Alright this is a continuation of the locked topic. But we'll set some ground rules that way this topic does not get out of hand again. No bashing, flaming, or making arguments/discussions personal.
Somehow today's thread got extremely out of hand, managed to piss Amber off and is now locked up. Let's try to keep it civilized here.
So continue on with speculation. What do you think Wildy's reaction will be when she finds out Biggs was after Dan? I sense that no matter what happens Wildy will give someone a beatdown.
Probably she'll do more than so. I am not into the specifics, but she will most likely do something that shames him so severely, or damages his authority or sense of safety so much that he never attempts it again. At least, that's how I'd consider doing first, were I in her position. But knowing Biggs that might just give him more reason to spite her and plan to mess with her more, and then it would be much better to liquidate him...
Hm. I would consider carefully before actually doing anything. People do the most hasty and thoughtless things, after all...
(I kept away from the latest thread for obvious reasons. I don't see how TGH would... Ah, nevermind. I won't bother. Now at least we all have some more knowledge of certain things. Though I must support Ninjannihilator in his urge that this be kept civil.)
I think Alexsi speaks for a lot of readers in that last panel. Prehaps thats the point.
On the what wildy will do topic, I say laugh about for a while then use it as possible black mail.
I think Wildy will just laugh. After all, it had been basically her idea (Wildy and Mab had dressed up Dan, if I recall correctly), and if her brother did not realize his mistakes after a few YEARS, that's definitely something to laugh about ;)
...and then she'd give Biggs Dan's number. Just in case... :giggle
that would be funny to see
Biggs: Hello is this Dan?
Dan: Yes, who is this?
Biggs: This is Biggs, could i ask you a question?
Dan: ummm, ok.
Biggs: Whatcha wearing?
Dan:............
Biggs: Hello? Dan you there?
Dan:.............
Quote from: MT Hazard on December 01, 2006, 04:29:44 PMI think Alexsi speaks for a lot of readers in that last panel. Prehaps thats the point.
You know, she seems quite a lot calmer now, since being around Dee.
I wonder...if `cubi feed on emotions, do they actually consume those emotions?
In other words, do these emotions disappear, so that if you have an incubus that feeds on pain, you could put him in the burn ward, and suddenly all the patients start feeling better? Like how Dan loses his headache (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_486.php) when Fa'Lina approaches?
It would give a whole new spin on the `cubi race.
``Every time i cast hadoken, it siphons away some of the love in the universe. I'm not sure how much, but I'm given to understand the divorce rate goes up with each blast.'' -- Black Mage
``Every time i cast hadoken, it siphons away some of the love in the universe. I'm not sure how much, but I'm given to understand the divorce rate goes up with each blast.'' -- Black Mage
That was one of 8BT best strips.
Quote from: superluser on December 01, 2006, 04:39:06 PM
You know, she seems quite a lot calmer now, since being around Dee.
I wonder...if `cubi feed on emotions, do they actually consume those emotions?
In other words, do these emotions disappear, so that if you have an incubus that feeds on pain, you could put him in the burn ward, and suddenly all the patients start feeling better? Like how Dan loses his headache (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_486.php) when Fa'Lina approaches?
Personal theory that has not been verified or proven wrong (if I recall correctly):
Unlike soul-stealing, emotion-feeding is not a vampiristic thing, so Cubi don't take away emotions from anybody. They just absorb the emotions others generate and emit. So nobody loses anything since they just feed on free-floating energy nobody else knows how to use.
So my guess is that Fa'Lina didn't actually absorb Dan's overflow, but rather casted some sort of balancing spell, combined with an emotion filter/shield. The shield spell is quasi-mentioned here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_488.php) and here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_491.php), and she specifically mentions that she cast one on him in this one (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_588.php) (and re-casts it in the following one).
Having a Cubi that actually steals emotions would be VERY interesting, though. *ponders about that one*
Quote from: superluser on December 01, 2006, 04:39:06 PM
I wonder...if `cubi feed on emotions, do they actually consume those emotions?
From what I've seen it seems to be more like the emotions are broadcast, which means in effect they've been
sent out of the person who generated them. If so, absorbing those won't make a jot of difference to the original sender.
On the other hand, if 'cubi can aggressively feed on souls, I postulated in some of my writings that they should be able to reach into a victim and aggressively feed on emotions as well, which
would have an effect.
In my writings, Jakob has eaten people's emotions on at least two occasions, devouring the rage of an incandescent librarian to pacify her (which left her glassy-eyed and confused for a few moments),
eating the wounded Ephrael's pain as an impromptu anaesthetic (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg49993#msg49993) in Gareeku's
Furrae Chronicles RP, and I'm pretty sure there's another instance, but I can't recall it offhand.
For Ephrael, I'm working on the theory that emotions only radiate once they've saturated the mind of the person experiencing them - eating her pain in effect resets it, i.e. it will take a while for it to build up again.
Of course, this theory is purely based on my own thought experiments. I have no idea of they're strictly compatible with Amber's own physics. Having said that, I'd be very, very surprised if 'cubi can't force-drain emotions from their target/prey if they so choose.
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 01, 2006, 04:56:36 PMHaving said that, I'd be very, very surprised if 'cubi can't force-drain emotions from their target/prey if they so choose.
I don't really see how that wouldn't be possible. `Cubi can read their minds and emotions, and eat souls. But they can't go into someone's mind and take their emotions?
Oh, and that would be so much fun. Eat their fury:
Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering creature; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit...meh.
What one can, and what one does are often two different things.
Can a Cubi force-drain an emotion? Yes.
Do they do so? Not unless its a very particular situation.
It's really about cost/return. Emotions, while usable for substenence...are not exactly all that empowering. So to actually go and drain an emotion from their supposed target would cost them more energy than they would get back. I guess kind of like eating celery, you burn more calories than you gain.
In certain situations, it can be useful...but its not always as simple as hitting a switch. If you are facing off against an adventurer with a mindshield, odds are he's also defended against you going in and hitting the calm-button. But inexperienced Cubi have a tendency to start acting like the emotion they absorbed. (so if you gank anger...you suddenly feel really angry)
So yeah, just like a Cubi can project emotions and absorb, they can also directly take. But it isn't as simple as simply standing in a crowded room and catching the vibes like normal absorbtion is.
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 01, 2006, 05:35:28 PMBut inexperienced Cubi have a tendency to start acting like the emotion they absorbed. (so if you gank anger...you suddenly feel really angry)
Which would explain why Dee got more angry as Alexsi got less.
Still, if this is indeed true, I can see Dan getting a little more optimistic about his `cubi heritage.
``Bye, everyone! I'm off volunteering at the children's hospital as an analgesic this weekend!'' :B
Quote from: superluser on December 01, 2006, 05:48:39 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 01, 2006, 05:35:28 PMBut inexperienced Cubi have a tendency to start acting like the emotion they absorbed. (so if you gank anger...you suddenly feel really angry)
Which would explain why Dee got more angry as Alexsi got less.
Destania's probably somewhere to the tune of a thousand years old. I suspect she no longer counts as 'inexperienced' >:3
Oh, and thanks for chiming in, Amber. More detail on 'cubi powers is always good :P
Quote from: superluser on December 01, 2006, 05:48:39 PM
Which would explain why Dee got more angry as Alexsi got less.
Destania is 7,026 years old. I think she long since put inexperienced in the dust. :3
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 01, 2006, 05:59:22 PM
Quote from: superluser on December 01, 2006, 05:48:39 PM
Which would explain why Dee got more angry as Alexsi got less.
Destania is 7,026 years old. I think she long since put inexperienced in the dust. :3
Okays that explains much about teacher...
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 01, 2006, 05:59:22 PM
Quote from: superluser on December 01, 2006, 05:48:39 PM
Which would explain why Dee got more angry as Alexsi got less.
Destania is 7,026 years old. I think she long since put inexperienced in the dust. :3
Well, doesn't that just mean that she wanted to get angry?
If you put 7026 into a calculator and turn it upsidedown you get
g backwards-S O L
IT'S A SIGN!
For all of you who said that taking her glasses off took 20 years off of her, that still leaves her 7006 years old.
...so put those glasses back on! :3
It's Alexsi I'm interested in. She isn't showing much reaction at the moment, but remember that Biggs has single-handedly jeopardised the meeting with the reporters which took months and months to establish. She tried to kill Dan simply because Merlitz bunked off - I somehow doubt she's just going to let the whole thing slide.
she is and adult feline and she knows when to hold her emotions in check. Pulse her mom stopped her form attacking Biggs at least twice that we saw.
Quote from: superluser on December 01, 2006, 06:47:17 PM
For all of you who said that taking her glasses off took 20 years off of her, that still leaves her 7006 years old.
...so put those glasses back on! :3
bwahahahaha :-)
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 01, 2006, 05:59:22 PM
Destania is 7,026 years old.
*empty blink* *gets an idea* *makes a little note* Intriguing...
Quote from: Sid on December 01, 2006, 08:07:12 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 01, 2006, 05:59:22 PM
Destania is 7,026 years old.
*empty blink* *gets an idea* *makes a little note* Intriguing...
i have to say that , that says a lot about the potential for clan revival
Alexsi really needs to Hammer this Mega-ego-inflated Jerk... Biggs just thinks he is so hot that Even Guys will cross-dress to be with him. Biggs is very likely straight, but he has no problem thinking Dan isn't.
And that is all there is to said on that subject....(or all I will say about it)
Wildy made it plain that Everything in Lost Lake was Hers. Biggs is in BIG trouble, Wildy will be using the Large axes on Biggs when she gets there. And Pyro will he or should he fly to Alexsi and insure that she is alright? He can just said that he will scout ahead, and quick flight to Biggs'. It may blow his cover through.
PBH
BTW Why is Dee working for this Jerk?
you bring up a new Angle. what will Destania say when she finds out her daughter is dating a dragon?
Quote from: e_voyager on December 01, 2006, 08:33:34 PM
you bring up a new Angle. what will Destania say when she finds out her daughter is dating a dragon?
And Alexsi knows that she is dating a dragon?
:hug
PBH
not necessarily but when Pyroduck shows up chances are Destania will know him for what he is and then shivers. i don't know id i want to see a cubi protecting her young in a graphic form
This message was about a horribly scarring misspelling. Now that the horrible misspelling is gone, so is this message.
Quote from: superluser on December 01, 2006, 08:52:22 PM
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on December 01, 2006, 08:22:45 PMAlexsi really needs to Hummer this Mega-ego-inflated Jerk...
...Please oh please tell me that's a misspelling for hammer.
I do apologise for the mental image, but it's not like I'm not stuck with it, too.
My apologies, Spell check can't catch everything...... :mowcookie PBH
this is all copmpletely ridiculous, the reason Biggs isn't surprized is because it isn't bigs at all, biggs has already been eaten by pyroduck and it is pyroduck cleverly diguised as biggs thinking naughty thoughts of danielle while possesing the mind of biggs... I heard somwhere that dragons have shape shifting abilities.
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on December 01, 2006, 08:57:32 PM
Quote from: superluser on December 01, 2006, 08:52:22 PM
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on December 01, 2006, 08:22:45 PMAlexsi really needs to Hummer this Mega-ego-inflated Jerk...
...Please oh please tell me that's a misspelling for hammer.
I do apologise for the mental image, but it's not like I'm not stuck with it, too.
My apologies, Spell check can't catch everything...... :mowcookie PBH
.. is it just me, then, who has an image of Alexsi hammering Biggs with a humvee? Wheels flying off in all directions, that sort of thing?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 01, 2006, 10:02:20 PM
.. is it just me, then, who has an image of Alexsi hammering Biggs with a humvee? Wheels flying off in all directions, that sort of thing?
Humvees are very useful when flattening pink haired ferrets.
....
With that hair, Biggs is cuter then Wildy. ¬.¬
LOL :mowmeep :mowmeep
BIggs is cute but His attitude destroy any cuteness effect.
BTW: Alexsi has a very lovely ah dress on... She is looking awfully cute, tooo.
PBH
Quote from: Azlan on December 01, 2006, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 01, 2006, 10:02:20 PM
.. is it just me, then, who has an image of Alexsi hammering Biggs with a humvee? Wheels flying off in all directions, that sort of thing?
Humvees are very useful when flattening pink haired ferrets.
....
With that hair, Biggs is cuter then Wildy. ¬.¬
*makes Alzans hair pink*
ahh pink hair is everywhere! Don't let it get me!!! Wait... what what am i worried about i almost never take off my armor or my helmet.
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 01, 2006, 05:35:28 PM
What one can, and what one does are often two different things.
Can a Cubi force-drain an emotion? Yes.
Do they do so? Not unless its a very particular situation.
It's really about cost/return. Emotions, while usable for substenence...are not exactly all that empowering. So to actually go and drain an emotion from their supposed target would cost them more energy than they would get back. I guess kind of like eating celery, you burn more calories than you gain.
In certain situations, it can be useful...but its not always as simple as hitting a switch. If you are facing off against an adventurer with a mindshield, odds are he's also defended against you going in and hitting the calm-button. But inexperienced Cubi have a tendency to start acting like the emotion they absorbed. (so if you gank anger...you suddenly feel really angry)
So yeah, just like a Cubi can project emotions and absorb, they can also directly take. But it isn't as simple as simply standing in a crowded room and catching the vibes like normal absorbtion is.
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 01, 2006, 05:59:22 PM
Destania is 7,026 years old.
*flags these items of info for the Wiki*
Add the questions asked for those answers. :3 ;)
You know, there's a bit of speculation that I don't think I've seen since Merlitz's party have returned (I'm actually pretty sure I'm not the first):
What if Alexsi gets returned and Merlitz's party attack her?
Most likely, she'll be pissed by the interruption and lay a smackdown with her hammer.
Quote from: Roureem Egas on December 03, 2006, 03:11:52 PMMost likely, she'll be pissed by the interruption and lay a smackdown with her hammer.
Well, it is four on one, and I think three of those four know ranged or magic attacks, while Alexsi seems to just have a bludgeoning melee weapon.
Assuming that Dan and Abel are able to join in, it's probably gonna be close, but there's always the possibility that they could be...delayed.
This is Alexsi, one of the scariest creatures/beings in Furrae! She wouldn't have to actually fight....
On a side note, what term is there to refer to creatures and beings collectively?
Quote from: Izkata on December 03, 2006, 05:41:11 PMThis is Alexsi, one of the scariest creatures/beings in Furrae! She wouldn't have to actually fight....
Yeah, but these guys are probably emotion shielded, and depending on how that works (if, for example, they've locked in their emotions), they might not be able to get frightened.
Besides, they might know Alexsi and figure that if she finds out that they didn't attack her impersonator, the real thing would be a lot scarier.
Who knows maybe there something in Alexsi that we haven't figured out. Is the fact that she gets very scary when she get very angry. I'll bet if those other adventurers will come to Twinks Territory then you see them scared out of there skin literally. She could also mash them for extra measure.