Well now, that's demented...
*checks, sees no other topic* >.>;
Nice and on time too..
*still can't believe he made a topic at all, let alone one for the comic* Fear me, for I am ninja!
But on topic, it looks like Devin's past might be just a little more screwed up than average, wouldn't you say? There are certain conditions where one must say, "Alright, you're allowed to be a jerk."
Woo... crazy eyes...
And that folks, is what we call the Crazy eyes.
Of course, that term is past it's Expiration date, but there are a lot of other Sick things I could have said. Fortunately, having a new Abel's story is Nursing my mental health. Actually it's Burning up with ideas about this comic. Hey, I bet Devin's mom had a wicked sense of humor, she probably Slayed them up at the abortion clinic.
Has her relatives arrived yet?
Have her relatives arrived yet?
The latter sounds right, but maybe it isn't. The English language is funny like that.
:erk If we were speaking about a real person Jim would certainly be awarded "Most insensitive asshole."
But she's not real, so you're lucky :B
EDIT: And you are completely accurate Natami; grammar dictates that it should be "have." Considering the same error was on the standardized writing test I just took, I'm surprised anyone caught it.
Bigods- poor Devin. :cry:
On one hand, I must congratulate Amber on this. The raw emotion is wonderfully captured, and I'll have to admit that its intensity somewhat scared me a little.
Which leads me on to my next point- Amber, I hope you're not inspired by actual events :dface
What's more frightening is his mother's remark of there being 'others'. Jeebus krispies, I'm creeped out.
(That being said, and I know this is horrible of me, is anyone else seeing this lead... somewhere a bit less PG?)
Mmh. Nice.
So Devin's mother was a psycho? That would mess him up pretty good.
So, how many others were there? Chances are that the father is involved somehow with the decision to kill the others, but how?
However, the real question, is not why she killed the others, but of why she she did not kill him. What made him different from the rest, that she didn't try to kill him?
Regarding grammer: Both are correct: "Her relatives" can be seen as plural, or as a singular group.
Ouch.
But I still wonder if it's the father's fault that Devin's mom went crazy or if she always has been like that.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on October 31, 2006, 04:33:32 AM
Regarding grammer: Both are correct: "Her relatives" can be seen as plural, or as a singular group.
...my intuition somehow doubts the "singular group" thesis. *flips open his "Practical English Usage" book*
The normal structure for such groups is "singular noun + singular/plural verb" (British English allows both, depending on context; American English normally uses the singular verb), like "the team has won".
A plural noun being used with singular verbs usually happens when you mean things like "five tons of metal is a lot", "two and two is four", "more than one person is happy", "one of them is happy", "the gin and tonic costs too much", "The United States is...".
I never heard of "the relatives has". The word "relatives" is plural, so it should get a plural verb. So it's either "her relative has" or "her relatives have" (or "one of her relatives has").
Of course, that's my intuition and two hastily checked sections of a book. If you got some proof that "relatives" is a singular group like "team" or "family", please show me. English isn't my first language, so it's possible that I'm simply overlooking something.
On-topic... wow. That's pretty messed up. Devin's mother killed her other children? His father left... because Devin existed? Stuff like that really messes up your childhood. X_x
The tricky thing about singular groups is when you have something like "Six members of his family", or even worse, "Most of his family". I believe the first is plural, and the second is singular. I'm not sure, though.
Maybe it's canadian english.
Also, Devin's mom is one crazy sick b*****. Killing your own kids? Does furrae have a hell?
*remembers something, and points to http://pholph.com/index_a.php?Strip=365 just because*
And regarding the point of "relatives", I'll give an example of them being used as a group:
"Has her relatives arrived?" (as opposed to "Have her relatives arrived?")
"One of her relatives has arrived." (as opposed to "One relative has arrived")
The more I see Devin's past I kinds reminds of my past *not exactly the same* Anywho that's my past. Right now Devin as a kid should not went through this but there's something there between his mother and father something that made her cracked under the pressure of killing her children time and time again.
I think it's the mom guilty conscience got to her and the truth came out that way. I'm begining to understand Devin's characteristics and the way he emotionally handle things in life. I feel sorry for him but I think he should examine himself more to deal with these things if he has already done it. Man the raw emotion was so cool i love it like my spanish soaps.
Quote from: Vidar on October 31, 2006, 06:31:04 AM
Maybe it's canadian english.
Also, Devin's mom is one crazy sick b*****. Killing your own kids? Does furrae have a hell?
*coughs and points to the "Jack" comic* Mmmmmaybe.
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Yeah, that would be a fairly damaging to a kid. Also, her reference to the "others"...brrr.
*"Ninjas" DigitalMan from the darkness*
SURPRISE BUTTSECKS?!
Anyhow, the story of my life. What really disturbs me though is the "I should have killed you like the others!" statement. True, I do find all of it good in a way. But there are certain things... too lowly to be allowed.
A) Oftentimes when I'm typing for certain characters, I type what I talk...which doesn't always equate to proper perfect English. Which is why words like Dunno, Couldya, and such will pop in from time to time.
B) I'm going to club Dave Hopkins in the knees. Then steal his wallet....and possibly his wife. Look for it next Conifur as a panel event.
*Charles erf* She prolly ate her other children! I have suspicions... :shifty *looks at Charline* It wouldn't be the first time I've heard of such things!
*Charline growls* That wasn't my fault! He triple dog dared me! I couldn't just let something like that go! Anyway, I'm sure Devin's mother had a perfectly rational explanation in mind... until she died. :3
*runs over to Devin...hugs him...ninjas away*
Poor Devin ;-; It's not really his fault his mom was a whackjob.
Yeah, the referance to "others" creeped me out o_o Craaaazyyyy
Wow. That'd screw you up good. Devin's a justified ass.
Quote from: Amber Panyko on October 31, 2006, 07:36:09 AM
B) I'm going to club Dave Hopkins in the knees. Then steal his wallet....and possibly his wife. Look for it next Conifur as a panel event.
*makes note to go to Conifur*
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 31, 2006, 07:53:50 AM
Wow. That'd screw you up good. Devin's a justified ass.
... yet still an ass. Unmitigated, even.
Quote from: DigitalMan on October 31, 2006, 03:28:34 AM
:erk If we were speaking about a real person Jim would certainly be awarded "Most insensitive asshole."
But she's not real, so you're lucky :B
EDIT: And you are completely accurate Natami; grammar dictates that it should be "have." Considering the same error was on the standardized writing test I just took, I'm surprised anyone caught it.
The first thing I did when I clicked on this topic was search for the word 'Has' to see if anyone else had pointed it out yet.
Anyway, that's awful. No wonder it affected Devin so much.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 31, 2006, 08:25:31 AM
... yet still an ass. Unmitigated, even.
In his school days he was an ass, no doubt about it. However, it looks as if he has grown up now... mostly. What he has done to Abel since the funeral has been silly pranks really, they only seem bad because of Abels memories.
Devon should see that Abel is scared silly of him, so he shouldn't have done even the pranks. Still, better the prankster than the previous bully.
:erk wow that is harsh .. something like that would indeed mess you up.
.. an extra nice evil touch with "the others" :mwaha
As for the grammer/spelling police ..
*tosses some random punctuation and miss-spelled words in a pit and watches chaos ensue*
Spoken Grammar if often ignored by the majority of people, that makes this strip more realistic in my opinion. The thing I picked up on was Devin saying "Your crushing me" I would imagine a child would be more likely to say "your hurting me". brilliant atmoshere. Would be devastating for a child to know that his mother didn't love him and his father left because he was born. Plus the dead siblings bit,very creepy. Also he is carrying conflicting images of her in his head, which of course would cause further problems. It could be she did care for him a bit but not enough to override the hate she had for him as he 'caused' her husband to leave.It could also be the husband that caused the killing, one way or another.
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 31, 2006, 04:29:24 AM
So Devin's mother was a psycho? That would mess him up pretty good.
Feverish? Hmmm. If it weren't for the fact Devin seems healthy enough, I'd blame it on that lovely three letter acronym - STD.
As for the 'others'... abortion - one way or another - is my guess.
The more I look at that page the more frightened and creeped out I am... It's the kind of thing that sends a chill down your spine. Which is good for Amber, bad for Devin :dface
Once again this all feels like Jack territory, especially when you consider it's halloween. A most appropriate place to be.
Quote from: MT Hazard on October 31, 2006, 10:02:01 AM
Spoken Grammar if often ignored by the majority of people, that makes this strip more realistic in my opinion. The thing I picked up on was Devin saying "Your crushing me" I would imagine a child would be more likely to say "your hurting me". brilliant atmoshere.
Uhm, that'd be (you're = you are) in both cases, not (your), which indicates possession: That is (your) club. vs (You're) going to get clubbed. :3
Quote from: Manawolf on October 31, 2006, 12:17:00 PM
Once again this all feels like Jack territory, especially when you consider it's halloween. A most appropriate place to be.
Though somewhat a step off-topic, I agree....
Also...Dang, If my mother had said such things I would be running from the spot, crying my bloody head off!
Quote from: KarlOmega1 on October 31, 2006, 01:41:30 PM
Also...Dang, If my mother had said such things I would be running from the spot, crying my bloody head off!
Bah, I'd just kick my mom in the face. But that's now, as opposed to at Devin's age... How old is he there, anyways?
Some people just shouldn't be parents. In a store once I heard a mother tell her kid (a boy of about six) that she should have had the hospital throw him away and kept the afterbirth. After all these years that one still rates high on my "why aren't I allowed to slap people who really need it?" meter.
I knew this comic was gonna be darker than -anything- in DMFA but...this...is the most depressing webcomic ever. :disbelief
Quote from: LigerJet on October 31, 2006, 03:32:46 PM
I knew this comic was gonna be darker than -anything- in DMFA but...this...is the most depressing webcomic ever. :disbelief
Which, again, proves that Amber is capable of being serious. Which is really the most shocking part :dface And it shows that she can convey emotions expertly. Depressing, perhaps; art, definitely.
That sounds so much like brown-nosing... hmm...
Oh, I agree, it's great, excellent art. I just wanted to reply with a simple message.
Quote from: LigerJet on October 31, 2006, 03:32:46 PM
I knew this comic was gonna be darker than -anything- in DMFA but...this...is the most depressing webcomic ever. :disbelief
I've seen worse from Hopkins, IMHO - that's why I don't read Jack.
I prefer it dark actually, but I'm not sure I'd be too happy if it was like this for an extended period of time.
Quote from: DigitalMan on October 31, 2006, 03:36:21 PM
Which, again, proves that Amber is capable of being serious.
That and http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_VDaylast.php
It's fun to see seriousness sometimes.
"...should have killed you like the others..." I don't think anyone's said this (in this thread) yet...but could his mom be a creature (not a being)? I always assumed she was a being, but the comment might suggest otherwise. :/
This was actually a very serious comic but when I read "you fucking bastard" :giggle; I really couldn't stop laughing. I saw that one coming a mile away. So now it seems like Devin had a jealousy complex. Can't wait until we find out on Saturday :eager.
Quote from: LigerJet on October 31, 2006, 03:32:46 PM
I knew this comic was gonna be darker than -anything- in DMFA but...this...is the most depressing webcomic ever. :disbelief
No, this: http://deo.comicgenesis.com/d/20020925.html is the most depressing comic ever.
Well, the series. Not that one strip in particular.
(Also, 'one of her relatives' is singular because the noun is 'one' and 'of her relatives' is a prepositional phrase... 'her relatives' are plural because the noun is 'relatives')
('a lot of things' are exceptions to the rule, though -- like, apparently, 'a lot of' is an adjective now. Go figure.)
Quote from: terrycloth on October 31, 2006, 04:16:30 PM
Quote from: LigerJet on October 31, 2006, 03:32:46 PM
I knew this comic was gonna be darker than -anything- in DMFA but...this...is the most depressing webcomic ever. :disbelief
No, this: http://deo.comicgenesis.com/d/20020925.html is the most depressing comic ever.
Well, the series. Not that one strip in particular.
(Also, 'one of her relatives' is singular because the noun is 'one' and 'of her relatives' is a prepositional phrase... 'her relatives' are plural because the noun is 'relatives')
('a lot of things' are exceptions to the rule, though -- like, apparently, 'a lot of' is an adjective now. Go figure.)
Okay, so it's the most depressing comic I've ever read.
Is that the nurse from the last comic holding Devin? Did she lose her hat?
This leads to interesting interpretation - Devin's father left upon first seeing him as a baby, and his mother went to her grave cursing his existance for apparently driving her husband away. Perhaps Devin is jealous of Abel, whose parents loved him despite what would have been major flaws to his own. If he is, it's a good example of the saying "It is easy to despise what we cannot have."
How could that be, when Devin doesn't (well, not evidenced yet) KNOW that for sure? he'd have to pick on EVERYONE with that reasoning.
let's keep in mind amber has drawn more evil things in the past
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/GabrielsThoughts/dantheman2.jpg)
It being halloween I plan on using my psychic powers on the all powerfull CRT to delve in to the spirt world and come up with baseless assumptions... David is angry at Rose because she spent the money that he earned telemarketing intended for use for his medical care at the dollar store, and she didn't even buy food...no wait wrong David, Wrong Universe... and Rose is pregers... I'm concentraiting... Amber Williams will remain happily married for the forseeable furture unless something bad happens...darn, still Wrong universe, but at least I'm closer to the source....Devin will 'not' admit his undying love for Abel in a sonnet, yes I can see it clearly now Devin is not gay, and he does not have a thing for Abel other than a rivalry complex...Xanver is not entirely out of the picture, there could be more trouble ahead. I wouldn't put it past Xander to show up at the last minute and make a complete ass of himself...wait there's more ... I see, I see, Merlitz with an angry expession on his face, and Danielle having trouble taking a leak standing up cuase he drank too much.
Darn the psychic visions are fading...and I have apperently made an ass out of myself.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 31, 2006, 10:06:51 PM
How could that be, when Devin doesn't (well, not evidenced yet) KNOW that for sure? he'd have to pick on EVERYONE with that reasoning.
Well, the gap is very large in Abel's case. Abel, in Devin's eyes, may very well just be a freakish boy with wings who still gets full love and support by his parents. On the other hand, Devin is (from what we see) completely normal, but his family fell apart completely simply because he exists. That's a very sharp contrast he might pick on.
All I can say I wanna give Devin a big freaking hug
Quote from: Sid on October 31, 2006, 10:19:14 PM
Well, the gap is very large in Abel's case. Abel, in Devin's eyes, may very well just be a freakish boy with wings who still gets full love and support by his parents. On the other hand, Devin is (from what we see) completely normal, but his family fell apart completely simply because he exists. That's a very sharp contrast he might pick on.
I'm pretty sure someone has already said that...
Quote from: Sid on October 31, 2006, 10:19:14 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 31, 2006, 10:06:51 PM
How could that be, when Devin doesn't (well, not evidenced yet) KNOW that for sure? he'd have to pick on EVERYONE with that reasoning.
Well, the gap is very large in Abel's case. Abel, in Devin's eyes, may very well just be a freakish boy with wings who still gets full love and support by his parents. On the other hand, Devin is (from what we see) completely normal, but his family fell apart completely simply because he exists. That's a very sharp contrast he might pick on.
That'd be assuming anyone with wings is considered a freak, and that's a pretty big assumption. I think even 300 years ago people are race-aware, that PARENTS would tend to be the same as their children, and not be considered a freak to their own mother and father >_>
Quote from: Stygian on October 31, 2006, 10:34:19 PM
Quote from: Sid on October 31, 2006, 10:19:14 PM
Well, the gap is very large in Abel's case. Abel, in Devin's eyes, may very well just be a freakish boy with wings who still gets full love and support by his parents. On the other hand, Devin is (from what we see) completely normal, but his family fell apart completely simply because he exists. That's a very sharp contrast he might pick on.
I'm pretty sure someone has already said that...
I'm pretty sure tons of things have been said already. I had just replied to another post to try to explain why Devin chose Abel to pick on; but thanks for the overly constructive comment, your post really contributed to this thread.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 31, 2006, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: Sid on October 31, 2006, 10:19:14 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 31, 2006, 10:06:51 PM
How could that be, when Devin doesn't (well, not evidenced yet) KNOW that for sure? he'd have to pick on EVERYONE with that reasoning.
Well, the gap is very large in Abel's case. Abel, in Devin's eyes, may very well just be a freakish boy with wings who still gets full love and support by his parents. On the other hand, Devin is (from what we see) completely normal, but his family fell apart completely simply because he exists. That's a very sharp contrast he might pick on.
That'd be assuming anyone with wings is considered a freak, and that's a pretty big assumption. I think even 300 years ago people are race-aware, that PARENTS would tend to be the same as their children, and not be considered a freak to their own mother and father >_>
Two things wrong here.
1) Please notice the "Abel,
in Devin's eyes, may very well just be a freakish boy with wings" bit. This is purely about how Devin sees the world, not about what Abel's parents think.
2) The start of Abel's Story kinda shows that kids with wings are NOT overly common. There's the parents' reaction (since both Cid and May DON'T have wings, a winged child is "not 100% normal", to put it nicely), there is the headmistress, there is Devin, there is Cindy's death (which may be related to her not being "normal"), and possibly more that I forgot again. The family basically had to move out of town to live a halfway normal life, so my assumption is not THAT big, I think.
I think in Devin's case he's the Lex Luthor and Abel is Clark or something to that. I think is the startling contrast of both of them growing up with the wings and parents how things goes from one end to the other end. Right now I should give Devin a big Hug and tell him your are special and the love is always there by those who give it to you unconditionally.
There's one thing people seem to have missed in this comic... The fact that one of the nurses (the one that is holding Devin) is refering Devins mom as: "m'lady" (my lady) which tells me that Devins mom is some form of noble. Also, in the previous one she appears to be wharing something that a Midevil lady (as in lord/lady) would have on.
Maby this is just coincedence or some term used at the time, but it seems interesting to me.
Quote from: Drake Manaweilder on November 01, 2006, 03:02:13 PM
There's one thing people seem to have missed in this comic... The fact that one of the nurses (the one that is holding Devin) is refering Devins mom as: "m'lady" (my lady) which tells me that Devins mom is some form of noble.
Quite right. I noticed that at once and promptly forgot about it :P
What I can't fathom is when Ink said that if the strip was in colour we'd have recognised the parents immediately. Since the father is wholly obscured, it suggests he is referring to the mother. But I can't think of any nobles in the entire strip except for Queen Hollyann who is the wrong species and nearly 400 years in the future (unless she's a Creature).
I can kinda relate to Devin on this level. Poor guy. I imagine he has alot of pent-up loneliness
Quote from: Drake Manaweilder on November 01, 2006, 03:02:13 PM
There's one thing people seem to have missed in this comic... The fact that one of the nurses (the one that is holding Devin) is refering Devins mom as: "m'lady" (my lady) which tells me that Devins mom is some form of noble. Also, in the previous one she appears to be wharing something that a Midevil lady (as in lord/lady) would have on.
Maby this is just coincedence or some term used at the time, but it seems interesting to me.
Or maybe the bunny lady is their maid. Even if your not a noble, a maid might commonly say something like mistress, m'lady, or ma'am when addressing the head of the household.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 01, 2006, 03:10:44 PM
Quite right. I noticed that at once and promptly forgot about it :P
What I can't fathom is when Ink said that if the strip was in colour we'd have recognised the parents immediately. Since the father is wholly obscured, it suggests he is referring to the mother.
I did have a theory as I was walking here from school but I ended up shooting two massive holes in it
It was that May was a cubi and she sommened a doppleganger, that double became a noble(maby by may pulling a few strings), who then had Devin. Then the real May decided to get rid of her double for what ever reason (thus the whole "feaver" thing)
The problems with this is that i'm suddenly doubting that Dopplegangers can actually
have children. (as i think all they are are illusions with some physical elements under the illusion) And this woulden't explain the whole "should've killed you with the others" thing.
also:
Quote from: Teroniss on November 01, 2006, 03:44:13 PM
Or maybe the bunny lady is their maid. Even if your not a noble, a maid might commonly say something like mistress, m'lady, or ma'am when addressing the head of the household.
I haden't thought of that. :E
Quote from: rt on October 31, 2006, 09:39:06 AMAs for the grammer/spelling police ..
*tosses some random punctuation and miss-spelled words in a pit and watches chaos ensue*
// throws rt in the pit as well // :)
So long as it's all nice and contained and not in mainstream culture, it's quite fine by me. Easier to ignore that way. :3
Quote from: Drake Manaweilder on November 01, 2006, 03:55:18 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 01, 2006, 03:10:44 PM
Quite right. I noticed that at once and promptly forgot about it :P
What I can't fathom is when Ink said that if the strip was in colour we'd have recognised the parents immediately. Since the father is wholly obscured, it suggests he is referring to the mother.
I did have a theory as I was walking here from school but I ended up shooting two massive holes in it
It was that May was a cubi and she sommened a doppleganger, that double became a noble(maby by may pulling a few strings), who then had Devin. Then the real May decided to get rid of her double for what ever reason (thus the whole "feaver" thing)
The problems with this is that i'm suddenly doubting that Dopplegangers can actually have children. (as i think all they are are illusions with some physical elements under the illusion) And this woulden't explain the whole "should've killed you with the others" thing.
also:
Quote from: Teroniss on November 01, 2006, 03:44:13 PM
Or maybe the bunny lady is their maid. Even if your not a noble, a maid might commonly say something like mistress, m'lady, or ma'am when addressing the head of the household.
I haden't thought of that. :E
Don't you think that's a little far fetched. We have nothing that says that May is a cubi and why would she make her double call Devin a "fucking bastard". And then you even poked a hole in your own theory.
This issue was creepy.
Especially because I have read the "1001 Nights of Snowfall" hardcover of the Fables series. It had a lengthy story about a woman that killed children for several hundred years. What's creepy is that this story wasn't even that creepy. I mean, what would you expect of the witch that disguises her hut with gingerbread in order to lure little children there?
So this was the second story today that (possibly) featured killed children...
But no matter how bad all that is for Devin, I hope Devin's explanation for his antipathy towards Abel doesn't end up in some kind of cliched "I hate you because my parents hated me and yours love you". I doubt it, especially because I can't shake off the impression that there is some dark secret in Devin's family.
Quote from: Dard on November 01, 2006, 06:12:02 PM
This issue was creepy.
Especially because I have read the "1001 Nights of Snowfall" hardcover of the Fables series. It had a lengthy story about a woman that killed children for several hundred years. What's creepy is that this story wasn't even that creepy. I mean, what would you expect of the witch that disguises her hut with gingerbread in order to lure little children there?
Insert Micheal Jackson joke here :U
At any rate, I'm definitely wondering how many "others" there were...
hmm,
is it possible Devin and the others were not what their father wanted... perhaps they did not inherit certain physical or magical characteristics from him... after all we've never actually seen Devinvs father.
Any who i'm not going to come right out and say it but if you can't figure out what i'm talking about form my above rant, we'll just have to wait and see if i'm right.
Ta Ta
Sill, no one's explained this one yet: If Devin and the "other" children failed to inherit some sort of characteristic, why wasn't Devin killed? Was his mom fed up with killing her kids? Or was there something different about him? (And why can't I find a deep thought smiley?)
We may, of course, find out tomorrow/later tonight.
Or maybe Devin's mom was just a psychopath, who managed to keep the fact she had been killing her children a secret from her husband, who left after Devin revealed it to her?
Or maybe the more traditional story, where she didn't want him to have to die, but daddy was pissed that mommy had devin, so mommy is psycho because daddy left because of something mommy should've done. baby is sad :<
Maybe daddy was a horrible person who may also by coincidence been a incubbus/demon and when none of his children inherited their daddies lineage he guilted his blind with love, devoted wife to destroy them.
Then perhaps Devin comes along, she's sick of killing. She won't kill so daddy leaves.
Then again maybe she wasn't in her right mind when she killed the others? Cubbi can manipulate thoughts and actions right?
Then when he leaves she is heart broken and lost so blames it all on the one child she chose to keep.
there are so many ways that things can be wrong that i can not help but wonder. why was Devin spared? even if there are a hundred reasons to kill ore to die all it takes is one to live. what was Devin's? Cindy we know took her one life even if we don't know why but Devin persisted even when his world was shattered around him and i wonder why he clung to life when he was miserable.
maybe daddy wanted a girl?
Then again who knows, he could've just been an ass who descided to do a runner when Devin was born...
It's really odd, it sounds like his father left due to disapointment, so the only reasons i can think of:
1) Devin not inheriting his fathers magick/looks/etc.
2) Devin being born the wrong sex.
3) His mum cheated, so Devin doesn't look like his father, father then walking out.
4) Devin's father may have been an adventurer who had to leave, anyone here ever seen disneys "Treasure Planet"? like Jimms dad.
5) Maybe it was something that he couldn't tell his family about, or perhaps he was a failed adventurer who felt like he could not support them and so ran off?
For all those proposing the Devin and Ables father are one and the same i don't think it's that likely, for one they both live in the same town so someone would have to notice if he was sneaking around, and i don't think it's possible that either May or Devins mother could not have know about each other.
Still doesn't explain why she kept Devin, though maybe she doesn't mean kill quite the way we're all taking it?
Anyways quite the kunundrum... :3
Quote from: T. Dancer on November 01, 2006, 11:54:28 PM
Maybe daddy was a horrible person who may also by coincidence been a incubbus/demon and when none of his children inherited their daddies lineage he guilted his blind with love, devoted wife to destroy them.
Dr. Ink has said three times in the last few days that when a Being and a 'Cubi have children the result will always be a 'Cubi and this theory won't fly. That was a day or so before you joined the forum, mind :P
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 02, 2006, 04:37:01 AM
Dr. Ink has said three times in the last few days that when a Being and a 'Cubi have children the result will always be a 'Cubi and this theory won't fly. That was a day or so before you joined the forum, mind :P
And Ink was WROOOOOOONG! >:O
The problem that occasionally happens when you have a limited cast of characters is that oftentimes the exceptions are considered the norm. For example when Dan first went to the Academy, a lot of people were under the impression that the Academy just swoops in and carries off Cubi children when they get their headwings. Which isn't the case at all. But it looks like it.
I think Ink mistook a previous comment I made in that I said when it comes to Cubi genetics, there is an all or nothing approach. Either the kid will be a Cubi or they wont. There is no "half breed" in the sense a kid has some Cubi abilities but none of their weaknesses or some stupid-lame Blade form of powergaming. At the very most, a being-child might have some magical inclinations but they don't have any of the Cubi natural abilities.
I should make a breeding chart to give a good example of the success rates/results of various races interbreeding...but I suck at making tables! Oh god do I suck! D:
But it's an excuse to make funky tables using math! What more could you want? :U
...Wait a second... I HATE MATH! ARG! *implodes*
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 02, 2006, 04:48:05 AM
And Ink was WROOOOOOONG! >:O
Heh. I knew I'd forgotten something.. I was going to to add the 'but he could be wrong' disclaimer. Mostly I posted to try and head off someone else attacking the newbie for not reading :P
QuoteThe problem that occasionally happens when you have a limited cast of characters is that oftentimes the exceptions are considered the norm. For example when Dan first went to the Academy, a lot of people were under the impression that the Academy just swoops in and carries off Cubi children when they get their headwings. Which isn't the case at all. But it looks like it.
That's still likely to be the default case if they are brought up without knowing what they are, though, isn't it? The 'normal' way is that they are brought up knowing what they are and apply themselves, at a guess. Of course in Dan's case it was more.. drastic.. because they weren't able to foresee him.
QuoteI think Ink mistook a previous comment I made in that I said when it comes to Cubi genetics, there is an all or nothing approach.
To be honest, I did wonder..
Quote from: Amber
I should make a breeding chart to give a good example of the success rates/results of various races interbreeding...but I suck at making tables! Oh god do I suck! D:
You could ask Fa'Lina.. I'm sure she has a set of reference posters she could lend you. :)
Contrary to myth, the Academy isn't this giant Cubi radar that picks up magical headwing-vibes and deploys agents to yoink each and every child when they come to age. There are clans that don't use the Academy at all...and odds are there are likely plenty of Cubi children of various situations who go through their lives never even knowing an Academy existed. If there isn't an application, then the Academy isn't aware of them.
The application is kind of a heads up and a "Hey expect someone!" thing. Many Cubi parents file them when their child is in their teens. Then on the expected time, the parents go with their kid to the Academy and send them off. In certain cases Warp-Aci letters are deployed if the Cubi is possibly unaware of how to do the particular warp to the Academy.
But that requires A) knowledge of the Academy and B) knowledge of how to send stuff like a letter to the Academy.
The Academy is highly utilized by many clans yes...and it boasts a higher success rate of power and survival in comparison to most clans that do without. But it isn't a requirement, and cases of unwilling students tend to be rare. (maybe one every 200-500 years) When they happen, its usually a case-to-case situation.
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 02, 2006, 05:40:44 AM
Contrary to myth, the Academy isn't this giant Cubi radar that picks up magical headwing-vibes and deploys agents to yoink each and every child when they come to age.
Interesting, because that implies that Fa'lina has a unique interest in Dan ("We must bring him to the Academy at all costs"). The idea of the Academy being on the lookout would makes sense though, given that it was initially set up to protect the race. Of course this is trying to generalise Fa'lina's attitudes and drives over a course of 8-9 millennia.
QuoteThe application is kind of a heads up and a "Hey expect someone!" thing. Many Cubi parents file them when their child is in their teens. Then on the expected time, the parents go with their kid to the Academy and send them off. In certain cases Warp-Aci letters are deployed if the Cubi is possibly unaware of how to do the particular warp to the Academy.
Yes. That's more or less what sprang to mind when you nixed the first theory. Perhaps I've been reading too much into Fi's "No wonder we couldn't detect him" line, and the aforementioned comment from Fa'lina.
QuoteThe Academy is highly utilized by many clans yes...and it boasts a higher success rate of power and survival in comparison to most clans that do without. But it isn't a requirement, and cases of unwilling students tend to be rare. (maybe one every 200-500 years) When they happen, its usually a case-to-case situation.
Looks like I might have to re-engineer my fanfic slightly, although I deliberately avoided the 'don't want to go to SAIA' idea.
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 02, 2006, 05:40:44 AM
The Academy is highly utilized by many clans yes...and it boasts a higher success rate of power and survival in comparison to most clans that do without. But it isn't a requirement, and cases of unwilling students tend to be rare. (maybe one every 200-500 years) When they happen, its usually a case-to-case situation.
So, if it isn't a requirement, why force Dan to enrol, especially since he's (a) shown an inherent dis-interest in it and (b) this dis-interest is known by Fa'Lina shen she yanked him away? Possible reasons include Cyra Clan history (perhaps the elders, if they exist, specifically made it compulsary) (this could also explain why Destinia had to go even though she also shown dis-interest), or that Dan is more important than he seems...
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 02, 2006, 05:40:44 AM
Contrary to myth, the Academy isn't this giant Cubi radar that picks up magical headwing-vibes and deploys agents to yoink each and every child when they come to age.
:B Everyone knows only Hogwarts does that kind of stuff.
Then my theory is sound at this point that the Academy is up to something. It Involves with Dan and Abel. I knew it my rock in my gut never lies. Thank you for clearing that up Amber I understand what are you saying about this matter. Also on the Devin and Abel story the way Devin is looking at Abel family think about this what if Devin is not looking at Abel's family but directly at his real father.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 02, 2006, 05:19:49 AM
Heh. I knew I'd forgotten something.. I was going to to add the 'but he could be wrong' disclaimer. Mostly I posted to try and head off someone else attacking the newbie for not reading :P
The irony abounds. :square
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 02, 2006, 04:48:05 AM
I should make a breeding chart to give a good example of the success rates/results of various races interbreeding...but I suck at making tables! Oh god do I suck! D:
I'm a geneticist, Amber. I could help you create Punnett squares of inheritance for numerous cross-breedings. Just give a list of which traits are dominant or recessive, and which ones have a graded inheritance, incomplete penetrance, or could be downregulated or silenced by genes in the other species.
I could also come up with some very interesting combinations... and find which genetic mixture would lead to the supreme being!
*Charline listens with interest...* >:3
*Charles notes* That reminds me. Different colored eyes are often the result of tetragametic chimerism, meaning two embryos fused completely during the first few cell divisions. Chimeric individuals that have bilateral fusion can have different colored eyes, called heterochromia. Sometimes... they're hermaphrodites! Could that be Abel? Does he have a hidden evil twin that LIVES INSIDE HIM!! D:
I think a little bit of me died somehow when you just said that Charles :< Got me thinking about one of my characters that has heterochromia too.
*Charles pats RJ* It'll be alright. I'll take care of that abomination for you... *gets the villagers with the torches and pitchforks to kill the monster* Unclean! Unclean! >:3
:cry But... but....
Meanie... :<
I think Charles organised this: (http://www.furry.org.au/randomjoy/The_Villagers_Are_Restless_.gif) no?
Quote from: Alondro on November 02, 2006, 08:38:38 AM
I'm a geneticist, Amber. I could help you create Punnett squares of inheritance for numerous cross-breedings. Just give a list of which traits are dominant or recessive, and which ones have a graded inheritance, incomplete penetrance, or could be downregulated or silenced by genes in the other species.
I could also come up with some very interesting combinations... and find which genetic mixture would lead to the supreme being!
*Charline listens with interest...* >:3
*Charles notes* That reminds me. Different colored eyes are often the result of tetragametic chimerism, meaning two embryos fused completely during the first few cell divisions. Chimeric individuals that have bilateral fusion can have different colored eyes, called heterochromia. Sometimes... they're hermaphrodites! Could that be Abel? Does he have a hidden evil twin that LIVES INSIDE HIM!! D:
Just when I thought that this forum was devoid of scientifically-minded people...
Personally, I'd say I'm a... philosopher. Practical philosopher.
Quote from: Stygian on November 02, 2006, 10:10:33 AM
Just when I thought that this forum was devoid of scientifically-minded people...
Personally, I'd say I'm a... philosopher. Practical philosopher.
What branches of science did you want to see?
I'm still wondering if we have a few geniuses on this board, or just a few very good pranksters. Or maybe my oversized-but-fragile ego doesn't want to admit that there's anyone here smarter than me :shifty
I was just wondering last night if I should give one of my characters different colored eyes. The answer appears to be, "No."
Yeah... ouch.. o.o
Maybe somebody here could give Amber a chance to get a chart ready for the demology mixing and such.
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 02, 2006, 04:48:05 AM
And Ink was WROOOOOOONG! >:O
And I told them you told them he was wrong already D:
Quote from: DigitalMan on November 02, 2006, 10:32:07 AM
I'm still wondering if we have a few geniuses on this board, or just a few very good pranksters. Or maybe my oversized-but-fragile ego doesn't want to admit that there's anyone here smarter than me :shifty
I was just wondering last night if I should give one of my characters different colored eyes. The answer appears to be, "No."
Ehhm... Let me just say that my point of view is this; people have very different types of intelligence. Because of genetics, we think differently even to start off with (e.g. personally I am a very practical and intuitive thinker and learn best and think deepest when actively involved in or observing something, whereas my sister is a more scholarly type who learns best from reading and contemplation), and then we learn afterwards to use different parts of our brain to different extent, even further accentuating the difference between us all and specializing us. It even leaves a physical imprint upon our DNA, "grafting" itself into us and what we are. One person may be very intelligent and quick in thought in one situation, whereas in another they are hopelessly lost. And though there can be no denying that some people are clearly less intelligent than others, this often has a very clear reason to it.
Then, when you apply emotion and opinion to all this, it gains another level of complexity. Whether you study the purely biological, biochemical nature and function of emotions, or emotions in a personal and social context, I beleive that you
will come to the conclusion that they "interfere" with intelligence. You could say that they inhibit it, but I would rather say that they "distort" it. However, seeing as being biased towards something means refusing to see alternatives or options because you are too one-tracked as a result of your emotions, emotionality tied too closely together with intelligence most probably produces bad results.
But I am rambling. I will say this; intelligence is relative. Be glad of what you have.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 02, 2006, 10:12:34 AM
What branches of science did you want to see?
I WANT TO SEE MORE STEAMPUNK! FINAL FANTASY 7 IS THE WAY!
Quote from: RJ on November 02, 2006, 06:13:46 AM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 02, 2006, 05:40:44 AM
Contrary to myth, the Academy isn't this giant Cubi radar that picks up magical headwing-vibes and deploys agents to yoink each and every child when they come to age.
:B Everyone knows only Hogwarts does that kind of stuff.
Actually when I read that I immediately thought "Xavier Institute."
Hey, I actually understood all of Stygian's post. Sweet. I'm quite the practical thinker (when I choose to be, mind you).
I got a 104% in Biology II, so when Alondro's post started to lose me a bit, I was like, "... You've gotta be kidding me..."
Then again, I keep forgetting that a lot of people here are older than me and have been through college. I think the overall maturity (or lack thereof) of people casts a veil over that fact :P
... w00t! My first topic ever has now gone thoroughly off-topic! I feel special :giggle
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 02, 2006, 12:17:16 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 02, 2006, 04:48:05 AM
And Ink was WROOOOOOONG! >:O
And I told them you told them he was wrong already D:
And i knew Ink was wrong from the very get go, cuz unlike some ppl, I actually remember Amber stating the All or Nothing bit with Creature-Being breeding.
That's why genetic is so funny in some aspects. You will never know what you get in the gene pool. But that's the fun of having two people who love each other throw caution to the wind and produce a beautiful baby. They don't care of the genetics of the child. They will love it unconditionally.
Quote from: Teroniss on November 02, 2006, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 02, 2006, 12:17:16 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 02, 2006, 04:48:05 AM
And Ink was WROOOOOOONG! >:O
And I told them you told them he was wrong already D:
And i knew Ink was wrong from the very get go, cuz unlike some ppl, I actually remember Amber stating the All or Nothing bit with Creature-Being breeding.
That may have been before my time. In any case, maybe this will stop Shining from thinking I know everything about Furrae. >:3
Quote from: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 06:18:05 PM
That's why genetic is so funny in some aspects. You will never know what you get in the gene pool. But that's the fun of having two people who love each other throw caution to the wind and produce a beautiful baby. They don't care of the genetics of the child. They will love it unconditionally.
Well, technically speaking... 1) People "throwing caution to the wind" are not likely looking to have a child, and 2) With science, we can tell exactly what gene combinations will result in what. Actually, if I recall correctly, we can
dtermine the gene combinations, and alter the outcome.
Which makes me wonder if we could cause that different eye color thing...
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 02, 2006, 06:19:34 PM
Quote from: Teroniss on November 02, 2006, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 02, 2006, 12:17:16 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 02, 2006, 04:48:05 AM
And Ink was WROOOOOOONG! >:O
And I told them you told them he was wrong already D:
And i knew Ink was wrong from the very get go, cuz unlike some ppl, I actually remember Amber stating the All or Nothing bit with Creature-Being breeding.
That may have been before my time. In any case, maybe this will stop Shining from thinking I know everything about Furrae. >:3
I'm so sorry TW I go to you because you are very knowledgable in this subject, and I'm still new here I love to aske you these things to help me uderstand DMFA and Furare. I'm so sorry I got you so upset why don't you pm me. I'm a very reasonable person ok. No hard feelings.
Quote from: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 02, 2006, 06:19:34 PM
That may have been before my time. In any case, maybe this will stop Shining from thinking I know everything about Furrae. >:3
I'm so sorry TW I go to you because you are very knowledgable in this subject, and I'm still new here I love to aske you these things to help me uderstand DMFA and Furare. I'm so sorry I got you so upset why don't you pm me. I'm a very reasonable person ok. No hard feelings.
Oh, it's no big deal.. it's just a bit embarrassing. And it makes me feel like a charlatan when I don't know the answer :smile
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 02, 2006, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 02, 2006, 06:19:34 PM
That may have been before my time. In any case, maybe this will stop Shining from thinking I know everything about Furrae. >:3
I'm so sorry TW I go to you because you are very knowledgable in this subject, and I'm still new here I love to aske you these things to help me uderstand DMFA and Furare. I'm so sorry I got you so upset why don't you pm me. I'm a very reasonable person ok. No hard feelings.
Oh, it's no big deal.. it's just a bit embarrassing. And it makes me feel like a charlatan when I don't know the answer :smile
Dude no your not a charlatan. You are TW if you don't know the answer that's ok. I don't hold it against you. Sometimes I bounce off stuff in your direction to see in Furare if it's possible of certain things. If I embarrassed you then you should feel proud you have this fountain of knowledge at your fingertips. If you don't know then it's fine I'm very easy going.
/digs out link
Quote from: Amber Panykohttp://nice.purrsia.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=79;t=002182;p=1#000008
posted 26-08-2005
In Cubi/Beings...a child will either become a full-cubi or not one at all. There isn't any "half" in the sense they get cubi abilities of some but not all.
It was known long before that post but I could never find out where it was said...
Quote from: Kasarn on November 02, 2006, 06:52:10 PM
/digs out link
Quote from: Amber Panykohttp://nice.purrsia.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=79;t=002182;p=1#000008
posted 26-08-2005
In Cubi/Beings...a child will either become a full-cubi or not one at all. There isn't any "half" in the sense they get cubi abilities of some but not all.
It was known long before that post but I could never find out where it was said...
That's cool that helps you get pie for that. I never knew it was so complicated in those areas.
Quote from: Kasarn on November 02, 2006, 06:52:10 PM
/digs out link
Quote from: Amber Panykohttp://nice.purrsia.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=79;t=002182;p=1#000008
posted 26-08-2005
In Cubi/Beings...a child will either become a full-cubi or not one at all. There isn't any "half" in the sense they get cubi abilities of some but not all.
Yes. That isn't quite the same as "Being + Creature = Creature", though...
OH FINE *digs through notes*
Quote from: Amber Panykohttp://nice.purrsia.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=79;t=002236;p=1#000012
posted 07-09-2005
If [Fae] do, no one would really know since the offspring seems null of any Fae(or magic traits) and is just born a being.
Fae + non-Fae = Being
A Fae is a Creature
Therefore a Being and a Creature is not always a Creature
:tmyk
Yeah it's something that fall in the category in what Amber's universe of DMFA should look like.
It's not so simple as genes = behavior. If fact, recent long-term research has demonstrated quite conclusively that environment and nuture play a huge role in both behavior and other factors as well. Nurturing mother rats stimulated brain development in their pups, and the pups were calmer. This is now know to be caused by neurotransmitter responses to grooming. It has also been found that social behavior, certain foods, sunlight, and chemicals can permanently alter gene expression by either triggering or inhibiting the processes of DNA methylation and acetylation (by DNA (or histone) acetylase and methylase activity). These tiny molecular marker groups function to tell certain DNA binding proteins, such as transcription factors and histones, where to bind and which genes to activate or package into heterochromatin (which means the genes aren't expressed due to tight supercoiling of DNA, of which the centromeres of chromosomes are an example, vs transcriptionally active euchromatin). These patterns of methylation and acetylation are HERITABLE as well! Experiments with nematodes demonstrated that methylation and acetylation patterns can be passed down for up to 80 generations!
So, our lifestyle and eating habits, plus the chemicals we put into ourselves, can alter future generations gene expression patterns for centuries without even mutating a single nucleotide base pair. Neat!
*surveys the vast plains of slain forumites, whose heads exploded* Uh-oh... Amber's gonna blame me for this! *flees!* :aack
Okay, there's overanalysis, and then there's that. :erk
so may i ask why i was called a newbie?
I've read the demonology 101 chapters and that's why i wrote what i did. Also considering i only joined this forum yeasterday i really don't think it's expected of me to read every other post in every other topic.
I've also been reading this comic since sometime last year. I just don't often bother with joining or posting on forums.
So please no newb calling?
*can't resist* I blinded them with science! >:3
Quote from: T. Dancer on November 02, 2006, 07:42:45 PM
so may i ask why i was called a newbie?
I've read the demonology 101 chapters and that's why i wrote what i did. Also considering i only joined this forum yeasterday i really don't think it's expected of me to read every other post in every other topic.
I've also been reading this comic since sometime last year. I just don't often bother with joining or posting on forums.
So please no newb calling?
T, you were labelled as a "newbie" because you're new to the forum. Nothing more, nothing less - no condescension implied.
Now, if you'd been called a "noob", that would be a different matter. But, for all the labels we add, we're a reasonably welcoming bunch, if a trifle strange. Don't take it personal, like, ok? :-)
Heh, is cool.
Just play alot of WoW where the term "Newb" and "Noob" are both used as dorogatory terms.
Anyway wierdos are great company :) Most of my friends (and of course myself) fall into that catagory :giggle
so no offence taken.
Anyway hasn't the topic of convo wandered off a bit :)
Quote from: T. Dancer on November 02, 2006, 11:02:31 PM
Heh, is cool.
Just play alot of WoW where the term "Newb" and "Noob" are both used as dorogatory terms.
Anyway wierdos are great company :) Most of my friends (and of course myself) fall into that catagory :giggle
so no offence taken.
Anyway hasn't the topic of convo wandered off a bit :)
When did it not? :3
*understood most of Alondro's post, and inferred enough to get all of it* Sweet! Now I don't feel so stupid anymore!
... *shrugs* I can't even get my own topic back on track. Oh well, carry on!
*as usual he pulls off some random stunt only to get killed or brutally injured again*
you must visit it. http://www.kitsunekiki.com/comic/Kyuukei/Kyuukei_06.htm
it is from a comic...
*looks up another web comic*
Whoopeee-update
*Two men step behind him*
oh no not again.
*bolts for the door*
Quote from: T. Dancer on November 02, 2006, 07:42:45 PM
so may i ask why i was called a newbie?
Because you're new the the forum. As Llearch says, no malice was intended. Quite the opposite in fact, since there is a regrettable tendency for one or two members to snap at people and believe it or not, I was trying to prevent that from happening.
It's customary (although not obligatory) to run an introductory thread in the Shout-out forum where you can say hi and be greeted. But that's up to you.
In any case, welcome to the forum.
And to throw another curveball, also note that magic by itself can serve as a cause of final type. Example: Cynthia with her extra (presumably functional) eyeball. It is not a clear-cut form of gene-mutation, because extra eyeballs and etc is not a simple case of gene-swapping.
That too I would not be surprised of many gene manipulations that is going on around here at Furare. But that's me rambling a tune for you.
Wait... The first quote of Amber from The Nice said that there are a few 'taur cubi. Was she dropping hints about Dan and Matilda's compatibility? Only one way to find out! :mwaha (Starts to speculate wildly, then writes naughty fanfictions)
Quote from: Alan Garou on November 03, 2006, 09:27:32 PM
Wait... The first quote of Amber from The Nice said that there are a few 'taur cubi. Was she dropping hints about Dan and Matilda's compatibility? Only one way to find out! :mwaha (Starts to speculate wildly, then writes naughty fanfictions)
Oooor, maybe she's referring to the ones in the background of some panels, which I'm sure I saw.
Who knows what Amber will do on that subject of Matilda race at this point. I have a feeling it will be something very long and sad in the comic sense of Matilda's life. *MEH* that's me just babbling like a brook
Quote from: T. Dancer on November 02, 2006, 12:29:50 AM
maybe daddy wanted a girl?
Then again who knows, he could've just been an ass who descided to do a runner when Devin was born...
It's really odd, it sounds like his father left due to disapointment, so the only reasons i can think of:
1) Devin not inheriting his fathers magick/looks/etc.
2) Devin being born the wrong sex.
3) His mum cheated, so Devin doesn't look like his father, father then walking out.
4) Devin's father may have been an adventurer who had to leave, anyone here ever seen disneys "Treasure Planet"? like Jimms dad.
5) Maybe it was something that he couldn't tell his family about, or perhaps he was a failed adventurer who felt like he could not support them and so ran off?
For all those proposing the Devin and Ables father are one and the same i don't think it's that likely, for one they both live in the same town so someone would have to notice if he was sneaking around, and i don't think it's possible that either May or Devins mother could not have know about each other.
Still doesn't explain why she kept Devin, though maybe she doesn't mean kill quite the way we're all taking it?
Anyways quite the kunundrum... :3
That would certainly explain this:
(http://missmab.com/Comics/Abel_40.php)
Quote from: Stygian on November 02, 2006, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: DigitalMan on November 02, 2006, 10:32:07 AM
I'm still wondering if we have a few geniuses on this board, or just a few very good pranksters. Or maybe my oversized-but-fragile ego doesn't want to admit that there's anyone here smarter than me :shifty
I was just wondering last night if I should give one of my characters different colored eyes. The answer appears to be, "No."
Ehhm... Let me just say that my point of view is this; people have very different types of intelligence. Because of genetics, we think differently even to start off with (e.g. personally I am a very practical and intuitive thinker and learn best and think deepest when actively involved in or observing something, whereas my sister is a more scholarly type who learns best from reading and contemplation), and then we learn afterwards to use different parts of our brain to different extent, even further accentuating the difference between us all and specializing us. It even leaves a physical imprint upon our DNA, "grafting" itself into us and what we are. One person may be very intelligent and quick in thought in one situation, whereas in another they are hopelessly lost. And though there can be no denying that some people are clearly less intelligent than others, this often has a very clear reason to it.
Then, when you apply emotion and opinion to all this, it gains another level of complexity. Whether you study the purely biological, biochemical nature and function of emotions, or emotions in a personal and social context, I beleive that you will come to the conclusion that they "interfere" with intelligence. You could say that they inhibit it, but I would rather say that they "distort" it. However, seeing as being biased towards something means refusing to see alternatives or options because you are too one-tracked as a result of your emotions, emotionality tied too closely together with intelligence most probably produces bad results.
But I am rambling. I will say this; intelligence is relative. Be glad of what you have.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 02, 2006, 10:12:34 AM
What branches of science did you want to see?
I WANT TO SEE MORE STEAMPUNK! FINAL FANTASY 7 IS THE WAY!
I personally like steampunk. But FFVII just ticks me off because it is so :cuss overrated.
Quote from: Alan Garou on November 03, 2006, 09:27:32 PM
Wait... The first quote of Amber from The Nice said that there are a few 'taur cubi. Was she dropping hints about Dan and Matilda's compatibility? Only one way to find out! :mwaha (Starts to speculate wildly, then writes naughty fanfictions)
Dood!
... *pouts* Why's it always gotta be a writer, we need more graphic artists with dirty minds...
Quote from: ninjannihilator on November 04, 2006, 01:44:00 AM
I personally like steampunk. But FFVII just ticks me off because it is so :cuss overrated.
*whacks ninjannihilator with random object: tiny cocktail umbrella*
No arguing about FFVII here! Last time that came up we had many pages of crap.
Quote from: Alan Garou on November 03, 2006, 09:27:32 PM
*whacks ninjannihilator with random object: tiny cocktail umbrella*
No arguing about FFVII here! Last time that came up we had many pages of crap.
Sorry :neko
:confused My head hurts now.
Quote from: DigitalMan on November 03, 2006, 02:27:27 PM
Quote from: Alan Garou on November 03, 2006, 09:27:32 PM
Wait... The first quote of Amber from The Nice said that there are a few 'taur cubi. Was she dropping hints about Dan and Matilda's compatibility? Only one way to find out! :mwaha (Starts to speculate wildly, then writes naughty fanfictions)
Dood!
... *pouts* Why's it always gotta be a writer, we need more graphic artists with dirty minds...
Might I remind you of http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_128.php Anyone who would attempt to draw that would have their eyes burst into flames. :dface
I'm sure a great many people would want to see Dan in that, er, situation. I'm not one of them, but trust me, they're out there D:
Quote from: ninjannihilator on November 03, 2006, 02:31:58 PM
Sorry :neko
:confused My head hurts now.
... Argument avoided? That easily? Sweet. *offers ninjannihilator a piña colada*
I was particularly referring to Dan with Matilda. (Using #128 as an example.) But yeah, that too.
Guys they haven't gone out to an offical date yet, and you guys are already wondering what Matilda thinks of Dan's package. I know it's funny as heck but lets get back to the topic in hand. *giggles* alright lets get back to it at a later time.
...So basically you posted that to say nothing at all. You have this little habit of derailing things then telling people to go back on topic... all in the same post. Quit it. Seriously. Let people decide what they want, instead of having you tell them not to do something you do in every single topic at almost every moment you get the chance.
Anyway like I said Abel is trying to understand Devin but alas the more you try to understand devin the deeper the confusion on his character and emotions in general as a whole.
You try to understand devin, and you get pain. This was Abel's lesson >.>
True but there's more to Devin character that we are scratching the surface. The pain he inflicts to others is a defensive mechanism that he has feeling that he cannot deal with and the only way to show it is with pain.
Generic but an understandable reason nonetheless.
Quote from: ninjannihilator on November 08, 2006, 12:45:06 AM
Generic but an understandable reason nonetheless.
Thanks I try my best to be generic and less filling. :mwaha :mwaha
Quote from: DigitalMan on November 03, 2006, 02:27:27 PM
Quote from: Alan Garou on November 03, 2006, 09:27:32 PM
Wait... The first quote of Amber from The Nice said that there are a few 'taur cubi. Was she dropping hints about Dan and Matilda's compatibility? Only one way to find out! :mwaha (Starts to speculate wildly, then writes naughty fanfictions)
Dood!
... *pouts* Why's it always gotta be a writer, we need more graphic artists with dirty minds...
I'm only an amateur writer. I also draw, but I can't draw furries worth crud.
Quote from: Alan Garou on November 08, 2006, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: DigitalMan on November 03, 2006, 02:27:27 PM
Quote from: Alan Garou on November 03, 2006, 09:27:32 PM
Wait... The first quote of Amber from The Nice said that there are a few 'taur cubi. Was she dropping hints about Dan and Matilda's compatibility? Only one way to find out! :mwaha (Starts to speculate wildly, then writes naughty fanfictions)
Dood!
... *pouts* Why's it always gotta be a writer, we need more graphic artists with dirty minds...
I'm only an amateur writer. I also draw, but I can't draw furries worth crud.
I could draw cockroaches does that count?