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Title: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Teroniss on April 12, 2010, 12:41:20 AM
Ahh, now we see the source of all Aary-kitty's frustration. It isn't that she hates Abel, its that she hates the fact he plays so hard to get.  :3
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Jairus on April 12, 2010, 12:46:20 AM
*sporfle* BWAHAHAHAHAA!!! I literally burst out laughing over here. And you know what, something tells me, given what we know about Abel in the present, is that she never got to find out where those last three permanent spots are. Ho boy, Aary, that's like Sisyphus trying to get his huge rock up the hill: it just isn't going to work.

Also, Mink saying something like that... too freaking cute and funny.

EDIT: I also like how Mink and Aary's hands basically swapped positions with each other between the last two panels.
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on April 12, 2010, 12:50:09 AM
I'm actually grateful that he's not interested, we all know that it would in a fiasco anyways.  :P

Besides, Aary probably just wants to get into his pants, just because he looks like he's from Quoar Clan; and we know how coveted they are. She just want a notch on her belt......or lack thereof.....  :3


Quote from: Jairus on April 12, 2010, 12:46:20 AM
Also, Mink saying something like that... too freaking cute and funny.

I second that! XD
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: ooklah on April 12, 2010, 12:55:24 AM
HAHAHAHAHA I THOUGHT SO!!!

I wish i had said something when she was ranting so hard at him a page or two back.
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: MelSkunk on April 12, 2010, 12:56:20 AM
 :U
What?!
:U

Srsly, I'm.. I'm amazed. Though i assume this is not a "Sexual tension is why we fight" thing as much of a "Why to I want to get with the guy who I hate every aspect of his personality?!"
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: D'ymkarra on April 12, 2010, 01:00:08 AM
Mel....how many times have you seen two people who absolutely loathe one another fall madly in love? All I gotta say is....NEVER saw that one coming  :erk  I DO wonder now though, does Abel know this?

And Minkeh talking smexy = a whole new kind of win  :mowhappy
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Anri on April 12, 2010, 01:03:40 AM
Mink wins. Flawless victory.
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Ghostwish on April 12, 2010, 01:09:41 AM
I love how so many here claimed to have seen it coming...

... but I'm the only one who called it while they were busy debating who was right or wrong.

However, I am disappointed in the lack of shat bricks. Oh well, better luck next time. Guess I better heat up some popcorn in the meantime. Who knows what's coming next?
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Les on April 12, 2010, 01:29:14 AM
Outside the OMG factor of Arry's unrequited crush being revealed, I wonder.. based on Arry describing her feelings and how they spike so horribly whenever she's around able I wonder, is that purely Belligerent Sexual Tension.. or is it Abel using his skills as an emotion-jammer?

If so, could it be that Mink is just so adoribawesome that Abel just can't bare to send, "I'm a Bastard, I'm a Bastard, Piss-Off, I'm a Bastard..." waves at the Squiggly?
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: liari on April 12, 2010, 01:31:05 AM
Ahahaa, best retort ever Mink!  You get a cookie!  :mowcookie

In any event, I am tremendously amused.  Yay Mink and sexual frustration!
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Demont on April 12, 2010, 01:53:37 AM
This page hit me like a bus I never thought she was to have sex with Abel cause I though she hated him because of his dad.  :giggle
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Kuari on April 12, 2010, 02:06:44 AM
 :erk MEEP!!!  TON OF BRIIIIIICKS *smacked*
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: jeffh4 on April 12, 2010, 02:29:39 AM
So. . . . does that mean that in Cubi society, tearing a boy's wing in half is considered. . . . foreplay?
http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_595.php

:-)
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Baal Hadad on April 12, 2010, 02:33:11 AM
A-HA!!!

FINALLY her actions make some kind of SENSE!

But good grief, I did NOT see that coming....  I wonder if Abel was similarly clueless--I'd hate to be him there (well, not just THERE, obviously, but we're talking about this particular update here)....
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Tapewolf on April 12, 2010, 02:41:46 AM
Okay, now that was bloody funny.
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Madmann135 on April 12, 2010, 03:10:10 AM
...After this page my wonders to why he is not interested are put to rest.
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Drayco84 on April 12, 2010, 03:14:37 AM
(O_o) ................................
Totally didn't see that coming...
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Howl on April 12, 2010, 03:23:54 AM
An aspect of Mink has been uncovered.

That boy/girl is blunt.

Quote from: jeffh4 on April 12, 2010, 02:29:39 AM
So. . . . does that mean that in Cubi society, tearing a boy's wing in half is considered. . . . foreplay?

One would assume that she got over it.
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Rambon on April 12, 2010, 04:23:27 AM
Quote from: jeffh4 on April 12, 2010, 02:29:39 AM
So. . . . does that mean that in Cubi society, tearing a boy's wing in half is considered. . . . foreplay?
http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_595.php

I thing that's more of the fact Abel De-dressed her at the time.
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: ooklah on April 12, 2010, 04:29:57 AM
Probably explains the so much hate when we see them here:
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_584.php

Also, Because of Abel, I wonder how many other cubi have wanted to jump him over the years. Could be part of why he stays ambiguous and shuns the relationships... they are just out to get him.
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Shachza on April 12, 2010, 04:36:50 AM
Quote from: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on April 12, 2010, 12:50:09 AM
Besides, Aary probably just wants to get into his pants, just because he looks like he's from Quoar Clan; and we know how coveted they are. She just want a notch on her belt......or lack thereof.....  :3

A new slit in her dress?
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on April 12, 2010, 04:47:04 AM
My reaction: :U
*Snrk* "BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OMIGOD!!"
*THUD*

Ok... that... that was funny. I felt something was coming that would blow us all out of the water.
But Amber did not just blow us out of the water. Amber nuked the freaking ocean :mwaha
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Naldru on April 12, 2010, 05:29:50 AM
Quote from: jeffh4 on April 12, 2010, 02:29:39 AM
So. . . . does that mean that in Cubi society, tearing a boy's wing in half is considered. . . . foreplay?
http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_595.php

:-)

Two thoughts:

Opposites attract
You always hurt the one you love
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: MT Hazard on April 12, 2010, 05:46:48 AM
Another thought: Arry and Abel are too much alike, both are people with 'difficult' personalities that large amounts of people want to bed.
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Les on April 12, 2010, 06:08:16 AM
This may be unexpected, but really.. is it all that surprising, considering the amount of sheer Lust that's been focused upon Abel pretty-much since his inception?

I still think Abel is emotion-jamming her into jerkassitude, just as part of his usual 'keep folks at a distance' schtick and is also unwittingly causing Aary to critical-fail her seduction rolls.   :giggle
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Prof B Hunnydew on April 12, 2010, 06:21:10 AM
http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_585.php (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_585.php) <--- This page gave Us a picture that They did "date" for a little while... at least a first disastrous date...  I wonder what happen...

PBH
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 12, 2010, 06:29:39 AM
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on April 12, 2010, 06:21:10 AM
http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_585.php (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_585.php) <--- This page gave Us a picture that They did "date" for a little while... at least a first disastrous date...  I wonder what happen...

.. That doesn't say they dated. It merely says Abel is a dick, and thinks that dating Aary is painful.

Note that I'm not saying he isn't right. He's just a dick about it. Which, of course, is just fine with me. ;-]
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Tangent on April 12, 2010, 06:30:48 AM
Okay. First? Loved the update, Amber. Please don't curl up in a little ball with what I'm about to say because it's not directed at you and you might misconstrue it.

*deep breath* I must say though that I find Aary's reason for having a hate-on for Abel to be rather disappointing and one-dimensional for her character. It reminds me of the earlier incarnation of Aary who never really grew as a character. While it does effectively link the two aspects of Aary together... and I understand the need for "The Funny" to be a part of the comic (not to mention the fact that AS has a lot less in the way of humorous moments)... I still find myself most disappointed in Aary and feel that it diminishes her as a result.

Oooh, look! Jackpot on Negative Points! =^-^=
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: SoWhatIfImFurry on April 12, 2010, 06:53:46 AM
GAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA~!!! Oh my Gods! I was seriously expecting some sort of really deep reason for why she hates him... and-*snrrk*BAAHAHAHAHAHAA~!! :mwaha
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Mao on April 12, 2010, 07:36:32 AM
Quote from: Tangent on April 12, 2010, 06:30:48 AM
*deep breath* I must say though that I find Aary's reason for having a hate-on for Abel to be rather disappointing and one-dimensional for her character. It reminds me of the earlier incarnation of Aary who never really grew as a character. While it does effectively link the two aspects of Aary together... and I understand the need for "The Funny" to be a part of the comic (not to mention the fact that AS has a lot less in the way of humorous moments)... I still find myself most disappointed in Aary and feel that it diminishes her as a result.

Oooh, look! Jackpot on Negative Points! =^-^=

Oh god forbid she actually cares enough about him to want to see him succeed and do well and not be trapped in himself.

No!  NO I SAY!  It has to be some big, long, ass backwards convoluted plot where she's some sort of monster!

Because that isn't one dimensional and predictable either!

I guess people are too busy fapping to the idea of Aary being "Destania v 2.0:  The puppet edition" that they didn't think for a second that she could be just motivated by simple attraction.  A desire that led her to actually want to see Not-so-Abel get out of his whiny funk.

Quote from: Ghostwish on April 12, 2010, 01:09:41 AM
I love how so many here claimed to have seen it coming...
<snip>
... but I'm the only one who called it while they were busy debating who was right or wrong.

Uh no.  I pointed out that it was possible she cared for him too.
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: VAE on April 12, 2010, 07:56:31 AM
HAHAHAHA

Seriously, this i did not expect, but makes a LOT of sense...
I guess Aary now firstly came into contact with O'Riordan's theorem (appearance x intellect is a constant expression for all people of opposite sex one meets)


Amber is reallly a genius!
Title: Re: 4/12/10 [AS2 #97]
Post by: Arcblade on April 12, 2010, 08:16:25 AM
Quote from: Naldru on April 12, 2010, 05:29:50 AM
Two thoughts:

Opposites attract
You always hurt the one you love

Two thoughts to counter your thoughts: :P

Opposites don't actually attract, sameness with just enough variation to be interesting attracts. (seriously, science will back me up here)
You always hurt anyone you're in contact with long enough: that's part of life. 


Also, the squiggly hits the nail on the head: ding!
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Les on April 12, 2010, 08:48:56 AM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on April 12, 2010, 07:36:32 AM
I guess people are too busy fapping to the idea of Aary being "Destania v 2.0:  The puppet edition" that they didn't think for a second that she could be just motivated by simple attraction.  A desire that led her to actually want to see Not-so-Abel get out of his whiny funk.

Given Destania's interest in Abel, and Aaryanna's interst in Destania, it's not an unreasonable assumption.  However, the idea she's reaching out to Abel is spurred by physical (and possibly emotional) attraction does do a better job of passing the test of Occam's Razor.

Still I think Aary's going maximum jerkass when interacting with Abel may be the result of emotion-jamming, Aary herself claims to not understand why she can't maintain civility when she tries to address him.

"Woops, Abel-Hotness at 2 o'clock.  Okay Aary-kitty, maintain.  Remember your training.  You're gonna walk over there with a swish and a smile, look him in the eye and say, 'Good Morning AbelFATHGAN! IA! IA!"   :mowdizzy
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Mao on April 12, 2010, 08:54:05 AM
I don't think that's the case but, who knows?  It doesn't seem likely to me that he'd be able to successfully do that to her, or vice versa.  It just kinda seems far-fetched to me.  In fact, I think it's just the normal kinda frustration that comes when a girl likes a guy, but is trying to change him to some ideal but can't figure out how.  That's just me though.
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: VAE on April 12, 2010, 09:05:26 AM
Besides it would make little sense for him to force everyone to try to yell sense into him, only so that he would have to run away from them and argue with them which he wants to avoid...
I do not think even he is that dumb
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 12, 2010, 09:47:06 AM
Quote from: Tangent on April 12, 2010, 06:30:48 AM
Oooh, look! Jackpot on Negative Points! =^-^=

Fixed. ;-]
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: joshofspam on April 12, 2010, 10:08:34 AM
He can put up with Mink, what makes her think he can put up with her?

I don't really think that whips and chains are Abel's thing. :erk But I'm generally in agreement that his multi color might be what attracts Aaya to him.

But what was really suprising is Mink and Aaya are working together to get Abel to act. To bad Aaya over did it on her end. Mink though seemed to get through their for a while though.
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: D'ymkarra on April 12, 2010, 10:13:28 AM
Quote from: Les on April 12, 2010, 08:48:56 AM
Still I think Aary's going maximum jerkass when interacting with Abel may be the result of emotion-jamming, Aary herself claims to not understand why she can't maintain civility when she tries to address him.
Quote from: Mao Laoren on April 12, 2010, 08:54:05 AM
I don't think that's the case but, who knows?  It doesn't seem likely to me that he'd be able to successfully do that to her, or vice versa.  It just kinda seems far-fetched to me.  In fact, I think it's just the normal kinda frustration that comes when a girl likes a guy, but is trying to change him to some ideal but can't figure out how.  That's just me though.

Actually the idea of emotion jamming makes a lot of sense here...If Abel is 'broadcasting' a strong enough emotional shield to keep other cubi out of his own head, it stands to reason that some may be influenced by it enough for it to affect their own emotional state: Case in point (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_552.php) (Okay, maybe not the best example, but you get the general idea)
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Les on April 12, 2010, 10:19:33 AM
@Mao:  I dunno, by the time of the events in the current comic it's been established that Abel is so adept at emotion-jamming that he's become dependent on that skill, which throws him for a loop when he fails to convince Jyrras he's genuinely a jerkass.. kinda like trying to jam someone's GPS and it turns out all they have is a road-map.

@Danman:  I don't think Emotion-Jamming is that precise.. more like it just puts out a 'vibe' that sets people up for a specific emotional state when they're around him.. like pissed-off annoyance.   :P
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: PetFriendAmy on April 12, 2010, 10:20:17 AM
I've been playing way too much Ace Attorney. First thing I thought of when I saw "annoying bugging bug that bugs buggingly" was a certain character's abuse of the word "fool." :B

At any rate, this certainly puts an interesting spin on things. Makes me wonder if what was going through her mind in this strip (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_584.php), when she was worried about Merl fighting Abel, was something along the lines of "what if these two guys I like are fighting?" 'Cause... y'know. That kinda is awkward.

I also wonder if she's mean to him simply because she likes him and doesn't want to admit it. :U Oh the minds of those in love.
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Jairus on April 12, 2010, 10:25:24 AM
I don't think Abel is emotion jamming Aary so much as he's just not interested in her (a sentiment that I can agree with: I neither like her personality nor is she attractive to my tastes), while Aaryanna might want a boyfriend who will join her in torturing some other soul or something like that or at the very least accepts their Cubiness, so she's trying to break him out of this funk or whatnot. And the fact that Abel won't even consider it is what is frustrating her. A lot. And I really don't see him as intentionally emotion jamming so much as he doesn't want to deal with people: Mink is the only one dense cheerful enough to ignore it, and Aaryanna's got a crush on the spotted one.

At tangent: Well, considering she seems to be over him by the present day (okay, not totally over him, since there seems to be bad blood there), I wouldn't accuse her of being one-dimensional. Part of the problem of being quasi immortal and stuck in a large school with very little changing in the way of courses and such and most of the people staying the same age is that it might retard emotional development, so really, Aaryanna wouldn't have had much leeway to develop much. This basically feels like the equivalent of a high school crush to me. And I wouldn't call her Destania 2.0 so much as she is Destania's protege who has really taken after her. At least this does give her slightly more emotional breadth than "Ra ra ca Cubi kill soul suck maim torture bwa ha ha ha!"

At joshofspam: As for Aaryanna and Mink working together, my thought was more like they've had this conversation before, and Mink is such a nice guy that he's trying to give her advice.
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Scow2 on April 12, 2010, 10:26:03 AM
I could speak out on why Aary's still in the wrong about her approach here, but if I try to elaborate too much, I'd get banned...

She's trying to nag, flame, and bitch at him in an attempt to call him out on his behavior. His response is to walk away and ignore her without giving her any ground for or against her assertions, since there's no convenient way to report the harassment.

I doubt there's any unusual compulsion surrounding Abel to make Aary so intolerant to him. I seem to have the same problem at times, such as when I hit the "Reply" button on the threads about this issue.
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Scarydragon on April 12, 2010, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on April 12, 2010, 07:36:32 AM
No!  NO I SAY!  It has to be some big, long, ass backwards convoluted plot where she's some sort of monster!

I believe the correct term is 'bass ackwards'. :B

But as for the whole Aary liking Abel, it totally makes sense that's she's being a horrible bitch to him, while still wanting to jump his bones. She might see acting nice to the guy she wants to sex up as being 'un-sucubus-like'. I suspect she thinks that guys are supposed to pine after her, not the other way around.
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Alondro on April 12, 2010, 11:11:04 AM
*Charline de Lyon looks smug*  Seeeeeee, I'm not the only evil perverted Succubus!  >:3
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Amber Williams on April 12, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
I am only going to say a couple things.

1: If Abel was emotion jamming, I would probably have done something in the comic to indicate he was.  That said, considering how Abel has probably not been heavily investing in most classes, I would say it is more likely Abel has not been heavily investing in classes that particularly focus his Cubi abilities.

2: I find almost as bad as one-dimensionalness is that sometimes authors will feel compelled to try to over-dimension things.  Sometimes you just gotta sit back and accept that some roses have their thorns, some characters are just as shallow as they appear to be, and that not everything is a buildup to a grand scheme.  While part of me does find it interesting/nice/amusing? to see how much conversation has come up regarding Abel and Aary...I have been trying to keep relatively quiet on the matter since I don't want to word of god the conversation.  The Aaryanna character is most definately not one of the deepest ones in the cast, but I find her presence gives her a unique spin on things.  

3: I dont really think either Abel or Aaryanna are necessarily wrong or right. They just happen to be two individuals who have vastly different approaches to life and both are the stubborn-faced types.  As some folks noted in the conversation, a lot of the situation hinged on a bunch of "Well what if..." possibilities. That was intentional.

4: I like big butts and I cannot lie.
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: VAE on April 12, 2010, 11:32:10 AM
Quote from: Scarydragon on April 12, 2010, 11:08:49 AM

But as for the whole Aary liking Abel, it totally makes sense that's she's being a horrible bitch to him, while still wanting to jump his bones. She might see acting nice to the guy she wants to sex up as being 'un-sucubus-like'. I suspect she thinks that guys are supposed to pine after her, not the other way around.
I would more go with the theory that half of her wants to make mad shapeshifting cubi love with him while half is appalled at his lack of virility and whiny attitude which does not allow her to actually do so.
That basically gives a reason for the shouting and so - what aary is saying essentially is:
"For the love of [insert deity] behave like a proper cubi so that i can go to bed  with you without my conscience and pride  tearing my mind in half"  
Of course the latter could have an effect too... although she is not a fjord
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 12, 2010, 11:26:55 AM

2: I find almost as bad as one-dimensionalness is that sometimes authors will feel compelled to try to over-dimension things.  Sometimes you just gotta sit back and accept that some roses have their thorns, some characters are just as shallow as they appear to be, and that not everything is a buildup to a grand scheme.  While part of me does find it interesting/nice/amusing? to see how much conversation has come up regarding Abel and Aary...I have been trying to keep relatively quiet on the matter since I don't want to word of god the conversation.  The Aaryanna character is most definately not one of the deepest ones in the cast, but I find her presence gives her a unique spin on things.   

True, not to mention even the fact that a lot of grand schemes can rely on one-dimensional characters' actions.
In a war, most soldiers want to survive, bed women, get drunk and stuff like that (or another common thing is kill the enemy who did whatever to their homeland )
Yet interesting tactical manevres and compelling battles happen with them as actors.

Quote
4: I like big butts and I cannot lie.
However if someone's butt is so big he cannot lie it becomes a problem.... BD
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Prof B Hunnydew on April 12, 2010, 12:15:55 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 12, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
I am only going to say a couple things.
2:   The Aaryanna character is most definately not one of the deepest ones in the cast, but I find her presence gives her a unique spin on things.  

3: I don't really think either Abel or Aaryanna are necessarily wrong or right. They just happen to be two individuals who have vastly different approaches to life and both are the stubborn-faced types.  As some folks noted in the conversation, a lot of the situation hinged on a bunch of "Well what if..." possibilities. That was intentional.

4: I like big butts and I cannot lie.

2:   Aary fans should note, that she is a minor character.  And she meant to be a thorn in Abel side.  I have meet persons who are more shallow and one-dimensional than her.

3: Amber finds us Amusing....

4: "I like big butts and I cannot lie...." so do alot of the guys.

PBH
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: MelSkunk on April 12, 2010, 12:49:21 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 12, 2010, 11:26:55 AM

4: I like big butts and I cannot lie.

These other brothers might deny that.

I agree with number 2. I don't see anything wrong with Aary wanting Abelbutt as a motivator because as you point out, sometimes that's how life is.

What *I* want to know is if Mink wants to sleep with Abel
*runs and ducks from the thrown fruit*
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Suwako on April 12, 2010, 01:06:52 PM
This comic left a big stupid grin on my face and I think it is stuck, oh dear.

And hurray for the mention of intercourse, such a lovely lovely development. The expressions like always make the comic in my opinion, just look at Minks reaction, oh dear, he just rose two awesome points and got stuck there like the grin on my face. I don't care about how one dimensional the characters are and I can't be bothered to analyse their characters and critise them, perhaps thankfully so. I just enjoy the comic and try not to think about things that might bother me. I'm bothered enough in life as it is.  :)

*grins*
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Drayco84 on April 12, 2010, 01:45:30 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 12, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
4: I like big butts and I cannot lie.
Dammit! You'd think there would be more parodies of that song, but you'd be surprised...

Here kiddies, learn something (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvxBOiee3hs).
Title: Re: 04/12/10 [AS2#97] -
Post by: Shachza on April 12, 2010, 02:01:14 PM
Quote from: Drayco84 on April 12, 2010, 01:45:30 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 12, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
4: I like big butts and I cannot lie.
Dammit! You'd think there would be more parodies of that song, but you'd be surprised...

Here kiddies, learn something (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvxBOiee3hs).

"That's how things float!"  *dundun dundun dundun dundun*  Damn you!  Now I can't stop humming that...   :mowignore

Quote from: Mao Laoren on April 12, 2010, 08:54:05 AM
I don't think that's the case but, who knows?  It doesn't seem likely to me that he'd be able to successfully do that to her, or vice versa.  It just kinda seems far-fetched to me.  In fact, I think it's just the normal kinda frustration that comes when a girl likes a guy, but is trying to change him to some ideal but can't figure out how.  That's just me though.

I agree with you on her reaction.  I'm surprised more people haven't picked up on the amount of frustration that can be evoked by meeting that one person you really want to become friends or more with, and they don't notice a damned thing.  To me it seems perfectly logical that she is freaking pissed as hell simply because she can't seem to reach Abel.

In terms of the emotion-jamming, I know what Amber said, but I cannot believe that Abel is not broadcasting some sort of vibe that could be making Aary's reaction worse.  When I'm seriously pissed I want people to know it.  I'm sure that if I had 'cubi powers like Abel I'd literally be sharing the hate, even if it was unconsciously.  He certainly has enough bottled up right now, and with enough you lose control, and the unintentional and leaky nature of it might be what makes it so subtle.  Mink senses it and that's just more reason for him to stick around and try to help Abel; Mink doesn't like the vibe.
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Post by: Jasonrevall on April 12, 2010, 02:59:29 PM
I like Aary's reaction. That irrational anger that just makes you lose control of your words happens from time to time when two people don't see something from the same perspective. Even when you have a plan to approach the person a certain way it just all blows up in your face.  Ah social interaction, I wish there was a manual for stuff like this.
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Post by: Shachza on April 12, 2010, 03:00:53 PM
Quote from: Jasonrevall on April 12, 2010, 02:59:29 PM
I like Aary's reaction. That irrational anger that just makes you lose control of your words happens from time to time when two people don't see something from the same perspective. Even when you have a plan to approach the person a certain way it just all blows up in your face.  Ah social interaction, I wish there was a manual for stuff like this.

I would definitely subscribe to that...

<.<
>.>

What?  I don't get out much.  :P
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Post by: Caswin on April 12, 2010, 03:26:05 PM
"He bugs me.  He bugs me, and I shall have him."
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Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 12, 2010, 03:52:32 PM
Quote from: Drayco84 on April 12, 2010, 01:45:30 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 12, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
4: I like big butts and I cannot lie.
Dammit! You'd think there would be more parodies of that song, but you'd be surprised...

Here kiddies, learn something (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvxBOiee3hs).

I prefer this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gW6yQZyx5w)...
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Post by: Psychedelic Mushroom on April 12, 2010, 03:57:22 PM
Quote from: RandomMetaphysics on April 12, 2010, 04:47:04 AM
Ok... that... that was funny. I felt something was coming that would blow us all out of the water.
But Amber did not just blow us out of the water. Amber nuked the freaking ocean :mwaha

Nyahahahahaha!!! I know!!! :erk I nearly laughed to death when I saw Mink say that with such a cute face  :lol
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Post by: Tangent on April 12, 2010, 06:35:02 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 12, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
2: I find almost as bad as one-dimensionalness is that sometimes authors will feel compelled to try to over-dimension things.  Sometimes you just gotta sit back and accept that some roses have their thorns, some characters are just as shallow as they appear to be, and that not everything is a buildup to a grand scheme.  While part of me does find it interesting/nice/amusing? to see how much conversation has come up regarding Abel and Aary...I have been trying to keep relatively quiet on the matter since I don't want to word of god the conversation.  The Aaryanna character is most definately not one of the deepest ones in the cast, but I find her presence gives her a unique spin on things.  

3: I dont really think either Abel or Aaryanna are necessarily wrong or right. They just happen to be two individuals who have vastly different approaches to life and both are the stubborn-faced types.  As some folks noted in the conversation, a lot of the situation hinged on a bunch of "Well what if..." possibilities. That was intentional.
On #2. - Oh that's quite true. I doff my hat to you, Amber (it's a top hat! Got it at Anime Boston... I'll have to post pics when I get ahold of the pics seeing they're on a friend's camera). There is such a thing as overdoing stuff... and as my "criticism" shows, I was ambivalent on this aspect because while it did transform this aggression into sexual tension on Aary's part, it was also true to some of her character as shown later on in DMFA (which would be earlier on, seeing that it was... oh hell, time travel just gives me a headache. You know what I mean.)

You managed to insert a bit of humor into the situation, and AS has a bit less of The Funny than DMFA as a whole. I was just expecting something different with Aary, from how you managed to build on her in AS compared to DMFA as a whole.

On #3. - One of the problems inherent in the graphic media is that you are limited as to what you can show. A picture may be worth a thousand words, but what you're saying is far different than what you can come up with in prose. Sadly, we don't know all of what happened in the past with Aary and Destania urging Abel to confront Aniz. But I do suspect that this is where they went wrong. They put it forth as "confronting Aniz" instead of "why don't you visit your mom? We know you want to. We'll keep an eye on her for you, so you don't have to worry about May."

The latter? Might have worked. It definitely would have led Abel to examine his reasons for avoiding his mother... and may have even led to his writing his mother. But we will only know this as a fact when we look into the alternative reality where you won the lottery and hired dozens of art monkeys (I believe Damonk over at Framed!!! has some) to draw for you and presented this storyline more in full. =^-^=

Hey, art monkeys aren't exactly cheap, ya know... ^^;;
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Post by: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 06:46:11 PM
Duh, if a girl picks on you that means she likes you. So does that make SAIA more of a primary school or an academy?

Also I'm lovin all the comics with Mink in them. He's way too cute :3
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Post by: candide on April 12, 2010, 07:12:46 PM
Unlike everyone else, I was completely taken by surprise by the last panel.  Well played, Amber.  Well played.   :mowhappy
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Post by: Baal Hadad on April 12, 2010, 07:32:51 PM
Quote from: candide on April 12, 2010, 07:12:46 PM
Unlike everyone else, I was completely taken by surprise by the last panel.  Well played, Amber.  Well played.   :mowhappy

Unlike everyone else...?

I was taken by surprise too....  I just thought it explained why she was butting into his business since I couldn't see any reason why it meant anything to her--but it never occurred to me that THAT was the reason....
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Post by: Chakat Blackspots on April 12, 2010, 08:02:59 PM
Now, that was unexpected.
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Post by: entropicage on April 12, 2010, 10:27:07 PM
Huh. Well, that was different.
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Post by: Atharyn on April 13, 2010, 01:22:31 AM
Given the conversation about attraction, I'd like to point out that it is entirely possible to be physically attracted to someone without being emotionally attracted to someone.  I knew a woman who I could not stand - and vice versa.  We couldn't be near each other without fighting.  We hated each other .. and we also had more chemistry than a college chemistry department.

Sometimes hormones trump logic.

Aary's views on Abel, given her evident frustration with the fact that "her hormones approve of Abel" makes it clear it's a physical attraction.  I'd also bet money that she doesn't like herself on some level because of it.  ("Don't I have better taste than that?!?")

Also, props to Amber - I loved this update.  You managed to convey a lot of "character" through the art with body language.  Nicely done!

Edit:  Just thought of something else.  The question was asked earlier if ripping off half of someone's wing was foreplay among cubi.  Well, if someone you were in lust with but hated ripped your clothes off in public, wouldn't you assume they were trying to humiliate you?  I can easily see that emotional mess sending Aary into a whole new level of incandescent rage.
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Post by: Anker Steadfast on April 13, 2010, 12:34:34 PM
Hah - Loved this update.
Gotta give it to Mink, he's pretty perceptive when he wants to. :)

Quote from: Atharyn on April 13, 2010, 01:22:31 AMAary's views on Abel, given her evident frustration with the fact that "her hormones approve of Abel" makes it clear it's a physical attraction.  I'd also bet money that she doesn't like herself on some level because of it.  ("Don't I have better taste than that?!?")

I thank you sir, the highlighted bit o' text really made me smile.
God knows I have been there, those hormones are powerful stuff, I tells ya.