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Title: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: Tapewolf on December 27, 2010, 05:53:12 AM
Looks more like Dan's approach to new things than Abel's.  Jy I can understand because he's been around Dan a lot.

In any case, this should be interesting and kind of awkward (Well, one day my uncle was trying to raise an army of undead fiends y'see...)

EDIT:
Also,  hope Amber hasn't tried to get back into things too soon...
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2010, 06:44:14 AM
Note also that Devin has been around for a lot longer than 40 years. So.... tracking his history back is going to be tricky.
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: Sid on December 27, 2010, 07:18:09 AM
Good to see that I'm not the only one who was reminded of Dan's approach to these things (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_507.php).
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on December 27, 2010, 09:53:18 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2010, 06:44:14 AM
Note also that Devin has been around for a lot longer than 40 years. So.... tracking his history back is going to be tricky.


hmmm, I'm not so sure. What we know for certain is that Devin *died* roughly 375 years before the present comic, so either one of two things happened, although both are odd.

Idea #1. Kria/DP animate Devin right away, realize a few things are wrong, and DP takes a few centuries to perfect his technique. Odd, because it would be weird to only have one prototype in a project like this.


Idea#2, assuming you need a body around when you raise them as undead, Kria kept the body for roughly 300 somethingish years and then animated it when DP was making the rest of the undead. Creepy.


Actually, as I'm writing this, a third, simplest idea occurs, and that is simply that Jyrras is wrong in his statement that Undead have only been around for 40 years, although currently I don't see enough data to make a definitive statement why he'd be under a mistaken impression.


Or which theory is the closest to being accurate. Any  case outside of "Jyrras is just wrong" though, leaves some interesting unrevealed drama centered around Devin, so I'd put money on whichever one Amber finds the creepiest/most awkward.
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: joshofspam on December 27, 2010, 10:01:36 AM
Strangely enough Dan's style of fighting came in as the second thought to this. My first thought was Simon Belmont. What? Vampires are undead too.

Though getting my mixed up mind aside, I'm guessing that this might be Lorenda's first exposure to adventurer tactics. I'm guessing that she has rarely had to deal with the negative side of some adventurers or maybe among other forms of stupidity they might be the ones that set of one of her uncommon rampages.

Keep it slow and steady Amber. Get more rest if you need it.


Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: Tapewolf on December 27, 2010, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on December 27, 2010, 09:53:18 AM
Idea #1. Kria/DP animate Devin right away, realize a few things are wrong, and DP takes a few centuries to perfect his technique. Odd, because it would be weird to only have one prototype in a project like this.

I understood it (from Devin's original cast page, IIRC) that he was just a zombie until about 40 years ago when he suddenly became self-aware, but quite possibly with a different/brand new soul.  From what I recall, most people who had zombie servants destroyed them when they became sentient, but Kria protected Devin for her own reasons.
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: lilpuppy23 on December 27, 2010, 01:56:57 PM
You also need a shotgun :D
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: terrycloth on December 27, 2010, 03:24:06 PM
You mean an area-effect seed-launcher.
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2010, 03:54:13 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 27, 2010, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on December 27, 2010, 09:53:18 AM
Idea #1. Kria/DP animate Devin right away, realize a few things are wrong, and DP takes a few centuries to perfect his technique. Odd, because it would be weird to only have one prototype in a project like this.

I understood it (from Devin's original cast page, IIRC) that he was just a zombie until about 40 years ago when he suddenly became self-aware, but quite possibly with a different/brand new soul.  From what I recall, most people who had zombie servants destroyed them when they became sentient, but Kria protected Devin for her own reasons.

Secondary information to mess with this is the Demonology (http://missmab.com/Demo/undead.php) page on the Undead, which suggests that (under Strengths) they've only been around for a couple of hundred years. Which makes for an interesting timeline.
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: Starcat5 on December 27, 2010, 04:48:37 PM
Considering that Devin is the fifth oldest surviving Undead, DP could have been just started perfecting his "Undead Servant" spell around the time of Devin's death. Hence the "Few hundred years" part. Additionally, Rachel-Rebecca the Third died 34 years ago. (Not quite 40.) She was brought back from the dead by DP's spectacularly botched "Raise Undead Army" spell. The same spell which gave the existing Undead back their free will.

...I had a point to this post, but now I can't remember where I was going with it. As such, I'll just sign off by saying "Is anyone ELSE out there wondering what a Zombie Apocalypse would look like on Furrae?" Glowy-eyed non-rotting Undead, fighting off hordes of flesh eating rotting corpses, and really REALLY worried about the PR fallout over the whole thing. Anyone with talent (Read: Not me!) want to try their hands at writing a fanfic on the subject?
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: Alondro on December 27, 2010, 05:06:05 PM
*Charles gasps as he realizes the truth!*  DP is actually Orochimaru's newest body and he has perfected Impure World Resurrection!!!   Which means someone was sacrificed to bring Devin back!  And we already know DP likes to sacrifice people all the time, so it MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!!   D:

Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: Foxxy on December 27, 2010, 06:19:05 PM
Looks like Abel and Jy have been playing too many zombie games :U (that is of course if video gaming exists in furrae)  :mowdizzy

On another note, I wonder what will happen when Dan, Dev, Lorenda, and now possibly Abel go to the Dinner date. Meheh.....Does anyone else smell Ebil destruction and chaos? ....Especialy factoring in Regina. Party crash anyone?  :zombiekun2
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: Unsilenced on December 27, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
...

They have Night of the Living Dead...

in a world where the living dead actually exist...

...

Doesn't that make it...

racist?
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2010, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: Unsilenced on December 27, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
racist?

Species-ist, maybe. Racist, no.
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: Unsilenced on December 27, 2010, 09:36:49 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2010, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: Unsilenced on December 27, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
racist?

Species-ist, maybe. Racist, no.

Undead isn't a species... or... wait...

*thinks about this*

Two organisms are considered to be of a different species when they cannot produce fertile offspring. A human and a zombie can... err... "produce" another zombie, which can in turn produce more zombies. From this we can conclude that zombies and humans are the same species.

But two zombies cannot produce a zombie, just like two human males or two human females. Thus we conclude that "zombie" is a gender, and thus Night of the Living Dead is extremely sexist.
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: Talis Mahn on December 27, 2010, 10:53:56 PM
Quote from: Sid on December 27, 2010, 07:18:09 AM
Good to see that I'm not the only one who was reminded of Dan's approach to these things (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_507.php).

Also:  Double tap!

Recall that Dan has had friendly contact with the  undead before.    http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_882.php  (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_882.php)
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: joshofspam on December 27, 2010, 11:04:13 PM
Quote from: Talis Mahn on December 27, 2010, 10:53:56 PM
Quote from: Sid on December 27, 2010, 07:18:09 AM
Good to see that I'm not the only one who was reminded of Dan's approach to these things (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_507.php).

Also:  Double tap!

Recall that Dan has had friendly contact with the  undead before.    http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_882.php  (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_882.php)

This one also showed how friendly they can be. http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_884.php  :)

Though these two show that in some cases its a learning experience. http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_904.php http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_905.php

Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: Anker Steadfast on December 27, 2010, 11:11:02 PM
Definately aim for the head, or blow them into little pieces - That works too. :)
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: Shachza on December 28, 2010, 12:24:34 AM
Quote from: Unsilenced on December 27, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
Doesn't that make it...

racist?

If the cartoon Ugly Americans is anything to go by, then yes it is.

Quote from: Anker Steadfast on December 27, 2010, 11:11:02 PM
Definately aim for the head, or blow them into little pieces - That works too. :)

Just light them all on fire.  "Stop, Drop, and Roll" is no longer in their vocabulary, so it works really well.
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 28, 2010, 08:56:06 AM
Quote from: Unsilenced on December 27, 2010, 09:36:49 PM
But two zombies cannot produce a zombie, just like two human males or two human females. Thus we conclude that "zombie" is a gender, and thus Night of the Living Dead is extremely sexist.

You crack me up, you really do. *grin*
Title: Re: 27/12/2010 [DMFA# 1180] - Adventurer-style education
Post by: RobbieThe1st on December 30, 2010, 01:32:17 AM
After re-reading, I have this feeling that there are zombie movies in Furrae. If so, there could easily be a catch-phrase "aim for the head", which would make a lot of sense in this context.