So what did Kria know, and when did she know it?
She seems not to care that Abel's got headwings, so that would seem to mean that she's fully aware that he's an incubus, and Kria would be just about the only character that could pull off that sort of firepower...
I declare that this strip has made me happy.
Edit: This seems to be up rather early...
You didn't. You did not just kill everyone and just sidle up to Abel like nothing has happened yet.
If you did Kria, you're reaching Drip level of infamy in my mind.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 12, 2007, 07:52:38 PMYou didn't. You did not just kill everyone and just sidle up to Abel like nothing has happened yet.
If you did Kria, you're reaching Drip level of infamy in my mind.
And showing no more remorse than offering to pay a check for eating someone doesn't?
Remember that the bad guys are adventurers in Kria's mind.
I don't think she was the one doing the killing. Those that were recognize her as a friend (or fellow demon), and thus aren't firing at her (less they face her demonic wrath). Now, she might have something to do with what's going on, but I don't think she's acting alone.
I would want to go home too...
That was random person, when you mess up the life of a character the audience has been following in one swift action is what brings it to Drip status.
Those who don't know, Drip is a character from the comic Jack, which is mature, and Drip makes a very malicious villain in it, who will **** both your body and your mind.
My, doesn't she look young?
Now just how in blazes has Kria changed from a kindergarten teacher into the psycho who's just killed/helped kill both Abel's companions? And what's Abel going to do when he realises it was her wot done it? (No, Modelincard, Kria is not just going to take a peaceful stroll through a warzone... she's involved in this)
Is he going to go all "No! We've got to take Devin and Xander with us!" on her? (That would be kind of sweet, but how Kria would take it I don't know...)
..and Abel is going to go totally apesh__ when he finds Kria in Lost Lake. It'll be like Pyroduck all over again. Curious that he didn't see her in Jy-jy's mind though.
Meheehehe... hahaa... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*Oh yes, it's that good. Finally something for plotting, and to take my mind of Dan's idiocy...*
I have to wonder what she's been doing in the middle of this battlefield. Because either she waltzed in there after everything was over (technically to make thist the most possible, EVERYONE would have to have died except for abel), or she was the one on the roof. Which would suck for Abel if he ever found out.
Now now, I'm sure she just happened to be passing through, and both has nothing to do with the recent fighting and somehow is completely oblivious to it and its aftermath. As the saying goes, "It's not what it looks like!" /sarcasm :mowtongue
Eh, Abel wasn't IN Jyrras' mind long or he would've found out about WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE in all likelyhood.
Iiiiiii think Kria splatched Devin and Xander. Which, y'know, BUH.
Even if she didn't, I'll bet she knows what's going on, and given how very very little Kria respects the right beings have to not get eaten and splatched, I kind of doubt Abel's gonna get any more sympathy than "yeah, befriending beings can result in getting bummed out when someone eats 'em. Tough break there."
Remember, when figuring out how Kria would react, think Nietzche.
And even if she did splatch Devin and Xander, she's still HOT.
-_-
It should be obvious whether she was one of the creatures attacking the adventurers. She'd still have her PvP flag on.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 12, 2007, 08:02:06 PMMy, doesn't she look young?
Now just how in blazes has Kria changed from a kindergarten teacher into the psycho who's just killed/helped kill both Abel's companions?
Strangely young. Battling adventurers must do wonders for the skin, since she dropped at least five years since we last saw her.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 12, 2007, 08:02:06 PMAnd what's Abel going to do when he realises it was her wot done it? (No, Modelincard, Kria is not just going to take a peaceful stroll through a warzone... she's involved in this)
For once, plot convenience and realism coincide.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 12, 2007, 08:02:06 PMIs he going to go all "No! We've got to take Devin and Xander with us!" on her? (That would be kind of sweet, but how Kria would take it I don't know...)
I don't think even he'd try that. Hemophobia, you know. Unless someone has a convenient burlap sack, my prediction is that he'll pass out if he tries to stand.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 12, 2007, 08:02:06 PM..and Abel is going to go totally apesh__ when he finds Kria in Lost Lake. It'll be like Pyroduck all over again. Curious that he didn't see her in Jy-jy's mind though.
Two possibilities:
(1) Abel has continued on at the demon schools in Zinvth
(2) Abel took the first ticket outta Zinvth, and it just happened to have SAIA written on it.
If the former (and we'll know by next Saturday, I'll bet), then I'm sure he's made his peace with Kria, and the only shock would be meeting an old friend. If the latter, then the final solution to the dragons will coincide with another pitched battle.
In either case, I'd bet a Coke that after Abel talks to Jyrras about his crush, he'll meet Lorenda, who will happen to mention her last name, and entertaining things will follow.
Quote from: MaskedRetriever on January 12, 2007, 08:09:19 PMRemember, when figuring out how Kria would react, think Nietzche.
I don't think it even goes that far. I think she just thinks, ``Mmm! Meat!''
Oh, and Firefox has `Nietzsche' in spell check. Awesome.
A message was sent to notify people about what Devin and them found. PErhaps Kria had responded to the message? Remember, this is back in the past; Kria was nice enough to be a teacher and could still be very nice at this point in time. The main concern in ANY battle with innocents is to get them out of harms way. Going 'OMG! There are two dead guys near you!' when the attack could start up again would be bad. :)
Again, this is bad in time, perhaps Kria is still nice and therefor NOT one of the attackers. She may be staying calm to help calm Abel down.
Quote from: MaskedRetriever on January 12, 2007, 08:09:19 PM
Eh, Abel wasn't IN Jyrras' mind long or he would've found out about WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE in all likelyhood.
Uhhh...?
Abel's first action was to do a scan on Jyrras, that's before Jyrras even set eyes on him. From that he learned that Jyrras was one of Dan's allies. Shortly afterwards he discovers Jyrras is gay for Dan. Jyrras faints giving Abel a further possible opportunity to scan him, and when he awakes they talk and Abel discovers that he also has a crush on 'that cow girl'. Curiously he doesn't see who's daughter 'that cow girl' is, or more to he point that Kria has a crush on
Jyrras.
Jyrras doesn't decide he's gay for Abel until later, so Abel is not going to be able to pick up on that during the SAIA part of the arc.
QuoteEven if she didn't, I'll bet she knows what's going on, and given how very very little Kria respects the right beings have to not get eaten and splatched I kind of doubt Abel's gonna get any more sympathy than "yeah, befriending beings can result in getting bummed out when someone eats 'em. Tough break there."
That's an odd attitude for a kindergarten teacher when half or more of the class is going to be Beings. :S
QuoteAnd even if she did splatch Devin and Xander, she's still HOT.
True.
Quote from: Akisohida on January 12, 2007, 08:17:19 PMA message was sent to notify people about what Devin and them found. PErhaps Kria had responded to the message?
It's still rather soon for that to happen. Kria's in Zinvth, remember?
Quote from: superluser on January 12, 2007, 08:20:52 PM
Quote from: Akisohida on January 12, 2007, 08:17:19 PMA message was sent to notify people about what Devin and them found. PErhaps Kria had responded to the message?
It's still rather soon for that to happen. Kria's in Zinvth, remember?
She is a demon; She runs fast and does not tire easily..And who says she was in the city? And since that watch post is near the border, she could have easily been in the city and still got there.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 12, 2007, 08:20:37 PMThat's an odd attitude for a kindergarten teacher when half or more of the class is going to be Beings. :S
You know, there was a koala in that classroom, but everyone else was a Creature (and the koala might've been one, too). I think that pretty much all of the students are Creatures. Do note that it's usually not in your best interest to orphan your wards, as it tends to make paying tuition a little more difficult.
Also, *Missus* Soulstealer? How many times has she been married?
*puts on hula skirt and twists*
:-)
Most excellent, Amber. Indeed.
Quote from: superluser on January 12, 2007, 08:16:50 PM
Strangely young. Battling adventurers must do wonders for the skin, since she dropped at least five years since we last saw her.
It's the corset, obviously. :-)
Quote from: Akisohida on January 12, 2007, 08:24:14 PM
Quote from: superluser on January 12, 2007, 08:20:52 PM
Quote from: Akisohida on January 12, 2007, 08:17:19 PMA message was sent to notify people about what Devin and them found. PErhaps Kria had responded to the message?
It's still rather soon for that to happen. Kria's in Zinvth, remember?
She is a demon; She runs fast and does not tire easily..And who says she was in the city? And since that watch post is near the border, she could have easily been in the city and still got there.
You're giving demons too much credit. Maybe if she dropped to all fours...
And while sexy in appearance, the whole murder thing is kind of a buzzkill. Sorry babe, I don't swing that way.
Quote from: superluser on January 12, 2007, 08:31:00 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 12, 2007, 08:20:37 PMThat's an odd attitude for a kindergarten teacher when half or more of the class is going to be Beings. :S
You know, there was a koala in that classroom, but everyone else was a Creature (and the koala might've been one, too). I think that pretty much all of the students are Creatures.
There's only three other kids in-shot though.. not really enough to tell. Aren't modern-style cities supposed to be more of a Being thing? (The city itself protected by demons/angels in exchange for a tribute)
Also Beings are the most populous race in Furrae - Cid and May are allowed to roam the city without being eaten so Beings are obviously welcome/tolerated within it.
QuoteDo note that it's usually not in your best interest to orphan your wards, as it tends to make paying tuition a little more difficult.
Thing is, she's (apparently) been killing people
outside the city. Whether that's some official Zinvth policy or whether she's... uh...
Crazy 2AM idea - what if Kria is
teaching demons to hunt Beings?
My thoughts:
- She did slaughter everybody else.
- She just moved in to slaughter the last survivor, meaning Abel.
- Being a rampaging demoness is only one of her jobs. Being a kindergarden teacher is just another of her professions.
- It just wouldn't be right to maim and gut a former student. It wouldn't be proper. That's all that saved Abel.
- I don't think that it is that Abel is a creature that saved him. It's just that there were mostly creatures in the city where she worked before. I guess a she wouldn't kill a former Being-pupil either. But that's just speculation.
- Yes, she does look very young.
- "If anyone sees you, they'll probably kill you." Who 'they'. Either she had accomplices or she means any Beings that find him there in the middle of all that carnage. I guess the former.
- I wouldn't be surprised if Glory has already been dispatched.
- I don't want to speculate about a possible Abel-Kria relationship in current DMFA-time. I consider anything possible. The same goes if she knew that Abel was a cubi befoore or not.
QuoteThing is, she's (apparently) been killing people outside the city. Whether that's some official Zinvth policy or whether she's... uh...
Crazy 2AM idea - what if Kria is teaching demons to hunt Beings?
Paladins! They are Good Eats! :kruger
missUSS Soulstealer?! Did Kria have another marridge?
Quote from: Dard on January 12, 2007, 08:49:43 PM
My thoughts:
- She did slaughter everybody else.
- She just moved in to slaughter the last survivor, meaning Abel.
- Being a rampaging demoness is only one of her jobs. Being a kindergarden teacher is just another of her professions.
- It just wouldn't be right to maim and gut a former student. It wouldn't be proper. That's all that saved Abel.
- I don't think that it is that Abel is a creature that saved him. It's just that there were mostly creatures in the city where she worked before. I guess a she wouldn't kill a former Being-pupil either. But that's just speculation.
- Yes, she does look very young.
- "If anyone sees you, they'll probably kill you." Who 'they'. Either she had accomplices or she means any Beings that find him there in the middle of all that carnage. I guess the former.
- I wouldn't be surprised if Glory has already been dispatched.
- I don't want to speculate about a possible Abel-Kria relationship in current DMFA-time. I consider anything possible. The same goes if she knew that Abel was a cubi befoore or not.
See, I disagree. I think she thinks of things as a creature/being war and meant that beings would kill Abel, esp. since that's what Devin said would happen if he were there alone too. And we know Kria rampaged; I don't think that just means mildly terrifying beings.
And I am almost sure that Abel's status as a creature is what saved him. And since either May or Cid is a creature (most likely), other creatures may have known this (just knowing that a cubi must have a cubi parent and May must be the mother due to the resemblance) and respected the family. In fact, the members of Zinvth may have thought both parents were cubi.
Remember, (some) creatures do not think of the death of beings as tragic because of their short life spans, and they had been hunting her, thus is Kria's mind I'm sure she thought she had perfectly good reasons to kill them.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 12, 2007, 08:49:00 PMThere's only three other kids in-shot though.. not really enough to tell. Aren't modern-style cities supposed to be more of a Being thing? (The city itself protected by demons/angels in exchange for a tribute)
Also Beings are the most populous race in Furrae - Cid and May are allowed to roam the city without being eaten so Beings are obviously welcome/tolerated within it.
I've missed the part where Zinvth is protected by demons/angels for a tribute.
Anyways, it could be the Creature school. You presume that there are at least 50% Beings, but I see no evidence to support that.
As to Cid and May being able to roam the city, I've said before that they are paying for Abel's tuition, and Abel's tuition pays their salaries, so...
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 12, 2007, 08:49:00 PMCrazy 2AM idea - what if Kria is teaching demons to hunt Beings?
I like. I like.
(Well, actually, I don't like. I like the fact that you thought of it?)
@Kattuccino
And I think that Kria is just (almost) killing at random.
I think the only reason why she probably kills less Beings is that Creatures usually can defend themselves better.
I don't think she has anything against Beings except that she considers them weaklings. I mean, she married one once! And didn't kill him before he cheated her.
Of course this may have happend later, but I don't think so. After all, she is already a Mrs.
Quote from: MaskedRetriever on January 12, 2007, 08:09:19 PMAnd even if she did splatch Devin and Xander, she's still HOT.
Apparently, I'm the only one who thinks that Kria looks like she stepped out of an 80's glam-rock band. Either that or I'm the only one who thinks that that's a bad thing. I think she'd look smart in a suit with her hair down.
(You know, I heard an easy-listening remix of Private Eyes the other day. No, this was even more easy listening (http://www.amazon.com/Sound-Museum-Towa-Tei/dp/B000002HMU). Somebody really likes Rhodes Piano!)
Mm, yes, Kria might have made some move against Abel if she had any reason to. But hey, he's apparently a Cubi and in an agitated state, so maybe it's best to leave crying kitties lie.
It's very suspicious for Kria to be here. The only reason Abel went there was for the funeral; if the outpost was close enough to the city that somebody could run from the city, through a scene change to a forested area, it's doubtful the monster would have lasted long enough anyways, or that the outpost would have been destroyed in the first place (somebody from the city would've seen flames coming off the horizon). I can't think of any good reason for a school teacher to be there... but then, Kria's pretty much evil. I hate the idea... but I think she's at least in on the attack (it could be like somebody earlier said; she was teaching other creatures how to attack beings). :/
As for Glory... I doubt he'd even make Kria break a sweat. He's probably out of it by now.
Quote from: Dard on January 12, 2007, 08:49:43 PM- "If anyone sees you, they'll probably kill you." Who 'they'. Either she had accomplices or she means any Beings that find him there in the middle of all that carnage. I guess the former.
I'm actually starting to warm to the idea that she's not referring to adventurers but rather Creatures, specifically because I think that Kria's personally mortified about coming that close to killing a student.
Quote from: Alablast on January 12, 2007, 11:18:45 PMAs for Glory... I doubt he'd even make Kria break a sweat. He's probably out of it by now.
Rhetorical question.
there's one thing I must say... in all I doubt that Kira is someone that would work with others in one of her rampages. Not to mention that there were whole bodies laying around and knowing her there would only be peaces.
with that evidence I'm guessing that Kira stumbled upon that battle, saw Abel and decided to offer him her assistance.
It's Kria not Kira. Demons do have the habit of going solo, since they like to destroy as much as they can and others are just frag stealers.
Quote from: Madmann135 on January 12, 2007, 11:51:49 PMthere's one thing I must say... in all I doubt that Kira is someone that would work with others in one of her rampages. Not to mention that there were whole bodies laying around and knowing her there would only be peaces.
with that evidence I'm guessing that Kira stumbled upon that battle, saw Abel and decided to offer him her assistance.
Naww. Kria has gone on rampages with others in the past (well, future (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_229.php)), it would be in her idiom to take young Creatures out to help them learn to hunt, and we don't know if there really were multiple creatures. I wouldn't put it past Kria to survive an Ice-9.
Well that's her daughter, there is at least that connection. Other demons don't hold such values normally.
I'm officially throwing crazy theory #1 in and betting that Kria is actually a Cubi in disguise. Come on, appearing as one of his favorite teachers is almost TOO coincidental, even if she's a demon.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 13, 2007, 12:12:15 AMWell that's her daughter, there is at least that connection. Other demons don't hold such values normally.
Has anyone ever said that Lorenda's her only child?
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on January 13, 2007, 12:19:11 AMI'm officially throwing crazy theory #1 in and betting that Kria is actually a Cubi in disguise. Come on, appearing as one of his favorite teachers is almost TOO coincidental, even if she's a demon.
Gyaah! Brain...hurts!
On its face, it's not that bad of a theory, but if you take it to its logical conclusion, it gets very bad. Why would the creature be there in the first place? The creature would have to not have it in for Abel, but not want to expose itself as one of the `cubi. Why? It would then obviously want something with Abel. For that to work, it would have to have engineered Cindy's death. It doesn't make sense.
Quote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 12:31:04 AMQuote from: Jigsaw Forte on January 13, 2007, 12:19:11 AMI'm officially throwing crazy theory #1 in and betting that Kria is actually a Cubi in disguise. Come on, appearing as one of his favorite teachers is almost TOO coincidental, even if she's a demon.
Gyaah! Brain...hurts!
On its face, it's not that bad of a theory, but if you take it to its logical conclusion, it gets very bad. Why would the creature be there in the first place? The creature would have to not have it in for Abel, but not want to expose itself as one of the `cubi. Why? It would then obviously want something with Abel. For that to work, it would have to have engineered Cindy's death. It doesn't make sense.
No engineering involved.
Think about it... Random Cubi rips up the landscape, isn't interested in feeding, at least on flesh - maybe the mere feeding on beings' last emotions is enough? Random Cubi is able to notice very young, very FREAKED out Cubi... and quickly shifts form to something little Cubi will recognize as 'friendly' and get the fuck away. Young Cubi takes care of hisself, and Random Cubi makes sure he doesn't give the freaked one the wrong impression ('cause let's face it, if Abel saw another headwinged fellow like him running around NOW...).
No devious plot, just 'oh shit, get the little one out of here NOW!' logic.
Quote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 12:31:04 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on January 13, 2007, 12:12:15 AMWell that's her daughter, there is at least that connection. Other demons don't hold such values normally.
Has anyone ever said that Lorenda's her only child?
::Gives shave with Occam's Razor::
Quote from: Manawolf on January 13, 2007, 12:48:33 AM
Quote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 12:31:04 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on January 13, 2007, 12:12:15 AMWell that's her daughter, there is at least that connection. Other demons don't hold such values normally.
Has anyone ever said that Lorenda's her only child?
::Gives shave with Occam's Razor::
Like Occam's Razor even APPLIES to Mab's plots... see: current comic arc.
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on January 13, 2007, 12:39:11 AMThink about it... Random Cubi rips up the landscape, isn't interested in feeding, at least on flesh - maybe the mere feeding on beings' last emotions is enough?
Unlikely. I doubt that someone's final emotions are any more nutritive than others. I'd guess rather less so, since they are dying. It would seem a better plan to trap someone and drain their emotions on a regular basis, like Audrey II and Seymour. I'd like to see something definitive about this, though.
...then again, some people do like foie gras...
There's also the problem that impersonating Kria is unlikely to have a good outcome. If Abel goes back to Zinvth and starts telling people that Kria's been going on benders out in the woods, she's going to run afoul of the Creature Council. It's just a fine, but a hundred bucks here, a hundred bucks there, and pretty soon we're talking about real money.
Kria would not be pleased to be paying for food that she didn't eat, and I don't think that you want to see Kria angry.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 13, 2007, 12:48:33 AMQuote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 12:31:04 AMHas anyone ever said that Lorenda's her only child?
::Gives shave with Occam's Razor::
Did Manawolf just quote someone?
OK. Occam's Razor:
(1) Kria's alone out there, and she's been able to dodge powerful spells. Devin was wrong about there being multiple creatures out there. Demons never go on rampages unless it's kin, and Kria doesn't have any kin.
(2) Kria's up there with her daughter.
I quote yes, but I don't make a quote pyramid. LEARN THE DIFFERENCE!
Quote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 01:03:42 AM
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on January 13, 2007, 12:39:11 AMThink about it... Random Cubi rips up the landscape, isn't interested in feeding, at least on flesh - maybe the mere feeding on beings' last emotions is enough?
Unlikely. I doubt that someone's final emotions are any more nutritive than others. I'd guess rather less so, since they are dying. It would seem a better plan to trap someone and drain their emotions on a regular basis, like Audrey II and Seymour. I'd like to see something definitive about this, though.
Kinda like Dracula, hmm? Well you'd have to be careful how you trap someone...enough time around someone, especially if you're feeding off their emotions, will make you take on some traits of the other person...or at least as far as I've noticed.
That makes me thing; I wonder how many Cubi go mad? That might explain the rampages. Might.
Quote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 12:31:04 AM
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on January 13, 2007, 12:19:11 AMI'm officially throwing crazy theory #1 in and betting that Kria is actually a Cubi in disguise. Come on, appearing as one of his favorite teachers is almost TOO coincidental, even if she's a demon.
Gyaah! Brain...hurts!
On its face, it's not that bad of a theory, but if you take it to its logical conclusion, it gets very bad. Why would the creature be there in the first place? The creature would have to not have it in for Abel, but not want to expose itself as one of the `cubi. Why? It would then obviously want something with Abel. For that to work, it would have to have engineered Cindy's death. It doesn't make sense.
Maybe she wanted a baby from Abel :mwaha
Quote from: HeroZero on January 13, 2007, 01:32:37 AMThat makes me thing; I wonder how many Cubi go mad? That might explain the rampages. Might.
Except that the only character that we know of definitively going on rampages is Kria, and she doesn't absorb emotions.
Quote from: Fex on January 13, 2007, 01:33:48 AMMaybe she wanted a baby from Abel :mwaha
You just want my brain to die, don't you?
Quote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 01:39:58 AM
Quote from: Fex on January 13, 2007, 01:33:48 AMMaybe she wanted a baby from Abel :mwaha
You just want my brain to die, don't you?
ZOMG How did you find out of my master plan :bunny
Edit: Fixed your quote, there. :-) -- llearch
*pushes a stack of poker chips forward*
I say... she didn't kill them.
Kinda hard to play poker when only one person holds any cards.
I'd say this would be more like Russian roulette with an Armory full of revolvers and only one bullet.
Quote from: DigitalMan on January 13, 2007, 02:27:32 AM*pushes a stack of poker chips forward*
I say... she didn't kill them.
I'll bet you exactly one Coke that either she did, or she was part of the party that did.
Think. What would a schoolteacher be doing there on a school day? And this isn't at night; this is broad daylight. You also don't send a response team to a massacre that consists of a lone schoolteacher. She's a very capable schoolteacher, yes, but I'll bet that the Zinvth town guard could eliminate her in their sleep.
In addition, the signal that Xander sent up is unlikely to be intended for Zinvth, and police on Earth have enough trouble with reconciling 10-codes, so it's unlikely that Zinvth would even know that someone needed a response.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 13, 2007, 01:14:47 AM
I quote yes, but I don't make a quote pyramid. LEARN THE DIFFERENCE!
Relax, man! I don't believe that there's been a pyramid of over three in this thread. 'Sides, it's an extra few centimeters on your screen. It ought to be a non-issue!
I personally believe that Kria is definitely the one who killed Abel's companions. I also think that she is warning him against beings, not a companion of hers. After all, he now officially has four more wings than most villagers- his virtue was doubted just for having two. The second set mark him quite clearly as an incubus.
It doesn't seem all that clear if she did it, or if she did she did everything
I dont think she did the slaghter at least, there's not a drop of blood on her unless she knows dress-washing magic... and that sexy dress isn't a good choice for battle
Quote from: superluser on January 12, 2007, 09:12:21 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 12, 2007, 08:49:00 PMThere's only three other kids in-shot though.. not really enough to tell. Aren't modern-style cities supposed to be more of a Being thing? (The city itself protected by demons/angels in exchange for a tribute)
Also Beings are the most populous race in Furrae - Cid and May are allowed to roam the city without being eaten so Beings are obviously welcome/tolerated within it.
I've missed the part where Zinvth is protected by demons/angels for a tribute.
I meant cities in general more than Zinvth specifically. The point I was trying to make was that with cities, you have a whole load of Beings there to help run it, but they have to pay a tribute of some kind.
Here's Amber's description from The Nice (add 'cities' entry to wiki?):
http://nice.llearch.net/dmfa_forum2443.htm#ref16
QuoteAs to Cid and May being able to roam the city, I've said before that they are paying for Abel's tuition, and Abel's tuition pays their salaries, so...
To summarize: if you're a Being who lives
inside the city, you're safe as long as you do what you're told and pay the tithes (see link). If you live
outside the city, you could find yourself in big, big trouble. I believe that is what we're seeing.
QuoteAnyways, it could be the Creature school. You presume that there are at least 50% Beings, but I see no evidence to support that.
Only that Beings are the most populous race. Now it might be that Zinvth literally is a 'demon city', a safe haven for Beings and Creatures alike, and thus has a disproportionately high Creature:Being ratio, as opposed to a Being city with a Creature patron (see the Angel demonology).
As for the 'Creature School' theory, it could be, or it could be that Abel got shunted into a Creature class without him or his parents knowing.
The flaw in that is that since most Creatures are good at magic anyway, Kria's little chat with May should have happened differently - if at all.
**EDIT**
Quote from: Jack McSlay on January 13, 2007, 06:18:47 AM
I dont think she did the slaghter at least, there's not a drop of blood on her unless she knows dress-washing magic... and that sexy dress isn't a good choice for battle
My theory from last night was that she's the instructor, and the Creatures doing the slaughter are her students.
Anyone else wonder if that's really Kria? Not only does she look young, but she looks considerable more, well, horsey. The eyes are different too; something about them reminds me of F'alina...
Either that, or Amber's changed her style for equine characters. If so, I like it! :love2
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 12, 2007, 08:39:16 PM
*puts on hula skirt and twists*
:-)
Most excellent, Amber. Indeed.
hehehe, glad that i wasnt the only one with that in my mind..!
Great Strip.. i love seeing the young(er) Kria!
BTW, I hope that everybody noticed that although this page contains a considerable and enjoyable plot-twist, the story in itself and especially the dialogue are pretty banal!
Abel:
"I want to go home."
"I just.. want to go home.."
Kria:
"You need to go home."
Well, at least both of them want the same thing. :mowcookie
Quote from: Violet Dusk on January 13, 2007, 07:27:51 AM
Anyone else wonder if that's really Kria? Not only does she look young, but she looks considerable more, well, horsey. The eyes are different too; something about them reminds me of F'alina...
Either that, or Amber's changed her style for equine characters. If so, I like it! :love2
doing some simple math, i'd say during the earlier parts of abel's story, kria's roughly 19.
don't believe me?.. compare Kria and Abel's ages from the cast pages..
Quote from: Turnsky on January 13, 2007, 07:56:59 AM
doing some simple math, i'd say during the earlier parts of abel's story, kria's roughly 19.
don't believe me?.. compare Kria and Abel's ages from the cast pages..
That would make her about 36 and she looks younger now than she did then >:3
Quote from: Violet Dusk on January 13, 2007, 07:27:51 AM
Anyone else wonder if that's really Kria? Not only does she look young, but she looks considerable more, well, horsey. The eyes are different too; something about them reminds me of F'alina...
Either that, or Amber's changed her style for equine characters. If so, I like it! :love2
Of course change of art style is a real possibility but what about the effects of growing up?
True she's not that old (for a demon) in the present storyline (418) so she could be a skinny youth in the Abel arch and a full grown women in the present day. I like both styles for different reasons anyway. I have no idea at what speed demons age anyway.
It would be cruel to have two different characters with the same name (the old daughter named after the mother trick) and is unlikely all things considered.
And I've just noticed Turnsky and tapewolf have already pointed this out, oh well.
Why is there no posts for ages then at least one while I'm witting mine?
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 13, 2007, 08:09:25 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on January 13, 2007, 07:56:59 AM
doing some simple math, i'd say during the earlier parts of abel's story, kria's roughly 19.
don't believe me?.. compare Kria and Abel's ages from the cast pages..
That would make her about 36 and she looks younger now than she did then >:3
So.. she's now conscious of her age, and attempting to look younger?
Nothing terribly unusual there, although with the extended lifespan, not what I'd expect....
*Charline >:3 * This is so much fun! I really hope Kria did kill them because it just makes the setup for Abel's mental torment even worse! Oh how I love it when they break down into insanity from the trauma! :mwaha
Quote from: Charline on January 13, 2007, 10:58:53 AM
Oh how I love it when they break down into insanity from the trauma!
Well, that explains a lot about her, I guess :rolleyes
**EDIT**
If anyone doubts Kria's involvement, take a look at her hands! She's been doing the hoof-sharpening thing like Pegasus did to kill Dan.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 13, 2007, 06:31:59 AMI meant cities in general more than Zinvth specifically. The point I was trying to make was that with cities, you have a whole load of Beings there to help run it, but they have to pay a tribute of some kind.
Here's Amber's description from The Nice (add 'cities' entry to wiki?):
http://nice.llearch.net/dmfa_forum2443.htm#ref16
Hrm. As you (predicted I'd) say, Zinvth may be a special case. If several major cities are run/under the patronage of Creatures, then it might seem odd to call it *the* Demon City. On the other hand, Cid was probably just using a non-exclusive appositive. It still sounds to me like there's something different about Zinvth.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 13, 2007, 06:31:59 AMAs for the 'Creature School' theory, it could be, or it could be that Abel got shunted into a Creature class without him or his parents knowing.
The flaw in that is that since most Creatures are good at magic anyway, Kria's little chat with May should have happened differently - if at all.
It could be that the creature school had ``open enrollment,'' similar to how some primary schools have a Gender Roles in Mathematics class which is technically identical to the standard math class, but boys won't take it.
May might have just wanted Abel away from the Beings, on general principles, based on their previous experiences, and Kria either sensed that Abel was a creature or figured that since May was uncomfortable talking about Abel's parentage, he must be an incubus.
It's also quite possible that, even in Zinvth, Beings really hate Creatures. After all, would you like being in the same classroom as the taxman, or would you feel all that charitable to someone who viewed you as nothing more than a robotnik or a sokman?
Quote from: Jack McSlay on January 13, 2007, 06:18:47 AMI dont think she did the slaghter at least, there's not a drop of blood on her unless she knows dress-washing magic... and that sexy dress isn't a good choice for battle
Well, that was all ranged magic--no blood anywhere near her. Plus, the previous deaths really might have been caused by an upset lantern. And to top it off, if Devin & al. had the time to clean up after handling the battle, then Kria certainly did.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 13, 2007, 11:15:36 AMIf anyone doubts Kria's involvement, take a look at her hands! She's been doing the hoof-sharpening thing like Pegasus did to kill Dan.
Well, there's a difference between ``I commit murder on a regular basis'' and ``I committed that murder.'' And oddly enough. it'll actually stand up in court.
Quote
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 13, 2007, 11:15:36 AMIf anyone doubts Kria's involvement, take a look at her hands! She's been doing the hoof-sharpening thing like Pegasus did to kill Dan.
Well, there's a difference between ``I commit murder on a regular basis'' and ``I committed that murder.'' And oddly enough. it'll actually stand up in court.
Well we're probably going to find out next week anyway, but just for comparison, check out her hands in #335: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_335.php
..now compare with #334 after she's just glugged the Delivery boy: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_334.php
IMHO the most likely explanation is that she was going to look for and kill any survivors.
..although as you say, all this is circumstantial...
*Forehead smack* OK, why am I surprised by her showing up? And where the H*LL is her daughter???
Okay, I'm going to side with the people who say Kria is in on it. But am I the only one who noticed that there are attacks still going on as she just stands there? Behind the speech bubbles on the right in the big panel?
Quote from: Aleolus on January 13, 2007, 02:32:45 PM
*Forehead smack* OK, why am I surprised by her showing up? And where the H*LL is her daughter???
If you're talking about Lorenda, she's only 24 in the regular comic, for crying out loud >.>
Quote from: Lomgren on January 13, 2007, 02:34:54 PMOkay, I'm going to side with the people who say Kria is in on it. But am I the only one who noticed that there are attacks still going on as she just stands there? Behind the speech bubbles on the right in the big panel?
That was the ice spell that Devin cast. The spell may be magic, but the ice is real, and it will take some time to melt.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 13, 2007, 01:59:33 PMWell we're probably going to find out next week anyway, but just for comparison, check out her hands in #335: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_335.php
..now compare with #334 after she's just glugged the Delivery boy: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_334.php
When she was in kindergarden she also had her hands in non-hostile mode: 25 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_25.php), 26 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_26.php).
Contrary to now.
Oy, Kria...
When I read this comic, a part of me was relieved at least that someone was around who knew Abel and would probably help him. And the second part definitely thought that she had a bit of involvement in this whole thing. I saw the sharp claws too...
Makes me wonder just what'll happen if he does come across Kria again in the DMFA storyline...or at least Lorenda.
I just reread the archives and noticed that strip 5 was named "Part One: Summer of Youth".
So far there was no "Part Two". Does this mean we are still in Part 1 (of X)? Or did Amber just abandon the numbering?
I mean, at the beginning of the storyline I thought Abel's Story would last some twenty strips or so. Now we are at 66, no end in sight and we are possibly still in part 1!
And for those who remember it: The alternative to Abel's Story would have been Regina's Story. Regina has been in the cast page for what seems to be an eternity and she has yet to make an appearance...
I am still of the opinion Kria did not do it. I mean, that watch post on the border, thus, BOTH cities near it are supposed to come to the aide should a signal go out. It could be a nutual non-aggression treaty or something. Just because one saide is more powerful does not mean the other can't everrun them; a treaty would make life easier for BOTH sides and the watch tower would be there to prevent either side from having people who feel like brekaing the rule. I still think Kria came to see what the signal was about. Expecting combat would make her put her hooves in claw-mode. :)
Quote from: Akisohida on January 13, 2007, 03:20:29 PMI still think Kria came to see what the signal was about. Expecting combat would make her put her hooves in claw-mode. :)
Why would she be expecting combat? The reason given for the fire was an accident with fire safety. Now as to whether or not that be true, it is what Xander would have said.
Edit: You know, it sounded wrong when I was writing it. The creatures that attacked the travellers were long gone by the time that our heroes arrived, and there would have been no indication that they intended to come back.
:tib3
You also seem to be missing the fact that Kria is ignoring Devin, who is obviously very recently deceased. I would have expected her to react quite differently if she cared at all about Beings. I suspect that she would have said something like ``Oh, my goodness, Abel! I'm so sorry. We need to get you out of here before anything else happens. Is there anyone else around who might be in need of help?''
By Kria's response, we can be pretty sure that either she's either on the side of those who did it, or she thinks that Abel did it and she's playing coy.
Quote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 03:53:49 PM
Quote from: Akisohida on January 13, 2007, 03:20:29 PMI still think Kria came to see what the signal was about. Expecting combat would make her put her hooves in claw-mode. :)
Why would she be expecting combat? The reason given for the fire was an accident with fire safety. Now as to whether or not that be true, it is what Xander would have said.
Edit: You know, it sounded wrong when I was writing it. The creatures that attacked the travellers were long gone by the time that our heroes arrived, and there would have been no indication that they intended to come back.
:tib3
You also seem to be missing the fact that Kria is ignoring Devin, who is obviously very recently deceased. I would have expected her to react quite differently if she cared at all about Beings. I suspect that she would have said something like ``Oh, my goodness, Abel! I'm so sorry. We need to get you out of here before anything else happens. Is there anyone else around who might be in need of help?''
By Kria's response, we can be pretty sure that either she's either on the side of those who did it, or she thinks that Abel did it and she's playing coy.
Again, she could be staying calm to keep Abel calm. Rather than "Oh jeeze!" she is trying to get Abel away from the fight and freaking him out would not help. (Can someone explain to me why my firefox is opening a "find" bar if I press the " button without the shift key? Also, I can not use the arrows to move my cursor left or right. o.O)
Oh but... Does anyone else here actually think of the poor drama and consider that it might be a good thing if Kria is actually there to cause random havoc? I mean, sure it's as good a possibility that she isn't, but that just doesn't lend itself to more plot...
Quote from: Akisohida on January 13, 2007, 04:44:39 PMAgain, she could be staying calm to keep Abel calm. Rather than "Oh jeeze!" she is trying to get Abel away from the fight and freaking him out would not help.
Her response is rather too cold, I think. Abel doesn't want a schoolmarm to be telling him what to do, he wants a motherly figure to tell him that everything's going to be OK, and that he'll be out of harm's way presently. Kria ordering Abel around isn't likely to help, either.
Also, ``If anyone sees you, they'll probably kill you'' is not going to help lower Abel's blood pressure. (Unless... :B )
BOOOOOOO, it's Kria.
I don't care how she's involved I just really hate that character.
She needs to catch the Demon version of the Clap.
Also, it's now Abel Dent.
Quote from: Jim Halisstrad on January 13, 2007, 05:25:57 PMBOOOOOOO, it's Kria.
I don't care how she's involved I just really hate that character.
She needs to catch the Demon version of the Clap.
Quit pussyfooting around and tell us how you really feel.
Quote from: Jim Halisstrad on January 13, 2007, 05:25:57 PMAlso, it's now Abel Dent.
I dunno. Arthur Dent never gave up.
QuoteLittle Boy: Avoid the clap, Jimmy Dugan.
Jimmy Dugan: Hey, that's good advice!
Quote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 03:53:49 PM
You also seem to be missing the fact that Kria is ignoring Devin, who is obviously very recently deceased. I would have expected her to react quite differently if she cared at all about Beings. I suspect that she would have said something like ``Oh, my goodness, Abel! I'm so sorry. We need to get you out of here before anything else happens. Is there anyone else around who might be in need of help?''
By Kria's response, we can be pretty sure that either she's either on the side of those who did it, or she thinks that Abel did it and she's playing coy.
I doubt it, I get the feeling that she sees the corpse, knows it's a corpse and prioritizes getting Abel the heck out of there before helping him deal with his dead friend. On the battle field you ALWAYS put the living above the dead, or the living soon become the dead.
Quote from: Akisohida on January 13, 2007, 04:44:39 PM
(Can someone explain to me why my firefox is opening a "find" bar if I press the " button without the shift key? Also, I can not use the arrows to move my cursor left or right. o.O)
Same thing kept happening to me at the time. Must have been a forum bug. More on-topic, I am siding with those that suspect Kria of being involved.
Quote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 01:50:15 PM
Well, there's a difference between ``I commit murder on a regular basis'' and ``I committed that murder.'' And oddly enough. it'll actually stand up in court.
and don't forget "i like to have a good manicure" :P
Quote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 02:47:48 PM
Quote from: Lomgren on January 13, 2007, 02:34:54 PMOkay, I'm going to side with the people who say Kria is in on it. But am I the only one who noticed that there are attacks still going on as she just stands there? Behind the speech bubbles on the right in the big panel?
That was the ice spell that Devin cast. The spell may be magic, but the ice is real, and it will take some time to melt.
Oh, I forgot about that. That's what happens when you read too many comics to remember them all.
When I saw Kira there standing there like it was nothing and telling Abel *You must go home Now*. I'm really suspicious of her and her statements and her actions. I'm hoping for Kira that she's not the beast that was causing havoc on that outpost. Or she came when she got the message from Xander. I don't know but I'm leaning on the first statement maybe she did killed Xander killed everybody for reasons we don't know. Right now I'm totally suspicious of Kira at this point.
I'd be suspicious of Kira, too.
I mean, we've seen Kria, and she's bad enough, but not Kira. Who the heck is Kira?
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 13, 2007, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: Charline on January 13, 2007, 10:58:53 AM
Oh how I love it when they break down into insanity from the trauma!
Well, that explains a lot about her, I guess :rolleyes
**EDIT**
If anyone doubts Kria's involvement, take a look at her hands! She's been doing the hoof-sharpening thing like Pegasus did to kill Dan.
Actually, couldn't the hoof-sharpening be from prepping for a long distance run?
On the flipside, she may have some enchantments to keep blood off her, since we've never seen her with blood despite references to killings in normal DMFA.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on January 14, 2007, 07:32:06 AM
On the flipside, she may have some enchantments to keep blood off her, since we've never seen her with blood despite references to killings in normal DMFA.
Good point. On the way to Jyrras' place she kills both the pizza boy and one of Jyrras' gardeners* and yet is entirely free from blood.
*Of course anyone who's played Ultima 9 will know how annoying gardeners are and the fact that you don't lose any karma for giving them an arrow in the back is an added bonus.
Well, considering what they've been being attacked with, blood is difficult to get on yourself from that far away...
Quote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 01:50:15 PM
Hrm. As you (predicted I'd) say, Zinvth may be a special case. If several major cities are run/under the patronage of Creatures, then it might seem odd to call it *the* Demon City. On the other hand, Cid was probably just using a non-exclusive appositive. It still sounds to me like there's something different about Zinvth.
You might find this interesting.. I've just checked the Demons entry on the demonology (composing the Demons entry for the wiki): there
are no known demon cities. I'd say that makes Zinvth a Being city protected by demons, and containing a larger than usual demon population.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on January 14, 2007, 07:32:06 AMActually, couldn't the hoof-sharpening be from prepping for a long distance run?
Maybe for a sprint, but after the first few steps, you'd be better off with blunter hooves. With sharp hooves, you spend more energy digging into the dirt, leaving you less to run. The goal is to not have your feet/hooves move at all when in contact with the ground.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 14, 2007, 08:23:41 AMYou might find this interesting.. I've just checked the Demons entry on the demonology (composing the Demons entry for the wiki): there are no known demon cities. I'd say that makes Zinvth a Being city protected by demons, and containing a larger than usual demon population.
Well, I never took Cid's comment literally. More like the ``All Creatures are demonic'' trope again. We've only seen two demonic characters in there, and we've seen mythos and dragons in there, too.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 14, 2007, 06:42:46 AMI'd be suspicious of Kira, too.
I mean, we've seen Kria, and she's bad enough, but not Kira. Who the heck is Kira?
I wonder if people are spell checking these. In both the forum spell check and Firefox spell check, Kria comes up as a misspelling, with Kira as the primary correction.
Amber must be able to play games again. More and more Tales of Symphonia references. o:
Quote from: superluser on January 13, 2007, 05:24:13 PM
Quote from: Akisohida on January 13, 2007, 04:44:39 PMAgain, she could be staying calm to keep Abel calm. Rather than "Oh jeeze!" she is trying to get Abel away from the fight and freaking him out would not help.
Her response is rather too cold, I think. Abel doesn't want a schoolmarm to be telling him what to do, he wants a motherly figure to tell him that everything's going to be OK, and that he'll be out of harm's way presently. Kria ordering Abel around isn't likely to help, either.
Also, ``If anyone sees you, they'll probably kill you'' is not going to help lower Abel's blood pressure. (Unless... :B )
First off, she was surprised to see him. She didn't ponder, "What would be the best way to handle this problem?"
I'm going to throw in as second, she may still think he is a Being. She knows he has back wings and hasn't noticed the headwings. If so, she may be afraid that whoever is with her will kill him. She may have to fight against an ally to defend a
Being, for crying out loud. That would result in bad blood between the two.
If she does recognize him as an Incubus, then her concern is Glory and company may do him in.
She is not being cold. She even addressed him as "Hon." However, they are on a battlefield, and he may be killed at any moment. This is no time for motherly cuddles; he has to get a move on.
Okay, Abel. Tap your heels together and say, "There's no place like home." :mowhappy
With regards,
Ted
I thought beings didn't have wings.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on January 14, 2007, 05:17:50 PM
I thought beings didn't have wings.
The Phoenix (B) group are classed as Beings, and they have wings. It's not impossible, just very rare.
Quote from: Ted Schiller on January 14, 2007, 05:02:05 PMFirst off, she was surprised to see him. She didn't ponder, "What would be the best way to handle this problem?"
[...]
I'm going to throw in as second, she may still think he is a Being. She knows he has back wings and hasn't noticed the headwings.
[...]
If she does recognize him as an Incubus, then her concern is Glory and company may do him in.
(1) Mmmaybe. You do have to recall that she's an elementary school teacher. They have to think on their feet every day. Student gets her hair caught in the Selectric, and you have to give her the proper instructions immediately, while keeping her and the entire rest of the class calm.
(2) I doubt it. It's pretty obvious that he's got headwings. Ever talk to someone who's got that poppyseed stuck between their teeth? She's trying to recognize who it is, and so she's scanning the face and head for features (``Gracious! It is you!''). I think the headwings would be a little easier to spot than the poppy seed.
(3) Glory is dead and gone. At her head a green grass turfe and at her heels a stone.
...wait. What am I arguing about? My point was that she was unconcerned by Devin's death because she's on the side of those who did it. I don't see what any of your arguments have to do with that.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on January 14, 2007, 05:17:50 PMI thought beings didn't have wings.
Well, there's Merlitz, and I'm not sure where Hollyann or Felorin or Sunny fit into this. And Phoenix B, as Tapewolf said.
Quote from: superluser on January 14, 2007, 06:02:50 PM
(1) Mmmaybe. You do have to recall that she's an elementary school teacher.
She certainly was 18 years ago - we don't know if she still is, though. She might be teaching a completely different age group now - adolescent Demons, for instance, if we accept the 'hunting instructor' theory.
QuoteEver talk to someone who's got that poppyseed stuck between their teeth?
I'm kind of curious as to what that means... I hope Ted understood because I certainly didn't :3
QuoteGlory is dead and gone. At her head a green grass turfe and at her heels a stone.
If so, I wonder what happens to the cameos? Did they flee or was Amber's Christmas present to Zina a dead Llama? >:3
For the sake of argument I'm assuming they fled when the poncy Paladin bought it...
QuoteQuote from: Aridas Soulfire on January 14, 2007, 05:17:50 PMI thought beings didn't have wings.
Well, there's Merlitz, and I'm not sure where Hollyann or Felorin or Sunny fit into this. And Phoenix B, as Tapewolf said.
I think Sunny is a Phoenix - they have two forms IIRC. No idea about the others (although it was Aliyka who immediately sprang to mind). Merlitz was an example I was going to use but decided against because they're more like holo-wings than actual physical feathers.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 14, 2007, 06:14:26 PMShe certainly was 18 years ago - we don't know if she still is, though. She might be teaching a completely different age group now - adolescent Demons, for instance, if we accept the 'hunting instructor' theory.
Just because you stop teaching elementary school doesn't mean that you lose the life skills that you learned while doing so.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 14, 2007, 06:14:26 PMQuoteEver talk to someone who's got that poppyseed stuck between their teeth?
I'm kind of curious as to what that means... I hope Ted understood because I certainly didn't :3
My point is that you'd notice that that person had something stuck between their teeth right away. Headwings would be a little less of a challenge.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 14, 2007, 06:14:26 PMI think Sunny is a Phoenix - they have two forms IIRC. No idea about the others (although it was Aliyka who immediately sprang to mind). Merlitz was an example I was going to use but decided against because they're more like holo-wings than actual physical feathers.
Well, Merlitz's wings would seem to be more in line with Creatures than if he had normal wings. Aliyka sprang to mind, as well, but I think she's a Creature hybrid, right?
Quote from: superluser
Well, Merlitz's wings would seem to be more in line with Creatures than if he had normal wings. Aliyka sprang to mind, as well, but I think she's a Creature hybrid, right?
She's a Phoenix-B going by her cast page.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 14, 2007, 05:37:36 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on January 14, 2007, 05:17:50 PM
I thought beings didn't have wings.
The Phoenix (B) group are classed as Beings, and they have wings. It's not impossible, just very rare.
They's birds though, birds are SUPPOSED to have wings. >.>
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 14, 2007, 07:02:41 PMShe's a Phoenix-B going by her cast page.
Sigh. Right again. I figured that only a Phoenix A could be an oracle, and that that's what she sent away to be in 117...
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on January 14, 2007, 08:30:00 PMThey's birds though, birds are SUPPOSED to have wings. >.>
Aww, way to ruin perfectly good speculation!
This whole "speculation" thing would be much more fun without logic! >:3
... just ask Charline. :-)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 14, 2007, 09:17:22 PM
... just ask Charline. :-)
Queen of telemarketing and speculations
And the Mistress of mail fraud and predictions! :)
And fear-er of spiders! :mwaha
OhhH! DMFA has not updated yet and it is 11PM EST! I need my DMFA fix with a really, really late dinner! *Pokes Amber* :)
Ok, ok, I am not really serious. I just think Amber might be tired of hearing 'Take your time!' and 'It's cool if it is late!' She must have been waiting for the other shoe to drop for years so..
Amber! The comic is not updating yet! Where are you? Update! I need my DMFA hit to get through Monday!
*End snooty fan yelling* There you go, Amber. I have done my civic duty. ^.^ *Hides from spider-swatters*
Kria, congratulations. You just made the top of my Least Favorite Character list... assuming she DID kill Devin and Xander. Hell is probably going to break loose if she DID, since I doubt Abel is going to assume that she was just going on a leisurely stroll through a wartorn battlefield. I'd especially LOVE to hear her excuse for being down there in the first place.
Unless it's like the Demonic pastime of Zinvth.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I would love to hear the explaination from Kria. In Abel case I hope he see through the deception and try to stop her hmmmmmmmmmm decisions, decisions, I hope Abel makes the right one.
I find it kinda funny if not a bit Naive that people have been trying to defend Kria. I don't think anything in her background has ever suggested she isn't a killing machine. She murdered her own husband for cheating on her, and she's killed others. While the characters in DMFA are often cast in a cute/pleasant way they will sooner or later do things that aren't so cute. It just hasn't been cast in a serious light until Amber started making Abel's Story, which doesn't try to sugar-coat things with weekly punchlines or giggles.
How would you feel about Lorenda if Amber decided to make a comic depicting one of her victims being eaten alive? >:3
Kria is evil as far as beings are concerned, though she obviously has a kinder side when dealing with other creatures and beings related to those on her good side (Like how her daughter is on good terms with the main cast). Glory is most likely dead. Best case scenario; she's probably injured and somehow got herself to safety. Needless to say, Abel is very fortunate that Kria is his teacher. Had it been any creature responsible for this, he probably would have been killed for being associated with the others. Or, at best, left alone surrounded by the corpses of his friends in the middle of the woods.
Quote from: Goatmon on January 21, 2007, 05:31:19 AM
I find it kinda funny if not a bit Naive that people have been trying to defend Kria. I don't think anything in her background has ever suggested she isn't a killing machine. She murdered her own husband for cheating on her, and she's killed others.
Remember, this is happening nearly 400 years ago. There's no question that she's evil by our standards in the present day.
The real question to me, is
when she started doing that stuff.
Was she a killing machine when she was happily teaching young Beings and Creatures at infants school when she was about 19? If so, that's a mighty strange choice for that teaching role.
I'm of the opinion that her attitudes have changed in the intervening 17 years or so, and she is now teaching 'killing enemy Beings'.
Perhaps she's simply a supervillain. Teacher by day, killer by night.....and also killer by daytime whenever it's convinient. >3
Seriously though, I think that in the case of many creatures, killing beings has to be second nature if they are to survive. Although what happened earlier to those poor folk and the fort (Page 44) wasn't likely an act of self-defense.
Then Kria is evil regardless and killing being left and right without provication. She's evil 400 years ago *A lepoard an never changes his spots* or in Kria case her stripes. Anywho I had many suspicions about her and her past and it's comming out like a nightmare henceforth Kria is Kria.