on January 05, 2008, 07:28:41 PM
From the recent dmfa it looks sitting in a dungeon didn't cause abel to hate waiting around in the dark.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: AnizInDisguise on January 05, 2008, 10:32:05 PM
I do like indeed!
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Caswin on January 06, 2008, 12:28:23 AM
...I have a rather depressing feeling that Abel's going to find himself rudely (if politely) shut down.

Great art, though.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Lorien on January 06, 2008, 03:29:32 AM
Well, that doesn't look like a cop-out to me.  Its such a great picture and there really needed to be one before the second half IMO.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Goatmon on January 06, 2008, 03:38:09 AM
Unbelievable art, Amber.

Gimme a HELL YEAH!

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/Goatmon/SteveAustin002.jpg)

Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Ailis on January 07, 2008, 12:04:15 AM
Actually, most women are doomed to become their fathers.  Oh well, at least after menopause we can twist our moustaches whist giving an evil snicker.

It occurs to me that since Abel's mom is a Being, all he has to do is wait about 50 years and then take his revenge.  Mayhaps that is why he looks so evil in that drawing...
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: WhiteFox on January 10, 2008, 04:55:41 PM
Somehow, I don't think Abel's situation growing up is unique. As far as I can tell, Abel and Dan are both -half- cubi, but are referred to as full cubi. Which make me think that all cubi are from Cubi/being parents. If that's the case, I can see a lot of Cubi having mixed up childhoods.

Anyone else notice the duality between the last comic from part one and this? It's like he's been alone, brooding in the dark for 350 years, and this is what he's turned into. Very smooth, Amber.

I have a new desktop.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Roureem Egas on January 10, 2008, 04:58:10 PM
Quote from: WhiteFox on January 10, 2008, 04:55:41 PM
Somehow, I don't think Abel's situation growing up is unique. As far as I can tell, Abel and Dan are both -half- cubi, but are referred to as full cubi. Which make me think that all cubi are from Cubi/being parents. If that's the case, I can see a lot of Cubi having mixed up childhoods.

Anyone else notice the duality between the last comic from part one and this? It's like he's been alone, brooding in the dark for 350 years, and this is what he's turned into. Very smooth, Amber.

I have a new desktop.

The part about all cubi being the products of Being/Cubi unions isn't exactly right, since Aaryanna herself was raised by Cubi parents.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Tapewolf on January 10, 2008, 05:37:16 PM
Quote from: Roureem Egas on January 10, 2008, 04:58:10 PM
The part about all cubi being the products of Being/Cubi unions isn't exactly right, since Aaryanna herself was raised by Cubi parents.

Also, if each 'Cubi had a Being parent, the chances are they would be a lot less cavalier about killing Beings.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 10, 2008, 06:01:22 PM
Quote from: WhiteFox on January 10, 2008, 04:55:41 PM
Somehow, I don't think Abel's situation growing up is unique. As far as I can tell, Abel and Dan are both -half- cubi, but are referred to as full cubi. Which make me think that all cubi are from Cubi/being parents. If that's the case, I can see a lot of Cubi having mixed up childhoods.

Also, on top of what Roureem and Tapewolf have said, Amber has said that 'Cubi-ness is a switch. It's either you are, or you aren't. No half-way modes. So 'Cubi have 'Cubi kids together (or possibly Beings, but this is unexplored), or you get a 'Cubi or Being from a 'Cubi-Being mix. But, either way, it's either a full Being, or a full 'Cubi.

nuff said.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: Kayriel on January 11, 2008, 03:37:46 AM
I agree with everyone else in this thread who agrees that that is one SERIOUSLY sexy Abel pin-up. ;P And it is my background.
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel Starter #2] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: BarGamer on January 12, 2008, 12:34:14 AM
MY first thought was: "Sexy Abel cookie in a shadowy jar."

But in any case: Awesome art, yay! Angst, yay!
Title: Re: 01/05/08 [Abel 2 Starter] - Story Part 2: Starter Page
Post by: kaskar on January 12, 2008, 04:55:58 AM

  8) Love that Glowering ...