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Title: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Amber Williams on February 22, 2009, 05:13:23 PM
So yeah...remember when I mentioned how my mouse was acting sort of odd?  Well lets just say things have gone from blargh to BLARGH.

Not 100% sure what is up. I ran AVG and spybot...nothing turned up.  I ran the c-disk scan. Nothing turned up.  I even did a system restore to a month back but nope. Nothing. The computer seems to completely not acknowledge that mice even exist.  (For note, I used two different mice: one being a usb wireless and the other being one I plugged into the mouse port in the back.  In both cases now, both are not showing up at all)

Between that, firefox acting wonky (it keeps eating my cookies everytime I restart or close the windows), skype causing issues...I am starting to wonder if I just suck when it comes to technology.  It's a good system, and its aggravating that most people I talk to keep saying I should upgrade the whole thing.

Cause really...between the immigration issue, I dont have the funds to pull that off and I dont have any interest in trying to rustle up funds cause I am kind of aggravated that every two months something seems to show up like this. It feels like I am running some sort of scam.

But either way...I am annoyed. And I am no longer able to use a mouse at all on my computer...making it pretty impossible to scan and colour tonights comic.  Luckily, my weekend is just happening which means I can hopefully find some resolution on Monday.

I just really hope it doesnt require me having to throw down $100 to buy a new copy of windows xp since I dont have one floating around right now.

Regardless, I am in a crummy mood.  Odds are Dmoon will be making note on the main page of the situation but I figured I'd go into details here. 
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 05:21:18 PM
At the moment, I feel like that too.  Have you tried plugging the USB mouse into different USB ports?
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Kipiru on February 22, 2009, 05:23:20 PM
That's tough Amber, but don't worry about us too much. I don't think anyone will accuse you of running a scam, of all things.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Jairus on February 22, 2009, 05:25:22 PM
While I don't have mouse troubles (I don't use a mouse and am completely out of practice), I do have trackpad clicker troubles (there's like... one place on this two inch square thing that will work right), so I can sympathize. Sorry about your mouse problems. Unfortunately, aside from sympathies I'm basically useless right now.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: PinkKitty on February 22, 2009, 05:27:35 PM
Yikes. =o.o=;;

Geez Amber, something out there just seems to not like you these days... I wish it would leave you alone. =x.x= Best try as Tapewolf suggested and try all the different USB ports for your mouse, and if that still does not work, try to see if you can keyboard your way into Control Panel to your Hardware Manager and attempt to have Windows re-install your mouse drivers...

I am just hoping the solution will be something that does not involve reformating the harddrive altogether as that could have your computer out of commission for a couple of days with all the program and driver reinstallations. =x.x=;

You still have a tablet laying around though, right? Try plugging that in to see if you can use that as a mouse too... I currently use my own tablet as a mouse because my old mouse freaked out on me and does not work anymore.

Best of wishes to you, Amber... I wish the stress bug would leave you alone and just let you relax!
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tyranastrasz on February 22, 2009, 05:28:57 PM
My old computer had a similar problem. I figured it was just the fact that the thing was nearly as old as me and was running on Windows ME, so I just did without it since I hardly used that computer anyway. Never did get it fixed... Anyway, I really hope that your computer doesn't go down the same path as mine did, and best of luck to you in fixing the problems.

Quote from: Kipiru on February 22, 2009, 05:23:20 PM
That's tough Amber, but don't worry about us too much. I don't think anyone will accuse you of running a scam, of all things.

:rolleyes She's totally spent the past ten years making a webcomic so she could scam a couple hundred dollars out of people. Come now, Amber, even if it was a scam, I'd think you could come up with a better one than that in ten years. "Give me one hundred MEEEEEEEEEEELLLLYON dollars by 3 PM or Earzilla will destroy Seattle!!!!!!!!" type of thing.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Noone on February 22, 2009, 05:32:50 PM
Sounds like it's most likely hardware issues, but, there are a few things I can think of...
On Firefox: have you tried clearing your cache? If it's eating up cookies when you open/close windows, it might not have the space to store them. I don't know for sure, but if you haven't in a while, go to 'tools' -> 'Clear Private Data', Then select/deselect the said items. It doesn't sound like that is the definite cause but it might help.

Also, have you tried checking task manager to see how your computer is holding in the 'performance' section? There should be two fields, CPU usage, and Page File/Memory usage. If the Page File/Memory usage is too high, it can cause some... nasty things, usually dealing with slowdowns but may cause other functionality problems.

It sounds like it's a hardware issue though, I doubt inspecting the aforementioned things will fix all your problems but it might be worth looking in to.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Jairus on February 22, 2009, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Tyranastrasz on February 22, 2009, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: Kipiru on February 22, 2009, 05:23:20 PM
That's tough Amber, but don't worry about us too much. I don't think anyone will accuse you of running a scam, of all things.
:rolleyes She's totally spent the past ten years making a webcomic so she could scam a couple hundred dollars out of people. Come now, Amber, even if it was a scam, I'd think you could come up with a better one than that in ten years. "Give me one hundred MEEEEEEEEEEELLLLYON dollars by 3 PM or Earzilla will destroy Seattle!!!!!!!!" type of thing.
"Hello, Mason. Sorry for the delay, but Doctor Amber has decided that it's time for an early parole!"
"8.6."
"You kidding? She used third person! 6.5!"
"Bad hench-husband! What did I tell you about rating my intros?"

Cue Agent D. M. being sent out to take down the supervillain, only for it to be revealed that they are actually siblings, and D. M. is the white sheep of the family!

... um... heheh... sorry, felt like being silly.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Sukasa on February 22, 2009, 05:49:57 PM
About all I can suggest is that you go into Device manager and see if there're any reported problems with the USB hardware/drivers.

You may also find This (http://www.microsoft.com/enable/training/windowsxp/mousekeys.aspx) helpful.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Lego3400 on February 22, 2009, 06:01:25 PM
Also, if you've only been trying USB mice, try a normal, non USB mouse. Dunno if the still make em but it's a good thing to try out. Also... Did you check your mouse drivers? Something may have happened to them
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Amber Williams on February 22, 2009, 06:21:24 PM
First off, yes I have tried other mice. I have tried multiple ports and different usb locations.  I admit I didn't go into the exact each and every detail of what all I have done because I have done. a. lot.

But now with no mouse whatsoever, I dont really have the hotkey knowhow...or more importantly...the patience and desire to keep trying for this evening. I am at the point where I just want to wait for Mason to come home and do it for me.  So while I appreciate all the advice...please keep in mind many of this is stuff that several people have told me already, I have tried many of them...and now I am at "I dont want to bother anymore" stage so I am not in the mood to keep trying stuff.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: techmaster-glitch on February 22, 2009, 06:50:19 PM
Eeesh...a mouse problem is a pretty big problem. I hope you'll still be able to to the podcast thing tonight at least...
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: PinkKitty on February 22, 2009, 06:56:11 PM
Aye... Best just rest then, Amber... No need of stressing yourself out even more. =x.x= I am sorry if anything in my first post bothered you at all.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 22, 2009, 07:10:15 PM
Heh.

I'm in much the same state, myself. I've just spent the last 24 or more hours trying to get the wifi network here in a usable state, after the Lenny release upgraped my gateway with ipv6.

Including bouncing to a new wifi card that doesn't have drivers that will allow it to act as an AP - something of a problem, since my gateway is, well, the AP for the network. And the router. And... yeah.

I'm almost at the point where I'm willing to splash out, get a nice bridge, and use a standard network card in the server instead.


The most annoying part is the server works fine when you turn all the windows machines off... *sigh*



... Sorry, Amber. Had to vent somewhere...
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 07:27:04 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 22, 2009, 07:10:15 PM
I'm in much the same state, myself. I've just spent the last 24 or more hours trying to get the wifi network here in a usable state, after the Lenny release upgraped my gateway with ipv6.
I tried Lenny on the Eeepc by accident, last weekend IIRC.  It took twice as long as Xandros to boot, filled the disk with even more crud than Ubuntu, and only supported WEP which sensible people have been trying to kill off for the last 8 years.  I assumed this was because it was based on Debian 4 and therefore obsolete.  The horror came in the morning when I read the announcement and realised it was absolute latest release.

My personal grief at the moment is trying to get two tape decks to remain in sync.  It worked before.  It works on older synced recordings.  I just won't work on this one song for reasons I cannot explain.

While sacrificing a goat is not part of the usual repertoire of technical solutions to digital equipment failure, I'm running out of other ideas.  Maybe Amber should give it a go too.

(Maybe I should just get one of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OTARI-MTR90-MkII-24-TRACK-RECORDER-REMOTE-STUDER_W0QQitemZ220361714147QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Recorders_Rewriters?hash=item220361714147))
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Turnsky on February 22, 2009, 07:53:47 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 22, 2009, 06:21:24 PM
First off, yes I have tried other mice. I have tried multiple ports and different usb locations.  I admit I didn't go into the exact each and every detail of what all I have done because I have done. a. lot.

But now with no mouse whatsoever, I dont really have the hotkey knowhow...or more importantly...the patience and desire to keep trying for this evening. I am at the point where I just want to wait for Mason to come home and do it for me.  So while I appreciate all the advice...please keep in mind many of this is stuff that several people have told me already, I have tried many of them...and now I am at "I dont want to bother anymore" stage so I am not in the mood to keep trying stuff.

this is along the lines of "stick a pin in it for later" but it might behoove you to back up everything you can (provided you get that mouse to work) and try to(read: get someone else to) cannibalize an interim PC together. Largely dependent on whether you have any space PC parts lying about, you folks may have already tried it, or not.

by the sounds of things, there's either something very wrong with the OS, Drivers, or the motherboard. the last of which isn't good at all.  :<
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 07:56:52 PM
Just one addendum - this is probably one of the better places for a break... if it had happened on 973 or 974 there would probably be death threats  :P
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 22, 2009, 08:33:37 PM
only supported wep? Since when? look into wpa_supplicant.

My main problem with it is trying to get a card that works under linux as an AP with wpa. Which is all fun. :-/

Quote
handful:~# df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1             3.7G  1.4G  2.1G  40% /
...

Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Somewhat less crud lying about than Xandros, and at least I can update, and remove, the packages. Maybe you chose a desktop install, with lots of other packages added?
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on February 22, 2009, 08:43:48 PM
if only Abel's a tiny bit different expression were different it would be perfect. Oh well.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Naldru on February 22, 2009, 09:14:49 PM
Some things came to mind when reading your post.  Although you aren't using a Wacom tablet, you mentioned that you once had one attached, although I'm not sure if it was to this machine.  Is it possible that it is looking for the Wacom tablet mouse instead of the normal USB mouse.  Sometimes software will try an automatic update without you knowing about it and try switching the control settings.  Did you try selecting the hardware pane for the Mouse control panel and hit the troubleshoot button?  If you have another keyboard, try swapping keyboards.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: e_voyager on February 22, 2009, 09:22:18 PM
i feel your pain amber i truly do
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Attic Rat on February 23, 2009, 12:31:49 AM
Sounds like a rough situation all around!
If you have another computer in the place, you can pull the hard drive from yours and set it as a "slave" in the other.
Then you can at least back up the files you want from it.

Then you can set the drive back to "Master" and put it back in your original computer. After that you can perform mad scientist-like experiments on it without any worries of losing your (backed up) files. Yay for that, anyway.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Ted Schiller on February 23, 2009, 01:14:32 AM
Dire Mouse (he's amazing. he's fantastic.) has saved Regina.  Yay, Dire Mouse.   :mwaha

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: mopman on February 23, 2009, 02:04:57 AM
Amber , I know nothing of computers except how to use one all I can offer is a zen hug  :hug
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Jairus on February 23, 2009, 02:18:14 AM
Quote from: Ted Schiller on February 23, 2009, 01:14:32 AM
Dire Mouse (he's amazing. he's fantastic.) has saved Regina.  Yay, Dire Mouse.   :mwaha

With regards,
Ted
All he has done is prolong the inevitable. Regina's fate approaches still...
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Kenji on February 23, 2009, 02:30:20 AM
You sure seem to be living up to that "fae and technology don't mix well" standard.
There's that, if nothing else.  :compbash
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tapewolf on February 23, 2009, 04:18:32 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 22, 2009, 08:33:37 PM
only supported wep? Since when? look into wpa_supplicant.

Yes, because I really want to piss around with that when I'm at an airport  :<   (*)
I had to do it that way for AC2007, and it was no fun at all.  AC2008, I had the EeePC and it just plain worked.

For a fixed installation, yes, that's fine.  I do it that way at home.  For travel purposes, the GUI tools are what you want so you can get the thing set up quickly, and the ones which Debian ship do not support WPA

QuoteSeems perfectly reasonable to me. Somewhat less crud lying about than Xandros, and at least I can update, and remove, the packages. Maybe you chose a desktop install, with lots of other packages added?
Yes.  I might try it again later, but for now I've imaged it to back to Xandros.  Again.  Unfortunately.


* No, an airport probably wouldn't use WPA on its local net, but I'd still have to go in to disable it so that it could lock onto other networks.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: AmigaDragon on February 23, 2009, 04:33:00 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 22, 2009, 05:13:23 PM
So yeah...remember when I mentioned how my mouse was acting sort of odd?  Well lets just say things have gone from blargh to BLARGH.

Not 100% sure what is up. I ran AVG and spybot...nothing turned up.  I ran the c-disk scan. Nothing turned up.  I even did a system restore to a month back but nope. Nothing. The computer seems to completely not acknowledge that mice even exist.  (For note, I used two different mice: one being a usb wireless and the other being one I plugged into the mouse port in the back.  In both cases now, both are not showing up at all)

The last time (actually for the last year or two at least) that I've used my old Win98 laptop, any site I tried to log in to would act like I never gave a password, when I gave the correct one every time in Firefox.
If I can get past the keyboard error at POST (probably just reseat the connector), I'll be reinstalling Windoze on another HD (the old one is giving read errors). Even an old slow machine like that is good enough to run Winamp (streaming better music than the 3 local over-the-air staions) and Trillian to take some load off this faster XP machine. Running it overnight instead of the desktop will also reduce electrical usage, somewhere around 10-20 watts instead of up to 500.

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via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: icarus on February 23, 2009, 05:10:19 AM
honestly give driver detective (http://www.drivershq.com/) a try if you don't mind tabbing through it.

i'll even PM you my registration info so you can use the full version. i paid for it, i may as well get my money's worth by sharing.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 23, 2009, 06:02:06 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 23, 2009, 04:18:32 AM
For a fixed installation, yes, that's fine.  I do it that way at home.  For travel purposes, the GUI tools are what you want so you can get the thing set up quickly, and the ones which Debian ship do not support WPA

wpagui, I think, is the package for gui additions. Mind you, I don't have a WPA network to go play on, otherwise I'd be looking into it - apparently the card I'm using in the AP supports it, it's just a matter of finding time to mess with it when the wife isn't trying to use the network :-/

Mind you, I'm a strange one. The debian install I've got on there has most of the gui tools stripped out, because I'm happier with a command line...

Quote from: Tapewolf on February 23, 2009, 04:18:32 AM
* No, an airport probably wouldn't use WPA on its local net, but I'd still have to go in to disable it so that it could lock onto other networks.

Yah. The airport isn't really the place to mess around, unless you're spending several hours lurking there.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tapewolf on February 23, 2009, 06:18:43 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 23, 2009, 06:02:06 AM
wpagui, I think, is the package for gui additions. Mind you, I don't have a WPA network to go play on, otherwise I'd be looking into it - apparently the card I'm using in the AP supports it, it's just a matter of finding time to mess with it when the wife isn't trying to use the network :-/

I might try that next time, but I can't say when.  In the last two weeks I've downloaded and installed about 10 different distributions, split across the EeePC and the other laptop, so it's not something I feel like doing again for the time being.

QuoteMind you, I'm a strange one. The debian install I've got on there has most of the gui tools stripped out, because I'm happier with a command line...

Depends what you're using the device for.  My EeePC spends most of its time as a portable internet terminal, and I've used GIMP a lot on it while travelling.  The mods I made to Turnsky's Daryil picture were done on the Eee.  For those purposes, a GUI is most handy.  (Though yes, I do always have a shortcut to the console).
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 23, 2009, 06:27:43 AM
ctrl-alt-f1, isn't it? ;-]
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tapewolf on February 23, 2009, 06:35:31 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 23, 2009, 06:27:43 AM
ctrl-alt-f1, isn't it? ;-]
Not on Xandros, unfortunately.  The VT also makes life difficult if you want to launch GUI apps from the console...
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Amber Williams on February 23, 2009, 10:09:50 AM
Status Update:

Well, the mouse is back...but the quality is still questionable. Its like there is something going on with the micelings that really want to make the clicking go haywire. Like I will click once, but it counts as if I clicked 2 times in rapid succession. Not so terrible with internet browsing...but when you are trying to colour with a mouse in Photoshop...its brutal.

That and Firefox still keeps eating mah cookies everytime I close it down. Even after re-installing firefox. :U

I will probably be spending most of today working on trying to get my mouse back and running proper.  My biggest worry is I will have to buy YET AGAIN a new one just for the install cd.  Ugh...stupid mouse.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Turnsky on February 23, 2009, 11:00:22 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 23, 2009, 10:09:50 AM
Status Update:

Well, the mouse is back...but the quality is still questionable. Its like there is something going on with the micelings that really want to make the clicking go haywire. Like I will click once, but it counts as if I clicked 2 times in rapid succession. Not so terrible with internet browsing...but when you are trying to colour with a mouse in Photoshop...its brutal.


what brand?.. if it's logitech you prolly could nab a new setpoint install off the site.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: rabid_fox on February 23, 2009, 02:02:43 PM

Now's a good time to look into fingerpainting.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: MT Hazard on February 23, 2009, 03:46:58 PM
My sympathy to those with computer problems, I seem to have bouts of me causing equipment to misbehave, finding new and interesting error message and the like.

Recently after being told I couldn't crash a mac, it turned out I had, my laptop is on its second hard drive after the other one had the hardware equivalent of a stoke.

Still, not as bad as Art's Artist based anti-technology radiation   (http://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=435)
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Jack McSlay on February 23, 2009, 10:02:36 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 23, 2009, 10:09:50 AMMy biggest worry is I will have to buy YET AGAIN a new one just for the install cd.  Ugh...stupid mouse.
woudn't the manufacturer's website of the mouse/motherboards have those already?

And I think this looks like a virus has chewed off the Windows' registry.

But having the mouse double-clicking by itself is generally the mouse's fault. If you have a spare mouse, I suggest you try it now.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: AmigaDragon on February 24, 2009, 03:42:23 AM
Is it double clicking just when trying to click? It could be a dirty switch contact. With their size and construction, it's not worth trying to clean them. Though it's also possible that it could be dust or hairs inside the mouse body between the button and the switch. I've had some odd double clicks due to this myself and blowing/picking out the dust/hair helped for a while.

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Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Mao on February 24, 2009, 09:19:12 AM
Quote from: Jack McSlay on February 23, 2009, 10:02:36 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 23, 2009, 10:09:50 AMMy biggest worry is I will have to buy YET AGAIN a new one just for the install cd.  Ugh...stupid mouse.
woudn't the manufacturer's website of the mouse/motherboards have those already?

And I think this looks like a virus has chewed off the Windows' registry.

But having the mouse double-clicking by itself is generally the mouse's fault. If you have a spare mouse, I suggest you try it now.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on February 24, 2009, 03:42:23 AM
Is it double clicking just when trying to click? It could be a dirty switch contact. With their size and construction, it's not worth trying to clean them. Though it's also possible that it could be dust or hairs inside the mouse body between the button and the switch. I've had some odd double clicks due to this myself and blowing/picking out the dust/hair helped for a while.

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Now playing on Winamp: Johann Sebastian Bach - Violin Concerto No. 2 (Classical Minnesota Public Radio) (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/johann+sebastian+bach/track/violin+concerto+no.+2)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

I think she's already said that she's tried a few other mice.  As for the virus possibility, I don't think it would have these kind of reactions if it was just a registry problem.  If it was a registry problem, the thing likely wouldn't work at all imho.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Malakin on February 24, 2009, 12:39:07 PM
I would suggest two things:

1) if you have a USB port on your keyboard (which works fine right?) try sticking your mouse in that.

2) Completely uninstalling all drivers for your mice, then DLing a new set off the manufacturers website, it could be that you have some how installed several versions of the drivers and they are fighting...
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 24, 2009, 02:02:01 PM
... All of these things are neat and all, but don't you fella's read? She said she wasn't interested.

Now, her hubby, he might have some interest in these suggestions, but Amber? She's on her weekend. Try some other time.


Sheesh.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Mao on February 24, 2009, 02:19:22 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 24, 2009, 02:02:01 PM
... All of these things are neat and all, but don't you fella's read? She said she wasn't interested.

Now, her hubby, he might have some interest in these suggestions, but Amber? She's on her weekend. Try some other time.


Sheesh.

Beyond that, there's a good chance that she's already tried a lot of this stuff.  Y'know.. since she's already said that most of the stuff people have been suggesting she's tried.. and most of the things that have been posted since then are just slight variations or kinda obvious things.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: PinkKitty on February 24, 2009, 03:39:00 PM
You say these things as if expecting people to not suffer the common forum disease of "not reading beyond the first post"... *rolls eyes and sighs* Alas, there will never be a situation where everyone actually takes the time to read through something before replying.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 24, 2009, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: PinkKitty on February 24, 2009, 03:39:00 PM
You say these things as if expecting people to not suffer the common forum disease of "not reading beyond the first post"... *rolls eyes and sighs* Alas, there will never be a situation where everyone actually takes the time to read through something before replying.

No. I say these things instructing people to read beyond the first post.

Or else I'll start revoking the right to post, as per the rules. Mao seems to have caught the subtext, there. Perhaps I should be more explicit? ;-]
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Naldru on February 24, 2009, 04:55:25 PM
Waving non-functioning equipment in front of us geeky nerds is worse than waving a string in front of a kitten.  My daughter claims I can't pass by any piece of broken electronics without trying to fix it.  Because of this, she tries to get me to leave my screwdrivers and wrenches at home when we go out to dinner.  I understand the obsession demonstrated by many readers of the forum.  (I think we also recognize Jyrras as one of us.  When I look at him, I recognize a fellow ex-member of the high school audio-visual club.)
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 24, 2009, 05:05:45 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 24, 2009, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: PinkKitty on February 24, 2009, 03:39:00 PM
You say these things as if expecting people to not suffer the common forum disease of "not reading beyond the first post"... *rolls eyes and sighs* Alas, there will never be a situation where everyone actually takes the time to read through something before replying.

No. I say these things instructing people to read beyond the first post.

Or else I'll start revoking the right to post, as per the rules. Mao seems to have caught the subtext, there. Perhaps I should be more explicit? ;-]

Maybe some provision is needed to tell people not to post something that's been posted 3 times before by the previous posters in a thread.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Ted Schiller on February 24, 2009, 05:10:32 PM
::Mrs. Williams watches Dire Mouse in the distance and contemplates her next move.  After a taco.::   >:3

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 24, 2009, 05:11:54 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 24, 2009, 05:05:45 PM
Maybe some provision is needed to tell people not to post something that's been posted 3 times before by the previous posters in a thread.

Common sense? That's already listed.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Ted Schiller on February 24, 2009, 05:19:40 PM
Quote from: Naldru on February 24, 2009, 04:55:25 PM
(snip) .... When I look at him, I recognize a fellow ex-member of the high school audio-visual club.)

Didn't help me.   :B  I was a member of the audio-visual club, yet I couldn't successfully make Heathkit's am radio.  The shame.   :cry

I guess I'll just have to settle for being extremely handsome.   :rolleyes

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: PinkKitty on February 24, 2009, 06:30:22 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 24, 2009, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: PinkKitty on February 24, 2009, 03:39:00 PM
You say these things as if expecting people to not suffer the common forum disease of "not reading beyond the first post"... *rolls eyes and sighs* Alas, there will never be a situation where everyone actually takes the time to read through something before replying.

No. I say these things instructing people to read beyond the first post.

Or else I'll start revoking the right to post, as per the rules. Mao seems to have caught the subtext, there. Perhaps I should be more explicit? ;-]
Aye, I know... I was mostly being sarcastic hoping the additional bluntness would help out a bit with the problem, but if you wish for me to be quiet than I shall be.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 24, 2009, 06:53:48 PM
Quote from: PinkKitty on February 24, 2009, 06:30:22 PM
Aye, I know... I was mostly being sarcastic hoping the additional bluntness would help out a bit with the problem, but if you wish for me to be quiet than I shall be.

Ah, I missed the sarcasm. It's hard to read tone on the Internet - I know, because people keep mistaking _mine_. Hence why, when I start throwing my moderator boots around, I like to make sure it's clear what's being said.

How about we both smile and nod, and move on? *grin*
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Mao on February 24, 2009, 07:59:14 PM
I didn't really need to 'get' your subtext, as I was trying to convey the same message with my post before that... though in an unfortunately too subtle attempt.  Next time I'll try to be a bit more clear.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Attic Rat on February 24, 2009, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ted Schiller on February 24, 2009, 05:19:40 PM
Quote from: Naldru on February 24, 2009, 04:55:25 PM
(snip) .... When I look at him, I recognize a fellow ex-member of the high school audio-visual club.)

Didn't help me.   :B  I was a member of the audio-visual club, yet I couldn't successfully make Heathkit's am radio.  The shame.   :cry

I guess I'll just have to settle for being extremely handsome.   :rolleyes

With regards,
Ted

How tragic! I was not a member of any such club, yet I not only built a Heathkit AM radio, but modified it to run on a 9v battery during power outages. Ah, well...
Oddly enough, the employees using two of the Windows-XP-based workstations at my undisclosed place of employment have complained of their mouse being both deceased and inexplicably unresponsive to first-aid. Maybe it's something going around?
When I checked them out, the mice seemed healthy and even vigorous, but perhaps mice simply love me.
:boogie

It's all part of my plan to Take Over The World.
Egad!
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Pagan on February 24, 2009, 10:53:46 PM
How does being good with computer mice lead to or help lead to world domination?
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: AmigaDragon on February 25, 2009, 03:47:23 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 24, 2009, 05:11:54 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 24, 2009, 05:05:45 PM
Maybe some provision is needed to tell people not to post something that's been posted 3 times before by the previous posters in a thread.

Common sense? That's already listed.

Does common sense even exist any more? I see so much in the world these days that seems to indicate it doesn't (just look at the Darwin Awards). :zombiekun2

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Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: LionHeart on February 25, 2009, 12:51:53 PM
The Darwin Awards are about people increasing the average intelligence of the human gene pool...
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on February 25, 2009, 01:24:48 PM
Quote from: LionHeart on February 25, 2009, 12:51:53 PM
The Darwin Awards are about people increasing the average intelligence of the human gene pool...


By cutting out the bottom.......... I.e. the ones with no common sense.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tiger_T on February 25, 2009, 01:54:42 PM
Quote from: Attic Rat on February 24, 2009, 10:37:36 PM

It's all part of my plan to Take Over The World.
Egad!

Say Brain, what are we going to do tonight? :tongue


@ Amber:
Have you tried waving a dead chicken over your mouse yet? :rolleyes

PS: Sorry to hear of your troubles. Good luck with solving the problem. :3
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Ted Schiller on February 25, 2009, 02:42:48 PM
Quote from: Tiger_T on February 25, 2009, 01:54:42 PM
(snip)
@ Amber:
Have you tried waving a dead chicken over your mouse yet? :rolleyes

(snip)

Popeye or KFC?

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: SuaveIV on February 26, 2009, 01:06:41 AM
Has NO ONE ever heard of Lee's or El Pollo Loco?

Sheesh, good chicken is such a rarity nowadays...
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Attic Rat on February 26, 2009, 02:17:13 AM
Quote from: Tiger_T on February 25, 2009, 01:54:42 PM
Quote from: Attic Rat on February 24, 2009, 10:37:36 PM

It's all part of my plan to Take Over The World.
Egad!

Say Brain, what are we going to do tonight? :tongue


@ Amber:
Have you tried waving a dead chicken over your mouse yet? :rolleyes

PS: Sorry to hear of your troubles. Good luck with solving the problem. :3

Are you pondering what I'm pondering, Pinky?

My computer's chips are bipolar.
My keyboard's depressed.
I waved the dead chicken,
And I tried all the rest.

I sent it to be schooled,
in that very hour.
I stuffed it with steel wool,
and turned on the power.
:mwaha

Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Madd the Sane on February 26, 2009, 02:38:56 AM
Short of a system reinstall or moving to the Mac, I have no advice. :B  You could try booting from a Linux LiveCD and see if it's a hardware issue (I highly doubt it).
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Turnsky on February 26, 2009, 02:55:13 AM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on February 26, 2009, 02:38:56 AM
Short of a system reinstall or moving to the Mac, I have no advice. :B  You could try booting from a Linux LiveCD and see if it's a hardware issue (I highly doubt it).

Mac would mean expense.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: kangaroo on February 26, 2009, 05:39:19 AM
I have had windows bork up mice b4. One was wireless and only acted up during high Processor loads, was fixed which the drivers, outer was a laptop which just randomly decided what part of the tuchpad was going to work when it wanted to, fixed by reinstalling windows reinstalling the drivers didn't work for whatever reason. Since everthing elce more or less has already bean tryed may wana try redoing the usb drivers on the system? Thogh as mentiond b4 It may be worth trying a live cd of some sort and just seeing if the problem persists in it. As for firefox have u tryed uninstalling it then deleting the firefox folder in C:\Documents and Settings\"your user name here"\Application Data\Mozilla  and then reinstall it? You may wanna backup your bookmarks b4 u do that though.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tapewolf on February 26, 2009, 05:42:14 AM
If the rant on the comic (and what llearch is saying above) is anything to go by, technical advice is not especially welcome at the moment.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Turnsky on February 26, 2009, 05:56:18 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 26, 2009, 05:42:14 AM
If the rant on the comic (and what llearch is saying above) is anything to go by, technical advice is not especially welcome at the moment.
"did you do this?"
"done it"
"did you try that?"
"tried it"
"what about this?"
"yep, tried that too"
</lather, rinse, repeat>

it's frustrating, truth be told.
Suggesting trying/purchasing entirely new Systems/OS's are about as helpful as an extra toe to Amber, especially the purchasing part.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tapewolf on February 26, 2009, 06:08:14 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on February 26, 2009, 05:56:18 AM
Suggesting trying/purchasing entirely new Systems/OS's are about as helpful as an extra toe to Amber, especially the purchasing part.

I dunno... if he's willing to send her a shiny new mac, I doubt she'd say no.


**EDIT**
Actually, the Mac can't do the Lovecraft's Diary font she uses for runes and other languages so it might not be as cut-and-dried as that.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Jairus on February 26, 2009, 11:22:33 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 26, 2009, 06:08:14 AM
Actually, the Mac can't do the Lovecraft's Diary font she uses for runes and other languages so it might not be as cut-and-dried as that.
Really? Dang. And I was kinda hoping to find that font some day. Oh well, someone will eventually create one for a Mac to use. I'm not giving up my MacBook for a font, though. *hugs macbook*
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tapewolf on February 26, 2009, 11:57:15 AM
Quote from: Jairus on February 26, 2009, 11:22:33 AM
Really? Dang. And I was kinda hoping to find that font some day. Oh well, someone will eventually create one for a Mac to use. I'm not giving up my MacBook for a font, though. *hugs macbook*

The Lovecraft font has a structural error in it which Windows ignores but the Mac barfs over.  In PF I did this by rendering the text in GIMP (which uses the X11 font engine) and incorporating it in the background instead of as part of the dialogue.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Ted Schiller on February 26, 2009, 12:30:31 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 26, 2009, 05:42:14 AM
If the rant on the comic (and what llearch is saying above) is anything to go by, technical advice is not especially welcome at the moment.

Not even if it involves explosives?   :mowhappy

Nip Todd and Norman Gates, Computer Service our specialty.

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Hanii Puppy on February 26, 2009, 03:21:41 PM
argh, nevermind, sorry. I read through the topic, but upon reading another topic I found my post to be obsolete.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tiger_T on February 26, 2009, 05:51:45 PM
Hmm. In her rant she didn't mention altering the mouse button properties, and I don't know how these settings would have changed by itself, or if trying to change them would help any - but there you have it. One more (useless?) suggestion. :rolleyes


If it's just the mouse buttons...
Would 'keyboard-mouse-button-pressing' be a practical workaround for the time being?
e.g.: Activating the keyboard mouse (on the numeric keypad), then only using the regular mouse to move the cursor - and using the numeric keypad for the button-pressing part.
([5] = click / [+] = doubleclick / [-] + [5] = rightclick* / [Ins] = holding down the mousebutton / [Del] = releasing the mousebutton)
*press [รท] to switch back to normal 'click' after a 'rightclick'


*shrugs*
Hey, I'm just adding to the colorful collection in this thread.
Please ignore me if you tried this already or don't want to. :3
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Naldru on February 26, 2009, 09:03:14 PM
Just be glad her mouse has moved from FUBAR to SNAFU.  At this point, I think that any suggestions, no matter how well intentioned, would result in further aggravation for Amber.  Further aggravation for Amber might delay our reading her wonderful series, and would thus risk antagonizing her horde of fanatical followers.

I might also add that a statement that I am about to try fixing the computer causes my wife and daughter to flee from the house in panic.  Trying to fix problems in a media such as this is even more annoying and exasperating.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: rt on February 27, 2009, 10:06:56 AM
I've gotta hand it to Amber, wearing out two mice is an accomplishment. I've managed to wear out one mouse button, and that took many many many years. I'm not sure if Ive burnt out a laser diode too, more likely the mouse took one too many bungie coard jumps off the computer table.

So mmm congradulations ?

Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: AmigaDragon on February 27, 2009, 12:27:08 PM
She didn't say she wore them out, her OS had a stroke or something. What do you expect from Windows?
Title: RANT'O UPDATE March 20, 2009 Was: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Ted Schiller on March 20, 2009, 10:06:11 PM
Quote from: Jairus on February 23, 2009, 02:18:14 AM
Quote from: Ted Schiller on February 23, 2009, 01:14:32 AM
Dire Mouse (he's amazing. he's fantastic.) has saved Regina.  Yay, Dire Mouse.   :mwaha

With regards,
Ted
All he has done is prolong the inevitable. Regina's fate approaches still...
Concerning Edit Note 9:17PM on a Friday Evening:
Now the whole house is fighting back.  Regina will be saved.  ;)

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: RANT'O UPDATE March 20, 2009 Was: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Turnsky on March 20, 2009, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: Ted Schiller on March 20, 2009, 10:06:11 PM
Quote from: Jairus on February 23, 2009, 02:18:14 AM
Quote from: Ted Schiller on February 23, 2009, 01:14:32 AM
Dire Mouse (he's amazing. he's fantastic.) has saved Regina.  Yay, Dire Mouse.   :mwaha

With regards,
Ted
All he has done is prolong the inevitable. Regina's fate approaches still...
Concerning Edit Note 9:17PM on a Friday Evening:
Now the whole house is fighting back.  Regina will be saved.  ;)

With regards,
Ted

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please keep an eye on the last post, generally posting in a thread that hasn't seen activity for nearly a month or more is frowned upon.
you coulda just posted in the relevant DMFA comic topic, y'know.
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Attic Rat on March 21, 2009, 12:17:01 AM
Well, drat and feldercarb!
I put several seconds worth of idle effort into my little poem, and nobody liked it!
Worse yet, nobody vomited.

Ah, well...
Title: Re: RANT'O UPDATE March 20, 2009 Was: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: Tapewolf on March 21, 2009, 07:05:40 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on March 20, 2009, 10:23:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/necrothreadbrains.jpg)

That may be a bit harsh for an official smiley but I have seen a few people who need it at times.  (Sometimes even me)
Title: Re: RANT'O UPDATE March 20, 2009 Was: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: techmaster-glitch on March 21, 2009, 01:42:57 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 21, 2009, 07:05:40 AM
That may be a bit harsh for an official smiley but I have seen a few people who need it at times.  (Sometimes even me)
I vote for it ~_^
Title: Re: I am a technological black hole!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 22, 2009, 06:58:40 AM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on March 21, 2009, 01:42:57 PM
I vote for it ~_^

You need to pay attention.