Would this have any special properties other than letting everyone know you're a suicidal show-off? Such as giving a bit of the dragon's strength to the wearer in the form of resistances to certain magics?
Well, it might attract other dragons to take your head, I'd guess.
On the other hand, it might suggest that you're friends with a dragon. After all, if they shed scales every so often, it wouldn't be hard to collect the shed ones and make an outfit out of that...
I can't think of a reason it'd confer any magical properties (but I don't know DMFA dragons very well) but I'd imagine it'd at least be really durable, maybe good for armor? Like scale-mail?
Of course, the other option for reading this is "dragon-scale clothing", in which case, it wouldn't fit very well.
Unless you were a dragon, of course.
Magic was stated to rely on the soul , unless the soul of the Dragon itself is bound it's just a nice looking jacket .
Though I think it might be possible to get it to use the magic of its host .
I don't think it would work however otherwise you get things like cities making a living by constantly harvesting the hides of such creatures given all of the other abilities .
Quote from: meltingface101 on February 17, 2014, 06:26:06 PM
Magic was stated to rely on the soul , unless the soul of the Dragon itself is bound it's just a nice looking jacket .
Though I think it might be possible to get it to use the magic of its host .
Spells are, but innate magic may or may not be. A lump of metal in Furrae still contains magic unless it's specially refined and as far as we know that doesn't rely on the metal having a soul. Taking that further, it's possible that dragonskin could remain tough after death because the magic inside its atoms is still configured that way. Though assuming it did remain invulnerable, how you'd get it off the dragon in the first place is another matter.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 17, 2014, 11:52:57 AM
Of course, the other option for reading this is "dragon-scale clothing", in which case, it wouldn't fit very well.
Unless you were a dragon, of course.
I must admit, I wondered which option was intended when I saw the title of this thread...
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 17, 2014, 06:48:36 PM
Though assuming it did remain invulnerable, how you'd get it off the dragon in the first place is another matter.
The same way one get's cat-grease (http://www.bartleby.com/234/5.html)?
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 17, 2014, 06:48:36 PM
Quote from: meltingface101 on February 17, 2014, 06:26:06 PM
Magic was stated to rely on the soul , unless the soul of the Dragon itself is bound it's just a nice looking jacket .
Though I think it might be possible to get it to use the magic of its host .
Spells are, but innate magic may or may not be. A lump of metal in Furrae still contains magic unless it's specially refined and as far as we know that doesn't rely on the metal having a soul. Taking that further, it's possible that dragonskin could remain tough after death because the magic inside its atoms is still configured that way. Though assuming it did remain invulnerable, how you'd get it off the dragon in the first place is another matter.
Considering how every magic item we have seen so far rely upon a being , or a disembodied soul providing power , I don't think a being or any creature short of another dragon would get anything out of such a practice due to the constant power requirements .
Otherwise they could just constantly carve chunks out of a sedated Dragon , wait for it to regenerate . Then rinse , wash , repeat .
Quote from: meltingface101 on February 18, 2014, 11:00:01 AM
Considering how every magic item we have seen so far rely upon a being , or a disembodied soul providing power , I don't think a being or any creature short of another dragon would get anything out of such a practice due to the constant power requirements .
Otherwise they could just constantly carve chunks out of a sedated Dragon , wait for it to regenerate . Then rinse , wash , repeat .
I do believe you're, once again, misunderstanding the world that Ambaaargh has created, in order to argue a point that would otherwise be invalid.
For starters: how would you sedate the dragon, given the medical profession limits sedation to magic-only methods, which would be of little use on something as magic-resistant as your intended target?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 18, 2014, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: meltingface101 on February 18, 2014, 11:00:01 AM
Considering how every magic item we have seen so far rely upon a being , or a disembodied soul providing power , I don't think a being or any creature short of another dragon would get anything out of such a practice due to the constant power requirements .
Otherwise they could just constantly carve chunks out of a sedated Dragon , wait for it to regenerate . Then rinse , wash , repeat .
I do believe you're, once again, misunderstanding the world that Ambaaargh has created, in order to argue a point that would otherwise be invalid.
For starters: how would you sedate the dragon, given the medical profession limits sedation to magic-only methods, which would be of little use on something as magic-resistant as your intended target?
Boy you people hate me a lot , Anyways I'm sure the chloroform will pay for itself after a while if there was any demand . http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_879.php (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_879.php)
Either way creatures tend to lose their natural abilities when they are killed or turned undead . Logically the skin would suffer the same effect .
I don't understand why you in particular care about this detail
Quote from: meltingface101 on February 18, 2014, 01:38:59 PM
Boy you people hate me a lot , Anyways I'm sure the chloroform will pay for itself after a while if there was any demand . http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_879.php (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_879.php)
I don't hate you at all. And that chloroform isn't aimed for use on dragons.
Quote from: meltingface101 on February 18, 2014, 01:38:59 PM
Either way creatures tend to lose their natural abilities when they are killed or turned undead . Logically the skin would suffer the same effect .
I don't understand why you in particular care about this detail
"Logical" and "Furrae" don't necessarily mix.
As for why I care? You're posting on a forum. Everyone on the forum is welcome to respond with their thoughts. Why shouldn't I do the same?
Quote from: meltingface101 on February 18, 2014, 01:38:59 PM
Boy you people hate me a lot
I tend to not be very active these days, but I think I'm going to chime in here in response to this one a bit.
I'm going to preface this all by saying that you seem like a pretty serious, and intelligent fan of Mab's work. I honestly believe that you are deeply invested in it and probably quite doggedly interested in it, otherwise you wouldn't post as much and in as detailed of a manner as you do.
The issue to me, it seems is that your posts come off to most as being incredibly negative, critical and at times condescending towards other posters and towards Mab's work. It's as though you don't post here because you enjoy the work or people, so much as you post here because you enjoy tearing into them. That's what I've gleaned from just going back and reading your posts here and there and bit just now. Maybe it is the case that you don't actually enjoy the comic as it is. I don't know, honestly, because I don't know you. Neither does anyone else here, really. The only common thread the folks in the Lost Lake Inn really have is a love for Mab's work, so when they see someone who seems to not have that same thread it's very likely they're going to respond negatively to them.
I'm not saying that you should change or anything of the sort, but understand that if you post in a manner that folks perceive as being negative then you should expect that they'll respond in kind. Beyond that, your posting quirk of double spacing everything you post (and stubborn refusal to change it) has been called out by others as being annoying. You're intentionally annoying people and then acting like it's surprising that they don't seem to like you.
I'd have to side with Tape for the most part of the jacket. It would make sense that scales removed from the dragon might lose some of it's magical properties from being removed from the dragon. But for the most part, would naturally be embedded with some of it's magical properties.
Now it is open for debate will the scales be gradually dulled down over time and become ordinary scales or will magic constantly used against it harden the bonds between magicl energy particles and the dead flesh. But it seems possible that the jacket of dragon scales might carry over immunity for some time.
Considering Large Gryphons and Dragons probably have a good percentage of magical immunity in their parts. In fact, I wouldn't be surprise if the being Gryphons and Dragons make a good bit of money selling hair, claw, feathers and scales for suppliers of Adventurer gear. If you can supply it they will buy it and dragons have to start the hoard somewhere. >:3
Quote from: Mao on February 18, 2014, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: meltingface101 on February 18, 2014, 01:38:59 PM
Boy you people hate me a lot
I tend to not be very active these days, but I think I'm going to chime in here in response to this one a bit.
I'm going to preface this all by saying that you seem like a pretty serious, and intelligent fan of Mab's work. I honestly believe that you are deeply interested in it and probably quite doggedly interested in it, otherwise you wouldn't post as much and in as detailed of a manner as you do.
The issue to me, it seems is that your posts come off to most as being incredibly negative, critical and at times condescending towards other posters and towards Mab's work. It's as though you don't post here because you enjoy the work or people, so much as you post here because you enjoy tearing into them. That's what I've gleaned from just going back and reading your posts here and there and bit just now. Maybe it is the case that you don't actually enjoy the comic as it is. I don't know, honestly, because I don't know you. Neither does anyone else here, really. The only common thread the folks in the Lost Lake Inn really have is a love for Mab's work, so when they see someone who seems to not have that same thread it's very likely they're going to respond negatively to them.
I'm not saying that you should change or anything of the sort, but understand that if you post in a manner that folks perceive as being negative then you should expect that they'll respond in kind. Beyond that, your posting quirk of double spacing everything you post (and stubborn refusal to change it) has been called out by others as being annoying. You're intentionally annoying people and then acting like it's surprising that they don't seem to like you.
I fail to see how I come off as serious in any shape or form . I was always under the impression that people avoided my post due to the fact they sound utterly retarded . Indeed I admit that I can come off as negative but that generally that's what happens in debates and discussions . I became interested in the comic due to the setting .It is much like D&D but the effects magic on society seem a bit more thought out . Perhaps I could PM you to discuss further how I have deviated from standard forum conduct , if it is not to much trouble ?
Also Dragons always struck me as the type of creature to proud to let others handle , let alone keep discarded body parts that have even a remote chance of conferring their abilities to others . Especially given their rather dim views on other races .
Quote from: meltingface101 on February 18, 2014, 08:07:03 PM
Also Dragons always struck me as the type of creature to proud to let others handle , let alone keep discarded body parts that have even a remote chance of conferring their abilities to others . Especially given their rather dim views on other races .
Hmmmmmmm...Well generally I'd say your painting the dragons with a rather broad brush. Not that it's a totally bad thing. We've only had a few dragons show up and Destania has generally painted such a dark and twisted view of them.
From what we've seen, dragons don't seem much different then any other race in Furrae in the aspect that while a race may have certain personality quirks describe from the demonology page, they work themselves through in different and surprising ways. We have Ducky, the Amazon sister, Ducky's father and Balorie mentioned in the demonology page.
It would seem unlikely all Dragons hold any death wish against the cubi's. Just like that also it would seem unlikely all dragons would be so wrapped up in dragon pride not to relies if their scales and claws might have potential for making special equipment, then they might have the makings for a lucrative trade item and cash in on it.
In fact, considering how dangerous Dragons can be, dragons can probably work deals quite well in their favor.
Of coarse saying that I get images of girl scouts coming to the door and trying to get Ducky to pay for an entire flatbed of cookies for a lock of hair. :B
Quote from: meltingface101 on February 18, 2014, 08:07:03 PM
Perhaps I could PM you to discuss further how I have deviated from standard forum conduct , if it is not to much trouble ?
Stop double-spacing after every word! That would help so freaking much.
Quote from: Darkmoon on February 18, 2014, 11:43:39 PM
Quote from: meltingface101 on February 18, 2014, 08:07:03 PM
Perhaps I could PM you to discuss further how I have deviated from standard forum conduct , if it is not to much trouble ?
Stop double-spacing after every word! That would help so freaking much.
... particularly erroneous when done _before_ the fullstop, rather than just after it. But I've mentioned that before.
Quote from: meltingface101 on February 18, 2014, 08:07:03 PM
Perhaps I could PM you to discuss further how I have deviated from standard forum conduct , if it is not to much trouble ?
Most anyone is welcome to PM me at any time about any topic (and if you're lucky and I'm having a good day, I may even respond! Possibly even nicely!), but I don't think that anything beyond what I've said already can help. I think that just having this conversation out here in public like this will help as it is. It gives people a bit of insight into your side of things (lets us know you some) and expresses what some folks here seem to be thinking (lets you know us some).
Though if I could harp on this point one last time: the spacing thing. I don't know why you do it (and maybe it might help if I did), nor do I really care much beyond finding it annoying to read as well. However, if you won't take the effort to correct that then don't be surprised when people in turn won't put effort into fair reading and consideration of your posts. It's a tit-for-tat thing.
Heh, you said "tit".