Sneaking up on your demon boss, not the best idea. Also calling her Miss Kria rather than Miss Soulstealer probably didn't win her any points, probably something else for her 'dismissal' form.
Staff member infractions: Insubordination, invasion of personal space, spying and getting my name wrong
A bit hair-triggered aren't you, Kria?
So, she's sending someone to investigate Abel? Either she thinks that it might not really be him, or their relationship has kind of frayed...
EDIT: I wonder whether she'll remember what Devin said about Lorenda meeting a 'Cubi who claimed to have known him when he was alive.
Or she wants to discretely talk to him.
Quote from: Mao on November 12, 2012, 08:04:17 AM
Or she wants to discretely talk to him.
I thought of that, but I wasn't sure how sending a covert proxy would allow for that any better than, say, asking Lorenda to arrange some kind of meeting - Lorenda already being 'in on it' so far as the magazine is concerned.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2012, 07:20:48 AM
So, she's sending someone to investigate Abel? Either she thinks that it might not really be him, or their relationship has kind of frayed...
I guess it really depends on division 5 main profession. Each division could have different methods and places in the organization that Kria is in right now. Soldiers, recon, assassin's....Bean counters one thing we don't know right now is the orders she's going to send them out on.
Though her sending for stealth, then brains, does hint out that she doesn't want the target to know that they're there.
I like her spunk :3
Quote from: Drathorin on November 12, 2012, 10:15:23 AM
I like her spunk :3
Which shall be followed by a sudden "Splat"! >:3
Teach her to hang on the good drapes. :P
Whoa, I just saw something I can't believe I just caught. :O Looking carefully at panel 2, it looks like Stealth (for lack of a proper name) is 'phasing' into existence right then and there. My first thought was maybe 'teleportation?' but then I looked at panel 1--there's a transparency of Stealth right behind Kria.
That's why Kria went hair-trigger, Stealth was right there in Kria's office the whole time, for who knows HOW long!
I might have paranoia-fireball'd too. :B
Well, I guess you could call that...
a fire exit...
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on November 12, 2012, 11:34:46 AM
That's why Kria went hair-trigger, Stealth was right there in Kria's office the whole time, for who knows HOW long!
I went back and looked, and she doesn't appear to be there on the previous page.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 12, 2012, 02:11:53 PM
I went back and looked, and she doesn't appear to be there on the previous page.
That may only mean that she's higher up the curtain or even more invisible.
You can clearly see her tail in the first panel. It's transparent to some degree, but very present. In the second panel, actually, her tall is in much the same place and is about the same level of visibility.
Quote from: TacticalError on November 12, 2012, 01:22:25 PM
Well, I guess you could call that...
a fire exit...
*groan* Good one.
Ohhhh that looked delightfully painful...
No matter, just emphasizes the point, not to sneak up on Kira. Or you will be obliterated.
As show here, Abel doesn't necessarily respond that much better to surprises. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1176.php) My guess is that Kria wants somebody to quietly keep an eye on the inn and prevent further disturbances while she finds out what's going on. Kria may want to come over in disguise. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_756.php)
hm. I'm sure Miss Stealth is perfectly fine. yup. peeeeeerrrrrfectly ok now. no perma-deth for just doing her JOB. that would be wrong.
*twitch*
Demons like Kria generally don't have any qualms about killing. If someone dies, in their mind, they deserved it. Too weak. Thus, it being "wrong" to kill Stealth for surprising her isn't the case in Kria's mind.
Quote from: Eli_In_Chains on November 12, 2012, 06:30:53 PM
Demons like Kira generally don't have any qualms about killing. If someone dies, in their mind, they deserved it. Too weak. Thus, it being "wrong" to kill Stealth for surprising her isn't the case in Kira's mind.
Like she said eh, Get me the -smartest- of division 5. And a clean up.
Kria in particular has been known to kill for fun. Killing in a moment of confusion, brought on by the deceased's own lack of common sense, isn't going to weigh too heavily on her. Hell, this stiff probably wouldn't have fared much better pulling this on Lorenda.
Although, it does go back to her usual "bull in a china shop" methods under which I was expecting her to just call Lorenda with innuendo about her and her friend's common taste for [that of] incubi...
Quote from: chaotik74 on November 12, 2012, 06:06:53 PM
hm. I'm sure Miss Stealth is perfectly fine. yup. peeeeeerrrrrfectly ok now. no perma-deth for just doing her JOB. that would be wrong.
I'm pretty sure Kria didn't hire Stealth to spy on Kria. So... why was she lurking in the bosses office all day?
Particularly when the boss expects her to be somewhere else, as otherwise there would be no reason to ask Tee to find her...
Quote from: Eli_In_Chains on November 12, 2012, 06:30:53 PM
Demons like Kria generally don't have any qualms about killing. If someone dies, in their mind, they deserved it. Too weak. Thus, it being "wrong" to kill Stealth for surprising her isn't the case in Kria's mind.
Judging from the look on her face before going ballistic (the small pupils, the turned ears), I think it was more that Kria just didn't take kindly to being surprised..Think about it; what generally happens when you sneak up on a horse, let alone one that knows fire magic?
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2012, 08:11:19 AM
Quote from: Mao on November 12, 2012, 08:04:17 AM
Or she wants to discretely talk to him.
I thought of that, but I wasn't sure how sending a covert proxy would allow for that any better than, say, asking Lorenda to arrange some kind of meeting - Lorenda already being 'in on it' so far as the magazine is concerned.
The only reason I could think of for not asking Lorenda is
because she's apparently 'in on it'. More people will be keeping an eye on her, and maybe some of them have decided that it's more than an apparent love triangle, regardless of whether it's true.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 12, 2012, 10:09:30 PM
Quote from: chaotik74 on November 12, 2012, 06:06:53 PM
hm. I'm sure Miss Stealth is perfectly fine. yup. peeeeeerrrrrfectly ok now. no perma-deth for just doing her JOB. that would be wrong.
I'm pretty sure Kria didn't hire Stealth to spy on Kria. So... why was she lurking in the bosses office all day?
Particularly when the boss expects her to be somewhere else, as otherwise there would be no reason to ask Tee to find her...
That's a thing some sneaky folks have: despite the fact that their job revolves around not being seen, they have an overwhelming desire to show off just
how good they are at not being seen... thus requiring that someone see them in order to be impressed. Stealth would not be the first sneaky person to try to show that off by sitting around in her boss's office for a while unnoticed.
Quote from: D'ymkarra on November 12, 2012, 10:29:59 PM
Quote from: Eli_In_Chains on November 12, 2012, 06:30:53 PM
Demons like Kria generally don't have any qualms about killing. If someone dies, in their mind, they deserved it. Too weak. Thus, it being "wrong" to kill Stealth for surprising her isn't the case in Kria's mind.
Judging from the look on her face before going ballistic (the small pupils, the turned ears), I think it was more that Kria just didn't take kindly to being surprised..Think about it; what generally happens when you sneak up on a horse, let alone one that knows fire magic?
Not only that. But we also have to consider what type of job she's running.
She basically runs security for the whole city, I'm pretty sure that spying on your boss in that kind of business could carry as much as a death penalty depending on what went through her office that day.
Not to mention assassins might have tried to sneak up on her in much the same way. In her business, I could believe that when they say hostile takeover, they mean hostile.
I'm fascinated by just how many posts seem to be geared towards SUPPORTING Kria.
Well, I think we've already had the discussion about what counts as overkill/overly paranoid in a world where almost everything's trying to kill you...
I figured it was just accepted that Kria is a terrible individual with no qualms about killing...so with that universal constant in place it was simply more a matter of how many style points she racks up in the process. :U
Well, what would you have us do? She's a character we know and sympathize with, whereas Stealth is someone we don't know anything about. Other than, that is, her spying on one of the most powerful people in Zinvth and her boss, which no matter how you cut it is either stupid or ill-intentioned, quite possibly both.
Sure, Kria is something of a dick. But this is hardly her worst moment. It's just a story. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone on this forum who, knowing someone who murdered as casually as she does, would be anything other than terrified and repulsed. Fortunately, we don't have to like her as a person, because she isn't one. She is just a character. And as a character, I rather like her.
I guess it's just a bit jarring in the middle of a murder mystery to see someone casually blown up with (almost certainly) no repercussions.
Quote from: chaotik74 on November 13, 2012, 01:27:54 AM
I'm fascinated by just how many posts seem to be geared towards SUPPORTING Kria.
I just took it as black humour and ignored the societal aspect of it. That said, I can appreciate that people would root for Kria, given that we've seen her as a teacher before all of this, that we've seen her get protective over Abel and his mother (and even Devin). Someone who has a softer side like that will usually get more support than someone who's simply and entirely evil.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 13, 2012, 01:58:50 AM
I figured it was just accepted that Kria is a terrible individual with no qualms about killing...so with that universal constant in place it was simply more a matter of how many style points she racks up in the process. :U
Sooooo, Kria = Lord Frieza?
Which means... Dan = Goku! ... Which makes sense given their mutually compatible intellects... :giggle
I think it's more of people support the badass. .
I always seen some of the Demons as more of anti-hero or vigiliantes than evil.
In this world, maybe they're more of the neutrals or lawful evils.
In passing, I'd just like to comment that hasn't Ambaaargh gotten much better at buildings? I remember a castle a while back... ;-]
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 13, 2012, 03:41:48 AM
Quote from: chaotik74 on November 13, 2012, 01:27:54 AM
I'm fascinated by just how many posts seem to be geared towards SUPPORTING Kria.
I just took it as black humour and ignored the societal aspect of it. That said, I can appreciate that people would root for Kria, given that we've seen her as a teacher before all of this, that we've seen her get protective over Abel and his mother (and even Devin). Someone who has a softer side like that will usually get more support than someone who's simply and entirely evil.
Yeah, well, call me kooky, but any sympathy i had for her kind of evaporated when i learned about the whole "inclined to murder" thing. Kind of dilutes the awesome and puts her firmly in the "must smite..send sympathy cards to any family members" department.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 13, 2012, 02:30:29 PM
In passing, I'd just like to comment that hasn't Ambaaargh gotten much better at buildings? I remember a castle a while back... ;-]
The buildings are quite beautiful.
Though I'm also enjoying the detail work on the after effects in the last panel with Kria huffing in it. Blown and blackened window, burning drapes, dark smoke and Kria's flame ignited fist clenched in a rage.
If I didn't know better, I'd say Kria might be a little shaken with finding out about Abel being there. :U
Quote from: joshofspam on November 13, 2012, 03:07:09 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 13, 2012, 02:30:29 PM
In passing, I'd just like to comment that hasn't Ambaaargh gotten much better at buildings? I remember a castle a while back... ;-]
The buildings are quite beautiful.
Though I'm also enjoying the detail work on the after effects in the last panel with Kria huffing in it. Blown and blackened window, burning drapes, dark smoke and Kria's flame ignited fist clenched in a rage.
Agreed! And I really love the effect as Stealth phased into visibility. Even if it didn't end too well for her. ^_^;
Considering how long we've waited for Kria to find out that Abel's there, I'm itching to see what she's going to do about it!
maybe confront the utter moral hypocracy that is her existance.
Hmmm. Chaotik, I wouldn't say she's a hypocrite, since she has never claimed to be against casual murder. But even if she were, I have a feeling she wouldn't care. Evil, remember. :mowwink
Hmm.
You know, the more I look at our late spy, the more I wonder whether she was related to Hennya...
Quote from: chaotik74 on November 13, 2012, 03:12:20 PM
maybe confront the utter moral hypocracy that is her existance.
We get it, you don't like her. You don't seem to be swaying anybody here over to your side, though. You're certainly entitled to share your opinion, but as I said, keep in mind that she is just a character, just a concept, an idea. Not a real person. She isn't going to confront any moral side to her character because that's not in her nature. Demons as a whole believe in survival of the fittest. That includes Kria, and she seems to be one of the ones that has less of it than the others. See Abel's Story, for example. Most demons wouldn't mind killing a friend's son, as it would mean that they were weak/stupid/unlucky enough to deserve it. Kria refused on the basis that Abel wasn't a target. If she existed in our world, yes, absolutely, I agree with you. She would be a terrible person. As a character, coming from the race that she does, having the upbringing that she does, she isn't that bad a person. She's at least a step above a couple of the other demons.
And yes, the building is beautiful. <3
Now that you mention it, looking at the building then looking at the castle, the buildings have improved, good on ya Amber.
Kria is likely in a bad mood to start with if her spy/intelligence department didn't get this info to her before the tabloids did. So... VERY BAD idea to sneak up on the boss when you should be out in the field doing your job. So she simply.. "fired" them <.<
She seems similar in thinking to a bond type arch-villian. Minions especially stupid ones are expendable. If you mess with her don't expect to live long enough to regret it. When you're as powerful as Kria is though. It's probably harder to not obliterate fool's accidentily. Than to just not hold back and plaster 'em over the landscape.
I for one found this a delightful subversion of the tired old..
[Big Boss] "Send me my Ninja."
[Ninja] *poff* "I am already here."
[Big Boss] "Oooh, so impressed!"
..cliche. :mwaha
Didn't properly notice the phone stone before, looks like Zinvth has yet to embrace modern telecommunications, given that Kria was using a quill earlier that's to be expected.
Or maybe just Kria hasn't, rather than the whole of Zinvth.
Quote from: chaotik74 on November 12, 2012, 06:06:53 PM
hm. I'm sure Miss Stealth is perfectly fine. yup. peeeeeerrrrrfectly ok now. no perma-deth for just doing her JOB. that would be wrong.
*twitch*
I believe Miss Stealth just made what's generally termed a career-limiting move. Lifespan-limiting, even.
Quote from: chaotik74 on November 13, 2012, 03:12:20 PM
maybe confront the utter moral hypocracy that is her existance.
First of all, it's spelled hypocrisy. (Though hippocracy could be entertaining - or maybe not. After all, a grey-ish animal with a big mouth and thick skin already describes a lot of our present rulers well)
Second of all... I fail to find any of it particularly hypocritical. See, hypocrisy takes place when someone. usually publicly proclaims a stance that he either doesn't hold in general, or just exempts himself or who. Example would be a serial killer voicing against the death penalty because "killing is wrong" or a politician extolling the importance of family values and later being caught with a mistress (or a man, even). Kria does none of that as far as I'm aware of.
The other thing is that thinking of Kria in human terms and with human motives and social mores is perhaps misguided. The way I see it, 'Cubi seem to be rather closer to the human psyche, especially if brought up as Beings.
EDIT: For that matter, not all human societies share the same social mores...
Quote from: MT Hazard on November 14, 2012, 05:15:46 AM
Didn't properly notice the phone stone before, looks like Zinvth has yet to embrace modern telecommunications, given that Kria was using a quill earlier that's to be expected.
A communication rock would probably be more resistant to damage and such than a phone, unless it was covered in
MechArmor®, by Jycorp! or something.
Quote from: TacticalError on November 14, 2012, 03:06:24 PM
Quote from: MT Hazard on November 14, 2012, 05:15:46 AM
Didn't properly notice the phone stone before, looks like Zinvth has yet to embrace modern telecommunications, given that Kria was using a quill earlier that's to be expected.
A communication rock would probably be more resistant to damage and such than a phone, unless it was covered in MechArmor®, by Jycorp! or something.
One. Can I cover a tank in that?
and two. It probably would be slightly more resistant so its a better choice, considering who it belongs to, I mean really I'm pretty sure Kira is the only thing in existence that's more destructive than I am.
EDIT: on a secondary (or is it third?) note, TacticalError... your avatar is -really- distracting.
Well, it looks like Stealth's career is dead.
Quote from: Talis Mahn on November 14, 2012, 11:13:52 PM
Well, it looks like Stealth's career is dead.
...even if she isn't.
Don't look at me like that. She could very well have some form of fire resistance, and if she lands on a pedestrian she might suffer only a few dozen broken bones. >:3
Quote from: Starcat5 on November 14, 2012, 11:23:18 PM
Quote from: Talis Mahn on November 14, 2012, 11:13:52 PM
Well, it looks like Stealth's career is dead.
...even if she isn't.
Don't look at me like that. She could very well have some form of fire resistance, and if she lands on a pedestrian she might suffer only a few dozen broken bones. >:3
No argument! At this point, I'm unwilling to believe anyone is really most sincerely dead until they appear in Abel's Story. :mowcookie
I am reminded of a line from one of Isaac Asimov's stories.
At U.S. Robots and Mechanical Men, nobody makes the same mistake twice. They're fired the first time.
^ That seems appropriate.
In the end she was trying to show off, a little to much but still, so she got fire-balled for it... seems like a fair punishment.
Does anyone else think Stealth looks like she could be an Owona Cubi?
I'm not sure whether she would be one way or another, but she sure has bright green marks and glowing eyes.
Quote from: Infranscia on November 16, 2012, 03:05:52 AM
Does anyone else think Stealth looks like she could be an Owona Cubi?
I'm not sure whether she would be one way or another, but she sure has bright green marks and glowing eyes.
I heard she's a mythos.
Could have been both.
Quote from: Eli_In_Chains on November 13, 2012, 02:13:47 AM
Well, what would you have us do? She's a character we know and sympathize with, whereas Stealth is someone we don't know anything about.
I hope I'm not to late in saying this, but that just happens to be my favorite kind of character. Sad to say, (possibly in this case) killing them off like this makes me even more interested in them, I can't help but wonder who they were and what they were like owo
I liked Stealth, even if she had a screen time of about 8 seconds. Nothing wrong with loving your job and trying to impress your boss, right? ;w;
Quote from: MT Hazard on November 12, 2012, 06:02:38 AMAlso calling her Miss Kira ...
Quote from: MUDPUNISHER on November 12, 2012, 05:44:45 PMOhhhh that looked delightfully painful...
No matter, just emphasizes the point, not to sneak up on Kira. Or you will be obliterated.
And don't sneak up on
Kria either. :mowninja
Quote from: AmigaDragon on November 20, 2012, 03:48:48 AM
Quote from: MT Hazard on November 12, 2012, 06:02:38 AMAlso calling her Miss Kira ...
Quote from: MUDPUNISHER on November 12, 2012, 05:44:45 PMOhhhh that looked delightfully painful...
No matter, just emphasizes the point, not to sneak up on Kira. Or you will be obliterated.
And don't sneak up on Kria either. :mowninja
*Quietly corrects misspelling*
Kria is a Kira anyway.