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Title: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Gabi on January 29, 2011, 04:42:13 PM
Impersonating someone else is never easy, but certain details are quite obvious. I guess she was in auto pilot when she should have been thinking carefully.

What's on the table, by the way?
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Tapewolf on January 29, 2011, 04:53:27 PM
Quote from: Gabi on January 29, 2011, 04:42:13 PM
What's on the table, by the way?

Water.

EDIT:

Actually, warding the toilets as is done in SAIA etc. would have been a good way to weed out this kind of impersonation.  I had considered adding it to the story, but I couldn't really fit it in.
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Inumo on January 29, 2011, 05:05:11 PM
Oh, you meant bathroom by cloakroom... I thought you meant an actual cloakroom. Had me confused at first, mostly because I had conflicting beliefs (common sense saying bathroom, despite the atypical euphemism, Logic saying cloakroom).
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Tapewolf on January 29, 2011, 05:07:58 PM
Quote from: Inumo on January 29, 2011, 05:05:11 PM
Oh, you meant bathroom by cloakroom... I thought you meant an actual cloakroom. Had me confused at first, mostly because I had conflicting beliefs (common sense saying bathroom, despite the atypical euphemism, Logic saying cloakroom).

I can change it if necessary.  Last week I was tying myself in knots trying to remember what to call it that would work both in US and British English  :B
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Gabi on January 29, 2011, 05:12:17 PM
I'd never heard of a cloak room before (unless it's another name for wardrobe/checkroom), so I assume she was trying to use the bathroom without actually saying the word. Out of politeness or something.

Edit: I've just looked it up and it turns out cloakroom is a real word and it means what it sounded like. Well, I've learnt something new.
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Inumo on January 29, 2011, 05:14:15 PM
Quote from: Gabi on January 29, 2011, 05:12:17 PM
I'd never heard of a cloak room before (unless it's another name for wardrobe), so I assume she was trying to use the bathroom without actually saying the word. Out of politeness or something.
I Google'd it. It's the same thing as a coat check.

Quote from: Tapewolf on January 29, 2011, 05:07:58 PM
Quote from: Inumo on January 29, 2011, 05:05:11 PM
Oh, you meant bathroom by cloakroom... I thought you meant an actual cloakroom. Had me confused at first, mostly because I had conflicting beliefs (common sense saying bathroom, despite the atypical euphemism, Logic saying cloakroom).

I can change it if necessary.  Last week I was tying myself in knots trying to remember what to call it that would work both in US and British English  :B

Facilities, maybe?
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: AmberCross on January 29, 2011, 05:17:43 PM
Wait, what's this about SAIA having toilet warders? How do they work? Only thing I've ever seen with regards to warding for bathrooms in anything I've read was this one place that changed your gender if you went in the wrong one.
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Naldru on January 29, 2011, 05:40:14 PM
Actually, the term bathroom is not strictly appropriate because it isn't a place where you take a bath.  I remember being told in French class not to use "salle de bain" (literally bathroom) if I just wanted to wash my hands.

Some synonyms that I have seen are

lavatory
wash room
restroom
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Garsemor on January 29, 2011, 05:46:00 PM
Keaton made a fatal mistake, now she must pay the price.  :bat

Also I wish I could help whit Dark Angel but I'm only good when it comes to making colourless scenery, as soon as it's got arms, legs or a head the best I can do is a wobbly stick figure.
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Gabi on January 29, 2011, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: Naldru on January 29, 2011, 05:40:14 PM
Some synonyms that I have seen are

lavatory
wash room
restroom
One of my English teachers called it 'loo'.

And a guide in Jerusalem called it "where the king goes alone".

And I've heard some people call it "water closet".
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Tapewolf on January 29, 2011, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: AmberCross on January 29, 2011, 05:17:43 PM
Wait, what's this about SAIA having toilet warders? How do they work? Only thing I've ever seen with regards to warding for bathrooms in anything I've read was this one place that changed your gender if you went in the wrong one.

http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_549.php

...it forcibly prevents people entering unless they truly believe they are of that gender.

Quote from: Gabi on January 29, 2011, 05:12:17 PM
I'd never heard of a cloak room before (unless it's another name for wardrobe/checkroom), so I assume she was trying to use the bathroom without actually saying the word. Out of politeness or something.

Pretty much.  A cloakroom is literally a room where people hang their coats (or cloaks in earlier times).  However - typically in schools for younger children - it is often placed such that it leads to the toilets.  In my parents' house, the downstairs toilet is also the cloakroom - there is a rail on one wall where they are hung.

I might just call it 'toilets' or 'facilities', that should get the idea across in most variants of the language.


EDIT:
See if that's better.
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: AmberCross on January 29, 2011, 07:58:36 PM
Ah, I remember the scene with a bathroom, but did not recall anything about wards. I suppose it must have come up in the comic-related thread?
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: joshofspam on January 29, 2011, 08:35:27 PM
You know, some girls get all possessive with Barbies and my little ponies?

Seems like Keaton gets more possessive with her pawns. Though what she still wants with Joshua is debatable.

I know Keaton has a rather not so nice passed, but does Keaton see Joshua as a possession or a person and is their really a difference in this case?
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Madmann135 on January 29, 2011, 10:01:54 PM
Are all cubi as observant as Jakob or does he pay more attention out of habit?
That's twice where he pulled a batman gambit and won.
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 30, 2011, 06:24:16 AM
Quote from: Inumo on January 29, 2011, 05:14:15 PM
Quote from: Gabi on January 29, 2011, 05:12:17 PM
I'd never heard of a cloak room before (unless it's another name for wardrobe), so I assume she was trying to use the bathroom without actually saying the word. Out of politeness or something.
I Google'd it. It's the same thing as a coat check.

Technically, yes. However, in my perambulations about the globe, I have heard "cloakroom", "gents/ladies" "water-closet", "WC" (abbreviation for the previous, obviously), "toilet", "bathroom", "facilities", "loo", "little boys/girls room", "smallest room in the house", "little house" (no, really; translate the maori for bathroom, and that's what it literally translates to), "bog", "latrine", "convenience", "outhouse", "privy", "long drop"...

I could probably come up with some more. There's the french "vay-say", or, literally, VC; W is doub-leh vay, and they tend to drop the double bit. I think that's more of a repeat, though, of WC. A brief trawl of a thesaurus is likely to provide a fair few more...

That last one, though, "long drop", amused me and my siblings a lot when we were younger. I remember making a lego longdrop that was about a foot high. It would have been higher, but we'd used the rest of the pieces to build something else... I don't recall ever making a staircase up to reach it, though. It was just considered to be magically elevating or something. Man, that's going back a few years, now, though - the lego I was building with didn't have all these fancy schmancy different parts, you just had your basic four by one full height block. These days there's all sorts of weird blocks you get, and the lego itself is much more limiting on the imagination, IMHO.


... What are you kids doing on my lawn! ;-]
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Tapewolf on January 30, 2011, 07:51:31 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on January 29, 2011, 10:01:54 PM
Are all cubi as observant as Jakob or does he pay more attention out of habit?
That's twice where he pulled a batman gambit and won.

Let's just say I enjoyed the 'Caves of Steel' series.  I will say this, mind: Pride before a fall.

EDIT: And for those collecting euphemisms for toilet, "Granny's Greenhouse" is another, though it usually refers to an outside one.  However, I eventually went for "Facilities" for Ashford (Formal mannerism) and 'Loo' for Jakob (colloquial mannerism).  Since he also refers to the 'ladies' I figure most people will be able to work that one out.
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: joshofspam on January 30, 2011, 03:22:52 PM
I wonder if Jakob will call Keaton out with that cut the crap line?

I mean this is a lot of effort just to get back an agent when she wants Jakob's weapons so bad she can taste her charred enemies flesh. There's got to be more to this than Joshua than what we see.
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Tapewolf on February 07, 2011, 08:46:10 AM
If I don't hear from Ren by tonight I'll put up some filler or something.  I could probably put something together from existing art, but it would look half-assed at best.

FWIW, this page is mostly negotiation between Jakob, Josh and Keaton.
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Ren Gaulen on February 08, 2011, 04:41:12 PM
I apologise for my disappearance and the comic delay. My modem died, and I had trouble getting a new one, being stuck with no internet connection until now. :c But now I'm back, with internet access again, and all is right in the world. c:
Title: Re: 29/01/2010 [PF# 155] She didn't think things through very well
Post by: Tapewolf on February 09, 2011, 05:12:15 PM
Okay, we're up.  Thanks to Basilisk for the title.