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Title: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: bill on February 09, 2007, 09:53:51 PM
I predict death and blood and murder and awesomeness.  :)

Or maybe some crying and sobbing and drama and needing to go to rehab. You can't really tell with this story. :<
Title: Re: 09/09/09 - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Aridas on February 09, 2007, 09:58:03 PM
YAY shadows on the door(?), my speculation is that people will speculate on the significance of that last panel.
Title: Re: 09/09/09 - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: bill on February 09, 2007, 09:58:57 PM
i think its biggs because it kinda looks like him.  :<
Title: Re: 09/09/09 - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Alondro on February 09, 2007, 09:59:10 PM
Hmm, is this for the 10th?  I know it's still the 9th, but it's the comic for tomorrow.  

*Charline grins*  And now for the killing off of more family and friends.  Delightful!   >:3
Title: Re: 09/09/09 - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: bill on February 09, 2007, 09:59:33 PM
Quote from: Alondro on February 09, 2007, 09:59:10 PM
Hmm, is this for the 10th?  I know it's still the 9th, but it's the comic for tomorrow. 

*Charline grins*  And now for the killing off of more family and friends.  Delightful!   >:3
It's my bloody birthday, I get to set the date to it.  >:3
Title: Re: 09/09/09 - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 09, 2007, 09:59:41 PM
heh.


Yeah, I bet that'll be just what Abel needs. Not.

*whistles innocently*

(No.  :<)
Title: Re: 09/09/09 - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Kenji on February 09, 2007, 10:00:02 PM
That shadow isn't Abel. D: It's Shadow Abel! A fiend created by the reflection of Abel on magic water that he stumbled across during his journey into the Water Temple! It's true, I tell you!
Title: Re: 10/09/09 - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: bill on February 09, 2007, 10:00:20 PM
I'll add it to the Wiki.  ;)
Title: Re: 09/09/09 - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Sid on February 09, 2007, 10:01:03 PM
*looks at date* You know, it's the update for Feb 10 Oh fine, birthday dude :P

I think a nervous breakdown is inevitable... assuming that that's Abel at the door o.o
And Hennya out-cutes everything in the second and third panels xD

(Oh come ON, ninja'd twice three FOUR times?)
Title: Re: 10/09/09 GMT - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 09, 2007, 10:03:04 PM
I got ninja'd twice. The first time with 3 posts, the second time with one.

I guess we're just really really excited about it all :-)
Title: Re: 10/09/09 - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Zedd on February 09, 2007, 10:03:34 PM
Happy news indeed she says...I am just wondering how she can face her son broken like a cheap plastic toy
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: bill on February 09, 2007, 10:03:51 PM
Is this satisfactory to Lord Box the Boxxy?  :<
Title: Re: 09/09/09 - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Jim Halisstrad on February 09, 2007, 10:07:55 PM
Huh.  Head snakes.  She needs to have that looked at.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 09, 2007, 10:12:48 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on February 09, 2007, 10:03:51 PM
Is this satisfactory to Lord Box the Boxxy?  :<

*rotfl* I'd stopped, actually. But yes, that's just fine. :-)
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: bill on February 09, 2007, 10:14:15 PM
Incidentally, I'd like to know if I set a record for comic-to-new-topic speed.  8)
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Stygian on February 09, 2007, 10:15:07 PM
QuoteHuh.  Head snakes.  She needs to have that looked at.

What? I am already looking at them. So are lots of other people, I think...

Oh, and the lady of headsnake wants Abel for honour maiden? That's... odd. Shapeshifting magic, yes, but still...

In either case, this just seems too wonderful. Now, I shall get drunk to honour this update. But I already am, so... I shall get drunker.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Yugo on February 09, 2007, 10:28:13 PM
Hennya is so cute. =D
This should prove to be interesting. Abel is broken beyond belief, coming home to an incredibly joyful and cute Hennya along with his mother. Worlds will collide! D:

In other news, happy birthday to the birthday dude.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Boog on February 09, 2007, 10:33:44 PM
Abel's story! Now with 50% more "Wait... What?"

"Wait... What?" # 1 -> Maiden? My guess is that her breed of mythos is either hyrmaphrowhatsits or simply don't use gender related pronouns in their native tongue, and thus don't see the point of them. Seeing as she could also be Mer, it could just be freaking weird.

"Wait... What?" # 2 -> Speculation over; we know exactly which of Abel's parents is the creature. We were fairly sure before, but still.

"Wait... What?" # 3 -> Either she knew the attack was coming or she just read Abel's mind. If it's the first, that brings up moral issues, and if the second, why hasn't she gone to her son yet?

"Wait... What?" # 4 -> If that shadow isn't Abel, it's probably Cid. How pissed do you think he'll be upon seeing his wife all tentacular?
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Kenji on February 09, 2007, 10:36:33 PM
Quote from: Boogeyman on February 09, 2007, 10:33:44 PM
"Wait... What?" # 4 -> If that shadow isn't Abel, it's probably Cid. How pissed do you think he'll be upon seeing his wife all tentacular?

Fuh? Where does she have tentacles?
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Faerie Alex on February 09, 2007, 10:36:46 PM
I wonder who Ahnora is. Maybe he's the teacher from earlier. Hmm...

Quote from: StygianOh, and the lady of headsnake wants Abel for honour maiden? That's... odd. Shapeshifting magic, yes, but still...
Or maybe she just thinks Abel looks girly. It's happened before. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_428.php)
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Moonfire on February 09, 2007, 10:39:55 PM
Quote from: modelincard on February 09, 2007, 10:36:46 PM
I wonder who Ahnora is. Maybe he's the teacher from earlier. Hmm...

He got a mention back in http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_28.php
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Faerie Alex on February 09, 2007, 10:42:14 PM
Oh. I didn't notice that. Thanks. :tmyk
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Boog on February 09, 2007, 10:43:39 PM
Quote from: Kenji on February 09, 2007, 10:36:33 PM
Quote from: Boogeyman on February 09, 2007, 10:33:44 PM
"Wait... What?" # 4 -> If that shadow isn't Abel, it's probably Cid. How pissed do you think he'll be upon seeing his wife all tentacular?

Fuh? Where does she have tentacles?
Oooh, wait, mistook the snakehead on the girl in panal 3 for being attatched to a nearby distinctively spotted tail.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Regal on February 09, 2007, 10:51:31 PM
Quote from: Boogeyman on February 09, 2007, 10:33:44 PM

"Wait... What?" # 3 -> Either she knew the attack was coming or she just read Abel's mind. If it's the first, that brings up moral issues, and if the second, why hasn't she gone to her son yet?


Are we reading the same comic?
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Boog on February 09, 2007, 10:55:30 PM
Quote from: Regal on February 09, 2007, 10:51:31 PM
Quote from: Boogeyman on February 09, 2007, 10:33:44 PM

"Wait... What?" # 3 -> Either she knew the attack was coming or she just read Abel's mind. If it's the first, that brings up moral issues, and if the second, why hasn't she gone to her son yet?


Are we reading the same comic?

*facepalm* She said he just got back from a funeral. I thought she meant seeing Devin die, but I'd forgotten about the babysitter. Alright, only 25%

EDIT: The first bit, where it's the snake head on the mythos. Only one "Wait... what?" My bad.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 09, 2007, 10:58:06 PM
Interestingly, whilst making up the scripts, I noted:

- We've met Hennya before, in strips 31 and 32, although she only spoke in strip 32 (her hair is longer now)
- We've met mention of Ahnora before, in strip 28 (he's a guy, though - the one Abel thinks tattooed him, and the host of the party where it happened...)
- If you look at strip 30, you can see Cid's eyepatch band looks very much like the rim around the shadow. Although it looks like he might have the patch flicked up - or it might just be hair...
- The other thought is that the shadow could be the Press dropping in for a chat....
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Regal on February 09, 2007, 11:07:35 PM
Check strips #23 and #24.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Kenji on February 09, 2007, 11:12:38 PM
Quote from: Moonfire on February 09, 2007, 10:39:55 PM
Quote from: modelincard on February 09, 2007, 10:36:46 PM
I wonder who Ahnora is. Maybe he's the teacher from earlier. Hmm...

He got a mention back in http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_28.php

Ah, bachelor parties...
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: VSMIT on February 09, 2007, 11:59:21 PM
Quote from: Regal on February 09, 2007, 11:07:35 PM
Check strips #23 and #24.

Wow.  I just realized how much bigger a child's eyes are compared to the rest of their heads than an adult's.  Compare #24 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_24.php) to #72 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_72.php).
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Valynth on February 10, 2007, 12:04:42 AM
Quote from: Boogeyman on February 09, 2007, 10:33:44 PM
"Wait... What?" # 2 -> Speculation over; we know exactly which of Abel's parents is the creature. We were fairly sure before, but still.


When did we find out about that?  As far as I know it seems either one could be it.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: VSMIT on February 10, 2007, 12:08:16 AM
Quote from: Valynth on February 10, 2007, 12:04:42 AM
When did we find out about that?  As far as I know it seems either one could be it.

Boogeyman was speculating based on only this comic.  He forgot that Abel actually went to a funeral.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Valynth on February 10, 2007, 12:20:43 AM
Personally, I'm in favor of the "father replaced by cubi" scenario.  Mainly because Abel has a green eye and we know where he gets the blue one from.

Side theory:  Maybe Abel's father saved a cubi, but the effort ended up killing him and his dieing wish was for the cubi to protect his wife so the cubi covertly replaces him as the husband as a means of fulfilling the wish.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: superluser on February 10, 2007, 12:41:04 AM
Whoof.

Meat cookies at a feast?  This is looking more and more like Titus Andronicus.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Madd the Sane on February 10, 2007, 12:44:17 AM
Quote from: Moonfire on February 09, 2007, 10:39:55 PM
Quote from: modelincard on February 09, 2007, 10:36:46 PM
I wonder who Ahnora is. Maybe he's the teacher from earlier. Hmm...

He got a mention back in http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_28.php
Quote from: Regal on February 09, 2007, 11:07:35 PM
Check strips #23 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_23.php) and #24 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_24.php).
...he might be one of the children there.
I didn't notice that the girls' headsnakes laughed in 24  :B
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: VSMIT on February 10, 2007, 12:54:07 AM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on February 10, 2007, 12:44:17 AM
...he might be one of the children there.

If I had to guess, I would say that he is the rat behind Hennya.  I just can't imagine him with wings.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: LigerJet on February 10, 2007, 01:25:56 AM
Hmm...I don't think it's Cid.  Would not his ear be messed up in the shadow?
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Aridas on February 10, 2007, 02:23:06 AM
Quote from: dragongw on February 09, 2007, 11:59:21 PM
Quote from: Regal on February 09, 2007, 11:07:35 PMCheck strips #23 and #24.
Wow.  I just realized how much bigger a child's eyes are compared to the rest of their heads than an adult's.  Compare #24 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_24.php) to #72 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_72.php).
I thought that was the logical thing... What I keep being told is that the eyes are the only part of the body that don't grow sideways, only from front-back.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: VSMIT on February 10, 2007, 02:49:04 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on February 10, 2007, 02:23:06 AM
I thought that was the logical thing... What I keep being told is that the eyes are the only part of the body that don't grow sideways, only from front-back.
I'm more of a Chemistry guy.  I only took a year of Bio, and I thought that the eyes still grew in proportion to the rest of the body.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Grenn on February 10, 2007, 02:57:26 AM
This post has less to do with today's comic then... well.... .anything. :)

I had to say this though.....

Nice Star Trek Generations quote from Data in the title bar on the page today.  :ipod
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Valynth on February 10, 2007, 03:18:16 AM
Quote from: dragongw on February 10, 2007, 02:49:04 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on February 10, 2007, 02:23:06 AM
I thought that was the logical thing... What I keep being told is that the eyes are the only part of the body that don't grow sideways, only from front-back.
I'm more of a Chemistry guy.  I only took a year of Bio, and I thought that the eyes still grew in proportion to the rest of the body.

Nope, as previously stated, they only grow forwards and backwards.  Thats why while you may not need glasses as a child, you might eventually need them as a teen/adult.  If they expanded in the other dimensions equally, they would never need corrective lens-es, because the primary cause of blurred vision(the angles of light hitting the back of the eye changing) would never happen.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Aridas on February 10, 2007, 03:22:44 AM
Well, that's if it doesn't grow right, I think. I thought it did something to make up for all that as it grew, didn't it?
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Valynth on February 10, 2007, 03:33:52 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on February 10, 2007, 03:22:44 AM
Well, that's if it doesn't grow right, I think. I thought it did something to make up for all that as it grew, didn't it?

Ussually the lens in your eye will adjust to compensate, but in many cases, the lens gets damaged, or simply can't adjust to match the eye's design, Aka, it's flawed.  Depending on how the lens is flawed compared to the way your eye grows is the reason my friends, glasses exist.  And why you should see and eye specialist every year or so if you can't see properly.

The growth of the eye is ussually the primary factor that causes natural blurred vision, because the lens doesn't really do anything, which is itself a problem, but one that would be solved(or at least rendered moot) if the eye grew equally in all directions.  Unfortunately, that would be a difficult task since the lense itself will have to be enlarged, which would drain nutrients like no-body's buisiness.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Tapewolf on February 10, 2007, 04:32:27 AM
Quote from: Valynth on February 10, 2007, 12:20:43 AM
Side theory:  Maybe Abel's father saved a cubi, but the effort ended up killing him and his dieing wish was for the cubi to protect his wife so the cubi covertly replaces him as the husband as a means of fulfilling the wish.

Oh, I like it.
As for the shadow, it's definitely Abel.  Look at the shoulders - those are the sort of sleeve-things he wears instead of a shirt.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Dard on February 10, 2007, 05:07:43 AM
A necklace for a tentacle head as engagement ring?
I think that is a very cute idea!  :hug
Looks like the tentacle head really doesn't mind the additional weight.  :giggle
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Arcalane on February 10, 2007, 05:09:18 AM
Quote from: Valynth on February 10, 2007, 12:04:42 AMWhen did we find out about that?  As far as I know it seems either one could be it.

I'm fairly sure it's established in either the main arc or Abel's Story. Also, it's worth pointing out that when Abel is apparently in his mid 20's, May hasn't changed a bit and Cid's got... beardy.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Tapewolf on February 10, 2007, 05:17:13 AM
Quote from: Sheridan on February 10, 2007, 05:09:18 AM
Quote from: Valynth on February 10, 2007, 12:04:42 AMWhen did we find out about that?  As far as I know it seems either one could be it.

I'm fairly sure it's established in either the main arc or Abel's Story. Also, it's worth pointing out that when Abel is apparently in his mid 20's, May hasn't changed a bit and Cid's got... beardy.

If you can point to anything conclusive, I'd like to see it.  Given Amber's statements on 'cubi-being inheritance, the most likely theories at the moment are that Cid is the 'cubi or that Abel is a cuckoo.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Tycoon on February 10, 2007, 05:44:01 AM
Gaaaaaahhh!!!!!! Too much cute in panel 2! Ehg...

*Collapses on the floor*


Two days in a row of overly cute comics take a toll on one's sanity.
Title: Re: 09/09/09 - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Ted Schiller on February 10, 2007, 08:18:50 AM
Quote from: BillBuckner on February 09, 2007, 09:59:33 PM
Quote from: Alondro on February 09, 2007, 09:59:10 PM
Hmm, is this for the 10th?  I know it's still the 9th, but it's the comic for tomorrow. 

*Charline grins*  And now for the killing off of more family and friends.  Delightful!   >:3
It's my bloody birthday, I get to set the date to it.  >:3

So you won't be born until September 9, 2009?    :mowdizzy  ???

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: DeedaeicMess on February 10, 2007, 08:56:17 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 10, 2007, 05:17:13 AM
Quote from: Sheridan on February 10, 2007, 05:09:18 AM
Quote from: Valynth on February 10, 2007, 12:04:42 AMWhen did we find out about that?  As far as I know it seems either one could be it.

I'm fairly sure it's established in either the main arc or Abel's Story. Also, it's worth pointing out that when Abel is apparently in his mid 20's, May hasn't changed a bit and Cid's got... beardy.

If you can point to anything conclusive, I'd like to see it.  Given Amber's statements on 'cubi-being inheritance, the most likely theories at the moment are that Cid is the 'cubi or that Abel is a cuckoo.

I don't know a whole lot about Cubi in Furrae myself. Mind explaining this one for me?
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: superluser on February 10, 2007, 09:27:12 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 10, 2007, 05:17:13 AMthe most likely theories at the moment are that Cid is the 'cubi or that Abel is a cuckoo.

I'm with DeedaeicMess on this one.  As I understand the term cuckoo, it would imply that May isn't Abel's mother, which is one thing that we're pretty sure of.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Stygian on February 10, 2007, 09:28:45 AM
Come on... Take a look at May in the first appearance panel. Does she look like an old mother to you? She has changed in color, and that's all. But how much do you think wrinkles show through fur?

When I was younger, some people used to mistake my mother for my sister on occasions. There is nothing that's unusual or incredible about May's appearance.

And that Abel would bear that kind of resemblance while being a cuckoo is just ridiculous.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: superluser on February 10, 2007, 09:33:04 AM
Quote from: Stygian on February 10, 2007, 09:28:45 AMAnd that Abel would bear that kind of resemblance while being a cuckoo is just ridiculous.

Well, that and the prospect of switching eggs in utero is pretty difficult.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Tapewolf on February 10, 2007, 10:32:11 AM
Quote from: superluser on February 10, 2007, 09:27:12 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 10, 2007, 05:17:13 AMthe most likely theories at the moment are that Cid is the 'cubi or that Abel is a cuckoo.

I'm with DeedaeicMess on this one.  As I understand the term cuckoo, it would imply that May isn't Abel's mother, which is one thing that we're pretty sure of.

Apparently none of you people have read John Wyndham or seen Village of the Damned?
By 'cuckoo' I am referring shorthand to the theory that whoever conceived Abel was not Cid. 

Double-checking I note that the children in The Midwich Cuckoos didn't actually resemble their parent, but there you go.
If you can come up with a better name for it, I'm all ears.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: DavidRokon on February 10, 2007, 11:23:28 AM
You know, considering cubi don't need to eat, if they have a decent source to feed from...

(http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5840/abel29up8.jpg)
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: The LizardKing on February 10, 2007, 11:29:58 AM
I see Hennya is planning on getting her wedding dress (look on the table in front of her in panel 3)
ANd secondly, I think that those windows on the house door are Smashed. They have jagged edges and the glass is broken. Nobody's noticed that. Strange. But yeah, that's definitely abel's shadow at the door.

Happy news indeed. ;)
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Tapewolf on February 10, 2007, 11:39:08 AM
Quote from: DavidRokon on February 10, 2007, 11:23:28 AM
You know, considering cubi don't need to eat, if they have a decent source to feed from...

[May-doesn't-eat-much line]

Indeed, but according to Amber, when a 'cubi and Being interbreed, the child will resemble the Being parent (which to me suggests an adaptation to allow them to foist children upon unsuspecting foster parents, hence my use of the term 'cuckoo' to describe this).
Hence, May might be a succubus, but that ain't the way things are looking.  

The three most likely theories are:
1. Abel's father was an incubus pretending to be Cid that she would bear his child in a desperate attempt to prolong his line.  Val's "last dying wish" theory is a variant on this.
2. Cid is really an incubus in disguise (eye patch covers clan marking?)
3. Both of them are 'cubi (possibly having deceived each other for their entire married lives)

Bear in mind Abel's detestation of 'cubi who shapeshift to assume other people's lives.  The most likely cause for that would be (1).  2 or 3 might, but they are less likely since it would still be his parents who had raised him, even if they were pretending to be Beings.  (Abel doesn't mind hiding his wings)

The other point is that Abel goes into a long state of depression at SAIA.  He hasn't tried to contact his parents after he left, which suggests to me that they're Beings and therefore long-dead.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: MaskedRetriever on February 10, 2007, 12:19:07 PM
Quote from: superluser on February 10, 2007, 09:33:04 AMWell, that and the prospect of switching eggs in utero is pretty difficult.
*trying really really REALLY hard not to think of how it would be slightly easier for a Cubi than, say, someone without tentacles*
:B


I'm inclined to think that both Abel's parents know why he's a Cubi, but given the darker tone of Abel's Story in general it's actually really, really plausible that his coming home with wings comin' outta his head is going to unseat some presumption and create MASSIVE CUBI EMOBOMB that ends up with Sulkykitty Poutyface in SAIA gettin' mercilessly teased by that loveable PsychoPoodle of Cubi Mayhem, Fa'lina.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Stygian on February 10, 2007, 02:18:26 PM
Loveable? You're taking an inordinate amount of pleasure in that... Personally, I don't enjoy seeing that. It's a contributing factor to Abel ending up much more of a jerk later, I believe. So, it is simply negative influence.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: KarlOmega1 on February 10, 2007, 03:21:11 PM
When I went to the main website, I notice that it said "I just love scanning for lifeforms" at the top of my window...seems someone has seen the movie "Star Trek Generations"...
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: superluser on February 10, 2007, 03:21:44 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 10, 2007, 11:39:08 AMIndeed, but according to Amber, when a 'cubi and Being interbreed, the child will resemble the Being parent

I think we need another emoticon.

Not exactly my best work (OK, actually pretty bad work), but still:

(http://www.frontiernet.net/~superluser/hybrid.png)

As to the term cuckoo, the facts that

(A) a cuckoo parent doesn't interact with the foster parent, and
(B) the cuckoo typically looks nothing like the foster parents

were throwing me off.  I, however, can't come up with anything better that would be understood by the general population.  Olympides might be a pretty good term, but how many out there would get the reference?

Quote from: MaskedRetriever on February 10, 2007, 12:19:07 PMhis coming home with wings comin' outta his head

Not only is he not coming home with wings out of his head, but Abel is coming home with no wings *at all*.  What's going to happen when May sees him without wings?

For that matter, what's going to happen when Hennya sees the charm?  I wouldn't be surprised if she knows what it is.  Furthermore, what would happen if Hennya took the charm?  Would her ring fall off?

What will Cid and May say when they see Abel suddenly grow two sets of wings?

And finally, of course, what would happen if either Cid or May took the charm?
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Tapewolf on February 10, 2007, 03:41:52 PM
Quote from: superluser on February 10, 2007, 03:21:44 PM
As to the term cuckoo, the facts that
(A) a cuckoo parent doesn't interact with the foster parent, and
(B) the cuckoo typically looks nothing like the foster parents

Depends on the species.  I'm pretty sure that some of them will choose nests where the eggs resemble its own.
And the cuckoo-duck can lay its eggs in the nests of other ducks, and as I mentioned elsewhere that fact that 'cubi appearance will defer to Beings suggests that they have evolved/been designed to do this.
(The cuckoo-duck lays its own eggs as well... the other eggs are off-site backups)

QuoteOlympides might be a pretty good term, but how many out there would get the reference?
Heh, I don't, but then my classics are sorely lacking.

QuoteAnd finally, of course, what would happen if either Cid or May took the charm?
Depends what they are.  We don't even know that with any certainty, let alone the other questions.  But it's going to be dead interesting to find out.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Madd the Sane on February 10, 2007, 03:52:07 PM
Quote from: The LizardKing on February 10, 2007, 11:29:58 AM
ANd secondly, I think that those windows on the house door are Smashed. They have jagged edges and the glass is broken. Nobody's noticed that.
I thought it was decorated glass I.E. glass split up in octagons.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Nino on February 10, 2007, 03:57:34 PM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on February 10, 2007, 03:52:07 PM
Quote from: The LizardKing on February 10, 2007, 11:29:58 AM
ANd secondly, I think that those windows on the house door are Smashed. They have jagged edges and the glass is broken. Nobody's noticed that.
I thought it was decorated glass I.E. glass split up in octagons.

Definitely. They're cut way too perfectly. If it were broken it'd have a big crack in the middle.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Talonr on February 10, 2007, 03:59:09 PM
I just keep thinking about the fact that Hennya mentioned making Abel her "honour Maiden".

Then I thought to myself "I'm no big expert on weddings, but don't the Brides generally invite the Maidens and the Grooms invite the Best Man/Ushers/whatevers they're called"?  So, if Hennya wanted to invite a male friend, would he then still have to be referred to as a 'maiden' because he's there to reprisent/by request of the bride?
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Sunblink on February 10, 2007, 04:08:40 PM
Awww, Hennya is all sorts of cute in the second panel. I haven't seen much of her, but I really like her already. Cute gal, nice design too. Never thought that she would become one of the more notable characters from her first appearance.

Knowing the current pattern in Abel's Story, though, things probably aren't going to turn out well for her, in one way or another. A girl-jackal can hope, though.

I'm having a rough time discerning the silhouette reflected on the surface of the door, though. It LOOKS like Abel because of the shape of the ears, but there's a more rigid shape leaning against his shoulder, as well as a wrinkly shadow on his arm that I would've thought was the base of his belle sleeve, but it's a bit more prominent. For all I know, it could be a total stranger, who coincidentally happens to have Abel's sleeve, and the squarish shape could just be a trick of the light or whatever.

Not to mention there's some difference with the style of the character's hair, and judging by the shape of his/her head, it almost looks like he/she is wearing some kind of hat. I doubt Abel would've gone through the trouble of getting a hat to conceal his head-wings, as I doubt he really knows the true purpose of the medallion, and that he was in such a rush.

I also get the feeling he isn't even sure about the presence of his head-wings to begin with--he never actually SAW them, Devin just yanked him around by them. For all Abel knew, he could've thought Devin just had him by the hair or something.

Ah, huzzah for lengthy posts.

As for the 'honor maiden' thing, well, Abel already is somewhat androgynous, so he would make an alright honor maiden... :p Give him a shirt and no one would be the wiser.

~Keaton the Black Jackal
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Tiger_T on February 10, 2007, 04:12:32 PM
I'm less concerned about the second wings.
But what will happen if they see him -Without- any wings.

I know I would worry if I saw my friend/kid running around with a limb missing.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Goatmon on February 10, 2007, 04:14:46 PM
To the OP: Try making the subject more clear.  I thought the new Abel's story comic came out on the 10th and had no idea there was a thread about it already since the subject for this one has nothing to do with the comic. >_<

Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: superluser on February 10, 2007, 05:03:20 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on February 10, 2007, 04:08:40 PMI also get the feeling he isn't even sure about the presence of his head-wings to begin with--he never actually SAW them, Devin just yanked him around by them. For all Abel knew, he could've thought Devin just had him by the hair or something.

That's my impression, as well.  Furthermore, if Abel went to buy a proper hat, he'd surely have looked in a mirror.  Nothing stranger than having a hat hovering inexplicably two inches above your head.  If that's a bandanna, it might be possible.

It might be possible that the charm hides the wings, but not their shadows (though that tends to be one of those annoying things that DMs force on you to balance your skills).

I also just noticed--Hennya doesn't have any opposable digits!
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Zedd on February 10, 2007, 05:29:50 PM
Quote from: superluser on February 10, 2007, 05:03:20 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on February 10, 2007, 04:08:40 PMI also get the feeling he isn't even sure about the presence of his head-wings to begin with--he never actually SAW them, Devin just yanked him around by them. For all Abel knew, he could've thought Devin just had him by the hair or something.

That's my impression, as well.  Furthermore, if Abel went to buy a proper hat, he'd surely have looked in a mirror.  Nothing stranger than having a hat hovering inexplicably two inches above your head.  If that's a bandanna, it might be possible.

It might be possible that the charm hides the wings, but not their shadows (though that tends to be one of those annoying things that DMs force on you to balance your skills).

I also just noticed--Hennya doesn't have any opposable digits!

Get that must be scary having no thumbs..Guess no thumbsucking when yous a baby
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: bill on February 10, 2007, 05:30:23 PM
Guess that your handwriting would kinda suffer as well.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Jim Halisstrad on February 10, 2007, 05:34:14 PM
Quote from: superluser on February 10, 2007, 05:03:20 PM
I also just noticed--Hennya doesn't have any opposable digits!


:U  It will be a short Marriage.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Kenji on February 10, 2007, 05:36:45 PM
Going without a thumb isn't so hard. I used to tuck my thumb in and do every day things just because.

Besides, she's used to not having them, so she has her adaptations. And she also has a tail. It could be at least somewhat prehensile.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: superluser on February 10, 2007, 06:43:10 PM
Quote from: Kenji on February 10, 2007, 05:36:45 PMGoing without a thumb isn't so hard. I used to tuck my thumb in and do every day things just because.

Besides, she's used to not having them, so she has her adaptations. And she also has a tail. It could be at least somewhat prehensile.

Well, that's not always a help.  Try using scissors with fingers from sundry hands.  Or try opening a doorknob without a thumb.  Or brushing your teeth.  Or buttoning a button (I think.  I button things one handed, so I need an opposable thumb).

Also, she wouldn't be able to flip people off.  Either that or she's already flipped us all of in this most recent strip.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Kenji on February 10, 2007, 07:02:30 PM
Quote from: superluser on February 10, 2007, 06:43:10 PM
Quote from: Kenji on February 10, 2007, 05:36:45 PMGoing without a thumb isn't so hard. I used to tuck my thumb in and do every day things just because.

Besides, she's used to not having them, so she has her adaptations. And she also has a tail. It could be at least somewhat prehensile.

Well, that's not always a help.  Try using scissors with fingers from sundry hands.  Or try opening a doorknob without a thumb.  Or brushing your teeth.  Or buttoning a button (I think.  I button things one handed, so I need an opposable thumb).

Also, she wouldn't be able to flip people off.  Either that or she's already flipped us all of in this most recent strip.

Tried it, tried it, don't wear buttons. :P

But yeah.. flipping people off. That would be rather hard. And that's a necessity. D:
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Yugo on February 10, 2007, 07:28:33 PM
Yeah, those things would be rather difficult. But only if you were born with an opposable digit and lost it. She's already adapted to lacking a thumb, I'm sure. It is however unfortunate that she can't display the universal sign of dislike.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: superluser on February 10, 2007, 08:05:07 PM
Quote from: Action Jesus on February 10, 2007, 07:28:33 PMYeah, those things would be rather difficult. But only if you were born with an opposable digit and lost it. She's already adapted to lacking a thumb, I'm sure. It is however unfortunate that she can't display the universal sign of dislike.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that that's only universal in some western-developed nations.

It's pretty easy to adapt to some of that stuff, regardless of whether it's congenital.  Some of those things, however, are never going to get any better.  How many of you have actually tried turning a doorknob with no opposable digits?  Or using a knife?

I mean, I don't want to turn this into a lecture on PWD, but it's rather surprising that she's able to get by in the world without them.
Title: Re: 09/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on February 10, 2007, 09:26:38 PM
but who knows what evil lurks in the hear of Cid,  he's already named after a famous spanish knight of mythical lore in our reality.


El Cid (http://www.awerty.com/elcid2.html)


Quote"But when this vengeful count returned home to Leon, he convinced King Alfonso that El Cid had become dangerously powerful and must be banished from the kingdom."
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Boog on February 10, 2007, 10:01:14 PM
Well, the whole thumbless thing isn't so hard to get around; just design tools that are geared toward less dexterious hands. Same for hand guestures and the like. Aside from that, enough finger strength could quite possibly overcome the need for thumbs when turning doornobs or holding things. You just wrap your fingers around the object not unlike a tenticle or something.

Sci-fi geek overanalysis. If only I could figure out a practical use for it.
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Slipdance on February 11, 2007, 01:05:48 AM
I know I'm wrong and horrible for thinking this...but the idea popped into my mind shortly after reading this latest comic, and just wouldn't leave. I needed catharsis, and thus I am going to subject you to THIS! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/slipdance/BaconCookie.jpg)

(I can't remember the rules for posting images, so I went with the safer bet. <<; )
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Valynth on February 11, 2007, 02:29:07 AM
Quote from: Boogeyman on February 10, 2007, 10:01:14 PM
Well, the whole thumbless thing isn't so hard to get around; just design tools that are geared toward less dexterious hands. Same for hand guestures and the like. Aside from that, enough finger strength could quite possibly overcome the need for thumbs when turning doornobs or holding things. You just wrap your fingers around the object not unlike a tenticle or something.

Sci-fi geek overanalysis. If only I could figure out a practical use for it.

Do you know how many things wouldn't work with that method?  Door-knobs for one (building the strength to use one would not be as rewarding as developing something else that achieves the same principle, in short they'll never have existed).  Anything with a smooth surface for two, since gripping in such a manner relies primarily on the fact that the object you're holding will have enough friction against your skin to withstand the enertia of the object as you move it (the thumb crossing the palm shows that it's meant to lock object there with something that you can actually controll alot better than the laws of physics).  Which means said species would not be able to manipulate metal or plastic to any great degree, and there goes about 95% of our current in-use tools.

In a place with magic however, anything goes.
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Tapewolf on February 11, 2007, 05:59:51 AM
Quote from: Slipdance on February 11, 2007, 01:05:48 AM
I know I'm wrong and horrible for thinking this...but the idea popped into my mind shortly after reading this latest comic, and just wouldn't leave. I needed catharsis, and thus I am going to subject you to THIS! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/slipdance/BaconCookie.jpg)

(I can't remember the rules for posting images, so I went with the safer bet. <<; )

Just do it.  Amber doesn't mind edits being posted, and the sizing rules are enforced by the sytem.  For reference, the maximum dimensions are 500x500 so it's going to be rescaled slightly.

I wish I'd thought of it.  (Though I've always seen Warp-Acis as being more like GIR myself)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/slipdance/BaconCookie.jpg)
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Zedd on February 11, 2007, 06:35:08 AM
Arugh scary May look!! *flails and combusts*
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: superluser on February 11, 2007, 08:58:18 AM
Quote from: Slipdance on February 11, 2007, 01:05:48 AM(I can't remember the rules for posting images, so I went with the safer bet. <<; )

You might want to add Amber's copyright notice (perhaps expanding it to ``original art by'' and ``photoshopped by'') and web site to it.  That way, if someone takes the graphic, anyone who sees it will know who made the stuff and where to go if they want more.

I still think that May's more likely to find a gold eyebrow ring in the cookies...
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Slipdance on February 11, 2007, 09:00:09 AM
Good point.  I thought to put it in the photobucket site, but not on the item itself.  Rargh on me. XP 

EDIT: Updated with hopefully subtle credits. 

(And on the first time around, I did actually put Amber's maiden name, and I had to redo it.  :B Am I allowed one foul due to being out of the loop for so long? )
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Boog on February 11, 2007, 11:36:45 AM
Quote from: Valynth on February 11, 2007, 02:29:07 AM
Do you know how many things wouldn't work with that method?  Door-knobs for one (building the strength to use one would not be as rewarding as developing something else that achieves the same principle, in short they'll never have existed).  Anything with a smooth surface for two, since gripping in such a manner relies primarily on the fact that the object you're holding will have enough friction against your skin to withstand the enertia of the object as you move it (the thumb crossing the palm shows that it's meant to lock object there with something that you can actually controll alot better than the laws of physics).  Which means said species would not be able to manipulate metal or plastic to any great degree, and there goes about 95% of our current in-use tools.

In a place with magic however, anything goes.
Doornobs replaced with handles. There's one right there.
As for manipulation of plastic and metal, why do you think beings are the ones leading in technology? Creatures either can't use it, don't need it, or don't want to need it.
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: thegayhare on February 11, 2007, 11:40:21 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 11, 2007, 05:59:51 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/slipdance/BaconCookie.jpg)

Squeee

now thats funny
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: superluser on February 11, 2007, 12:37:37 PM
Quote from: Slipdance on February 11, 2007, 09:00:09 AMEDIT: Updated with hopefully subtle credits. 

(And on the first time around, I did actually put Amber's maiden name, and I had to redo it.  :B Am I allowed one foul due to being out of the loop for so long? )

Actually, what I usually do is something along the lines of the following:

(http://www.frontiernet.net/~superluser/llamaCookie.jpg)

Just copy the bar from the strip in question (expanding/altering as needed).  Yeah, anyone could take it off, but it's still there.

...and you wouldn't be the first one to forget Amber's married name.

P.S. TGH, your new avatart is terrific.
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Angel on February 11, 2007, 02:29:22 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 11, 2007, 05:59:51 AM


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/slipdance/BaconCookie.jpg)

XDDDDDDDDD YAY, ZIM REFERENCES! WHOO! That is so great...
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Alondro on February 11, 2007, 05:24:54 PM
I suspect that what will actually happen is this:

Abel will come in and take off the skull thingee as his mother greets him, the head wings will appear and May, believing an incubus has come to attack, will try to kill him.  Hennya, knowing it is in fact Abel, will try to stop May, but will end up stabbing her through the heart with a head tentacle releasing an anime-esque blood tsunami in the process.

Abel, already on the verge of a complete mental breakdown, is driven mad by the fountain of blood and the voice of his mother crying out in voice and in his mind, the voice of her soul thinking of the apparent betrayal and the "Two" creatures that have attacked her, and thus instinctively he strikes out with his new wing tentacles  (which should be functional by now!) and kills Hennya.

After a few moments, he comes to his senses and breaks down anew realizing that two more loved ones are dead... and that the monster he's become is responsible! 

*Charline grins*  And that's when I find him!   >:3

*Charles eeps*  No... that can't be right.  Abel wouldn't be in the comic later if that had happened.   :disbelief
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on February 11, 2007, 05:34:59 PM
um..it is Jyrras, from the long and winded future, to kill Abel, because Jyrras displaced his anger at himself for being gay, blames Abel for possibly being gay or at least Bisexual. when the only evidence we have that Abel is totally gay comes from speculation on his metrosexual like behavior.


Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: King Of Hearts on February 11, 2007, 10:21:38 PM
Looks like Abel to me.

An ...honor maiden...

...

...

...

I got nuthin.
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: O.M. on February 12, 2007, 12:42:43 AM
Just given the general direction Abel's day has gone, and the fact that it's specifically mentioned as supposedly being a pleasant surprise, I'm gonna call this one here and now:

Abel was most likely crushing on Hennya.

(Also, I think I posted this comment earlier, and got some weird "Your IP has posted less than 30 seconds ago" error. I don't SEE my post anywhere, so bear with me if I accidentally repeated this. :P)
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: ShiningShadow on February 12, 2007, 12:51:50 PM
No as I recalled Abel is the Bridehonor maid or something like that. I hope he is in better spirits. I think he needs to talk to his mom.
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Tapewolf on February 12, 2007, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: ShiningShadow on February 12, 2007, 12:51:50 PM
I hope he is in better spirits. I think he needs to talk to his mom.

If it were me I'd probably be running through the door wild-eyed and screaming something like "They killed Devin...! killed Xander...! tried to kill me...!"
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: superluser on February 12, 2007, 01:45:43 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 12, 2007, 01:16:58 PMIf it were me I'd probably be running through the door wild-eyed and screaming something like "They killed Devin...! killed Xander...! tried to kill me...!"

Given the way that he's approaching the door, I expect him to walk slowly through the house, ignoring everything that people try to say to him, staring straight forward.
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Tapewolf on February 12, 2007, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: superluser on February 12, 2007, 01:45:43 PM
Given the way that he's approaching the door, I expect him to walk slowly through the house, ignoring everything that people try to say to him, staring straight forward.

...assuming that is him - I'm no longer sure.  The sleeves are right but the top of the head is strange, and the hair doesn't look quite right either.  It might be Cid, although why he'd be dressed in Abel-sleeves is beyond me.

If that is him, then yes - the poise is slow.  I was thinking more of where we last saw him in #69 where he's running.
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: superluser on February 12, 2007, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 12, 2007, 04:11:09 PM...assuming that is him - I'm no longer sure.  The sleeves are right but the top of the head is strange, and the hair doesn't look quite right either.

Yeah.  I know what you're saying.  It just seems that they're talking about Abel, and then we see a silhouette of someone who looks like Abel, so the implication is very strong that it's something to do with Abel directly. (and not, for example, Ahnora about the wedding or Cid returning from an adventure)

Quote from: Tapewolf on February 12, 2007, 04:11:09 PMIf that is him, then yes - the poise is slow.  I was thinking more of where we last saw him in #69 where he's running.

I don't think that even a fully-grown incubus could run all the way from Cantiv (or at least the wilderness on the border) to Zinvth without stopping.  Halfway through, Abel would have had to push his feelings down to compel himself to keep going.

On the other hand, it's a still image, and there are no cues as to how fast this shadow is moving.  (except, of course, that you don't use establishing shots for fast-paced action)
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Tapewolf on February 12, 2007, 06:59:16 PM
Quote from: superluser on February 12, 2007, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 12, 2007, 04:11:09 PM...assuming that is him - I'm no longer sure.  The sleeves are right but the top of the head is strange, and the hair doesn't look quite right either.
Yeah.  I know what you're saying.  It just seems that they're talking about Abel, and then we see a silhouette of someone who looks like Abel, so the implication is very strong that it's something to do with Abel directly.

I think I've got it - it is Abel.  I don't know why the left side of his head is so flat, but the right side where it splits down the middle, I think that's the tuft of hair above his face.

I'm not sure the little tabs on either side are, though - it might be that he has snagged a hat from somewhere, possibly in case the headwings came back.

I remember a scene from the miniseries Mr. Pye where the protagonist removes his hat and then slowly raises a match to reveal to his wife that he has grown a pair of demon horns - perhaps Amber is thinking the same kind of thing...
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: FlameSword on February 12, 2007, 08:43:46 PM
it's denfinetley abel because he had a long hard day so his hair is messed up.
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Boog on February 12, 2007, 08:59:03 PM
Weird thought that just occured to me about the honor maiden bit; we don't know much about the marraige traditions of this breed of mythos. However, it's by now pretty much accepted fact that Abel likes the saner sex. Mebbe the role of honor maiden is merely defined as such by their interactions with the honorfellow? As stated, just a weird idea, but as good an explination as any.
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: Aridas on February 12, 2007, 11:40:20 PM
I don't know why people think there's motion, though... It looks to me like whoever's out there was stopping at the door, waiting for something.
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: superluser on February 13, 2007, 12:19:59 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on February 12, 2007, 11:40:20 PMI don't know why people think there's motion, though... It looks to me like whoever's out there was stopping at the door, waiting for something.

Who are these people?  I'm the only one who addressed the concept of motion, and I suggested that there were no cues either way.

And then I said that it was highly unlikely that the shadow was running.

Waiting, though, seems unlikely.  The shot is from the POV of the shadow, who is looking at the door, and that suggests that the character is not waiting, or else we'd probably see the reverse shot.  If I wanted to suggest waiting, I'd probably frame it as light streaming out of the window above with a jet black silhouette around the corner set off by the dark blue sky.
Title: Re: 02/09/09, give or take a day or so - Ruh Roh! *tritone chord*
Post by: ShiningShadow on February 13, 2007, 07:15:41 AM
I think the shot is implied that Abel is walking towards the door. At that point we will wait and se what happens next. Sort of like those Black and White TV serials and the actioned interupted like the tune *Tune In next Week Yada, Yada, Yada*. I think Abel will talk to his mom and tell her about the incident at that post.