... the better question, why is a tripod mounted display board stalking abel
Quote from: Basilisk2150 on June 27, 2009, 01:11:15 AM
... the better question, why is a tripod mounted display board stalking abel
Tripods stalking people is one of my biggest nightmares. :erk
Seriously, though, that was hilarious. :giggle
Fa'Lina is hiding in the shadows, masking her presence because she felt Cyra visit Dan and wants to make things more awkward later on. The Diagram was put there by her.
I just knew something like this was going to happen. (sarcasm starts) It's been a long time since we saw Abel freak out. (sarcasm ends)
It's properly just Fi who changed appearance again. That or it's the beginning of the invasion of the killer diagrams.
The one ting I've learned form being on a forum where magic is ALWAYS the cause:
BLAME MAGIC.
I wish I had magic Diagrams to explain everything I said.
Heck, half the time I don't know what I'm talking about.
I theorize that these diagrams and such are physical manifestations of power. In abel's case this is subconscious magic but in Fa'Lina's case she is conscious of it.
... I must be tired, because it took me a moment to get why Abel was so freaked out. But now... *sporfleroflol* Awesome, Amber.
*blinkblinks* I thought summonings involved more or less a single input of power in the DMFAverse rather than continuous. This apparently significantly affects something else I'd _THOUGHT_ I'd figured out. *chuckles*
What happens if the flow stops? They "die" and return to their original world? (what does it mean that it's a place of "non-sensation"?)
Wait... I thought in principle it was possible for a summoner to free their warp aci or such. How does that work if the need the continual influx of power to remain in the "regular" dmfa world?
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on June 27, 2009, 01:55:23 AM
*blinkblinks* I thought summonings involved more or less a single input of power in the DMFAverse rather than continuous. This apparently significantly affects something else I'd _THOUGHT_ I'd figured out. *chuckles*
What happens if the flow stops? They "die" and return to their original world? (what does it mean that it's a place of "non-sensation"?)
Wait... I thought in principle it was possible for a summoner to free their warp aci or such. How does that work if the need the continual influx of power to remain in the "regular" dmfa world?
I'm thinking that the magic is like food and water for normal beings: they need pretty much a constant input of the stuff or their die. Now, obviously magic doesn't seem to follow those rules, but I guess magic could be acting as the "food source" for Warp Aci that sustains them, and you don't want some parasite leeching too much power off of you. And yeah, if they lost that supply then I guess the Warp Aci would return to their home plane. Or something along those lines. I wonder if Warp Aci can only gain the energy to sustain them through their summoner, or if they can gain some from areas of high magical energy. Or heck, what about food?
I have to point my finger at Mab,Alex or Alzan again or a random fae
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on June 27, 2009, 01:55:23 AM
*blinkblinks* I thought summonings involved more or less a single input of power in the DMFAverse rather than continuous. This apparently significantly affects something else I'd _THOUGHT_ I'd figured out. *chuckles*
Amber Williams, Smacking your theorem upside the head since the dawn of time.
If Fa'Lina is behind that joke she is my new favorite character :mowcookie
I like how Abel included 16 year old girls in the list of most popular warp-aci summoners... though I don't think Abel would be prepared for a diagram stalking him.
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on June 27, 2009, 01:55:23 AM
...and return to their original world? (what does it mean that it's a place of "non-sensation"?)
They come from
between... but without the intense cold (read McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern series).
I love the dragon aci so far all we have seen cute balonish aci. Hmmm no to go design a awesome loooking aci
I always said they were for girls - I thought I was just being facetious, though...
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on June 27, 2009, 01:55:23 AM
What happens if the flow stops? They "die" and return to their original world? (what does it mean that it's a place of "non-sensation"?)
Wait... I thought in principle it was possible for a summoner to free their warp aci or such. How does that work if the need the continual influx of power to remain in the "regular" dmfa world?
As I understand it, when the summoner dies, the warp-aci evapourates and goes back to its native dimension (see demonology).
However, I'm not entirely sure what happens when the link to the warp-aci is broken - in theory that should have stopped the flow of power, since Fa'Lina was no longer able to detect Fi and if it was still drawing power she should have been able to feel it, at least in principle.
Either way, what this strip seems to be saying is that Dan hasn't been regulating the power allowed to Fi, and when Cyra met him, it was able to do things which a properly-regulated warp-aci shouldn't, i.e. turn itself into a butterball.
Quote from: Baal Hadad on June 27, 2009, 01:13:28 AM
Tripods stalking people is one of my biggest nightmares. :erk
I still can't watch that series (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AmykynKhMw).
I agree with Ominous. This is probably Fa'Lina's doing. No way she wouldnt sense Cyra's sudden stirring, even in SAIA
Its a cubi racial ability 'summon relevant images' even Dan has done it once (by accident) when talking about the possible connection between Abel and his mother.
Quote from: Teroniss on June 27, 2009, 05:06:19 AM
I agree with Ominous. This is probably Fa'Lina's doing. No way she wouldnt sense Cyra's sudden stirring, even in SAIA
... unless Cyra was deliberately or accidentally doing something to hide herself or her children from people. Like, say, the Dragons...
Oh, wait. She is.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 27, 2009, 05:24:20 AM
Quote from: Teroniss on June 27, 2009, 05:06:19 AM
I agree with Ominous. This is probably Fa'Lina's doing. No way she wouldnt sense Cyra's sudden stirring, even in SAIA
... unless Cyra was deliberately or accidentally doing something to hide herself or her children from people. Like, say, the Dragons...
Oh, wait. She is.
well, it's excusable that some would miss out that detail in favor of a explanation they can live with, and imagine horribly written fanfics for. >:3
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 27, 2009, 05:05:13 AM
I still can't watch that series (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AmykynKhMw).
Wait, those books got a tv series? The White Mountains, The City Of Gold And Lead, and Pool Of Fire? Jesus, those were creepy enough when I read them growing up.
Seeing as Dan doesn't use magic too much and is also getting an extra boost from Cyra, is there any reason he can't go ahead and invest half his power in Fi?
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on June 27, 2009, 05:54:09 AM
Wait, those books got a tv series? The White Mountains, The City Of Gold And Lead, and Pool Of Fire? Jesus, those were creepy enough when I read them growing up.
They only filmed the first two books, unfortunately. Either way the series royally creeped me out as a kid. Someday I'll have to read the books.
The fact it makes the butterball biiiiiig apparently. I like it though. =)
And yay, Abel freaking out. I love it when he does that. :mwaha
You know what's really creepy?
I watched Night of the Living Dead for the first time in my life just last night! (If you don't get it, Amber makes a blatant reference in today's comic).
Quote from: Sofox on June 27, 2009, 06:11:41 AM
You know what's really creepy?
I watched Night of the Living Dead for the first time in my life just last night! (If you don't get it, Amber makes a blatant reference in today's comic).
Did she? What'd she do, then?
Quote from: !KCA on June 27, 2009, 05:58:47 AM
Seeing as Dan doesn't use magic too much and is also getting an extra boost from Cyra, is there any reason he can't go ahead and invest half his power in Fi?
Because he'd run the risk of Fi being more powerful and/or capable than him. Given that Fi isn't particularly with it, that would not be a Good Thing. Think small child walking an adult labrador...
EDIT:
One thing that's just occurred to me - Dan doesn't seem to have had any angst issues given that he went all tentacular on Regina and tried to shred her with his evil 'Cubi powers. Maybe he's got over the 'I'm a monster' thing, or maybe that'll happen later.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 27, 2009, 05:05:13 AM
However, I'm not entirely sure what happens when the link to the warp-aci is broken - in theory that should have stopped the flow of power, since Fa'Lina was no longer able to detect Fi and if it was still drawing power she should have been able to feel it, at least in principle.
Well, it's not a given that a Warp-Aci dies instantly the moment the flow cut off.
<far-out theory>
And maybe the sword had its own power reserves (Wasn't it magical in some way?), so Fi maybe established a temporary bond with it? Alternatively, it acted as a sort of stasis pod, so Fi's un-linked time outside was just the ten seconds it needed to teleport Dan to SAIA, at which point Fa'Lina or someone else may have fed it some juice temporarily.
</far-out theory>
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 27, 2009, 06:28:23 AM
Because he'd run the risk of Fi being more powerful and/or capable than him. Given that Fi isn't particularly with it, that would not be a Good Thing. Think small child walking an adult labrador...
...like Chiyo-chan and Mr. Tadakichi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxryj5KZun8)? xD
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 27, 2009, 06:28:23 AM
One thing that's just occurred to me - Dan doesn't seem to have had any angst issues given that he went all tentacular on Regina and tried to shred her with his evil 'Cubi powers. Maybe he's got over the 'I'm a monster' thing, or maybe that'll happen later.
He may still consider himself a quasi-monster, but probably accepted it for the time being because the powers come in handy against the
real monsters? Just my guess, you raise a good point.
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on June 27, 2009, 05:54:09 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 27, 2009, 05:05:13 AM
I still can't watch that series (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AmykynKhMw).
Wait, those books got a tv series? The White Mountains, The City Of Gold And Lead, and Pool Of Fire? Jesus, those were creepy enough when I read them growing up.
the only tripods i feared fired heatrays and came from mars.
Quote from: Sid on June 27, 2009, 06:51:12 AM
He may still consider himself a quasi-monster, but probably accepted it for the time being because the powers come in handy against the real monsters? Just my guess, you raise a good point.
I'd like to think so. I guess we'll find out in due course.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 27, 2009, 05:24:20 AM
Quote from: Teroniss on June 27, 2009, 05:06:19 AM
I agree with Ominous. This is probably Fa'Lina's doing. No way she wouldnt sense Cyra's sudden stirring, even in SAIA
... unless Cyra was deliberately or accidentally doing something to hide herself or her children from people. Like, say, the Dragons...
Oh, wait. She is.
I don't remember it being said that the Dragon's were after the entirety of Cyra's clan, only Destania and her ilk. (Which my guess is due to her hiding Aniz from Hizell in Abel's Story, but thats neither here nor there.) Now if that implies that since Cyra made it seem like Destania was the only one left in her clan, that the Dragon's would also be after her, I guess I didnt make that connection, oh well.
But from what Ive read so far, it seems the dragon's are only after Destania and her family.
Quote from: Teroniss on June 27, 2009, 07:11:19 AM
I don't remember it being said that the Dragon's were after the entirety of Cyra's clan, only Destania and her ilk.
Well, in strip 728, Fa'Lina says "The second any dragon finds out Dan is from Cyra's clan, they are going to try to kill him" (except for Pyroduck).
It may not be that simple of course, but an attack on Cyra Clan itself sounds like it to me. It's possible that the dragons - or certain factions thereof - have a vendetta against all clans with a tri-winged Founder, but that is strictly a theory.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 27, 2009, 06:19:11 AM
Did she? What'd she do, then?
I don't know, but could it be the subtitle?
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on June 27, 2009, 05:54:09 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 27, 2009, 05:05:13 AM
I still can't watch that series (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AmykynKhMw).
Wait, those books got a tv series? The White Mountains, The City Of Gold And Lead, and Pool Of Fire? Jesus, those were creepy enough when I read them growing up.
Apparently, Touchstone Pictures is going to release a movie trilogy of the series, with the first movie scheduled for 2012.
Quote from: Turnsky on June 27, 2009, 06:51:31 AM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on June 27, 2009, 05:54:09 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 27, 2009, 05:05:13 AM
I still can't watch that series (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AmykynKhMw).
Wait, those books got a tv series? The White Mountains, The City Of Gold And Lead, and Pool Of Fire? Jesus, those were creepy enough when I read them growing up.
the only tripods i feared fired heatrays and came from mars.
These ones Capped your head which destroyed your willpower and creativity and turned you into a smiling, nonthreatening, perpetually happy drone. At least, that's how I remember it being. The Capped were always quiet, perpetually normal, and unassuming, and one chapter reflected on how a girl they'd met on their escape went from rambunctious and energetic to docile and smiling when she was Capped.
And when the Tripod is chasing the three of them via tracking... the ominousness of it is just *brrgh*. It was when I was in high school, anyway. Yay thread derailment to talk about books.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 27, 2009, 05:05:13 AM
As I understand it, when the summoner dies, the warp-aci evapourates and goes back to its native dimension (see demonology).
From the relevant demo 101 page: "While most Warp-Aci automatically return to their realm upon their owner's death, some will simply become free-ranging Aci."
Hence the puzzle. :)
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on June 27, 2009, 10:27:40 AM
These ones Capped your head which destroyed your willpower and creativity and turned you into a smiling, nonthreatening, perpetually happy drone.
so... people who
like Uwe Boll movies, "Idol" and other assorted reality television? >:3
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on June 27, 2009, 10:33:57 AM
From the relevant demo 101 page: "While most Warp-Aci automatically return to their realm upon their owner's death, some will simply become free-ranging Aci."
Hence the puzzle. :)
I have a small theory about how it might be possible. If the summoner transfers all/a large enough percentage of they're magical energy to the warp-aci it might become a stable being from this realm then a summoned visitor form another. We know that aci are from a other realm which means that they are part of that world and when the are summoned to another realm it forms a sort of gap in because they're magic has left it's place in nature and that place is being kept reserved and empty. This gap will try to suck the aci back to it's place but the aci is being kept in this world using a sort of chain linking it to it's summoner. If this chain is broken (the summoner dies or severs the link) the aci's magical energy will soon be pulled back in to the gap, but if the summoner sends enough magic to the aci, it will replace the magic that is sucked back in to the gap allowing the aci to remain in this realm.
In short if the summoner replaces the magic that is sucked back in to the origin, of the aci's magic, whit his own the, aci will no longer be tied to it's realm but instead become a creature of this realm and be free to dance around in meadows. :boogie (too bad that there aren't any warp-aci emotion faces)
One last simplification if the summoner gives his magic to the aci it will become a creature of this realm and loses it's ties to it's original realm.
Hello there, I am new here~ I read this thread a bit previously, and I'd like to say I think the tripod thing is just for randomness's sake, but as for Fi... Think sponge with water. Dan's suddenly giving off a LOT of power since he's been suppressing his magic power the entire time since he was a child due to trauma, and now that he let it go, it's like opening the floodgates. Now, if Fi's a magical sponge, being hit by that flood of magic is definitely gonna inflate him a few sizes.
Yay for unbearably logical Aspies!
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 27, 2009, 05:05:13 AM
However, I'm not entirely sure what happens when the link to the warp-aci is broken - in theory that should have stopped the flow of power, since Fa'Lina was no longer able to detect Fi and if it was still drawing power she should have been able to feel it, at least in principle.
Well, the sword that Fi hid in was from Matilda's -- remember that she sells devices with magical portals to pocket dimension "homes" - this is why Fi was able to hide "in" the sword. Probably he sensed the portal and dove into it in his panic to get away from the TEETH! Being in the pocket dimension probably isolated him/it from Fa'lina's detection. The lack of power flow though may have been why Fi came back out -- he got "hungry" essentially.
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on June 27, 2009, 10:33:57 AM
From the relevant demo 101 page: "While most Warp-Aci automatically return to their realm upon their owner's death, some will simply become free-ranging Aci."
Free-ranging, grass-fed Aci ... it's what's for dinner.
I suggest don't try it... Warp-aci are terribly bitter-tasting. ><
And your tongue ends up looking like you ate a burnt marshmallow. ;)
I tried licking one just to test the texture... I didn't think they would have an actual taste... they do. Tastes like ash mixed with overcooked asparagus. Bleeech!
Abel is just not having a very good week, is he? Lots of new expressions. Maybe Amber's starting to draw him differently and I'm just a doofus.
Well I made my Aci see my signature, I just wish I had my tablet working doing it via laptop mouse is hard
That was funny. Oooo, I just had an idea for a new horror movie, stalker diagrams.
I don't think XKCD has done that gag, maybe Amber should try copyrighting it. XD Just kidding. I love the sneaky graphs, perhaps it's a similar thing to the Warp Aci? Subconscious Visual Aid Summoning? Interesting skill, would probably switch from being setting for that particular one, would help in school, and for my dissertation.
these things happen no one is to blame so don't even try to find a signature on the graph or an label of ownership on the tripod M'kay?
I think the reason Fi changed was that Dan isn't in good control of his powers as it is so now that there is an increase in Dan's power the overflow is getting transferred to Fi
Quote from: Jer-oh-me on June 27, 2009, 08:51:32 PM
I don't think XKCD has done that gag, maybe Amber should try copyrighting it. XD Just kidding. I love the sneaky graphs, perhaps it's a similar thing to the Warp Aci? Subconscious Visual Aid Summoning? Interesting skill, would probably switch from being setting for that particular one, would help in school, and for my dissertation.
Well, XKCD did do a strip about a rather dangerous diagram (http://xkcd.com/356/).