Woooo my first topic =3 and I wonder how they will react to the head wings
Grrr, I was hoping he'd drop it or give it to his mom in this issue! Now I have to wait s'more! T . T
Mmm... S'mores ...
*hands Arzaelle a smore* Here you go...Nice and toasty...
Yeah I wanted her to freak out badly...Damn...Oh well...Time flys when your having fun..Right?
Suppose so. But it's still going to have to be a heck of a climax if she makes us wait so...
Abel's a bit more composed than I thought he'd be. Then again, I was guessing he'd burst into tears or at least cry a little over recounting the events.
I get the impression that he's a fraction of a second away from shattering and having a total breakdown. Either that or he's a lot more resilient than I give him credit for. I know I'd be a mess after a day like he's had. I'd spec further but Amber's repeatedly shown far more creativity and deviousness than I have psychic ability. :mowsmile
Magical artifact *degree*? I can't imagine a whole degree program centered around magical artifacts. I can see a course for identifying them, and a course for making them, and then...what, exactly? Maybe the college is a little like SAIA, and the degree like something you'd get from Walden College (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden_College).
I do wonder what Hennya's opinion will be, and what she might be able to glean about Abel by inspecting it.
Hey! She's supposed to be getting tea! D:<
I can't decide whether Amber gains or loses points for referencing the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers...
Quote from: Kenji on March 10, 2007, 01:24:57 AMHey! She's supposed to be getting tea! D:<
The water is heating up.
That's why you get iced tea. ;)
I wonder what sort of reactions will result from the head wings. :.
Quote from: HaZ×MaT (Edward) on March 10, 2007, 01:32:54 AM
That's why you get iced tea. ;)
Or fire magic. Fire solves everything... :shifty
Quote from: HaZ×MaT (Edward) on March 10, 2007, 01:32:54 AM
I wonder what sort of reactions will result from the head wings. :.
I suspect (oh no! I'm speculating!) we'll see a moment of stunned silence, followed by random hysteria. When have I ever been right though? :P
Put that tail away boyo! Step away from the pot!
Well, at least Hennya's wrong.
Aaaaah... supporting character development delays the climax yet another week... :kittydepressed
Quote from: superluser on March 10, 2007, 01:19:45 AM
Magical artifact *degree*? I can't imagine a whole degree program centered around magical artifacts. I can see a course for identifying them, and a course for making them, and then...what, exactly? Maybe the college is a little like SAIA, and the degree like something you'd get from Walden College (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden_College).
Say what now? :mowdizzy Creatures of various races have been making these things for tens of thousands of years. This is a world where magic has largely replaced technology--people have little crystal balls instead of telephones, at least that time period. A magical artifact program might be the Furrae equivalent of our engineering degrees, or at least something like archaeology. You could probably spend decades in the field and not even scratch the surface.
I'd say i agree with Tez. What Superluser describes is a fairly simple view of magic that is used, for example, in D&D. DMFA's world has magic that seems a LOT more complex and can take on all kinds of odd complications that probably provide endless amounts of different cases. I suppose you could compare it to modern computers in that respect - training lets you identify the components, and depending on skill take em apart and put em back together in different ways, or be familiar with certain OSes and general computer operations. That's my understanding at least. (To put it simply - magic is a BIIIIG field in DMFA.)
I knwo these specutlations may be right or wrong...Neverless...Never forget we can change ourself and hope look for a better future of the wecomic :D
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History of magical artifacts, Cultural influances in magical arifacts, basic artifact theroy and construction, advanced artifact theroy and construction, Artifact specialsations (magical weapons, magical armor, transportation, comunication, Housing, etc), practical application of artifact theroy, then there are the lab courses, interships with artifacers...
Quote from: Kenji on March 10, 2007, 01:24:57 AM
I can't decide whether Amber gains or loses points for referencing the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers...
Gains. Definitely gains.
Yes, I was one of those looser kids who watched the first few season of Power Rangers, you got a problem with that? :shifty
And Henya, the odds are against ya :giggle
Quote from: thegayhare on March 10, 2007, 02:40:14 AM
History of magical artifacts, Cultural influences in magical artifacts, basic artifact theory and construction, advanced artifact theory and construction, Artifact specialisations (magical weapons, magical armor, transportation, communication, Housing, etc), practical application of artifact theory, then there are the lab courses, internships with artifacters...
Thanks, TGH. Now I don't have to write that list up. :-)
Quote from: Roureem Egas on March 10, 2007, 01:13:37 AM
Abel's a bit more composed than I thought he'd be. Then again, I was guessing he'd burst into tears or at least cry a little over recounting the events.
Look at the middle frame again. He's about to. Although Lurking is right, he's probably just short of a breakdown (having lived a cosy life in the city - had he stayed in the village he'd probably have been better able to cope with it).
Quote from: HaZ×MaT on March 10, 2007, 01:32:54 AM
That's why you get iced tea. ;)
I've never seen that, but since tea works by absorption, you'd still have to heat it up and then cool it down, unless you're trying to make
QVC tea (http://nice.llearch.net/dmfa_forum2677.htm#ref37). (I still hold out hope that Hennya is going to do something like that).
QuoteI wonder what sort of reactions will result from the head wings.
Who can tell? I'm still wondering what Cid is going to do when he comes back and finds a monster instead of his child (a'la Compay of Wolves).
Quote from: Tezkat on March 10, 2007, 02:04:47 AMSay what now? :mowdizzy Creatures of various races have been making these things for tens of thousands of years. This is a world where magic has largely replaced technology--people have little crystal balls instead of telephones, at least that time period. A magical artifact program might be the Furrae equivalent of our engineering degrees, or at least something like archaeology. You could probably spend decades in the field and not even scratch the surface.
You could spend your entire life studying Roman alphabet calligraphy and barely scratch the surface, like Edward Johnston did. But it doesn't mean that you can get a B.A. in Roman alphabet calligraphy.
The only engineering program that I'm aware of that is so narrowly tailored is printmaking, and even that is a certificate program. I guess I don't have a problem if Hennya's talking about a certificate program, but.
As a thought experiment, try substituting the word 'electronics' for 'magical artifact' :P
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 10, 2007, 06:47:28 AMAs a thought experiment, try substituting the word 'electronics' for 'magical artifact' :P
I dunno. I still think that it would be a short program. Whereas in electronics you can deal with prefabricated solid state devices (transistor, &c.) that you connect, I have a sneaking suspicion that in magic, there are no prefabricated spell elements. And when you have that, it would become difficult to separate practice from theory, and at that point, you're essentially taking a degree in practical magic anyway.
But I didn't come to argue about that. (I'll concede that it's getting close to an EET degree, but I still think it's a little thin)
Well it looks like the amulet's powers will soon be revealed.
Either by some analysis, or wings popping out from multiple directions.
I'm wondering if a) Abel's two pair of wings will appear, and b) if....
Nah. I'll leave the guesses about what will happen when Hennya takes it until later. After all, we've got a whole week before the next update, no? :-)
Hi, I just registered to say that if Abel's wings don't go *sproing* or at least *POP* when they reappear, I will be very sad. :mowdizzy
Quote from: Reaver225 on March 10, 2007, 09:01:24 AM
Hi, I just registered to say that if Abel's wings don't go *sproing* or at least *POP* when they reappear, I will be very sad. :mowdizzy
I'm gunning for this: http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/wings.wav
Quote from: Reaver225 on March 10, 2007, 09:01:24 AM
Hi, I just registered to say that if Abel's wings don't go *sproing* or at least *POP* when they reappear, I will be very sad. :mowdizzy
I am hoping for the shoomp sound
and who changed my title?
Quote from: Fex on March 10, 2007, 09:18:41 AM
I am hoping for the shoomp sound
and who changed my title?
Odds are had you not changed it back right away, you could have read below the little "last edit by ____" thing. And keep in mind most mods are instilling a new policy to put the strip number up to help lesson confusion for readers since sometimes the date isn't enough.
So I would recommend you put the number back up before I have to go in and change it..and then give you a warning for going against mod/admin rulings.
Quote from: Fex on March 10, 2007, 09:18:41 AM
and who changed my title?
That would be me. As per standard, although I usually leave a note to say I did it.
I never knew someone to change something back after a mod changes it...
Oh, it happens. Not often, and usually only once per person, but it happens. *shrug* We give the person in question an explanation, and it never ever happens again. ;-]
Although... there are the changes that admins make on the mods. Bill changes those back all the time... :-]
I can't help but wonder when Kira gets its the amulet back.
Quote from: Reaver225 on March 10, 2007, 09:01:24 AM
Hi, I just registered to say that if Abel's wings don't go *sproing* or at least *POP* when they reappear, I will be very sad. :mowdizzy
I'm going to vote sproing. Sounds classier.
Also: I wonder if anything weird will happen to Hennya when she holds the artifact?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 10, 2007, 09:45:00 AM
Oh, it happens. Not often, and usually only once per person, but it happens. *shrug* We give the person in question an explanation, and it never ever happens again. ;-]
Although... there are the changes that admins make on the mods. Bill changes those back all the time... :-]
*whistles* hehe ^^'' uhm I changes it back but it would be nice if you left a note why you did it becouse me are slow with some stuff =3
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 10, 2007, 08:42:18 AMNah. I'll leave the guesses about what will happen when Hennya takes it until later. After all, we've got a whole week before the next update, no? :-)
Good. I do hate redundancy (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2166.msg89224#msg89224).
Quote from: Amber Williams on March 10, 2007, 09:20:55 AMAnd keep in mind most mods are instilling a new policy to put the strip number up to help lesson confusion for readers since sometimes the date isn't enough.
It might be helpful to stick that new requirement in the Rules. I think that most of the people who are starting new comic threads will have read the posts that led to this change, but some (clearly) haven't. I think that just about everybody reads the rules, and would reread them when they've got that (new) tag beside them.
Just a suggestion.
Something about a Mythos touching that amulet gives me a bad feeling. I'm probably wrong, but if I'm not... it's not gonna be pretty. :x
Quote from: superluser on March 10, 2007, 01:04:09 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 10, 2007, 08:42:18 AMNah. I'll leave the guesses about what will happen when Hennya takes it until later. After all, we've got a whole week before the next update, no? :-)
Good. I do hate redundancy (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2166.msg89224#msg89224).
Quote from: Amber Williams on March 10, 2007, 09:20:55 AMAnd keep in mind most mods are instilling a new policy to put the strip number up to help lesson confusion for readers since sometimes the date isn't enough.
It might be helpful to stick that new requirement in the Rules. I think that most of the people who are starting new comic threads will have read the posts that led to this change, but some (clearly) haven't. I think that just about everybody reads the rules, and would reread them when they've got that (new) tag beside them.
Just a suggestion.
*reads the rules again* O.O being banned for a day if you make a typo in the first post .... *hides*
I kinda wonder how do the tentacle heads of Abel look like? becouse so far I can remember we never saw those. We saw them hold swords but no heads
Quote from: Fex on March 10, 2007, 01:27:09 PM
I kinda wonder how do the tentacle heads of Abel look like? becouse so far I can remember we never saw those. We saw them hold swords but no heads
I'm not sure he has those. Apparently Dan and Destania have them because their clan leader is still alive (although I'm struggling to find a reference to that fact). I do not know if all 'Cubi with living clan leaders have this as a normal trait like the headwings, or whether it's a 'service' provided by Cyra to all his/her descendants which stops operating if he/she is killed.
Fa'Lina has them, but I suspect she is her own clan leader, so to speak. If it's a spell and not a default 'cubi property, it's probably something that only an exceptionally powerful 'cubi can do.
Quote from: Fex on March 10, 2007, 01:27:09 PM*reads the rules again* O.O being banned for a day if you make a typo in the first post .... *hides*
I think that's ``you're banned for one day if you publicly mock Amber for making a typo in the comic.''
Seriously, there's nothing more annoying than seeing some gal come in and point to the typo and laugh. And that's from my perspective of having to read it, rather than from Amber's perspective of being mocked. There's a PM function; use it. Nobody's going to give you a metric tonne of bay leaves for your insightful pedantry.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 10, 2007, 01:36:11 PMIf it's a spell and not a default 'cubi property, it's probably something that only an exceptionally powerful 'cubi can do.
Dan didn't cast a spell to make them appear (A) when they made him coffee or (B) when they nuzzled Matilda.
Quote from: Fex on March 10, 2007, 11:49:34 AM
*whistles* hehe ^^'' uhm I changes it back but it would be nice if you left a note why you did it becouse me are slow with some stuff =3
Sure thing, I'll try to remember.
Quote from: superluser on March 10, 2007, 01:44:07 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 10, 2007, 01:36:11 PMIf it's a spell and not a default 'cubi property, it's probably something that only an exceptionally powerful 'cubi can do.
Dan didn't cast a spell to make them appear (A) when they made him coffee or (B) when they nuzzled Matilda.
I think TW was meaning "a spell cast by the clan leader"
From memory, Amber has stated that the heads on the tentacles thing is an indication of power. Oh, yes. In his cast page, "Dan's new wing tentacles have draconic heads. While unknown to Dan, this is actually a clan trait and if Dan had paid any attention, he would discover that he is from a rather high and powerful clan."
So, yeah. I seem to recall something about the -number- of heads being an indication of how powerful he may end up being. Precisely what the heads are, and how they're provided - either by the clan leader sortof passing them down as a byproduct, or whatever - would be interesting information to clarify. I guess we have to go catch up on all of Amber's past posts...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 10, 2007, 04:12:58 PMI think TW was meaning "a spell cast by the clan leader"
I'm trying to wrap my head around the logistics of that. Does that mean that new spells must be cast every time new `cubi are born? Does the clan leader have to see or know the child exists? Is it physically/magically possible for the clan leader to gift heads to someone outside of the clan?
The other possible meaning (which I took for TW being deliberately ignorant to emphasize the fact that this information hasn't been explicitly explained and is thus non-canonical) seemed much more straightforward.
Quote from: superluser on March 10, 2007, 04:24:55 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 10, 2007, 04:12:58 PMI think TW was meaning "a spell cast by the clan leader"
I'm trying to wrap my head around the logistics of that. Does that mean that new spells must be cast every time new `cubi are born? Does the clan leader have to see or know the child exists? Is it physically/magically possible for the clan leader to gift heads to someone outside of the clan?
The other possible meaning (which I took for TW being deliberately ignorant to emphasize the fact that this information hasn't been explicitly explained and is thus non-canonical) seemed much more straightforward.
It could be something aquired by the clan leader, then passed on through generations much like a curse would.
See: Miroku from Inuyasha, and Sasuke and Neji from Naruto.
For instance: Clan Leader casts "Form Clan Symbol". Leader's clan was infected by the symbol! Leader's clan passed on the symbol via magic! Leader has died! Clan symbol has dissipated due to "curse caster" dieing.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 10, 2007, 04:12:58 PMI think TW was meaning "a spell cast by the clan leader"
Yes.
Quote from: superluser on March 10, 2007, 04:24:55 PM
I'm trying to wrap my head around the logistics of that. Does that mean that new spells must be cast every time new `cubi are born? Does the clan leader have to see or know the child exists? Is it physically/magically possible for the clan leader to gift heads to someone outside of the clan?
Amber seemed to be saying at one point that a clan leader is somehow able to project their power to all clan members - which presumably includes fragments like Dan. Either that or the leader is aware of each new member of the blood.
What I was trying to say was that Cyra might suddenly have woken up one day¹ and decided that they wanted to have heads on their tentacles and devised a spell to do it retroactively to all current and future members of the clan.
¹Or whatever 'cubi do for inspiration
Quote from: superluser on March 10, 2007, 04:24:55 PM
I'm trying to wrap my head around the logistics of that. Does that mean that new spells must be cast every time new `cubi are born? Does the clan leader have to see or know the child exists? Is it physically/magically possible for the clan leader to gift heads to someone outside of the clan?
Well, I'd assume magically casting something on a family, you don't have to re-cast every time the family changes.
But then, I -do- try to code things so that they deal with niggling details by themselves, and not come back and ask the user when the intent is clear. Maybe that's the sort of thing I'd expect the magic to just deal with...
I'd assume, as part of it, that the power that a clan leader gains by -being- clan leader is sort-of overflowed onto the other members of the clan, as it were. Tri-wing capabilities have been suggested to do that, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to consider some clan leadership to do the same.
The other detail is that it's -powerful- clans that have the tentacle-heads. So it's only when there's lots of power floating around that you get this side effect, as it were. So, in that situation, it seems reasonable that this isn't something the Clan Leader deliberately set out to do - like, say, Tapewolf's clan leader's screwing around with the genes of the clan to make them gay (most amusing, I do recommend reading that chapter to you. Especially the roses.) - but more a sort of side effect of the amount of power they gain by being what they are.
Having said all that - if it's something deliberate, I can't see why it wouldn't be able to be passed to someone outside the clan. Of course, that assumes that it's not gene-tied, the recipient is also a cubi, and a side effect of the passing is not pulling the target into the caster's clan. All of which are possible....
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 10, 2007, 04:38:46 PM
The other detail is that it's -powerful- clans that have the tentacle-heads.
Of course, it might be that they have to be powerful to make the spell work.
QuoteSo it's only when there's lots of power floating around that you get this side effect, as it were. So, in that situation, it seems reasonable that this isn't something the Clan Leader deliberately set out to do - like, say, Tapewolf's clan leader's screwing around with the genes of the clan to make them gay (most amusing, I do recommend reading that chapter to you. Especially the roses.)
Yeah - I had to cover a lot of the concepts we've discussed here to make that one fly. I've tried to write it so that it's ambiguous as to whether the heads are a natural property in some clans, or something that's deliberately invoked. My compromise in that case was that the clan didn't have full tentacle-heads, but Daryil worked around it to make it happen anyway.
The story is here for those who are curious: http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=691.msg87201#msg87201
QuoteHaving said all that - if it's something deliberate, I can't see why it wouldn't be able to be passed to someone outside the clan. Of course, that assumes that it's not gene-tied, the recipient is also a cubi, and a side effect of the passing is not pulling the target into the caster's clan. All of which are possible....
As you say, it might be that the spell uses genetics to identify clan members, which means that it might breed out if the clan fragmented and the blood diluted.
and supposedly if the clan leader is dead, so much for the heads. It has to be some sort of trait of the leader. (well, duh. that was kind of redundant, wasn't it?)
Maybe he just didn't want to get his mom scared. ( Damned computer ) :compbash my computer wasn't working well earlier.
*Charline grins* I suspect that not only will Abel's head-wings suddenly be revealed, but since Henya was not given the amulet by its owner, it will have a defensive reaction and KILL both her and Abel's mom! Then he'll be all alone, surrounded by the bodies of his loved ones... broken utterly... ready to be taken in by Fa'lina and molded to cubi evil! >:3
I like thinking about these sorts of things! *happy ebil lioness shuffle* :boogie
The most a sensible person puts on such an item would be an eletrical shock. After all, Kria required no chant to register it to Abel, and it's a simple disguise charm. Not to mention it seems like anyone could cast detect magic to reveal its nature if need be.
It would be cool if Abel's mom took it, and suddenly she wasn't Abel's mom anymore.
I just feel that bad things will happen to Hennya if she takes it ... seems to be the trend in this story that happy people are punished quickly and harshly.
*Charline hisses at Mana* You don't know how to have fun! FUN would be to have the amulet cause their bodies to explode into liquidy-bloody flesh-ooze that would splash all over Abel and make him have seizures from the mental trauma. >:3
I'm sure Dr. Ink would agree with me! >:3
Quote from: Alondro on March 10, 2007, 09:44:40 PM*Charline hisses at Mana* You don't know how to have fun! FUN would be to have the amulet cause their bodies to explode into liquidy-bloody flesh-ooze that would splash all over Abel and make him have seizures from the mental trauma. >:3
Once again, I must emphasize that exploding liquids on your enemies are never good, unless you have a tarp to protect yourself.
Or did you mean that no matter where in the world Abel is, whenever someone wears a charm, blood will splash all over Abel?
That could be entertaining....
Quote from: Alondro on March 10, 2007, 09:44:40 PM
*Charline hisses at Mana* You don't know how to have fun! FUN would be to have the amulet cause their bodies to explode into liquidy-bloody flesh-ooze that would splash all over Abel and make him have seizures from the mental trauma. >:3
I'm sure Dr. Ink would agree with me! >:3
Anyone can go after an innocent, it taks a MAN to rip apart zombie soldiers limb from limb with their bare hands.
The innocent are just no fun. There's no sport in taking down someone who can hardly prepare for an earthquake disaster, let alone a killer on the loose.
What about hi-scores? Doesn't that count? You can make competition out of practically anything!
Hennya can't die. Who would make the tea?
Dr. Ink would make the tea... >:3
Quote from: Alondro on March 11, 2007, 08:59:00 PM
Dr. Ink would make the tea... >:3
You like to make reason for him to do all the hard work dont you?
Nobody would make the tea, everyone would drink coffee like normal people. D:
Or Red Bull.
*Charles can't take it anymore!* I'm takin everybody out! *mixes Coke and Pepsi together!*
*Charline gasps!* NU U FUUL!! :U
*the universe explodiated... THE END*
*points to the human boy* He did eet...
But that amulet I have a feeling the sound will be a *FWSHAASH* and the headwings of Abel will appear. His Mother will go into shock and then will praise Abel for the headwings.
Then we will have a Kodak moment with Henna has the camera on hand. I say cool but strange at the same time. But in any case Kria will come at the home of Abel and will ask for that amulet back.
How do you think Able's mom will when she finds out that he is a incubus?
:T Mighty early to speculate boyo
*shunt*
Hiya, we have a thread here already! Woot! Isn't that neat?
(ie, this is a subtle message. Do pay attention to it, and ask if you're confused.)
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 10, 2007, 01:36:11 PM
Quote from: Fex on March 10, 2007, 01:27:09 PM
I kinda wonder how do the tentacle heads of Abel look like? becouse so far I can remember we never saw those. We saw them hold swords but no heads
I'm not sure he has those. Apparently Dan and Destania have them because their clan leader is still alive (although I'm struggling to find a reference to that fact). I do not know if all 'Cubi with living clan leaders have this as a normal trait like the headwings, or whether it's a 'service' provided by Cyra to all his/her descendants which stops operating if he/she is killed.
Fa'Lina has them, but I suspect she is her own clan leader, so to speak. If it's a spell and not a default 'cubi property, it's probably something that only an exceptionally powerful 'cubi can do.
The information about tentacles heads reflecting founder status appeared on Aary's LJ, but I can't remember whether or not Amber confirmed it. Most of the LJ stuff has turned out to be consistent with DMFA canon, though...
At times it's better to not be too artistic in the comic strip . It seems to be a simple comic for simple minds . Most of the times , do you really need or want super artistic comics you only see once a week ? At least Amber usually has a decent refresh rate .
A Being to Creature Amulet for some characters, at times ....