I hope that the lucky medallion is found indeed...and, we learn more and more of our dear Abel...
It would appear that Biggs is more than a little dependent on Destenia as well.
Ah, a valid target for Alexsi.
...What? She's angry about being kidnapped, remember?
Dang, those glasses add like 20 years to her looks. And I'm the only one that thinks something looks a bit lopsided?
Agreed, she looks better without the glasses.
Hmm...Bigs knows Destania's name. Does he know who she really is?
Quote from: Fresnor on November 26, 2006, 10:55:12 PMDang, those glasses add like 20 years to her looks.
Well, she better put them back on, then. :B
Anyways, ``Had a vested interest in?'' Please, oh, please tell me that I have a dirty mind and this is not what Amber means.
So Biggs knows who Destania really is. At least, I think he does. Makes me wonder why Destania was walking around as an impala or gazelle.
Quote from: Wanderer on November 26, 2006, 10:54:52 PM
Ah, a valid target for Alexsi.
...What? She's angry about being kidnapped, remember?
Well, she might have forgotten that. Biggs walking in could remind her of why she was there instead of being at the show-off of the inn. >:3
Im sure all answers will be seen soon
And finally Biggs makes his appearance. In this panel I can picture him having one of those higher-pitched whiny voices. :rolleyes
Anyway I quite like the detail on Destania, down to the little white patches of fur in her ears. I agree with most of ya, the glasses did seem to add age to her appearance. I guess that's a small rule with glasses...further up on the face makes them nerdy, further down makes them librarian-like. My own humble opinion, but meh.
Speaking of colors I'm thinking this is one of those occasions where Biggs didn't see the need to discourage coloring his hair away from the pink tone. :3
Quote from: superluser on November 26, 2006, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: Fresnor on November 26, 2006, 10:55:12 PMDang, those glasses add like 20 years to her looks.
Well, she better put them back on, then. :B
Anyways, ``Had a vested interest in?'' Please, oh, please tell me that I have a dirty mind and this is not what Amber means.
More like 200. :)
Interesting. I was not expecting Biggs' entrance to be like that.
Pink hair. Is it natural? Is it one of the reasons he feels he has to be so tough?
Quote from: Elader Arkon on November 26, 2006, 11:43:23 PM
Interesting. I was not expecting Biggs' entrance to be like that.
Pink hair. Is it natural? Is it one of the reasons he feels he has to be so tough?
Well it looks more maroon than anything but I guess Biggs is nothing but a big child
Quote from: Fresnor on November 26, 2006, 10:55:12 PM
Dang, those glasses add like 20 years to her looks.
Which doesn't mean much to a cubi. :mowmeep
Meh, she just probably did the Gazelle thing to see if Alexi had any idea why she was being kidnapped. Though, she probably knew she'd try and attack her first.
Though that could very well be her way of making sure it was Alexi and not some random wrong target. :)
Heh heh. I think Biggs is going to get a hard, uppercut groin shot by Lexi's foot first, followed by a rapid roundhouse crack to the temple by Alexi's fist, followed by.... lots and lots of PAIN.
*cough*
Maybe I just like violence or something....... :p
Unless you like Ninja Ressurection, you are not a true fan of violence and gore (and should be glad for that).
Quote from: Manawolf on November 27, 2006, 01:46:55 AM
Unless you like Ninja Ressurection, you are not a true fan of violence and gore (and should be glad for that).
Aecas666: *blinks* Wait, what?
Aecas666: That "film" if you can call it that was bloody awful. And it would seem somebody never saw Ichi.
Aecas666: Post that for me would you? >_>
Aecas666: "You've never seen Ichi the Killer then."
:eager Is it just me or does Destania talk about Abel in a moderately disturbing way? :<
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on November 27, 2006, 02:42:37 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on November 27, 2006, 01:46:55 AM
Unless you like Ninja Ressurection, you are not a true fan of violence and gore (and should be glad for that).
Aecas666: *blinks* Wait, what?
Aecas666: That "film" if you can call it that was bloody awful. And it would seem somebody never saw Ichi.
Aecas666: Post that for me would you? >_>
Aecas666: "You've never seen Ichi the Killer then."
You mean it has worse than intestine tentacles?
Dear Mana.
You haven't seen violent until you've witnessed Ichi the Killer.
There are so many moments that make you wince, shriek, cover your mouth, cover your eyes, and leave you curled up in a ball on the floor, weeping.
But it's all ok because Tadanobu Asano is DAMN sexy as Kakihara.
DAMN.
SEXY.
i for one like the mature look but then people tell me i'm strange.
Been meaning to see Ichi the Killer, how is it related to Battle Royale? That's how I first heard of it.
After this comic, I really hope that Destania comes back to Lost Lake... if only to see the look on Abel's face :D
Quote from: Fresnor on November 27, 2006, 03:30:12 AM
Been meaning to see Ichi the Killer, how is it related to Battle Royale? That's how I first heard of it.
Well, for starters, it isn't. Other than they're both Japanese. And violent.
Beat Takeshi is in Battle Royal, and the director of Ichi the Killer's name is Takashi Miike. A lot of people get them confused, for whatever reason.
Takashi Miike is this insane director that prefers cult and b movies to main stream because that means he doesn't have to TRY(more or less his own words). He's amazing like that, and rolls joints in the middle of his own interviews. And looks like a total gangsta. He's my hero.
He averages 10 movies or so a year. I think he's up to 70-something now. They range from "HOLY CRAP THIS MOVIE IS AMAZING WHY DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT IT SOONER but I still feel dirty, I think it was the scene with the dog." to "why did I watch this movie, I will never get those two hours back. D:"
Ichi the Killer falls under the former. It's amazing, it's horrible, it's sexy, it's painful, it's violent, it's disgusting, and it's not for the weak of stomach or nerves.
Best movie of all time, kids.
Quote from: Mock AV on November 27, 2006, 02:46:30 AM
:eager Is it just me or does Destania talk about Abel in a moderately disturbing way? :<
Yay! I'm not the only one!
I had assumed that the gazelle disguise was to conceal her true identity from Biggs, but apparently that isn't the case.
Interesting that she seems to have fostered some kind of relationship with Biggs where he is somehow dependent upon her, yet he's not completely under her control either or she would have known about Alexsi.
Talking of Alexsi, Destania is probably going to have to hold her back from slaughtering him since a lioness vs ferret battle would be pretty short and messy.
Quote from: Sid on November 27, 2006, 03:49:50 AM
After this comic, I really hope that Destania comes back to Lost Lake... if only to see the look on Abel's face :D
He surely knows where she is, though. Abel seems to be pretty much in Fa'lina's confidence and he's read Dan's file too. The 'disaster' line from last strip is a curious one. Is it a disaster if she returns to Lost Lake, a disaster if she leaves Edward in Twink Territories, or a disaster if talks to Dan at all?
Something I forgot to mention before is Destania's reaction to Dan not wanting to go to SAIA. Was she really expecting him to just go, knowing that he'd never see Alexsi, Wildy, Jyrras or his father again?
Quote from: superluser on November 26, 2006, 10:58:35 PM
Anyways, "Had a vested interest in?'' Please, oh, please tell me that I have a dirty mind and this is not what Amber means.
I told you Dan was Abel's love-child :mwaha
Quote from: Mock AV on November 27, 2006, 02:46:30 AM
:eager Is it just me or does Destania talk about Abel in a moderately disturbing way? :<
No. No no no. I absolutely refuse to think that way this time. That can't be what she meant. I'm not listening! *puts his fingers in is ears*
i haven't seen ichi and i NEED TO. i've only seen clips from it.
i know that he (takashi) never went to film school which pisses off a lot of other directors. THEY DONT LIKE THE CONCEPT OF NATURAL UNTRAINED TALENT <3
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 27, 2006, 04:23:12 AM
Quote from: Sid on November 27, 2006, 03:49:50 AM
After this comic, I really hope that Destania comes back to Lost Lake... if only to see the look on Abel's face :D
He surely knows where she is, though. Abel seems to be pretty much in Fa'lina's confidence and he's read Dan's file too. The 'disaster' line from last strip is a curious one. Is it a disaster if she returns to Lost Lake, a disaster if she leaves Edward in Twink Territories, or a disaster if talks to Dan at all?
I think there's a difference between him knowing about Destania and Destania actually coming back. Considering that Abel actually left SAIA with Dan, I don't think he expects Destania to return to Lost Lake so soon (if at all). And if you factor in Fa'Lina's quasi-omniscience, it might be possible that she had planned Abel to meet Destania again for some reason... but that is pretty far out in the field of speculation and fanfics, so I'll stop (for now). :P
QuoteSomething I forgot to mention before is Destania's reaction to Dan not wanting to go to SAIA. Was she really expecting him to just go, knowing that he'd never see Alexsi, Wildy, Jyrras or his father again?
Wondered about that one myself. Then again, Fa'Lina didn't exactly bother to ask Dan for permission. If it hadn't been for the rescue party, Dan might still be in SAIA, who knows? What puzzles me a lot more (not sure if I had mentioned it back then...) is how Destania expected Dan to actually end up in SAIA. Without Aary, Dan would have been the only Cubi in the Lost Lake area at that time, and Fa'Lina didn't exactly seem to know of him before that.
Even though there are two possibilities for this one, come to think of it. Mab might have contacting info, or Destania had given a sort of "In case of your brother going nearly insane due to Cubi powers, break glass" emergency set :P
Quote from: DigitalMan on November 27, 2006, 04:36:15 AM
No. No no no. I absolutely refuse to think that way this time. That can't be what she meant. I'm not listening! *puts his fingers in is ears*
That won't help - you'd better close your eyes too.
* Dan and Abel are both feline 'cubi
* They both have green eyes (eye, in Abel's case)
* Abel was a pupil of his charismatic teacher Destania until she left.
* Destania was pregnant with Dan
before she left SAIA and met Edward
* Abel drives his roommates insane to try and conceal this affair
* Ink found out, hence his taunts about Dan being Edward's son
* Abel agreed to leave SAIA and risked his life in attacking Pyroduck to protect his son.
(Forget about the rumour that Dan has the Ti'fiona tail, that's a lie, do you hear?)
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 27, 2006, 04:23:12 AMQuote from: superluser on November 26, 2006, 10:58:35 PM
Anyways, "Had a vested interest in?'' Please, oh, please tell me that I have a dirty mind and this is not what Amber means.
I told you Dan was Abel's love-child :mwaha
Heh, nice way to put it.
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if it is Amber who has the dirty mind. After all, they spent centuries together at SAIA. I'm sure that after a couple of decades at best the usual teacher-student taboo for intimate relationship becomes rather moot.
Besides: The is a succubi and incubi academy we are talking about here. "vested interests" of that kind are probably part of the curriculum. As long as they are kept professional. Maybe that's just what Abel failed to do.
You know, I really would like to see Destania's reaction if Alexsi repeated her suggestion that Destania should visit them at Lost Lake now that she knows Abel is also there! >:]
Lexsi: "Say, are you sure you don't want to come back?"
Destania: "NO!" :dface
Quote from: Dard on November 27, 2006, 05:02:27 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 27, 2006, 04:23:12 AMI told you Dan was Abel's love-child :mwaha
Heh, nice way to put it.
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if it is Amber who has the dirty mind. After all, they spent centuries together at SAIA. I'm sure that after a couple of decades at best the usual teacher-student taboo for intimate relationship becomes rather moot.
Besides: The is a succubi and incubi academy we are talking about here. "vested interests" of that kind are probably part of the curriculum. As long as they are kept professional. Maybe that's just what Abel failed to do.
Quite. What's more plausible than the love-child theory (and this occurred to me while taunting DigitalMan) is that Abel had the hots for Destania and is
jealous of Edward for doing what he could not (which satisfies the "Abel and Edward have never met" clause, by the way). That would also explain the Ink-Abel interaction. It might then be the case that he's hell-bent on defending Dan as some kind of future-stepchild on the assumption that he can marry Destania when her Being husband dies.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 27, 2006, 04:49:20 AMThat won't help - you'd better close your eyes too.
* Dan and Abel are both feline 'cubi
* They both have green eyes (eye, in Abel's case)
* Abel was a pupil of his charismatic teacher Destania until she left.
* Destania was pregnant with Dan before she left SAIA and met Edward
* Abel drives his roommates insane to try and conceal this affair
* Ink found out, hence his taunts about Dan being Edward's son
* Abel agreed to leave SAIA and risked his life in attacking Pyroduck to protect his son.
(Forget about the rumour that Dan has the Ti'fiona tail, that's a lie, do you hear?)
Ohno Ohno ohno!
Destania has Dan and uses fullmagic to change his appearance to hide the fact that he's not Edward's son. When Abel dispels the transformation magic, you have two Abels.
TWO ABELS. Madness! :eager
Edit: And Abel goes into the fetal position, again.
Hmm, not sure what to make of that last comments by Tapewolf and superluser.
I was just going to point out that Abel does seem to be a connection between Dan, Edward and Dest. However I'm happy enough to wait and find out what the connection is.
I read the recent interview of Amber about DMFA and was going to write something long and complicated about the human mind and why certain fictions will always be with us (anthromorphic creatures and Utopias spring to mind) but maybe another time.
When the thing asking the question is us, we cannot be sure we will ever get the answers we want.
Oh and I'd recommend anyone between 18-30 (ish) to read God's debris by Scott Adams. Just be prepared to rethink life and the universe.
I... am terrified. And I'm betting Amber will feel the same after reading that D:
So now that Destania is no longer with Edward, she's obviously gone back to using her maiden name, since that's what Biggs calls her.
I'm really curious, though. What did Destania change her name to?
P.S.
Quote from: MT Hazard on November 27, 2006, 05:36:08 AMHmm, not sure what to make of that last comments by Tapewolf and superluser.
I'm going for probably wrong, definitely scarring, myself.
P.P.S.
Aary learned about seducing from Destania, so it's not impossible that Destania was head of seduction and that she and Abel...
...Professional relationship probably has a different meaning there.
Quote from: superluser on November 27, 2006, 05:41:42 AM
So now that Destania is no longer with Edward, she's obviously gone back to using her maiden name, since that's what Biggs calls her.
It's curious that Alexsi didn't ask about Edward. Personally I'm assuming that Destania has actually found him, but something is preventing his return. A severe injury, perhaps. Otherwise, if she'd found proof-positive that he was dead or whatever, I'm at a loss as to why she'd remain. If he
is dead we've got interesting questions about the inn - it would presumably belong to her now.
Quote from: MT Hazard on November 27, 2006, 05:36:08 AMHmm, not sure what to make of that last comments by Tapewolf and superluser.
Well the Abel-Destania relationship is something that occurred to me about a year ago. It's almost plausible except that Alexsi and Dan have too many physical similarities which could only have come from their father.
**EDIT**
Gah, that's ABEL-DESTANIA not Dan-Destania.
About the two theories Tapewolf developed: *silliest grin ever* You just made my day :D
Quote from: superluser on November 27, 2006, 05:41:42 AM
Aary learned about seducing from Destania, so it's not impossible that Destania was head of seduction and that she and Abel...
I don't think that Aary learned about seducing from Destania, even though her "Under her teachings I learned everything about the ways of the Succubi" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_294.php) potentially covers a fairly wide field... But Fa'Lina mentioned Destania being the prof in the Pain and Terror department (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_567.php), so I think that the official Seduction prof was somebody else.
Given Destania's old job, a professional relationship gone personal would have a few interesting implications about Abel, though ;)
(Edit to insert another URL)
Quote from: superluser on November 27, 2006, 05:41:42 AM
So now that Destania is no longer with Edward, she's obviously gone back to using her maiden name, since that's what Biggs calls her.
This didn't really hit home until just now. I guess I had been assuming it was her forename (even though I used it has her surname in CJP - better make that more ambigious).
Alexsi
never, ever refers to her as anything other than 'Mom' or 'Destania'. Now why on earth would she do that? Unless she somehow already knows that Edward is dead and has done since before #300, it's just bizarre.
i try not to dwell on the possible negative. still i feel like i forgot to put down the bar on the rollercoaster again.
So TW you are saying that Destinia was pregnant with Abel child hmmmmmmmm. That explains some things but was she pregnant when she first meet Edward? I had a feeling she was and hid it from him till they are married and consumated their marriage and henceforth telling Edward that Destinia is pregnant. I think is all planned out for some reason to protect the future leader of all leaders of the Cubi clan. Resulting a beatdown with Pyro to protect his only son and future leader hmmmmmmmmmm. I think you have something here TW I never looked at it in the other direction as you pointed it out there.
I have to disagree about Ichi the Killer being a great film. It wasn't shocking to me actually, because I've known of things like that being done in reality, though not all at once. It merely disgusts me that someone would actually bother putting such a thing on film, and that so many people flock to it like a dog to its own vomit. It's just the basest actions of humanity brought to the surface. There's no brilliance involved. You just shut off empathy and let rage and hatered take hold. You can't truly imagine what you're capable of until you actually do it. Humans are animals, animals are naturally violent, nature is harsh and brutal. Humans left to themselves will act accordingly. I'm never impressed by any of the glorifications of the worst possible aspects of humanity.
I don't know why being crude and violent is considered clever these days, but I hope it's not a trend that will continue or we're going to end up the the Dark Ages: Part II.
Lord of the Flies.
Nuff said.
I would be surprised if Abel was the father of Dan. Not so surprised that it would leave my mouth open, but I don't think that was it.
But I think it's reasonable to assume that Abel had an affair with Destania. Or he thinks that he had. Maybe just a crush on Destania. But probably everybody as SAIA knows, providing Dr. Ink with a lot of red buttons.
I'll give you one more wild theory: Is it possible to link Destania with the Library Incident somehow? Far fetched, I know, but it leaves a lot of interesting possibilities...
Quote from: Alondro on November 27, 2006, 10:24:40 AM
I have to disagree about Ichi the Killer being a great film.
I also don't think that Ichi is a great film. I have seen it and was disappointed. Not because of the level of violence. I've seen similar violent films that were a lot better. Even from Miike. That was probably why I was so disappointed by it.
While both directors have created very violent movies, I would say that Kitano Takeshi's style is one of slow scenes of intense emotions (mostly despair) followed by sudden explosions of violence whle Miike Takeshi's movies (when he's good) are a rollercoaster ride of insanity. (See the end of DoA for example)
And I don't think you will find me an example of both directors that glorify violence. The violence there is ugly and leaves a bad taste in your mouth and it intended that way. Contrary to most Hollywood directors where the (cleanly) violent hero almost always gets away with what he has done. That's part of the reason why I am not really fond of happy ends in movies anymore.
Dont make me get the hose! Sides note that its funny when I see Biggs acting liek a big baby over his toys...Well now I am sure Des would tell Biggs to think back to the last place he saw it...My mom always tells me...Hell any mother says that...Why is it like its the least place I should susspect
Quote from: Alondro on November 27, 2006, 10:24:40 AM
I have to disagree about Ichi the Killer being a great film. It wasn't shocking to me actually, because I've known of things like that being done in reality, though not all at once. It merely disgusts me that someone would actually bother putting such a thing on film, and that so many people flock to it like a dog to its own vomit. It's just the basest actions of humanity brought to the surface. There's no brilliance involved. You just shut off empathy and let rage and hatered take hold. You can't truly imagine what you're capable of until you actually do it. Humans are animals, animals are naturally violent, nature is harsh and brutal. Humans left to themselves will act accordingly. I'm never impressed by any of the glorifications of the worst possible aspects of humanity.
I don't know why being crude and violent is considered clever these days, but I hope it's not a trend that will continue or we're going to end up the the Dark Ages: Part II.
I don't think Ichi the Killer is clever. I don't think it's brilliant. I don't think Miike was trying to send a message through the film about humanity or trying to make some deep statement. He simply wanted to make the most violent thing he could be allowed to do, and that's just what he did.
I like Ichi the Killer because I enjoy watching those crappy b-horror movies on the scifi channel. I enjoy watching movies that're sometimes so bad, they are good. But that is just me, and I know a lot of people will find what I enjoy to be vulgar and down-right stupid.
Sometimes I enjoy watching movies with substance, yes. But Ichi the Killer(and by and large most of Miike's movies) isn't a movie with a whole lot of substance. You could try to analyze it. There's plenty of moments in the movie that you could try to look into and find deep and hidden meaning. But all and all, you just have to take the movie in face value, and whether or not you enjoy watching a guy stick needles through another man's cheek. Anyone that's looking for something more is only kidding themselves.
Case in point, Ichi the Killer is more violent than Ninja Ressurection. The end.
And yeah, Miike does have more violent and insane movies in his arsenal(Imprint, anyone?) I just recommend Ichi the Killer to anyone that hasn't seen his stuff before, because it's a pretty clear indication of what you're getting into. If you can't handle that, then you probably can't handle much else he's done.
Quote from: Dard on November 27, 2006, 01:03:12 PM
I'll give you one more wild theory: Is it possible to link Destania with the Library Incident somehow? Far fetched, I know, but it leaves a lot of interesting possibilities...
I doubt we're going to learn what it was. Sometimes jokes work better if they just provide a small glimpse of it and leave the rest to your imagination...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 27, 2006, 10:34:27 AM
Lord of the Flies.
Nuff said.
Lord of the Flies-size Fries?
~~
When thinking of the 'vested', think along the lines of 'invested'. Destania (is it really that? My brain has been saying Destiana..) thought he had potential, perhaps unlike other students, and wanted to help him acquire/unlock that potential. Whether or not she did, however, is another matter entirely.
A quick peek in the dictionary was rather undecisive, however. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vested)[/u]
~~
`s it just me, or does Destania look kin'a cute with the glasses on?
Quote from: Sid on November 27, 2006, 05:59:31 AMQuote from: superluser on November 27, 2006, 05:41:42 AM
Aary learned about seducing from Destania, so it's not impossible that Destania was head of seduction and that she and Abel...
But Fa'Lina mentioned Destania being the prof in the Pain and Terror department (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_567.php), so I think that the official Seduction prof was somebody else.
In the same strip, Fa'Lina mentions that Destania came up with the ``special incantation ploy,'' so she probably was doing some seduction lessons at some point.
Observations:
Destania and Fa'Lina don't seem to get on very well. Otherwise, she would have informed Fa'Lina about Dan, and probably not left SAIA in the first place.
Also, vested does indeed mean what Sheridan says, but the fact that she hesitates to find the right words, takes her glasses off and smiles makes it seem rather...yeah.
Speculation:
If Abel is Dan's father, it could have happened like this. Destania is forced to leave by Fa'Lina, possibly because of Abel/Destania, or possibly not. Fa'Lina may herself have mauled Destania, and claimed that she was away ``on assignment.'' In any case, Destania gets mauled and figures that she's done for. The attacker is going to find her eventually and so when she finds Edward, she sees an opportunity to dump the kid on a non-doomed soul. And then the full magic transformation to keep Edward from figuring out that the kid's not his.
Oh, and before I go, two quips that I thought of as I was heading out the door:
- Gives new meaning to sleeping your way to the head of the class.
- Amber, I can deal with Abel being Dan's dad, but please, oh, please no Star Wars references!
(oh, I'm gonna underflow my karma with this)
Okay, no more of this idiotic "Abel is Dan's father" ****. Honestly, you people are just trying to give the lemon writers fodder.
I wonder how this will play out in the comming confrontation between Biggs and the rescue party. Would Destania help Biggs or join Mab in trying to make everyone stop fighting so they could talk things out over a cake. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_293.php)
Probably the later in some form but it's still intresting to see how Biggs will react when he realises that he might have lost one of his closest... allies.
Quote from: Manawolf on November 27, 2006, 02:59:52 PM
Okay, no more of this idiotic "Abel is Dan's father" ****. Honestly, you people are just trying to give the lemon writers fodder.
At the moment it's the only thing preventing the thread from sliding into a discussion about some strange and bloodthirsty film, so I think it deserves to continue on that merit alone >:3
Besides it's fun to see who's gullible enough to believe it... >:-)
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 27, 2006, 03:40:23 PMAt the moment it's the only thing preventing the thread from sliding into a discussion about some strange and bloodthirsty film, so I think it deserves to continue on that merit alone >:3
I dunno. For me the only thing that's good about that speculation is that Amber might decide not to use that plot device and rather use my kneecaps as hockey pucks. Fair trade, in my opinion.
We could make it about speculation about Destania's married name. I notice that all `cubi seem to have only one name. Fa'Lina, Aaryana, Abel, Destania. Presumably, she wouldn't have changed her one name to Ti'Fiona. And clearly she changed it, since Dan wouldn't have forgotten the name that non-kin called his mom.
I'm going on the assumption that this is whatever the inverse of dramatic irony is--that is, the characters all know the answer, but the audience does not. Given that, the name is probably one that we've already heard, otherwise what would be the point of covering it up?
What one-word names do we know?
Quote from: superluser
Aary learned about seducing from Destania, so it's not impossible that Destania was head of seduction and that she and Abel...
...Professional relationship probably has a different meaning there.
It would be more likely that they had a thing, and then she left him for Edward.
That is a simpler explanation, so I invoke Occams Razor.
Quote from: superluser on November 27, 2006, 04:25:49 PM
I notice that all 'cubi seem to have only one name. Fa'Lina, Aaryana, Abel, Destania.
Not Abel, remember... Abel Dimitri Rewanz. Of course like Daniel Ti'fiona he thought he was a Being, so we don't know for sure.
One possibility is that they take their clan name, e.g. 'Destania Cyra'...
Or who knows. maybe they (optionally) abandon their last names as some sort of weirdo cubi tradition. Or by a clan tradition.
Off topic for a minute: While I was searching for confirmation of the name thing, (to myself, mostly..) I looked at Merlitz's profile, and i'm not sure why there was all that speculation over Abel screwing up the merlitz disguise in the first place, because of these three facts:
1. The Merl playing with fire in the profile pic has nothing else special about him.
2. The fun facts state Merl's eye color goes orange when he casts a fire spell
3. His flamewings only appear when he's supermerrygoroundpissedoff.
So the only thing that would give him away soonest-to-now would be doing fire magic around ANYONE with advance knowledge of the eye thing. I'm not sure that group of characters (literally and figuratively) are THAT observant... Are they?
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 27, 2006, 04:32:59 PMNot Abel, remember... Abel Dimitri Rewanz. Of course like Daniel Ti'fiona he thought he was a Being, so we don't know for sure.
I meant to leave him out, for exactly the reasons that you stated, but the fact that he doesn't have a last name listed in the cast page convinced me that he changed it.
...waiiiit. One of Abel's nicknames is Abba.... D:
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 27, 2006, 04:32:59 PMOne possibility is that they take their clan name, e.g. 'Destania Cyra'...
Which would make her married name...Destania Ti'Fiona? Ti'Fiona Cyra? Edward Cyra?
I'm also trying to figure out a way to shorten Destania. Desi would be my choice, but that's a man's name. Desti?
Maybe Des/Dess?
This is probably the most depressing speculation thread on DMFA yet.
Well I'm positive that nothing sexual happened between Abel and Destina
I'm also sure Ed is alive some where and Destinahasn't changed her name (yes dan forgot her name but come on your mother is always Mom first the fact that other people call them something else is an afterthought, plus Dan hasn't exactly shown he's got the best track record in the brain department)
The thing that struck me was the relationship between Biggs and Destina.
It seems to fall into the mothering sort of relationship (Mom where are my shoes, have you seem my luky red cap?) Or the bumbling boyfreind role (honey have you seen my blue tie?) But that one doesn't seem to fit due to Alexi/ biggs marriag, plus Despite being a succubus destina doesn't seem to be the type to fool around (and as I've said I'm Sure Ed is still in the picture)
I thought maybe they fell into the boss with secretary that actualy rins the show but the implieds tone doesn't seem to fit that scene.
Her 'new life' had a new name that wasn't Destania... we don't know what it was, but it doesn't really matter. 'Mrs. Ti'Fiona'?
I don't think it's plausible that Dan wouldn't know the name she went by when she was living with him... sooner or later, someone's going to refer to you by your name. Or, you know, the mail will be addressed to you by name, or something.
Apparently, working for Biggs is more like her 'old life', so she's gone back to her old name? Or maybe he insists on calling her that to annoy her. >:3
Quote from: terrycloth on November 27, 2006, 06:53:23 PM
Her 'new life' had a new name that wasn't Destania... we don't know what it was, but it doesn't really matter. 'Mrs. Ti'Fiona'?
That's my guess. I still don't understand why Alexsi calls her Destania, though.
Quote from: ITOS on November 27, 2006, 03:01:36 PM
I wonder how this will play out in the comming confrontation between Biggs and the rescue party. Would Destania help Biggs or join Mab in trying to make everyone stop fighting so they could talk things out over a cake. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_293.php)
Probably Wildy will just give him an 'indepth reminder' as to what happens when he doesn't stay outta her turf. Of coruse, being a family affair, why would Destania get in the way!
I'm not saying he didn't know her name
I'm just saying it's not how he thinks of her... she's always mom in his mind. I mean he did say the name seemed familer
What is all this about old and new lives?
I'm thinking that if Destania wants to find Edward, her maiden name might not be the best one to go under.
On the other hand, if she chose something common, it might be harder to find her.
Of course, another factor is--would Biggs be more likely to hire Amelia Milquetoast or Destania, succubus of the Cyra clan, professor emerita of Pain and Terror?
Quote from: thegayhare on November 27, 2006, 05:33:41 PMThe thing that struck me was the relationship between Biggs and Destina.
It seems to fall into the mothering sort of relationship (Mom where are my shoes, have you seem my luky red cap?) Or the bumbling boyfreind role (honey have you seen my blue tie?) But that one doesn't seem to fit due to Alexi/ biggs marriag, plus Despite being a succubus destina doesn't seem to be the type to fool around (and as I've said I'm Sure Ed is still in the picture)
I'm not (yet) willing to say that Destania wouldn't fool around. She's already shown a prediliction to doing things that most of us would consider at least semi-evil.
I would say that the relationship seems to be more of the Homer and Marge type (``Marge! There's a spider near my car keys!'')
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 27, 2006, 07:14:10 PMWhat is all this about old and new lives?
``Destania...such a foreign name. The name of a succubus and the name of a life that is now long since over. I can't go back now...So I guess I start over and a new life...starting with these little hands (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_299.php).''
P.S. I pity the foo that messes with Mrs. Ti...'Fiona.
I see that now, but I don't quite see how it fits all these other things into it...
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 27, 2006, 08:33:13 PMI see that now, but I don't quite see how it fits all these other things into it...
Well, paternity of Dan and gory films aside, we are discussing Destania's name. Destania is her maiden name (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_296.php), so presumably she changed it because it reminded her of her ``old life,'' which she had left behind.
The facts that she says as much and that Dan would not have forgotten his mother's name (bonus points for the fact that Alexsi's a stepchild, and from time to time would probably refer to Destania by name and not by title) indicate that, at least when she left, she was not going by that name.
So what did it change to?
As for why Alexsi uses Destania and not her real name, I'm trying to remember when she used it. If she used it with Aaryana, that's because that's the name that she knew her by. In 306, Aary's probably still around, so that makes sense.
I'm still looking, so we'll see.
Edit: Done looking. Can't find any other places where Alexsi refers to Destania.
I did, however, notice that while Dan knows that Azlan has a wife (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_473.php), he doesn't necessarily know her name.
And since we've never seen Neni...
Quote from: Fresnor on November 26, 2006, 10:55:12 PM
And I'm the only one that thinks something looks a bit lopsided?
...If you're refering to what I think you are, it's just perspective. She's leaning slightly, which makes one of them slightly higher than the other.
Quote from: Aleolus on November 27, 2006, 10:26:18 PM
Quote from: Fresnor on November 26, 2006, 10:55:12 PM
And I'm the only one that thinks something looks a bit lopsided?
...If you're refering to what I think you are
Huh? I just checked the rules, and I don't think we need to be this circumspect. The board's rated PG to Fa-Teen, and so long as we're not using crude dysphemisms, it should be OK...right?
Somewhere, Eve Ensler is crying.
*Charles sneaks in* Boo-behs... *sneaks out* :mowninja
"Say Dan, isn't that your mom right over there?"
"Very funny, Wildy."
"No! Really!"
"Huh?! MOM!?"
"Hi Danny!"
Heeeheee. Well now this explains that.
I'm REALLY behind in all this forum...ness...ness. ^^;
I predict a lioness 'Ninja' attack and an attempt on Biggs life in the near future.
Me personally I find it intresting that Destania is working for Biggs. I know she's looking for her hubby but working for him and being in a way his securtary is just weird for my taste.
Not to mention Biggs should know of Dan's escapades and the fact that Alexsi is Dan's sister.
It's a shame Biggs didn't figure out who that leggy 'gal' was that knocked him through a wall... I'm sure he would attempt to stay away from the Ta'Fana family from that encounter.
Still... I wanna see Alexsi make a cemetary out of Twinx territories.
I don't see why not. I'd figure working for the leader would be the highest "ranking" job there is in your region... at least in furrae.
I think Des has two agenda's first to find her husband and second to keep Biggs busy not knowing what Des is up to. I think everything she is doing is looking for her husband Edward hence the deception and playing secretary to Biggs. She's doing this and Biggs not knowing what part of the brain he is using today hasn't have a clue about it.
Why would biggs care? ...... Exactly. He doesn't care.