Didn't see a topic up for this yet, thought I'd launch it. :U
SO! We have a new backstory war in progress! The events of Matilda's exile versus the origin of the Fae and the mechanics of Furrae!
Discuss which one you'd like to see win or why you voted for one if you did! :mowhappy
As far as me goes, I'm on the fence. My naturally super-analytical mind would -love- to know more about how the world works...but Matilda is just so adorable and awesome, and I can't get enough of her!
Your thoughts, forum?
As cute as Matilda is (she has a shop that sells genie bottles! Squee~), Mab is pretty much my favorite character in the series, and I find myself rereading the "All Hail Queen Mab" and "Fae" arcs regularly. So my vote is for more fae goodness!
EDIT: Just looking at the chart, Matilda's off to an early lead... I think cuteness is going to win out over intellectual curiosity in this one. I'll toss in at least some money towards Mab, but I am running a tight budget this month saving up for Anthrocon... D:
I would definitely vote for the Fae backstory. Definitely worth seeing since the Fae are very enigmatic and likely make a lot of world-changing decisions. Matilda, on the other hand, kinda cute but doesn't really have that much of a bearing on the story at hand.
For old time's sake, the question has to be asked: If we conspire to force a tie, do we get both stories? :3
don't have any money to donate sadly, but I hope the Fae win.
I also don't have any money to spare... Thou I'm hoping the other way.
Come on I wanta here the story that would make Dan buy a round in her name! *squee*
Personally, I would like to see Mab's Side Story win; mainly because I am very curious to learn a bit more about the inner workings of the DMFA universe.
Nothing against Matilda because she's adorably cute and I love her as a character, and I wouldn't mind a side-story of her either; but it was mentioned in the story (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1065.php) at least part of the reason why she was exiled. There's probably more to it, but I'm sure we'll find out everything eventually. Yet as it stands, the nature of the DMFA universe, is still quite a mystery; so I'd rather learn more about what I don't already have some idea on. :3
EDIT: Fixed for minor spelling/grammar mistakes, I had missed. Whoops..... :sweatdrop
hopefully finances will progress in such a way that i can toss a few bux matty's way
cause i loves me some goofy cobrataur
Urph. I'd love to donate to the war but I can't justify frivolously spending money after recently losing my job. Also I have no idea which side I would vote for. Hmmm.
I think I'd feel rather bad if folks spend money when it isn't the best time to do so, so don't feel bad Lego. One of the reasons I do the wars is that even if folks cannot donate, they still are going to get something via the extra comics.
I tried to pick two stories that would be enjoyable (for the readers and for myself) regardless of which one wins. Both have some pretty decent pros to them and both also have some pretty scary art challenges. But it should be fun.
All in all, I'm incredibly thankful for anyone who donates or anyone who just is excited about the side-story wars in general. It should be a good time. c:
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 12, 2013, 12:01:26 AM
I tried to pick two stories that would be enjoyable (for the readers and for myself) regardless of which one wins. Both have some pretty decent pros to them and both also have some pretty scary art challenges. But it should be fun.
I have a bad feeling that more people are going to pick Matilda just to see more of these guys (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1319.php) get drawn. Still, I can't help but wonder what the art challenges of the Fae story would be.
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 12, 2013, 12:01:26 AM
All in all, I'm incredibly thankful for anyone who donates or anyone who just is excited about the side-story wars in general. It should be a good time. c:
I will definitely donate to Mab's side so that hopefully we all can learn more about the inner workings of the DMFA universe...once I manage to actually get a job.
No contest in my book - I can't imagine there's too much to Matilda's backstory we haven't already heard, whereas to get a backstory on the Fae... holy crap. Dream extra.
Quote from: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on January 11, 2013, 08:27:34 PM
Personally, I would like to see Mab's Side Story win; mainly because I am very curious to learn a bit more about the inner workings of the DMFA universe.
Nothing against Matilda because she's adorably cute and I love her as a character, and I wouldn't mind a side-story of her either; but it was mentioned in the story (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1065.php) at least part of the reason why she was exiled. There's probably more to it, but I'm sure we'll find out everything eventually. Yet as it stands, the nature of the DMFA universe, is still quite a mystery; so I'd rather learn more about what I don't already have some idea on. :3
EDIT: Fixed for minor spelling/grammar mistakes, I had missed. Whoops..... :sweatdrop
this pretty much summs it up for me... though i have no money to donate. wish i did
are these numbers right? @_@
matilda $920
fae $635
Not even a week and its almost got the same total as the last sidestory war o.o
Well, I probably ought to throw a tenner Mab's way, even though it's looking like something of a lost cause at this point... :mowsad. Strange, since this thread seems to be leaning pretty strongly in the opposite direction.
How long's this thing running?
Quote from: Lying Foo on January 13, 2013, 04:43:41 PM
Well, I probably ought to throw a tenner Mab's way, even though it's looking like something of a lost cause at this point... :mowsad. Strange, since this thread seems to be leaning pretty strongly in the opposite direction.
How long's this thing running?
End of the month, it says.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 13, 2013, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: Lying Foo on January 13, 2013, 04:43:41 PM
Well, I probably ought to throw a tenner Mab's way, even though it's looking like something of a lost cause at this point... :mowsad. Strange, since this thread seems to be leaning pretty strongly in the opposite direction.
How long's this thing running?
End of the month, it says.
Yeah, it's weird how according to the straw poll of this thread, many more people want Mab's side to win, and yet Matilda's side is still ahead, now by nearly $600. It might be that the few people who want Matilda to win have very deep pockets, but probability wise at least as many people who want Mab to win should have pockets just as deep.
Man, I really wish I could run a statistical analysis based on the exact donation amounts and the dates at which they were received, but it isn't like the Wallpaper War is some legally constrained fundraiser, so Amber isn't required by law to divulge that data.
It's a shame I can't contribute to this, as I really want Mab's side to win. Even if I succeeded in getting a job this very day, my first paycheck wouldn't arrive until it's too late. Heck, even if it arrived in time, it still wouldn't be nearly enough to tip the scales in Mab's favor at this point unless at least a few other people contributed large amounts. :C
Maybe if we can push it to a grand we can get a Powerpoint presentation about the creation of the universe :P
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 14, 2013, 08:35:45 AM
Maybe if we can push it to a grand we can get a Powerpoint presentation about the creation of the universe :P
Yeah, a consolation of some sort would be good, especially since statistically this doesn't make sense.
I mean, out of all the unique posters in this thread who have explicitly stated their opinion, the current numbers are 2 vs 9 for Matilda vs Mab, with 2 others undecided (although I may have miscounted since I'm still waking up). The margin of error must be massive for Matilda to beating Mab at this moment. I also really wish this thread was set up as a poll for who people wanted to win.
I'm gunna try to chuck some money at Mab's side cos I really wanna get that bonus pic. I hear it's adorable. 8D
~K. *: )
Sudden reversals have been a way of life on some of these things, folks. Don't go giving up hope yet.
As for me I don't know which one I want to win. I'd probably go with Mab in the end because I feel learning more about the universe is a more significant thing, and because we've already learned some of Matilda's story, but I am really fond of Matilda. It doesn't really matter at the moment, because (like several folks here, it seems) I has not an income, so I has not the monies at the moment.
Still best of luck to both sides, and as I said, don't go giving up hope yet. Things appeared in the bag for us to be having a "Regina's Story" sidestory comic, and instead we ended up with over 100 pages on some spotty critter.
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 14, 2013, 08:50:40 AM
Yeah, a consolation of some sort would be good, especially since statistically this doesn't make sense.
I mean, out of all the unique posters in this thread who have explicitly stated their opinion, the current numbers are 2 vs 9 for Matilda vs Mab, with 2 others undecided (although I may have miscounted since I'm still waking up). The margin of error must be massive for Matilda to beating Mab at this moment. I also really wish this thread was set up as a poll for who people wanted to win.
A point for consideration; I suspect sampling bias to be at work here.
Consider these two possible side-stories. Matilda's story is how she got exiled from her tribe. That's a character-driven character-developing story. "Mab's" story is about the origin of the Fae and how the DMFA universe works. That's a world-building data-making story.
Consider that the kind of people who would be attracted to the latter option are themselves analytical types with a high tendancy to think things out, and by extention, debate them.
Are we not therefor the kind of people who would then be most likely to invest the time to register on a forum for the purpose of discussing and dissecting each comic? :U
(after all, it is known that there are -far- more people who read DMFA than just people who hang out here.)
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on January 14, 2013, 10:59:44 PM
A point for consideration; I suspect sampling bias to be at work here.
Consider these two possible side-stories. Matilda's story is how she got exiled from her tribe. That's a character-driven character-developing story. "Mab's" story is about the origin of the Fae and how the DMFA universe works. That's a world-building data-making story.
Consider that the kind of people who would be attracted to the latter option are themselves analytical types with a high tendancy to think things out, and by extention, debate them.
Are we not therefor the kind of people who would then be most likely to invest the time to register on a forum for the purpose of discussing and dissecting each comic? :U
(after all, it is known that there are -far- more people who read DMFA than just people who hang out here.)
That's exactly what I was thinking -- those people active in the forums are the ones more likely to be interested in the universe-building side, but there's undoubtably lots of people who are more interested in a character story than background info like that.
I'm still hoping to toss some money towards the fae side, but I'll still have to wait until closer to the end of the month to see my budget.
or ya know....it could always be they just want to see a butt-ton more taurs and improve Mabs Clawhand :rolleyes
Now I want to get a Doctor Claw-style gauntlet for Mab's clawhand. :3
Yeah, it probably is the sampling bias that accounts for the massive margin of error. Still, today it seems that Matilda has plateaued, whereas Mab has gained an additional $25, so I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that all the readers with deep pockets have made their contributions and now the Fae side has a chance to catch up.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be at least slightly happy if Matilda won, mainly for the following two reasons:
- To see more of these guys (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1319.php) get drawn.
- To learn more about Matilda's culture and how likely it is for cubi to be born from a member of their species given the restrictions of their culture, especially given how they treat their females (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1065.php).
The latter reason would be useful for my fan-fictions, but it pales in comparison to the knowledge that could be gained from the Fae Origin story, which is why
I'm still hoping Mab's side wins. That is why I bit the bullet and sent $5.00 Amber's way for Mab to win. It might not be much but at least it's something.
Well, I tossed a c-note Mabs way, over paypal, so hopefully that'll get us closer to the answers of life, this universe, and everything...
I need to win the lottery. Then I can always dominate these things! MY WILL SHALL RULE OVER ALL!! *goes and buys a Powerball ticket* Soon... very soon now!
(300 years and 30,400 tickets later)
Any day now... :B
with so much money being thrown towards this, i wonder if Amber will consider tackling them both if the donation total goes high enough. (like $5,000.00)
:mowcookie
She'd consider it, but considering this comic is essentially her job, her working on 3 comics in tandem would mean she's getting paid, like 0.04cents a page... So she'd have at least a dozen people shaking their head sternly at her... an artist who is not over-worked and under-paid is a much happier artist. : U
~K. *: )
I think the big limitation isn't so much money, as it is time. If someone threw a big enough wad of cash at her to draw both comics -- say, $1 million -- then she'd probably be happy to do it. But I imagine that while she probably has the time to spare to do one extra comic on top of regular DMFA updates, trying to do two comics and the current update cycle would probably be too much.
Still, if one assumes the comic will take at least 6 months to complete (20 pages or so, at one page per week), and one wants to pay Amber a fair salary for her time, then I suppose $15,000 to $20,000 might be enough to make doing two comics financially feasible. On the other hand, the odds of turning up that much money in the next two weeks seems slim. :P
I'm still not entirely sure how much I'll be able to toss into the fray... my budget is looking good, but between paying for my flight to Anthrocon and wanting to help out some of my friends that are having tough times, I'm still not sure what I'll have to spare. :(
I know I'd probably get a little steamed if she tried to do three comics (one with updates two a week).
hmm....Point...Then what if it was one comic at a time and the one with the higher donation amount could go first? I mean, abels story was over 200 pages and (hopefully) neither of these would come anywhere close to that so...
Also ill confess im one of the people on the matilda side of this XD Im curious to find out how she ended up going from exile to living in a large town running a shoppe in the mall surrounded by water birds XD Might offer a look into the life of a person in this universe who isnt a cubi or an adventurer
Quote from: Jasae Bushae on January 17, 2013, 11:31:29 AM
hmm....Point...Then what if it was one comic at a time and the one with the higher donation amount could go first? I mean, abels story was over 200 pages and (hopefully) neither of these would come anywhere close to that so...
Also ill confess im one of the people on the matilda side of this XD Im curious to find out how she ended up going from exile to living in a large town running a shoppe in the mall surrounded by water birds XD Might offer a look into the life of a person in this universe who isnt a cubi or an adventurer
I say she'd still need to raise well over $5000 before doing such... Even if she's not doing everything at once, she'd still need to be compensated for the TIME she'd put into it,and 5k doesn't last very long unless you're very very very good at budgeting/bargaining or perhaps living at home and not paying rent or have no other bills..?
ANYWAY; I'll be impressed if Mab manages to catch up.: U
Dig deep Mab-fans; after all, you don't need BOTH kidneys.
~K. *: )
As soon as my new job is confirmed, I think I'll donate out of celebration.
I've been reading the comics since I was 16 (I'm now 23), and now I finally can donate!
My God, either there are many many readers who want Matilda to win, a few very rich ones. At this point it seems safe to call Matilda the winner, unless someone VERY rich and on Mab's side comes along in the next 13 days to even things out. Just keep buying those lottery tickets, Alondro. You're not the only one. ;)
Either way, at least I'm happy knowing even my meager drop in the bucket is going towards the worthy cause of helping Amber and Mason get out of dental debt. Mason isn't the only one in that boat, especially between my brother's wisdom teeth and my snaggled teeth and underbite.
All that aside, even I have to admit that Side-Story War chibi Matilda is being super cute right now. Can her species really scale walls like geckos? If so, a controllable (possibly van der Waals based) stickiness like that certainly makes up for the lack of opposed digits. Hopefully we'll learn more about this possible ability in her upcoming background story, since at this point it seems inevitable.
Just a few rich ones? XD at this rate matilda will surpass the last side story war all on her own. @_@ wait...*rechecks* she already did! XD
Now im sorta wondering if that insane prediction of 10,000 being donated is that crazy now....XD
and wow. if the bonus comics going to feature perspectivee shots of matildas people scaling around like that i can only imagine the nightmare they will be to draw XD (on the plus side, abel will seem like a drop in the bucket by the end ^^ )
hmm...i wonder if i could fill a pillow with money if i used $1's...a money laden pillow fight does sound fun...
since no one else has brought harry belafonte into the mix...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=160rGid_TFw
I just hope the disparity doesn't discourage people from donating further. Regardless of which 'side' wins, we've got bonus comics! And Amber is an awesome artist who deserves a bit of compensation for all the hard work she's put into this project.
How to these story wars work? And how do you contribute money to them?
Quote from: icarus on January 18, 2013, 03:00:32 PM
since no one else has brought harry belafonte into the mix...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=160rGid_TFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCFUGCOLLU ?
Quote from: Plotting on January 19, 2013, 12:45:49 AM
How to these story wars work? And how do you contribute money to them?
Everyone donates to Mab, as per standard, except you add in the comment as to which way you want your donation to go.
Simples!
Quote from: Prroul on January 18, 2013, 08:12:46 PM
I just hope the disparity doesn't discourage people from donating further. Regardless of which 'side' wins, we've got bonus comics! And Amber is an awesome artist who deserves a bit of compensation for all the hard work she's put into this project.
And it's only $230 to go to an even $4K.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 19, 2013, 12:53:40 AM
Everyone donates to Mab, as per standard, except you add in the comment as to which way you want your donation to go.
Simples!
Thanks! Money sent to starving artist who creates lots of funky Mytho species!
hummm..
One that both comics idea there is a way that doesn't overtax the amazing.
make each Bi-weekly instead of weekly.
like a Week A (this one) , week B ( other one), next week back to A.
That might even stop the dreaded claw-hand ^_^
Thou.. looking at the scores this seems a completely nu-nessacery suggestion now. Ah well.
have to admit Matilda making a break for it is massively cute. wonder how that will be put in the archives for this bonus mini-comic thing..
Quote from: Jesk Levethix on January 19, 2013, 05:30:24 AM
hummm..
One that both comics idea there is a way that doesn't overtax the amazing.
make each Bi-weekly instead of weekly.
like a Week A (this one) , week B ( other one), next week back to A.
That might even stop the dreaded claw-hand ^_^
Thou.. looking at the scores this seems a completely nu-nessacery suggestion now. Ah well.
have to admit Matilda making a break for it is massively cute. wonder how that will be put in the archives for this bonus mini-comic thing..
as someone who does comics too, this isn't really gonna be less of a problem. making a comic requires a lot of planning, and the planning takes time as well. she'd be juggling three comic concepts, plots, scripts and sketches... it can still get overwhelming very quickly. art is only one factor of the comic making process.
Quote from: icarus on January 19, 2013, 07:54:32 AM
Quote from: Jesk Levethix on January 19, 2013, 05:30:24 AM
hummm..
One that both comics idea there is a way that doesn't overtax the amazing.
make each Bi-weekly instead of weekly.
like a Week A (this one) , week B ( other one), next week back to A.
That might even stop the dreaded claw-hand ^_^
Thou.. looking at the scores this seems a completely nu-nessacery suggestion now. Ah well.
have to admit Matilda making a break for it is massively cute. wonder how that will be put in the archives for this bonus mini-comic thing..
as someone who does comics too, this isn't really gonna be less of a problem. making a comic requires a lot of planning, and the planning takes time as well. she'd be juggling three comic concepts, plots, scripts and sketches... it can still get overwhelming very quickly. art is only one factor of the comic making process.
That may be, but what if, like Tapewolf, Amber were to at least eliminate art as a factor by bringing in a third party artist, perhaps to draw the losing side-story?
Like what Tapewolf did with The Dark Angel, she could take it as far as storyboarding, with blank cells with positioned speech bubbles, and then pass it off to third party artist, who'd then draw, sketch, ink, and color it, checking with Amber at various stages, and then reintegrate the speech bubbles and give her the finished image files to publish on missmab.com.
It doesn't seem too unreasonable for Amber to bring in another artist she knows well and trusts to do this, especially considering that KV1NN4 has been helping Amber to ink some of the recent pages in the main comic. On the other hand, Amber might not trust anyone else with drawing one of her comics for her own reasons, but I'm not going to try to grasp at straws at what those reasons are because I don't know Amber that well. It's only a suggestion on how to lighten possibly lighten the workload of doing three comics at once if she does choose to publish both side-stories. ;)
I also agree that alternating the comics between weeks for fortnightly updates would be a good idea as well, regardless of whether or not Amber draws both side-stories. It would mix it up and make it more exciting for the readers by giving them something to wait for, on top of possibly allowing buffers to be built up for both side-stories.
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 19, 2013, 11:51:03 AM
It doesn't seem too unreasonable for Amber to bring in another artist she knows well and trusts to do this, especially considering that KV1NN4 has been helping Amber to ink some of the recent pages in the main comic.
i believe KV1NN4 was just inking amber's sketches. the bulk of the work still fell to amber.
Quote from: icarus on January 20, 2013, 10:45:19 AM
i believe KV1NN4 was just inking amber's sketches. the bulk of the work still fell to amber.
Yeah,she does do the lion's share of work. Also,i'm trying to get my own webcomic going this year...just need to build up a buffer before it goes live.
Aaaaand telling both side stories would take time in the long run that the money she's making from this war, will again, not result in it being fair financial compensation (unless it does break in at least 5 figures) for the time/work she put in, even if she was alternating the schedule...
But i don't really know how to explain the time/money/update schedule thing properly. I guess... jsut because you're going slower and taking your time doing something doens't mean its... um... less work... or.. worth more money?
..I need to get back to packing.
~K. *: )
SWEET JUMPING JEHOSHAPHAT! Ok, I swear I've been checking this page every day, and just yesterday it still told me Matilda only had about $900. Where in the billions of billious barbecued blue blistering barnacles did $2800 come from?!
That image updated (for me) on friday (and again today, from the looks of it). Maybe you had a cached version?
Quote from: Mao on January 20, 2013, 11:43:13 PM
That image updated (for me) on friday. Maybe you had a cached version?
I shouldn't have, but I have visited enough pages since then, and I visited this one just long enough to see "nope the image hasn't changed" that I cannot guarantee by this point that I did a forced refresh of the page. I probably did, because I always do when there's something I want to check and see if it updated, but I cannot clearly remember.
Matilda was running away from the war, climbing the image, but her number was still only about 900.
Quote from: Wanderer on January 20, 2013, 11:46:31 PM
Quote from: Mao on January 20, 2013, 11:43:13 PM
That image updated (for me) on friday. Maybe you had a cached version?
I shouldn't have, but I have visited enough pages since then, and I visited this one just long enough to see "nope the image hasn't changed" that I cannot guarantee by this point that I did a forced refresh of the page. I probably did, because I always do when there's something I want to check and see if it updated, but I cannot clearly remember.
Matilda was running away from the war, climbing the image, but her number was still only about 900.
Yeah, I have that problem too, and I usually have to reload the page a few times, even after directly loading the image (http://www.missmab.com/Images/WW_SW1.gif).
What amazes me is the fact that even though the total is nearly a whopping $4000, it will still only put a dent in the dental bill. :erk
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 21, 2013, 07:47:48 AM
What amazes me is the fact that even though the total is nearly a whopping $4000, it will still only put a dent in the dental bill. :erk
Teeth are expensive. If nothing else, consider that the dentist needs a whole lot of specialised tools, long training, a well-trained assistant, a hopefully-clean place to work... and that's not counting the materials you walk away from him or her carrying in your mouth. Gold or gold-plated, titanium... not cheap metals, and one of the reasons they're not cheap is that they're useful for putting inside people when you don't want their body to try to take the darn things apart.
Frankly, if the dental bill is for four or five hours of their time, I'd not think two grand unexceptional. In GBP, no less.
Bweeeeh... I remember the one time I had to get actual dental surgery done (full anaesthesia and all) for something with my wisdom teeth, and the bill was around $800. I do remember inquiring at the time about various other options at the times (caps and bridges and so on), but they were at least double the price of my operation (which I think was simply pulling out the offending teeth), so yeah... I can sort of imagine a highly expensive dental operation.
It also sounds like the money is going towards helping out with other debts as well, though, so it may be that simply a portion of the accumulated donations is going towards paying for a portion of the operation.
I have exceptionally good insurance from work (though this might get screwed up with upcoming law changes and I may not be able to afford it any longer...) and having an emergency extraction of a tooth (and subsequent x-rays and examination, etc) ran into the thousands of dollars of which I had to pay about a quarter (25%) of.
Seeing Matilda's exodus along the frame of the comic makes me wonder, though... is there any way to see these 'underlay' in an archive or the like? Because this isn't the first time one of the contests has gotten decidedly yet understandably odd.
Yeah. Woefully dental is not a thing covered by the the gov as its considered a cosmetic surgery...so most of the time it's up to the person to handle dental. My husband's work has some insurance but it usually only covers a percent with a 1k cap limit per year. When his teeth decided to make a break for it, getting that sucker fixed took about 1.5k alone.
I cannot deny that another factor that caused the debt was simply the interest and a few times it was pay rent versus pay debt...with rent winning out so the interest then snuck up another notch. Because even with a debt, groceries and bills and life necessities still need to be paid for.
If folks want what the debt's total is more close to, it's thankfully not in the 5 digit mark. But it is a little more than double the amount raised so far. As I mentioned, it was never my goal to try to raise the full amount because I don't know if I could make a side-story that impressive and I fear that what with happened with Abel's Story in how the pages ran away past my expected amount, offering both may end up with me biting off far more than I could chew in terms of workload. Still, if the full amount had gotten raised, I would probably have to do something. Because I'm a prideful creature who wouldn't feel comfortable otherwise.
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 21, 2013, 01:40:32 PM
Woefully dental is not a thing covered by the the gov as its considered a cosmetic surgery...so most of the time it's up to the person to handle dental.
Yeah, that's one of the things about the Canadian system that tripped me up when I finally got old enough to no longer be eligible for my parents' coverage. As near as I can tell, most physical health issues are covered, as I've gone into clinics to get rashes and the like examined with no significant charges. But dental treatment? You're basically footing the entire bill yourself, even if it's excruciating amounts of pain.
Still, it could be far, far worse. <.<
I do want to respond to your lengthy rant about getting onto a more regular art schedule at some point, as I can sympathize with a lot of what you're going through with it. I'm just not sure if this thread or the other is the better venue for it... :P
Quote from: Mischa on January 21, 2013, 01:59:28 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 21, 2013, 01:40:32 PM
Woefully dental is not a thing covered by the the gov as its considered a cosmetic surgery...so most of the time it's up to the person to handle dental.
Yeah, that's one of the things about the Canadian system that tripped me up when I finally got old enough to no longer be eligible for my parents' coverage. As near as I can tell, most physical health issues are covered, as I've gone into clinics to get rashes and the like examined with no significant charges. But dental treatment? You're basically footing the entire bill yourself, even if it's excruciating amounts of pain.
Ah, cosmetic surgery, that explains it. Still, wow, I didn't realize that teeth were so expensive since aside from a retainer I wore as a kid, I haven't had to have any major dental work done so far. Given those facts, I might just choose to live with my crooked teeth and jaw rather than get them corrected, especially since I'm not one for braces or retainers.
Couple that with the fact that dental careers have one of the highest suicide rates among professions and teeth become very serious business for all parties involved. :dface
Since there are still 10 days left, I'm still hoping that the total of the donations reaches at least $4000, even though I don't have anymore extra cash I can afford to give to it. I'm still curious as to whether it was a bunch of people or just a few rich ones that gave to Matilda's side.
Either way, I wish Amber luck dealing with the claw hand she'll get from drawing so many taurs. And I also hope she and Mason manage to get through and pay off all their massive dental debt within the year, hopefully before AnthroCon. :hug
But I still wish we could have some consolation for Mab's side that didn't involve much art, like a written explanation, or as someone else suggested, a Powerpoint presentation. I'd personally be happy with something similar to those clan leader letters, as a few of them offered great insight into the world mechanics. Perhaps it could be a letter/dissertation written by Mab, so to speak. ;)
Between this fundraiser, taxes coming back (we usually get about 1k back) and my husband planning to overtime it in February, we should be able to take a severe chunk out of it. May not be able to fully defeat it, but the payments will become far more manageable and we can then just chip away at it for the rest of the year. Mason and I tend to live pretty modest. Other than rent, phone/internet, food, bus tickets for travel, and a rabbit...that's about all our expenses. We've been cutting out a lot of frivolous spending like any eating out (Even those random stops into Starbucks/MCdonalds add up!) or impulse buying (going to a convenience store to buy a soda usually results in buying a couple other things, which add up as well! If we want soda, we can pick up some along with groceries and if we run out, then we gotta wait the week).
Granted who knows what the year holds and there is always the risk of getting blindsided by some event that will make things quite uneasy, but if that happens it happens and I'm not gonna fuss about a future event I have no control over. :U
I'd be surprised if anymore donations come in. I was surprised at how many came in in the first place. That said, I don't intend to leave the mab side fans high and dry. Because, I should have mentioned this, the universe rules are not only the ones that apply to DMFA, but to all my comic canons. And there are a couple stories I do have planned that don't even take place in DMFA that I intend to release into the future when I no longer am being a giant chicken-heart. So even if it doesn't get mentioned right away in this side story, it will get mentioned because it's pretty much intertwined in all of my projects in some way or another. XD
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 21, 2013, 02:31:29 PM
Between this fundraiser, taxes coming back (we usually get about 1k back) and my husband planning to overtime it in February, we should be able to take a severe chunk out of it. May not be able to fully defeat it, but the payments will become far more manageable and we can then just chip away at it for the rest of the year.
That's great to hear. I hope that everything works out, particularly when it comes you guys going to AnthroCon and Condition (Wasteland) and having a great time at both. :eager
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 21, 2013, 02:31:29 PM
Mason and I tend to live pretty modest. Other than rent, phone/internet, food, bus tickets for travel, and a rabbit...that's about all our expenses. We've been cutting out a lot of frivolous spending like any eating out (Even those random stops into Starbucks/MCdonalds add up!) or impulse buying (going to a convenience store to buy a soda usually results in buying a couple other things, which add up as well! If we want soda, we can pick up some along with groceries and if we run out, then we gotta wait the week).
It's the Mountain Dew that always gets me, especially when it's on sale for $1.00 per 2 liter bottle, and because I drink it instead of coffee.
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 21, 2013, 02:31:29 PM
I'd be surprised if anymore donations come in. I was surprised at how many came in in the first place. That said, I don't intend to leave the mab side fans high and dry. Because, I should have mentioned this, the universe rules are not only the ones that apply to DMFA, but to all my comic canons. And there are a couple stories I do have planned that don't even take place in DMFA that I intend to release into the future when I no longer am being a giant chicken-heart. So even if it doesn't get mentioned right away in this side story, it will get mentioned because it's pretty much intertwined in all of my projects in some way or another. XD
Do any of these stories involve Mikelo and/or some of the other characters we've seen on your Fur Affinity account?
Thankfully Anthrocon is a convention that pays for itself. I go because it is profitable to do so for me and I usually try to squirrel away part of the earnings to go into next year. Condition also has the advantage that is so local that with travel/hotel/food a non-issue, there is no financial reason for me not to. This year is special in that I was asked to be Guest o Honor for FAU (FurAffinity United) which is happening in New Jersey...so that will be a convention I'll be attending as well. c:
As for the other stories, the ones that involve Mikelo is indeed one. In a sense Mikelo's origin is actually tied (ever so very incredibly loosely) to the Fae backstory.
I have this horrible temptation to invite Amber out for tacos during Anthrocon, in order to secretly plumb the depths of her mind for secrets about the fae while she's in a taco-induced fugue. :P
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 21, 2013, 03:29:06 PM
As for the other stories, the ones that involve Mikelo is indeed one. In a sense Mikelo's origin is actually tied (ever so very incredibly loosely) to the Fae backstory.
Okay, now I'm really curious. If Mab would have won, would Mikelo have appeared in the resulting side story?
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 21, 2013, 03:53:52 PM
Okay, now I'm really curious. If Mab would have won, would Mikelo have appeared in the resulting side story?
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaybe (yes)
Perhaps Mikelo fans will now pour in some donations! :P
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 21, 2013, 03:55:34 PM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 21, 2013, 03:53:52 PM
Okay, now I'm really curious. If Mab would have won, would Mikelo have appeared in the resulting side story?
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaybe (yes)
It's a shame he didn't appear with Demon-Lord Kr'Thaknar on this page (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1328.php) like he did on this page (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_110.php). Or is it Demon-Lord Kr'Thacknar? The spelling is different between those two pages.
Quote from: Mischa on January 21, 2013, 04:02:24 PM
Perhaps Mikelo fans will now pour in some donations! :P
Considering the he's only appeared on this page (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_286.php) and the one above, I'm not sure if many of the more recent readers even know who he is, but I could be wrong, and I'm hoping I am, since I'd still like Mab to win. :P
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 21, 2013, 01:40:32 PM
Yeah. Woefully dental is not a thing covered by the the gov as its considered a cosmetic surgery...so most of the time it's up to the person to handle dental.
Bah. Crack a couple of government officials' molars and see how cosmetic
they think it is. :P
QuoteOkay, now I'm really curious. If Mab would have won, would Mikelo have appeared in the resulting side story?
Bah, Mikelo. Boko seems far more interesting. :P
Quote from: Wanderer on January 21, 2013, 04:29:55 PM
Bah, Mikelo. Boko seems far more interesting. :P
Eeeeeyup.
quick! someone donate $600 so that she will be super shocked and amazed by the jump to $5,000!
Quote from: Jasae Bushae on January 25, 2013, 12:25:06 AM
quick! someone donate $600 so that she will be super shocked and amazed by the jump to $5,000!
Matilda's side gained $370 and Mab's side gained $190 over the past 5 days for a total of $580, bringing the grand total to $4457. If this trend continues, the fundraiser total should hopefully hit and surpass $5000 in the next 7 days before its end. But even if it doesn't, either way I'm excited to see the final amounts for each side when it does end, as it's already raised over twice what the last side story war raised.
Yeaaah~ XD
is it because the comics gained more fans since the last one or people are more infatuated by the current options i wonder...
I wasn't going to donate (I have teethie problems too, damn root canals...) but Mikelo is to tempting to ignore. XD So I donated $20. I love that little turtle-dove. :boogie
Woo! Four days to go and the fundraiser is only $363 away from a grand total of $5000. Mab's side actually seems to be gaining, having increased by $120 over the past 1.5 days while Matilda only increased by $25, but unfortunately it seems like it's too little too late. But still, even though Mab isn't likely to win, I'm still hoping this Side Story War reaches $5000 before it ends. :eager
...so, anybody got $2,039 lying around?
pfffft XD
i wonder if we will ever see mab and matilda going on an adventure to explore the internet XD id donate for it XD
Hmm, I wonder if the Matilda story will have her fear of pancakes explained...
I was under the impression it was the syrup she had a problem with. She seems to have a phobia about things that are sticky.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1078.php huh, so this specifically mentions she had very little when she arrived...more reason to vote for matilda for me XD
I'm actually curious what Friday's image will be as it doesn't seem particularly wise to have one's business end pointed at the internet.
Quote from: littlekreen on January 31, 2013, 08:10:25 PM
I'm actually curious what Friday's image will be as it doesn't seem particularly wise to have one's business end pointed at the internet.
Furry bums? Well....Rule 34.
Quote from: Zebra Bug on February 01, 2013, 02:05:14 PM
Quote from: littlekreen on January 31, 2013, 08:10:25 PM
I'm actually curious what Friday's image will be as it doesn't seem particularly wise to have one's business end pointed at the internet.
Furry bums? Well....Rule 34.
You're half right, she only showed a bit of tail.
Quote from: Emerauld Drathmir on February 01, 2013, 06:48:50 PM
Quote from: Zebra Bug on February 01, 2013, 02:05:14 PM
Quote from: littlekreen on January 31, 2013, 08:10:25 PM
I'm actually curious what Friday's image will be as it doesn't seem particularly wise to have one's business end pointed at the internet.
Furry bums? Well....Rule 34.
You're half right, she only showed a bit of tail.
That is her best feature!
And so it ends, just $132 short of $5000. But hopefully it's still close to if not over 5/8 of the dental bill.
Also, since we're now sure Matilda is the winner, and we know that her background story will definitely involve gory violence (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1065.php), does this mean we'll get to see Rebma (http://www.mabsland.com/Pandas/Censor_Ma.gif) drawn in a disclaimer at the beginning of her story like how we saw Fa-Teen (http://www.mabsland.com/Pandas/Censor_14a.gif) drawn at the beginning disclaimer (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_02.php) of Abel's Story?
Considering we're probably going to see at least one page full of dramatic violence, blood, and maybe the ball part of one of Matilda's brother's ball-and-socket joints, I'd say her backstory warrants a mature rating and disclaimer. I'm actually looking forward to it now, and I can't wait to see Matilda being a total bad-ass. :eager
EDIT:
Quote from: Wanderer on January 21, 2013, 04:29:55 PM
Bah, Mikelo. Boko seems far more interesting. :P
I personally prefer Anthicus. He's even appeared in the comic once before (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_168.php), along with Mikelo. Also, that broom Mab had was really cool looking. Is there a picture of Mikelo using/wielding it? I could swear I've seen a picture of him with it before.
Oh, great, now they're in "Codename: Hunter"!
Cute. Now I wonder what Mab's reaction would be if they found their way to Michael Payne's Daily Grind.
(The fae there are giant spiders.)
Squeee~ :mwaha This is the funnest adventure ever!
I wonder where else they will end up XD
Well, we know that Abel HATE/loathes/fears spiders, but I don't know if Mab would have a problem with them (Dan didn't), and Matilda...I have no idea how'd she react. Try and sell them stuff maybe. :mowtongue
Quote from: Abel-needs-a-hug on February 04, 2013, 02:13:25 AM
Oh, great, now they're in "Codename: Hunter"!
Mab and Pip have been in Code Name: Hunter for a while now. (http://www.codenamehunter.com/archive/comic/2005/09/12)