So true.
And since when does anyone actually beat those types of games...?
*runs*
Run, Mab! Never trust anything made of goo!
My friend Peter was near the end of the last one, don't know if he finished everything, though a good chance he did.
True enough, but you just know she'll hug it, then cross it off of her list. :)
Oh noes! Giant enemy crabs!
onoz, it's a red slime, those are harder than the blue ones! RUN MAB!
How many points do you get for a wild slime, and has she hugged one yet, to cross it off her list ? Since fae are pretty much immortal, a slime ball should not cause too much trouble, unless it turns into a sleaze ...
must...not....innuendo.....*fails the roll*
I'd hit that weak spot if I didn't fear the ensuing malleting.
*shivers* a little bit of me died in that. *sees the long haired shadows with mallets* PANCAKE IS ONLY THE BEGINNNNING! *is squashed flat only to reappear in the sequels by some magic device of plot.*
Seriously its one those things...But least someone should be prepared soon
I drown it with BEER! :)
I'm at a loss for what that game is. It looks like Final Fantasy IV-VII, but Amber said game, not games, so I remain confused.
Quote from: superluser on June 11, 2007, 01:08:23 AM
I'm at a loss for what that game is. It looks like Final Fantasy IV-VII, but Amber said game, not games, so I remain confused.
HEATHEN!
Hast thou never heard mention of Dragon Quest?!
Dragon Quest can be such a drag. :< I suppose if it starts going "puni puni," it'd be even harder to hug. Points if you get which game (series probably) I'm referencing.
Quote from: Valynth on June 11, 2007, 01:11:12 AMHast thou never heard mention of Dragon Quest?!
I have yet to purchase a system for which it is available. Actually, one of the main reasons why I want to get a PS2 is because they have Dragon Quest for it. But I'm pretty well broke right now.
Edit: Anyways, I'm booked solid for a while with games, since I just purchased a Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics bundle. I've heard such good things about Fallout, and the only one I've played was Fallout:Brotherhood of Steel. (OK. I'm done. Any more off-topicness about Fallout should probably go in this thread (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2917.0).)
Quote from: superluser on June 11, 2007, 01:18:13 AM
I have yet to purchase a system for which it is available. Actually, one of the main reasons why I want to get a PS2 is because they have Dragon Quest for it. But I'm pretty well broke right now.
You didnt own a Nintendo?
*cough*
*EMULATE*
*cough*
Quote from: MaskedRetriever on June 11, 2007, 01:40:14 AM*cough*
*EMULATE*
*cough*
That's illegal, and I don't have the time to hunt down illegal ROMs, right now.
A slime approacheth.
Quote from: rabid_fox on June 11, 2007, 02:26:12 AM
A slime approacheth.
How can you protect yourself against slime ? Do you have to take offensive action ?
Nobody needs to hunt for teh illegulz when I am an authorized dealer :3
*gets arrested*
Actually emulating old NES games is legal, the fact that they are no longer made and unavailable on the retail market leaves them free for people to obtain by their own means. Basically so long as downloading isn't bleeding money from the company that created it, it's generally considered okay.
Kinda like how you're legally allowed to download windows 95, 98, and ME. They're all no longer supported by Microsoft and only availble through used purchase and downloads.
And SERIOUSLY, why is it those kind of monsters are ALWAYS freaking smiling? I mean they're about to try and kill your face off, yet they're pleasantly content. You can beat them with a freaking street sign for twenty minutes and they'd STILL be grinning like today was the best day ever, GAH!
MAB HUG IT!
*grabs an camera to earn big cash for the video*
Quote from: Netrogo on June 11, 2007, 03:53:41 AMActually emulating old NES games is legal, the fact that they are no longer made and unavailable on the retail market leaves them free for people to obtain by their own means. Basically so long as downloading isn't bleeding money from the company that created it, it's generally considered okay.
Kinda like how you're legally allowed to download windows 95, 98, and ME. They're all no longer supported by Microsoft and only availble through used purchase and downloads.
Maybe in Canada, but I'm pretty sure that downloading pirated NES ROMs is illegal in the US. I'm not sure if it's illegal to emulate them if you've legally purchased them, since the DMCA is a rather onerous law, and it could be seen as circumventing an access control. Certain companies do seem to turn a blind eye to old ROM piracy, but I'll bet Microsoft would ask the court to throw the book at you if you downloaded a copy of MS DOS 1.25
Anyways, the issue for me is time. I don't have any ROM sites bookmarked, and finding the right ROM would take time. Not much, but enough.
Quote from: kaskar on June 11, 2007, 02:29:42 AMHow can you protect yourself against slime ?
Red potions.
Flan is more difficult. I think you have to leave it out in the sun until it expires. Blancmanges are the worst. I think you have to beat them at tennis.
I remember DQ:VII. Somebody was watching me play and said "hey, I didn't know they made First Person RPG's?"
(http://static.zoovy.com/img/gkworld/W204-H204-Bf3f3f3/att00021.jpg) Im sure one of you might want this controler still
How do we know hug is not an attack?,obliterate it with the destructive force of your hug!
I played DQ:Monster Breeder game-thing for a while. Entertaining little sucker. Turn them against their own kind! Ha! Haha!
I believe it's quite legal to use ROMS as a trial. Make sure to delete within 24 hours. That's fine. I know of a good site for RPG ROMS by the way. Not that I ever use any.
Aw. Dang, I check up on it, and now it's deleted. I liked that site. It was witty. :mowsad
Personally I'd like to play a game where hug was a selectable option, hmmm if green slimes taste like jelly what do red slimes taste like....? Anyway I think they've just been raised to let a smile be their umbrella (Like all the school propaganda about it takes more muscles to frown than to smile). Besides just because your about to horribly kill someone is no reason to be impolite.
Quote from: Netrogo on June 11, 2007, 03:53:41 AM
Actually emulating old NES games is legal, the fact that they are no longer made and unavailable on the retail market leaves them free for people to obtain by their own means. Basically so long as downloading isn't bleeding money from the company that created it, it's generally considered okay.
Kinda like how you're legally allowed to download windows 95, 98, and ME. They're all no longer supported by Microsoft and only availble through used purchase and downloads.
And SERIOUSLY, why is it those kind of monsters are ALWAYS freaking smiling? I mean they're about to try and kill your face off, yet they're pleasantly content. You can beat them with a freaking street sign for twenty minutes and they'd STILL be grinning like today was the best day ever, GAH!
It's illegal for ALL Nintendo ROMS (In the USA, anyways), although I'm not sure about other console systems. - http://www.nintendo.com/corp/faqs/legal.html (http://www.nintendo.com/corp/faqs/legal.html)
I've played the first three Dragon Monster Warrior games (Legally, I might add) and they all contain slimes. Those are what first shot to mind when I saw this comic.
If Mab squeezed the slime too hard in the middle, it would split, forming two slime. ( what obscure old game does that remind me of ? )
Quote from: kaskar on June 11, 2007, 06:07:59 AM
If Mab squeezed the slime too hard in the middle, it would split, forming two slime. ( what obscure game does that remind me of ? )
:ipod
Quote from: Valynth on June 11, 2007, 01:11:12 AM
HEATHEN! Hast thou never heard mention of Dragon Quest?!
Until today, never. And by the looks of it Superluser still has a better grasp of it than me >:3
So here's this GIANT ENEMY MAB; attack its weak point for MASSIVE DAMAGE.
:mowhappy It listed MAGIC on the options. What does this option do ? Change it into another form or something. And how does the point system work when you use magic ? In one game, you could be only allocated so much 'magic as you have allocated left on this level, etc...
Ok, the ROM thing is a major grey area in the US. Some say it is illegal, some say it is legal to DL it for 24 hours. Some say it is legal to DL it if you ever owned the game since you purchased it and now own the rights to own/play that game in any way, shape, or form. The way I see it, origonal NES games are now freeware; Nintendo is no longer making money off of origonal NES games because Nintendo does not make money off of us buying the games, you know. Nintendo makes money off of the stores buying the game, the stores mark it up (for a profit), and make money in the difference in price when we buy it from them.
Now, some of you may say 'Aki! If the game companies make money when the stores buy the games, not when we do, why can't we DL roms of newer games?' And I answer thusly; Because if everyone started simply pirating newer games, stores would no longer buy them because they would not be able to sell them and thus the companies like Nintendo would go out of business and we would have no games to play.
So, ultimately, we DO keep the companies in business when we buy video games, but our money is not going to the company itself; that's what the stores pay for. They may buy games for...oh.. (and these numbers are TOTALLY random) $40 a game, and then sell them for $50 and make $10 difference per game. Not alot, per game, but every 10 copies they sell makes $100 and you have to think, popular games may sell by the hundrids, per store, and thus they can make quite a bit of money.
Back on topic, alot of people (me included) see the older systems and games are shareware or freeware since the companies are never going to see a cent off of them ever again. The stores are no longer buying the games to sell them.
(and, on topic) At least it is not a Metal Slime! And Amber, you can draw backgrounds! Yay! :)
Edit again: My avvy seems to have gone away. I am trying to upload it to geocities but they suck. It keeps saying it was uploaded but it does not show in my user files. :(
Hmm dragon quest .. a 'nope' here too .. I was thinking final fantasy also, slimes, and blue and white fight-magic ect.
Anyways .. I choose hug :hug
;) And as the saying goes "It isn't illegal unless you get caught"
Quote from: kaskar on June 11, 2007, 08:40:10 AM
:mowhappy It listed MAGIC on the options. What does this option do ? Change it into another form or something. And how does the point system work when you use magic ? In one game, you could be only allocated so much 'magic as you have allocated left on this level, etc...
*sigh*
It's a -joke-, kaskar. Laugh, and move on.
In the original game, that's a choice menu. Once you select one of them, you get a sub-menu to select what sort of fight, or what sort of magic, etc, that you use. In some cases, a third sub-menu. I believe the last choice on the main menu is "run", rather than hug, for use when the enemy is way too strong for you. Despite that, I still think you're reading too much into it.
Quote from: Akisohida on June 11, 2007, 08:44:25 AM
So, ultimately, we DO keep the companies in business when we buy video games, but our money is not going to the company itself; that's what the stores pay for. They may buy games for...oh.. (and these numbers are TOTALLY random) $40 a game, and then sell them for $50 and make $10 difference per game. Not alot, per game, but every 10 copies they sell makes $100 and you have to think, popular games may sell by the hundrids, per store, and thus they can make quite a bit of money.
I feel I should point out here, just in case anyone is feeling like that's "a licence to print money" sort of deal, the store also has a lot of costs to balance out.
Just off the top of my head, there are:
- rent
- services (electricity, water, gas, etc)
- council taxes
- pay for employees (including sick pay, and pay for employees who are on leave, etc)
- tax on the pay for the employees
- VAT/GST/tax on the items
And probably others. All this comes out of that $10/game that you buy. If the employee takes 2 minutes to sell you that game ( a low estimate, generally - most game shop employees will talk to you for much longer than that, no?) and gets paid $30/hour (depending on where you are, that's not an unreasonable rate.) he or she will have to sell 3 games every hour. If there are two employees working, that's 6 games an hour. Every hour, all day, every day. And that's just to break even, and not go out of business.
Quote from: Akisohida on June 11, 2007, 08:44:25 AM
(and, on topic) At least it is not a Metal Slime! And Amber, you can draw backgrounds! Yay! :)
Indeed. I was going to comment about the background being well drawn.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 11, 2007, 08:46:50 AM
In the original game, that's a choice menu. Once you select one of them, you get a sub-menu to select what sort of fight, or what sort of magic, etc, that you use. In some cases, a third sub-menu. I believe the last choice on the main menu is "run", rather than hug, for use when the enemy is way too strong for you.
There was a game called 'Rearguard' which did this kind of thing many, many years ago. Like 1988. There was a bug in the random number generator so that if you were hit by virtually any kind of monster at all, it did about 800 damage points and killed you instantly.
It was still kind of fun. The best bit was when I took a hex editor to it. I changed the name to 'Beergarden' and all the monsters into garden wildlife. The chests became suitcases full of stolen jewels. It still had the sprites for all the original monsters but by carefully choosing the replacements it wasn't too bad. The boss monster was changed from a fire dragon into a fire snail.
I guess this thing on the Nintendo was where they got the idea from.
I don't know
There is slime in Zelda's windwaker game, too. But the menu reminds me of all the Pokemon GB games.
Isn't a Hug a Mab special attack.. an attack that which turns monsters into chibis... but oh oh it's Fan-art time...
Runs away to stretch pad. :mwaha
PBH
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 11, 2007, 08:46:50 AM
most game shop employees will talk to you for much longer than that, no?) and gets paid $30/hour (depending on where you are, that's not an unreasonable rate.)
$30/hour? Yeah maybe for the district manager, but not the guy behind the counter, unless he's been there for 10 years, which is highly unlikely. My roommate works for Gamestop and he's pulling minimum wage. The average guy behind the counter works for a little bit more than that... maybe $9/hour at most without being a manager. Heck if I could make $30/hour for selling videogames at a store then I'd change jobs in a heartbeat.
Heh.
ok. Even so - do they sell a game every hour, every day? That adds up, after a while... They still have to be paid, even if there's no customers in the store at all for three hours at a stretch - other than the browsers, I mean.
And then there's all the other costs in there - you can bet the electricity costs aren't small, either.
Where they make the most money is off of used stuff. People bring in their stuff, they give store credit for less than half of what it's worth and then sell it back for a mark up. I found an interesting article on this subject if you'd like to read up on it. It's called Confessions of a Game Store Employee.
This one's going in my mental 'favorites' folder. Not least because of panel-three(?) Amber.
I figure it's legal to have a ROM if you have previously purchased the game - the ROM then becomes a software backup which is perfectly within the EULA. And the emulators themselves are of course very legal.
I don't know about downloading older MS operating systems, though. This IS Microsoft we're talking about. They'd never pass up an opportunity to make money off of you, and if they find out you downloaded Windows 95 without paying for it, they'll come for you.
And on topic - I remember fighting slimes in Zelda II, though that wasn't a turn-based game. Oh I remember how cool it was when I could finally one-hit kill them, with a bouncing downthrust. Hehe, that was always my favorite move.
Quote from: Azraelle on June 11, 2007, 11:46:13 AM
And on topic - I remember fighting slimes in Zelda II, though that wasn't a turn-based game. Oh I remember how cool it was when I could finally one-hit kill them, with a bouncing downthrust. Hehe, that was always my favorite move.
Especially when you bounce on those jet jousters in the temples and end up going the same way as them, therefore bouncing on them across the screen for 2-3 goes.
Quote from: Azraelle on June 11, 2007, 11:46:13 AM
I figure it's legal to have a ROM if you have previously purchased the game - the ROM then becomes a software backup which is perfectly within the EULA. And the emulators themselves are of course very legal.
Nintendo doesn't think so. but then again, Nintendo also thinks it's ok to make your own backup copy of your game, but says not that long after that copying devices are illegal. -_-
Quote from: Azraelle on June 11, 2007, 11:46:13 AMAnd on topic - I remember fighting slimes in Zelda II, though that wasn't a turn-based game. Oh I remember how cool it was when I could finally one-hit kill them, with a bouncing downthrust. Hehe, that was always my favorite move.
What, you didn't upgrade your sword which effectively made all hits against them kill them BEFORE that point?
Quote from: Azraelle on June 11, 2007, 11:46:13 AM
I don't know about downloading older MS operating systems, though. This IS Microsoft we're talking about. They'd never pass up an opportunity to make money off of you, and if they find out you downloaded Windows 95 without paying for it, they'll come for you.
As I recall, it goes something like "for any machine you install any Microsoft OS on, you must have a copy of the latest version of that OS" or words to that effect. So to install MS-Dos5 on a new, blank machine, you need to purchase a copy of Vista.
I'm sure that makes sense to someone...
Oh boy... That game needed so much level grinding. Should I be proud or embarrassed of the fact that I put in enough time to beat it?
Anyways, made me laugh. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/jamesemotehappyanimees5.gif)
I wonder where people get the idea that copying anything that isn't being sold anymore is legal.
If an author/artist/software engineer or whatever decides not to sell a product anymore, the only legal way to get that product anymore is to buy a used original, wait for 70 years (depending on where you live) after the author's death or wait until you are given a licence to copy it. (freeware licence or something like that)
If interweb users say it's legal, it's ok.
But really, unless NES games pop up on the Virtual Console, DS, or GBA, I can't picture Nintendo hunting you down. Might give them the idea to port it, if they find out enough people emulated it, though.
Quote from: Kenji on June 11, 2007, 12:43:16 PM
But really, unless NES games pop up on the Virtual Console, DS, or GBA, I can't picture Nintendo hunting you down. Might give them the idea to port it, if they find out enough people emulated it, though.
"Probably not going to hunt you down" is a hell of a long way from legal, if you ask me.
Not that I'd let it stop me, mind. But then, I probably have a reasonable idea of how to not be caught....
Knowing Mab, she'd hug it, and then let it go.
[pre-post edit]Thanks, Dard, that's the short version of my post.
Quote from: Akisohida on June 11, 2007, 08:44:25 AM
(very long rant on roms, which is ultimately inaccurate)
Take a look at the legal disclamier of every video game manual you own for a console.(Nintendo, Sega, Playstation, Xbox) They all state that having a backup of your game is not necessary, and is illegal, which overrules the standard US ruling that you're allowed to have exactly one backup copy of any given piece of software, which only you are allowed to use. This goes for everything from the NES all the way up through the Playstation 4(coming in about 7 years). The reason people do it anyway is that for most of those games, nobody really cares anymore. This is what we call Abandonware, and is the
real gray area. Technically, the copyrights are still valid on virtually every piece of commercial software ever written, since US copyright law states it's valid for something like 70 years after the original author's death. In any case, if the original author's still alive, you're out of luck.
Abandonware is like downloading of unlicensed anime. Technically, it's illegal, and a violation of copyright law, but in the case of abandonware, the games are so old they're no longer being published, so the original author doesn't really care. In the case of unlicensed anime outside of Japan, the original directors aren't making money on it
yet, it's a form of free advertisement, and it helps US(or your country, I happen to be an American) licensing companies decide which series they want to license and bring over to (insert your country here.) This is why, for example, Death Note, and The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya are hitting the States very soon(if not already), while Avenger and Mushishi probably never will.(I can count the number of Mushishi fans I know on one hand, and I'm related to all of them.)
Back to my topic.
Lemmings 2 is technically still under copyright, but at this point, nobody really cares, because Psygnosis isn't selling it anymore(even if they do still exist.) It's abandonware. Okami, I believe, is also abandonware, because Clover folded, and Capcom decided it wasn't worth printing the disks anymore.(sadly. I give that game 6 stars out of a possible 5.)
All of you who are saying that Nintendo isn't making money on their NES games anymore, however, are dead wrong, and forgetting a little thing called the Wii. Nintendo's Virtual Console on the Wii has ressurected the copyrights on a rather large number of games, which you can now download, buy, and play using a controller which looks something like an SNES pad with a pair of analog sticks. They're
not abandonware anymore.
Downloading ROMs has never been legal unless the company said so, even if you currently own a copy of the game and are only downloading it for 24 hours. Those are things that people said to justify themselves and make themselves feel better. Besides, who deletes a ROM after 24 hours unless it sucks?
Having said all that, I do happen to have an extensive library of NES and SNES games, which has given me a new respect for console-style controllers.(thinking of getting a Playstation->USB adapter. $5 at Radio Shack)
Superluser, run out and grab yourself a Gameboy and a copy of Dragon Warrior for it. That'll cost you less than $50.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 11, 2007, 12:47:34 PM
Quote from: Kenji on June 11, 2007, 12:43:16 PM
But really, unless NES games pop up on the Virtual Console, DS, or GBA, I can't picture Nintendo hunting you down. Might give them the idea to port it, if they find out enough people emulated it, though.
"Probably not going to hunt you down" is a hell of a long way from legal, if you ask me.
Not that I'd let it stop me, mind. But then, I probably have a reasonable idea of how to not be caught....
Have you ever known people to stop doing something illegal if no one's going to stop them? All I'm saying is it might be illegal, but no one cares.
Quote from: Fuyudenki on June 11, 2007, 12:48:05 PM
Take a look at the legal disclamier of every video game manual you own for a console.(Nintendo, Sega, Playstation, Xbox) They all state that having a backup of your game is not necessary, and is illegal, which overrules the standard US ruling that you're allowed to have exactly one backup copy of any given piece of software, which only you are allowed to use.
... Although the legality of a disclaimer you have to agree to before you can read it is questionable, anyway. Click-through disclaimers have yet to be ratified in any court I'm aware of. Same goes for disclaimers printed on a manual inside a sealed case you have to buy before you can open it.
Let's not go there, though. :-] I think we're all agreeing that it's illegal, but everyone does it anyway. :-/ It's nice to know that the Wii does it legally, though.
Is that a poring? If so, I'll pick run.
Quote from: Kenji on June 11, 2007, 11:47:40 AM
Quote from: Azraelle on June 11, 2007, 11:46:13 AM
And on topic - I remember fighting slimes in Zelda II, though that wasn't a turn-based game. Oh I remember how cool it was when I could finally one-hit kill them, with a bouncing downthrust. Hehe, that was always my favorite move.
Especially when you bounce on those jet jousters in the temples and end up going the same way as them, therefore bouncing on them across the screen for 2-3 goes.
If all fails...use fire..
Quote from: Zedd on June 11, 2007, 01:14:18 PM
Quote from: Kenji on June 11, 2007, 11:47:40 AM
Quote from: Azraelle on June 11, 2007, 11:46:13 AM
And on topic - I remember fighting slimes in Zelda II, though that wasn't a turn-based game. Oh I remember how cool it was when I could finally one-hit kill them, with a bouncing downthrust. Hehe, that was always my favorite move.
Especially when you bounce on those jet jousters in the temples and end up going the same way as them, therefore bouncing on them across the screen for 2-3 goes.
If all fails...use fire..
Well there was no fire, but lightning sure did the trick. Guess you can't leave
everything up to us fires.
I found it interesting that Lemmings was used as an example of abandonware. Lemmings is now available for the Sony PSP, and the site for the game says that Lemmings is a registered trademark of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe. I would therefore assume that Sony purchased the rights.
http://www.us.playstation.com/Lemmings/
I'm not saying that Sony would go after you. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't make assumptions about nobody caring.
well, original Lemmings is no longer abandonware, as it was re-released for the PSP, but Lemmings 2 has not been re-released yet, so it's still abandoware.
And you'll note I did specify Lemmings 2 in my post.
Does this mean Amber is Doctor Doom?
As far as I know, NES roms are legal, and what is illegal is whatever rom of games nintendo made themselves.
If people are pirating roms of ancient Dragon Quest games, that's Square-Enix's problem, not Nintendo's, if any.
No NES, Sega Genesis, SNES, and N64 ROMs are not even in the grey aera anymore. Nintendo is selling them so they are not abandonwere. even games not made by Nintendo, case to point:Castlevania is made by Konami and is sold over the VC.
Quote from: Amber Williams on June 11, 2007, 01:24:21 AM
You didnt own a Nintendo?
You still HAVE to own a Nintendo. It's the only system with decent wallaby-related games:
(http://24.106.113.210/otown/RMLgameR.jpg)
Fun as that game was, it would be far less annoying if Rocko would just pick Spunky up and take his butt home. >.>
Technically speaking, nes roms are not legal, but Nintendo promised not to sue anyone for downloading them anymore.
Also technically speaking, you don't have to own a NEs or SNES to play those games anymore - there's an emulator out on the market that can read those games, and it's for sale legally. There's one that does only NES, and one that does both NES and SNES. One of the games at a mall nover here had both models on display and functioning, playing Ninja Gaiden and one of the Zelda games. Alas, they're about $100, so still out of my price range. :(
Back on topic, weren't those slimes also in the "Breath of Fire" games?
Violating copyright is usually a civil offense -- you can't get sent to prison for it. Instead, the company who holds the copyright can sue you. There might be some recent laws that change this (like the DMCA), but that's the general rule.
For a lot of old games, no one knows who holds the copyright now, so no one can sue you. That's the *real* abandonware.
Normally, the fact that something's not on the market would make it hard for the company to prove they lost money because you violated their copyright and make it impossible to sue over it, but unfortunately there's a set amount you can sue for for a copyright violation instead of showing damages and it's VERY HIGH. $250,000 or something, I think? Maybe that was just for distributing it.
Oh, services like Gametap are offering legal emulation of a lot of the old games, meaning Nintendo is getting money from Gametap for the right to let people play those games. And there've been several waves of compliations of old games sold for the PS2 and the like by Capcom and other companies. So there's a good chance that there *is* a legal option to play the games that you're choosing not to pay for when you emulate instead.
Best way to deal with a slime/group of slimes? KASIZZLE!
Actually, the best way to deal with slimes is from the "The Blob". Liquid nitrogen. Then ship them to the center of Antarctica. :3
*Charles wonders if phasers would destroy the blob...* Looks like it's time for Science! >:3
Would you believe, when I first played Dragon Quest: Journey of The Cursed King, I did not know it was in the Dragon Warrior series untill I ran into a Slime and heard the victory music? I was like 'waiiiit a minute! That is Dragon Warrior stuff!' then I found out Dragon Warrior was called Dragon Quest in Japan. :P
QuoteBack on topic, weren't those slimes also in the "Breath of Fire" games?
I distinctly recall the KingSlime that whalloped you six ways from Sunday in BoFIII (legendary game. The world needs saving from all sorts of nasties and nastiness and craziness but first, lets go fishing and catch blue whales with a small rod).
Quote from: rabid_fox on June 11, 2007, 10:20:59 PM
QuoteBack on topic, weren't those slimes also in the "Breath of Fire" games?
I distinctly recall the KingSlime that whalloped you six ways from Sunday in BoFIII (legendary game. The world needs saving from all sorts of nasties and nastiness and craziness but first, lets go fishing and catch blue whales with a small rod).
"Aw you weady?" "Aw, thass too bad"
Not to mention the anthropomorphic pickle.
'Hug' is the only viable option when using Mab in this situation.
I'd just like to point out a couple of copyright misconceptions. The rule of life+70 is only true for works created by a single author. Works created by a group (like most video games) are typically protected for 95 years from the date of creation. These terms are for works created in the US or the EU after 1978. Your country may have different laws.
Copyright violation can be pursued in the civil courts and/or the criminal courts (if you can get a prosecutor to take the case on), and it can result in prison time, but I think you have to distribute more than $1000 worth of copyrighted stuff before it's a criminal matter.
As to orphan works (works whose copyright owners no longer exist or cannot be found), the US Copyright Office has addressed the issue (http://www.copyright.gov/orphan/). Abandonware apparently got an exception to the DMCA (http://www.copyright.gov/1201/), but it's still illegal to distribute it.
(trying desperately to shut up about copyright...)
Quote from: kazzellin on June 11, 2007, 06:23:30 PMthere's an emulator out on the market that can read those games [...] Alas, they're about $100, so still out of my price range.
Go to your local used console game shop. They'll usually have used (S)NES consoles for sale.
Quote from: Alondro on June 11, 2007, 08:39:34 PM
Actually, the best way to deal with slimes is from the "The Blob". Liquid nitrogen. Then ship them to the center of Antarctica.
That won't stop it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carpenter%27s_The_Thing).
Hmm, I thought you defeated The Blob by throwing pies at it....or mabye thats the muppet version. :B
:eager In the Ghost buster movies, the move would be to attack ( shoot ) the slime, and contain ( hug ? ) it into a special storage container. Do you use big guns, or just use magic ? You pay a price each time you use magic ...
( out of curiousity, does Vista have an interperater so you can play all those old floppy disk games ? )
I wouldnt reconmend playing the old NES Ghostbusters games if your life depended on it.
coming from someone only taking his advice from a satirical online series...
Which shows actual gameplay that truly looks like utter ****.
And yet this all has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Surprise!
While going back onto topic..Now we know a few factors of this page...We know now watch out for Mab on the battlefiled..When shes serious or plan slap happy..You know someway she will get the entire party killed
We were supposed to learn all that from that one page? Wow I need to pay more attention.
Just kiddin. In all seriousness I wish Amber would do more Questions from the Readers like this, maybe one every other week or so. I find them an amusing little break and so much better then some other people's filler *cough cough dpd cough*
Agreed. When there's a QFR, I always think "Cool, QFR!" instead of "FILLER WHAT THE F*** IS THIS S***".
"You have come across a wild slime!"
I play Hunter S. Thompson with a plus six pack of beer and the magical LSD. Bad craziness ensues. :B
With regards,
Ted
Quote from: Azlan on June 11, 2007, 11:10:22 PM
'Hug' is the only viable option when using Mab in this situation.
You only see what is Presumably a fur fae in the game picture with the wild slime.
The purple head look to the wild slime could be of many different creatures,
depending on which level you have got to, and the color character you picked.
( If you were playing a real game ) Azlan wears purple, and is also a fae.
( do we get Neni in ? ) What happens if you undo your headband and show your patch ?
Or even undo the patch ? Extra power points ?
Quote from: kaskar on June 13, 2007, 12:02:41 AM
Quote from: Azlan on June 11, 2007, 11:10:22 PM
'Hug' is the only viable option when using Mab in this situation.
You only see what is Presumably a fur fae in the game picture with the wild slime.
The purple head look to the wild slime could be of many different creatures,
depending on which level you have got to, and the color character you picked.
( If you were playing a real game ) Azlan wears purple, and is also a fae.
( do we get Neni in ? ) What happens if you undo your headband and show your patch ?
Or even undo the patch ? Extra power points ?
:mowsad
Quote from: kaskar on June 13, 2007, 12:02:41 AM
Quote from: Azlan on June 11, 2007, 11:10:22 PM
'Hug' is the only viable option when using Mab in this situation.
You only see what is Presumably a fur fae in the game picture with the wild slime.
The purple head look to the wild slime could be of many different creatures,
depending on which level you have got to, and the color character you picked.
( If you were playing a real game ) Azlan wears purple, and is also a fae.
( do we get Neni in ? ) What happens if you undo your headband and show your patch ?
Or even undo the patch ? Extra power points ?
Are you freaking kidding me? Look closer, you can even see her forhead jewel sticking out! That and it's her hair style, and the whole hug thing is a direct reference to Mab's obsession with hugging everything with a pulse (and without). Also each Fae's jewel is freaking different, that we know of. It's. Freaking. Mab. Period. Exclamation Point! [/end of freaking argument]
Quote from: kaskar on June 13, 2007, 12:02:41 AM
Quote from: Azlan on June 11, 2007, 11:10:22 PM
'Hug' is the only viable option when using Mab in this situation.
You only see what is Presumably a fur fae in the game picture with the wild slime.
The purple head look to the wild slime could be of many different creatures,
depending on which level you have got to, and the color character you picked.
( If you were playing a real game ) Azlan wears purple, and is also a fae.
( do we get Neni in ? ) What happens if you undo your headband and show your patch ?
Or even undo the patch ? Extra power points ?
My cat cried when he read this. Azlan does not have purple hair and he wears a patch to appear as a feather winged fox. Even if Azlan was de-patched and fae'd, his form does not appear to have a head jewel.
:mowignore
Now that Azlan himself has spoken up against Kaskar maybe Kaskar will stop referencing Azlan all over the forum.
Quote from: Netrogo on June 13, 2007, 04:31:54 PM
Now that Azlan himself has spoken up against Kaskar maybe Kaskar will stop referencing Azlan all over the forum.
I'm sure he's a good kid, but he's really starting to grate on a large number of people. That does not stop many, unless mods are included in that, in which case he may be doomed to an screaming, flaming end that is strangely silent and many times ambiguous.
Quote from: Azlan on June 13, 2007, 04:35:43 PM
I'm sure he's a good kid, but he's really starting to grate on a large number of people. That does not stop many, unless mods are included in that, in which case he may be doomed to an screaming, flaming end that is strangely silent and many times ambiguous.
You make a good case, good sir.
-very- tempting.... ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 13, 2007, 05:19:05 PM
You make a good case, good sir.
-very- tempting.... ;-]
Give in to to the temptation... :P
Quote from: Azlan on June 13, 2007, 05:30:00 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 13, 2007, 05:19:05 PM
You make a good case, good sir.
-very- tempting.... ;-]
Give in to to the temptation... :P
Use your aggressive feelings and your journey toward the Dark Side will be complete! :P
Quote from: Azlan on June 13, 2007, 04:28:46 PMMy cat cried when he read this. Azlan does not have purple hair and he wears a patch to appear as a feather winged fox. Even if Azlan was de-patched and fae'd, his form does not appear to have a head jewel.
Might be the signature.
What exactly is with Kaskar's obsession with Azlan, anyways?
Like everything else about Kaskar, it'd be best to ignore it.
Make sure we get a giant lead pole...
Quote from: superluser on June 13, 2007, 07:03:27 PM
What exactly is with Kaskar's obsession with Azlan, anyways?
I've been kinda curious about that too. Not majorly interested but more 'kid at the zoo wondering why the monkey house is empty' level of interested.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/PBHunnydew/hugaslime.gif)
Reason Not to Hug Slime...
:mowcookie
PBH
That's awesome Hunnydew :giggle
Maybe its too funny for words :erk
:mowmeep Seems like a bottle of tomatoe sauce. If you sou squeeze too hard it goes SPLAT .....
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on June 13, 2007, 08:47:53 PM
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/PBHunnydew/hugaslime.gif)
Reason Not to Hug Slime...
:mowcookie
PBH
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 13, 2007, 05:19:05 PM
Quote from: Azlan on June 13, 2007, 04:35:43 PM
I'm sure he's a good kid, but he's really starting to grate on a large number of people. That does not stop many, unless mods are included in that, in which case he may be doomed to an screaming, flaming end that is strangely silent and many times ambiguous.
You make a good case, good sir.
-very- tempting.... ;-]
:mowwink I will do my best to keep the peace. The first step was for each person to point it out for the general group, instead of having it look as if one anti-social person tries to oust to taste ....
( Also, a Courtious hint always helps ... )
Quote from: Azlan on June 13, 2007, 04:28:46 PM
My cat cried when he read this. Azlan does not have purple hair and he wears a patch to appear as a feather winged fox. Even if Azlan was de-patched and fae'd, his form does not appear to have a head jewel.
:mowignore
We can fix that! We have the technology!
Well, okay, it's a gem and a hammer, but we think it'll work. Failing that, subliminal suggestions to Neni.
I apologise to Azlan to the purple fae line . I was merely going along with the identification box under
what I presume is a quote or motto, " Sore wa himiitsu desu " . The character there has quite a purple tint ...
Quote from: kaskar on June 14, 2007, 03:07:04 AM
:mowwink I will do my best to keep the peace. The first step was for each person to point it out for the general group, instead of having it look as if one anti-social person tries to oust to taste ....
( Also, a Courtious hint always helps ... )
Well if you mean privately with PMs and such, we COULD have done that. However this is the internet, where humiliation is the sincerest form of teaching you a lesson :mwaha
Anyways in all seriousness if you're going to try straightening up then I'll refrain from poking at you at every opportunity.
Quote from: Netrogo on June 14, 2007, 08:06:13 AM
Quote from: kaskar on June 14, 2007, 03:07:04 AM
:mowwink I will do my best to keep the peace. The first step was for each person to point it out for the general group, instead of having it look as if one anti-social person tries to oust to taste ....
( Also, a Courtious hint always helps ... )
Well if you mean privately with PMs and such, we COULD have done that. However this is the internet, where humiliation is the sincerest form of teaching you a lesson :mwaha
Also, the admins have tried using courteous hints. They had no apparent effect.
So we fell back on being less subtle. Sorry about that.
Dragon Warrior was one of the first games I ever got for my NES. I've also got the I and II combo pack for the GBC.
I still occasionally hum the overland theme. hum hum hummm hummmm hummmmm hum ha humm huh humm haa hummm...
Quote from: kaskar on June 14, 2007, 08:02:39 AM
I apologise to Azlan to the purple fae line . I was merely going along with the identification box under
what I presume is a quote or motto, " Sore wa himiitsu desu " . The character there has quite a purple tint ...
I think we had the feeling that the sig was responsible for the purple fae thing...
Quote from: Azlan on June 14, 2007, 02:03:47 PM
Quote from: kaskar on June 14, 2007, 08:02:39 AM
I apologise to Azlan to the purple fae line . I was merely going along with the identification box under
what I presume is a quote or motto, " Sore wa himiitsu desu " . The character there has quite a purple tint ...
I think we had the feeling that the sig was responsible for the purple fae thing...
Dont worry...Purple has the ablity to attract the narrow minds of others ;)
Quote from: Zedd on June 14, 2007, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: Azlan on June 14, 2007, 02:03:47 PM
Quote from: kaskar on June 14, 2007, 08:02:39 AM
I apologise to Azlan to the purple fae line . I was merely going along with the identification box under
what I presume is a quote or motto, " Sore wa himiitsu desu " . The character there has quite a purple tint ...
I think we had the feeling that the sig was responsible for the purple fae thing...
Dont worry...Purple has the ablity to attract the narrow minds of others ;)
As well as be damned sexy. Purple for the win. 8)
What is wrong with royal purple, reds, gold, and all those other colors . They can look real good at times .
( Of 'course there may be those that also like the flourescent greens, fire engine reds, and other color schemes ... )
Yeah, but you've gotta have the right coloring to pull it off, or those colors look terrible. (Or, in the case of the one overly obese woman wearing the red jumpsuit at MOA, it can make you look like a tomato.)
But... How can you tell a wild slime from a domesticated slime?
As for the eternal question of software piracy, we may meditate upon this truth: The fact that you can steal a given application easily, and do so without risk, does not make it "Free".
:mowhappy
Quote from: kazzellin on June 17, 2007, 12:37:30 AM
Yeah, but you've gotta have the right coloring to pull it off, or those colors look terrible. (Or, in the case of the one overly obese woman wearing the red jumpsuit at MOA, it can make you look like a tomato.)
:mowmeep Yeh, but they a slippery litle buggers too ... What do you think would be a good range of slime colours ?