"And I firmly believe that Daniel Petric had no idea, at the time he hatched this plot, that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/06/16/halo-3-teen-killer-gets-life-murder-mom-parole-23-years
It is a lie, My parent's respawned after I shot them.
(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/541/petricsentence.jpg) (http://img150.imageshack.us/i/petricsentence.jpg/)
Thoughts: "I can't believe they are falling for this."
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t273/KrisS7777/Funnyanimesub.jpg)
Immediately went to GIS to find it, because it was the first thing to come to mind.
So his defense is that he has the IQ of a walnut?
Did anyone here not know that death was permenant by the time they were in kindergarten?
If he jury buys this BS, I will have to declare marshall law and set myself up as judge, jury AND executioner. The justice of the Charles shall be swift! >:3
At least he has a positive Kill/Death ratio.
It's good to know I never have to worry about regaining my faith in humanity. It never fails, any and I mean ANY time I have a situation come up where I start getting just a leeeeeettle bit of it back, something like this happens. If serious immersion in violent media caused people to 'lose it' the way this judge thinks. Then humanity would have been wiped out with the advent of the feature film, long before video games were even a blip in a young scientists head.
This blame everything but ourselves society we're progressing further and further into disgusts me more and more each day.
In closing, and 'scuse the language, humanity is fucking retarded!
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on June 17, 2009, 04:54:40 AM
Immediately went to GIS to find it, because it was the first thing to come to mind.
Emiya always was a sharp one.
I'd say that I find myself stunned, or flabbergasted, except that I do not.
However, from the text of the article, it's not clear whether the defendant tried to use this argument, or whether this is something the judge managed to come up with on his own. It seems despite his surely-insightful judicial wisdom, he sentenced the boy to life in prison with possibility of parole, which is halfway comforting. Hopefully he'll learn that life doesn't have a respawn timer in prison.
Wow. Yeah, no video game could persuade someone to believe that if someone died they'd respawn. If the kid actually used that as his argument he had serious issues to begin with. :januscat
I've been playing violent video games for over 20 years. Does that mean I'm liable to be a homicidal maniac? Dumbass judge. He says they don't know enough about these games, and then says that the kid is addicted to the games.
This is only going to fuel the Jack Thompson's of the world. I can already see it coming.
D: we need to send more flowers to quell the Jack Thompson's of the world
This image is all that needs to be said. (http://raoworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/double-facepalm.jpg)
About the worst thing I've personally seen from Halo 3 gamers is that when it came out, many chose to play it instead of doing a research paper for arts of expression class. As much as they should, stories like this don't surprise me at all anymore, sad, but I guess there's a limit at X approaches negative infinity...
i've said it once, i've said it twice, i'll say it as many times as necessary.
If you cannot tell the difference between fantasy and reality, then you're pretty bloody screwed up in the head in the first place.
Quote from: Netrogo on June 17, 2009, 09:40:09 AM
It's good to know I never have to worry about regaining my faith in humanity.
I still had a little. Then I poked around some of the links on that page. Now I think I'm gonna go be a hermit.
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on June 17, 2009, 10:58:05 AM
I've been playing violent video games for over 20 years. Does that mean I'm liable to be a homicidal maniac?
Because, you know, a dozen people represent a group of thousands or millions. People need to learn the difference between violent people playing video games, and people playing violent video games. They're not the same! 'A'
Quote from: Dekari on June 17, 2009, 11:13:38 AM
This image is all that needs to be said. (http://raoworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/double-facepalm.jpg)
You're on the right path, but I think this should sum it up nicely...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/Netrogo/epic-facepalm.jpg)
To be fair, Halo 19 makes me pretty parent-murdery too.
uuuuummmmmmmmmmm. Im 13. play video games all the time. and I know that if I killed my parents theyd not come back to life. And also saying that im a 13 year old who plays lots of video games.
SAYING THAT VIDEO GAMES MAKE PEOPLE GO CRAZY IS CRAZY IN ITS SELF.
I wholly agree with that, cruz. I've actually learned many things useful to life from all the games I've played, and not only that, games can also help gain abilities you might not normally have like endurance with DDR. I know for a fact I'm a better shot with a gun because of all the sniping I'd do in games like Halo because I used to be a horrible shot, didn't have to opportunity to try for a number of years, and I go to shoot again and I'm an excellent shot in comparison. The US Army recruits, or at least used to try to recruit, people who would do exceptionally well in the game America's Army. Games are not only a good time with friends, they also help improve your life. Unless you're a freakin' idiot who'd go on a shooting spree with or without video games. :januscat
Yeah like little psycho here. Plus the story said that the kid tod them to close there eyes tand that he had a surprise for them. Yeah cause that sounds like a ton of video games.
Also why did the father ask for leniance. I know its his son but.
Quote from: cruz928 on June 18, 2009, 02:20:34 PM
Also why did the father ask for leniance. I know its his son but.
I would imagine for that reason, and because prison isn't going to get his wife back. Way I see it, laws are there to prevent crimes, and prisons are there to keep violent or dangerous people off the streets (the intent, at various times, also being to reform, though I'm not sure how well that's working). Yes, the kid committed a crime, yes, he should be punished, but IF he's not going to be a menace to society in the future, why have him killed or sent away for life or whatever?
Edit to clarify: If I was shot and/or killed, this would be what I'd like to see happen; I don't just mean that in regards to this guy.
The thing is. He killed his mother and shot his father also trying to make it look like a murder suicide. Over a video game. We dont know what hes going to do to other people
Also. please excuse the mistakes I make in typing.
Well, perhaps this is a psychological problem, not a problem that will be helped by sending him up the river? I mean, maybe it isn't, but it's something to think about.
Yeah thats true but if he has a psycological problem hed still be sent away to an asylum or something.
Quote from: cruz928 on June 18, 2009, 02:30:46 PM
The thing is. He killed his mother and shot his father also trying to make it look like a murder suicide. Over a video game. We dont know what hes going to do to other people
Also. please excuse the mistakes I make in typing.
Exactly. If he's doing things like this at his age, he's a psychopathic lunatic who cannot be allowed to roam freely in society.
Quote from: cruz928 on June 18, 2009, 02:35:15 PM
Yeah thats true but if he has a psycological problem hed still be sent away to an asylum or something.
I'd probably agree with you on this point. Just being put in a cage isn't going to do much for him. If he can be "reprogrammed" then, it goes back to my previous question. If not, then yeah, it would be for the best to keep him out of society.
Yeah either way hes being sent away. even though I personally believe he should be in an assylum but you know.
He'd probably get the help that he desperately needs in a mental health institute. Shipping him off to jail most likely won't help, and will probably only make his situation worse. The majority of people in jail are, or will become, repeat offenders (I'm pretty sure there are statistics to back that up too).
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on June 18, 2009, 05:09:34 PM
He'd probably get the help that he desperately needs in a mental health institute. Shipping him off to jail most likely won't help, and will probably only make his situation worse. The majority of people in jail are, or will become, repeat offenders (I'm pretty sure there are statistics to back that up too).
Some people simply need to be put away for their entire lives because they will never be anything but dangerous to other people. Somebody who starts out like this has a very high probablility of being one of those.
Ahahaha, this kid looks like a real winner all right.
Quote from: Alondro on June 18, 2009, 06:30:47 PM
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on June 18, 2009, 05:09:34 PM
He'd probably get the help that he desperately needs in a mental health institute. Shipping him off to jail most likely won't help, and will probably only make his situation worse. The majority of people in jail are, or will become, repeat offenders (I'm pretty sure there are statistics to back that up too).
Some people simply need to be put away for their entire lives because they will never be anything but dangerous to other people. Somebody who starts out like this has a very high probablility of being one of those.
Similarly, this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pinker) has a high probability (80%) of being bald. (Don't believe me? He's quoted in the NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/magazine/11Genome-t.html?pagewanted=8).) Maybe he can't be cured, but maybe he can.
Quote from: modelincard on June 19, 2009, 07:31:29 AM
Quote from: Alondro on June 18, 2009, 06:30:47 PM
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on June 18, 2009, 05:09:34 PM
He'd probably get the help that he desperately needs in a mental health institute. Shipping him off to jail most likely won't help, and will probably only make his situation worse. The majority of people in jail are, or will become, repeat offenders (I'm pretty sure there are statistics to back that up too).
Some people simply need to be put away for their entire lives because they will never be anything but dangerous to other people. Somebody who starts out like this has a very high probablility of being one of those.
Similarly, this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pinker) has a high probability (80%) of being bald. (Don't believe me? He's quoted in the NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/magazine/11Genome-t.html?pagewanted=8).) Maybe he can't be cured, but maybe he can.
Somehow, I doubt hair loss is as dangerous to the general populace as murder. An 80% chance of hair loss, people can deal with. An 80% chance someone else innocent is killed, a bit more serious I should think.
You know, I did a research project one time that argued that on some individuals, those particularly susceptible to addiction and drug abuse, video game addiction can be akin to drug addiction in very many similar aspects. In particular, in some extreme cases, violent tendencies as a result of detachment from reality.
Quote from: Teroniss on June 19, 2009, 10:53:34 PM
You know, I did a research project one time that argued that on some individuals, those particularly susceptible to addiction and drug abuse, video game addiction can be akin to drug addiction in very many similar aspects. In particular, in some extreme cases, violent tendencies as a result of detachment from reality.
Video games must be regulated by the FDA! :3
lulz
Quote from: Alondro on June 19, 2009, 11:06:05 PM
Quote from: Teroniss on June 19, 2009, 10:53:34 PM
You know, I did a research project one time that argued that on some individuals, those particularly susceptible to addiction and drug abuse, video game addiction can be akin to drug addiction in very many similar aspects. In particular, in some extreme cases, violent tendencies as a result of detachment from reality.
Video games must be regulated by the FDA! :3
lulz
Lol, seriously though. My psychology group at my university performed a study on addiction and the effects of it on those psychologically prone to addiction when involved with other media. My group focused on the media of video games, and we performed the study in a controlled environments with three groups. (Based on taken surveys, involved in asking question about previous addictions the participants may have had, if any. The first group was comprised of those whose surveys predicted high addictive behavior, the second group involved those who had not previous gotten involved in any addictive substances or had a low disposition for it, and the last group was chosen at random without taking the survey as a control group/placebo group.) Those found to have a more psychological proneness to addiction experienced heightened stress effects while playing long sessions (4 hours+) of gaming more often than the non-addictive group, roughly a 4 to 1 ratio out of 12 person groups. In the control group, 1/3 were found to exhibit similar psychological stressors as those in the addictive group.
Quote from: Teroniss on June 19, 2009, 11:17:15 PM
Lol, seriously though. My psychology group at my university performed a study on addiction and the effects of it on those psychologically prone to addiction when involved with other media. My group focused on the media of video games, and we performed the study in a controlled environments with three groups. (Based on taken surveys, involved in asking question about previous addictions the participants may have had, if any. The first group was comprised of those whose surveys predicted high addictive behavior, the second group involved those who had not previous gotten involved in any addictive substances or had a low disposition for it, and the last group was chosen at random without taking the survey as a control group/placebo group.) Those found to have a more psychological proneness to addiction experienced heightened stress effects while playing long sessions (4 hours+) of gaming more often than the non-addictive group, roughly a 4 to 1 ratio out of 12 person groups. In the control group, 1/3 were found to exhibit similar psychological stressors as those in the addictive group.
Interesting study. Honestly I see people who're highly prone to addiction (HPtA) as being mentally deficient, not unlike someone with down syndrome or something equally serious. They're people who're not in absolute control of their mental functions if they find themselves easily influenced by outside sources. To me even if they proved one hundred percent that HPtA people would become violent from prolonged violent game exposure, that would just make me think those kind of people should be treated as special needs and/or children and not allowed near the games. Basically it may be proved that it's not directly their fault that they did it, but it's STILL not the games fault.
Video games, psychosis, none of those apply to this kid, in my opinion..
Bad parenting, on the other hand...
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on June 17, 2009, 04:54:40 AM
Immediately went to GIS to find it, because it was the first thing to come to mind.
I believe his train of thought was more like this: http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7946/ppldieiftheyarekilledxi6.jpg
Oh...just when I think I'm starting to overcome my misanthropy....
I never thought by taking something like a gun, and shooting someone, that they might die from it.
I never thought watching Kurt Russel and Sylvestor Stallone kill people, meant that people I shot would die from it.
:<
I never thought if I jumped off a cliff, I'd fall from it.
Durrrrr hurrrrrrrrr
PILLS HE- I mean Darwin Awards here!
Geez, I thought things like this is why you gave children pets, so that they could learn that death is perminent! But I am reminded of this story: http://www.nypost.com/seven/02212009/news/nationalnews/cops__11_year_old_pa_boy_kills_dads_preg_156288.htm
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2263348.ece
Somehow it seems that most people don't realize that it's not the game (or music) that does it. Games don't make people shoot other people just by being played, it happens because these people have something wrong with themselves in the first place, as I'm sure we all (should) know. Same goes for music, people don't shoot other people because the music has to do with things like that. It's simply the reason I just listed. What they need to do is send them to a professional who can cure this type of psychological stuff. But hell, (pardon my french) even that's dangerous for said professional, because practically anything can be used as a weapon, they'll just revert to their previous thinking that they will respawn, or something like that. And with music the try to sue the person who made the music, which is just stupid. It's a wonder they didn't try to sue Bungie for this "shooting". But I will hush now, as I have better things to do. Sorry for ranting.
After playing Oblivion, I went picking flowers.
F*ck you, gaming industry, f*ck you.
After playing Persona 3, I learned its ok to shoot yourself in the head.
I find the idea that a game can influence you to kill someone ludicrous I mean, when I kill people it's mostly for sexual reasons-
Wait, did I say that out loud?