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Title: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Tapewolf on November 23, 2010, 04:52:01 AM
Interesting conversation there.  Looks like Wildy is up for an arranged marriage.  Interesting too that they are talking about her father in the present tense - Wildy's comments on page 89 had left me with the impression he'd passed on.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: NykVerien on November 23, 2010, 05:17:55 AM
WT!! Wildy in an arraigned marriage!?!  I kind of feel sorry for the guys that her Dad picked for her to "try out". Kind of...
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: 127.0.0.2 on November 23, 2010, 05:51:38 AM
Yeah, that came unexpected. o.o
It's also notable how Wildy seems to have no problems at all with any of that. After the "Yeah, Creatures eat Beings. So what?" issue that's the second time Furrae's culture seems to be different from ours. I find that an interesting turn and I'm looking forward to see where that is leading.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Mao on November 23, 2010, 06:15:13 AM
Uh, arranged marriages still exist in our (I'm assuming you mean human) culture.  Just sayin'.  As for Wildy being in one and being calm about it?  She probably could have raged about it, but if her father is anything like her, it'd be like trying to push an immovable object about.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: MT Hazard on November 23, 2010, 06:19:35 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 23, 2010, 04:52:01 AM
Interesting conversation there.  Looks like Wildy is up for an arranged marriage.  Interesting too that they are talking about her father in the present tense - Wildy's comments on page 89 had left me with the impression he'd passed on.

I though she was talking about (only) her mother dying, the only time she mentioned her dad was after the mallet retrieval story.

mother mentioned   (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1158.php)

father mentioned (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_089.php)

To me it suggests he is alive, just that he doesn't know about bigg's empire.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: 127.0.0.2 on November 23, 2010, 07:09:40 AM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on November 23, 2010, 06:15:13 AM
Uh, arranged marriages still exist in our (I'm assuming you mean human) culture.  Just sayin'.
I was more talking about western culture. (Because most other things in the comic seem to come from a western background and, come on, it's probably the dominant culture with 90% of the people around here* ;) )
Sure, arranged marriages exist here, too. I'd still like to see your reaction if a close friend of yours casually explains that he/she will be involved in one.

(* based on the highly representative "me glancing over the forum" method of data collection...)

Quote from: Mao Laoren on November 23, 2010, 06:15:13 AM
As for Wildy being in one and being calm about it?  She probably could have raged about it, but if her father is anything like her, it'd be like trying to push an immovable object about.
This is still Wildy, the one person that probably could push an immoveable object about.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Jasonrevall on November 23, 2010, 09:04:20 AM
I never thought of Wildy being the type to want to settle down, but there you go. Also before anyone tells me "It's not really her choice", if Wildy really didn't want to do something I believe she wouldn't do it.

I like Wildy's shield spell. I am particularly fond of defensive spells.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Madmann135 on November 23, 2010, 10:11:59 AM
If the third date is a fight between Dan and her suitor what are dates one and two.  I can vaguely see that conversation now... in a fighting ring.

Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: joshofspam on November 23, 2010, 11:05:25 AM
Wonder id Wildy was capable with magic even before becoming a Shaman.

With Wildy's family makes me wonder if this is more a political move or an over concerned father? The comments "Father would be proud" and the magic Willy is pulling of here makes me wonder if daddy dear is quite a well known person or even a being?

Wonder if the wing fascination fits in to this? Just how many of her potential suitors have wings or have a human form? >:3
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Naldru on November 23, 2010, 11:38:44 AM
I have this vision of Wildy's father showing up and looking and sounding like Marlon Brando in The Godfather.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: CoyoteCaliente on November 23, 2010, 11:40:59 AM
*Settles down to check comic updates. Is content. :3

*Sees that DMFA has updates. Is excited.  :eager

*Reads first line:

"...Shouldn't there be wedding bells for you soon?"

* :erk

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Annnnnd that was my reaction of this comic. But then I realized that this scenario was in a comic that has winged kitty-incubus that is going on a date with the niece of someone who he's killed several times, while dating a three eyes Mythos that burps blue fire...

And then it suddenly seemed pretty normal.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Valynth on November 23, 2010, 12:38:36 PM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on November 23, 2010, 06:15:13 AM
Uh, arranged marriages still exist in our (I'm assuming you mean human) culture.  Just sayin'.  As for Wildy being in one and being calm about it?  She probably could have raged about it, but if her father is anything like her, it'd be like trying to push an immovable object about.

So it'd be like if you sat two lead bricks together?

In any case, yes arranged marriages are still happening in human culture, but it's no where near as strict or as common as it used to be.

And yes, it happens in western culture too, though it's more along the lines of Wildy's assumed situation of parents gathering a pool or suitors and letting their offspring choose.  Just watch some of the lesser known, but still wealthy or traditional families and you see this quite a bit.

The only real difference is that at least in the west, it's impossible for the family power structure to demand a marriage of any of it's members without that individual's consent, though some cultures (particularly those found in the Middle East) still have legally binding arranged marriages.  Here in the west all they can do is guilt you over it.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: terrycloth on November 23, 2010, 12:42:36 PM
It doesn't really sound like they're doing more than guilting Wildy over it. And it's important that ferrets find a mate because otherwise they overdose on hormones and *die*! Well, maybe not ferrets in Furrae. n.n

Apparently Biggs gets to choose his own wife because he ran away from home to start his own empire of evil instead of taking over the family empire of evil.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Alondro on November 23, 2010, 12:48:40 PM
Dan's sword, save for the hilt guard, looks quite similar to Zangetsu! 

Sooo... Danuyasha releases his Bankai while his half-Cubi side takes over, ascending him mysteriously to tri-wing status and defeats DP with Falcon Punch?  XD
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Inumo on November 23, 2010, 12:54:50 PM
Yes, because more animu is necessary. XD

I like the magic attacks Wildy's demonstrating, though it seems odd that you could block a line of ice, which is sprouting from the ground, with a block as if you were blocking a low attack. I'd think you'd need to somehow block it at its source, the ground...
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Gamma on November 23, 2010, 12:59:47 PM
Quote from: terrycloth on November 23, 2010, 12:42:36 PM
Apparently Biggs gets to choose his own wife because he ran away from home to start his own empire of evil instead of taking over the family empire of evil.
That's probably more related to him being male rather then anything to do with his power, but who knows.

Since their father doesn't know of Biggs accomplishments I would assume he may also believe him dead. There are many good reasons to be believed to be dead, especially with so many powerful entities in that universe.

Wildy's marriage may also be to ensure a certain race keeps a low profile. Known allies or other members of such a reclusive race would be the only safe bets for any relationships. Lest it be found out then the whole family is exposed. When the enemy then gets hold of the family tree, they can burn it to the ground...
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: lilpuppy23 on November 23, 2010, 04:20:39 PM
Wildy's getting married?! When??!!  :disbelief
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Daymond42 on November 23, 2010, 04:46:49 PM
I must say, I'm quite partial to the dramatic and awesome stance of Dan in the second panel. Quite dynamic!
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Scrap Fish on November 23, 2010, 05:32:07 PM
This has so far been one of the most interesting reads I've seen for awhile on the interwebs. Kudos.

Quote from: CoyoteCaliente on November 23, 2010, 11:40:59 AM
*Settles down to check comic updates. Is content. :3

*Sees that DMFA has updates. Is excited.  :eager

*Reads first line:

"...Shouldn't there be wedding bells for you soon?"

* :erk
Yeah, pretty much. And when you think about it, it doesn't seem weird at all. Ah, the powers of context.
Quote from: Inumo on November 23, 2010, 12:54:50 PM
I like the magic attacks Wildy's demonstrating, though it seems odd that you could block a line of ice, which is sprouting from the ground, with a block as if you were blocking a low attack. I'd think you'd need to somehow block it at its source, the ground...
She does seem to demonstrate a well-rounded range of spells for offense and defense. As for the ice, my theory: It's simply a form of "Ground Wave" spell, so whereas it looks to be a line of ice sprouting from the ground, the spell is actually moving in a strictly horizontal method, allowing users of magic/magic weapon wielders, (Of which Dan is both.) to block the spell rather than the effects of the spell. (The ice.) Using strictly physical means, the spell would completely ignore your block and the wave would continue on through.
Alternate theory: It's cool. Don't question it.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Amber Williams on November 23, 2010, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: Inumo on November 23, 2010, 12:54:50 PM
I like the magic attacks Wildy's demonstrating, though it seems odd that you could block a line of ice, which is sprouting from the ground, with a block as if you were blocking a low attack. I'd think you'd need to somehow block it at its source, the ground...

That would prolly work if it was Dan doing the blocking. But in that frame Dan was on the offense and Wildy was doing the block.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Inumo on November 23, 2010, 05:38:01 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 23, 2010, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: Inumo on November 23, 2010, 12:54:50 PM
I like the magic attacks Wildy's demonstrating, though it seems odd that you could block a line of ice, which is sprouting from the ground, with a block as if you were blocking a low attack. I'd think you'd need to somehow block it at its source, the ground...

That would prolly work if it was Dan doing the blocking. But in that frame Dan was on the offense and Wildy was doing the block.

That explains it.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Scow2 on November 23, 2010, 06:20:05 PM
Part of the confusion is probably because Dan's stance is clearly defensive and looks really awkward as an attack.

I'm guessing we are missing a lot of exchanges off-panel during the time they were talking (to show them all would require each frame to have three words at most)... Clearly, Dan's attack in the third panel is not an awkardly-drawn attack stance, but a swift riposte!
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on November 23, 2010, 10:04:38 PM
 ... ... :U I...I...I have no respose to this shocking revelation.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Arcblade on November 23, 2010, 11:23:45 PM
I would just like the register my enjoyment of the magics.  They are pretty and interesting to look at, and I'm glad to see them whenever they show up. 

I'll be thoroughly amused to see Wildy's third date.   >:3
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: AmigaDragon on November 24, 2010, 03:00:14 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 23, 2010, 04:52:01 AM
Interesting conversation there.  Looks like Wildy is up for an arranged marriage. 

It might not quite be an arranged marriage, any I've heard of have only one candidate for spouse. It might be something more like marriage as a requirement for an inheritance or something and she has a few candidates set up to choose from (maybe not even her only choices if she finds another one on her own).
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: AmberCross on November 24, 2010, 03:46:28 AM
Actually this wouldn't be two immovable objects. In this situation it would be Wildy's dad trying to get Wildy to do something so it's more that Wildy's dad is an unstoppable force rather than an immovable object. The whole family seems to be unstoppable forces actually which have the advantage that you can still dodge, which may be what Biggs did on this issue.

As for Wildy, it seems like she's pretty okay with the issue. If she weren't, I imagine there'd be all sorts of hell about it and there'd be no way to get her to do anything.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 24, 2010, 10:46:16 AM
Quote from: Arcblade on November 23, 2010, 11:23:45 PM
I would just like the register my enjoyment of the magics.  They are pretty and interesting to look at, and I'm glad to see them whenever they show up. 

Hear, hear. *grin*

Most impressive improvement in the art, Ambaargh, And I note your backgrounds have improved, too.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Cameron on November 25, 2010, 02:02:23 AM
I have to wonder what kind of guys those must be for Wildy to think they're "decent." (A certain amount of indestructibility is obviously required to qualify.) *yerg*
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Inumo on November 25, 2010, 02:29:02 AM
I'd think more "yeek" than "yerg," personally.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: nevwyn on November 25, 2010, 01:01:48 PM
depends are we talking indestructable by dodging or via taking the blow?

I could see yeek being more the sound  of a startled dodge, whereas yerg sounds more like someone had absorbed the blow to the body.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: joshofspam on November 26, 2010, 12:49:20 PM
I wonder if Wildy can make those ice pillars different flavors? :P

Though has anyone noticed Dan isn't using his tentacles yet? Though I do wonder if Dan does know at least a few spells?

Don't worry about turkey delays Amber. Those tend to be the most delishes delays out there. ;)
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: MT Hazard on November 26, 2010, 12:58:12 PM
Quote from: joshofspam on November 26, 2010, 12:49:20 PM

Though has anyone noticed Dan isn't using his tentacles yet? Though I do wonder if Dan does know at least a few spells?

Dan's tentacles are a symbol of his cubi heritage, something he's not willing to embrace just yet, plus that whole 12 extra eyes thing probably takes some getting used to.

The last time he used magic was the indecent that knocked all of his baby teeth out (Although there is his sword trick)
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: joshofspam on November 26, 2010, 02:25:40 PM
Quote from: MT Hazard on November 26, 2010, 12:58:12 PM
Quote from: joshofspam on November 26, 2010, 12:49:20 PM

Though has anyone noticed Dan isn't using his tentacles yet? Though I do wonder if Dan does know at least a few spells?

Dan's tentacles are a symbol of his cubi heritage, something he's not willing to embrace just yet, plus that whole 12 extra eyes thing probably takes some getting used to.

The last time he used magic was the indecent that knocked all of his baby teeth out (Although there is his sword trick)

True, magic he probably wouldn't rely on a spell that could accidentally knock out a tooth. But then I wonder if there are a few support spells other than instant weapon that Dan would use, like sharpend blade or an a vigor spell?

Though the tentacle thing is more of is your life more important than your unaccountability with your heritage? After all he probably owns in part his life to the second time when he meet Regina and after Regina resurrected DP. In fact considering Wildy happened to strong arm Dan to take her on an adventure once. I wouldn't be surprised if she would try to get Dan to start training with them.

Then again it would probably be safer practicing with Abel or at least in some gym in the academy. Dan probably would have actual problems working them in a more controlled situation. It seemed like the only reason he could control those tentacles in that case was he had one real focus. Killing Regina and DP. If that's all the control he has , then maybe steering clear of that is the best.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Anker Steadfast on November 26, 2010, 05:40:39 PM
Lets not forget that Dan are sort of in denial about using Magic ... he really doesn't want to use either magic or Cubi abilities, if he can avoid it.
And I'm not sure if he has learned the Sword Trick yet, though he did seem to like it when Abel showed it to him.

Made the Doctor's tea taste of Joy. :)
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Tapewolf on November 26, 2010, 06:18:39 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on November 26, 2010, 05:40:39 PM
Lets not forget that Dan are sort of in denial about using Magic ... he really doesn't want to use either magic or Cubi abilities, if he can avoid it.

I'm not sure about that - remember Regina.  He even started out by trying to mind-read Biggs.  I think he's starting to accept that the 'Cubi abilities can be handy.  Magic, perhaps not yet.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Congo Jack on November 28, 2010, 05:36:23 AM
Tentacle play is something Dan must concentrate on, and right now he's up to just having fun.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: MT Hazard on November 28, 2010, 06:45:45 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 26, 2010, 06:18:39 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on November 26, 2010, 05:40:39 PM
Lets not forget that Dan are sort of in denial about using Magic ... he really doesn't want to use either magic or Cubi abilities, if he can avoid it.

I'm not sure about that - remember Regina.  He even started out by trying to mind-read Biggs.  I think he's starting to accept that the 'Cubi abilities can be handy.  Magic, perhaps not yet.

His fight against D.P and Reg was mostly rage. He "didn't think about a lot of things" (his words) and nearly got killed.

His best option, and the best option to teach him, is saying 'this magic/ability will be useful to an adventurer' as he will have hundreds of years of potential adventuring left in him.

As for the sword trick, I refer to is the fact he can pull them out of thin air, although he insists he is just hiding them.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Anker Steadfast on November 28, 2010, 08:25:54 AM
Ah that trick, nah, that's just the fact that the Robe has hidden pockets, according to Dan.

Besides, how many computer games have you seen where they pull stuff out from nowhere, but it was in their inventory all the time ?
Well, in a magical world, this should actually be a possibility.

Basically, if the character says it's not magic, then, in his world, it's not magic.
Even if it would be in our world.

Different world, different rules.
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: Scow2 on November 28, 2010, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Congo Jack on November 28, 2010, 05:36:23 AM
Tentacle play is something Dan must concentrate on, and right now he's up to just having fun.
Actually, he doesn't need to concentrate to use his tentacles. They are guided by instinct and a number of mini-dragon heads.
Quote from: MT Hazard on November 28, 2010, 06:45:45 AM
His fight against D.P and Reg was mostly rage. He "didn't think about a lot of things" (his words) and nearly got killed.
Actually, nobody thinks in that sort of fight, and are chemically incapable of thinking. They rely on muscle memory, reflex, and instinct, since the brain diverts resources from thought processes to perception and reaction time.

So... I'm thinking the reason he's not using his tentacles in this fight is because he'd rather fight as he always has (as a Being) to keep up his skills as an Adventurer Fighter. He probably would feel it's wrong to use his 'cubi abilities against a Being, but he has no qualms about using all resources and abilities available to him from his Creature heritage against non-being threats like Demons. One of the primary rules of Adventuring is to "Use Every Advantage You Have".
Title: Re: 11/23/2010 [DMFA #1169] - How appropriate, you fight like a cow
Post by: R!P on November 30, 2010, 12:08:50 AM
I wonder if he can use the tentacles as extra hands and mouths to cast spells, if he ever decided to be butt-hurt about his heritage  :kirby