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Title: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Zaejue on January 23, 2010, 10:05:07 PM
It seems Wildy is taking the direct approach with things :3
this can only mean great doom or great joy
... that or Wildy will find a way to use it against Jy-squeek
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Psy-Kosh on January 23, 2010, 10:09:32 PM
I didn't quite understand the whole "leg man" vs "leg guy" thing.

ie, why was the former confusing for Abel? What made the latter a correction for the former?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Janus Whitefurr on January 23, 2010, 10:12:31 PM
I hope he gives a scathing retort that doesn't answer the question.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Angel on January 23, 2010, 10:14:01 PM
.............. :U

....I could kiss that ferret. We're finally, FINALLY getting an answer, and the one who asked is WILDY!

FWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! My night just became one of the top 100 best ever.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: bradypodidae on January 23, 2010, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on January 23, 2010, 10:09:32 PM
I didn't quite understand the whole "leg man" vs "leg guy" thing.

I imagine because "man" denotes "human", a mythological creature; it was a slip on Wildy's part who is fascinated by humans.

Since I do not follow the fandoms, I have to ask, has the idea of Wildy and Abel been shipped, yet?

And has Wildy gotten sexier lately?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 23, 2010, 10:18:24 PM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on January 23, 2010, 10:12:31 PM
I hope he gives a scathing retort that doesn't answer the question.

I'd like to second that. ;-]
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Magic on January 23, 2010, 10:22:03 PM
"Why yes, I'm happy right now."
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Kesh on January 23, 2010, 10:27:02 PM
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on January 23, 2010, 10:09:32 PM
I didn't quite understand the whole "leg man" vs "leg guy" thing.

ie, why was the former confusing for Abel? What made the latter a correction for the former?

He doesn't consider Dan to be a "man" yet.

Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on January 23, 2010, 10:12:31 PM
I hope he gives a scathing retort that doesn't answer the question.

Actually, I hope he gives a direct, nonchalant answer. Just because that would throw everyone off.  :)

Edit:
  Let me introduce you to something, Kesh. It's called the Edit Button. Usually labelled either "Edit" or "Modify", you should use it at all times, rather than double-posting. Especially since double-posting is listed in the rules...
  -- llearch
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Rafe on January 23, 2010, 10:55:18 PM
Or, he could give a direct, nonchalant answer that is completely false.
That could go either way.  Wildy could tell someone, that person could confront Abel to confirm it, then he could deny it and say Wildy is lying, creating all sorts of fun emotions for an incubus to enjoy, even if only to annoy them.

Yes, many possibilities here.

Then again, even after 400 or so years, maybe Abel doesn't know, or never wanted to know, especially given the way Aniz used his mother, and not wanting to think he would use someone like that.  Lots of potential stuff Abel could be hiding, even from himself.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Jasonrevall on January 23, 2010, 11:05:43 PM
Quote from: Rafe on January 23, 2010, 10:55:18 PM
Or, he could give a direct, nonchalant answer that is completely false.
That could go either way.  Wildy could tell someone, that person could confront Abel to confirm it, then he could deny it and say Wildy is lying, creating all sorts of fun emotions for an incubus to enjoy, even if only to annoy them.

Yes, many possibilities here.

Then again, even after 400 or so years, maybe Abel doesn't know, or never wanted to know.


I don't think Abel is the type to just go around lying to people for his amusement. Although there are many other fun things I'm sure he could do.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: candide on January 23, 2010, 11:11:28 PM
Oh no she didn't!

Still will be interesting to see the results, though.  :)
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Psy-Kosh on January 23, 2010, 11:20:21 PM
Quote from: proeliator bradypodidae on January 23, 2010, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on January 23, 2010, 10:09:32 PM
I didn't quite understand the whole "leg man" vs "leg guy" thing.

I imagine because "man" denotes "human", a mythological creature; it was a slip on Wildy's part who is fascinated by humans.

I thought about that possibility... But is the phrase "man" reserved for humans in the DMFAverse? And either way, even given that she's fascinated by humans, wouldn't the most common form of various phrases tend to be the type that would most easily come to mind for her?

Quote from: Kesh on January 23, 2010, 10:27:02 PM
He doesn't consider Dan to be a "man" yet.

There is that possibility. We know Aary had that attitude. Do we know Abel to do so?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: ChaosMageX on January 23, 2010, 11:32:39 PM
Quote from: Magic on January 23, 2010, 10:22:03 PM
"Why yes, I'm happy right now."

That would actually be quite funny if he gave a response under that context, but given what Abel's been through, I'd have to say it would be the exact opposite, as his experiences as a bartender haven't been the most pleasant.

Also, I don't really if Abel answers the question or avoids it, as long the next strip is funny.

Besides, it doesn't really matter to me what Abel's sexual orientation is.

Four centuries is a long time to be in school, and one would think that most cubi would get bored and experiment in both directions in that time.  Why limit oneself to just half the school's population?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Pagan on January 23, 2010, 11:36:37 PM
I realize that he could just very easily blow her off and not answer the question, or answer falsely, or any other number of ways to keep us guessing. But there's also the chance that Amber will move things along, including the possible Jyrass/Abel relationship. Status Quo is not god around DMFA, and I very much like that fact. So I'm hoping this changes things. And I really hope he's attracted to guys. Jyrass needs something good to come his way.

Plus, the arm things he's wearing ought to answer the question for her. Abel's girlier than Merl or Dan ever was.

Also: Wildy's grown more sexy because she's showing cleavage. Plus, she's at a pretty good ratio of flesh shown to hidden right now.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: KarlOmega1 on January 23, 2010, 11:56:42 PM
Hmmm...I think my jaw dropped when I looked at the comic and saw Wildy's pose in the second frame. Nice.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: MC_Hollis on January 23, 2010, 11:59:12 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on January 23, 2010, 10:14:01 PM
.............. :U

....I could kiss that ferret. We're finally, FINALLY getting an answer, and the one who asked is WILDY!

FWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! My night just became one of the top 100 best ever.
You forget who we're dealing with. The Queen of Random- and an A student of suspense.   :3  :bunny
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Howl on January 24, 2010, 12:00:15 AM
Quote from: Jasonrevall on January 23, 2010, 11:05:43 PM
Quote from: Rafe on January 23, 2010, 10:55:18 PM
Or, he could give a direct, nonchalant answer that is completely false.
That could go either way.  Wildy could tell someone, that person could confront Abel to confirm it, then he could deny it and say Wildy is lying, creating all sorts of fun emotions for an incubus to enjoy, even if only to annoy them.

Yes, many possibilities here.

Then again, even after 400 or so years, maybe Abel doesn't know, or never wanted to know.


I don't think Abel is the type to just go around lying to people for his amusement. Although there are many other fun things I'm sure he could do.

He did say he's like an honest jerk. I expect a "Huh? What?", then Wildy to say something, then Abel to answer or remark "None of your business."

EDIT: Now I'm miffed that Abel's Story is next. I really don't care what happens with Kria and Fa'Lina compared to this.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Pagan on January 24, 2010, 12:06:06 AM
I'd also like to comment that I like how her speech bubble is so high up in the panel and then it's her, Abel, and a lot of empty space. Gives it a nice visual metaphor of the situation.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Nyomi on January 24, 2010, 12:08:45 AM
I have a feeling Abel will tell the truth if he ends up giving a direct answer.  I'm still suspicious he might be asexual, though, for the lack of interest he's shown in either gender and...
Quote from: Rafe on January 23, 2010, 10:55:18 PMThen again, even after 400 or so years, maybe Abel doesn't know, or never wanted to know, especially given the way Aniz used his mother, and not wanting to think he would use someone like that.  Lots of potential stuff Abel could be hiding, even from himself.
...maybe because of that and the other traumatic things that have happened to him, too.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: OminousShadow on January 24, 2010, 12:24:46 AM
Quote from: proeliator bradypodidae on January 23, 2010, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on January 23, 2010, 10:09:32 PM
I didn't quite understand the whole "leg man" vs "leg guy" thing.

I imagine because "man" denotes "human", a mythological creature; it was a slip on Wildy's part who is fascinated by humans.

Since I do not follow the fandoms, I have to ask, has the idea of Wildy and Abel been shipped, yet?

And has Wildy gotten sexier lately?

I'm with you. Wildy has somehow gotten Sexier lately it seems.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: terrycloth on January 24, 2010, 12:32:24 AM
Wildy's wearing improvised clothing that looks like it could fail and leave her naked at any moment -- it's a ludicrously sexy outfit because of that. I've seen sexy nightgowns with the same back-and-forth one-thin-lace-holding-it-up scheme. It's a classic.

And there's no way Abel's actually going to answer and we're going to see it. Even if it wasn't switching to Abel's story, it'd switch to Alexei and Dan getting home or something. Come on, guys, be sensible here.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on January 24, 2010, 12:50:30 AM
Wow. Wildy just went to the point, huh?  :U
Gotta hand it to her though, she has a lot of moxie. Then again... this is Wildy we're talking about here.

I doubt Abel will answer. Those two aren't what one would really call "friends."
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: OminousShadow on January 24, 2010, 12:52:20 AM
Quote from: terrycloth on January 24, 2010, 12:32:24 AM
Wildy's wearing improvised clothing that looks like it could fail and leave her naked at any moment -- it's a ludicrously sexy outfit because of that. I've seen sexy nightgowns with the same back-and-forth one-thin-lace-holding-it-up scheme. It's a classic.

That is it. That is why she is a lot sexier than usual lately. Thank you.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Ted Schiller on January 24, 2010, 01:04:53 AM
Quote from: Magic on January 23, 2010, 10:22:03 PM
"Why yes, I'm happy right now."

After the day he's had?  >:O  No, he's not gay.  

:rolleyes

With regards,
Ted

PS So Magic. While we're not on the subject... were you Doctor Ink?    :)
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Zaejue on January 24, 2010, 01:15:05 AM
Quote from: RandomMetaphysics on January 24, 2010, 12:50:30 AM
Wow. Wildy just went to the point, huh?  :U
Gotta hand it to her though, she has a lot of moxie. Then again... this is Wildy we're talking about here.

I doubt Abel will answer. Those two aren't what one would really call "friends."
I think she went to the point so she could tell Jy-squeek what she did and possibly did this to help Jy-squeek or it;ll skip to the next day where our little nerdy mouse is trying to kill the violent ferret
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: inuhanyo on January 24, 2010, 01:41:25 AM
Quote from: OminousShadow on January 24, 2010, 12:52:20 AM
Quote from: terrycloth on January 24, 2010, 12:32:24 AM
Wildy's wearing improvised clothing that looks like it could fail and leave her naked at any moment -- it's a ludicrously sexy outfit because of that. I've seen sexy nightgowns with the same back-and-forth one-thin-lace-holding-it-up scheme. It's a classic.

That is it. That is why she is a lot sexier than usual lately. Thank you.
A lesser aspect of it is that her improvised top shows Absolute Cleavage (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AbsoluteCleavage).  The effect terrycloth is refering to is known as the Theiss Titillation Theory (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheissTitillationTheory)
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Arcblade on January 24, 2010, 01:48:14 AM
Quote from: Ted Schiller on January 24, 2010, 01:04:53 AM
Quote from: Magic on January 23, 2010, 10:22:03 PM
"Why yes, I'm happy right now."

PS So Magic. While we're not on the subject... were you Doctor Ink?    :)

Just so I can save him the annoyance of answering, check out his signature.   :P

That question was SO Wildy. Wonder if she's asking 'cause of Jyrras?  She's not blind, even if she's not always there for the fireworks and Megawfulnormous-ness. 
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: jeffh4 on January 24, 2010, 02:33:50 AM
Remember Abel's reaction to Hennya going bipedal. . . .and facing the wrong way. 

http://missmab.com/Comics/Abel_78.php

Knocked him clean out of his funk.  I'd have to say asexual is out.  Het or Bi is possible.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 24, 2010, 02:37:13 AM
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on January 23, 2010, 11:20:21 PM
Quote from: Kesh on January 23, 2010, 10:27:02 PM
He doesn't consider Dan to be a "man" yet.

There is that possibility. We know Aary had that attitude. Do we know Abel to do so?


Since they're both (almost) 400 years or older, they both probably consider him (25) little more than a baby.

Quote from: jeffh4 on January 24, 2010, 02:33:50 AM
Remember Abel's reaction to Hennya going bipedal. . . .and facing the wrong way. 

http://missmab.com/Comics/Abel_78.php

Knocked him clean out of his funk.  I'd have to say asexual is out.  Het or Bi is possible.

It wasn't so much the direction she was facing, it was more the revealing pose.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Les on January 24, 2010, 02:48:31 AM
What, Abel can't be Bi? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoBisexuals)

And you're just noticing Wildy San's Hotness (Sexy, Scary-Scary Hotness) now? 

(couldn't find an analog to the 'hot-cha-cha' smiley I was looking for, but did find this.)

:ddrabel
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on January 24, 2010, 03:02:39 AM
That "DDR-Abel" is by far one of the most amazing things I have seen. I wonder what would happen if Dan and Abel versed off...

Going back to the topic at hand...
Knowing Abel, his reply to Wildy's question will be a very witty retort.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 24, 2010, 03:07:49 AM
As long as she isn't hitting him somewhere delicate.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: jo-shadow on January 24, 2010, 03:11:16 AM
Heh, she definitely caught him off guard, but I think she was testing him the whole time before.

I noticed that, although Wildy did not wear the outfit specifically for that purpose, in the previous comic (#1081 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1081.php)) Wildy is clearly positioning herself on her knees in a way so that her chest is in plain view to Abel, and with a clear sexy/koy expression, both in the second and third panel.

Of-course this may just be Wildy's style in general, but I can't help but think that this was kind of a pre-test to gage his reaction (or lack there-of) before popping the question now.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on January 24, 2010, 03:46:45 AM
Quote from: jo-shadow on January 24, 2010, 03:11:16 AM
HWildy is clearly positioning herself on her knees in a way so that her chest is in plain view to Abel, and with a clear sexy/koy expression, both in the second and third panel.

Of-course this may just be Wildy's style in general, but I can't help but think that this was kind of a pre-test to gage his reaction (or lack there-of) before popping the question now.

Hmmmm. A possible Chekhov's gun, maybe? Wildy is always up to something...
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: iceick on January 24, 2010, 03:50:30 AM
Quote from: MC_Hollis on January 23, 2010, 11:59:12 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on January 23, 2010, 10:14:01 PM
.............. :U

....I could kiss that ferret. We're finally, FINALLY getting an answer, and the one who asked is WILDY!

FWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! My night just became one of the top 100 best ever.
You forget who we're dealing with. The Queen of Random- and an A student of suspense.   :3  :bunny

Don't worry, since we're human (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_252.php) she won't beat us up right away if we hug (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_251.php) or kiss her.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Garsemor on January 24, 2010, 05:16:29 AM
OMG, did she just do that? Did she just ask him his sexuality? To mutch suspence, I can't handel it. :redrum *don't worry it's just a pellet gun*
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Bjalf on January 24, 2010, 06:15:52 AM
Quote from: Pagan on January 23, 2010, 11:36:37 PM
Plus, the arm things he's wearing ought to answer the question for her. Abel's girlier than Merl or Dan ever was.

Well, he could be a girly lesbian in a man's guy's body.


Quote from: jeffh4 on January 24, 2010, 02:33:50 AM
Remember Abel's reaction to Hennya going bipedal. . . .and facing the wrong way. 

http://missmab.com/Comics/Abel_78.php

Knocked him clean out of his funk.  I'd have to say asexual is out.  Het or Bi is possible.

Or just not a butt guy. And not all rear views are nice. cough goatse cough

Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Magic on January 24, 2010, 06:30:18 AM
Quote from: Ted Schiller on January 24, 2010, 01:04:53 AM
Quote from: Magic on January 23, 2010, 10:22:03 PM
"Why yes, I'm happy right now."

After the day he's had? No, he's not gay.  

With regards,
Ted


I apologize if my sarcasm is wasted on you, but you need not offend me by indirectly calling me inattentive. I just wasn't aware wit is to be taken as a fool's point of view, as crude as that idea might sound to me. Oh well, c'est la vie.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Brownie on January 24, 2010, 07:01:31 AM
Didn't Jyrras say Way Back whenthat these kind of things had to be found out in an elaborate plan of some kind? I was trying to find the comic but couldn't.
Ah well, Wildy's not known for doing that.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Bjalf on January 24, 2010, 07:12:07 AM
Quote from: terrycloth on January 24, 2010, 12:32:24 AM
And there's no way Abel's actually going to answer and we're going to see it. Even if it wasn't switching to Abel's story, it'd switch to Alexei and Dan getting home or something. Come on, guys, be sensible here.

This I can believe. We're going to visit all the other sub-stories, and when we get back to Abel and Wildy, Abel will say (in the very first panel) "... and that's why everybody asks me that.", just like Pyroduck does here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1075.php).


Quote from: Brownie on January 24, 2010, 07:01:31 AM
Didn't Jyrras say Way Back whenthat these kind of things had to be found out in an elaborate plan of some kind? I was trying to find the comic but couldn't.

Strip 997 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_997.php).
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Ry on January 24, 2010, 08:30:01 AM
I really hope he doesn't answer- I like the ambiguity.  Even if he does end up with someone, I hope it's done so that it's possible this person may be an exception to the rule (and, yes, I know people both gay and straight who've fallen in love with someone of the other sex)
Quote from: jeffh4 on January 24, 2010, 02:33:50 AMRemember Abel's reaction to Hennya going bipedal. . . .and facing the wrong way.  

http://missmab.com/Comics/Abel_78.php

Knocked him clean out of his funk.  I'd have to say asexual is out.  Het or Bi is possible.
I'm asexual and I'd react exactly like that if someone flashed their genitals at me. Either sex.  Asexual doesn't mean you're completely unphased by such things (although I do know an asexual stripper and a couple of people who are way more sex positive than most)- it just means you aren't sexually attracted to anyone.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Eon on January 24, 2010, 08:40:16 AM
Once again, we see that Wildy doesn't do subtle. Still, if you want a direct answer, ask a direct question, I guess. Although it may be too much to hope for Abel to give a simple yes or no.  

Quote from: proeliator bradypodidae on January 23, 2010, 10:14:46 PM
And has Wildy gotten sexier lately?

Wildy gets sexier every time I see her.  :3

*Wildy fan*

But, seriously, she does look exceptionally attractive in this strip, particularly in the second panel. It's probably a combination of her pose, her expression, and that rather skimpy outfit she's wearing. Though, I admit, I miss her usual outfit a little.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Tapewolf on January 24, 2010, 08:57:28 AM
The simple answer is "That's none of your business."  If she hassles him, he throws her out.  With 400 years of study he surely has some way of putting her in her place without breaking disguise, Wildy or no...
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 24, 2010, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: jo-shadow on January 24, 2010, 03:11:16 AM
I noticed that, although Wildy did not wear the outfit specifically for that purpose, in the previous comic (#1081 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1081.php)) Wildy is clearly positioning herself on her knees in a way so that her chest is in plain view to Abel, and with a clear sexy/koy expression, both in the second and third panel.

A Koi expression?
(http://72.167.47.62/imgs/fish/koi-fish-profile.jpg)
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Jakon on January 24, 2010, 09:40:11 AM
I'm pretty sure the next comic will go something like this...

Abel: ...Well. That's the first time anyone's been so direct with me in quite a while.
Wildy: That's my style.
Abel: As well it should be. Well, since you asked, I guess I'll tell you...
[cut to something completely unrelated]
Amber: Ha ha! Suck it, readers!
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Netrogo on January 24, 2010, 10:44:42 AM
Quote from: Jakon on January 24, 2010, 09:40:11 AM
I'm pretty sure the next comic will go something like this...

Abel: ...Well. That's the first time anyone's been so direct with me in quite a while.
Wildy: That's my style.
Abel: As well it should be. Well, since you asked, I guess I'll tell you...
[cut to something completely unrelated]
Amber: Ha ha! Suck it, readers!


This is exactly what I was thinking will happen. The ever classic, much be-hated scene change.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: thegayhare on January 24, 2010, 11:08:20 AM
My thoughts are along the lines of wether or not Wildy is gonna tell Abel about Jyrras's cruch on him.

Able suspicious suddenly "... Why do you ask, planning another book?"
Wildy "What? no no nothing like that Just asking for a friend of mine who'd never get the nerve up to ask you himself."

It's times like this when I wish the donation bar convo with Able and fluff tuft was cannon
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: RandomMetaphysics on January 24, 2010, 11:24:30 AM
Abel may reply the same way he did to Fa'Lina, like how he did in this strip, when she informed him about his mother's condition: http://missmab.com/Comics/Ab_070.php

On another note, this could be Wildy's way of making up to Jyrras. You never really know... this is Wildy we're talking about here.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Anker Steadfast on January 24, 2010, 11:39:31 AM
Since this is Abel we're talking about, he could answer with a metaphysical haiku poem.

Leaving all of us confused .. including Wildy.

:D
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: candide on January 24, 2010, 11:59:53 AM
Hmmm... you know, it just occurred to me.

Since Wildy already knows that Jyrras is interested in Abel (see  here) (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_997.php), maybe she'd asking in order to help Jyrras.  She might still feel that she owes him over the whole Janus-Bond-book fiasco.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Lucheek on January 24, 2010, 12:33:21 PM
Amber, you made this a Sunday update on purpose so the forum would have to wait to get the answer for a couple of days didn't you?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: ChaosMageX on January 24, 2010, 02:15:32 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 24, 2010, 08:57:28 AM
The simple answer is "That's none of your business."  If she hassles him, he throws her out.  With 400 years of study he surely has some way of putting her in her place without breaking disguise, Wildy or no...

I'd definitely agree that after 400 years, he'd have several ways of strategically avoiding such a question, but seriously, there's no way he'd be to "throw her out".
Are you forgetting how Wildy managed to kick the butts of several cubi at SAIA? (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_561.php)
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Arcblade on January 24, 2010, 02:24:39 PM
Quote from: Lucheek on January 24, 2010, 12:33:21 PM
Amber, you made this a Sunday update on purpose so the forum would have to wait to get the answer for a couple of days didn't you?

Actually, she said on Mao's 'cast that it was an accident.  Something about doing a Question from the Readers and then forgetting it or something like that.  Not that we believed her.   :mowtongue
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Naldru on January 24, 2010, 02:53:10 PM
There is also the possibility that Abel and Wildy could have a serious heart-to-heart talk following up on this conversation (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_742.php).
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: A. Lurker on January 24, 2010, 03:08:55 PM
Quote from: Naldru on January 24, 2010, 02:53:10 PM
There is also the possibility that Abel and Wildy could have a serious heart-to-heart talk following up on this conversation (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_742.php).

"I turned being alone into an art at the academy."

You know, it occurs to me that Abel may not be quite so sure of his orientation himself. After all, for that to matter, he'd first of all have had to be willing to consider letting somebody get that close...
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Grey Wolf on January 24, 2010, 04:38:33 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on January 24, 2010, 11:08:20 AM
My thoughts are along the lines of wether or not Wildy is gonna tell Abel about Jyrras's cruch on him.

Able suspicious suddenly "... Why do you ask, planning another book?"
Wildy "What? no no nothing like that Just asking for a friend of mine who'd never get the nerve up to ask you himself."

It's times like this when I wish the donation bar convo with Able and fluff tuft was cannon

I don't suppose you have a link, do you?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: ChaosMageX on January 24, 2010, 04:58:23 PM
Quote from: A. Lurker on January 24, 2010, 03:08:55 PM
Quote from: Naldru on January 24, 2010, 02:53:10 PM
There is also the possibility that Abel and Wildy could have a serious heart-to-heart talk following up on this conversation (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_742.php).

"I turned being alone into an art at the academy."

You know, it occurs to me that Abel may not be quite so sure of his orientation himself. After all, for that to matter, he'd first of all have had to be willing to consider letting somebody get that close...

That is actually a very good point.  We never saw him get into anything even remotely close to a romantic relationship during Abel's Story, and as far as we know, after the events of that story he grows even more distant from those around him.

The only hint he'd even have at his own sexual orientation are brief moments of attraction he would have felt towards others at the academy before pushing them from his mind.

Then again, in an academy full of empaths, he probably learned ways to prevent even those brief emotions from surfacing to his conscious mind, so it is a definite possibility that not even he is aware of his own sexual preference, if he even has one at all.  He may just be asexual.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Tapewolf on January 24, 2010, 05:04:09 PM
Quote from: Grey Wolf on January 24, 2010, 04:38:33 PM
I don't suppose you have a link, do you?

http://s490.photobucket.com/albums/rr263/skwerly2/Wars/?start=40
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Tezkat on January 24, 2010, 05:13:40 PM
Food for thought... does Wildy have a mind shield? :dface
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: jeffh4 on January 24, 2010, 05:16:07 PM
Quote from: Ry on January 24, 2010, 08:30:01 AM
I'm asexual and I'd react exactly like that if someone flashed their genitals at me. Either sex.  Asexual doesn't mean you're completely unphased by such things (although I do know an asexual stripper and a couple of people who are way more sex positive than most)- it just means you aren't sexually attracted to anyone.

To quote John Cusack from "The Sure Thing":  Reeeeppprreeeeeesssseeddd!    :)
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 24, 2010, 05:30:17 PM
Quote from: Tezkat on January 24, 2010, 05:13:40 PM
Food for thought... does Wildy have a mind shield? :dface

... Has Abel lowered his enough for it to be useful?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: e_voyager on January 24, 2010, 05:37:06 PM
can wildy read minds?  i don't think it matters one bit if able has a mind shield if she can't ready them in the first place.  still i'm looking forward to able's answer like everyone else here
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Tapewolf on January 24, 2010, 05:46:28 PM
Quote from: e_voyager on January 24, 2010, 05:37:06 PM
can wildy read minds?  i don't think it matters one bit if able has a mind shield if she can't ready them in the first place.

AFAIK Abel has his mind filtering turned up because he doesn't want to hear the patrons.  This would prevent him being able to hear Wildy too.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: iownpants on January 24, 2010, 05:47:29 PM
Wildy does seem to get more and more attractive as the comic goes on, hmmm :3
Though I'm too busy noticing how well Abel's top seems to cling to his frame in that last panel, hm hm hmmm :boogie
Lastly, maybe we'll get a straightforward answer just to confuse everyone expecting a scene cut.  This would be amusing >:3
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Shachza on January 24, 2010, 07:30:06 PM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on January 23, 2010, 11:32:39 PM
Four centuries is a long time to be in school, and one would think that most cubi would get bored and experiment in both directions in that time.  Why limit oneself to just half the school's population?

That's debatable.  There's a pair of powerful shapeshifters in White Wolf's Exalted universe named Rain Deathflyer and Silver Python who have been a couple for something like 700 years.  Silver Python's original sex is not known, though she's usually represented as female, and she switches between male and female regularly.  Rain Deathflyer is strictly male and hetero and still refuses Silver Python's advances when she's running around as a guy.  (Page 54 and 55 of the Manual of Exalted Power: Lunars)

Quote from: Tezkat on January 24, 2010, 05:13:40 PM
Food for thought... does Wildy have a mind shield? :dface

I bet she uses her brother's (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_868.php) tactic.  Something I doubt Abel would fall for.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: candide on January 24, 2010, 07:35:07 PM
Quote from: Shachza on January 24, 2010, 07:30:06 PM
Quote from: Tezkat on January 24, 2010, 05:13:40 PM
Food for thought... does Wildy have a mind shield? :dface
I bet she uses her brother's (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_868.php) tactic.  Something I doubt Abel would fall for.
...except that wasn't Wildy's brother, but Destiana in disguise.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: TheDXM on January 24, 2010, 07:50:40 PM
Even assuming Abel lies to her, I don't think Wildy would fall for it. If there's any personality in this comic to get Abel to talk straight about this sort of thing, it's Wildy.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: 127.0.0.2 on January 24, 2010, 08:25:16 PM
Huh, either Amber just got the 2000th Question-From-The-Readers email asking about this or Wildy has had more adventures on her island than what might be good for her.

I personally hope we'll see at least a reaction from Abel. While having a good How-Can-You-Type-With-Boxing-Gloves joke is never a bad thing, having this done in the main story seems kinda like a wasted cliffhanger. And think of the fans, think of the fans! :U

Quote from: Bjalf on January 24, 2010, 07:12:07 AM
Quote from: Brownie on January 24, 2010, 07:01:31 AM
Didn't Jyrras say Way Back whenthat these kind of things had to be found out in an elaborate plan of some kind? I was trying to find the comic but couldn't.

Strip 997 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_997.php).

I see a new strategy here. When you need something taken care of quickly, easily and possibly violently, drop the mention of complicated plans in the vincinity of Wildy and watch what happens... (But keep a save distance, just to be sure...)
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Shachza on January 25, 2010, 12:34:27 AM
Quote from: candide on January 24, 2010, 07:35:07 PM
...except that wasn't Wildy's brother, but Destiana in disguise.

Quiet you!  Stop ruining my point.   Jyrras has already done it, and I know that I'd try it, so who's to say she doesn't do it anyways?  Though I think she'd be more likely to use scenes from Weapon X. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_X)
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 25, 2010, 02:04:46 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 24, 2010, 05:46:28 PM
Quote from: e_voyager on January 24, 2010, 05:37:06 PM
can wildy read minds?  i don't think it matters one bit if able has a mind shield if she can't ready them in the first place.

AFAIK Abel has his mind filtering turned up because he doesn't want to hear the patrons.  This would prevent him being able to hear Wildy too.

While he keeps a filter up against the general hubbub of the surrounding populace, he can probably focus on individuals to exclude them (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_562.php) from the filter. Or perhaps it's active mind reading bypassing the shield instead. Though there may be little difference between those methods.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Lego3400 on January 25, 2010, 02:42:25 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on January 25, 2010, 02:04:46 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 24, 2010, 05:46:28 PM
Quote from: e_voyager on January 24, 2010, 05:37:06 PM
can wildy read minds?  i don't think it matters one bit if able has a mind shield if she can't ready them in the first place.

AFAIK Abel has his mind filtering turned up because he doesn't want to hear the patrons.  This would prevent him being able to hear Wildy too.

While he keeps a filter up against the general hubbub of the surrounding populace, he can probably focus on individuals to exclude them (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_562.php) from the filter. Or perhaps it's active mind reading bypassing the shield instead. Though there may be little difference between those methods.


Mind reading is very different from thought reading. So says the demo 101 strips.

Second... Bout time someone asked
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: joshofspam on January 25, 2010, 10:00:56 AM
With Cubi being such accomplished shape shifters does the whole strait and gay thing even apply to Cubi?

It wouldn't suppries me if Cubi tend to go both ways if you know what I mean.;)
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: iceick on January 25, 2010, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on January 24, 2010, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: Bjalf on January 24, 2010, 07:12:07 AM
Quote from: Brownie on January 24, 2010, 07:01:31 AM
Didn't Jyrras say Way Back whenthat these kind of things had to be found out in an elaborate plan of some kind? I was trying to find the comic but couldn't.

Strip 997 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_997.php).

I see a new strategy here. When you need something taken care of quickly, easily and possibly violently, drop the mention of complicated plans in the vincinity of Wildy and watch what happens... (But keep a save distance, just to be sure...)

I wonder how much she's going to tease Jyrass with the info she gets from Abel.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Bjalf on January 25, 2010, 01:43:09 PM
Quote from: iceick on January 25, 2010, 01:24:57 PM
I wonder how much she's going to tease Jyrass with the info she gets from Abel.

She's going to tease him to pieces, even if she gets no information at all from Abel. It's just her way of showing that she cares.    :tighthug
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: iceick on January 25, 2010, 01:54:52 PM
Quote from: Bjalf on January 25, 2010, 01:43:09 PM
Quote from: iceick on January 25, 2010, 01:24:57 PM
I wonder how much she's going to tease Jyrass with the info she gets from Abel.

She's going to tease him to pieces, even if she gets no information at all from Abel. It's just her way of showing that she cares.    :tighthug
Does she really care or does she just like to make people miserable? Ooh, she and Abel would make a perfect couple, Wildy making people miserable and Abel feeding off it >:3.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Mao on January 25, 2010, 02:53:46 PM
Oh boy, more shipping.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Lego3400 on January 25, 2010, 03:42:45 PM
Also, I would like to state my theory of Biggs and Wildy being weres. Something about her use of the word man here made me thing about it.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: iceick on January 25, 2010, 04:09:58 PM
Ooh a were that is a human fan :mowdizzy, didn't see that coming ;).
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Keleth on January 25, 2010, 04:10:53 PM
Oh man. I bet Wildy is a were of a human and ferret.

Turning her into the omnipotent being of ANTHRO FERRET!
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: iceick on January 25, 2010, 04:33:26 PM
Of course that would explain why she's so fierce, not to mention were's are immune to magic in human form.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
Why the heck would Abel be gay? After all, even though it's been hundreds of years, he has at one point feared being Sodomized (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_40.php).
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Grey Wolf on January 25, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
Why the heck would Abel be gay? After all, even though it's been hundreds of years, he has at one point feared being Sodomized (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_40.php).

Well, yes, but I think it was less "I'm not gay!" and more "I don't wanna be raped!".
Biiiig difference between that and consensual sex, you know.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
Quote from: Grey Wolf on January 25, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
Why the heck would Abel be gay? After all, even though it's been hundreds of years, he has at one point feared being Sodomized (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_40.php).

Well, yes, but I think it was less "I'm not gay!" and more "I don't wanna be raped!".
Biiiig difference between that and consensual sex, you know.

Still, why would people think he's gay? Is every somewhat feminine man considered gay?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Arcblade on January 25, 2010, 06:09:13 PM
Quote from: Kesh on January 23, 2010, 10:27:02 PM
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on January 23, 2010, 10:09:32 PM
I didn't quite understand the whole "leg man" vs "leg guy" thing.

ie, why was the former confusing for Abel? What made the latter a correction for the former?

He doesn't consider Dan to be a "man" yet.

Could be that, or because he's not human.  Could also be because of this. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leg+man)
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: iceick on January 25, 2010, 06:15:10 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
Quote from: Grey Wolf on January 25, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
Why the heck would Abel be gay? After all, even though it's been hundreds of years, he has at one point feared being Sodomized (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_40.php).

Well, yes, but I think it was less "I'm not gay!" and more "I don't wanna be raped!".
Biiiig difference between that and consensual sex, you know.

Still, why would people think he's gay? Is every somewhat feminine man considered gay?
Your question can be answered here (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_201.php)
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 06:21:36 PM
Quote from: iceick on January 25, 2010, 06:15:10 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
Quote from: Grey Wolf on January 25, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
Why the heck would Abel be gay? After all, even though it's been hundreds of years, he has at one point feared being Sodomized (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_40.php).

Well, yes, but I think it was less "I'm not gay!" and more "I don't wanna be raped!".
Biiiig difference between that and consensual sex, you know.

Still, why would people think he's gay? Is every somewhat feminine man considered gay?
Your question can be answered here (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_201.php)


...How does a guy with a feminine hairstyle getting hit on by a guy who thinks he's a girl explain anything except that guys with long hair are sometimes confused for girls?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Anker Steadfast on January 25, 2010, 06:25:11 PM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on January 25, 2010, 02:53:46 PM
Oh boy, more shipping.

With all the shipping that happens.
We need an emoticon of two mows in a boat.  :D

Alternatively a containership.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Grey Wolf on January 25, 2010, 06:25:30 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
Still, why would people think he's gay? Is every somewhat feminine man considered gay?

Somewhat feminine? Abel? But I digress.
In fiction, yes, some people do assume effeminate men are gay. I'm not one of them, but it isn't an uncommon occurrence.
That said, I personally don't think Abel is gay, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he turns out to be so.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: John Roh on January 25, 2010, 08:16:06 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
Why the heck would Abel be gay? After all, even though it's been hundreds of years, he has at one point feared being Sodomized (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_40.php).

hmm I clicked that for a laugh checked out a few pages after it and saw this http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_50.php any chance Devin is Abels brother? meh this is probably old
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Naldru on January 25, 2010, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: John Roh on January 25, 2010, 08:16:06 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
Why the heck would Abel be gay? After all, even though it's been hundreds of years, he has at one point feared being Sodomized (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_40.php).

hmm I clicked that for a laugh checked out a few pages after it and saw this http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_50.php any chance Devin is Abels brother? meh this is probably old
I remember this argument from a while ago.  However, Aniz/Cid and Devin's father seemed to be totally different psychologically.  The thing that made me reconsider it was the fact the fact that Aniz/Cid had a really fractured mind, making it possible that two personalities could be quite dissimilar.  I'll have to check the wiki, I'm not sure if the discussion showed up there as well.

According to the DMFA wiki, Dan and Devin are not related (http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/Devin).  This means that the Edward/Aniz theory (http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/Edward-Aniz_Theory) would not be compatible with Devin and Abel being related.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: iceick on January 25, 2010, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 06:21:36 PM
Quote from: iceick on January 25, 2010, 06:15:10 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
Quote from: Grey Wolf on January 25, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
Why the heck would Abel be gay? After all, even though it's been hundreds of years, he has at one point feared being Sodomized (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_40.php).

Well, yes, but I think it was less "I'm not gay!" and more "I don't wanna be raped!".
Biiiig difference between that and consensual sex, you know.

Still, why would people think he's gay? Is every somewhat feminine man considered gay?
Your question can be answered here (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_201.php)


...How does a guy with a feminine hairstyle getting hit on by a guy who thinks he's a girl explain anything except that guys with long hair are sometimes confused for girls?
Well he is somewhat feminine with his hair.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Les on January 26, 2010, 12:18:28 AM
Abel is indeed a 'Fancy Lad', and in stories and media audiences tend to expect their fancy lads to fancy other lads.  :boogie

That being said, I think there is something to this theory that Abel is actually asexual or 'undecided'.  Remember, he is a well-practiced 'emotion-jammer' and uses that skill to keep people at a distance in SAIA, his 'fanciness' could be another part of the same 'keep people the hell away' skillset.  Keep in mind that while out here on the wild weird and often fluffy outskirts of the Intertronz Abel may be The New Hotness out in the mainstream his affectations would be more likely to weird people out than attract them.

If that is the case, I wonder what Amber thinks of the resulting, "[Amber] Oooh, I have this great idea for an aloof and standoffish character who acts over-the-top flirty and teasey and immodest and uses shapeshifting to magnify all of the above.  Everybody will be creeped-out being in the same room with him!"

"[Abel] Hi."

"[Fandom] *LUST!*"

:P :U
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Bjalf on January 26, 2010, 02:37:19 AM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
Still, why would people think he's gay? Is every somewhat feminine man considered gay?

It's not a question of "gay or not", it's more a question of "how much (http://www.bisexualindex.org.uk/index.php/Main/BisexualScales)". Very few people are 100% one or the other, and were I to believe the tabloids, then most human males are not only "bi", but "omni" (if it moves ...).

I don't think his perceived femininity is the issue here, he has just not publicly stated his preferences, and just about everybody else have.

I think Abel's just hesitant to form emotional attachments, I really cannot imagine a 400-year-old virgin incubus.


Edit: And Abel does fit the stereotype. He cooks, he's well-dressed, and ... that's all I got.  :B
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Les on January 26, 2010, 02:54:26 AM
The fact that he can nonchalantly grow boobs like it's no big deal does seem to complicate questions of Abel's sexuality.   :3
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Bjalf on January 26, 2010, 02:57:54 AM
Quote from: Les on January 26, 2010, 02:54:26 AM
The fact that he can nonchalantly grow boobs like it's no big deal does seem to complicate questions of Abel's sexuality.   :3

Yeah, and if he was a manly man, he'd grow the manly bits.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Ry on January 26, 2010, 04:55:34 AM
Quote from: jeffh4 on January 24, 2010, 05:16:07 PMTo quote John Cusack from "The Sure Thing":  Reeeeppprreeeeeesssseeddd!    :)
:rolleyes  Because I'm not wanting to look at genitals totally means I'm ashamed of sex.

Quote from: Les on January 26, 2010, 02:54:26 AM
The fact that he can nonchalantly grow boobs like it's no big deal does seem to complicate questions of Abel's sexuality.   :3
Nonchalantly grows boobs and forgets to grow a shirt as well (although that could just be that he's so used to walking around shirtless).  And he didn't just grow breasts- he got the curves going and who knows what else.  Whatever Abel is- he seems pretty damn uninhibited.
I also utterly adored the "What would make you think I'm not a guy?" when he met Lorenda en femme.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Les on January 26, 2010, 05:45:48 AM
Quote from: Ry on January 26, 2010, 04:55:34 AM
Quote from: jeffh4 on January 24, 2010, 05:16:07 PMTo quote John Cusack from "The Sure Thing":  Reeeeppprreeeeeesssseeddd!    :)
:rolleyes  Because I'm not wanting to look at genitals totally means I'm ashamed of sex.

There is however a noticeably difference between reactions like, "Oy, pants, how 'bout it?" and, "AAAAAIEEEE!  The Horror, the horror."  :P

Quote
Quote from: Les on January 26, 2010, 02:54:26 AM
The fact that he can nonchalantly grow boobs like it's no big deal does seem to complicate questions of Abel's sexuality.   :3
Nonchalantly grows boobs and forgets to grow a shirt as well (although that could just be that he's so used to walking around shirtless).  And he didn't just grow breasts- he got the curves going and who knows what else.  Whatever Abel is- he seems pretty damn uninhibited.
I also utterly adored the "What would make you think I'm not a guy?" when he met Lorenda en femme.

Aaaah the joys of gender-subversiveness.   :giggle
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Ry on January 26, 2010, 06:18:30 AM
Quote from: Les on January 26, 2010, 05:45:48 AMThere is however a noticeably difference between reactions like, "Oy, pants, how 'bout it?" and, "AAAAAIEEEE!  The Horror, the horror."  :P
:P  With a friend (and I'm assuming Henya was his friend), I'd go with 'aaieee the horror, the horror'.  With a stranger I'd just roll my eyes and look away, depending on the context I might even chuckle.

QuoteAaaah the joys of gender-subversiveness.   :giggle
I definitely agree.  I'm glad I'm not the only one who appreciates it.   :3
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 26, 2010, 12:36:09 PM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 06:21:36 PM
...How does a guy with a feminine hairstyle getting hit on by a guy who thinks he's a girl explain anything except that guys with long hair are sometimes confused for girls?

It means they need glasses to see more than the long hair. :mowhappy
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: iceick on January 26, 2010, 01:46:49 PM
Of course, whenever I grow my hair long, people kept saying "Excuse me ma'am" when coming up behind me.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: e_voyager on January 26, 2010, 04:41:53 PM
there really is the chance that able is just a big tease you know.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: inuhanyo on January 26, 2010, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: Bjalf on January 26, 2010, 02:37:19 AM
I think Abel's just hesitant to form emotional attachments, I really cannot imagine a 400-year-old virgin incubus.

I'd use a stronger word than "hesitant", myself.
strip 742 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_742.php)
Fa'Lina:"Say Abel ... ever consider not pushing everone away while you're here?"
Abel:"Why not?  I'll be gone in a year or two."
Fa'Lina:"You don't even want to try and make friends with anyone?"
Abel:"Please Fa'Lina. I turned being alone into an art at the Academy.  After hundreds of years, there's nothing I can't handle."


As Abel's story continues, we'll learn the reasons for Abel's avoidance of all relationships,.  Giving Aniz no purchase for threats is one.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: LionHeart on January 26, 2010, 10:12:08 PM
Quote from: Bjalf on January 26, 2010, 02:37:19 AM
Quote from: Techcubi on January 25, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
Still, why would people think he's gay? Is every somewhat feminine man considered gay?

It's not a question of "gay or not", it's more a question of "how much (http://www.bisexualindex.org.uk/index.php/Main/BisexualScales)". Very few people are 100% one or the other, and were I to believe the tabloids, then most human males are not only "bi", but "omni" (if it moves ...).

I don't think his perceived femininity is the issue here, he has just not publicly stated his preferences, and just about everybody else have.

I think Abel's just hesitant to form emotional attachments, I really cannot imagine a 400-year-old virgin incubus.


Edit: And Abel does fit the stereotype. He cooks, he's well-dressed, and ... that's all I got.  :B

And not once has he been seen drinking beer or ogling scantily-clad women....
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Twist on January 26, 2010, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 24, 2010, 05:30:17 PM
Quote from: Tezkat on January 24, 2010, 05:13:40 PM
Food for thought... does Wildy have a mind shield? :dface

... Has Abel lowered his enough for it to be useful?

"Are you Gay" Is probably enough provocation for him to start paying attention to what the Wildy is thinking, which means if she would think about why she asked the question he would know everything.

Quote from: Ry on January 26, 2010, 04:55:34 AM
Quote from: jeffh4 on January 24, 2010, 05:16:07 PMTo quote John Cusack from "The Sure Thing":  Reeeeppprreeeeeesssseeddd!    :)
:rolleyes  Because I'm not wanting to look at genitals totally means I'm ashamed of sex.

Quote from: Les on January 26, 2010, 02:54:26 AM
The fact that he can nonchalantly grow boobs like it's no big deal does seem to complicate questions of Abel's sexuality.   :3
Nonchalantly grows boobs and forgets to grow a shirt as well (although that could just be that he's so used to walking around shirtless).  And he didn't just grow breasts- he got the curves going and who knows what else.  Whatever Abel is- he seems pretty damn uninhibited.
I also utterly adored the "What would make you think I'm not a guy?" when he met Lorenda en femme.


That scene makes more sense in terms of Ables favorite food than his sexuality.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 26, 2010, 11:56:09 PM
Quote from: LionHeart on January 26, 2010, 10:12:08 PM
And not once has he been seen drinking beer or ogling scantily-clad women....

No, he just insults scantily-clad drunk women with rejection.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Shachza on January 27, 2010, 12:07:03 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on January 26, 2010, 11:56:09 PM
Quote from: LionHeart on January 26, 2010, 10:12:08 PM
And not once has he been seen drinking beer or ogling scantily-clad women....

No, he just insults scantily-clad drunk women with rejection.

There's a huge difference between happy-tipsy and IMGOINGTOKILLSOMETHINGBECAUSEIWASJUSTDUMPED-drunk.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: The Only Man Ever on January 27, 2010, 07:40:26 AM
Wait. This question hasn't been answered yet?
It's been 3 years and I return to find this question yet unanswered.
Bugger.
(On a side note I have a few hundred comics to catch up on.)
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Ry on January 27, 2010, 08:08:27 AM
Quote from: Twist on January 26, 2010, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: Ry on January 26, 2010, 04:55:34 AM
Nonchalantly grows boobs and forgets to grow a shirt as well (although that could just be that he's so used to walking around shirtless).  And he didn't just grow breasts- he got the curves going and who knows what else.  Whatever Abel is- he seems pretty damn uninhibited.
I also utterly adored the "What would make you think I'm not a guy?" when he met Lorenda en femme.


That scene makes more sense in terms of Ables favorite food than his sexuality.
:P I wasn't implying it had anything to do with his sexuality, I just thought it was awesome. Honestly, if he continues doing things like that I think I'll love him even more if he turns out to be straight.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Arcblade on January 28, 2010, 11:46:52 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on January 26, 2010, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: Bjalf on January 26, 2010, 02:37:19 AM
I think Abel's just hesitant to form emotional attachments, I really cannot imagine a 400-year-old virgin incubus.

I'd use a stronger word than "hesitant", myself.
strip 742 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_742.php)
Fa'Lina:"Say Abel ... ever consider not pushing everone away while you're here?"
Abel:"Why not?  I'll be gone in a year or two."
Fa'Lina:"You don't even want to try and make friends with anyone?"
Abel:"Please Fa'Lina. I turned being alone into an art at the Academy.  After hundreds of years, there's nothing I can't handle."


As Abel's story continues, we'll learn the reasons for Abel's avoidance of all relationships,.  Giving Aniz no purchase for threats is one.

This is an excellent point.  He's fooling himself, however, if he thinks he's ready for anything.  Being emotionally open (or even not entirely closed off) hands you a whole new set of problems to deal with. 

It might be more than no blackmail material for Aniz, but that's probably a big part of it.  Well said. 
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Les on January 28, 2010, 12:03:00 PM
I've been wondering.  Given how the time of Aniz's next possible resurfacing is coming up, how will that event be affected by Dan, who was a competant adventurer before getting Cubi powers and is a member of the presumably quite powerful Cyra clan (and Destania's son to boot.)?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Arcblade on January 28, 2010, 12:27:21 PM
He did swear a vow to avoid fighting with 'Cubi at all costs (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_603.php). 

I'm guessing he's not going to be too thrilled with the goings on, of course.  But he might also be too busy trying to smack down Dark Pegasus. 
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 28, 2010, 11:01:24 PM
Now that he knows the reason for it, is he still bound as strongly by his vow?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Infranscia on January 29, 2010, 02:07:43 AM
Well, I am kinda glad the direct approach is used.  Some people just dodge using a direct question too much.

Of course, I think there's a chance that Abel would stubbornly avoid a (direct) answer, leading to 1. teasing the readers 2. Wildy resorting to *cough* other means, which would mean 3. Abel not getting his compensation because it would be impossible to tell if the boo-boo on his cheek is really from Genesis or if it's a Wildy related injury (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1081.php) (check the comic title, too).  It would probably be in that order, too.  Admittedly, I'd kinda like to see something like that, if only for the funny.


Oh, and Amber, I'd just like to comment that I like the current text at the top of the window... the page-title or whatever it's called.  :mowsmile  Hehe, yay WC2!
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 29, 2010, 03:38:48 AM
Quote from: Infranscia on January 29, 2010, 02:07:43 AM
Oh, and Amber, I'd just like to comment that I like the current text at the top of the window... the page-title or whatever it's called.  :mowsmile  Hehe, yay WC2!

"You're making me seasick."
"Hurgh!"
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on January 29, 2010, 07:40:56 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 29, 2010, 03:38:48 AM
Quote from: Infranscia on January 29, 2010, 02:07:43 AM
Oh, and Amber, I'd just like to comment that I like the current text at the top of the window... the page-title or whatever it's called.  :mowsmile  Hehe, yay WC2!

"You're making me seasick."
"Hurgh!"

Don't you have a forum to run?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 29, 2010, 04:39:12 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on January 29, 2010, 07:40:56 AM
Don't you have a forum to run?

Why did you think I was posting here? ;-]
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: inuhanyo on February 01, 2010, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on January 28, 2010, 11:01:24 PM
Now that he knows the reason for it, is he still bound as strongly by his vow?

Yes.  Knowing the reason for it has nothing to do with the vow being in force or not.  Dan made a promise, and only the one he made the promise to (his mom) can release him from it.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: AmigaDragon on February 01, 2010, 11:41:58 PM
Now that he knows (and she knows that he's now aware), I wonder how long it'll take her to release him (in person, by mail or other)... weeks, months, years?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Tapewolf on February 02, 2010, 04:12:11 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 01, 2010, 11:41:58 PM
Now that he knows (and she knows that he's now aware), I wonder how long it'll take her to release him (in person, by mail or other)... weeks, months, years?

Is Dan going to feel obliged to keep his vow when he finds out that she's been teaching rape, murder and soul-stealing the last few thousand years, and that could easily be stepping up to genocide?
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Mrs_A_ZeTavia on February 02, 2010, 07:05:53 PM
I don't know why, but all of a sudden i'm remined of these two comics.......

http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_537.php
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_538.php

I had no idea girls were tainted, or that touch in general was tainted. Guess you learn something new each day, huh.....  :P
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: inuhanyo on February 02, 2010, 09:12:16 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 02, 2010, 04:12:11 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 01, 2010, 11:41:58 PM
Now that he knows (and she knows that he's now aware), I wonder how long it'll take her to release him (in person, by mail or other)... weeks, months, years?

Is Dan going to feel obliged to keep his vow when he finds out that she's been teaching rape, murder and soul-stealing the last few thousand years, and that could easily be stepping up to genocide?

Promises don't automatically come with an escape clause that cancels them because the promisee turns out to be a villain.  And Dan would have had no reason to ask for such an escape clause.

So it really comes down to whether or not Dan is going to break a promise he made to his mom, just because her history before he was born is black.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: Tapewolf on February 03, 2010, 04:20:51 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 02, 2010, 09:12:16 PM
Promises don't automatically come with an escape clause that cancels them because the promisee turns out to be a villain.

Yes, but it's not a geas either.  At least, I assume not.  Barring any evidence to the contrary, I would say Dan keeps the vow out of respect for his mother (with a helping of self-respect as well).
If he decides that it's worth breaking that vow for the greater good, he could.  And if he loses his respect for his mother, or realises that she is just the sort of monster that he pledged to slay as an adventurer, I wouldn't place too many bets on it holding.
He's already threated/attempted to kill Aary twice (since she stopped trying to kill him - 383 and 386) and in strip 534 threatened Fa'Lina - which naturally, didn't work out too well.   (Granted, the vow idea may well have come later.)

QuoteSo it really comes down to whether or not Dan is going to break a promise he made to his mom, just because her history before he was born is black.
Dan might be able to believe that she has reformed.  I'd like to and I don't even have his motivation for thinking so.
I would say the deciding factor is whether her current actions - which appear to include genocide - are enough to make him break his vow.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: AmigaDragon on February 03, 2010, 08:12:26 PM
But right now he probably has no clue about her anti-dragon activities, and all her teaching of "evil" subjects happened before she met Edward (to our knowledge so far). Other than what he's heard from other 'cubi and Fi, all he knows of her is a loving mother.
Title: Re: 23/01/10 [DMFA #1082] - The big question
Post by: inuhanyo on February 04, 2010, 09:11:48 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 03, 2010, 04:20:51 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on February 02, 2010, 09:12:16 PM
Promises don't automatically come with an escape clause that cancels them because the promisee turns out to be a villain.

Yes, but it's not a geas either.  At least, I assume not.  Barring any evidence to the contrary, I would say Dan keeps the vow out of respect for his mother (with a helping of self-respect as well).

Yes, I've just been discussing it from a philosophical/ethical perspective.