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Title: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on January 04, 2007, 09:44:37 PM
hmm, Amber needs to watch more scrubs reruns to really make Abel's personality shine.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Faerie Alex on January 04, 2007, 09:45:57 PM
And, in other news, Mab is now grapes. Soon, we'll be able to make a fruit salad. :mwaha
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Caswin on January 04, 2007, 09:46:24 PM
Clever use of shapeshifting by Abel.  Nice.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Boog on January 04, 2007, 09:46:43 PM
Heh. He is getting a tad predictable. I honestly don't see why he'd think Jyrras had a problem with his cubidom though. He has shown no sign whatsoever of treating him differently. Hell, he's the one who gave him the bracer patch. Expensive piece of equipment there, and he handed it over for a friend in need. And he's worried about Jyrras trusting him?
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Aisha deCabre on January 04, 2007, 09:50:12 PM
Indeed.  Dan needs to get over a few security issues, but he can't seem to handle them one at a time.  First the Cubi thing and now poor Jy-Jy...  :rolleyes

On a lighter note...I absolutely LOVE Abel's expression in the last panel.  The first comic in a while that actually made me snort loudly.   :U
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Hellcat on January 04, 2007, 09:50:53 PM
Abel won't be like that for long once Dan tells him who Jyrras' new crush is, hehe
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: superluser on January 04, 2007, 09:58:30 PM
Gentlemen, I do believe someone owes me a Coke.  I said that there would be at least one more strip with an Abel punchline, and there was.  And a reference to Abel reading Dan's thoughts.

Furthermore, dancing. :ipod

Also, Jyrras is, by definition, afraid of Dan, now that Dan's an incubus.  He's afraid that Dan will read his thoughts without his permission.  Now, that doesn't mean that he's afraid of incubi in general, but it does mean that Dan's statement is true.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Sid on January 04, 2007, 10:09:20 PM
As funny as the comic is, I think that Abel is focusing a bit too much on the small picture. Kinda hoping that they won't just leave it at that and go moping again...
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Supercheese on January 04, 2007, 10:15:52 PM
Anyone else notice the "Jyras" in the first panel? Shouldn't it be "Jyrras"?

Looking in Amber's Rant, methinks I know why...

QuoteIn other news...I got a new keyboard...so if I have a billion typos...its likely because I'm still trying to get the hang of typing on the blasted thing.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: superluser on January 04, 2007, 10:22:46 PM
Quote from: Sid on January 04, 2007, 10:09:20 PMAs funny as the comic is, I think that Abel is focusing a bit too much on the small picture. Kinda hoping that they won't just leave it at that and go moping again...

Nah.  This is just Amber letting us catch our breath before the next series of strips, which are going to be a long series of cliffhanger-style action.  The next strip will probably be one of the following:

(*) Jyrras/the reporter running into Alexsi
(*) the reporter/Merlitz's old party returning to Lost Lake
(*) an ``Elsewhere...'' shot of the party returning to the dragons
(*) an ``Elsewhere...'' shot of Merlitz's present party reporting back to Destania (not likely, but included for reasons of symmetry)
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Zedd on January 04, 2007, 10:29:14 PM
Assholeim Abel 101 is now open for classes...
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Kenji on January 04, 2007, 10:31:17 PM
Wow, Abel never looked better! O:
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Anri on January 04, 2007, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: Sid on January 04, 2007, 10:09:20 PM
As funny as the comic is, I think that Abel is focusing a bit too much on the small picture.

I'm thinking it's more along the lines of 'Education via blunt trauma'.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Sirius Griffon on January 04, 2007, 10:33:52 PM
That last expression s indeed quite priceless. *grins* And yeah, Dans pretty easy to read without having to 'Read' I would think. *smiles*
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: RushFox on January 04, 2007, 10:37:10 PM
Classic Abel.

I guess this also falls under his "sucks to be you" policy...  :giggle

That "Dur de dur" expression on the last panel? Win.

Fanboy commentary aside, I think Danny boy needs talk to Jyrras soon and get this matter straightened out ASAP. I can only take moping lead characters for so long.

Actually, I think another "adventure" is needed here. *hint hint*  :)
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Sid on January 04, 2007, 10:41:41 PM
Quote from: superluser on January 04, 2007, 10:22:46 PM
Nah.  This is just Amber letting us catch our breath before the next series of strips, which are going to be a long series of cliffhanger-style action.  The next strip will probably be one of the following:

(*) Jyrras/the reporter running into Alexsi
(*) the reporter/Merlitz's old party returning to Lost Lake
(*) an ``Elsewhere...'' shot of the party returning to the dragons
(*) an ``Elsewhere...'' shot of Merlitz's present party reporting back to Destania (not likely, but included for reasons of symmetry)

Yes, I'm afraid you may be right ;)
Ah well. We'll see how things end... or not... *leans back, adjusts his sunglasses and watches*

Quote from: Tikki on January 04, 2007, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: Sid on January 04, 2007, 10:09:20 PM
As funny as the comic is, I think that Abel is focusing a bit too much on the small picture.

I'm thinking it's more along the lines of 'Education via blunt trauma'.

No, it's Abel not wanting to solve other people's problems (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_574.php). So he's simply focusing on small-scale stuff. I understand the position, but I don't fully agree with the execution.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Roureem Egas on January 04, 2007, 10:42:19 PM
Glad to see Dan has some sense of maturity. :) Even if it is in a rather skewed way.

As for Abel's impressoion of Dan, it was spot on. :O
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Turnsky on January 04, 2007, 10:43:02 PM
so abel's a cynic as well as a psychic..  :mowcookie
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Anri on January 04, 2007, 11:01:15 PM
Quote from: Sid on January 04, 2007, 10:41:41 PM
No, it's Abel not wanting to solve other people's problems (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_574.php). So he's simply focusing on small-scale stuff. I understand the position, but I don't fully agree with the execution.

Perhaps a bit of both even.
a: Keep me outta this trainwreck!
b: Stop blaming everything on being a 'cubi, you moron.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Boog on January 04, 2007, 11:12:36 PM
Quote from: Sirius Griffon on January 04, 2007, 10:33:52 PM
That last expression s indeed quite priceless. *grins* And yeah, Dans pretty easy to read without having to 'Read' I would think. *smiles*
"See Dan. See Dan whine. Whine Dan, Whine!
See Abel. See Abel mock Dan. Silly Abel, Dan will still whine."
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Manawolf on January 04, 2007, 11:14:39 PM
Those teeth looked a little crooked.  Here, let me see if I can straighten them out...
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 04, 2007, 11:23:32 PM
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on January 04, 2007, 09:50:12 PM
On a lighter note...I absolutely LOVE Abel's expression in the last panel.  The first comic in a while that actually made me snort loudly.   :U

It's still making me laugh. :-)


... incidentally, Sid - yes, you're going straight to hell for that sig. I'm still laughing about that, too...
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: superluser on January 04, 2007, 11:51:37 PM
Apropos of the donation box...

If Pyro's the banana, and Mab's the grape, does this mean that we'll be seeing Jyrras as the pretzel?
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Madd the Sane on January 05, 2007, 12:12:25 AM
No, we'll be seeing Dan as an onion.
:erk

Sorry, that was the first thing that came to my mind.  A pickle sounds better, but Dan isn't that green.  :3
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Distracting on January 05, 2007, 12:41:09 AM
=O I'll bet it's that fiendish new keyboard!


My first suggestion would be to fix it with the Battle Axe of Fixing (it's a simple but expensive process, the only drawback), but I doubt many people have one lying around...


And on a note that pertains to the topic, I love how Abel looks in the third panel. It looks oddly familiar.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Supercheese on January 05, 2007, 12:46:08 AM
Quote from: topher chee on January 05, 2007, 12:35:22 AM
An error!  My first encounter with an error.  You spelled Jyrras wrong Amber haha, first panel, first sentence I believe.  No biggy though.

Already mentioned that, but yes.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Madd the Sane on January 05, 2007, 01:05:05 AM
Quote from: HeroZero on January 05, 2007, 12:41:09 AM
And on a note that pertains to the topic, I love how Abel looks in the third panel. It looks oddly familiar.
That's because it looks similar to the "Artist Vision" bunny.  I can't remember when it was, though.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Distracting on January 05, 2007, 01:14:29 AM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on January 05, 2007, 01:05:05 AM
Quote from: HeroZero on January 05, 2007, 12:41:09 AM
And on a note that pertains to the topic, I love how Abel looks in the third panel. It looks oddly familiar.
That's because it looks similar to the "Artist Vision" bunny.  I can't remember when it was, though.
Oh yeah, I remember that. I also just remembered that the face looks similar to certain cartoon faces after the character got hit with a frying pan or something.

Ah, cartoons from the good ol' days. I miss all that silly violence that oddly enough made me laugh a little... *nostalgia and such*
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Valynth on January 05, 2007, 01:17:27 AM
I don't, characters often changed from episode to episode and continuity humor is some of the best kind in my opinion.  It's an aquired taste I guess.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Zedd on January 05, 2007, 01:31:37 AM
Dans having a bad day
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Distracting on January 05, 2007, 01:34:39 AM
Well I've always thought continuity humor has always been better than just the 'you got hit with a shovel' type humor. I mean, I loved the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series which also had jokes spread out through the series and clever at that.

Also, the Artist's Vision is comic 672 (don't ask. I was that bored).
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: superluser on January 05, 2007, 01:44:04 AM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on January 05, 2007, 12:12:25 AMNo, we'll be seeing Dan as an onion.

How about Dan as Onion Kid?

I still wonder why Pyro's a banana.  Is it because Pyro flies like a banana?

Quote from: topher chee on January 05, 2007, 12:35:22 AMAn error!  My first encounter with an error.  You spelled Jyrras wrong Amber haha, first panel, first sentence I believe.  No biggy though.

Sigh.  You know, if it's not a funny or interesting error, maybe it would be better to take it to PMs, rather than posting to the entire board, and expecting to get your metric tonne of bay leaves as a reward.

this has been mentioned before (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1820.msg74796#msg74796).
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Aridas on January 05, 2007, 01:50:56 AM
But.. but onion kids are useless D:
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Netami on January 05, 2007, 01:57:50 AM
They are not! They're just... late bloomers.  :veryevil
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Sirius Griffon on January 05, 2007, 02:06:50 AM
Myself, I kind of like seeing these long storylines and where they will end up going. *smiles*

Wow, Dan as an onion? Oddly, I want to see someone as a hot pepper as something *laughs* But if there was to be another there, it would probably be as an apple or orange or something else pretty fruistbaskety common. Maybe. ><;;
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Valynth on January 05, 2007, 02:25:30 AM
man, this thread has gone so healthy I could eat it.  Anyway, back to the topic.

What I would do in Dan's case is run, and keep running, maybe get a nice place in Mexico, or Cuba, much shorter lines to get into Cuba.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Turnsky on January 05, 2007, 02:29:17 AM
Quote from: Valynth on January 05, 2007, 02:25:30 AM
man, this thread has gone so healthy I could eat it.  Anyway, back to the topic.

What I would do in Dan's case is run, and keep running, maybe get a nice place in Mexico, or Cuba, much shorter lines to get into Cuba.

Running's always good, but given Dan's current company, that might be a somewhat futile task.  :mowtongue
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: LionHeart on January 05, 2007, 02:31:49 AM
Quote from: superluser on January 05, 2007, 01:44:04 AM
I still wonder why Pyro's a banana.  Is it because Pyro flies like a banana?

No, fruit flies like a banana... :P
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Madmann135 on January 05, 2007, 02:46:13 AM
a bananna doesn't fly it slips.

now hot peppers fly... or make you fly.  If one eats enough hot peppers then beans well... the gass will be so vloitile and powerful that gravity will have a fight on it's hands the moment the pepers and beans combine.


serously.
That last pannel is just priceless.  The Abel's expression and the Dan's expression so well done.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Valynth on January 05, 2007, 02:46:33 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on January 05, 2007, 02:29:17 AM
Running's always good, but given Dan's current company, thay might be a somewhat futile task.  :mowtongue

My point exactly, you see once they arrive in Cuba, they'll have to dispatch the corrupt government to get anywhere and-  Do'h, my angelic heritage just loves pop up at the darnest times.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: RJ on January 05, 2007, 03:44:30 AM
My only source of fruit comes from whatever I put in my muffins.

Blueberry muffins, anyone?  >:3


But on a more "serious" note concerning the Cartoonist Choice Awards- YAY DRAMA.

You'd think I'd get enough considering I hang out at /cgl/ so much...
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Netami on January 05, 2007, 03:57:09 AM
What's the point of the choice awards, anyways? It seems almost drama-inducing by design.

The greatest rewards for web-comics, money and self-satisfaction, have nothing to do with this. This is strictly a jury of peers sort of thing...
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Magic on January 05, 2007, 06:16:59 AM
Abel's face is priceless.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Turnsky on January 05, 2007, 06:19:41 AM
the WCCA's is a double edged sword, on one hand, it's a way of showing support for your favorite webcomics and their authors by voting for them, hopefully nominating them for all their hard work.

on the other it's a bit of an ego and drama trip for some who want to be nominated purely to fuel their bloated egos..

kinda like the oscars for webcomics, really, others who deserve at least an honorable mention don't get even that far, some who don't deserve it, get it regardless..

but i digress... back to comic related stuff..

i guess one doesn't need to be psychic when the person's actions can be predicted with a high degree of sarcasm.. heh..

Dan and Abel make the perfect 'odd couple' don't they?  :P
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Stygian on January 05, 2007, 06:43:24 AM
Quote from: Ink on January 05, 2007, 06:16:59 AM
Abel's face is priceless.

I thought his face was priceless anytime...?
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 06:59:42 AM
One has to wonder if Abel is doing it this way because he's got 350 years of experience in emotional manipulation and really knows what he's doing, or whether he's just being a jerk.
I'd like to think it's the former, since Abel seems to have been tasked with Dan's wellbeing and if he can get him to be more at ease with his 'cubi nature, he'll be more accepting of SAIA.

Either way, he's just made it a whole lot easier for Dan to say "but Jyrras said he prefers you..", just so he can wipe the goofy smile off Abel's face.

Sudden thought.. Fa'Lina's just visited Pyroduck to straighten things out.  What if she turns up in Lost Lake to talk to Abel?  Dan would go nuts and it would be a good time for Nitemyst etc to return (except she'd probably kill them all before they knew what was happening).
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Turnsky on January 05, 2007, 07:13:30 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 06:59:42 AM
Abel seems to have been tasked with Dan's wellbeing and if he can get him to be more at ease with his 'cubi nature, he'll be more accepting of SAIA.


just because Abel's been charged with Dan's wellbeing and "basic training" wouldn't mean that abel isn't allowed to mess with Dan's head once in a while. =]
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: ShiningShadow on January 05, 2007, 07:15:36 AM
Quote from: Sid on January 04, 2007, 10:09:20 PM
As funny as the comic is, I think that Abel is focusing a bit too much on the small picture. Kinda hoping that they won't just leave it at that and go moping again...

I like the pic its so  funny. I got the reference *man I'm so old*. Anywho Abel goofy look is so priceless I love it made me crack up when I imitate Abel in that goofy voice. My speculation senses are tingling and I have a feeling this is calm before the storm in the arc. There will be a major battle or a beginning of one I just can't wait when this will finally happens.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 07:25:21 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on January 05, 2007, 07:13:30 AM
Just because Abel's been charged with Dan's wellbeing and "basic training" wouldn't mean that abel isn't allowed to mess with Dan's head once in a while. =]

There's another aspect which I only hinted at.
We don't really know what drives Abel, or what Fa'Lina said when he left the Academy, but he sure didn't like leaving.
It might be that he's mature enough to realise that it's better he leaves eventually even though he couldn't quite bring himself to make the step, but there's also the possibility that he's hoping to return there after his mission is complete.*
If that is the case, messing with Dan's head would likely prolong his stay in the outside world which he would prefer to avoid.  There's also the possibility that he might push Dan too far and cause him to flip out.  If he had some kind of major paranoia attack and fled (a'la The President's Analyst) Fa'lina would go apes__ when Dan doesn't turn up for his monthly visit and it won't take long for Fa'Lina to pin Abel for it.


*Whether Fa'Lina would allow it, we don't know.  Whether Abel knows Fa'Lina wouldn't allow it we don't know either, but she's got him by the short-and-curlies somehow and he'd probably consider a post within SAIA would as a good reward.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Turnsky on January 05, 2007, 07:29:12 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 07:25:21 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on January 05, 2007, 07:13:30 AM
Just because Abel's been charged with Dan's wellbeing and "basic training" wouldn't mean that abel isn't allowed to mess with Dan's head once in a while. =]

There's another aspect which I only hinted at.
We don't really know what drives Abel, or what Fa'Lina said when he left the Academy, but he sure didn't like leaving.
It might be that he's mature enough to realise that it's better he leaves eventually even though he couldn't quite bring himself to make the step, but there's also the possibility that he's hoping to return there after his mission is complete.*
If that is the case, messing with Dan's head would likely prolong his stay in the outside world which he would prefer to avoid.  There's also the possibility that he might push Dan too far and cause him to flip out.. if he had some kind of paranoia attack Fa'lina would go apes__ when Dan doesn't turn up for his monthly visit and it won't take long for Fa'Lina to pin Abel for it.


*Whether Fa'Lina would allow it, we don't know.  Whether Abel knows Fa'Lina wouldn't allow it we don't know either, but she's got him by the short-and-curlies somehow and he'd probably consider a post within SAIA would as a good reward.

hrm, fairly true.. there is the spin that Abel's trying to help Dan to make peace with his Cubi nature in his own way
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Sid on January 05, 2007, 07:56:27 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 06:59:42 AM
Sudden thought.. Fa'Lina's just visited Pyroduck to straighten things out.  What if she turns up in Lost Lake to talk to Abel?  Dan would go nuts and it would be a good time for Nitemyst etc to return (except she'd probably kill them all before they knew what was happening).

That would be kinda priceless... Pyro, Abel and Fa'Lina (Dan dashed off to pout about something) in Lost Lake, the door is kicked open, and the adventurers scream "DEATH TO THE CREATURES!"... >:3
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Brunhidden on January 05, 2007, 08:26:58 AM
i can clearly see that abel is trying to goad dan untill he reaches some kind of revelation, feels so bad about himself he admits his mistakes and tries to change, throws a childlike tantrum, or is angry enough to release abel from his bonds so he can return to the academy.

but somehow i secretly hope that instead dan just goes over the edge and spends a week or two wearing gothy clothes and cowering in his corner of angst known as 'dans room, keep out! no girls allowed! (unless theyre hot)'

QuoteHow about we spend the money on a giant billboard that says "no fat chicks"?
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 09:39:30 AM
Quote from: Brunhidden da Muse on January 05, 2007, 08:26:58 AM
i can clearly see that abel is trying to goad dan until he reaches some kind of revelation, feels so bad about himself he admits his mistakes and tries to change, throws a childlike tantrum, or is angry enough to release abel from his bonds so he can return to the academy.

Abel oversteps the mark:

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/dmfa/wheresdan.png)

**EDIT**
(I did this at 1:1 since it was only supposed to be a quick job, hence the JPEG reduction is more noticeable since I usually work at 2x and scale it down.  I still ended up spending ages on it though.. replacing the office with Lost Lake was the main culprit.)
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Sid on January 05, 2007, 09:47:12 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 09:39:30 AM
Abel oversteps the mark:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/dmfa/wheresdan.png

"All the cool kids were doing it!" :D
(The clean-up softness looks awesome on Fa'Lina, less so on Abel somehow...)

Quote from: Brunhidden da Muse on January 05, 2007, 08:26:58 AM
i can clearly see that abel is trying to goad dan untill he reaches some kind of revelation, feels so bad about himself he admits his mistakes and tries to change, throws a childlike tantrum, or is angry enough to release abel from his bonds so he can return to the academy.

The latter may be hard since this isn't really Abel's call... besides, Abel seems to be protective enough to stay out of his own will by now...
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Alondro on January 05, 2007, 12:51:22 PM
*Charles hmphs*  Dan has every right to blame cubi for everything.  They've been involved in every evil scheme that's gone on!  Why, even now his own mother is planning on exterminating an entire species!  Cubi are ebil to the infinite!  I've never trusted Cubi, and I never will... I can never forgive them for the death of... well, me.

*Charline smirks*  Oh come now.  I always get you a new body, my favorite little dissection specimen.   >:3

*Charles whimpers*  Cubi are ebil...  :<
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Aridas on January 05, 2007, 01:06:37 PM
speaking of which, i'm sure this will get out eventually, and if it goes off without a hitch, Jyrras will be apologizing to Alexsi... for something she won't even know she said.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: superluser on January 05, 2007, 01:08:42 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 06:59:42 AMOne has to wonder if Abel is doing it this way because he's got 350 years of experience in emotional manipulation and really knows what he's doing, or whether he's just being a jerk.

Of course, it doesn't seem like Abel has a very active social life, and the last time that he dealt with people who didn't have telepathic powers was 375 years ago. (i.e. ``I just don't understand why you feel that way.'' [temporarily lets down mind shield] ``OK.  Now I do.'')

He may have few tools to successfully manipulate someone who can't read his mind.

Quote from: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 06:59:42 AM(except she'd probably kill them all before they knew what was happening).

This is why that won't happen.  The only way that I could see that working is if Fa'Lina just trundles the adventurers off without harming them at all.  With muffins.  And no, not blueberry muffins of death.

Quote from: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 07:25:21 AMIt might be that he's mature enough to realise that it's better he leaves eventually even though he couldn't quite bring himself to make the step, but there's also the possibility that he's hoping to return there after his mission is complete.

Fa'Lina's motives are unclear, but if she wanted him out in the real world, she would not have done it this way.  Dan's likely to keep this up for a decade or several.  He's rather stubborn, and his SAIA visits are only once a year (not once a month).

This isn't a journeyman system--the great teachers of `cubi seem to all be at SAIA.  So if Abel is gone from SAIA tutoring Dan, he's wasting his time not preparing for a teaching gig at SAIA and not putting his skills into practice in the real world.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Alan Garou on January 05, 2007, 01:12:38 PM
This comic has led me to several revelations:
1. Abel does a great Pinky impression
2. Dan has severe insecurity issues
3. Insults actually can stall moodiness
4. Jyrras is best off choosing Lorenda

If I think of anything else, I'll add it in another post.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 05, 2007, 01:20:53 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 07:25:21 AM
There's also the possibility that he might push Dan too far and cause him to flip out.  If he had some kind of major paranoia attack and fled (a'la The President's Analyst) Fa'lina would go apes__ when Dan doesn't turn up for his monthly visit and it won't take long for Fa'Lina to pin Abel for it.
That was one month a year (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_592.php).
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on January 05, 2007, 01:20:53 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 05, 2007, 07:25:21 AM
There's also the possibility that he might push Dan too far and cause him to flip out.  If he had some kind of major paranoia attack and fled (a'la The President's Analyst) Fa'lina would go apes__ when Dan doesn't turn up for his monthly visit and it won't take long for Fa'Lina to pin Abel for it.
That was one month a year (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_592.php).

Damn.  That kind of scrubs that one, since it's probably going to be the anniversary of his abduction and anything Abel does to Dan now he'll have a year to get over.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Sunblink on January 05, 2007, 02:07:09 PM
Oh Abel, how your sarcastic mockery makes me smile. Abel is quickly adding reasons as to why he's one of my favorite characters to my list with every strip. XD

I definitely should've seen that sort of fear coming from Dan, though.

~Keaton the Black Jackal
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Dard on January 05, 2007, 04:32:14 PM
All I can think of today's strip is:
Dan should better realize that there is a lot of truth to what Abel says.
Sarcasm or not, I have no idea how Dan could stay in denial about this one.

Of course I realize that the capability of mortals of staying in denial is almost endless, but at some point I would start to lose respect for that individual.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: MT Hazard on January 05, 2007, 04:34:32 PM
What should be remember (And possibly has been mentioned) is that if you had spent 20+ years thinking of yourself as one thing and finding out your another won't definite cause you to blame all your problems on your new found identity. While it may cross Dan's mind that part of his current problems are cubi related the first thing he'd think is 'why does my best friend have such little faith in me?'

Perhaps I'm reading the whole thing wrong and he isn't being forced to grow up quickly after delaying it as much as possible (I don't think most kids should be in a hurry to grow up, but he's an adult now)

Reality is some times painful to face up to, why do you think the entertainment industry and recreation drugs exist?

And this is the second time someone has posted just before me with a apparently simular point of view.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Manawolf on January 05, 2007, 06:41:06 PM
Is that Donation Bar gonna turn into some sort of Fruit of the Loom thing or something?
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 05, 2007, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: Dard on January 05, 2007, 04:32:14 PM
Of course I realize that the capability of mortals of staying in denial is almost endless, but at some point I would start to lose respect for that individual.

... aren't the only folks with respect left for Dan the barmaids he's a friend of?
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Kenji on January 05, 2007, 07:25:32 PM
Quote from: Manawolf on January 05, 2007, 06:41:06 PM
Is that Donation Bar gonna turn into some sort of Fruit of the Loom thing or something?

Perhaps Dan will come in as Peanut Butter.
It's peanut butter jelly time, ya know. o: Mmm grape jelly.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: MaskedRetriever on January 05, 2007, 09:40:29 PM
It's a slot machine!


Yeah, Abel is the Dr. Cox of this comic and that just makes him even tastier.  I mean, a hot, winged bishy-kitty version of Dr. Cox?  It's like someone read my darkest fantasies and made them real!

But anydangways, Dan's moping is understandable, and Abel's behavior is... FAIR.  He's like that.  Fair, but in a way that disguises him as a bastard.

My personal theory on Dan vs Abel vs Fa'lina is that Fa'lina chose to pair up Abel and Dan because they both have much the same problem: they haven't made peace with themselves.  I think it's perhaps telling that Abel still gets thrown curve-balls every now and then, largely because he's not used to being outside SAIA.  Fa'lina means to help both Dan AND Abel get a grip on themselves: Getting Dan to where Abel is now and getting Abel to where most Cubi got a couple hundred years ago  :mwaha
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: ShiningShadow on January 05, 2007, 10:27:50 PM
Endless and ever changing. The possibilities are endless if Dan and Abel to work together as a single unit it will be sometime I hope soon. If the war against the dragons doesn't start it will be terrible and ugly on both sides. But I see they are working together in different aspects but with different attitudes on both fronts.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: MaskedRetriever on January 06, 2007, 01:02:06 PM
Quote from: ShiningShadow on January 05, 2007, 10:27:50 PM
Endless and ever changing. The possibilities are endless if Dan and Abel to work together as a single unit it will be sometime I hope soon. If the war against the dragons doesn't start it will be terrible and ugly on both sides. But I see they are working together in different aspects but with different attitudes on both fronts.

Given the way Destina and Biggs were talking I imagine it'll be a really ~short~ war, like a thermonuclear exchange.   >:3
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Ted Schiller on January 06, 2007, 03:16:57 PM
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_583.php

Considering how Aary was at fifty, Dan is quite mature for a Cubi.  Which probably gives Abel an advantage when he deals with Dan.

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Zedd on January 06, 2007, 04:39:15 PM
Quote from: Ted Schiller on January 06, 2007, 03:16:57 PM
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_583.php

Considering how Aary was at fifty, Dan is quite mature for a Cubi.  Which probably gives Abel an advantage when he deals with Dan.

With regards,
Ted

Nice idea chap...But what about the cubi between her age and Abels? *devilish smirk*
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Manawolf on January 06, 2007, 05:21:39 PM
Long lived races like to take things slow.  Mortals normally live for a hundred years if lucky, so having that mindset gives Dan an upper hand in learning compared to his new colleagues.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Azlan on January 06, 2007, 07:06:10 PM
The long lived races tend to take a slower approach to things, at least as far as fantasy and science fiction, the luxury of living a long time I imagine.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Manawolf on January 06, 2007, 08:49:47 PM
Exactly, they know they have all the time in the world to grow up, reach maturity, and learn the things they'll need to survive in the world.  Most beings don't get that kind of luxury, and thus their education plan is set to a 10-20 year period.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Kibin on January 06, 2007, 09:23:03 PM
Personally, I'd like to learn things as fast as I can anyway. If I for some reason was nearly immortal, I would still learn things at the same speed.

Although... I might spend a lot of time on utterly useless things. Grass growing might be fun, hmmm...
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: superluser on January 06, 2007, 10:58:23 PM
Quote from: Kibin on January 06, 2007, 09:23:03 PMPersonally, I'd like to learn things as fast as I can anyway. If I for some reason was nearly immortal, I would still learn things at the same speed.

Well, you'll learn at the same speed, but is that enough?

(http://www.frontiernet.net/~superluser/speeddebt.jpg)
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Tapewolf on January 07, 2007, 07:37:08 AM
Quote from: superluser on January 06, 2007, 10:58:23 PM
Quote from: Kibin on January 06, 2007, 09:23:03 PMPersonally, I'd like to learn things as fast as I can anyway. If I for some reason was nearly immortal, I would still learn things at the same speed.
Well, you'll learn at the same speed, but is that enough?
[Speedlearn spoof]

Let me guess which episode of The Prisoner you've got to. :P
(And remember children - never make a typo when performing a database query or the server will explode and kill you.)

But yeah, there's a lot of things I'd like to learn which a 'cubi lifespan would make a doddle, but a normal human lifespan makes inconvenient.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Ted Schiller on January 07, 2007, 03:13:57 PM
I'm waiting for Fi to return to Abel.  :boggle  :)

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: ShiningShadow on January 09, 2007, 07:34:25 AM
I will say Dan will surpass everybody including Falina. He could be that olive branch for peace or warmonger. We shall see in later episodes.
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: Kibin on January 09, 2007, 07:37:05 AM
Quote from: ShiningShadow on January 09, 2007, 07:34:25 AM
I will say Dan will surpass everybody including Falina. He could be that olive branch for peace or warmonger. We shall see in later episodes.

You mean like... in several thousand years our time, at how slow comic time is progressing right now?
Title: Re: dirrh I'm dan 1/5/06
Post by: ShiningShadow on January 09, 2007, 12:19:18 PM
I don't know at this pace we should be seeing Dan's grandchildren at this point. Knowing amber she is building the story line up very carefully with each artwork direction. Who knows what is in Amber's mind when she puts the next episode in the computer and put it on the web.