The Clockwork Mansion

Village Square => The Lost Lake Inn => Topic started by: StrawberryPistol87 on December 31, 2009, 08:37:05 AM

Title: The last Unicorn
Post by: StrawberryPistol87 on December 31, 2009, 08:37:05 AM
Something happened when i wanst here.
this? http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_853.php
c'mon Amber Unicorn's arnt just horses with horns.
i remember the last unicorn movie very well.
you cant see their horns when you dont believe in them
they can revive you. the can magically attack you with the horns.

EDIT in the last univorn movie/book it was based on a gazelle (so not really horse with horn.)

"The unicorn is the only fabulous beast that does not seem to have been conceived out of human fears. In even the earliest references he is fierce yet good, selfless yet solitary, but always mysteriously beautiful. He could be captured only by unfair means, and his single horn was said to neutralize poison." -wikipedia.
more about this 'Fabulous beast'  in wiki
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Tapewolf on December 31, 2009, 08:56:37 AM
Quote from: StrawberryPistol87 on December 31, 2009, 08:37:05 AM
c'mon Amber Unicorn's arnt just horses with horns.

Amber's take on incubi and succubi is quite different to the medieval portrayal.  Demons and angels even more so, and her undead are pretty far out.  If her take on the unicorn is that it's a horse with a horn rather than the weird, cosmically good thing in Legend, that is entirely up to her  :3
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Scarydragon on December 31, 2009, 09:04:58 AM
Quote from: StrawberryPistol87 on December 31, 2009, 08:37:05 AM
And if you fear horses you should overcome your fear. no offense but if you fear something it should rather be ghosts.

Telling someone to get over their fear of something because it's not a 'traditional' fear is kinda rude, especially if it's because you happen to like said thing (or simply think it's not a scary thing).

Secondly, horses are indeed kind of scary. Think about it, large, heavy, strong, hard feet, inclined to freaking out for no apparent reason. Horses are indeed something to be wary of.

Besides, being afraid of horses is nothing compared to some of the other things people fear. I know a guy who is afraid of sticking his hand into a couch to look for lost change.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: StrawberryPistol87 on December 31, 2009, 10:29:34 AM
Quote from: Scarydragon on December 31, 2009, 09:04:58 AM
Quote from: StrawberryPistol87 on December 31, 2009, 08:37:05 AM
And if you fear horses you should overcome your fear. no offense but if you fear something it should rather be ghosts.

Telling someone to get over their fear of something because it's not a 'traditional' fear is kinda rude, especially if it's because you happen to like said thing (or simply think it's not a scary thing).

Secondly, horses are indeed kind of scary. Think about it, large, heavy, strong, hard feet, inclined to freaking out for no apparent reason. Horses are indeed something to be wary of.

Besides, being afraid of horses is nothing compared to some of the other things people fear. I know a guy who is afraid of sticking his hand into a couch to look for lost change.

I agree.  with you. sorry for my rudeness. i will add my last comment. my apologies.
off course i dont know what happened back then.
but geez evryone make mistakes. dont point it out. pm me first. :kirby
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 31, 2009, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: StrawberryPistol87 on December 31, 2009, 10:29:34 AM
but geez evryone make mistakes. dont point it out. pm me first. :kirby

You posted. He posted. Seems fair to me.

If you don't want people to post pointing out your mistakes, be careful not to make them in the first place.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Naldru on December 31, 2009, 12:34:54 PM
My grandfather would never let my mother ride a horse.  He was a doctor, and had seen too many accidents.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: ooklah on December 31, 2009, 01:09:58 PM
I was in a horse buggy accident once. Two buzzer kites scared the horse, horse took off, and crashed the buggy into a house. The buggy was destroyed and the house wall didn't fair too well either. (period house, not modern day house) We all went to the hospital.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: StrawberryPistol87 on December 31, 2009, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 31, 2009, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: StrawberryPistol87 on December 31, 2009, 10:29:34 AM
but geez evryone make mistakes. dont point it out. pm me first. :kirby

You posted. He posted. Seems fair to me.

If you don't want people to post pointing out your mistakes, be careful not to make them in the first place.

okay, i will remember that for the next time.
before i whrite something stupid. okay i agree with the other people have written too.
fear is a complicated thing. :mowsad
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Amber Williams on December 31, 2009, 03:21:42 PM
About 20 people a year die from horse-related deaths. About 0 people a year die from ghost-related deaths.  Ghosts however have a really impressive Hollywood track-record of making movies that people want to see and get scared by.

As for unicorns, the reason in DMFA they are ultimately horses with horns is because of the same reason vampires got snuffed out:  There is already a large surplus of magical and mysterious creatures in DMFA and it would serve no purpose trying to cram every single mythical beast in and actually expect that mythical creature to have any particular uniqueness.   As such, it is far easier to just figure "unicorns" in DMFA are equines who happen to have a single horn. 
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Anker Steadfast on December 31, 2009, 03:28:14 PM
So Unicorns are a fashion statement then ?  :D
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Amber Williams on December 31, 2009, 03:33:26 PM
They could be. They could be the result of demonic or mythos blood in them since both demons and mythos have variations that have only one horn.  They could be simply a fashion statement done by various types who feel it is aesthetically pleasing.

If I wanted to be incredibly crass I could whip up a Jesus-like figure who did use their magics mainly for healing and miracles via the horn and thus caused a cult-like following.  But I don't want to get myself lynched by religious types.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Anker Steadfast on December 31, 2009, 04:49:37 PM
Hrm ... maybe they did like wildy and got themselves a coupon for a free tail surgery.
Well, with horns offcourse, not tails.
Unless unicorns are tailless?

OH - And Happy new years :)
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Chakat Blackspots on December 31, 2009, 05:40:26 PM
Amber's fear of horses probably stems from something that happened to her as a child.  Most fears that hold until adulthood usually occur because of something that happened as a kid.

Horses are quite grand animals, I'm not afraid of them, but I do respect them and I am very careful not to startle them or be directly behind them.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Lego3400 on January 01, 2010, 12:18:15 PM
I have a slight fear of going into a dark room with a mirror. Weirdest fear ever.... Except for Arachibutyrophobia, the fear of peanutbutter getting stuck to the roof of your mouth :3
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Dwarg91 on January 01, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
Quote from: Lego3400 on January 01, 2010, 12:18:15 PM
I have a slight fear of going into a dark room with a mirror. Weirdest fear ever.... Except for Arachibutyrophobia, the fear of peanutbutter getting stuck to the roof of your mouth :3
You aren't the only one who fears going into a dark room with a mirror, though I wonder how that fear gets started? Also Arachibutyrophobia is a very weird fear.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: A. Lurker on January 01, 2010, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Dwarg91 on January 01, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
You aren't the only one who fears going into a dark room with a mirror, though I wonder how that fear gets started?

That's actually easy, I think. Because if you stop to think about it for a moment, mirrors are weird. You can see this other person in the mirror who's supposed to be you...but what if they're not? And you never really know what they're doing when you're not looking...

Now walk into a dark room containing one of these eerie devices. Go ahead. I dare you. :bat
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Attic Rat on January 01, 2010, 05:36:14 PM
You know what's weirder, but probably related? A slight unease sleeping in a room with the window curtains pulled ALMOST shut. Open is OK, closed is OK, but that little gap is annoying. Someone could look in without you seeing them..!
:erk
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Naldru on January 01, 2010, 06:23:51 PM
The fear of mirrors is sufficiently common for it to have its own category in the medical literature. (http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=12286)

If you enter "fear of mirrors" in Google, you will see a great many entries, of which the following are just the first two that seemed appropriate.

http://www.depression-guide.com/phobia/catoptrophobia.html

http://psychology.suite101.com/article.cfm/eisotrophobia_explained

*** ***

Regarding how dangerous horses, are I ran across this item on the web (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_HUMAN_DEATHS_ARE_CAUSED_BY_DANGEROUS_ANIMALS).  However, I would really feel better about the article if it referenced a source.

Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Anker Steadfast on January 01, 2010, 08:22:57 PM
Quote from: Naldru on January 01, 2010, 06:23:51 PM
Regarding how dangerous horses, are I ran across this item on the web (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_HUMAN_DEATHS_ARE_CAUSED_BY_DANGEROUS_ANIMALS).  However, I would really feel better about the article if it referenced a source.

Here's a quick listing of what was written there :

Average Number of Deaths per Year in the U.S
Bee/Wasp 53
Dogs 31
Horse 20
Spider 6.5
Rattlesnake 5.5
Bull 3
Mountain lion 1
Shark 1
Alligator 0.3
Bear 0.5
Scorpion 0.5
Centipede 0.5
Elephant 0.25
Wolf 0.1

A source would indeed have been good, but even so .. bees kills most!
And horses are 200 times more likely to kill you than wolves!

Yeah, an official source, and perhaps a worldwide one too, would be good to have.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Anker Steadfast on January 01, 2010, 08:39:29 PM
So, I decided to do some searching to see if there was some official statistics on animal killings in the real world.
Normally, if a cat dies, you'd just blame curiosity. And sometimes, with humans too!
But Google came up with brand new search ideas as I typed in "killed by" :

(http://naut6g.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pMNyERDUsNBQRixby5hSosLElcca5WufF4lCEC_u7-xAL2GqY7jsNq9csUH0O7UdcK3w4-3Dn1YmaxZTo9PRNunsWLXsNSoYm/killed_by_condom.png)

You know ... I would never have had the imagination to search for killer condoms ... never!
Proof that reality by far exceeds fantasy. :D

The real world is weird!!!
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: ooklah on January 02, 2010, 05:14:34 AM
googles auto completer is bizzare. In fact, here's a whole website dedicated to google's auto-complete:

http://autocompleteme.com/

=D
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Anker Steadfast on January 02, 2010, 05:27:09 AM
Yes, but when you search for "killed by condom" ... there's actually a hit !
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Naldru on January 02, 2010, 06:30:57 AM
I did some research on the list.  It looks like bees/wasps are higher than that list indicated and are almost entirely due to severe allergic reactions.  So the question would be whether the cause of death gets listed as anaphylactic shock (severe allergic reaction) or insect bite.

It looks like death by horses is also understated.  Death could be listed as simply fall rather than fall from a horse.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: StrawberryPistol87 on January 02, 2010, 10:23:14 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on December 31, 2009, 03:21:42 PM
About 20 people a year die from horse-related deaths. About 0 people a year die from ghost-related deaths.  Ghosts however have a really impressive Hollywood track-record of making movies that people want to see and get scared by.

As for unicorns, the reason in DMFA they are ultimately horses with horns is because of the same reason vampires got snuffed out:  There is already a large surplus of magical and mysterious creatures in DMFA and it would serve no purpose trying to cram every single mythical beast in and actually expect that mythical creature to have any particular uniqueness.   As such, it is far easier to just figure "unicorns" in DMFA are equines who happen to have a single horn. 

Does amber also fear vampires then?
since they suddendly are gone.
also amber didnt bother what i whrote about unicorns. it seems.
but like my parents say; you should concure your fear or you would allways live in it.
im not saying you should do that. but its one of the things you could do.
then again. i dont nknow how a person feels that got attacked by a dog,cat, hatever long time ago. but; i know someone that has a fear (not telling what or who)
but concures it. of course he/she still feel nervous next to it.
but at least he/she isnt controlled by fear. sorry if offend anyone.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Tapewolf on January 02, 2010, 10:38:03 AM
Quote from: StrawberryPistol87 on January 02, 2010, 10:23:14 AM
Does amber also fear vampires then?
since they suddendly are gone.

I think Amber's fear was of unbalancing the DMFA world too much, in which case it could be said that killing off the vampires was indeed her way of conquering it  >:3

For what it's worth, the vampire extinction seems to have happened recently.  They were still extant as a race during Abel's youth (See Abel 1.57 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Abel_57.php))
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Anker Steadfast on January 02, 2010, 11:05:24 AM
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there were a single vampire hiding out somewhere ....
Perhaps a Vampire that lives far away in a deep deep forest .. or perhaps he just missed the memo.

Plenty of possibilities, but as a "race" .. they are gone.

And as for unicorns, in Ambers world, they are horsies with pretty horns.
Her world, her rules. :)
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 02, 2010, 11:17:10 AM
Quote from: StrawberryPistol87 on January 02, 2010, 10:23:14 AM
Does amber also fear vampires then?
since they suddendly are gone.
also amber didnt bother what i whrote about unicorns. it seems.
but like my parents say; you should concure your fear or you would allways live in it.
im not saying you should do that. but its one of the things you could do.
then again. i dont nknow how a person feels that got attacked by a dog,cat, hatever long time ago. but; i know someone that has a fear (not telling what or who)
but concures it. of course he/she still feel nervous next to it.
but at least he/she isnt controlled by fear. sorry if offend anyone.

I concur; suddenly conquering your fears is something everyone should manage. I'm not sure I know how it would be managed, though. Whatever happens, I'm happy that Amber has spent the time she has doing the webcomic that she has, and that she's decided to share it with us all.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 02, 2010, 04:40:27 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 02, 2010, 11:17:10 AM
Quote from: StrawberryPistol87 on January 02, 2010, 10:23:14 AM
but like my parents say; you should concure your fear or you would allways live in it.
...
i know someone that has a fear (not telling what or who) but concures it. of course he/she still feel nervous next to it. but at least he/she isnt controlled by fear. sorry if offend anyone.

I concur; suddenly conquering your fears is something everyone should manage. I'm not sure I know how it would be managed, though.
llearch, you conquered my fear of concurring fears before I could get to it, I'm (con)cured! :mowhappy
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Lego3400 on January 02, 2010, 04:44:07 PM
Quote from: A. Lurker on January 01, 2010, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Dwarg91 on January 01, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
You aren't the only one who fears going into a dark room with a mirror, though I wonder how that fear gets started?

That's actually easy, I think. Because if you stop to think about it for a moment, mirrors are weird. You can see this other person in the mirror who's supposed to be you...but what if they're not? And you never really know what they're doing when you're not looking...

Now walk into a dark room containing one of these eerie devices. Go ahead. I dare you. :bat
Mine actually originated when I heard the story of Bloody Mary as a kid. (The one that pops out of a mirror in the dark).
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: seuta on January 02, 2010, 05:13:34 PM
Random thought inbound: What would you call an equine with two horns then?  A bicorn?
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Anker Steadfast on January 02, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
Quote from: seuta on January 02, 2010, 05:13:34 PM
Random thought inbound: What would you call an equine with two horns then?  A bicorn?

A cow ?
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: AmigaDragon on January 02, 2010, 11:28:36 PM
And you're a biclopse.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Chakat Blackspots on January 03, 2010, 11:40:26 AM
Quote from: Naldru on January 02, 2010, 06:30:57 AM
I did some research on the list.  It looks like bees/wasps are higher than that list indicated and are almost entirely due to severe allergic reactions.  So the question would be whether the cause of death gets listed as anaphylactic shock (severe allergic reaction) or insect bite.

It looks like death by horses is also understated.  Death could be listed as simply fall rather than fall from a horse.

I would figure that many deaths are caused things such as people trying to break a horse, which leads to a fall, to which the horse might retaliate and kick and stomp on you.  Also, a horse might have been spooked by something, raise up on its back legs and accidentally kick the person holding its lead rope, or the horse suddenly runs off with the person still holding on to the reigns or lead rope and the horse jumps over something and the person falls into or hits the thing the horse jumps over..
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: A. Lurker on January 03, 2010, 01:02:04 PM
Quote from: Anker Steadfast on January 02, 2010, 11:05:24 AM
And as for unicorns, in Ambers world, they are horsies with pretty horns.
Her world, her rules. :)

Beats some of the speculative RL origins of the myth. ;) Rhinoceros? Narwhal? Some kind of antelope? Wikipedia even suggests goats surgically altered as kids so that their horns would grow together (which makes it the first time ever I've heard of that practice, but supposedly it works)...
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Amber Williams on January 03, 2010, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: StrawberryPistol87 on January 02, 2010, 10:23:14 AM
Does amber also fear vampires then?
since they suddendly are gone.
also amber didnt bother what i whrote about unicorns. it seems.
but like my parents say; you should concure your fear or you would allways live in it.
im not saying you should do that. but its one of the things you could do.
then again. i dont nknow how a person feels that got attacked by a dog,cat, hatever long time ago. but; i know someone that has a fear (not telling what or who)
but concures it. of course he/she still feel nervous next to it.
but at least he/she isnt controlled by fear. sorry if offend anyone.

I removed vampires from DMFA continuity for almost the same reason I wrote out unicorns, in that in terms of making a semi-functional universe, you cannot overstuff it full of every single paranormal or mythological thing. There just isn't enough room at the top for all those type of things.

As for my supposed fear of horses, I think I handle it quite well in that I never encounter horses.  It isn't like I have to deal with horses on a day to day basis. And I am perfectly happy giving them an apple slice from across a fence. I just don't feel comfortable being close to them or riding on them.  And in this day in age where horses are more a novelty than a necessity, I doubt I will ever find myself in a situation where I would need to.

I am not phobic of horses. I just don't like them.

As for the stuff you mentioned about unicorns, I did read it. However I was already aware of most of that information beforehand.  Which is to say that it doesn't have an influence on my decision-making in how I handled unicorns in DMFA's continuity.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Chakat Blackspots on January 05, 2010, 08:25:16 PM
I can see how having every type of creature and being in DMFA would make it rather complicated.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Psy-Kosh on January 05, 2010, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: kusanagi-sama on January 05, 2010, 08:25:16 PM
I can see how having every type of creature and being in DMFA would make it rather complicated.

The Hybrid Genetics mini sequence would be larger than Abel's Story!
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Attic Rat on January 05, 2010, 10:38:06 PM
It would be the person having absolutely no fear of horses who should be kept far from horses. Respect incorporates a bit of fear, and any horse, especially one who's habits and quirks are unknown, deserves respect. Their instincts are wired for self-preservation as prey animals, and a confused or frightened horse is a danger to itself and everyone around.

Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Naldru on January 07, 2010, 09:33:19 PM
The really scary thing is that there are some people who care for large cats who have no fear of their charges because they have been working with them so long.  They make the news when the cat takes a swipe at them and their usual comment is "I don't understand it.  I've been working with him for years and he's never done anything like this before."

One image that sticks in my mind was a television interview with a circus lion tamer that took place many years ago.  The question was "What is the most important thing to learn if you want to be a lion tamer?" and his response was "To know when the lion wants to be left alone."
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Turnsky on January 07, 2010, 09:55:29 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 03, 2010, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: StrawberryPistol87 on January 02, 2010, 10:23:14 AM
Does amber also fear vampires then?
since they suddendly are gone.
also amber didnt bother what i whrote about unicorns. it seems.
but like my parents say; you should concure your fear or you would allways live in it.
im not saying you should do that. but its one of the things you could do.
then again. i dont nknow how a person feels that got attacked by a dog,cat, hatever long time ago. but; i know someone that has a fear (not telling what or who)
but concures it. of course he/she still feel nervous next to it.
but at least he/she isnt controlled by fear. sorry if offend anyone.

I removed vampires from DMFA continuity for almost the same reason I wrote out unicorns, in that in terms of making a semi-functional universe, you cannot overstuff it full of every single paranormal or mythological thing. There just isn't enough room at the top for all those type of things.


of course that doesn't stop one for writing out a creative demise for them..
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Scow2 on January 11, 2010, 03:55:45 PM
Quote from: Naldru on January 07, 2010, 09:33:19 PM
The really scary thing is that there are some people who care for large cats who have no fear of their charges because they have been working with them so long.  They make the news when the cat takes a swipe at them and their usual comment is "I don't understand it.  I've been working with him for years and he's never done anything like this before."
And on the other hand, there's an almost stereotypical family of four that has about a dozen Big Cats as "typical" family pets, and they've never had problems. I think the number is 6 leopards, 4 lynx, 3 jaguars, 6 pumas... And they all act like oversized housecats.

Personally, I want to get a license to own a pet cheetah. Unlike other Big Cats, they aren't aggressive due to a number of factors in their environment, and can be tamed... Seeing that they are heading to become extinct in the wild no matter what we do or don't do (They are genetically decaying)... captivity/cloning/pets I see as the best way to keep the species alive, and possibly thriving.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Alondro on January 11, 2010, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: Scow2 on January 11, 2010, 03:55:45 PM
And on the other hand, there's an almost stereotypical family of four that has about a dozen Big Cats as "typical" family pets, and they've never had problems. I think the number is 6 leopards, 4 lynx, 3 jaguars, 6 pumas... And they all act like oversized housecats.

That's quite impressive, actually.  Leopards tend to be far more solitary and aggressive than lions or tigers.  It's the main reason they're rarely used for shows.  They are very difficult to train and highly unpredictable.  Only jaguars are more difficult.  And I see they have 3 of those too!  They must be either have a very cleverly devised training regimen (assuming they come in close contact), or just keep them in their enclosures all the time.

Interestingly, it's the tiger that tends to be the easiest to train.  They are not truly solitary.  They have a semi-sociable nature like housecats, and when raised together will cohabitate quite easily.  The 'pride' behavior of lions and their more complex personalities makes some of them have rapid mood swings and occaisionally fits of obsessive territoriality, especially in dark-maned males (higher testosterone levels).

Cheetahs are very tamable.  Egyptians used to use them in a manner identical to hunting dogs.  They are also distantly related to the other big cats, and do not even have retractable claws.  They have a high degree of genetic homogeneity, due to an apparently severe population bottleneck around the end of the last Ice Age, possibly due to a rapid shift in the savannah-desert regions in Africa.  Indeed, archaological evidence suggests that the present Sahara may have formed from what was once a fertile grassland in a mere 100 years or so, as the monsoon band deviated sharply southward.  This shift will reverse if there is another Ice Age in the future.

*Charles is smrt, wif branze*   :B
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: LizardSaul on January 12, 2010, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on January 02, 2010, 11:28:36 PM
And you're a biclopse.
A biclops is what you hear when a horse takes two steps towards you. Get it? Biclops.
Title: Re: The last Unicorn
Post by: Shachza on January 12, 2010, 02:11:41 PM
Quote from: Alondro on January 11, 2010, 04:19:21 PM
Cheetahs are very tamable.  Egyptians used to use them in a manner identical to hunting dogs.  They are also distantly related to the other big cats, and do not even have retractable claws.  They have a high degree of genetic homogeneity, due to an apparently severe population bottleneck around the end of the last Ice Age, possibly due to a rapid shift in the savannah-desert regions in Africa.  Indeed, archaological evidence suggests that the present Sahara may have formed from what was once a fertile grassland in a mere 100 years or so, as the monsoon band deviated sharply southward.  This shift will reverse if there is another Ice Age in the future.

*Charles is smrt, wif branze*   :B

Correct, that monsoon shift was about 8000 years ago.  (According to How the Earth Was Made on the History Channel)  There are some neat rock paintings in desolate parts of the Sahara of people asking for more rain that date from then.  There are also lake beds full of fresh water clam shells from the same time period, in the middle of the Sahara.    The prediction is that the Sahara will shift back in 12000 years and turn fertile again.  The monsoon tracks have less to do with the Ice Ages and more to do with the little wobbles in Earth's own rotation.