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Title: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on December 05, 2010, 01:33:30 AM
Well this was a nice little update :)

Gotta give Abel credit for being efficient. Waste not want not :3
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Captain on December 05, 2010, 01:42:44 AM
The string is your friend.

note: this thread is confusing.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on December 05, 2010, 01:58:03 AM
Quote from: Captain on December 05, 2010, 01:42:44 AM
The string is your friend.
I agree, and so does my cat.

How is it confusing though?
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Inumo on December 05, 2010, 02:25:43 AM
Methinks 'twas but a joke, considering thread is another name for string.

So, 100% natural items would probably be as hard to morph as maybe 0-15% natural, considering his expression with the difficulty?
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Arroyo Milori on December 05, 2010, 02:36:08 AM
Quote from: Captain on December 05, 2010, 01:42:44 AM
The string is your friend.

note: this thread is confusing.
Its confusing cause its made of Jyrras' hair. : P

But still that's a rather interesting snippet of information Jyrras explained.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: rabid_fox on December 05, 2010, 02:50:08 AM

Abel is flipping adorable lately.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: AmberCross on December 05, 2010, 02:52:28 AM
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on December 05, 2010, 02:36:08 AM
Quote from: Captain on December 05, 2010, 01:42:44 AM
The string is your friend.

note: this thread is confusing.
Its confusing cause its made of Jyrras' hair. : P

But still that's a rather interesting snippet of information Jyrras explained.
Boy, you sure cut right to the point don't you?

Anyway, wondering how long it will take for this info to be incorperated into numerous other spinoff comics, stories, RPs, etc.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: blindguy on December 05, 2010, 03:20:39 AM
Quote from: AmberCross on December 05, 2010, 02:52:28 AM
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on December 05, 2010, 02:36:08 AM
Quote from: Captain on December 05, 2010, 01:42:44 AM
The string is your friend.

note: this thread is confusing.
Its confusing cause its made of Jyrras' hair. : P

But still that's a rather interesting snippet of information Jyrras explained.
Boy, you sure cut right to the point don't you?

Anyway, wondering how long it will take for this info to be incorperated into numerous other spinoff comics, stories, RPs, etc.

Never actually commented in forums before but i have to say, this particular string of comments has me in stitches.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Nino on December 05, 2010, 03:49:30 AM
Hmmm, so... something that's never been exposed to magic might need a large initial amount of magic to become malleable to it, but the more magic that's applied after the initial amount starts to slowly increases the resistance.

This makes me think of a law of physics but I can't think which. Either way, it's tough to wrap my head around the idea without an explanation of why magic behaves in such a manner here.

I almost wonder if a 100% natural item is completely resistant to magical interference, but then I'd think that magic wouldn't have an effect on anything since every object ostensibly started out as 100% natural at least at one point in time.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Anker Steadfast on December 05, 2010, 04:31:48 AM
Sort of like the last 10% of a project, often takes 90% of the work.


But it also sounds a bit like basic thermodynamic.

A very cold metal object absorbs a lot of heat before it becomes mallable.
And a very warm metal object requires high degrees of heat to make it any hotter.

Basically, if you have a metal bar that is already 100 degree celcius warm, you will still need roughly the same fuel to make it hot enough to make it mallable as you would a metal bar that is very cold. Though the cold bar may take a little longer to warm up, it's not going to make a big change in fuel consumption.

It's not a perfect fit, but it's somewhat similar at least.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: AmberCross on December 05, 2010, 04:36:04 AM
Quote from: blindguy on December 05, 2010, 03:20:39 AM
Quote from: AmberCross on December 05, 2010, 02:52:28 AM
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on December 05, 2010, 02:36:08 AM
Quote from: Captain on December 05, 2010, 01:42:44 AM
The string is your friend.

note: this thread is confusing.
Its confusing cause its made of Jyrras' hair. : P

But still that's a rather interesting snippet of information Jyrras explained.
Boy, you sure cut right to the point don't you?

Anyway, wondering how long it will take for this info to be incorperated into numerous other spinoff comics, stories, RPs, etc.

Never actually commented in forums before but i have to say, this particular string of comments has me in stitches.
Sew this is your first post ever? Cool to know I inspired it ^.^

Also in DMFA-land, people can make things out of magic too. But for the most part I imagine that this may refer to magic manipulation such as keeping a blade at a certain temperature when you forge it. It seems to be the direct type magic that has trouble like turning it into something else than say bending them out of shape.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Tapewolf on December 05, 2010, 05:35:21 AM
Quote from: blindguy on December 05, 2010, 03:20:39 AM
Never actually commented in forums before but i have to say, this particular string of comments has me in stitches.

Welcome aboard, have fun, don't forget to read the rules and stuff  :3
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Kipiru on December 05, 2010, 08:59:53 AM
Does this mean you can make dental floss out of nosehairs, cause that would be a new level of gross  :U
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Kittastrophe on December 05, 2010, 10:06:29 AM
I wonder how much magic was in Jyrras' hair. : P
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Jasonrevall on December 05, 2010, 10:22:01 AM
The same way one man's trash is another man's treasure, something you consider weird may not be from another man's POV.

Quote from: rabid_fox on December 05, 2010, 02:50:08 AM

Abel is flipping adorable lately.

I must agree, he has been rather adorable since he came to Jy-jy's.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Baal Hadad on December 05, 2010, 10:27:35 AM
Quote from: Jasonrevall on December 05, 2010, 10:22:01 AM
The same way one man's trash is another man's treasure, something you consider weird may not be from another man's POV.

Quote from: rabid_fox on December 05, 2010, 02:50:08 AM

Abel is flipping adorable lately.

I must agree, he has been rather adorable since he came to Jy-jy's.

Abel does look cute in this update!  And he's STILL learning about the outside world, and he's STILL efficient with things.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: AmberCross on December 05, 2010, 11:59:40 AM
Actually to be honest, I am finding Jyras to be far more adorable, both currently and with relation to previous looks. His hair, his glasses, and his clothes were all a carefully crafted image to be less adorable and now he doesn't have any of the above and he just looks so darned cute.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Angel on December 05, 2010, 12:54:02 PM
Before I say anything else, I just want to say that Jyrras's eyes are really cute.

As for Abel's use of hair, I think it's really creative and efficient as well. Though I would have thought he'd be slightly more interested in playing with it than spooling it. I mean, it smells like a rodent and it's string. Come on. (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_649.php)
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: icarus on December 05, 2010, 01:00:33 PM
does that mean that magic-resistant items like dan's robe are made out of natural fibres? makes you wonder.

i really like how amber's applying different facial structures to all the characters now, it really brings out the different facets of their personalities. abel seems the 'prettyboy' he was intended to be now vs dan's broski build.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: CoyoteCaliente on December 05, 2010, 01:16:29 PM
Heeeeey Icarus. Didn't know you were on here.

And I agree. Everyone's shape is evening out and becoming more like their character., and the expressions are becoming easier to read.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Scrap Fish on December 05, 2010, 01:34:13 PM
Quote from: Kittastrophe on December 05, 2010, 10:06:29 AM
I wonder how much magic was in Jyrras' hair. : P
That's exactly what I was wondering... If 100% natural is hard to work with, then how could Abel form all the hairs into a continuous strand? (This is assuming he didn't, like, tie every single hair together.) My assumption is that beings can pick up magicality like a background radiation... (This wouldn't be as big a deal with creatures, as they are inherently magical.) With Jyrras constantly working with equipment that may be more or less magical, or uses highly concentrated magic, it's quite possible he has absorbed a decent amount of magical energy.
Makes me wonder, is there a creature that is inherrently anti-magical? That has a magic value of absolute zero? Would mean that it basically that they turn into a magical black hole...
*speculation*
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: icarus on December 05, 2010, 01:36:41 PM
i log on ocassionally.

jy's hair may be slightly magical. his family is for the most part 'realisticly' coloured which i believe amber said is a sign that less magic has bleed into the lines. the most erratic colours his siblings have are reds and yellows, and there are red heads and blondes naturally soooo
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: lilpuppy23 on December 05, 2010, 02:15:04 PM
I wonder where Abel got the spool from?

They're made of wood, and I don't know if Jyrras has random wood lying around, though the more modern ones are made of compressed paper pulp so maybe Abel just used paper?
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Shachza on December 05, 2010, 03:26:49 PM
A part of it could also be the purity.  I could see Jyrras having paperclips with a very high purity of aluminum.  Hair however, is composed of a lot of different things.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Infranscia on December 05, 2010, 04:55:37 PM
My thought on how natural things are before forged: Just because something isn't made of magic, doesn't mean that something hasn't been exposed to magic, and thus slightly imbued with it.  Also, this comic suggests that Creatures and Beings may have more-or-less been relying on magic to make things from raw materials, thus leaving residues behind after construction.  Probably what Matilda was referring to in comic 644 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_644.php).

Hmm... Maybe this is also why Abel's wards (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1163.php) didn't work?  Maybe most of Jyrrus house is made of natural materials?

Scrap Fish: This Creature (http://missmab.com/Demo/were.php) is completely anti-magic in one of its forms.  :mowwink

Lilpuppy23: Maybe Abel made the spool from a piece of the boxes and chests (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1159.php) that Jyrrus leaves around?  Or something similar?
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Tapewolf on December 05, 2010, 06:43:41 PM
Is it just me, or does Abel's art upgrade make him look younger?
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Nikki on December 05, 2010, 07:17:51 PM
...String?

Really?

I...I don't even...Wow, here I was...actually...thinking Abel might weave it into some sort of mini-basket  :U
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Drayco84 on December 05, 2010, 07:54:28 PM
Quote from: Shachza on December 05, 2010, 03:26:49 PM
A part of it could also be the purity.  I could see Jyrras having paperclips with a very high purity of aluminum.  Hair however, is composed of a lot of different things.
IIRC, it's mostly keratin, a type of protein. And second, most paperclips are made of steel.

Third... I have this mental image of Abel wearing a certain outfit (http://th05.deviantart.com/fs7/300W/i/2005/216/a/b/Edward_Elric_by_Kalleder.jpg), clapping his hands together, and shouting TRANSMUTE...
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: joshofspam on December 05, 2010, 08:51:34 PM
Well tech made by Jy might have quite a bit of effect in use against races that use magic.

Wonder if 100 Percent would allow you to use armor that would let you go toe too toe with a Dragon or a Fey?

I can't help but think we've just been told something important. Will Jyrras become Iron Rat? :U
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: SomeUnregPunk on December 05, 2010, 08:55:29 PM
If you can make string from the fur of these creatures then what would happen if you shaved a Mow?

We got rabbit wool made from German angoras. So... if you took a bunch of mows and shaved them all... would you get purple string and naked kirby or would you find it was made of nothing other than fur, wings and a tonque.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: AmberCross on December 05, 2010, 09:19:30 PM
If mows were that easy to kill, someone would have done it by now. As is, they seem to be indestructible.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Alondro on December 06, 2010, 01:18:26 AM
Abel can transmutate objects... his best friend is an undead robot-cyborg thingee... his father left home (though for reasons of evil), mother died of terminal illness, he's deep in emotional trauma.  Yes!  It's still close enough for Full Metal Alchemist spoof time!   :boogie

Let's see, DP could be Father, secretly holding all knowledge of alchemy...

Kria could be... Lust!  Yes! 

*Charles works happily on his parody... for about 10 minutes until he gets too tired and gives up.  He's very laze these days.*   :sleep
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Nino on December 06, 2010, 01:38:40 AM
Quote from: Alondro on December 06, 2010, 01:18:26 AM
Abel can transmutate objects... his best friend is an undead robot-cyborg thingee... his father left home (though for reasons of evil), mother died of terminal illness, he's deep in emotional trauma.  Yes!  It's still close enough for Full Metal Alchemist spoof time!   :boogie

it's a bit of a stretch saying Devin and Abel are best friends, and I thought his mother died more of old age than illness, but otherwise, interesting comparison.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Scrap Fish on December 06, 2010, 07:57:17 AM
Quote from: joshofspam on December 05, 2010, 08:51:34 PM
Well tech made by Jy might have quite a bit of effect in use against races that use magic.

Wonder if 100 Percent would allow you to use armor that would let you go toe too toe with a Dragon or a Fey?

I can't help but think we've just been told something important. Will Jyrras become Iron Rat? :U
I don't think so. As we learned today, magic transferrs extremely easily, and is hard to get rid of. So your +3 anti-magic plate would quickly devalue without a way to maintain it's anti-magicness. Better just to go Dan's way and imbue armor with magic deflection wards.
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Caswin on December 06, 2010, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: AmberCross on December 05, 2010, 11:59:40 AM
Actually to be honest, I am finding Jyras to be far more adorable, both currently and with relation to previous looks. His hair, his glasses, and his clothes were all a carefully crafted image to be less adorable and now he doesn't have any of the above and he just looks so darned cute.
Quote from: Black_angel on December 05, 2010, 12:54:02 PM
Before I say anything else, I just want to say that Jyrras's eyes are really cute.
I was just looking around to see if I was the first to comment -- Jyrras appears to have become Even Cuter, and it isn't just the hair.

Look at those eyes. (http://www.missmab.com/Cast/jyrras.php)  Why do I get the feeling something awful is going to happen to him? :<
Title: Re: 12/05/2010 [DMFA# 1172] - Making Use of Everything
Post by: Alondro on December 07, 2010, 02:45:25 PM
Quote from: Caswin on December 06, 2010, 06:57:50 PMWhy do I get the feeling something awful is going to happen to him? :<

*Charline de Lyon grins*  Because Amber likes making her fans cry.   >:3