I guess this is where I will dump my artz. :3
Deviantart Account (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/)
FurAffinity Account (http://www.furaffinity.net/user/arroyo/)
Ustream Account (http://www.livestream.com/DrawlyLawly?t=566936)
Tumblr Account (http://the-river-blues.tumblr.com/)
Request status: Closed
Art trade status: Open
AT/Request List:
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Page one:
Tierra's magic word (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/What-Tierra-likes-110074489)
AWESOME ARROYO (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/AWESOME-ARROYO-110503779)
Quick Gaia avatar sketch (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Gaia-avatar-2-6-09-sketch-112032529)
The grim crisper sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0089.jpg)
Tierra's Wingding shirt (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0090.jpg)
2009 small Arroyo ref. sheet (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/IMAGE0092.jpg)
I stopped caring in the middle of this one (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0093.jpg)
A sketch of Nole (I might color this one once I do some touchups to it) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0094.jpg)
Another Arroyo forum avatar thingie : 3 (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/sillyaroyoavatarnormal.jpg)
Arroyo sprite v3, take two~ (http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3163/v3spriteretake.png)
Night at the Rave (sketch) (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Night-at-the-Rave-sketch-117210946)
Night at the Rave (colored!) (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Night-at-the-Rave-117842938)
Tierra's Lovely Melons (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0001.jpg)
Arroyo's Business card (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Arroyo-Business-card-119295282)
Resonance! Arroyo and Gaia Arroyo (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Resonance-OC-and-Gaia-120579519)
A Fighter's Grace (Sketch) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0020.jpg)
A sample sheet of my V3 sprites (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/samplesheet09.png)
A Fighter's Grace (colored!) (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/A-Fighter-s-Grace-122087778)
Page 2
Muscle practice sketch-Arroyo (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Arroyo-boredom-sketch-122748113)
Eye of the storm weapon sketch (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Eye-of-the-storm-sword-final-123469702)
Bust sketch dump I (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Bust-sketch-dump-I-123469451)
Yet another sprite sample sheet (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/samplesheet09-1.png)
Some...kind of practice sketch of Arroyo I guess... (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0106.jpg)
Tierra's Delicious Melons (Remade and colored) (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Tierra-s-Delicious-Melons-125826792)
Arroyo's 2009 ref. sheet (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Arroyo-Milori-Ref-Sheet-09-126188704)
Gaia Headshot doodle (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Gaia-headshot-6-09-127195630)
The Wittle Matyrian (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/The-Wittle-Matyrian-128139779)
Devyn Sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0010.jpg)
Moonlit Patrol (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Moonlit-Patrol-130733340)
Arroyo Milori practice sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0018.jpg)
Drawliet Law practice sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0019.jpg)
Down by the River (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Down-by-the-River-132614684)
What Tierra wants (Sketch/ slightly NSFW) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0031.jpg)
Sneaky Arroyo Icon (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Sneaky-Arroyo-Icon-133378584)
Steampunkish Arroyo (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Steampunkish-Arroyo-134709909)
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Fighterish Citrine (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Fighterish-Citrine-135074141)
Buying beats (sketch) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0033.jpg)
Arroyo V4 sprite prototype (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5093/arroyov4.png)
Buying Beats Inking (http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3937/nicowip.png)
U mad? (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Lol-U-Mad-136398822)
Raveish Tierra (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Raveish-Tierra-137067509)
Scientistish Aric (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Scientistish-Aric-137901880)
Urbanish Devyn (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Urbanish-Devyn-138407474)
The hell am I going to make next? Sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0035.jpg)
Amused Tierra sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0036.jpg)
...What did you say?! (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/What-did-you-say-139875414)
ZEN creative (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/ZEN-creative-140201853)
Tierra's Commericial parody (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Tierra-s-commerical-parody-141346159)
Modernish Arroyo Icon (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Modernish-Arroyo-Icon-141371212)
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Gastly Thriller Sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0041.jpg)
Gibus Thriller (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Gibus-Thriller-142341981)
A Tierrable amount of Doodles (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/A-Tierraizing-page-of-Doodles-143105437)
Clownish Drawliet (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Clownish-Drawliet-143847646)
Comfort Zone Sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0145.jpg)
Project Ornament sketches 1 (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/ornamentcollection1.jpg)
Another Citrine Sketch (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3129600)
Arroyo Bored Icon (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3159894)
Project Ornament Tierra (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3168583)
Project Ornament Arroyo (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3170513)
FlipNote: Arroyo and the Cardboard box (http://flipnote.hatena.com/5A6290C0CE1C38F0@DSi/movie/1C38F0_0961083478C8C_009?in=user)
FlipNote: Arroyo Icon (http://flipnote.hatena.com/5A6290C0CE1C38F0@DSi/movie/1C38F0_0961AF05B4EC4_003?in=user)
FlipNote: Candus in a Bag (http://flipnote.hatena.com/5A6290C0CE1C38F0@DSi/movie/1C38F0_09622389B0BCE_001?in=user)
Art Summary Meme 2009 (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Art-summary-2009-148470119)
Giftsketch: Peria (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Giftsketch-Peria-148950559)
Improvement Meme (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Improvement-Meme-2006-2009-149373257)
Wading in the Water (sketch) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0150.jpg)
Wading in the Water(Final) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3280763)
THAT ARROYO IS A SCOUT! (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3322709)
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Arroyo Sprite Progress (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/The-Sprites-of-Arroyo-152835045)
Taking a Stroll~ (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Just-taking-a-stroll-154855447)
Character Trait Meme (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Character-Trait-Meme-154874934)
A Moment of Prayer (Sketch) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0157.jpg)
Art trade with Kikyo (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3512887)
Bonk'd! (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Bonk-d-Scout-Arroyo-156377097)
Daily Prayer (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3590405)
Closeup Arroyo Doodle (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3617859)
I WANT IT! (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3621443)
Bonk'd Icon for Nurren (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3650187)
Quick Bust of Drawliet (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3689758)
DannyG Pyro BONK'D icon (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3725913)
Derrick Sniper BONK'D Icon (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3760044)
YOU SHALL NOT PASS! (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3765174)
My Necron Army (as of April 2010) (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Necron-Army-as-of-April-2010-162087405)
Japan Junkie (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3862202)
I knowz Fun Fu! (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3936545)
Arroyo Reference Sheet 2010 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3976825)
Ubercharge'd Arroyo Icon (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Ubercharge-d-Arroyo-Icon-167655208?q=sort%3Atime+gallery%3Aarroyo-river&qo=0)
Drawliet and Arroyo icons! (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Combined-Icon-Arroyo-Drawly-168122118?q=1&qo=1)
Some Soul Eater reference I made in a sketch for someone (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4075335)
Arroyo head sprite change (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/arroyoheadprototype.png)
Flying Mask of Drawliet (http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9581/flyingmaskofdrawliet.png)
Some doodle of a servant of Drawliet (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0004.jpg)
She love's her Melons (sketch) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0010-1.jpg)
Wet behind the ears, eh? (colored) (http://fav.me/d2u6dlc)
Eriee Smile Icon (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2uiwt6)
What are Candus pt. 1 (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/#/d2ulux8)
Cruel vending machine (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4256403)
Some background design 1 (http://fav.me/d2vle14)
What are Candus Part 2 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4265845)
What are Candus part 3 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4308284)
The Bleu Riverie floating Animation (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4333172)
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Random eye doodles (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Eye-doodles-176813936?q=gallery%3AArroyo-River+sort%3Atime+in%3Ascraps&qo=0)
A slight Revision of "Brocken Spectre" (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0023.jpg)
Brocken Reference sheet (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4404982)
Now Broadcasting: My Love (sketch) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4431589)
BONK! Cans (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4462037)
Now Broadcasting My Love (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4496472)
Step-by-step Tierra sketch (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4539163)
Massive sketch dump the first! (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4513406/)
Pyro's Brain Slug Sprite (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4580672)
Icon batch: Arroyo and Tierra (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4606245)
arroyo sprite sheet as of (10/9/10) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sprites/arroyospritesheetasof10910.png)
Profile doodle (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0066.jpg)
Gaia avatar headshot for October 2010 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4627201)
Landscape quick sketch (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d317w3f)
Emotion Request 1 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4669807/)
Emotion Request 2 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4674424/)
Random Arroyo head practice (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0075.jpg)
Jamballon~ (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/#/d31nni3)
Here's a quick sketch of Arroyo's hair affected by Gravity (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d321zqk)
Rough Animation test of Arroyo sprite (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/#/d324m30)
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Tierra quick reference sketch (NSFW?) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0028.jpg)
Tierra Practice Page (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4815338/)
Citrine Practice Page (NSFW?) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4837112/)
Devyn Practice Page (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4875459/)
Failed What a Tail Page 1 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4876959/)
Aric Practice Page (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4891492/)
Tierra quick reference 2010 (NSFW) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4896172)
Arroyo Winter Icon 2010 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4904928)
Coffee mug template (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/#/d34letx)
Nikolas head sketches (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/art/Nikolas-headshot-sketches-190303961)
Cave Story Sprite: Arroyo (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/art/Cave-Story-Sprite-Arroyo-191179238)
(NSFW) Tierra sketch WIP (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5008662)
WIP Arroyo reference 2011 part 1 (NSFW?) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/Image1_edited-2.jpg)
WIP Arroyo reference 2011 part 2 (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/Image1.jpg)
WIP Arroyo reference part 3 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5114220)
Completed sketch of part 3 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5136033)
Arroyo reference 2011 (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/art/Arroyo-2011-Reference-195438453?q=gallery%3Adrawlylawly&qo=3)
Practice sketch 01 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5182597/)
WIP art trade sketch (NSFW?) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/Image1-6.jpg)
Practice sketch 2: Arroyo expressions (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5242171/)
Meditation (soft-shading) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5493467)
Headshot doodles (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5494552/)
More headshot doodles! (http://fav.me/d3igub6)
Arroyo and Tierra Icon Bundle (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5568401)
Tierra idle sketch (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6184312)
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Arroyo Shades Icon (failed) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6433545)
Desu Ecks Machina rough sketch (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/#/d49fnxb%5B/url)
Stylization doodles (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=scraps#/d49fmdg)
Mini Arroyo doodle (http://the-river-blues.tumblr.com/post/13194611404/need-to-work-on-those-legs-and-faces-more)
I fixed your links to remove the gaia online redirect, since that doesn't do much other than simply break things, in at least one case.
Incidentally, you might want to review the part of the rules that explains the format for thread titles... Just a hint...
Thanks for removing the redirect from gaia, it's too much of a pain to rename the URLs from scratch but eh, too lazy but I bet you heard that excuse a lot.
Also, I'll fix the topic title. : 3
it's a freaky mix of anime and cartoon line art.... like Hanah-Barberra crossed with Rumiko Takahashi kinda.
Arroyo is cute in all the pictures where she faces the camera. :januscat
Quote from: Lysander on March 17, 2009, 12:00:33 PM
Arroyo is cute in all the pictures where she faces the camera. :januscat
...But Arroyo is a guy. D : Your actually one of the very few people that said Arroyo is female. XD;
But hey, cuteness prevails all~
Your style shows potential, but is still a bit rough. Though It seems to me that the pics you've shown were done significantly apart in time from eachother and there is actually noticeable improvement. Keep it up!
I have to agree with Kipiru. You've got some good foundation stuff here and from the looks of it you've been improving with each picture. There's always room to expand though.
Not to sound like someone else around here, but consider studying some anatomy and use reference pictures when possible to get the most out of your drawings. I've started using reference photos a lot lately and it's really helped. I hope to eventually not have to use them, but until then any tool that helps will be used.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on March 17, 2009, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: Lysander on March 17, 2009, 12:00:33 PM
Arroyo is cute in all the pictures where she faces the camera. :januscat
...But Arroyo is a guy. D : Your actually one of the very few people that said Arroyo is female. XD;
But hey, cuteness prevails all~
*Fails...* Dang, I'm usually better about that sort of thing. Well Arroyo makes a cute guy then. :januscat
I best lurk more for tutorials for halpz. Thanks for the time commenting~ Usually the anatomy becomes much better over time, it's the coloring I'm worried about such as how I should shade the drawing and such.
Oh, did I forget to mention I make sprites (not as much as I did last year but eh...)
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3163/v3spriteretake.png)
Arroyo sprite v3, take two~ (http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3163/v3spriteretake.png)
100% custom. I'm not gonna work on any clothes yet until I fix up his body.
Edit:
Fixed your link. ;-]
-- llearch
the redirect for the sprites, highlighted in blue, doesn't appear to be working... not that it is necessary toview the sprites. just thought I'd give you a heads up.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on March 18, 2009, 06:30:12 PM
the redirect for the sprites, highlighted in blue, doesn't appear to be working... not that it is necessary toview the sprites. just thought I'd give you a heads up.
My apologizes, I fixed the link now, its hard to see the sprites seeing the link in the IMG tags made it a bit fuzzy. ^ ^;
There's an extra http:// in the sprite pic.
Also, I sent you a PM.
[EDIT] I meant http://, not html://
Muphry's law. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudere's_Law)
[Edit2] Fixed the broken link to Muphry's law.
Quote from: WhiteFox on March 20, 2009, 08:51:05 PM
There's an extra http:// in the sprite pic.
Also, I sent you a PM.
[EDIT] I meant http://, not html://
[urlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudere's_Law]Muphry's law.[/url]
*checks* no there isn't O-o?
EDIT: Ok I saw where it was, sorry ^ ^;
Nice work.
All your characters have a great sense of motion and energy to them, and your coloring is very clean (IE: no grey jaggies along the lines).
The arms look a bit long, most of the time. A persons wrist comes down to their crotch, and the elbow lines up with the lowest point of the rib cage.
There are some anatomy tweaks I could suggest, if you want to get right technical. Cartoony styles don't really need a lot of this, but it's still good to know.
(One 15 min diagram later)
(http://www.northernelectric.ca/~whitefox/images/diagram/trap+ytdiagram2.jpg)
Yeech, what a mess. Anyway.
(Edit: Revised and cleaned up the diagram. Caption still stands.)
1: There's a distance between the chin and collar bone of about half the overall height of the head.
2: (Blue lines) Trapezius muscles. Critical for drawing a shoulder line. Squared off shoulders that follow the collar bone look really two-dimensional. Also, under the arm, there are muscles that go from the arm pit down to the back. Those are important for...
3: The Y and T rule: Drawing overlapping muscles makes the character look more 3 dimensional. This is the Y and T rule, highlighted by the red lines.
You'll notice the importance of understanding where the pectoral muscles connect and overlap with the biceps, the muscle groups between the trapesius and the latissimus dorsi, and...
Uh...
What the devil? Where'd you get that mohawk? Alright, thats it! Shows over!
Anyway. I hope that wasn't too confusing.
The night at the Rave (sketch edition!) (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Night-at-the-Rave-sketch-117210946)
Sorry about that part on the top right hand corner, it's hard to scan from a hardcover sketch book ^ ^;
Woo! Somebody's having fun.
Nice expression. Only thing that stands out to me is that the pose of the arms looks kind of stiff, but otherwise the body language is very energetic.
I love the crowd, by the way.
No, really. I mean that.
Night at the Rave (colored!) (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Night-at-the-Rave-117842938)
Let me tell you, the lighting effects don't really do the picture any justice. X_X I'm somewhat proud how the glowsticks came out. I saved an extra copy of the picture not rave'd. : P
Anyways, just a typical night out at a rave for Tierra. Why did I choose Tierra? Only because her fun personality seemed to fit well with the scene. But thats what I get for listening to random songs by daft punk while drawing Tierra : P
Also, random cheesy action text is a go!
Tierra's Lovely Melons (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0001.jpg)
Click at your own risk if you want, I drew it because I was bored : 3
Arroyo's Business card (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Arroyo-Business-card-119295282)
Just a small graphics II project I did. It came out ok. : 3
Resonance! Arroyo and Gaia Arroyo (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Resonance-OC-and-Gaia-120579519)
This one took a while, inspired by an anime I am currently obsessed. Guess what anime it is and you get a cookie! : 3
let's see an obscure Anime set in the feudal era and modern times, wow that really narrows it down... is it inuyasha? that one where the kid gets trapped in the VR simulator of the fuedal era, or that other one withe the swords and everything.... as for the arts, it would be better if we actually had a point of reference. To me walking in on the art cold it looks like twins experiencing a mutual moment of trauma in differing locations.
the eyes, ears, hair style, and other features don't match up save for color alone so if it is the same person in two different timeliness one couldn't tell unless they were familiar with the character. I do like the colors though.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on April 26, 2009, 05:54:08 PM
This one took a while, inspired by an anime I am currently obsessed. Guess what anime it is and you get a cookie! : 3
Soul Eater? Seeing as how you said as much in the DA post. There isn't really much in the image that suggests it's inspired by a particular source.
The two characters are fairly distinct in
design, but in the pic they look very, very similar. I had to take a minute or two to pick out the differences. If they're "alternate" versions of the same character (two different Arroyos) the similarity is understandable, but they still look almost identical.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on April 26, 2009, 06:26:13 PM
let's see an obscure Anime set in the feudal era and modern times, wow that really narrows it down... is it inuyasha? that one where the kid gets trapped in the VR simulator of the fuedal era, or that other one withe the swords and everything.... as for the arts, it would be better if we actually had a point of reference. To me walking in on the art cold it looks like twins experiencing a mutual moment of trauma in differing locations.
the eyes, ears, hair style, and other features don't match up save for color alone so if it is the same person in two different timeliness one couldn't tell unless they were familiar with the character. I do like the colors though.
No it's not Inyusaha, I hate Inyuasha
The left is my Original Character, Arroyo Milori and the right is my Gaia online avatar, who is somewhat similar looking to Arroyo but isn't completely. The clothes were different only to show it was a different person on each side along with features.
EDIT: Oh shoot I shouldn't have put the answer in my DA artist's post. DX In a way, I made them look similar in certain features to show that they are kind of the same. I might use my Gaia Online avatar as a Virtual image of arroyo whenever he plays an MMO of some sort in my comics (if I get around to writing the script : P )
A Fighter's Grace (Sketch) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0020.jpg)
I'm not fond of how her foot came out and I couldn't fix it, due to the fact the paper started to be punctured by my mechanical pencil. :<
I'm debating wether or not to give it the ink then color job or attempt to make this into a painting on photoshop.
EDIT: I edited the picture a bit slightly.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on May 03, 2009, 02:32:38 PM
I'm not fond of how her foot came out and I couldn't fix it, due to the fact the paper started to be punctured by my mechanical pencil. :<
Feet can be a real pain. I'd make suggestions on how to fix them, but... well, they're not in the pic.
Ripping the paper brings up a few questions, tho. What kind of paper are you using? How hard are the leads (HB, 2B, etc)? How hard do you press your pencil?
When I bought my sketchbook, it did not list what kind of paper it had and I'm not sure how hard the lead is. However I do press hard on the paper sometimes without noticing.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on May 05, 2009, 07:09:46 PM
When I bought my sketchbook, it did not list what kind of paper it had and I'm not sure how hard the lead is. However I do press hard on the paper sometimes without noticing.
I don't know if this is anything you're worried about, but it's all good to know so I thought I'd mention it.
When drawing something that is going to be inked, there are a few things that help. Hard leads, for very very light lines that don't smudge, and very smooth paper help a lot.
Drawing with pencil requires little to no pressure whatsoever. If you're putting grooves in the paper at all, you're pressing harder then you need to. Holding the pencil lightly will keep your lines loose and fluid. Also, the less pressure you use the easier the lines are to erase.
A sample sheet of my V3 sprites (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/samplesheet09.png)
From top to bottom: Arroyo Milori, Tierra, Citrine Stone.
I haven't sprited as much as I used to but eh. I just do it for fun...and a forum game I like to call Talk in Sprite Comics >w>
A Fighter's Grace (colored!) (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/A-Fighter-s-Grace-122087778)
Yay~ I actually colored it. I thought it would be nice to try something different. Unsure about the background though...
Muscle practice sketch-Arroyo (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Arroyo-boredom-sketch-122748113)
Just a practice sketch I did, mostly for muscles in the arms. Yes Arroyo isn't suppose to be very muscular so I tried to give him scrawny arms. : 3
Expect another picture soon.
Hmm, you can get away with that look for a skinny guy, but you will eventually have to draw muscles exceeding your own :mowwink My suggestion is, try drawing bodybuilder boddies- with more or less detail, just to get the feeling of the flow of human muscles and build on that afterwards(that's how I learned).
Eye of the storm weapon sketch (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Eye-of-the-storm-sword-final-123469702)
Bust sketch dump I (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Bust-sketch-dump-I-123469451)
Practice sketches are a go!
Yet another sprite sample sheet (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/samplesheet09-1.png)
I reamped some of my sprites horray~ I even gotten around to spriting Nico (AKA Nole but I decied to call him Nico now)
Some...kind of practice sketch of Arroyo I guess... (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0106.jpg)
I wasn't really sure what I was trying to do with this picture but I had to draw something and well...here it is... funny how a bored mind can influence your pictures eh?
Nice sprites! The Arroyo and Tierra sprites look cute. :3 And the Arroyo sketch has a scary grin.
Art trades and Requests are now open due to Summer time. Requests tend to be in sketch form while Art trades are done in color, if requested in color. Just PM me or contact me through any messenger if anyone is interested : 3
Tierra's Delicious Melons (Remade and colored) (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Tierra-s-Delicious-Melons-125826792)
I'm a bit disappointed in this one for some odd reason...maybe because I'm still not used to coloring my work or that I'm too harsh on myself...
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on June 13, 2009, 07:39:45 PM
I'm a bit disappointed in this one for some odd reason...maybe because I'm still not used to coloring my work or that I'm too harsh on myself...
I'd go with the second- the coloring is good! Nice picture altogether!
Arroyo's 2009 ref. sheet (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Arroyo-Milori-Ref-Sheet-09-126188704)
So I actually got around to making another ref. sheet of Arroyo. It's a bit better than the last one, which is good but it doesn't display enough information but I sized it down to the important details. So basically your getting half the information of Arroyo from this but if you ask I might give you all of it.
I do love his expression, I wanted to make his eyes look kind of mello'd out and make it look like hes daydreaming, in which I kind of succeed I guess.
I believe it has been three years since I first created Arroyo and tweaked his information here and there (And sometimes his looks!) and I'm still proud of how this character came out and glad to call him my fursona. X3
Gaia Headshot doodle (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Gaia-headshot-6-09-127195630)
Kind of bored and I wanted to draw something slightly different so here it is. I even practiced a bit with my pencil shading on this as well. It came out kind of good ('I'm not sure about the hat though... What took the longest was the eyes and the muzzle...but hey it's just practice so might as well experiment a bit.
Your link is broken. :S
I managed to go to your gallery and view the picture anyway though.
Only beef I have with this one is that the muzzle feels off. The majority of the face is level, and then the muzzle just shoots down. Also, the face seems to be at a 3/4 turn but there's no line showing where the muzzle juts out from the center of the face, so it all looks like it's merged. The shading you've done helps with this quite a bit, but might not be enough in this case.
Either way, it's a cute picture and it's good that you're doing different things. Try as much as you can and see what works. This looks like a great practice piece. :3
The link is fixed now. : 3
The Wittle Matyrian (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/The-Wittle-Matyrian-128139779)
It's one of those "Not my best work but it will do" kind of pictures. I'm probably being harsh to myself again. D : Though I am happy with the background : >
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on July 03, 2009, 11:36:39 AMThough I am happy with the background : >
You should be, too. It looks good.
The shading on the building in the foreground could stand a little more definition, tho. A bit of ambient shadow below the ledge might do it.
Fixed the shading in the latest picture. Hopefully everyone can see Devyn clearly now. : 3
Devyn Sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0010.jpg)
This one I took a bit more time on just to try different ways of drawing certain parts of him (arms, scythe and snout to be exact) but I'm unsure if I should go and color it...
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on July 18, 2009, 03:01:18 PM
Devyn Sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0010.jpg)
This one I took a bit more time on just to try different ways of drawing certain parts of him (arms, scythe and snout to be exact) but I'm unsure if I should go and color it...
Color it :mowwink
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on July 18, 2009, 03:01:18 PM
I'm unsure if I should go and color it...
Yes, do it, do it...
Moonlit Patrol (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Moonlit-Patrol-130733340)
Something feels a bit off about this picture, can't put my finger on it. Maybe I'm just expecting too much out of myself again. At least it came out decent. C :
Now that this picture is out of the way, time to open up requests! Requests tend to be just plain sketches (which IMO look better than my digital counterparts) and art trades get the digital remakes. Though I'm going have to ask for very good references from the people whom will request. : 3
Very sharp.
The shading kind of makes him drop into the background, though.
Double the update! DOUBLE THE FUN! 83
Arroyo Milori practice sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0018.jpg)
The pose for this came out great, and I wanted to draw him in a different outfit other than the usual buttoned up shirt. Though I wish that the facial expression was a bit better...or didn't look so weird.
Drawliet Law practice sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0019.jpg)
Yup, one of these days I will draw something human. To be honest i absolutely dread drawing humans. I always have a good design for a human (or something that looks human) in my head but then I actually start to draw it, I start to cry on how much it doesn't look a thing like what I want it to look like. I was close on Drawliet, Perhaps a wilder look will fit his personality, and his abilities.
BUt something feels seriously wrong with this picture, I know it has to do with the face, I just can't seem to find it. This always happens when I draw humans. DX
If I might suggest...
(15 Sec diagram)
(http://www.northernelectric.ca/~whitefox/images/alterations/arroalter.jpg)
Something to consider: The jaw and the cheekbone. When facing straight on, the corner of the jaw determines the shape of the face, and that lines up with the mouth in terms of height (which is how you've drawn it here). However, when the head is turned slightly the shape of the face is determined by the cheekbone, which is much higher up. (On my alteration here, the corner of the chin comes up to the same height of the cheek bone because of the viewing angle and the tilt of the head)
The center of the chin, mouth, and nose all line up. It's pretty common in anime to push the mouth away from the edge of the face. Something to consider, though, is that even if the center of the chin lines up with the center of the face, it still has some width. That means that the corner of the chin won't line up with the centerline of the face if the head is turned.
Also: when the head is turned, usually the neck lines up with the back of the head.
And let me add: That is a damn fine looking nose. Nostrils are f'ckin' hard. Well done.
Quote from: WhiteFox on July 29, 2009, 07:35:14 PM
If I might suggest...
(15 Sec diagram)
(http://www.northernelectric.ca/~whitefox/images/alterations/arroalter.jpg)
Something to consider: The jaw and the cheekbone. When facing straight on, the corner of the jaw determines the shape of the face, and that lines up with the mouth in terms of height (which is how you've drawn it here). However, when the head is turned slightly the shape of the face is determined by the cheekbone, which is much higher up. (On my alteration here, the corner of the chin comes up to the same height of the cheek bone because of the viewing angle and the tilt of the head)
The center of the chin, mouth, and nose all line up. It's pretty common in anime to push the mouth away from the edge of the face. Something to consider, though, is that even if the center of the chin lines up with the center of the face, it still has some width. That means that the corner of the chin won't line up with the centerline of the face if the head is turned.
Also: when the head is turned, usually the neck lines up with the back of the head.
And let me add: That is a damn fine looking nose. Nostrils are f'ckin' hard. Well done.
Everything is noted and I kind of fixed the drawing. Though I am not going to bother to rescan it. : <
Also requests are still open and art trades, incase anyone missed the memo.
Down by the River (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Down-by-the-River-132614684)
Just trying to get some practice done, I know the legs look a bit weird and the water doesn't look all that great, but I'm just merely practicing backgrounds, different kinds of tones, and poses. :3
What Tierra wants (Sketch/ slightly NSFW) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0031.jpg)
I recommend you don't look too hard to see why it's slightly NSFW, oh aren't I a silly lwittle lion~
And yes, I am planning on coloring this soon.
"Plz is not a word," I like that. :januscat
Can't wait to see it colored- and yes, I saw why it's almost NSFW. Dig in harder with the eraser next time :mowwink
Quote from: Kipiru on August 14, 2009, 03:20:13 PM
Can't wait to see it colored- and yes, I saw why it's almost NSFW. Dig in harder with the eraser next time :mowwink
That was done on purpose, and surprisingly, most people didn't see it quickly at first until I warned them not to look too hard. >:3
Sneaky Arroyo Icon (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Sneaky-Arroyo-Icon-133378584)
Just some practice I did for digital coloring before I tackle any bigger pictures. :3 If anyone wants an icon like this, just ask.
Steampunkish Arroyo (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Steampunkish-Arroyo-134709909)
Eh, I wanted to do a quick pencil shading sketch, so I did. : 3 I'm also trying to mess around with clothing designs too. I might do Citrine next.
oooooooooo. What's he holding in his hand? o.O looks.. raven-ish
Quote from: wuffnpuff on August 25, 2009, 02:25:04 PM
oooooooooo. What's he holding in his hand? o.O looks.. raven-ish
It's water. : 3
Fighterish Citrine (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Fighterish-Citrine-135074141)
I told ya I would draw her next~ Who's next on the list~
Hmm...nice. Especially like the 'rough' style of drawing you've done for it.
Buying beats (sketch) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0033.jpg)
This I'm definatly coloring, the setting I had fun drawing. : 3 I had problems with the hands then my mind went boom! : 3
Hey, that's pretty cute. Very nice work with that interesting angle. The little note adds a nice touch. :januscat
Arroyo V4 sprite prototype (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5093/arroyov4.png)
A heavy WIP, right now I'm trying to get the anatomy right (and possibly the shading.
So far so good. Nice little details with the toes. I especially like the smaller of the sprites. :januscat
Quote from: Lysander on September 03, 2009, 11:30:28 AM
So far so good. Nice little details with the toes. I especially like the smaller of the sprites. :januscat
The smaller sprite is actually old, the tall one is actually the newer one. : 3
Really? It's still pretty good. As far as I'm concerned it still takes a good bit of talent to even make sprites like that. Keep up the good work, eh?
Here's a small preview of the picture so far, I'll probably get it done tomorrow. : 3
Buying Beats Inking (http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3937/nicowip.png)
Also, I'm free for sketch requests tomorrow as well. but I'm limiting to three spots, no more.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on September 06, 2009, 10:24:03 PM
Here's a small preview of the picture so far, I'll probably get it done tomorrow. : 3
Buying Beats Inking (http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3937/nicowip.png)
Very nice! Developement is evident- very clear lines and great inking. I especially like the hair.
U mad? (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Lol-U-Mad-136398822)
Something different than the usual, I'm thinking about using an inking tone to Enhance my shading a bit.
Raveish Tierra (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Raveish-Tierra-137067509)
O hay everyone, it's everyone's favorite Rapistdog : D
Yeegh, been a bit busy. But I like the rough style-adds texture, in my opinion.
Scientistish Aric (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Scientistish-Aric-137901880)
Oh shi- I actually drew a human. Ah well, its not bad I guess, but its probably a heavy WIP in design.
DA and FA account on the first page. : 3
Urbanish Devyn (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Urbanish-Devyn-138407474)
I absolutely like drawing shy expressions on Devyn, along with clothing that looks way too big on him. <3
The hell am I going to make next? Sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0035.jpg)
Aric is a mechanic, he just loves building awesome weapons, gundams/robots, and anything out of metal.
Amused Tierra sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0036.jpg)
Another simple sketch, I really should work on my digital artz andmycomic
and yes I was going for this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yZT8uElQCk)
...What did you say?! (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/What-did-you-say-139875414)
Just working on action linez and such. I hope I didn't make Citrine too muscular in this one.
When the arm lifts, the deltoid usually lifts as well. Also, the wrist should be half as thick as the elbow at that angle.
Quote from: WhiteFox on October 11, 2009, 05:31:24 PM
When the arm lifts, the deltoid usually lifts as well. Also, the wrist should be half as thick as the elbow at that angle.
Quickly noted and fixed (sort of...Can't really judge D : )) Thank you for the comment also : 3
I've been reading all along, I just haven't found much to comment on. I kinda feel bad about this, since I was in the same situation not that long ago.
Regular practice is probably the fastest route to improvement, so I guess all these sketches are a good sign. It's noticeable that you're experimenting and pushing things: perspective, expression, anatomy, etc.
On the other hand the sketches end up unremarkable, compared to each other, so it's hard to come up with remarks. Most of the pics feel like quick sketches, featuring a single character and a bit of setting.
When I make comments, I try to find both supportive things to say (IE: What the artist did well, or things I like about the piece), and constructive things (IE: Suggestions for improvement, or things that bug me about the work). It's hard to find positive things without repeating the same comments for each pic, and just posting constructive comments can come across harsh criticism.
I might suggest spending more time working on the pics you post if you want more comments. Develop them a little more: inking and coloring are good, but even taking more time to clean up the pencils would help.
So, hey, keep it up and try not to get disheartened. With effort, improvement is only a matter of time.
Comments are always welcome, but that's all I pretty much need, good or bad (but mostly helpful ones : 3 )
ZEN creative (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/ZEN-creative-140201853)
I waz bored in school, go figure. : L
Tierra's Commericial parody (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Tierra-s-commerical-parody-141346159)
With this picture, I also gain a new Signature~ Yay~
What's a commerical? Is that anything like a commercial? ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 24, 2009, 07:29:58 PM
What's a commerical? Is that anything like a commercial? ;-]
What typo? : >
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on October 24, 2009, 07:13:14 PM
Tierra's Commericial parody (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Tierra-s-commerical-parody-141346159)
... Need I answer that? *smirk*
Modernish Arroyo Icon (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Modernish-Arroyo-Icon-141371212)
New icon as well I canz use ; 3
Cute.
You could put a little light on the cheekbone. It'd give the face more definition.
For the commercial parody, some subtle shading might help add depth to her face...
on a different note, very cute :3
Gastly Thriller Sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0041.jpg)
Inspired by the Halloween update for Team Fortress 2. : 3 Expect it colored tomorrow.
Gibus Thriller (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Gibus-Thriller-142341981)
Happy Bleated Halloween. Too bad this picture didn't come out well : <
I've been trying to shift my attention to my comic, but so far I have been distracted AS USUAL. Art might be a bit late but for now, Here's a Tierrable amount of Doodles (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/A-Tierraizing-page-of-Doodles-143105437)
Clownish Drawliet (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Clownish-Drawliet-143847646)
Moar Hoomanz.
EDIT: Link fixed
Oooh, been awhile since I got a chance to look at your art!
Heheh, though I'll be honest, even if it's excellently drawn, that last one scares me a little.
Comfort Zone Sketch (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0145.jpg)
Debating whether or not to ink and color this picture or not...Also the feet might need to be a bit bigger.
Edit:
Fixed your link. -- llearch
*pokes* it's comin' up as a broken link for me >:
Need to not use "" when making a [] link. Link fixed. HTH, HAND.
Sorry about that, I need to pay attention when I use URLs on different forums. ^ ^;
But the link is all fixed now. : 3
No problem. ;-]
Out of interest, which type of forum allows you to use html in your posts? I'd have thought that that was hugely open to abuse...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 21, 2009, 10:57:30 AM
Out of interest, which type of forum allows you to use html in your posts? I'd have thought that that was hugely open to abuse...
DA uses HTML markup in comment posts. I'm pretty sure they only support a limited subset rather than directly running any old tat the user types, but that's the syntax they're using.
Awesome. I love the pose.
The feet do look a bit small to me. The foot is as long as the head is tall.
The thing that stands out, to me, is that the body looks very realistic, but the face is very stylized. They're both well drawn, but they don't seem to match each other.
Upon closer inspection of the picture, I realized I accidently moved the picture a bit while scanning it, so the face got a bit messed up.
Its fixed now so no worries. : 3
Sorry I haven't updated in a while, been busy with a small holiday project I decided to make. Just some paper ornaments I'm making and going to give out to some people. C :
Here's what i have done so far. (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/ornamentcollection1.jpg)
Another Citrine Sketch (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3129600)
There's something about her anatomy that's fun to draw : 3
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on December 12, 2009, 12:54:37 AM
There's something about her anatomy that's fun to draw : 3
I'm reluctant to suggest what >:3
Quote from: Kipiru on December 12, 2009, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on December 12, 2009, 12:54:37 AM
There's something about her anatomy that's fun to draw : 3
I'm reluctant to suggest what >:3
Bad, Kip, BADDDDDD! ...well thats
half the reason. : P
Quote from: Kipiru on December 12, 2009, 11:09:31 AM
I'm reluctant to suggest what >:3
I can't think why, everyone else is morbidly explicit about it. ;-]
(not that I'm complaining, mind...)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 13, 2009, 06:12:20 AM
Quote from: Kipiru on December 12, 2009, 11:09:31 AM
I'm reluctant to suggest what >:3
I can't think why, everyone else is morbidly explicit about it. ;-]
(not that I'm complaining, mind...)
i no rite?
Everyone at school tends to think I'm perverted just because of my female characters bewbs. D :
Having "bewbs" on female characters doesn't make you perverted.
And it's not like Citrine's are out of proportion for her build...
Arroyo Bored Icon (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3159894)
Another icon, I just made one two months ago I believe, but I think this one looks nice. : 3
expect art dumps in the near future, just to warn ya~
Project Ornament Tierra (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3168583)
Project Ornament Arroyo (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3170513)
2 down, a lot more to go. X_X;
I feel bad for not finishing Project Ornament before Christmas but ah well, I'll finish them before the year is up for sure (or atleast two more of them...)
ANywii, I got a DSi for Christmas and now I started to become distracted by a program on it called Flipnote and well, this is what I made with it. : 3
FlipNote: Arroyo and the Cardboard box (http://flipnote.hatena.com/5A6290C0CE1C38F0@DSi/movie/1C38F0_0961083478C8C_009?in=user)
FlipNote: Arroyo Icon (http://flipnote.hatena.com/5A6290C0CE1C38F0@DSi/movie/1C38F0_0961AF05B4EC4_003?in=user)
FlipNote: Candus in a Bag (http://flipnote.hatena.com/5A6290C0CE1C38F0@DSi/movie/1C38F0_09622389B0BCE_001?in=user)
hehehe.
Love the box. But then, I would, wouldn't I? ;-]
I haven't been drawing a lot lately, so here's two memes and some giftart for a friend of mine. : 3
Art Summary Meme 2009 (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Art-summary-2009-148470119)
Giftsketch: Peria (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Giftsketch-Peria-148950559)
Improvement Meme (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Improvement-Meme-2006-2009-149373257)
The anatomy on Peria's arm looks a little weak. Forearms, like calves, have most of the muscle on the upper half. The wrist is about half as thick, and about 2/3rds as wide, as the thickest part of the arm.
The square lower lip looks... kinda odd. That might just be your style, tho. The expression as a whole is awesome. Well, the expression is unamused, but it's an awesome unamused.
An observation on the meme images; the line work has really sharpened up over time, and the style has certainly gelled. I'll agree that the anatomy has improved significantly, too.
I noticed the comment about possibly starting a comic. Honestly, I think you could do a pretty good job on one if you did; your characters express well, which means they can act. I might suggest getting comfortable with drawing backgrounds of some sort, even minimal ones. And drawing things in panels. That took me a little while to get used to.
I think people both over and underestimate the amount of work needed to plan a comic. story outlines, character sheets and turnarounds are a good idea, but I don't understand why one would have to write out 50 pages on the technology, or magic, of a setting, or write
20 thousand years of
detailed history. But then, that's not the part of a story I find interesting.
QuoteThat's the important part at least I started somewhere.
Quoted for truth. Nobody gets anywhere if they don't start somewhere.
Quote from: WhiteFox on January 10, 2010, 05:01:53 PM
The anatomy on Peria's arm looks a little weak. Forearms, like calves, have most of the muscle on the upper half. The wrist is about half as thick, and about 2/3rds as wide, as the thickest part of the arm.
The square lower lip looks... kinda odd. That might just be your style, tho. The expression as a whole is awesome. Well, the expression is unamused, but it's an awesome unamused.
An observation on the meme images; the line work has really sharpened up over time, and the style has certainly gelled. I'll agree that the anatomy has improved significantly, too.
I noticed the comment about possibly starting a comic. Honestly, I think you could do a pretty good job on one if you did; your characters express well, which means they can act. I might suggest getting comfortable with drawing backgrounds of some sort, even minimal ones. And drawing things in panels. That took me a little while to get used to.
I think people both over and underestimate the amount of work needed to plan a comic. story outlines, character sheets and turnarounds are a good idea, but I don't understand why one would have to write out 50 pages on the technology, or magic, of a setting, or write 20 thousand years of detailed history. But then, that's not the part of a story I find interesting.
QuoteThat's the important part at least I started somewhere.
Quoted for truth. Nobody gets anywhere if they don't start somewhere.
It's going to be a while before I can actually get around drawing a comic page, I usually constantly revise the script just to get it justtttt right. : 3 I have ideas on how to explain the setting of the comic, and I also know how to present them in the comic.
I also noticed that my artwork over time starts to show a bit of my character's personality a bit (or at least the one's of Citrine.) I've been swamped with homework and projects for final's week. Things are cutting close and I barely have time to do any art work. ^ ^;
Wading in the Water (sketch) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0150.jpg)
I wanted to do this sketch for a while, but then I kind of slacked off and just practiced a bit. This is also the first time I drew Arroyo with his sword. : 3
Wading in the Water(Final) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3280763)
TWO DAYS LATER I FINISH IT! : DDDD
THAT ARROYO IS A SCOUT! (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3322709)
Practice with SAIPaintTool~ Weee~
Arroyo Sprite Progress (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/The-Sprites-of-Arroyo-152835045)
Taking a Stroll~ (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Just-taking-a-stroll-154855447)
Character Trait Meme (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Character-Trait-Meme-154874934)
I forgot to update mah topic, but that means that there's more stuff to look at with this update. : D
A Moment of Prayer (Sketch) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0157.jpg)
A little sketch I was workin' on. I'll probably color it soon.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on February 27, 2010, 11:46:30 AM
A Moment of Prayer (Sketch) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0157.jpg)
A little sketch I was workin' on. I'll probably color it soon.
Nice. Those things on her ears don't look comfortable, though.
Cute expression. She looks determined about something. >:3 {Meditation FTW!)
The muscles on the shoulder and biceps look a bit simplified. I agree with Turn on the earrings, too. But then, maybe they're supposed to be uncomfortable.
Art trade with Kikyo (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3512887)
I got bored so I got someone to do an art trade with me : B
Nice quote. :)
I really like pencil drawings, actually. They just never seem to scan well...
Bonk'd! (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Bonk-d-Scout-Arroyo-156377097)
I needed a new icon for Steam : B
Daily Prayer (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3590405)
I FEEL BAD! I HAVEN'T DONE MUCH DRAWING THIS MONTH BECAUSE OF SCHOOL. D :
Its a bit messy, but it came out great!
Closeup Arroyo Doodle (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3617859)
Expect more art sometime this week. :3
VERY close up... o.o
I love what you did with the eyes there.
UPDATE! I got a Ustream account. A link to my Ustream is on the first page.
Here's a video already on there (http://www.livestream.com/DrawlyLawly?t=259842)
I WANT IT! (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3621443)
Hello Devyn, how are you? : 3
Bonk'd Icon for Nurren (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3650187)
A request from a friend, and it came out gewd : 3
Quick Bust of Drawliet (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3689758)
Its jsut a quick sketch, don't take it too srsly : B
Sorry i haven't been updating lately, it's been a busy month for me. @_@ But that doesn't mean I haven't been making time for artz.
DannyG Pyro BONK'D icon (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3725913)
Derrick Sniper BONK'D Icon (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3760044)
I also got pictures of random 40k stuff.
YOU SHALL NOT PASS! (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3765174)
My Necron Army (as of April 2010) (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Necron-Army-as-of-April-2010-162087405)
:3~~
NIce army, although it's not exactly easy to see the quality of the painting in the small image.
Japan Junkie (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3862202)
One of those pictures that look good as a sketch but then turn out awful as a digital remake </3
I knowz Fun Fu! (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3936545)
Arroyo Reference Sheet 2010 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3976825)
Yes i know there's a typo in the reference sheet, bite me : E
Been busy and I forgot to update this topic. Forgive me. ^ ^;
Ubercharge'd Arroyo Icon (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Ubercharge-d-Arroyo-Icon-167655208?q=sort%3Atime+gallery%3Aarroyo-river&qo=0)
Drawliet and Arroyo icons! (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Combined-Icon-Arroyo-Drawly-168122118?q=1&qo=1)
Some Soul Eater reference I made in a sketch for someone (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4075335)
Arroyo head sprite change (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/arroyoheadprototype.png)
Flying Mask of Drawliet (http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9581/flyingmaskofdrawliet.png) *this ones color I'm still working on*
Some sprites and artz. :3
Some doodle of a servant of Drawliet (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0004.jpg)
She love's her Melons (sketch) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0010-1.jpg)
Wet behind the ears, eh? (colored) (http://fav.me/d2u6dlc)
Eriee Smile Icon (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2uiwt6)
More stuff! Yay~ Don't forget to comment~
The eerie smile looks kinda like he's possessed by a spirit that can't smile well (or hide well...). I liked the "wet behind the ears" one though.
Quote from: Inumo on July 21, 2010, 11:46:51 PM
The eerie smile looks kinda like he's possessed by a spirit that can't smile well (or hide well...). I liked the "wet behind the ears" one though.
I'm running on empty idea-wise for icons. DX Atleast the other picture makes a nice signature~
What are Candus pt. 1 (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/#/d2ulux8)
a little writing I did, not my strong point but it's to explain the appearance of a Candus (those things i draw with the pointy ears and hte cross on their noses and th- awww you know what I mean :3 )
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on July 21, 2010, 08:26:47 PM
Some doodle of a servant of Drawliet (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0004.jpg)
She love's her Melons (sketch) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0010-1.jpg)
Wet behind the ears, eh? (colored) (http://fav.me/d2u6dlc)
Eriee Smile Icon (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2uiwt6)
More stuff! Yay~ Don't forget to comment~
I do like that 'wet behind the ears' pic! (it also works well in your siggy, by the way). With the wet hair though, I think it might look more 'wet' if you have it flattened more, and make the shiny highlights long, thin lines, instead of having them wave up and down. The colours look great together though, and I love the unimpressed expression.
Cruel vending machine (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4256403)
Yeah I got nothing witty to say here :3
*Giggle* Funny! :P
Some background design 1 (http://fav.me/d2vle14)
Just doodled it. And yes it is a remade design from Devyn's shirt from the previous picture : P
EDIT:
as a little treat, I killed my hands finshing up Part 2 of What are Candus (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4265845)
What are Candus part 3 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4308284)
That's all I got! I can always go back and add information later, ideas change over time and such.
Also! I'm holding a contest :3 (http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1633067/)
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Gaia/bleurivireairshipanimation.gif)
The Bleu Riverie floating Animation (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4333172)
A neat little airship I made for something on Gaia. Just take off the balloon part and it can probably make due for a reference for that boat i use in the Steam and Steel RP here : DDD
Though I might need to go into detail what is on/in the boat XD;
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Gaia/bleurivireairshipanimationv.gif)
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Gaia/bleurivireairshipanimationv.gif
Tweaked the animation+sprites, I won't post the sprite sheet cause I really don't feel like it. This animation has replaced the old one on Deviantart. :3
That's a cute little animation. I like it.
Quote from: Alteisentier on August 27, 2010, 09:35:41 AM
That's a cute little animation. I like it.
I still need to animate the wheel to rotate without it going all fuzzy on me in photoshop which means I might have to search for that sprite rotating program.
Random eye doodles (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/art/Eye-doodles-176813936?q=gallery%3AArroyo-River+sort%3Atime+in%3Ascraps&qo=0)
I got bored, happens a lot : L
Also, A slight Revision of "Brocken Spectre" (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0023.jpg)
Of course I will try to make it look much neater when inking it.
Brocken Reference sheet (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4404982)
Sword reference sheet. Not very pretty but it does the trick. :3
Also new FA account! Its on the First post!
Is it intentionally spelled "Brocken," or should it be "Broken?"
Quote from: WhiteFox on September 05, 2010, 10:39:03 PM
Is it intentionally spelled "Brocken," or should it be "Broken?"
It isn't mispelt. Though Prototype might coin the term "Broken Spectre" for a little bit of humor :3c
Now Broadcasting: My Love (sketch) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4431589)
Trying to think big, I'm still working on the sketch of this, my sketchbook is too small ;~;
Also that picture from CCC for Dannysaysnoo :3 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4424089/)
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1284334137.arroyo_bonkcans.png)
BONK! Cans (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4462037)
Been in a spriting mood lately, I'll try to get out of it.
Also:
Arroyo's Raging Mana gauge (NSFW) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4434756)
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/261/7/0/now_broadcasting_my_love_by_arroyo_river-d2z0d1b.jpg)
Now Broadcasting My Love (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4496472)
Yay~ It's finally colored and junk.
Reminds me of the Miku Hatsune song Love is War...
Quote from: Inumo on September 20, 2010, 06:58:16 PM
Reminds me of the Miku Hatsune song Love is War...
I guess it's safe to say I got the idea from that song. : D
"I sound my barbaric yawp over the rooftops of the world."
— Walt Whitman
The perspective on the chain/post doesn't line up with the background. The angle of the bull horn doesn't match itself, either.
I like the bold shadows; they add impact. I like the pose, too. It really looks like she's putting her weight into it. It compliments the facial expression well.
The arm holding the bullhorn seems kind of stiff. Lifting the elbow would give it more tension.
Quote from: WhiteFox on September 22, 2010, 10:05:31 PM
"I sound my barbaric yawp over the rooftops of the world."
— Walt Whitman
The perspective on the chain/post doesn't line up with the background. The angle of the bull horn doesn't match itself, either.
I like the bold shadows; they add impact. I like the pose, too. It really looks like she's putting her weight into it. It compliments the facial expression well.
The arm holding the bullhorn seems kind of stiff. Lifting the elbow would give it more tension.
It's a definite idea will revisit someday. I'll keep this in mind for next time : D
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(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1285556894.arroyo_drawingoftierra.jpg)
Step-by-step Tierra sketch (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4539163)
Cause I thought that showing the steps I take drawing my characters might help me understand where I went wrong anatomy-wise.
And a Massive sketch dump! (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4513406/)
I can't really comment on the proportions... cartoony figures are kind of arbitrary that way.
The hips and torso seem to be laid out using 2-dimensional shapes; adding a shape for the ribcage and pelvis would help give definition to the body, and make it easier to draw the figure from other angles and in other poses.
I do have one suggestion, but it's not a pleasant prospect. Studying real human anatomy, particularly the bones and muscles, would make a huge difference. I'm sure there are ways to tweak the simplified shapes in the first step for more lifelike results, but spheres and cylinders will only go so far.
I could redline the pic, if you like.
I find sketch dumps neat... it's fun to see experimental stuff.
Quote from: WhiteFox on September 29, 2010, 03:04:56 AM
I can't really comment on the proportions... cartoony figures are kind of arbitrary that way.
The hips and torso seem to be laid out using 2-dimensional shapes; adding a shape for the ribcage and pelvis would help give definition to the body, and make it easier to draw the figure from other angles and in other poses.
I do have one suggestion, but it's not a pleasant prospect. Studying real human anatomy, particularly the bones and muscles, would make a huge difference. I'm sure there are ways to tweak the simplified shapes in the first step for more lifelike results, but spheres and cylinders will only go so far.
I could redline the pic, if you like.
I find sketch dumps neat... it's fun to see experimental stuff.
there's no stopping ya : D
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on September 29, 2010, 03:28:39 PM
there's no stopping ya : D
Well, I never do something like this without getting permission first.
...
I R UNSTOPPABLE!
Ahem.I'm going to go kinda in-depth here. I figured that I might as well give you everything I got, and you could take as long as you like to go over it. I did, however, keep the focus on places where the anatomy affects the actual appearance of the figure.
Also... let me note that I'm not a professional at this. I might be wrong in a few places.
Bones:
(http://www.whitefoxart.com/artwork/redline/tierra_redline.png) |
(A) Skulls are fun to draw.
(B) The bones of the elbow make a bump when bent, and a dimple when straightened.
(C) The lower end of the ribcage makes the torso curve outward slightly.
(D) The upper edge of the pelvis makes a bump at the hip. (Or a dimple, if the person has reeeely developed oblique muscles.)
(E) The socket of he femur is level with the inseam. ("inseam" being my polite term for groin). Good to know when posing the leg in different ways.
(F) The end of the collar bone makes a dimple or a bump, depending on the pose of the arm and the muscle build of the figure. |
Muscles:
(http://www.whitefoxart.com/artwork/redline/tierra_bluline.png) |
(1) The pectoral muscles extend from the centre of the ribcage and collar bone, and all in to the armpit.
(1.a) Deltoids: At a certain point on the collarbone, the muscles don't stop at the armpit, and continue on down the arm: that point lies up with the outside of the sternomastoid (neck) muscle. Sorta. Mostly. I think.
(The little diagram there was drawn in one line: across, down, then zigzags for the muscle. I scribble one of those in the margins whenever I'm having a hard time drawing a shoulder).
(2) Abdominal muscles extend from the chest down to the inseam. These make a crease along the belly.
(3) Obliques: Between the bottom of the ribcage and the top of the hip, these bulge out a bit from the side.
(4) Brachioradials: Most of the muscle mass of the forearm is on the upper half, but you already knew that. The two muscles form a crease called the ulnar trench. It'll change position/direction depending on how the arm is twisted. (...Aaaand I just noticed that the line between the two muscle groups is in the wrong place. See (4) in the next diagram.)
(5) The trapezius muscles go from the base of the skull, down the back and out across the shoulder. Drawing them slightly concave or convex makes the shoulder line look more natural. It should be pointed out that this is one spots where muscles attached to the back of a figure are visible from the front. There are two others of note.
(6) The muscles on the inside of the back of the thigh go halfway down the femur. Again, these muscles are on the back of the figure but they're visible from the front. leaving these out makes a gap between the legs at the inseam.
(7) For the sake of completeness... the Latissimus dorsi is the third muscle of note. Paying attention to this spot goes a long way towards making torsos look three-dimensional: The pecs and deltoids go ontop of the bicep, and the bicep goes on top of the lats. This creates a layering effect.
...Dang, that is one smexy little diagram.
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Surface:
Note: The arm on the left looks reeeely beefy, because I exaggerated some of the muscle definition for demonstration purposes. The arm on the right is not so exaggerated. Muscles overlap and mesh with each other. One of the best tricks for drawing them is to look for Ys and Ts. Good examples of these are at (1) and (11).
(http://www.whitefoxart.com/artwork/redline/tierra_purpline.png) |
(1) Deltoids go about a third of the way down the bicep.
(2) There's a convex spot where the bicep roots to the eblow.
(3) Corner of elbow joint sticking out.
(4) Ulnar furrow.
(5) Curve made by the ribcage and it's muscles.
(6) Crease at the armpit. Note that there's two here: One made by the curvature of the top of the breast, the other by the pectroal and deltoid muscles. Figures may have one or the other or both, depending on their physical build and their pose. And gender. (Dang it... I don't like how they look here. Argh.)
(7) Crease of the abdominal muscle.
(8 ) Protrusion of the hip.
(9) Crease between the bicep and the deltoid. The bicep comes out from under the deltoid.
(10) Crease created by the ribcage. I added it here just to say that it shouldn't be there, because it is very rarely visible, unless the character is bending backwards. Or anorexic.
(11) Crease of the thigh muscles.
(12) This pose raises the shoulder, which flexes the traps, angles the collar bone upward, and creates an indentation between the deltoid and the trapezius.
The way you draw faces is highly stylized, so I'm not sure if thats something you want to change or not. I figured it wouldn't hurt to include the following points on facial anatomy, since it's all good to know.
(13) A touch of curve on the side of the muzzle.
(13.1) Small indent where the upper and lower lips meet.
(13.2) A slight slope at the bridge of the nose. Also note the Y there.
(13.3) The cheekbone and brow protrude a bit from the side of the head.
(13.4) Corner of the jaw is level with the mouth.
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This one looks weird. Does it look weird? I think it looks weird. :B
Anyway... I hope this helps.
(Note to self: It's 5:30AM!
Go to bed already!)
Legs were always a problem for me, especially thighs. Though I am trying to work on the face more, it's a bit of trial and error when stylizing and still working on it. Hopefully the face will eventually turn out to look the correct way it should. I also gotta keep in mind that I do draw characters with different builds (Tierra being practically normal, Citrine being muscular, ect.) let alone different species.
Your help is very welcomed and will keep in mind these notes for future drawlingz :B
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on October 03, 2010, 10:43:35 PM
Legs were always a problem for me, especially thighs.
Personally, I hate feet more then hands and faces combined. :<
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on October 03, 2010, 10:43:35 PM
Though I am trying to work on the face more, it's a bit of trial and error when stylizing and still working on it.
It's all trial and error. The moment an artists work stops being experimental, it becomes stagnant.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on October 03, 2010, 10:43:35 PM
I also gotta keep in mind that I do draw characters with different builds (Tierra being practically normal, Citrine being muscular, ect.) let alone different species.
I heartily applaud you, good sir. It drives me nuts when artists never bother to learn how to draw more then one body type/species.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on October 03, 2010, 10:43:35 PM
Your help is very welcomed and will keep in mind these notes for future drawlingz :B
I just hope it helps... Good luck
Now to change things up a bit!
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1286237266.arroyo_triboniophorustyrannussprite.png)
Pyro's Brain Slug Sprite (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4580672)
Cute little bugger isn't he? Too bad he's not all that noticeable in-game. : <
Also, debating whether or not if I should make a quick mini reference for Tierra and Devyn. Yes or no?
And who should I begin with?
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1286666887.arroyo_cartoonyiconpair1.png)
Icon batch: Arroyo and Tierra (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4606245)
I might do commissions (ATs for close friends) for these icons. I might do another batch as an example.
arroyo sprite sheet as of (10/9/10) (NSFW?) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sprites/arroyospritesheetasof10910.png)
Anddd a sprite sheet...yay~ Yeah not much on it. I don't like making sprites as I use to but I still do it to relief myself of boredom. Hopefully I'll get around to doing more different poses (than just doing random arm poses)
If that top version of the sprites is naked, might want to make it a url tag instead of an img, and mark it NSFW. Not that anything is visible, but... you know. As a matter of protocol.
Considering it's a sprite, there's quite a bit of detail there. Particularly on the outfit and hair.
Are you going to do any animations for it?
Quote from: WhiteFox on October 10, 2010, 05:06:49 PM
If that top version of the sprites is naked, might want to make it a url tag instead of an img, and mark it NSFW. Not that anything is visible, but... you know. As a matter of protocol.
Considering it's a sprite, there's quite a bit of detail there. Particularly on the outfit and hair.
Are you going to do any animations for it?
Most likely, that's why I make sprites nowadays. Sprite comics are a low form of comicing and it's too much work to make a 100% custom sprite comic with backgrounds from scratch and such.
However making a colorful assortment of poses will be tricky, seeing that some poses will require foreshortening of the body and such.
Plus the sprites aren't showing anything naughty (unless you consider pubic fur naughty) so I dunno what the forum's policy is on clean nudity.
The forum's Official Policy is "play it safe"
Case in point: At least one person I'm aware of has a job that would object to artistic pictures of women in full clothing, if the clothing is tight. That particular job is, IMHO, excessively anal-retentive, but having said that, it's someone else's livelihood we're working with here, so if you err on the side of caution, everyone is happy.
Does that help?
I love my job.. but the rules are brutal by time. ;_;
kept everything in a link so it doesn't stretch the page in a ridiculous fashion.
Profile doodle (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0066.jpg)
The arm gave me trouble on this. plus i haven't drawn a profile of anything in a while.
Gaia avatar headshot for October 2010 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4627201)
Zombie scarecrow. What else can you say about it? Oh wait, this was my first attempt at a human skull : D
Profile Doodle:
In human proportions, the neck is about 2/3rds as deep as the head is. The figure here has a neck about 1/4th as deep as the head, which reduces the depth of the chest. This in turn reduces the width of the shoulder and pushes it forward. It also flattens the spine, which normally curves out a bit at the base of the neck, and back in at the lower ribcage. The head itself looks about the right size, and the front of the neck seems to be in about the right place.
That's the thing about proportions... changing the size of one thing can change the size of everything else. :B
The chest usually comes out a bit from the collar bone down, and the sternum lines up with the front of the face (not accounting for a furry muzzle, that is).
The shoulder is actually placed pretty far back. In profile, the front of the shoulder lines up with the middle of the torso.
Headshot:
I said skulls were fun to draw, didn't I? :3 Looks cool.
Landscape quick sketch (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d317w3f)
Googled some random landscape and decided to do a quick sketch of it, I still need work on stairs : E
Emotion Request 1 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4669807/)
Emotion Request 2 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4674424/)
Random Requests I did for some people on FA. Think I could have done a bit better.
Random Arroyo head practice (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0075.jpg)
Wanted to alter his look a bit so, I played around with the eyes and junk.
ER 1-2: The muzzles are much less blocky looking than usual.
Random Arroyo head: I like the chin in the profile.
Interesting developments... It looks like you're making some good progress. Very cool.
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/300/1/4/jamballon_sprite_by_arroyo_river-d31nni3.gif)
Jamballon~ (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/#/d31nni3)
AKA jellyfish balloon <3
I should probably draw something awesome to make up for this much "Kawaii" going on.
Here's a quick sketch of Arroyo's hair affected by Gravity (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d321zqk)
I also reused an old practice sketch for this. : <
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/307/0/b/arroyo_idle_test_by_arroyo_river-d324m30.gif)
Rough Animation test of Arroyo sprite (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/#/d324m30)
Something I'm working on, needs criticism.
Gravity sketches: I swear... not enough artists practice this stuff.
I notice the eyes and muzzle are looking less blocky, and the mouth has more definition to it. That little indent for the lips on the bottom left drawing is a nice little detail.
In human proportions (and animal ones too, I think... not certain for sure) the corner of the jaw lines up vertically with the front of the ear. The ears are set farther back, but the eyes are extra large, so it'd probably look alright there without having to move anything around.
The hair looks good as far as being affected by gravity goes. The shape of it seems like a flat surface, rather than strands.
The ears on the two drawings on the left seem like they're not quite placed right... Hold on.
(Turns laptop sideways for a moment)
Actually, the lower one looks okay if the ears were being flattened back. The position of the top two don't match up: in the drawing on the left, the lower point of the ear is level with the middle of the eye instead of being slightly above the eyebrow, and the upper side is above the corner of the eye, rather than the middle of the eye. Same goes for the part of the hair.
When eyes are relaxed or neutral, the upper lid covers over just a tiny bit of the pupil. Characters look wired if the eyelid is higher. Which, really, might be the intended effect. Just thought I'd point it out.
Tierra quick reference sketch (NSFW?) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/IMAGE0028.jpg)
I actually do need to make some quick references for some characters. Of course I'll be adding more info on the final version of this.
Fun fact: Tierra actually has a black spot on her back. :3~
Tierra Practice Page (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4815338/)
My jaw felt sore after getting my wisdom teeth yanked, they're better right now.
...I should make practice pages for my other characters. 2 down, 3 (or maybe 7...) more to go!
Citrine Practice Page (NSFW?) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4837112/)
Put a NSFW tag on it cause I was rather unsure. : E She came out quite nice IMO. :3
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1291158894.arroyo_devyndoodlepage.jpg)
Devyn Practice Page (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4875459/)
Now with a random dog skull...and no that isn't Devyn's skull D:
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1291177996.arroyo_failedpage1.jpg)
Failed What a Tail Page 1 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4876959/)
Very old, but still a bit of a reminder why I should improve >_>;
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1291438581.arroyo_aricpracticepage.jpg)
Aric Practice Page (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4891492/)
Combining the two things I severely need work on: Hands and humans.
Tierra quick reference 2010 (NSFW) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4896172)
a rushed yet finished quick reference of Tierra. Good chance to try practing inking with the ink pen tool. : D
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1291681085.arroyo_arroyowintericon2010sketchandfinish.jpg)
Arroyo Winter Icon 2010 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4904928)
I wanted to make a winter icon this year around : <
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/344/c/9/coffee_mug_avatar_template_by_arroyo_river-d34letx.png)
Coffee mug template (http://arroyo-river.deviantart.com/#/d34letx)
Design your own coffee mug :D Iz fun stuff!
Nikolas head sketches (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/art/Nikolas-headshot-sketches-190303961)
I haven't drawn this character in a while soooo why not start now?
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/361/1/3/cave_story_sprite__arroyo_by_drawlylawly-d35tmue.gif)
Cave Story Sprite: Arroyo (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/art/Cave-Story-Sprite-Arroyo-191179238)
I got back into the groove of playing Cave Story, so I wanted to make some sprites in that style .w.
(NSFW) Tierra sketch WIP (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5008662)
A little something I'm working on. Justa bit of anatomy practice and maybe to break out my new pens to try to ink it traditionally >w>
Also I switched DA accounts, why? I guess to start over for the new year .w.;
Tierra Marker pinup (NSFW) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5022677)
Annnd here is the finished product. : V
Currently focusing on making a new reference sheet for Arroyo. Usually I try to revise the design a bit, along with the information.
WIP Arroyo reference 2011 part 1 (NSFW?) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/Image1_edited-2.jpg)
Of course its appropriate to draw a small full body view of him. Backside of him is in part 2, which I will put up later...
Oh, nice. The shape of the figure looks like it's improving, it feels more... 3D. Sorta. Depth. Volume. That sort of thing.
The profile of the body looks pretty good. The feet are placed a bit far forward, which looks a little off balance.
The part of the hair in profile looks farther forward than the one from straight on. From the side, the locks are behind the eye, while from straight on, they overlap the eye.
Quote from: WhiteFox on January 16, 2011, 09:39:53 PM
Oh, nice. The shape of the figure looks like it's improving, it feels more... 3D. Sorta. Depth. Volume. That sort of thing.
The profile of the body looks pretty good. The feet are placed a bit far forward, which looks a little off balance.
The part of the hair in profile looks farther forward than the one from straight on. From the side, the locks are behind the eye, while from straight on, they overlap the eye.
I'll get to fixing that.
His hair is a bit weird, I think that's just a normal error I make. I usually juggle it between having it over his eye slightly and having it over to the side. Can't seem to make up my mind for it : P
WIP Arroyo reference 2011 part 2 (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/Image1.jpg)
Just a sketch of the backside of him, mostly to show off the hair, his eye and his insignia.
WIP Arroyo reference part 3 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5114220)
Was trying to go off of a reference (http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1346/tudorsmanswordpose.jpg) with this picture.
A little something I'm working on for my 2011 reference sheet. I haven't added any clothing (yet) because I want to make sure I have certain things right with this picture.
Such as the pose, and the anatomy. I might change up the expression however I'm not sure what kind of expression I should go for. It just seems boring with a neutral expression.
Helpful suggestions and comments would be nice :3
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1295738960.arroyo_image1-1.jpg)
Completed sketch of part 3 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5136033)
I added clothing and fixed it up a bit. Hopefully it will look even better inked and colored.
(http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/029/3/2/arroyo_2011_reference_by_drawlylawly-d38cx9x.jpg)
Arroyo reference 2011 (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/art/Arroyo-2011-Reference-195438453?q=gallery%3Adrawlylawly&qo=3)
Now I kind of deeply regret using that sketch as part of my reference sheet. it just seems to throw me off a bit. That and I should have went a bit thinner with my inking for the lineart. Furaffinity has a bit more of a NSFW version.
Also general data about Arroyo in the author's comments.
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1296460270.arroyo_image1-5.jpg)
Practice sketch 01 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5182597/)
I am well aware I have made some mistakes on this sketch and fixed them (though I haven't scanned the fixed version yet) such as the left leg being taller than the right leg, and the right foot looks very weird.
I can say this, I did do something different when starting this sketch. I usually start with the head but I decided to use lines to have a rough idea of how to plan the pose out then add structure. I'll have to do a step-by-step sketch of what i mean >w>;
WIP art trade sketch (NSFW?) (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/Image1-6.jpg)
I hate drawing humans so much ;~; They always come out...weird in the face. This is why some of my human characters are almost never drawn (and colored)
I fixed the first practice sketch up a bit with the center of gravity issue.
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1297412682.arroyo_image1-8.jpg)
Practice sketch 2: Arroyo expressions (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5242171/)
Now for some fun expressions! YAY! >:3
oh gawd how long as it been? ah well UPDATE TIME!
(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/065/d/3/wip__citrine_meditation_by_drawlylawly-d3apf8l.jpg)
Citrine meditation revision sketch (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/#/d3apf8l)
A WIP but soon it will be done!
I like the foreshortening on the forearm, and the pose on the legs looks nice. The legs look kind of thick around the ankles.
Quick redline with some thoughts on the ears:
(http://www.whitefoxart.com/artwork/redline/cit_med_redl.png)
'Course, I can't recall what species Citrine is off the top of my head, so I'm assuming a canine breed of some sort with folded ears.
Can't wait for the final version.
Thank Whitefox. Also Citrine was a Candus. The ears fold in a rather odd fashion.
I updated the picture so it has hands. I... think they came out too blocky but they are probably close to proportion...hopefully.
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/079/0/f/wip__citrine_meditation_by_drawlylawly-d3apf8l.jpg)
I also need to figure out an appropriate attire too...hmmm...
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1301531941.arroyo_meditationcitrinesoftshading.jpg)
Meditation (soft-shading) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5493467)
I...feel proud for once. I usually get bummed out when I finish inking it because of how awful the inking comes out but this time...it actually came out nice. I dunno why i soft shaded it, but I do think I should make a cell-shaded version sometime.
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1301542132.arroyo_sketchcollabblahdhaskdasld.jpg)
Headshot doodles (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5494552/)
Headshot doodles. One of Arroyo, one of someone I talk to MSN a bit, and a troll version of one of my hooman characters, Drawliet. Yes...I got homestuck'd. :B
I come bearing loads of new stuff.
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1302661227.arroyo_arroyotierraiconbundle_edited-1.jpg)
Arroyo and Tierra doodle icons (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5568401)
I got bored one day and doodled something and then I turned that into an icon. :U
(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/128/6/2/practice_sketch_04_by_drawlylawly-d3fxczs.jpg)
Practice Sketch 4 (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/#/d3fxczs)
More doodling, though I've been told my anatomy needs a lot more work than meets the eye. If you are curious where Practice sketch 3 is; Its right here (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/#/d3f3qqu)
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/139/5/9/the_holy_mackerel_prop_by_drawlylawly-d3gq585.jpg)
The Holy Mackerel prop (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/#/d3gq585)
Bluh bluh TF2 fan. It was a prop for my Scout cos-play to a convention, had a great time and people liked my fish. I'm definitely going to have to top this year next year : 3
Some weird Arroyo doodles (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/Image1-8.jpg?t=1306687526)
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/ArroyoMilori/Sketches/Image1-8.jpg?t=1306687526)
I don't know what to call this. I just drew his head a bit different each time, trying to figure out how I should go about drawing him. Stopped at 4 probably because I was a bit satisfied with the results, though I may redraw it a 5th or 6th time.
Oh yeah, I also developed a bad habit to write little self critique notes from time-to-time. My handwriting is terribad.
#1: "A little rusty while drawing this" "Eyes too big" "Muzzle to long" "Yuck!"
#2: " Chin is ok" "Eyes seem to close together" "mouth needs work" "meh..."
#3: "Worth a shot!" "Eyes could be a bit rounder" "chin needs work" "try to duplicate result"
#4: "Ok!" "eyes are rounder" "Muzzle lowered"
Ha! That's not a bad habit, I do it too.
This amused me.
Quote from: JaxiD on May 29, 2011, 02:02:21 PM
Ha! That's not a bad habit, I do it too.
This amused me.
It is important to self critique yourself to better yourself art-wise. -w-
I have to say, I did like the varying hair types. I'm not quite sure why, though...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 31, 2011, 05:44:07 PM
I have to say, I did like the varying hair types. I'm not quite sure why, though...
I wouldn't say it's varying, more like improving on the way. I noticed it gets curlier each time though...
Though I need to get around to making a better reference sheet with alternate haircuts.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on May 29, 2011, 12:52:33 PM
I don't know what to call this. I just drew his head a bit different each time, trying to figure out how I should go about drawing him.
Quote from: JaxiD on May 29, 2011, 02:02:21 PM
Ha! That's not a bad habit, I do it too.
Ditto.
I don't know what to call it either, but I do the same thing... about 4/5ths of my sketch book looks like this.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on May 29, 2011, 11:41:41 PM
It is important to self critique yourself to better yourself art-wise. -w-
Amen to that!
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on May 31, 2011, 05:51:10 PM
I wouldn't say it's varying, more like improving on the way. I noticed it gets curlier each time though...
I find that my characters appearance evolve not because I'm changing their design, but because the way I draw them steadily gets closer to the way I imagined them in the first place. Is it kind of like that?
I like the protrait on the bottom. The bridge of the nose looks like it slopes outward smoothly, and looks more like a natural muzzle shape. Less blocky. I like the hair, too. Not sure why.
The way the chin slopes in seemed kinda odd. A lot of canines tend to have very little lower jaw, but it almost looks like an underbite
The convex eyes are probably a stylistic choice, but they look kinda strange to me.
Here's a quick redline with a few thoughts...
(http://www.whitefoxart.com/artwork/redline/face_variations_a.png)
Never mind the nose, btw. In retrospect, the original one looks just fine. I don't know why I thought it needed tweaking. The eyes were reshaped to make them concave, but also because they looked... well, like they weren't level. Tilted, or skewed.
Tweaked the hair just a bit to push the ear forward, and add a little more depth to the back of the head. Mostly just to see what it would look like.
Quote from: WhiteFox on June 01, 2011, 09:03:22 PM
I find that my characters appearance evolve not because I'm changing their design, but because the way I draw them steadily gets closer to the way I imagined them in the first place. Is it kind of like that?
Precisely!
QuoteI like the protrait on the bottom. The bridge of the nose looks like it slopes outward smoothly, and looks more like a natural muzzle shape. Less blocky. I like the hair, too. Not sure why.
The way the chin slopes in seemed kinda odd. A lot of canines tend to have very little lower jaw, but it almost looks like an underbite
The convex eyes are probably a stylistic choice, but they look kinda strange to me.
Here's a quick redline with a few thoughts...
(http://www.whitefoxart.com/artwork/redline/face_variations_a.png)
Never mind the nose, btw. In retrospect, the original one looks just fine. I don't know why I thought it needed tweaking. The eyes were reshaped to make them concave, but also because they looked... well, like they weren't level. Tilted, or skewed.
Tweaked the hair just a bit to push the ear forward, and add a little more depth to the back of the head. Mostly just to see what it would look like.
I like the hair too :3 Though I'll need to make a ponytailed and a short haircut version someday.
As for the jaw...I hope you know that he isn't canine right? I was afraid that the muzzle may look canineish in the end but decided to experiment on it
...for science. But I did notice that canine muzzles tend to go a bit more straight out, feline muzzles tend to slope downward a bit.
I think the eyes were drawn that way because of how I drew the head, which is kind of tilting downward but I can't tell if the eye position would be natural or not if the head appeared to be tilting down.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on June 01, 2011, 10:22:49 PM
I think the eyes were drawn that way because of how I drew the head, which is kind of tilting downward but I can't tell if the eye position would be natural or not if the head appeared to be tilting down.
There's pitch, yaw, and roll. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rollpitchyawplain.png)If the head is tilted up or down (pitch) or turning left or right (yaw), or both, the eyes
will stay level with each other.
If the head leans left or right (roll), the eyes will tilt. The head will pitch and yaws to view things or as a part of body language, but rolling is usually expressive only, implying ignorance, confusion, or a question.
Eyes will not be level if the camera is at a significant angle above or below the head, due to parallax.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on June 01, 2011, 10:22:49 PM
As for the jaw...I hope you know that he isn't canine right? I was afraid that the muzzle may look canineish in the end but decided to experiment on it...for science. But I did notice that canine muzzles tend to go a bit more straight out, feline muzzles tend to slope downward a bit.
Science! (http://wearscience.com/)
Ahem... What must have thrown me off is that when I see a head turned at that angle with a line from the nose to the mouth that's straight, I think "dog."
...The vertical pupils and triangular nose should have tipped me off. What kind of cat were you using as a base?
Quote from: WhiteFox on June 01, 2011, 11:04:44 PM
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on June 01, 2011, 10:22:49 PM
I think the eyes were drawn that way because of how I drew the head, which is kind of tilting downward but I can't tell if the eye position would be natural or not if the head appeared to be tilting down.
There's pitch, yaw, and roll. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rollpitchyawplain.png)If the head is tilted up or down (pitch) or turning left or right (yaw), or both, the eyes will stay level with each other.
If the head leans left or right (roll), the eyes will tilt. The head will pitch and yaws to view things or as a part of body language, but rolling is usually expressive only, implying ignorance, confusion, or a question.
Eyes will not be level if the camera is at a significant angle above or below the head, due to parallax.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on June 01, 2011, 10:22:49 PM
As for the jaw...I hope you know that he isn't canine right? I was afraid that the muzzle may look canineish in the end but decided to experiment on it...for science. But I did notice that canine muzzles tend to go a bit more straight out, feline muzzles tend to slope downward a bit.
Science! (http://wearscience.com/)
Ahem... What must have thrown me off is that when I see a head turned at that angle with a line from the nose to the mouth that's straight, I think "dog."
...The vertical pupils and triangular nose should have tipped me off. What kind of cat were you using as a base?
Actually I was trying to go for the girly looking lion look. So I really wasn't drawing from a base per-say.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on June 01, 2011, 11:11:02 PM
Actually I was trying to go for the girly looking lion look. So I really wasn't drawing from a base per-say.
"Inspired by" might be a better term.
As an observation, lions tend to have pretty prominent, round chins, and the fur covers the "top" of the nose.
(PS: If I'm annoying you with my nit-picking, just give me a blast, aright? :3 I'm just sorta brainstorming stuff that might make the muzzle look more feline.)
Quote from: WhiteFox on June 01, 2011, 11:40:02 PM
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on June 01, 2011, 11:11:02 PM
Actually I was trying to go for the girly looking lion look. So I really wasn't drawing from a base per-say.
"Inspired by" might be a better term.
As an observation, lions tend to have pretty prominent, round chins, and the fur covers the "top" of the nose.
(PS: If I'm annoying you with my nit-picking, just give me a blast, aright? :3 I'm just sorta brainstorming stuff that might make the muzzle look more feline.)
Well thanks for your advice : D
Same image, but more to it. Including Tierra and Citrine. : D
(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/160/0/0/practice_sketch_06_by_drawlylawly-d3igub6.jpg)
More headshot doodles! (http://fav.me/d3igub6)
Looking back at the Arroyo ones from now, I still think I can do better but I guess its alright for now. The Tierra ones were bleh as well, the last one for Citrine has weird eye alignment issues but nothing that can't be fixed in my sketchbook (though I won't post the revision)
The fact this topic wasn't locked after collecting so much dust astounds me. I also added my tumblr account on the first post, but for the msot part its just stupid spam posts. :E But occasionally I put up art. Anyways Art!
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1311569331.arroyo_image1-15.jpg)
Tierra idle sketch (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6184312)
At the time I thought this was actually kind of decent, but now i realize I drew it a bit crooked. The Left foot not even touching the ground correctly, even though i was trying to forshorten the foot part of it.
(http://d.facdn.net/art/arroyo/1315111588.arroyo_arroyoshades500.jpg)
Arroyo Shades Icon (failed) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6433545)
Failed because it didn't come out as I wanted it to be, the shading is horrible and the image itself lacked the detail I wanted. I suppose this would happen if I took too much time off during the summer not drawing on the tablet.
(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/253/b/6/desu_ecks_machina_hamaxe_by_drawlylawly-d49fnxb.jpg)
Desu Ecks Machina rough sketch (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/#/d49fnxb%5B/url)
I wanted to create a weapon for Tierra but not sure what. Although I usually don't make a weapon without the character's insignia involved with it, but this idea was too good to toss out. So why not a Toy hammer with a silly name?
(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/253/a/a/trying_something_different____by_drawlylawly-d49fmdg.jpg)
Stylization doodles (http://drawlylawly.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=scraps#/d49fmdg)
I wanted to try something a bit different but in the end I hated all of it in their own unique way. :)
Tierra torso drawing (http://the-river-blues.tumblr.com/post/10550665656/something-i-might-throw-into-tierras-reference)
It's a NSFW picture, but I'm hoping to get some opinions on the torso, I was triyng to make her have a rectangle figure, to hopefully add to some pudginess to her belly. Just to show she is healthy and not oddly thin.
Well, I got a distinct impression of rectangular build and slight pudge.
The breasts look like they're slightly different sizes... not sure which one should be considered the "right" size.
Her arms look kinda long. Typically, the wrists come down to the hip joint, and the elbows line up roughly with the bottom of the rib cage (well, not including the floating ribs).
Quote from: WhiteFox on September 24, 2011, 07:01:36 PM
Well, I got a distinct impression of rectangular build and slight pudge.
The breasts look like they're slightly different sizes... not sure which one should be considered the "right" size.
Her arms look kinda long. Typically, the wrists come down to the hip joint, and the elbows line up roughly with the bottom of the rib cage (well, not including the floating ribs).
I'm mostly showing concern for the hips and upper thigh they don't seem right...ya know?
In addition to what Whitefox had mentioned, the clavicle lines are a pinch too far out and not quite low enough.
The neck seems a bit vacant and could be a little longer.
The head is also... Too big? Unless there was some sort of moe aesthetic you were working towards.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on September 24, 2011, 07:24:32 PM
I'm mostly showing concern for the hips and upper thigh they don't seem right...ya know?
Oh... well, it looks like the top of the hip bone (and the belly button) is a bit low. That might be messing up some of the proportions.
It also looks like Tierra is turned slightly away from the camera. Based on that assumption, I did a quick redline:
Tierra Torso Redline (http://www.whitefoxart.com/artwork/redline/tierra_torso_red.png) NSFW: Nudity.
I threw in my 2c for the clavicle, and the elbow just for good measure.
[edit] Actually, methinks I placed the mark for the sternum sternum a bit low.
Allllrighty then.
The concept behind "the redline" is to not only point out corrections, but also to display where one could do better. Now, since whitefox has not even deigned to provide you with something more informative beyond his own version of the "higher or lower" game, and not only that, but he seems to have missed the point entirely about pointing out flaws in anatomy drawing, and that going right to the key point where most proportional work begins: the head and spine.
Let's post a redline of my own, shall we? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/arroyoredline.jpg)
Now, working with the proportions you've already set in place with this female canid, whom is evidently looking off to the side while the rest of her body is facing squarely with the camera slightly. We note the head is somewhat larger in proportion to the rest of her body, whitefox's correction about arm length is there, and generally the elbow is around waist height. depending on figure, the female generally has a narrow waist in comparison to her ribs and hips. Speaking of hips, they are indeed quite narrow, a little wider to improve the taper of the waist should alleviate that.
as for the breasts? it goes without saying that they're more like water balloons that actual balloons, more to the point they're sacks of fat, they're soft, squishy, and gravity takes hold. generally speaking without anything holding them up they tend to form not too far from the bottom half of a water drop in terms of shape. this is largely dependent on overall cup size.
Taking all this and more into account, we get something like this. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/arroyogreenline.jpg) Which i believe was your intention for camera and posing.
If i seem a tad harsh or anything it's because of the fact that nobody here has thought to go "back" over a few of the basics with you, and the problem with having one artist teach you instead of sourcing information from many, is that you pick up that one artist's bad habits. Your proportions and structure need work in this case, things like belly buttons, sternums and the clavicles can wait until you that sorted out, focusing too much on the fiddly things now that chances are will be covered by clothing and fur can wait for later.
QuoteThe head is also... Too big? Unless there was some sort of moe aesthetic you were working towards.
I guess you could say I did that intentionally for that purpose, but I won't use that as an excuse of course.
Quote from: Turnsky on September 25, 2011, 12:36:35 PM
Allllrighty then.
The concept behind "the redline" is to not only point out corrections, but also to display where one could do better. Now, since whitefox has not even deigned to provide you with something more informative beyond his own version of the "higher or lower" game, and not only that, but he seems to have missed the point entirely about pointing out flaws in anatomy drawing, and that going right to the key point where most proportional work begins: the head and spine.
Let's post a redline of my own, shall we? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/arroyoredline.jpg)
Now, working with the proportions you've already set in place with this female canid, whom is evidently looking off to the side while the rest of her body is facing squarely with the camera slightly. We note the head is somewhat larger in proportion to the rest of her body, whitefox's correction about arm length is there, and generally the elbow is around waist height. depending on figure, the female generally has a narrow waist in comparison to her ribs and hips. Speaking of hips, they are indeed quite narrow, a little wider to improve the taper of the waist should alleviate that.
as for the breasts? it goes without saying that they're more like water balloons that actual balloons, more to the point they're sacks of fat, they're soft, squishy, and gravity takes hold. generally speaking without anything holding them up they tend to form not too far from the bottom half of a water drop in terms of shape. this is largely dependent on overall cup size.
Taking all this and more into account, we get something like this. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/arroyogreenline.jpg) Which i believe was your intention for camera and posing.
If i seem a tad harsh or anything it's because of the fact that nobody here has thought to go "back" over a few of the basics with you, and the problem with having one artist teach you instead of sourcing information from many, is that you pick up that one artist's bad habits. Your proportions and structure need work in this case, things like belly buttons, sternums and the clavicles can wait until you that sorted out, focusing too much on the fiddly things now that chances are will be covered by clothing and fur can wait for later.
Her body is suppose to be facing slightly away, and as for your redlining I do appreciate it but you overlooked one detail: I was trying to purposely give her a rectangular shape body, not an hourglass shape. Why Rectangular? Is because I wanted her to have some fat but not like, a large amount, just enough to make her seem healthy but still have some imperfections with her body.
Also, I redrew it, so hopefully i got it right this time, or close to it. (http://i.imgur.com/XholK.jpg)
Huh.
I notice that you draw a circle for the head, and add the jaw to it. I think what's happening is that the jaw is both taking up space where the neck would be, and unbalancing the appearance of proportions based on the height of the head. When I measure the torso proportions using the circle, sans jaw, most of the torso looks right.
The face on this version is a stellar improvement, by the way. Particularly the muzzle.
I'll take another crack at a redline for the hips... not right now, tho. It's late.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on September 25, 2011, 09:41:07 PM
QuoteThe head is also... Too big? Unless there was some sort of moe aesthetic you were working towards.
I guess you could say I did that intentionally for that purpose, but I won't use that as an excuse of course.
Quote from: Turnsky on September 25, 2011, 12:36:35 PM
Allllrighty then.
The concept behind "the redline" is to not only point out corrections, but also to display where one could do better. Now, since whitefox has not even deigned to provide you with something more informative beyond his own version of the "higher or lower" game, and not only that, but he seems to have missed the point entirely about pointing out flaws in anatomy drawing, and that going right to the key point where most proportional work begins: the head and spine.
Let's post a redline of my own, shall we? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/arroyoredline.jpg)
Now, working with the proportions you've already set in place with this female canid, whom is evidently looking off to the side while the rest of her body is facing squarely with the camera slightly. We note the head is somewhat larger in proportion to the rest of her body, whitefox's correction about arm length is there, and generally the elbow is around waist height. depending on figure, the female generally has a narrow waist in comparison to her ribs and hips. Speaking of hips, they are indeed quite narrow, a little wider to improve the taper of the waist should alleviate that.
as for the breasts? it goes without saying that they're more like water balloons that actual balloons, more to the point they're sacks of fat, they're soft, squishy, and gravity takes hold. generally speaking without anything holding them up they tend to form not too far from the bottom half of a water drop in terms of shape. this is largely dependent on overall cup size.
Taking all this and more into account, we get something like this. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/arroyogreenline.jpg) Which i believe was your intention for camera and posing.
If i seem a tad harsh or anything it's because of the fact that nobody here has thought to go "back" over a few of the basics with you, and the problem with having one artist teach you instead of sourcing information from many, is that you pick up that one artist's bad habits. Your proportions and structure need work in this case, things like belly buttons, sternums and the clavicles can wait until you that sorted out, focusing too much on the fiddly things now that chances are will be covered by clothing and fur can wait for later.
Her body is suppose to be facing slightly away, and as for your redlining I do appreciate it but you overlooked one detail: I was trying to purposely give her a rectangular shape body, not an hourglass shape. Why Rectangular? Is because I wanted her to have some fat but not like, a large amount, just enough to make her seem healthy but still have some imperfections with her body.
Also, I redrew it, so hopefully i got it right this time, or close to it. (http://i.imgur.com/XholK.jpg)
then less emphasis would be put on the curvature of the waist, proportionally barring some niggling features you're getting there.
Hope you don't mind another redline (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/arroyoredline2.jpg)
It's important to remember that techniques only go so far, and if you rely on one too much it tends to fall apart when you try something else with it. The "head height" ideal is a fairly good example, as it's only suitable for direct facing angles such as front, back, side. so it tends to become increasingly redundant when you try different perspective angles and foreshortening. the main consideration is to remember what's in relation to what.
Take your elbows into consideration for example; why are they too low? The "waist" when structuring a character drawing is generally that space just below the rib cage and just above the hips, so really the elbow should be roughly below the ribcage, and following on from that, the wrist is generally at the same level as a character's butt.
you know, this might be actually more useful to you as well: Drawfurry.com 'figure basics' tutorial (http://www.drawfurry.com/?p=26) that might be able to help you at least knock out some of the basic ground work, after which you can begin to work on something more articulated.
It's been kind of action-less lately with art. School work could be blamed but it could be the lack of motivation and my attention is more so shifting towards story writing. But nothing involving what I usually draw, lets just say it's to prepare myself for the the project involving these characters but I have to be very careful when I start to write it considering what kind of characters are involved and such while still keeping the reader's interest without the need to pander.
The currently story is still in the process of being outlined, but I could start on doing the rough draft of chapter one any time I want or continue to brainstorm ideas and create different branches and see what actually works and makes more sense. Although I'm aiming for this to be probably a steam punk super hero comic but so far it's coming out more sci-fi right now, it could change at any time. And no, there is absolutely no anthropomorphic creatures in this story, just humans.
Anyways, sketches. I did recently acquire a manikin hand which is kind of helpful for me to get the basics down of where to start off when drawing the hand, but its not a substitute for the real deal.
I'll keep these in link format:
Hand Practice 1 (http://i.imgur.com/xHAQu.jpg)
Hand practice 2 (http://i.imgur.com/CepJp.jpg)
Hand Practice 3 (http://i.imgur.com/WcfG9.jpg)
The issue I realized when drawing hands is the foreshortening and such, like when your drawing a finger going outwards then the tip of the finger trying to curl back to the audience.
Also, I did a tiny fix up the Tierra picture a bit(NSFW) (http://i.imgur.com/Q5sJ0.jpg)
a mannequin is no substitute for the real thing, yes. Infact it's fairly useless in terms of teaching folks real structure and form. the hand is a hell of a lot more flexible than that to begin with, not to mention the thumb knuckle is stiff as all hell.
i've limited time right now, so i'll just fling you something marginally more useful by way of references and tutorials.
http://www.drawninblack.com/2009/10/how-to-draw-hands-35-tutorials-how-tos-step-by-steps-videos-studies-poses-and-photo-references/
http://polykarbon.com/tutorials/hands/hands.htm
http://alexds1.deviantart.com/art/Hand-tutorial-83785318
http://www.drawfurry.com/?p=24
you want to be able to draw human-like hands, not wooden pirate hands, after all. :P
also you might wanna ease up on the pencil there, you're fairly heavy handed, the key is being light with pencil lines, your wrist will thank you for it later. so will your pencil leads.
(not to mention it also damages the paper)
Welp, once again I came up empty handed with anything remotely interesting. Except a doodle, atleast its something.
Mini Arroyo doodle (http://the-river-blues.tumblr.com/post/13194611404/need-to-work-on-those-legs-and-faces-more)
Its been quite the busy months, but yet I still find time to do some sketches.
Heres some sketches (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7338048) Of Citrine (NSFW) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7470000) as well as a very bad experiment Gone Wrong with Tierra (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7444392/)