Dang it. We still know don't know if Mink is male of female.
I just write it off as male because of the shirt. Or lack thereof.
But mink could be just shape shifting what possible seeable evidence of being female away as to be able to be shirtless.
Male. 'Nuff said.
Mink is a squiggly.
Mink IS. That is all we know on Earth, and all we need to know.
Of course, with individuals who can shapeshift at will, other than their own personal preference, does it really matter at all? I mean, I could definitely see some cubi choosing to go the Tenko Kuugen route...
This is going to continually drive me bonkers I want to know if Mink is a he or a she
Quote from: Wanderer on March 07, 2010, 11:42:32 PM
Mink IS. That is all we know on Earth, and all we need to know.
Actually, what Descartes said implied that I know that I am and you know that you are. However, everything else is uncertain.
*****
Edit:
I actually believe that Descartes was laughing when he said this. What I heard was that there was a big debate by the philosophers of how a philosopher could know that he was real. Descartes felt that the argument was meaningless and wrote this statement to shut them up. However, he also knew that it didn't settle the underlying issues because all it settled was the fact of the thinker's own existence. However, the philosophers going through the meaningless arguments viewed it as sheer brilliance.
My vision is Descartes looking at the following discussion and thinking to himself - "These guys are idiots"
I don't know if I should visit Canada with the purpose of smacking Mason upside the head, or take notes from this guy...
Seriously, I thought Amber's cop outs were real pieces of work... She has been one-upped, and one-upped well.
Not magic.
Sciiiience!This message brought to you by the Mad Scientist League.
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(snip lGhostwish)
Quote from: Ted Schiller on March 08, 2010, 01:16:30 AM
Not magic. Sciiiience!
This message brought to you by the Mad Scientist League.
Please use mad science responsibly.
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And, I'm guessing you just want everyone to turn into females with school uniforms ? (http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2005-09-08) :D
Not everyone. Me, in particular.
Actually, I was hoping for Professor Utonium and the Italian University Powerpuff Girls. ^_^;
With regards,
Ted
Quote from: OminousShadow on March 07, 2010, 11:31:02 PM
But mink could be just shape shifting what possible seeable evidence of being female away as to be able to be shirtless.
Then does it really matter? Mink can shift into being what ever Mink wants. Male, female, or something else entirely.
Also, I have know idea why I'm on this forum at this time of night. Zzzz....
and here I thought deebs fed off the dust and lint
Quote from: Ted Schiller on March 08, 2010, 01:16:30 AM
Not magic. Sciiiience!
This message brought to you by the Mad Scientist League.
Please use mad science responsibly.
With regards,
Ted
But if mad science was used responsibly, it wouldn't be MAD science!
Then again, you probably should define "responsibly"...
*laughs hard at the cubi related question*
that's the most truthful answer I've heard when used as a joke
*wakes up with bedhead constantly.....along the the zombie demeanour*
While he... TECHNICALLY... answered the letter of the questions, he really left much to be desired in the explanation portion.
D+
Which is exactly why this rocks. Besides, I'd consider the answer on Mink a good one. You can take it as a dodge, or as the exact answer to the question.
I'm thinking Mason would make a good APF. Or AP... H?
Quote from: Kazuki on March 07, 2010, 11:43:57 PM
Of course, with individuals who can shapeshift at will, other than their own personal preference, does it really matter at all? I mean, I could definitely see some cubi choosing to go the Tenko Kuugen route...
interesting question. can cubi shift their internals so that they can (if going from male) get pregnant or (going from female) produce sperm?
or is it just their externals, that is it has the same basic effect as a modern gener operation, they look like the gener they want to look like but dont have the reproductive organs of that gender?
Quote from: psilorder on March 08, 2010, 08:19:53 AM
interesting question. can cubi shift their internals so that they can (if going from male) get pregnant or (going from female) produce sperm?
or is it just their externals, that is it has the same basic effect as a modern gener operation, they look like the gener they want to look like but dont have the reproductive organs of that gender?
IIRC (and this may have changed as it's a while since Amber posted it) it's possible to undergo a magical sex-change operation, which basically means recoding the DNA. This is a nontrivial exercise and can only be done once or twice.
It is not possible for a 'Cubi to change sex by shapeshifting to the extent you're describing - they can change themselves well enough to get laid, but you can't get an incubus pregnant and a succubus can't get someone else pregnant, no matter what their appearance is.
Quote from: The_one_who_is_odd on March 07, 2010, 11:49:31 PM
This is going to continually drive me bonkers I want to know if Mink is a he or a she
And this, is precisely why we may never get a definitive answer....Amber's madness is slowly spreading :zombiekun2
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 08, 2010, 08:28:50 AM
Quote from: psilorder on March 08, 2010, 08:19:53 AM
interesting question. can cubi shift their internals so that they can (if going from male) get pregnant or (going from female) produce sperm?
or is it just their externals, that is it has the same basic effect as a modern gener operation, they look like the gener they want to look like but dont have the reproductive organs of that gender?
IIRC (and this may have changed as it's a while since Amber posted it) it's possible to undergo a magical sex-change operation, which basically means recoding the DNA. This is a nontrivial exercise and can only be done once or twice.
It is not possible for a 'Cubi to change sex by shapeshifting to the extent you're describing - they can change themselves well enough to get laid, but you can't get an incubus pregnant and a succubus can't get someone else pregnant, no matter what their appearance is.
Makes sense w/regards to the clothes example he gave - changing yourself grossly, and maybe modelling new "organs" is moderately difficult but even without genetic change, a true sex change would involve magically producing accurate ovaries/testicles with proper internal structure, which sounds like a job for years even if each action was easy...
After all, i would say that when for example Dan grew breasts to mimic Alexi, they were likely nonfunctional too - probably just a bulge of muscle, like the transplants they used to give to those with cancer.
Say it as it is Mason. Say it how it is. :boogie
I bet Mason could fire down each question with an amusing and not necessarily informative answer.
Question answering like that should be a crime. I'm for to amused by Mason's answers for this comic to be possibly legal. :P
Quote from: Naldru on March 07, 2010, 11:58:21 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 07, 2010, 11:42:32 PM
Mink IS. That is all we know on Earth, and all we need to know.
Actually, what Descartes said implied that I know that I am and you know that you are. However, everything else is uncertain.
I can't say I really care about Descartes. I shall use his words out of context for whatever purpose I wish. :P
Quote from: Ghostwish on March 07, 2010, 11:35:34 PMMink is a squiggly.
This++
Quote from: Ted Schiller on March 08, 2010, 01:16:30 AM
Not magic. Sciiiience!
This message brought to you by the Mad Scientist League.
Please use mad science responsibly.
With regards,
Ted
And, I'm guessing you just want everyone to
turn into females with school uniforms ? (http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2005-09-08) :D
O_o Mason is now my official hero. I can see why Amber loves him. :3 Go Mason! Your awesome!
Quote from: Ghostwish on March 07, 2010, 11:35:34 PM
Mink is a squiggly.
I second this course of decision, Mink is a squiggly for sure.
God damn it Mason, stop being so darned awesome, it's confusing >-<
Mason iz funneh.
I still say Mink is one of "those" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_891.php).... :3
I was still giggling from "bed hair" when I was hit by "legally adult". Recovering from this strip is going to take some time... :giggle
does anyone else think mason's rendition of himself resembles Tycho from fallout 1?
Quote from: The_one_who_is_odd on March 07, 2010, 11:49:31 PM
This is going to continually drive me bonkers I want to know if Mink is a he or a she
Mink could be both! heh
well considering how little we know about Mink's non Cubi side, that was acutely informative when you think about it. gust not vary.
I think "Mink is Mink" sums it up. Does Mink
have to be anything?
And on the breasts with the Alexi thing- Maybe they just stuffed socks in the bra so that they didn't have to do any more shifting magic on him than necessary... That's what I'd do. Unless they showed cleavage, I don't remember.
Quote from: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on March 08, 2010, 07:24:39 PMI still say Mink is one of "those" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_891.php).... :3
If so- then the answer is "Mink is a woman" and the question is "So how come a shape-shifter gal is running around breastless? Fell asleep in class too many times there?". I think Mink just defies labels.
And on the "That's why we'll never know"- same thing as the "What is Abel's orientation". People wondered and eventually it was answered in comic. So Mink still has a chance.
Why do people find it so hard to believe that Cubi are capable of physically changing gender? Even if it doesn't necessarily capable of reproducing as their opposite gender, it doesn't mean that everything else about them isn't real///
As far as Dan's Alexi boobs go: They are either 100% genuine, created through Abel's quick, painful transformation spell such as D&D's Alter Self (Applied to another instead, though), or a semireal/semi- or non-tangible illusion, as per Change Self.
And even if there is a magical complete DNA-recoding sex-change operation that only works once or twice for Beings or Creatures, a Cubi's shapeshifting nature may give them a racial exemption, their inherent racial abilities making them able to freely change their gender at-will. Sort of like how magic is required for a being or human to physically regrow a lost limb, but most reptiles and many crustaceons can do so naturally if given enough time.
I'd question why people have such a hard time with the concept of a 'neither' gender in a fictional realm where God-like Fae and Dragons roam around and creatures with biology so alien to humans are common place. Does it really seem so hard to accept that Mink may not have a traditional gender?
Quote from: Mao Laoren on March 11, 2010, 08:44:51 AM
I'd question why people have such a hard time with the concept of a 'neither' gender in a fictional realm where God-like Fae and Dragons roam around and creatures with biology so alien to humans are common place. Does it really seem so hard to accept that Mink may not have a traditional gender?
But then all those fanfic writers would have nothing to do! >:3
Quote from: Mao Laoren on March 11, 2010, 08:44:51 AM
I'd question why people have such a hard time with the concept of a 'neither' gender in a fictional realm where God-like Fae and Dragons roam around and creatures with biology so alien to humans are common place. Does it really seem so hard to accept that Mink may not have a traditional gender?
Yes, that is kind of aggravating.
For instance, the Puppeteers in Larry Niven's universe had three sexes, two 'males' and one female.
IIRC the creatures in 'Star Beast' by Robert Heinlein had at least six different sexes, and required the cooperation of at least four individuals in order to mate successfully.
Then again, I guess you have to be a complete anorak like me to have read those... :B
Hey! I'm not an anorak!
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 11, 2010, 09:01:03 AM
For instance, the Puppeteers in Larry Niven's universe had three sexes, two 'males' and one female.
IIRC the creatures in 'Star Beast' by Robert Heinlein had at least six different sexes, and required the cooperation of at least four individuals in order to mate successfully.
Then again, I guess you have to be a complete anorak like me to have read those... :B
Hey, I totally resemble that remark! :animesweat
Quote from: Mao Laoren on March 11, 2010, 08:44:51 AM
I'd question why people have such a hard time with the concept of a 'neither' gender in a fictional realm where God-like Fae and Dragons roam around and creatures with biology so alien to humans are common place. Does it really seem so hard to accept that Mink may not have a traditional gender?
More to the point, for those that remember the comic's roots lie in FurC, which indeed had three specific genders for furrae: Male, female, and 'unspecified'...perhaps said ambiguity is entirely intentional?
Just to throw more oil on the fire, check this out:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8561814.stm
...a study on what determines the sex of chickens. It puts a whole new twist to the phrase "in touch with your female side".
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 11, 2010, 05:22:44 PM
Just to throw more oil on the fire, check this out:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8561814.stm
...a study on what determines the sex of chickens. It puts a whole new twist to the phrase "in touch with your female side".
Yeah ... but are they anoraks ?
Do they join other anoraks an rallysport gatherings ?
:D
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 11, 2010, 09:01:03 AM
For instance, the Puppeteers in Larry Niven's universe had three sexes, two 'males' and one female.
IIRC the creatures in 'Star Beast' by Robert Heinlein had at least six different sexes, and required the cooperation of at least four individuals in order to mate successfully.
In Alien Nation (the series at least) there were only two, male and female, but it took 2 males to produce a child, one I think acting as a catalyst.
QuoteThen again, I guess you have to be a complete anorak like me to have read those... :B
Never heard of that term.
EDIT: looked it up on wikipedia... You're a parka?
Mink is...
A character in an online comic. :mwaha
Quote from: AmigaDragon on March 13, 2010, 12:10:20 AM
QuoteThen again, I guess you have to be a complete anorak like me to have read those... :B
Never heard of that term.
EDIT: looked it up on wikipedia... You're a parka?
It's a reference to the sort of parka worn by trainspotters, back a few years, before geeks took over the world. Obviously, it's not something you'd pick up outside of the UK, generally speaking - since, after all, it's UK slang for jacket. And then UK slang for wet, soppy sorts who wear said jacket and stand in the rain for hours writing down the times and numbers of trains as they go past...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 13, 2010, 06:19:30 AM
It's a reference to the sort of parka worn by trainspotters, back a few years, before geeks took over the world. Obviously, it's not something you'd pick up outside of the UK, generally speaking - since, after all, it's UK slang for jacket. And then UK slang for wet, soppy sorts who wear said jacket and stand in the rain for hours writing down the times and numbers of trains as they go past...
Yeah. I figured most people would be able to work out roughly what I meant from the context, though.
Oh, _I_ understood. But then, I would.
AmigaDragon seemed to have some trouble with it.
Being a rural American, I don't see how I could have gotten the "wet, soppy sorts who..." from a word I didn't know, or even from definition calling it a jacket. And in a week I'll probably have forgotten what it is. :mowwink
To be honest, it doesn't surprise me. Or even disappoint me. ;-]