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Title: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on August 23, 2009, 12:22:58 AM
Amber is going to kill off two characters!

Edit:
Fixed your topic. Fixed your post.
    -- llearch n'n'daCorna
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Mao on August 23, 2009, 12:31:52 AM
Not necessarily.  The Fae may be all powerful, but the problem with that is that there's more than one.  Just because Mab thinks it's going to end that way, doesn't mean it will.  Beyond that, things die and come back in fantasy, I wouldn't read too much into it.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Turnsky on August 23, 2009, 12:35:01 AM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on August 23, 2009, 12:31:52 AM
Not necessarily.  The Fae may be all powerful, but the problem with that is that there's more than one.  Just because Mab thinks it's going to end that way, doesn't mean it will.  Beyond that, things die and come back in fantasy, I wouldn't read too much into it.

after all, Dan got better from being dead.  :U
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: LoneHowler on August 23, 2009, 12:35:21 AM
And people complained of lack of plot forwarding last update. Now we get to much way to much I say! I hate spoilers
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Baal Hadad on August 23, 2009, 12:54:08 AM
I'm not even sure I know who "the five" are (though I'm guessing Dan, Alexsi, Wildy, Merlitz, and Jyrras--I don't think Pip counts), let alone who "the two" or "the one" are.  I'm not even sure each "the one" is the SAME "the one."

:S

Yeah--Ba'al Hadad is very confused now....
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: SuaveIV on August 23, 2009, 01:07:07 AM
...yup, that was an aardvark...

...and now comes the fun part...

...seeing if Amber can handle TEH SERIOUS BUISNESS.

I have hope.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Psy-Kosh on August 23, 2009, 01:09:45 AM
And things have gotten decidedly darker... This should be interesting. :)
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Ted Schiller on August 23, 2009, 01:10:43 AM
Which likely means certain beings will not die.  I had fantasies of a thousand-year-old Dan visiting the grave of Wildy.  Looks like it will happen the other way.   :confused

With regards,
Ted

Edited:
Spell check doesn't get everything.   :sweatdrop
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on August 23, 2009, 01:16:13 AM
Actually, my first thought of the statement was the flash of "everyone dies", which translated into "3 of them become immortal?"

Although she probably means, "Die imminently" or, "Die in context of these actions."


Now I'm going to have to spend mental effort figuring out what these boons were though. Presumably Jyrras isn't one of the ones that Mab is sure of dying, or she wouldn't be spending so much effort on insuring his safety above everyone elses.


Unless it's a bizarre Xanatos gambit. Maybe I should post again when I turn my paranoia a bit down.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Saist on August 23, 2009, 01:18:23 AM
... oh come on. Does anybody actually STAY DEAD in this comic?
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Alondro on August 23, 2009, 01:20:24 AM
*Charline hmms*  One may destroy the world, eh?  Must be Wildy.   :3

And now the comic shall descend into a sea of angst and suffering!  Misery upon misery shall befall the characters until with one breath all the peeps lose the battle with depression.  :redrum
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: OminousShadow on August 23, 2009, 01:21:01 AM
.... Ok Mab is starting to scare me with her seriousness. I want fun-loving, never serious Fae back.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: rhyfe2002 on August 23, 2009, 01:25:10 AM
It's almost like the seriousness of the Abel's Story arc is bleeding into the main comic (and/or vice versa).

Also, I thought Mab looked almost Asian-like with the wet hair and all in the first panel.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on August 23, 2009, 01:26:26 AM
Ok, I'm calm now. And you guys are right. Even if someone does die, Amber would find some way to bring them back.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: OminousShadow on August 23, 2009, 01:31:18 AM
You must find the 7 Fae Mystics. They are the oldest and most powerful Fae as they have not undergone the reincarnation cycle since the Fae came into being. Complete each of their challenges for a relic of great power which can undo even death itself....

*Hides in fear*
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on August 23, 2009, 01:37:43 AM
Quote from: JackTheCubiWolf on August 23, 2009, 01:26:26 AM
Ok, I'm calm now. And you guys are right. Even if someone does die, Amber would find some way to bring them back.

Oh, I'm not so certain. Take Merlitz for example. Mab's felt attracted to him in the past (still does? Maybe?), so you can make a very strong case for him being one of the five friends. Add in that he's been barely seen since the "Raid on SAIA" part, and that he's based on another person and not a purely Amber creation, leading to an extra bit of tension for the artist to write him, and you have a very good candidate for someone to be pushed off the bridge.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Maril on August 23, 2009, 01:43:09 AM
Quote from: JackTheCubiWolf on August 23, 2009, 01:26:26 AM
Ok, I'm calm now. And you guys are right. Even if someone does die, Amber would find some way to bring them back.

Not necessarily... (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_923.php) 

I am quite intrigued...  I'm not sure who the 5th friend is.  I know Dan, Wildy, Alexsi and Jyrras... Not sure Merlitz would be the 5th, but he could be...  Or maybe it's Lorenda, or even Fa'Lina (though that seems less likely...) Also curious who the one's who'll die are.  And whether or not this is tied with Destania and Biggs' plan...
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Scarydragon on August 23, 2009, 01:45:09 AM
I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but just because Amber, as the artist, has the power to bring back anyone see wants to doesn't mean she will. I have a feeling that whoever is slated for death will either be permanent, or they might turn undead. Or maybe even an unknown force will save them before death, who knows.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: SuaveIV on August 23, 2009, 01:46:20 AM
...i almost hate explaining myself, but I feel the need is necessary...

Click & Learn (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CerebusSyndrome)
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: ooklah on August 23, 2009, 01:50:31 AM
That was about as subtle as steamroller, that's for sure.

But what are the five boons... I wonder... Who still has theirs? and what did the others do to loose them?
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Jairus on August 23, 2009, 02:15:46 AM
Wow... that was... um, subtle.

*sits and thinks for a bit*

The ramifications of this are quite impressive, Amber. In three panels, you've basically completely shifted the mood of the comic, creating an atmosphere of tension and inevitability that is going to plague us until the final strip. I am very impressed. This is quite a different story than the joke a day comic you were drawing ten years ago.

So, obviously, big questions. Who are the five? Who are the two? What are the boons? Is Jyrras the one who can potentially destroy the world, or is it Wildy? How much in comic time until the shit really starts going down? Too many questions ragrephlable!
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Teroniss on August 23, 2009, 02:25:28 AM
Quote from: Jairus on August 23, 2009, 02:15:46 AM
Wow... that was... um, subtle.

*sits and thinks for a bit*

The ramifications of this are quite impressive, Amber. In three panels, you've basically completely shifted the mood of the comic, creating an atmosphere of tension and inevitability that is going to plague us until the final strip. I am very impressed. This is quite a different story than the joke a day comic you were drawing ten years ago.

So, obviously, big questions. Who are the five? Who are the two? What are the boons? Is Jyrras the one who can potentially destroy the world, or is it Wildy? How much in comic time until the shit really starts going down? Too many questions ragrephlable!

Something tells me the pan to Dan as Mab spoke about one possibly destroying the world was part of the steamroller foreshadowing on Amber's part. Could just be me though. I agree with what's been said though. Seeing as the 5 Mab's known longest as LL are Alexi, Dan, Wildy, Jyjy, and Merlitz.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Titanium Dragon on August 23, 2009, 02:31:04 AM
Yeah, I was going to make some sort of comment about Cerebus.

Not that it is a bad thing, as the comic is quite enjoyable and I trust her skills as a writer and artist.

Five men enter... three men leave! >>;
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: LoneHowler on August 23, 2009, 02:34:20 AM
hmm now that I have ad time to think this over I have come to the conclusion of who I believe the one of the two who will die is most likely to be Alexsi, my reasons it's hard to write in a character who's original owner has passed away. The second is one who is also owned by someone else and probably doesn't want their character used anymore. I doubt it's Dan he's to integral to the plot unless this storyline is a comic ender.
Although Amber has proven many times in the past to go off on tangents none of us suspect
Once again Love how  Mab looks
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Cvstos on August 23, 2009, 02:35:35 AM
Huh. Wonder if DMFA itself will end after all these events. That would be a shame. This and QC are my fav comics. (Sinfest a close third.)

So when are we going to start taking bets on who's going to be pushing up daisies :D

OK, OK, that was a bit too dark.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: FSharp on August 23, 2009, 02:37:27 AM
Alternate theory: the Fae exist in non-linear time. Mab knows two of her friends are going to die because she's been to a point in the future where they've passed on from old age.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on August 23, 2009, 02:42:06 AM
Quote from: FSharp on August 23, 2009, 02:37:27 AM
Alternate theory: the Fae exist in non-linear time. Mab knows two of her friends are going to die because she's been to a point in the future where they've passed on from old age.

If that's the case, wouldn't they *all* be dead? The Fae seem to be the only species that is truly immortal.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Cvstos on August 23, 2009, 02:45:07 AM
Quote from: FSharp on August 23, 2009, 02:37:27 AM
Alternate theory: the Fae exist in non-linear time. Mab knows two of her friends are going to die because she's been to a point in the future where they've passed on from old age.

More likely, she sees many possible futures, and in all of them at least two of them die, but which may or may not be constant.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Baal Hadad on August 23, 2009, 02:45:46 AM
Quote from: rhyfe2002 on August 23, 2009, 01:25:10 AM
It's almost like the seriousness of the Abel's Story arc is bleeding into the main comic (and/or vice versa).

The cranes...remember the cranes....
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: ChaosMageX on August 23, 2009, 02:53:38 AM
All I can say is...It's about bloody time, Amber.  Soon we will finally be able to check this one off the list.  And by list, I mean the list of things that make a comic great from that earlier non-canon arc.

Here are the parts of the list that have been fulfilled so far since the list's introduction:
( 1 ) Fanservice (the Wallpaper Wars)
( 4 ) Drive-by Baby (Rose)
( 6 ) Homosexual Character "Coming Out of the Closet" (Jyrrus)
( 8 ) Introduction of New Characters (Abel, Fa'lina, Fi, etc)
( 9 ) Overly Cute Mascot Character (Fi)
(10) Shonen Ai (Jyrrus + Janus)

Here are the parts of the list that haven't been fulfilled yet:
( 2 ) Crude Generalization of an Often Misunderstood Group of People to Incite Fan Rage (may have been done with vampires, but I'm not sure)
( 3 ) Killing Off a Character
( 5 ) Sprite Comic
( 7 ) Gaming Comic

And soon Amber plans to check off #3 to further boost her comic's popularity, or maybe not.  I'm thinking that the three that will survive will be Dan, Wildy, and Jyrrus, but I'm probably extremely wrong. :<
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: FSharp on August 23, 2009, 02:55:53 AM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on August 23, 2009, 02:42:06 AMIf that's the case, wouldn't they *all* be dead? The Fae seem to be the only species that is truly immortal.

Hard call. The only things I can reference with any certainty are Mab and Fa'Lina's odd temporal relationship (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_581.php) and that the Fae are somehow non-linear (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_833.php) creatures.

So all I can suggest is that Mab might know two of her friends will die because she's been to a time where it's already happened.

Either way, this is an ambitiously sharp turn for the comic to take. Will be interesting to see how Amber handles it.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Zedd on August 23, 2009, 03:02:37 AM
Fate is never set, no matter how much people may proclaim the future.

But in a way, choice binds us all.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Jairus on August 23, 2009, 03:07:18 AM
Quote from: Zedd on August 23, 2009, 03:02:37 AM
Fate is never set, no matter how much people may proclaim the future.

But in a way, choice binds us all.
Hey, you stole that last bit from me! Even though there isn't enough in that phrase to properly express the idea behind it...

I'm wondering if Mab might choose to "die" in order to save those other three. Probably not, that would be trite.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: ChaosMageX on August 23, 2009, 03:07:59 AM
Quote from: Zedd on August 23, 2009, 03:02:37 AM
Fate is never set, no matter how much people may proclaim the future.

But in a way, choice binds us all.

The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Ganurath on August 23, 2009, 03:35:19 AM
Didn't Amber explicitely state that she has the characters change to fit the world, not the world to fit the characters? She was shooting down the Tri-Wing Dan speculation at the time, but I'll also take it as ammo to shoot down any speculation regarding diamond dust and Phoenix Downs.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Lego3400 on August 23, 2009, 03:35:49 AM
She's already killed off charcters. 2. 1 in main story one in ablels story.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Buhamet on August 23, 2009, 03:43:45 AM
When it comes down to the idea of friends dying who have a boon, for some reason my mind has an odd idea as to a possibility:
Fa'Lina

Sounds odd, I know but Fa'Lina herself called herself a friend of Mab's during the Raid on SAIA arc (strip #581), and she has been able to create a rather amazing name for heself. The acadamy she's created could sorta be called a "Boon" as Cubi who attend there are more powerful than those who don't, so that's one way of helping out Dan.
Also, I think it's a bit much to be saying Dan might be a character to Die, because well............... the comic's called Dan and Mab's furrry adventures........ Kill off Dan, and you'd probably lose half your readers
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Garsemor on August 23, 2009, 03:45:48 AM
Hey here's something to chew on, how do we know we meet all 5 of Mab's friends. Think about it, perhaps the 2 that will die are unknown to us. I am propably horribly wrong but it's an possibility.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: bdplague on August 23, 2009, 03:49:55 AM
AAAAAAH.
I DONT WANT ANYONE TO DIEEEEE.


That being said of course, I most protest that as a very linear creature, I have extreme difficulty wrapping my head around the idea of a non-linear creature. O___o I doubt Mab knows because she was already knows - she may have just gone to the Pheonix's!
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: SuaveIV on August 23, 2009, 03:56:46 AM
Quote from: Titanium Dragon on August 23, 2009, 02:31:04 AM
Yeah, I was going to make some sort of comment about Cerebus.

Not that it is a bad thing, as the comic is quite enjoyable and I trust her skills as a writer and artist.

Five men enter... three men leave! >>;

...do you know how happy you've made me?  :boogie

but yeah, I quite positive that Amber can pull off the turn into serious-land...

...though I doubt we'll ever fully go there. It's just not in her mental makeup.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Kafzeil on August 23, 2009, 03:57:18 AM
Hmm...reminds of an idea I had for a DMFA Fanfic, though I never got around to writing. My ideas involved a nihilistic Tri-WIng 'CUbi intent on bring forth a Death God after his clan was wiped out, a Mengele-esque Angel, insanity, and country filled of pissed off Beings finally using technology to become just as big bastards as Creatures.

I wanted to do a Earn Your Happy ENding  style ending, but just couldn't picture how to do so. I like to think it's darkest right before daybreak.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Technoire on August 23, 2009, 04:39:14 AM
I still don't even have the slightest idea what "boon" refers to in this instance. And I am way to exhausted tonight to even contribute more to this conversation than my curiosity...

Maybe tomorrow.
G'night...
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Artanis on August 23, 2009, 05:31:33 AM
"A blessing or benefit; that which is asked or granted as a benefit or favor; a gift; a benefaction; a grant; a present; a prayer or petition. A wish usually granted by a god to any person." (Thanks, Google define.)

In this context, given Mab's existence as a demi-god or similar, we're probably talking less about material or social goods and more about innate capabilities.

For example, Mab has befriended Jyrras. She provided him with a bit of magic to experiment on, stable until touched. It explodes in his face. Subsequently, Jyrras becomes the unwitting parent of two new forms of life. Potential boon: spark of life. This is all assuming we've seen foreshadowing (ret-con or otherwise) regarding these boons.

Jyrras could also have received his intelligence/inventiveness/genius from Mab's boon, but this could cheapen all his accomplishments; "Of all those things I did, what was from me, and what was from this power you gave me?" There is this possibility, however, we still need to figure out what could possibly make Dan hate Mab, and learning that all his accomplishments were due to some intervention on Mab's part could certainly do that. And, of course, many of her friends are also friends, so deaths due to her plan would also apply.

So, listing ("Friend - comma-separated list of potential boons"):
1. Dan - ?
2. Jyrras - spark of life, intelligence
3. ? - ?
4. ? - ?
5. ? - ?

I'll have to do an archive binge to get more possibilities, but it's late and I need to sleep as well.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: MT Hazard on August 23, 2009, 05:53:21 AM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on August 23, 2009, 03:07:59 AM
Quote from: Zedd on August 23, 2009, 03:02:37 AM
Fate is never set, no matter how much people may proclaim the future.

But in a way, choice binds us all.

The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.

You cannot stop Judgement day, you can only postpone it, Judgement day is inevitable (and people wonder why so many dislike that film)
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 23, 2009, 06:47:47 AM
Quote from: Buhamet on August 23, 2009, 03:43:45 AM
When it comes down to the idea of friends dying who have a boon, for some reason my mind has an odd idea as to a possibility:  Fa'Lina

I think you might be onto something there.  The creation of SAIA (which may well be magically cut off from the rest of the world a'la Fae Kingdom) would be the boon.  It certainly changed the world for the 'Cubi.

As for the others, Mab 'grew up' with a number of characters including Dan.  Now, it's possible that he's marked although I'd hope not.  IMHO that would be a bit too bitter an ending.  However, I think the bulk of her friends are Lost Lake citizens.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Moekii on August 23, 2009, 07:00:08 AM
I like this direction, alot. It's not something I'm used to from this comic :]

I also enjoy the new update schedule. Gives me more to look forward to on the weekends!
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: RobbieThe1st on August 23, 2009, 07:51:57 AM
My take on all this is a bit different.
Mab says "when I arrived here... I made five friends." To me, this sounds like while Mab is many many years old, she only recently came to Furrae, about the time when Dan and co. were growing up.
"And I have given each of them a boon." - Thus far, you all seem to be looking at it as if it were a specific item/gift for each person. What if its not - what if it was simply a wish or magical aid, something none of them knew about, and none of them could willingly use. Something like a "get out of (1) death free" card perhaps? At least for Dan it could have been. Perhaps it even took the form of something less tangible; preventing a person from being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or making sure they were in the right place at the right time.

"only one friend's boon remains" - To me, it sounds like the above wish/nudge for four of the people has been used, only one is left - perhaps it will be needed for some special task?

"each of them has the potential to change their world" - I am guessing that, because of these boons, each of the five are in a position to greatly influence the world around them.

"one may even destroy it" - I am guessing that, due to the position each of them is in, they all hold great power. One of them has enough power to destroy the world if he/she does the wrong thing. I think this person is either Dan(because of his 'Cubi powers and Cyra ancestry) or Jyrras(because of his technological power).

"..It is hard enough knowing two of my friends will die." - I agree with several of the previous posters; It is most likely a situation where Mab's ability to see into the future has shown multiple paths; everything from two out of the five dying to everyone dieing in a planetary disaster. It may very well be that depending on the character's actions themselves, the two who die may change. Expanding on this, it may be that even Amber hasn't written out who will die exactly; but will be able to choose who at the last minute. Perhaps based on all of our comments(reversed or not)... Now, there is a scary thought.


-Robbie
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 23, 2009, 08:00:15 AM
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on August 23, 2009, 07:51:57 AM
My take on all this is a bit different.
Mab says "when I arrived here... I made five friends." To me, this sounds like while Mab is many many years old, she only recently came to Furrae, about the time when Dan and co. were growing up.

I was about to take this idea from the other end, that if Fa'Lina is one of the friends (it's certainly possible) and that she made her five friends when she first arrived, her friends could be none of the contemporary Lost Lake characters.  They could actually be Fa'Lina, Destania, Pyroduck and one or two others who are (or may be) thousands of years old, and that while she likes Dan, her 'friend' is actually his mother.

However I don't think this is necessarily the case.  Firstly, it obviates Jyrras.  Secondly and more relevant to your suggestion, Fae may not have to follow time linearly.  It is entirely possible that when she first arrived (subjectively) she was able to make friends in multiple time zones concurrently.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Naldru on August 23, 2009, 08:19:50 AM
If Mab knew Dan when he was young, it also means that she knew Destania.  Could Destania be one of the friends?  (Edit: I take too long thinking about my posts.  I see Tapewolf posted the same idea while I was writing this.)  Here are my thoughts.  

As mentioned in the few previous strips, Jyrras is one of the five.  The question is whether he knew he was making a wish when he used the words "It would mean the world to me".  The boon is obviously the removal of the bangles.  

Destania, with the boon being the ability to keep her family safe by destroying her family's enemies.  That could be how she plans to deal with the dragons.

As mentioned before, Fa'lina, with the boon being the safety of SAIA against outside forces.  After all, the ability to keep dragons out would seem to be beyond the power of any cubi, considering the the ability of the dragons to destroy entire clans of cubi.

Dan is of course an obvious choice.  Assuming that he didn't waste his wish on a whim, such as  "I wish I had another ale", I'm not sure what his boon would have been.  He may be the one with a boon left.

And now we come to number five on the board.  It's been a while since anybody brought up the "Aniz is Dan's father" idea, and I think that its about due.  Suppose that Aniz was number five, and he was disgusted with his past that he wished to be a being.

On this basis, three of the friends will live for thousands of years, while the other two will die in a hundred years or so.

Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: ChaosMageX on August 23, 2009, 08:30:54 AM
Quote from: MT Hazard on August 23, 2009, 05:53:21 AM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on August 23, 2009, 03:07:59 AM
Quote from: Zedd on August 23, 2009, 03:02:37 AM
Fate is never set, no matter how much people may proclaim the future.

But in a way, choice binds us all.

The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.

You cannot stop Judgement day, you can only postpone it, Judgement day is inevitable (and people wonder why so many dislike that film)

Yes, and when April 21, 2011 (the date given in the TV series) comes and goes, James Cameron (or whoever decides the next date) will start throwing dates at calendars spanning the next 7 years until they find another date that's catchy.

If they're smart, they'll pick a date in 2012, since that seems to be the most popular apocalypse year since 2000.  Why is it always the Chinese Year of the Dragon that's getting the bad rap?!

Has anyone noticed that Sky-Net tends to be a morning person, always becoming self-aware at early AM hours?  However, that may also be the product of darts and a print-out clock face.

Also, how do we know that Deeb's sister isn't the Furrae world's version of Sky-Net?

Maybe that's the world destruction that Mab is referring to, and if this computer becomes angry and confused and Jyrrus can't reassure it, then Judgement Day will occur in their world.

I wonder how close in design the bodies of Joshua and Dorcan are to T800 series models. :mwaha
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Garsemor on August 23, 2009, 09:04:10 AM
Well, since everyone is trying to figure out who are Mab's friends and who will die, what the boon might be etc... I will insted say what the possible ways of bringing them back would be.
1. Turn them undead (the curdest option if all else fails)
2. Capture there soul's inside artifacts and wait for android bodies to be invented (sorry about the quote Tape)
3. Persuade Kria to revive them the same way as DP (in case of adaptations being needed I'm fairly sure DP could be persuaded as well)

Sorry for being a little of topic but there are still many possibilities as to how to save them that haven't been mentioned.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Ted Schiller on August 23, 2009, 11:31:10 AM
Dan will die if he doesn't start taking souls.

Howevah, if Mab or Albanion tricks Dan into taking enough souls to get to the right power level, he could be .. ah .. annoyed.

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tipod on August 23, 2009, 11:36:08 AM
If you argue about fate, I think you need to realize this all takes place in kooky mixed-up fantasy world. People there probably get destined to all kinds of things from dying on their 21st birthdays to becoming shoemakers for the rest of their lives :B
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 23, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: Ted Schiller on August 23, 2009, 11:31:10 AM
Dan will die if he doesn't start taking souls.

At the moment, Dan would probably prefer death.  That attitude may change, of course.
Unless I'm greatly mistaken he'll have a pretty decent lifespan even if he doesn't - Cyra's power is liable to boost him too (unless she's one of the ones to be written off) and at the end of the day, souls aren't the only way to extend your life... just the easiest.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Lucheek on August 23, 2009, 11:41:57 AM
....
HUUUUUUWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: TheDXM on August 23, 2009, 11:46:12 AM
I don't think a little seriousness, or more importantly death, is going to make DMFA lose it's simple fun-loving charm. Plenty of 'serious' emotionally charged plot twists have occured in DMFA already, even if they didn't include death and Amber handled them just fine. The only difference is that death is a little more PG-13.

With that said, DMFA has a very large cast, and over the years some of characters have fallen out of the spotlight as new ones approached. If some of the characters need to be cropped out, it might be a bit more fitting to give them a chance of ending things in a nice hot pyre of fury than a happily-ever-after detail.

In any case I'm looking forward to the future of the comic. I love the nostalgia of this strip, and it shows how varied and special the details Amber has learned how to maintain in an atmosphere.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: rabid_fox on August 23, 2009, 11:59:19 AM

I hope it's Dan and Mab, then the comic can be rebranded as The Pepsi Max Furry Adventures X2000.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Shadowcatcher on August 23, 2009, 12:07:23 PM
Quote from: Teroniss on August 23, 2009, 02:25:28 AM
Something tells me the pan to Dan as Mab spoke about one possibly destroying the world was part of the steamroller foreshadowing on Amber's part. Could just be me though. I agree with what's been said though. Seeing as the 5 Mab's known longest as LL are Alexi, Dan, Wildy, Jyjy, and Merlitz.

Or maybe it is Dan who hasn't used his boon yet.  You know how he feels about magic.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Wanderer on August 23, 2009, 12:13:04 PM
 :erk EPILEPTIC TREEEEEEEEESSS!! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EpilepticTrees)

Anyway. What happened to the fun-filled lighthearted comic that I remember through my nostalgia-tinted goggles? It's gone all serious and stuff.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 23, 2009, 12:14:49 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on August 23, 2009, 12:13:04 PM
Anyway. What happened to the fun-filled lighthearted comic that I remember through my nostalgia-tinted goggles? It's gone all serious and stuff.

It does that.  Then it goes lighthearted again for a bit.  Then the cycle repeats.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Teroniss on August 23, 2009, 12:38:04 PM
In my opinion, I would have to say that the most likely ones to die are going to be Jyrras; The last few comics, Amber has pretty much implied that he is going to die eventually, all the Fae stuff Mab and Albanion have been doing have been working to postpone that fact until he can finish whatever it is he is working on. He's also likely the last one with the 'boon' in form of DB. The other possibility is Alexsi, since one, she's at the forefront of the Dragon/Cubi issue, and is aware of it and therefore in a situation that might cause her to be either a sacrifice to save Dan at one point, or a sacrifice to force Dan into action via angry vengeance stuffs. Also, like someone mentioned earlier, the owner of Alexsi did in fact pass away, and Amber may not have the inspiration to write for the character anymore.

Edit: The other possibility is that the boon belongs to Alexsi in form of her Magic Interdimensional Mallet. She doesn't strike me as an adventurer, nor someone who would know alot about magic, so it seems the magic mallet summoning would be something that would be a boon from someone.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Sofox on August 23, 2009, 12:53:44 PM
Eh, I have a lot of trust in Amber's writing ability. This is not the first time a small thing has caused a lot of readers to express misgivings about where the comic is going, the potential Zig Zag cameo had several people practically complaining about Amber not respecting the strips rating, to the point of irritating Amber herself, whereas Amber has more then enough skill to put in a cameo that suits the tone of the strip. Same thing with this.
DMFA has the odd tone shift at times, it makes things more interesting, shakes things up a bit, but things continue on in their DMFA fashion. It's usually easier to take these things in when you're reading through the archives. When you read the comic as it updates, there's a lot more time to think so it's easier to interpret a minor short term change as an entire change of direction
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: terrycloth on August 23, 2009, 01:26:19 PM
It was stated what a boon was in an earlier comic -- they get to ask for the world, or something of equivalent value. Jyrass *just* used his up to get rid of the bangles (wasted, basically). The others probably also used theirs up for silly things without even knowing it.

As  far as whos' going to die, well, Dan *has* to be one of them. A black shadow-creature gnawing on your head is a very bad omen! :mowdizzy

And yeah, the comic's probably going to end once all this is resolved, 'cause Amber wants to move on to doing that other comic about the world Jyrass etc. were briefly teleported into. Or something like that.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Shirou14 on August 23, 2009, 01:29:33 PM
oh... wow... there is so much discussion on this already (thats right, three pages, uh huh) But anyway, someone pointed out somewhere halfway through page two that the two people who are going to die might be people we don't know. Usually I would point out that that is unlikely because there would be no character for the fans to get emotional with, but as I type this I realize.... It's DMFA, a lot of stuff happens like that and everyone walks it off. (With that being said, if it is some random person we don't know about dying, I could see friends/family coming in to attack them all) ....... in which case if the two were dragons, that would explain why Destina wants to destroy them to protect her family.... oh wow the possibilities. Really think about it, if the two friends of hers were dragons, their family/friends would think she would have been able to protect them and attack because she didn't. However that's doubtful, if they were her friends, Mab would have been spending more time with them in the comic so I digress.
I'm not going to offer my speculations on who Mab's five friends are, I just Hope Abel and Jyrras don't die X3 Alexi probably will die unfortunately (that girl has been getting less and less screen time) and I think Fa'Lina would seem like one of the people who would die, probably to protect the others. I'm not sure why I think Fa'lina, probably a hunch.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: M on August 23, 2009, 01:46:00 PM
Wow, stuff's going to go down, whether we like it or not! (I like it :U)

Jyrras, to me, seems to be a likely candidate for the one to have the potential to destroy. All of the five friends have the ability to change it, but one can not only change, but devastate as well. Given the focus on him being "the one" in turning the world on it's head and his abilities with weaponry, he might just blow up Furrae (possibly more?). This also could make him one of the friends that dies, but I'm not so sure, what with the Fae's focus on protecting him.

It also seems pretty likely Jyrras just used up his boon on the bangles (whoops!). I'm not positive who the other friends are, but likely candidates are Dan, Alexsi, Merlitz, and Wildy. I do like the idea of Fa'Lina of being one, and that opens up the possibility of other much older characters to be the friends. I also don't think that her comment "when I arrived here" limits Mab to just one time period.

Man, this is all just so exciting! I can't wait to see what happens.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Anri on August 23, 2009, 03:17:21 PM
What if there's some sort of misinterpretation! What if we look at this all from a fashion point of view. They become trendsetters and some of them DYE!
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Anri on August 23, 2009, 03:21:12 PM
And to cover it before someone else mentions it.. the power to destroy the world? Have you SEEN polyester leisure suits? D:
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: M on August 23, 2009, 03:35:47 PM
Quote from: Tikki on August 23, 2009, 03:21:12 PM
And to cover it before someone else mentions it.. the power to destroy the world? Have you SEEN polyester leisure suits? D:

Zoot suits are far worse than leisure suits. UGH.  :[
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Caswin on August 23, 2009, 03:41:20 PM
Well, that was wholly unexpected.

If anyone needs me, I'll be over here rethinking my entire approach to the comic.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Ghostwish on August 23, 2009, 05:55:28 PM
Quote from: Teroniss on August 23, 2009, 12:38:04 PM
Edit: The other possibility is that the boon belongs to Alexsi in form of her Magic Interdimensional Mallet. She doesn't strike me as an adventurer, nor someone who would know alot about magic, so it seems the magic mallet summoning would be something that would be a boon from someone.

Nope, read up on her cast page.
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: Alondro on August 23, 2009, 06:25:07 PM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on August 23, 2009, 08:30:54 AM

If they're smart, they'll pick a date in 2012, since that seems to be the most popular apocalypse year since 2000.  Why is it always the Chinese Year of the Dragon that's getting the bad rap?!



I was born in the year of the Dragon...    :mwaha

If having Future All-Powerful Evil Emperor Charles born is not enough to give that year of the cycle a badrap for eternity, I don't know what is!   
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: John Roh on August 23, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
*blink* main characters dying eh? thats not important not when theres a TYPO in the first panel "thing are coming" shouldnt that be "things are coming"

I feel cruel and petty now for pointing it out T_T
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Lena on August 23, 2009, 08:37:02 PM
:blinks: Well, that came out of left field. I, for one, am just going along for the ride on this one. On the other hand, I guess now we have a new option for Pip's statement that Dan would end up hating Mab at the end of it all - if I had someone who claimed to be my friend who knew that two of my other friends were very likely to die and had incredible amounts of power, so could do something about it, and yet did nothing to save them, I don't know that I'd ever forgive them for that. Even if it was a futile effort, and nothing could be changed, knowing they just let it happen wouldn't endear them to me.
Just my 2 cents, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Anri on August 23, 2009, 08:40:30 PM
Quote from: Marmy on August 23, 2009, 03:35:47 PM
Quote from: Tikki on August 23, 2009, 03:21:12 PM
And to cover it before someone else mentions it.. the power to destroy the world? Have you SEEN polyester leisure suits? D:

Zoot suits are far worse than leisure suits. UGH.  :[

Aha, but you see what I'm saying!
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: LoneHowler on August 23, 2009, 08:58:33 PM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on August 23, 2009, 02:53:38 AM
All I can say is...It's about bloody time, Amber.  Soon we will finally be able to check this one off the list.  And by list, I mean the list of things that make a comic great from that earlier non-canon arc.

Here are the parts of the list that have been fulfilled so far since the list's introduction:
( 1 ) Fanservice (the Wallpaper Wars)
( 4 ) Drive-by Baby (Rose)
( 6 ) Homosexual Character "Coming Out of the Closet" (Jyrrus)
( 8 ) Introduction of New Characters (Abel, Fa'lina, Fi, etc)
( 9 ) Overly Cute Mascot Character (Fi)
(10) Shonen Ai (Jyrrus + Janus)

Here are the parts of the list that haven't been fulfilled yet:
( 2 ) Crude Generalization of an Often Misunderstood Group of People to Incite Fan Rage (may have been done with vampires, but I'm not sure)
( 3 ) Killing Off a Character
( 5 ) Sprite Comic
( 7 ) Gaming Comic

And soon Amber plans to check off #3 to further boost her comic's popularity, or maybe not.  I'm thinking that the three that will survive will be Dan, Wildy, and Jyrrus, but I'm probably extremely wrong. :<

Sprite comic has been done http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_180.php

and Amber had done a whole story line on comic tropes http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Arch_010.php
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: ishidan on August 23, 2009, 09:50:19 PM
Just because she said "will die", doesn't mean "immediately".  It just means "before me".  
Many of her friends are races with a lifespan definitively shorter than a fae's...but some are not.  (for instance, Dan and Abel are Cubi, Lorenda is half Demon, and Pyroduck is a Dragon-if everybody lived out their natural lifespans, they might outlive Mab.  
Jyrras, however, will probably not unless he invents mind transferrence before then.  Rose said it herself, Jyrras can expect to die of old age after a mere century or so.  He's one.  Wildy is another, and so is Alexi.

Barring some great catastrophe, therefore, Mab can be assured that at least two of her friends will die before she does.  
A catastrophe, however, could kill them all, regardless of their natural lifespans.
This would be tragic.

/answering the question "Am I going to die?"  with "Eventually" is a favorite, if underappreciated, jest in my business
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Rafe on August 23, 2009, 10:59:13 PM
Everyone knows that Mab dies and goes to her very own chibi-heaven surrounded by lots of friends and everlasting fun adventures!!!

(http://www.pholph.com/artwork/37/374f3e20237c58845be91c27080d84db/Jack20031231.jpg) 
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on August 23, 2009, 11:16:01 PM
I don't know how that's possible if her very soul is immediately recycled... how can we be sure that wasn't the soul of a random mow or all the mows?
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: OminousShadow on August 23, 2009, 11:17:20 PM
I say Dan can't die in this comic. First rule of Making Comics: TITLE CHARACTERS DO NOT DIE! AND THERE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS TO BRING THEM BACK IF THEY DO! Enough said.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Rafe on August 23, 2009, 11:22:12 PM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on August 23, 2009, 11:16:01 PM
I don't know how that's possible if her very soul is immediately recycled... how can we be sure that wasn't the soul of a random mow or all the mows?

Dead Sue Deer and Fnar say it's Mab, so that's good enough for me.
(http://www.pholph.com/artwork/37/374f3e20237c58845be91c27080d84db/Jack20040102.jpg)
Oh, uh, I forgot - I'm dead too.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: inuhanyo on August 23, 2009, 11:50:23 PM
As to Dan needing to consume souls, the Cubi lifespan without any extending technoques is three thousand years.   It'll be a long time before that becomes an issue with either Dan or Abel.  Realizing that he might very well outlive all of his Being friends and relatives was one of the things that disturbed Dan about becoming an Incubus.

We know that Fae are nonlinear in space (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_832.php), we've seen Rose be in three places simultaneously without even breaking a sweat, it's entirely possible that they are also nonlinear in time as well.   Which make "When I first arrived here...I made five friends" hard to make inferences from.  From Mabs perspective, does that period span week, years, or decades?  Or even centuries?
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 24, 2009, 03:42:21 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on August 23, 2009, 11:50:23 PM
As to Dan needing to consume souls, the Cubi lifespan without any extending technoques is three thousand years.   It'll be a long time before that becomes an issue with either Dan or Abel.  Realizing that he might very well outlive all of his Being friends and relatives was one of the things that disturbed Dan about becoming an Incubus.
Well, we don't know for an absolute fact that 3000 years is what you get without souls, it might just be the average lifespan.  If someone like Dee gets careless and gets stomped, you're going to get some rather funny numbers.

Having said that said, I'd like to think it was their unaided lifespan, and unless Mab was taking soul-stealing into account, she seemed to think Dan could live roughly that long (308).

QuoteWhich make "When I first arrived here...I made five friends" hard to make inferences from.  From Mabs perspective, does that period span week, years, or decades?  Or even centuries?
I think it spans millennia.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Titanium Dragon on August 24, 2009, 04:33:57 AM
It seems very unlikely to me that her friends are anyone random; they're most likely main characters. Killing off someone no one cares about simply isn't as interesting. Though if anyone suddenly comes back, that's a sure sign they'll die - nothing says "I'm going to die" than suddenly rising to prominence from former obscurity, or a character who has been offscreen for a long time returning, right after such a pronouncement has been made.

So, basically, if Merlitz comes back from his adventure, its practically a death sentence. :P

Dan, Jyrras, Wildy, Alexsi, and Merlitz seem like they'd be the likeliest five to be the friends to whom she is referring. If Merlitz dies, I'd guess that the other would be Alexsi or Wildy, for the reasons others have speculated.

But really, this is all pretty shaky speculation (other than the Merlitz thing ;) TVTropes doesn't lie!).

And really, I'm not sure why people think it will suddenly become super dark anyway. And in any event, Amber does a great job with the comic, so really, who doesn't trust her to do a good job?
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 24, 2009, 05:03:27 AM
Quote from: Titanium Dragon on August 24, 2009, 04:33:57 AM
And really, I'm not sure why people think it will suddenly become super dark anyway. And in any event, Amber does a great job with the comic, so really, who doesn't trust her to do a good job?

This is true.  It is always possible that the deaths will be spun in a positive light, e.g. death as the start of a great adventure.  This would be a problem for Mab as she wouldn't be able to go with them.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Scarydragon on August 24, 2009, 06:43:29 AM
It feels a little morbid discussing which character is most likely to die. Almost like talking about a friend with cancer or something. I guess Amber's doing a good job of storytelling if I feel like a bastard for thinking about it.

I also feel that over thinking this now will somehow put a damper on the comic itself until the dreaded events unfold sometime down the line. It's like, I'd rather be shocked and dismayed when it happens, instead of counting down the days.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: ChaosMageX on August 24, 2009, 09:11:43 AM
Scarydragon is correct, it does feel like we're talking as if one or more of characters have malignant cancer.

So let's switch the topic to happier things, such as Abel's 400th birthday, which is when both Aniz (possibly Edward Ti'Fiona if that one theory is correct) and Hizell are likely to enter the comic.

Also, I'm curious to know which other of the characters in the comic weren't created by Amber, as those would be likely candidates to die.

Wait, wouldn't killing off someone else's character while they're still alive to read the comic be sort of insulting to them?
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 24, 2009, 09:16:31 AM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on August 24, 2009, 09:11:43 AM
Wait, wouldn't killing off someone else's character while they're still alive to read the comic be sort of insulting to them?

Amber killed the cameos in Abel's Story.  She agreed with them about it beforehand, and if she did the same here there's no reason why not...
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 24, 2009, 09:32:24 AM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on August 24, 2009, 09:11:43 AM
So let's switch the topic to happier things, such as Abel's 400th birthday, which is when both Aniz (possibly Edward Ti'Fiona if that one theory is correct) and Hizell are likely to enter the comic.

Here's a thought. How would Aniz fare against Dan? Give Dan maybe 15 years to get up to speed on his Cubi heritage and all...
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: ChaosMageX on August 24, 2009, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 24, 2009, 09:32:24 AM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on August 24, 2009, 09:11:43 AM
So let's switch the topic to happier things, such as Abel's 400th birthday, which is when both Aniz (possibly Edward Ti'Fiona if that one theory is correct) and Hizell are likely to enter the comic.

Here's a thought. How would Aniz fare against Dan? Give Dan maybe 15 years to get up to speed on his Cubi heritage and all...

I don't think Dan has that kind of time.  Aniz was banned from SAIA until Abel's 400th birthday.  It would make quite the interesting story line for his return to occur during that month out of the year Dan is obligated to attend SAIA, don't you think?

Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2009, 09:16:31 AM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on August 24, 2009, 09:11:43 AM
Wait, wouldn't killing off someone else's character while they're still alive to read the comic be sort of insulting to them?

Amber killed the cameos in Abel's Story.  She agreed with them about it beforehand, and if she did the same here there's no reason why not...

Heenya was a cameo?
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 24, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on August 24, 2009, 09:53:47 AM
Heenya was a cameo?

These two:
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_56.php
Dorian is the llama and belongs to Zina.  Kammi is the hammer-girl and she's a cameo from another comic entirely, though I forget the name of it.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: ChaosMageX on August 24, 2009, 10:14:58 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on August 24, 2009, 09:53:47 AM
Heenya was a cameo?

These two:
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_56.php
Dorian is the llama and belongs to Zina.  Kammi is the hammer-girl and she's a cameo from another comic entirely, though I forget the name of it.

Ohhhh.  While we're on that topic, is Glory really one of Wildy's ancestors?  I missed the speculation that occurred in whatever forum thread corresponded to that strip.  A simple link to the archive with it would be nice.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 24, 2009, 10:20:14 AM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on August 24, 2009, 10:14:58 AM
Ohhhh.  While we're on that topic, is Glory really one of Wildy's ancestors?
Beats me.  Discussion for that page is here, according to the wiki:
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1595
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 24, 2009, 10:38:18 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
These two:
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_56.php
Dorian is the llama and belongs to Zina.  Kammi is the hammer-girl and she's a cameo from another comic entirely, though I forget the name of it.

Kammi is owned by H. Carlian, also known as Icarus (on here, and some other places) according to the Wiku-Wiki (http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Cameo_Appearances#Abel.27s_Story). Google from there leads to Inhuman (http://hekshano.com/). Kammi may or may not be recognisable from there, since Icarus also has an art site on Sheezy Art (http://icarus.sheezyart.com/) and their own server (http://demon-sushi.com/). I don't immediately recognise Kammi, but that's not saying much - Icarus has a very different art style to Amber, and I'm pretty sure I haven't seen any large hammers in Inhuman...
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: MT Hazard on August 24, 2009, 11:39:57 AM
Assuming it wasn't been mentioned already..

In the last panel Dan says he shrunk fi, how does a feline cubi with a short attention span (compounded problem there) learn enough to do that in what, a day?
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 24, 2009, 11:43:34 AM
Quote from: MT Hazard on August 24, 2009, 11:39:57 AM
In the last panel Dan says he shrunk fi, how does a feline cubi with a short attention span (compounded problem there) learn enough to do that in what, a day?

I don't know, but if the alternative is to have the thing eat all your friends and deposit them in random locations throughout the planet / cosmos, I think you'd probably have some incentive to find a way to focus on it  :P
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: ChaosMageX on August 24, 2009, 11:52:52 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2009, 11:43:34 AM
Quote from: MT Hazard on August 24, 2009, 11:39:57 AM
In the last panel Dan says he shrunk fi, how does a feline cubi with a short attention span (compounded problem there) learn enough to do that in what, a day?

I don't know, but if the alternative is to have the thing eat all your friends and deposit them in random locations throughout the planet / cosmos, I think you'd probably have some incentive to find a way to focus on it  :P

We still  don't know where that island is with Wildy on it, or how Fi actually managed to get the drop on her.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Naldru on August 24, 2009, 02:09:00 PM
Quote from: MT Hazard on August 24, 2009, 11:39:57 AM
Assuming it wasn't been mentioned already..

In the last panel Dan says he shrunk fi, how does a feline cubi with a short attention span (compounded problem there) learn enough to do that in what, a day?

Remember how quickly Dan learned to change the shape of his head wings and work it into a form of psychological warfare. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_621.php)

Of course, his techniques for learning cubi techniques such as tentacle manipulation can be unorthodox. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_387.php)

To put it simply, Dan learns very fast if Amber can work it into a gag.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Fibre on August 24, 2009, 03:03:13 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 24, 2009, 10:38:18 AM
Kammi is owned by H. Carlian, also known as Icarus (on here, and some other places) according to the Wiku-Wiki (http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Cameo_Appearances#Abel.27s_Story). Google from there leads to Inhuman (http://hekshano.com/). Kammi may or may not be recognisable from there, since Icarus also has an art site on Sheezy Art (http://icarus.sheezyart.com/) and their own server (http://demon-sushi.com/). I don't immediately recognise Kammi, but that's not saying much - Icarus has a very different art style to Amber, and I'm pretty sure I haven't seen any large hammers in Inhuman...

I thought that Kammi was the flight instructor, but I can't find that part immediately. Anyway, she's visible here and in the surrounding pages: http://inhuman-comic.com/comic190.php
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Shirou14 on August 24, 2009, 03:24:03 PM
You know, I just thought of something. What if the characters aren't going to die? like physically die, maybe they will simply die emotionally, or mentaly. Or perhaps Mab considers mind control a form of mental death. if two of her friends go under mind control, then it's possible they will betray her other friends and get them under mind control as well. and then they might all "die." And their world, doesn't necessarily mean the entire world of furreh (please don't kill me for mispellings) but perhaps it's just lost lake in, or something very very emotional will happen to everyone they care about thus "destroying their world." Just a thought, but It's possible.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: icarus on August 24, 2009, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: Fibre on August 24, 2009, 03:03:13 PM
I thought that Kammi was the flight instructor, but I can't find that part immediately. Anyway, she's visible here and in the surrounding pages: http://inhuman-comic.com/comic190.php

cause you're thinking of the side comic, Jet's Story. XB kammi had a much larger role in that plotline.
http://inhuman-comic.com/jetstory20.php (mildly NSFW, there's a gag-grope-with-clothes-on)

i also don't feel like alexsi will be one of the friends of mab's who dies...because she did die, in reality. alexsi was the owner of a dream in furcadia, and passed away not too many years ago.

it'd seem cruel to kill her in a comic. the comic is in a way a tribute to her memory, and one way in which that memory can remain immortal. it'd just be insensitive, it feels like. but that's my take on it. could be wrong.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Kuari on August 24, 2009, 03:58:13 PM
Hmm...  I predict one of the two will be Merlitz and the one without the boon is Dan.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Jasonrevall on August 24, 2009, 08:57:32 PM
If a war is gonna break out, then alot more than 2 people are gonna die. I think some of the other characters like Biggs, Kria, and Matilda might also get caught in the line of fire during this war, and possibly on opposite sides.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Shadowcatcher on August 24, 2009, 11:59:42 PM
Makes me wonder about Fa'lina and the comment about something happening "two months from now" -- at the time we assumed it was the degradation of her omniscience -- maybe it's a countdown to her own demise.  If you're omniscient (or semi) then you probably know how your life is going to end.  It sort of fits in with the "new/old friend", and someone else did mention that SAIA could have been one of Mab's boons.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on August 25, 2009, 12:52:46 AM
I just hope it's not Wildy. I personally think it might be Merlitz and Alexis. Merlitz because he hasn't been in the comic lately and Alexis because the person she based on pasted away. (may she rest in peace)
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Baal Hadad on August 25, 2009, 12:59:49 AM
I don't know why I have a gut feeling it WILL be Wildy that dies....

Maybe I'm just thinking back to how Regina nearly killed her....
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 25, 2009, 04:16:00 AM
Quote from: Kuari on August 24, 2009, 03:58:13 PM
Hmm...  I predict one of the two will be Merlitz and the one without the boon is Dan.

I agree about the boon, but I'm not sure Dan is one of the 'lucky pair'.  Consider Pip's speech in 847... if Dan's dead, what he thinks about Mab hardly matters.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Draken on August 25, 2009, 09:57:54 AM
Hrrrrm.  This just furthers my feelings of not trusting the poofy purple Fae...  >_<


Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: kaskar on August 26, 2009, 08:56:38 AM

   (http://8)) Don't think Dan dies, ' cause his his name comes up in the title. ( Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures ... )
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Sunblink on August 26, 2009, 09:59:00 AM
YAY DRAMA <3 I am so happy with this comic. I love the fact DMFA has evolved and matured over the years. For some reason I'm more excited over the plot possibilities than devastated over the fact two characters are going to die.

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 24, 2009, 09:32:24 AMHere's a thought. How would Aniz fare against Dan? Give Dan maybe 15 years to get up to speed on his Cubi heritage and all...

I think that depends. At the time Aniz left SAIA, he had no combat training whatsoever and was at least inexperienced enough to make some really embarrassing miscalculations with his "plans." (Such as simply toying with May, Hennya, and Abel and completely destroying Abel's life.) Dan has made a career out of stopping dangerous Creatures and probably has a lot more experience. So I'd put my money on Dan, even though Aniz was able to make mincemeat out of Hennya.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: MT Hazard on August 26, 2009, 10:37:57 AM
My money would also be on Dan, considering if it isn't rule of funny/rule of drama Dan has demonstrated the ability to learn really quickly once he puts his mind to things, that and the backing of a clan leader and it's only Dan's morals that may stop him shredding Aniz.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 26, 2009, 11:46:44 AM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 26, 2009, 09:59:00 AM
At the time Aniz left SAIA, he had no combat training whatsoever and was at least inexperienced enough to make some really embarrassing miscalculations with his "plans." (Such as simply toying with May, Hennya, and Abel and completely destroying Abel's life.) Dan has made a career out of stopping dangerous Creatures and probably has a lot more experience. So I'd put my money on Dan, even though Aniz was able to make mincemeat out of Hennya.

Take into account that Dan has been told not to fight 'Cubi and it gets a bit more interesting.  But to be honest, I think there is rather too much emphasis on the whole 'a'-can-take-out-'B'-easily thing.

The fact is, Dan has no reason to want to fight Aniz right now and it's not a given that Aniz would create a reason either.  What he did to Abel was when he was about half his current age.  Would you (taking Keaton as an example) like to be judged on what you did when you were 9?  In the intervening centuries Aniz may or may not have snapped out of his craziness, and I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on August 26, 2009, 03:12:27 PM
I was actually thinking about the fact Dan's mom asked not to fight other Cubi. Of course, we've seen that if he's provoked, example when he and Abel got in the fruit fight, he will fight other Cubi.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Mao on August 26, 2009, 03:20:14 PM
It should be noted that once, my mom told me never to drink alcohol.  I enjoy beer and scotch now.  What I'm saying is that, just because someone asked you not to do something doesn't mean you won't find  yourself in a situation where you either have to or choose to do it.

Dan has free will and he can and (I believe) will exercise it.  Just because mommy said to not hit other 'cubi doesn't mean that he won't.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Sunblink on August 26, 2009, 03:25:47 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 26, 2009, 11:46:44 AM
Take into account that Dan has been told not to fight 'Cubi and it gets a bit more interesting.  But to be honest, I think there is rather too much emphasis on the whole 'a'-can-take-out-'B'-easily thing.

The fact is, Dan has no reason to want to fight Aniz right now and it's not a given that Aniz would create a reason either.  What he did to Abel was when he was about half his current age.  Would you (taking Keaton as an example) like to be judged on what you did when you were 9?  In the intervening centuries Aniz may or may not have snapped out of his craziness, and I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Oh shoot, I forgot about the whole not fighting Cubi thing. Still, if a hypothetical fight were to occur, I'd bet on Dan.

As far as Aniz goes, that's fair enough, but Aniz wasn't nine when he did what he did. He was an adult that by all means should have been capable of making adult decisions, but was spoiled and coddled by his lack of responsibility and borderline insane. At least, that's how I see it. However, I do see what you mean regarding the possibility of redemption.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 26, 2009, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on August 26, 2009, 03:20:14 PM
Dan has free will and he can and (I believe) will exercise it.  Just because mommy said to not hit other 'cubi doesn't mean that he won't.

Well, that depends whether Dan's word is his bond, doesn't it?  And what he thinks of her.  If someone I deeply respected made me promise never to do something questionable I would try to uphold that promise, if only out of respect for them.  Though I agree that he might put it aside in a case of self-defence.

Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 26, 2009, 03:25:47 PM
As far as Aniz goes, that's fair enough, but Aniz wasn't nine when he did what he did. He was an adult that by all means should have been capable of making adult decisions, but was spoiled and coddled by his lack of responsibility and borderline insane. At least, that's how I see it.

It does scale, though.  I'm embarrassed by some of the things I did as a younger adult, and that was only 10-12 years ago.
Then you've got Kria.  She's 418, and if strip 974 is anything to go by she's only recently started to grow out of causing random mayhem (yes, Aniz was older than that - but Kria didn't spend centuries goofing off in SAIA).
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 26, 2009, 04:58:03 PM
Kria is a demon, though, not a Cubi. Estimated lifespan of 1500, not 3000, so she's equivalent of what you or I might consider to be around 30-35 or so. Whereas Aniz, at 400, would be around 15-20.

Not to mention people differ; some folks are still childish at 50, others are adult at 18. :-/
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Lucheek on August 26, 2009, 09:58:39 PM
On the grassy knoll! D:
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 26, 2009, 10:09:25 PM
... with the banana, at two hundred yards, through the ten-ring?
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Rafe on August 26, 2009, 10:42:09 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 26, 2009, 04:58:03 PM
Kria is a demon, though, not a Cubi. Estimated lifespan of 1500, not 3000, so she's equivalent of what you or I might consider to be around 30-35 or so. Whereas Aniz, at 400, would be around 15-20.

Not to mention people differ; some folks are still childish at 50, others are adult at 18. :-/

Lifespanwise, maybe, but remember though. according to Kria (exactly where, I can't remember), she's stuck at 24.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Naldru on August 26, 2009, 11:01:35 PM
Quote from: Rafe on August 26, 2009, 10:42:09 PM

Lifespanwise, maybe, but remember though. according to Kria (exactly where, I can't remember), she's stuck at 24.
Yes, but she's a very experienced 24.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on August 27, 2009, 12:07:51 AM
Quote from: Rafe on August 26, 2009, 10:42:09 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 26, 2009, 04:58:03 PM
Kria is a demon, though, not a Cubi. Estimated lifespan of 1500, not 3000, so she's equivalent of what you or I might consider to be around 30-35 or so. Whereas Aniz, at 400, would be around 15-20.

Not to mention people differ; some folks are still childish at 50, others are adult at 18. :-/

Lifespanwise, maybe, but remember though. according to Kria (exactly where, I can't remember), she's stuck at 24.

I think your thinking of the perfect date mini comic.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Garsemor on August 27, 2009, 04:57:48 AM
I would place my money on Dan but considerind that Aniz dated his mom, there might be a whole lot of awkward is his Dee would catch wind of it or if Dan found out somehow.
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Sunblink on August 27, 2009, 09:55:47 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 26, 2009, 03:54:45 PM
It does scale, though.  I'm embarrassed by some of the things I did as a younger adult, and that was only 10-12 years ago.

Well yeah, but I doubt you murdered anyone and spent years deliberately manipulating and deceiving people like Aniz did. :P
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Turnsky on August 27, 2009, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 27, 2009, 09:55:47 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 26, 2009, 03:54:45 PM
It does scale, though.  I'm embarrassed by some of the things I did as a younger adult, and that was only 10-12 years ago.

Well yeah, but I doubt you murdered anyone and spent years deliberately manipulating and deceiving people like Aniz did. :P

only in his stories, keats, only in his stories.  >:3
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Tapewolf on August 27, 2009, 02:31:44 PM
Quote from: Turnsky on August 27, 2009, 12:44:19 PM
only in his stories, keats, only in his stories.  >:3

Ah, but where did you think I got the inspiration from?  >:3
Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: rabid_fox on August 27, 2009, 08:16:21 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 27, 2009, 02:31:44 PM
Quote from: Turnsky on August 27, 2009, 12:44:19 PM
only in his stories, keats, only in his stories.  >:3

Ah, but where did you think I got the inspiration from?  >:3

"Fight Club".
Title: Re: 8/23/09[DMFA #1035] WHAT!
Post by: keybounce on September 05, 2009, 12:00:31 PM
Quote from: FSharp on August 23, 2009, 02:55:53 AM
Hard call. The only things I can reference with any certainty are Mab and Fa'Lina's odd temporal relationship (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_581.php)
Hey, that's a fun arc to re-read.

#501: "Like him being some fabled half-breed that will cause certain doom to the cubi race if he was not contained... Thus, she kidnapped him to prevent the destruction of the entire world as we know it".

#502: Rats can get you anywhere.

Mab and Aary are very similar looking.
Ohh -- CMY warp-acis on 541. M is "Nutmeg" (599); who are C and Y?
Flaming hypocrite and "Why are there beds in the rooms at all then?".
I think 536 is the first bipolar with cookies comic.

... and, not quite in the arc anymore, # 623 where Alexsi is only the 3rd scariest thing. Fa'lina and Wildy, perhaps?

Hmm... Fa'lina doesn't show on the cast page.

Quotea character who has been offscreen for a long time returning,
We saw a female cow yelling "For the Horde" a while back. I just realized that cows are a horde race in World of Warcraft.

QuoteHere are the parts of the list that haven't been fulfilled yet:
( 2 ) Crude Generalization of an Often Misunderstood Group of People to Incite Fan Rage (may have been done with vampires, but I'm not sure)
( 3 ) Killing Off a Character
( 5 ) Sprite Comic
( 7 ) Gaming Comic
Well, we've seen Sprites. We're going to see "Killing off", and as some have said, that's already happened in Abel's story. If the vamp angel is included, that only leaves a gaming comic and then ... egads, we've seen the rats and Dan gaming in the basement.

The list is about to be fulfilled! Complete and total ... unknown ahead

Title: Re: 08/23/09 [DMFA #1035] - WHAT!
Post by: Keleth on September 05, 2009, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on August 27, 2009, 09:55:47 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 26, 2009, 03:54:45 PM
It does scale, though.  I'm embarrassed by some of the things I did as a younger adult, and that was only 10-12 years ago.

Well yeah, but I doubt you murdered anyone and spent years deliberately manipulating and deceiving people like Aniz did. :P

That makes me wonder. . . .


If I murdered someone 5 years ago, does that mean I shouldn't get punished?

I mean, I might become a super saint in that time, and I won't have to serve terms right? :3