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Title: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Rakala on May 25, 2010, 10:28:29 AM
Hello everybody. This is not Ryan James Churn aka Rakala. This is a friend of his. I have some terrible news.

Rakala has died from testicular cancer. Among his dying wishes was that this news be spread so you wouldn't all be left to confusion. I'm sorry to have to tell you this but I suppose it's better than uncertainty.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Sofox on May 25, 2010, 11:57:10 AM
Oh, my deepest condolences to you and all his family and friends.
To be honest I didn't know Rakala that well, but it's a tragic thing to happen.
Thank you for telling us all of this, it's much better than the uncertainty.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Ghostwish on May 25, 2010, 12:02:43 PM
My deepest condolences to both yourself and to Ryan's family.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Alondro on May 25, 2010, 12:03:34 PM
That's a terrible shame.  We had someone in our church die suddenly from cancer and no one even knew he had it since he kept very quiet about it.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Orinus on May 25, 2010, 12:05:14 PM
Apologies for posting as him but I just now created my account. I figured why not try to make some new friends while I'm here, right?

... Still gonna be kinda bitter for awhile. Circumstances were not good. The insurance companies found some loophole that allowed them to not cover him for cancer. Ended up killing him. He had been fighting it for about a year when the companies pulled out from under him. Since then I have become a very strong supporter of healthcare. You see he and I were "roommates". It's a big loss for me.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: techmaster-glitch on May 25, 2010, 12:18:47 PM
Man....this is truly terrible.

I never really "knew" Rakala, and never really talked to him, but I did see him around this forum even now and then, and he always seemed like a nice guy. Thank you for informing us of his passing, and best wishes to you and his family.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 25, 2010, 12:45:19 PM
You have my condolences.


I feel I should warn you, at least some of the folks here are going to be cynical about this. Not least because someone in the past was a jerk, and faked his/her own death via the predecessor to this forum. Please don't take it personally.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Orinus on May 25, 2010, 12:56:39 PM
Great, just what I needed. Somebody in the past making people reluctant to believe me. Well thanks for the warning anyways.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: VAE on May 25, 2010, 01:12:43 PM
Quote from: Orinus on May 25, 2010, 12:05:14 PM
Apologies for posting as him but I just now created my account. I figured why not try to make some new friends while I'm here, right?

... Still gonna be kinda bitter for awhile. Circumstances were not good. The insurance companies found some loophole that allowed them to not cover him for cancer. Ended up killing him. He had been fighting it for about a year when the companies pulled out from under him. Since then I have become a very strong supporter of healthcare. You see he and I were "roommates". It's a big loss for me.

Hmm, i never knew the guy but it sucks so badly for somebody that young to die of such sickness - i remember last year a girl from my orig. school back in our village in slovakia died of meningitis.
As an aside, the highlighted bit makes me both sick and angry. I honestly wonder why are those even called insurance companies. I mean, in my country healthcare isn't great because of lack of money, but this wouldn't happen
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Mao on May 25, 2010, 01:39:56 PM
While I will say that I'm sorry for your loss, I will also say this:  You're on the internet.  Everything is suspect.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Zedd on May 25, 2010, 04:04:57 PM
That stinks but I send my wishes to you and his family
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Suwako on May 25, 2010, 04:55:59 PM
Condolences, May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Damaris on May 25, 2010, 06:06:20 PM
I'm so sorry to hear that. When did it happen?
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Orinus on May 25, 2010, 06:34:39 PM
It's been about 3 months now. I've moved on a little, I mean I'm not dating again but I can at least I have my sense of humor back. The funeral was a celebration of his life, as short as it was, like he would've wanted.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on May 25, 2010, 06:37:27 PM
My condolences for your loss. May his spirit rest in peace.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: superluser on May 25, 2010, 11:03:32 PM
Quote from: Rakala on May 25, 2010, 10:28:29 AMHello everybody. This is not Ryan James Churn aka Rakala. This is a friend of his. I have some terrible news.

Rakala has died from testicular cancer. Among his dying wishes was that this news be spread so you wouldn't all be left to confusion. I'm sorry to have to tell you this but I suppose it's better than uncertainty.

I am very sorry to hear that.  My prayers are with him, and with you in this time.

Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 25, 2010, 01:39:56 PMWhile I will say that I'm sorry for your loss, I will also say this:  You're on the internet.  Everything is suspect.

I find that unless someone is asking me for money, it's better for me to assume that everyone on the internet is telling the truth when it comes to personal tragedy.  The worst case scenario is that I become known as the guy who offers needless sympathy, and there are far worse things in life than being credulous when someone claims to need compassion.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 26, 2010, 12:23:30 AM
I didn't really know Rakala all that well.


But shit. Shit. That's awful. I'm sorry to hear of your loss, and although any offer I can make is inadequate, I would like to extend what aid I can.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Orinus on May 26, 2010, 01:45:07 AM
Well I appreciate the compassion if nothing else. It seems nobody here knew him all that well though.

But anyways life goes on. I'm no longer mourning so that's good, still kind of, to put it bluntly, sucks.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Darkmoon on May 26, 2010, 07:43:01 AM
Okay, as an official representative of the forum, we have a policy (as many social net sites do) of requiring an obituary or other similar proof of passing. We certainly don't want Rakala's account just sitting open, waiting for a hacker, and we understand you reporting this to us. We just need proof so we can finish this out properly.

Condolences for your loss.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Orinus on May 26, 2010, 04:25:19 PM
I'll do what I can. Just give me a few days to search through my old newspapers and such, I'll even look for a death certificate (assuming those exist) but you have to remember that our relationship was not legally recognized so I'm going to be scrounging a bit. Just an FYI.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Angel on May 26, 2010, 04:59:49 PM
I knew Rakala passingly, He was a nice guy, never one to stir up trouble or cause unnecessary pain. My condolences for your loss and Ryan's family and loved ones are in my prayers.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Darkmoon on May 26, 2010, 05:01:37 PM
Death certificates are a standard. If you are on good terms with his family, they should be able to provide the information requested.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Mao on May 26, 2010, 05:44:56 PM
Quote from: superluser on May 25, 2010, 11:03:32 PM
I find that unless someone is asking me for money, it's better for me to assume that everyone on the internet is telling the truth when it comes to personal tragedy.  The worst case scenario is that I become known as the guy who offers needless sympathy, and there are far worse things in life than being credulous when someone claims to need compassion.

Alright, amazingly enough, I like you guys so I'm going to do you a favour and make sure you have all the facts before you start prepping for your candle light vigil as there are some things me and a few of my friends have found about all of this that seem incredibly fishy.

First, it strikes me as somewhat odd that someone who was close to the departed would seek solace in the arms of a place where the departed was not only not well known, but  from a group of strangers who reside there, no less.  I say seek solace, not because you posted, but more because you decided to stick around and make friends because, hey!  Why not!?

Second, it's really odd that you would go into detail about the specifics of the departed's demise.  Most people would try to have more tact and would likely try to allow their loved one's passing to be viewed with a bit more dignity and pride.  Admittedly there are many possible causes for this (you have poor judgement, you're someone setting up to cause some trouble for the real Rakala or you are in fact faking it).

Thirdly, your story seems to be fluctuating a bit (though that could just be emotions).  In this thread alone, you've gone from 'going to be bitter for a while' to 'it was a great funeral' to 'I've more or less moved on.'

Fourth, it's odd, but not impossible or improbable that you logged in as him.  This is a minor point, but it only adds to the suspicion.

Fifth, it's been three months since his death and you only just now get around to letting folks know about it?  If this was a last request (quite likely the only way you'd know to do this) your execution time is terrible and not very considerate.  This point plays into the next one as well.

Sixth, it's been noted that no matter how close people are, they don't cover every little minute detail of their day, particularly their browsing.  This is also a minor point, but it will play in very well with an upcoming point.

Seventh, it strikes me as odd that someone suffering from testicular cancer would be interested in signing up for the army.  See this ( http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,6797.msg306437.html#msg306437 )
post made back in December.  Particularly odd since it doesn't take much to realize that the army would not take someone in such a condition and that they do very thorough medical examinations so there's no way to hide it.

Eighth, while I'm no expert on medicine, a quick internet search turned up some very important information concerning testicular cancer.  It's one of the easiest and least expensive cancers to stop, particularly with advance knowledge.  A year is more than enough time.  Even more interesting is that, in and of itself, it usually isn't lethal unless it sneaks up on you and goes undetected for a very prolonged amount of time.  Though from what we've been led to understand, it's been known for at least a year.

Ninth, I'm also not an expert of US Insurance (though some of the contributors to this have some insights on it) but folks are able to get severe medical care (insurance or not) if not receiving the care will result in their death.  In fact it is of questionable legality to turn them away if they will die without care.  The costs afterward are what make the situation unpleasant, but it is not a case that he would be refused care if his condition was potentially lethal.

Tenth, remember that point that I said would be important later?  Here it is: http://i46.tinypic.com/6ptg1y.jpg (Original reference removed by housepets forum staff (http://www.housepetscomic.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=1).  Replaced with relevant screenshot)a simple google search found this.  Seems that this fellow has the name Rakala in his profile and even shares the name (as signed in the post) with the deceased.  Quite the feat for a dead man.  Even more damning is that the account has been quite active the whole time that the deceased in question was not only suffering but also apparently dead from testicular cancer.  Very curious.  Even more odd is that there was no post there (a forum on which he was far more active) about the passing of our friend here.

Weighing all of this you can understand how some people might find all of this very suspect.  At this point I'm just going to end this off with no accusations and no outright condemnations but simply a favorite quote of mine:

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence " ~Carl Sagan.

(http://i38.tinypic.com/28a7vuv.jpg)
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Darkmoon on May 26, 2010, 05:55:16 PM
And before anyone goes after Mao for this post, I back him up on all of these points and he checked the post past me first. He's simply stating the exact things I was also thinking.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Damaris on May 26, 2010, 09:36:45 PM
Quote from: Darkmoon Firelyte on May 26, 2010, 05:01:37 PM
Death certificates are a standard. If you are on good terms with his family, they should be able to provide the information requested.

I went ahead a poked around on the Kansas site for vital records - to look up a death certificate, it looks like all one would need is the date of death and city (since we already have the name).
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: superluser on May 26, 2010, 10:52:49 PM
Quote from: Darkmoon Firelyte on May 26, 2010, 05:55:16 PMAnd before anyone goes after Mao for this post, I back him up on all of these points and he checked the post past me first. He's simply stating the exact things I was also thinking.

I would hate to have anyone think that I was going after anyone when I said what I did, which was merely explaining why I'm so credulous in situations like this (which is unlike my normal procedure of demanding sources).

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog, but I (again, personally, and without any intended implication that others should act in this way) don't have any desire to question the authenticity of others' statements when they don't have any real impact on me.

This contrasts with the forum admins, for example, who have genuinely good reasons to find out if the statement is true.  Mao may have other, equally valid reasons for trying to ascertain the truth, or he may simply have a different, but equally valid philosophy about this.

If I have caused offense, I do apologize, since that was not my intent.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Darkmoon on May 26, 2010, 11:10:42 PM
No, no, that wasn't my intention behind that statement. I was simply trying to head off the backlash I expected to happen, because it was a snarky post and it was posted by Mao.

usually those two factors start a shitstorm.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Orinus on May 27, 2010, 03:43:07 AM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 26, 2010, 05:44:56 PM
First, it strikes me as somewhat odd that someone who was close to the departed would seek solace in the arms of a place where the departed was not only not well known, but  from a group of strangers who reside there, no less.  I say seek solace, not because you posted, but more because you decided to stick around and make friends because, hey!  Why not!?

I'm sorry, I had no idea he wasn't well known, it's just one of the many usernames and passwords he gave. To be honest I don't have many friends of my own so I was hoping to find something here.

Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 26, 2010, 05:44:56 PM
Second, it's really odd that you would go into detail about the specifics of the departed's demise.  Most people would try to have more tact and would likely try to allow their loved one's passing to be viewed with a bit more dignity and pride.  Admittedly there are many possible causes for this (you have poor judgement, you're someone setting up to cause some trouble for the real Rakala or you are in fact faking it).

Okay fine, I had poor judgement. My bad, I didn't know that's how most people did it. I just figured most people would ask how he passed anyways.

Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 26, 2010, 05:44:56 PM
Thirdly, your story seems to be fluctuating a bit (though that could just be emotions).  In this thread alone, you've gone from 'going to be bitter for a while' to 'it was a great funeral' to 'I've more or less moved on.'

I'm bitter about the way he died, it was actually a good funeral, and life goes on so I'm doing my best to keep going. These emotions are not mutually exclusive.

Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 26, 2010, 05:44:56 PM
Fourth, it's odd, but not impossible or improbable that you logged in as him.  This is a minor point, but it only adds to the suspicion.

I must admit it wasn't part of my original plans to stick around but looking around the forums I found it an appealing place.

Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 26, 2010, 05:44:56 PM
Fifth, it's been three months since his death and you only just now get around to letting folks know about it?  If this was a last request (quite likely the only way you'd know to do this) your execution time is terrible and not very considerate.  This point plays into the next one as well.

Okay, fine, I'm a terrible and incosiderate person.

Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 26, 2010, 05:44:56 PM
Sixth, it's been noted that no matter how close people are, they don't cover every little minute detail of their day, particularly their browsing.  This is also a minor point, but it will play in very well with an upcoming point.

Seventh, it strikes me as odd that someone suffering from testicular cancer would be interested in signing up for the army.  See this ( http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,6797.msg306437.html#msg306437 )
post made back in December.  Particularly odd since it doesn't take much to realize that the army would not take someone in such a condition and that they do very thorough medical examinations so there's no way to hide it.

He lied on the internet? I dunno. People do that sometimes. Maybe he wasn't entirely honest about that.

Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 26, 2010, 05:44:56 PM
Eighth, while I'm no expert on medicine, a quick internet search turned up some very important information concerning testicular cancer.  It's one of the easiest and least expensive cancers to stop, particularly with advance knowledge.  A year is more than enough time.  Even more interesting is that, in and of itself, it usually isn't lethal unless it sneaks up on you and goes undetected for a very prolonged amount of time.  Though from what we've been led to understand, it's been known for at least a year.

Ninth, I'm also not an expert of US Insurance (though some of the contributors to this have some insights on it) but folks are able to get severe medical care (insurance or not) if not receiving the care will result in their death.  In fact it is of questionable legality to turn them away if they will die without care.  The costs afterward are what make the situation unpleasant, but it is not a case that he would be refused care if his condition was potentially lethal.

Look, I personally don't fully understand the situation myself. Bad things happened. Enough said.

Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 26, 2010, 05:44:56 PM
Tenth, remember that point that I said would be important later?  Here it is: http://www.housepetscomic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=380&start=0 a simple google search found this.  Seems that this fellow has the name Rakala in his profile and even shares the name (as signed in the post) with the deceased.  Quite the feat for a dead man.  Even more damning is that the account has been quite active the whole time that the deceased in question was not only suffering but also apparently dead from testicular cancer.  Very curious.  Even more odd is that there was no post there (a forum on which he was far more active) about the passing of our friend here.

In this case he specifically he asked me to carry on as him on that site. He didn't want them to be hurt by the loss because they were close to him. I wrote that myself so Rick would know how he actually felt about the comic. However I did recently discover a lump myself and felt inclined to check myself out given the circumstances. I know this story sounds flimsy but the truth often is. Please don't message them about it for my sake, I'll tell them myself since I doubt you'll just let it slide based on your track record since I've been here. Maybe he thought differently of you guys. I don't know.

While I realize I have no way to back up my statements I don't care at this point. I'm done with you guys. Since I got here I have been met with doubt and skepticism which has all come off as insensitivity. I would ask the admins to delete my account as I no longer have interest in joining you. Put this post in the Abandoned Mine, laugh at it, do whatever, I don't care. I apologize for being a bother to your time and point out I have been treated with a certain degree of impertinence I since almost the first post I made as myself. Though nobody has made an outright accusation it's pretty obvious, all of you doubt my honesty.  Good riddance.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: VAE on May 27, 2010, 05:40:35 AM
you have a way to back up the statements .... just tell us the city where the certificate was printed, and date of death... (you don't even need the second, we can check all possible ones)
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Mao on May 27, 2010, 06:14:09 AM
Your call.  You can very easily have me do a 180 by providing the admins with the very little things they've asked for and that will be end of it.  You don't even have to post it publicly.  You can PM it to them.  I trust them to be honest about the matter.

You've said it yourself that it all seems pretty flimsy:  It does.  Incredibly flimsy.  The proof required is small and not a big deal.  You were told at the beginning that we've been burned by a trick like this before.  I personally have not been burned by it, but there are some folks here that I consider friends and I won't chance them being burned by a possible fake out like this.  Even with my 'track record' there is a very simple truth about me that even my detractors have eventually been able to figure out:  I look after me and my own.  So rather than do something that just adds to the suspicious nature of the situation(i.e. leaving saying we're just all insensitive and impertinent, but still providing very little evidence),  walk away with a clear conscience and a clean slate.  It's up to you.  I want to believe you and offer sympathies, but you've given me very little to work with.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Darkmoon on May 27, 2010, 08:04:59 AM
Your sentiments are sweet and all, Mao, but if he was really going to back up his claims he would have done so already. It's simple, really. His entire story seems like a fabrication, a cry for attention, and when he got called out on it he (a) freaked out about how "mean" we are, and (b) said that he was gonna take his ball and leave.

Now, in a real situation like this, I'd have sympathy for the guy. But this is the internet, and people are naturally going to be skeptical. If he'd spent any time on the internet, he should have already known that.

We have policies in place to handle the death of a forum member. They're in the rules. He hasn't, as yet, sent us any information that fulfills those policies. In fact, he technically made this into a goodbye thread. As such, I'm more than happy to fulfill his wishes.

If further proof is ever given to show Rakala really did die, we will, of course, be willing to reconsider the matter. But, until then, I'm considering this multiple violations of the various sections of Rule 13, and as such am permanently killing both accounts.

Orinas: if you think this place is awful (for having skepticism in a skeptical situation), and you really want to go, here's the door.

:door
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Amber Williams on May 27, 2010, 11:40:37 AM
I particularly like how despite the guy only having "just signed up", he seems to know how the Abandoned Mine works.  Woops!

Shame on you good sir.  I have little to no tolerence for people who try to milk attention by using people's good intentions and sympathies.  And who then try to throw a giant guilt-tantrum when not everyone is falling over offering "there-there" pats to him.  Cause yes, how dare we not believe everything you say without anything but the word of a "stranger".  

Honestly, I sort of hope this is just a lie because if Rakala did die...he apparently was dating a complete asshole.  One who took three months to deliver his last wishes and then in the most tactless manner ever told a group of possible strangers that he died of the most easily curable and recoverable cancer ever.  And then went on during this time of "mourning" to take a potshot at insurance coverage before magically being past the mourning stage in less than a day.  I mean damn son.  For someone who claims to be so close and how much this other person meant to you, I'm impressed you have nothing whatsoever to show validation or the fact you were able to recover practically overnight from being bitter to being AOK and wanting to make new friends.

Frankly said, good riddance.  I have little time or patience for people who want to make grand claims but then snivvle the moment someone comes along to poke a hole in their system. And I have even less patience for someone who lies to the internet so they can get a momentary burst of attention.  Particularly to this forum.  As admins and mods, its our job to make sure the people on the forum don't get jerked around: Be it by scammers, harrassment, or people just trying to lie to them.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Lushin on May 27, 2010, 01:16:31 PM
Wow this is starting to seem very familar. Wasn't something like this happen a few years back? The guy didn't like the way he was treated and made up a story about how he died and was a friend posting saying he had died. Then waited to see how people would react. Ah crap it's that black cat again.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Drayco84 on May 27, 2010, 01:29:25 PM
This is why I wouldn't make it as a mod. I don't have the guts to call BS when needed. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchausen_by_Internet)

Quote from: Orinus on May 27, 2010, 03:43:07 AM
While I realize I have no way to back up my statements I don't care at this point. I'm done with you guys. Since I got here I have been met with doubt and skepticism which has all come off as insensitivity. I would ask the admins to delete my account as I no longer have interest in joining you. Put this post in the Abandoned Mine, laugh at it, do whatever, I don't care. I apologize for being a bother to your time and point out I have been treated with a certain degree of impertinence I since almost the first post I made as myself. Though nobody has made an outright accusation it's pretty obvious, all of you doubt my honesty.  Good riddance.
Considering that Damaris only asked for a city and Date of Death, it's not like it'd be THAT FREAKING HARD to cough up. As for everything else, it's pretty much already been said.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Alondro on May 27, 2010, 02:53:19 PM
*peeks in meekly*  Would this be a bad time to mention that I have Lyme Disease... (I'll be fine!  Caught it immediately after the tick bite got the ring-rash!)
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Darkmoon on May 27, 2010, 02:58:40 PM
It's only a bad time if someone else posts, as you, to say you died from it, only for it to later be proven you are still alive.

And that you don't have lyme disease.

...

And that you're also Hitler.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Alondro on May 27, 2010, 04:13:04 PM
Quote from: Darkmoon Firelyte on May 27, 2010, 02:58:40 PM
...

And that you're also Hitler.

:shifty  Yes, well... good thing I'm... not him... yeahhhhh...

*Charles dies today from Lyme Disease and the Andromeda Strain*   :grave
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Turnsky on May 27, 2010, 09:21:27 PM
Quote from: Darkmoon Firelyte on May 27, 2010, 02:58:40 PM
It's only a bad time if someone else posts, as you, to say you died from it, only for it to later be proven you are still alive.

And that you don't have lyme disease.

...

And that you're also Hitler.

so, Alondro's a Limey Fascist?  :U
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: ShadesFox on May 27, 2010, 09:30:53 PM
You are a terrible person Turnsky and I hope you die D:<. Wait is that a bad thing to post on this thread?
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Darkmoon on May 27, 2010, 10:00:32 PM
Only if you then fake his death. Kill him for real, or not at all.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: VAE on May 27, 2010, 10:12:20 PM
Hmm, i think we should require that a death notice is posted by the deceased himself, or otherwise won't be accepted...
That would cut off the scams
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Darkmoon on May 27, 2010, 10:28:14 PM
Strictly speaking... this one sorta was... or are you talking about posting for the other side?

I dunno if they have a net connection out there.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: VAE on May 27, 2010, 10:35:01 PM
Quote from: Darkmoon Firelyte on May 27, 2010, 10:28:14 PM
Strictly speaking... this one sorta was... or are you talking about posting for the other side?

I dunno if they have a net connection out there.

What kind of afterlife WOULDN'T have a net connection? A sucky one i tell you.
I bet all those folk who you wonder how they can manage be so much time on the internet... they all are dead and posting from over the rift !
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: ShadesFox on May 27, 2010, 10:53:19 PM
I hope the afterlife has an internet connection.  I just killed Turnsky and I want him to back me up on that.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Turnsky on May 27, 2010, 11:31:40 PM
Quote from: ShadesFox on May 27, 2010, 10:53:19 PM
I hope the afterlife has an internet connection.  I just killed Turnsky and I want him to back me up on that.

News of my demise are greatly exaggerated.

for the record? Heaven's got High Speed. Hell has 2400 baud... i'll let you guess which has the good stuff, though.  :<

Edit: and for Alondro...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/limeyfascist.jpg)

>.>
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: ShadesFox on May 28, 2010, 01:02:33 AM
So... if I didn't get you... who did I kill?  I'm pretty sure I got someone really good.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 28, 2010, 06:10:18 AM
x.x
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Darkmoon on May 28, 2010, 07:20:50 AM
We weep for monkey #3. He will be missed. He leaves behind monkey #1 and #2 and monkeys #4 through #16.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: ShadesFox on May 28, 2010, 07:15:01 PM
Dammit, he still owed me money DX<
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Drayco84 on May 28, 2010, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: Turnsky on May 27, 2010, 11:31:40 PM
For the record? Heaven's got High Speed. Hell has 2400 baud... i'll let you guess which has the good stuff, though.  :<
You may find this hard to believe, but Hell actually DOES have broadband.
Seriously, where do you think the most infamous Tech Support and Billing comes from? (Also, Hell is cold. REALLY FREAKING COLD!)
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Turnsky on May 28, 2010, 10:48:41 PM
Quote from: Drayco84 on May 28, 2010, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: Turnsky on May 27, 2010, 11:31:40 PM
For the record? Heaven's got High Speed. Hell has 2400 baud... i'll let you guess which has the good stuff, though.  :<
You may find this hard to believe, but Hell actually DOES have broadband.
Seriously, where do you think the most infamous Tech Support and Billing comes from? (Also, Hell is cold. REALLY FREAKING COLD!)

those are called "call centers" and often have nothing to do with broadband.  >:3
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on May 29, 2010, 11:13:05 AM
Quote from: Drayco84 on May 28, 2010, 10:38:00 PM
(Also, Hell is cold. REALLY FREAKING COLD!)

Oops, sorry that would be my bad; didn't mean to make freeze on you guys........ :3

Let me get my flamethrower and I'll fix it again! :D
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Sofox on May 30, 2010, 07:37:17 PM
Found this: http://memorialwebsites.legacy.com/rjc/MemorialSite.aspx
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Mao on May 30, 2010, 08:39:35 PM
Yeah, we found it the day it was made.  Guess when it was made, Sofox?  Can you?

I'll give you a hint:  http://www.legacy.com/obituaries.asp?page=obitfinderresults&firstname=&lastname=Churn&state=&daterange=Last1Yrs&newspaper=&keyword=

3rd one down.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Sofox on May 30, 2010, 09:17:31 PM
Huh, exact day Darkmoon asked for proof.

Yeah, yeah, I know I'm stating the obvious.

I still don't know where he got the name Ryan James Churn from, it was never mentioned in this forum. S/he must know Rakala in real life.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: insidexml on May 30, 2010, 09:22:45 PM
Wouldn't that kind of make everything even worse, then?
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 30, 2010, 09:26:40 PM
or simply pulled the name out of a hat. Anyone can make up a name, and I don't believe Rakala ever mentioned his name on the forum. If he did, it would just take a few minutes of scanning posts to find it and copy it up for a fake obit.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: VAE on May 30, 2010, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: Sofox on May 30, 2010, 09:17:31 PM
Huh, exact day Darkmoon asked for proof.

Yeah, yeah, I know I'm stating the obvious.

I still don't know where he got the name Ryan James Churn from, it was never mentioned in this forum. S/he must know Rakala in real life.
Well, it was mentioned in conjunction with his user name in the other forum Mao dug out.
This implies that either it is he himself being an utter idiot, somebody who knows him as you say, or third, that the person who hacked him did at least a part of research  , googling him.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Keleth on May 30, 2010, 11:32:11 PM
This whole shebang just smells of someone desperate for attention. Maybe he just signs on in hopes to see we've talked about him? Who knows.

Either way. Let's contribute to this for great justice, and instead. Have some cake.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Alondro on May 31, 2010, 07:46:10 AM
Other possibility:  Rakala mentioned going into the military.  Perhaps someone there who is rabidly anti-furry was watching him log-in one day, nabbed his username and password, and is destroying his cred while he's deployed or in training somewhere and can't find out what's going on.

Since the Munchausen web thing is a common occurrence, it'd be a very easy way to ruin his online life. 

There is only one way to be sure.  We must track down Rakala IRL and stalk him to find out!  Stalking is fun!   :boogie
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 01, 2010, 03:17:57 AM
Yeah, this is about dead. I'm gonna just tidy this up, mmkay?
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Mao on June 01, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
It's finally found it's true home.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Darkmoon on June 01, 2010, 11:13:16 AM
Oh, now I love this little dysfunctional thread. Can we keep it?
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Alondro on June 01, 2010, 11:37:17 AM
Can we add conspiracy theories?   :boogie
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Sofox on June 02, 2010, 12:39:18 PM
The Housepets account Mao pointed out is fairly active, yet there is a near 2 month absence starting just before the fake memorial page says Rakala died, and starts up again on April 1st.

Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Darkmoon on June 02, 2010, 01:12:22 PM
The trick of it is, though, that when he posts, it's without a break on acknowledgment that anything is wrong. More over, even in RPGs, he picks up as if nothing has happened. Fishy.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Mao on June 02, 2010, 01:47:56 PM
I wouldn't call that site 'fake' just yet.  Suspicious, yes.  Fake... don't know.  The two month absence is odd, and would, to some degree lend a bit of credibility to the story.. but it still doesn't convince me in the face of everything else.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Darkmoon on June 03, 2010, 12:34:35 AM
See, I, on the other hand, am convinced. He doesn't make the site until someone calls him out on not having evidence. Plainly, he was scrambling to "make" evidence -- and failed.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Turnsky on June 03, 2010, 03:18:53 AM
as morbid as it sounds, an easy way to 'prove' things would be photographs of the sheer amount of stuff you get from a funeral, flower cards, that little memorial booklet. Heck, even a photo of the grave marker would be a fair proof, usually photoshoppers don't bother to have the epitaph and other such marker paraphernalia 'shopped in.
Folks do leave quite a lot of stuff behind when they pass on so it isn't that hard to actually be honest about someone's untimely demise.

The mere fact that there was sufficient evidence of 'fabrication' over actual honesty, is what made everybody so dubious about this claim.. Truth or not.

Hell, half the evidence to back up the 'fabrication' part can be found via a google search. The truth is not that hard to find, really.
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: Damaris on June 03, 2010, 06:04:43 PM
:locked
Title: Re: Bad news (RE: Rakala)
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 04, 2010, 06:30:35 AM
For those wondering, this thread is here to serve as a warning. Take heed, and change your ways. This sort of thing doesn't work here...