Ooooo-kayyyyyy...
Sea kittens (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99249669)
Does this mean we should start throwing kittens into the ocean where they belong? >:3
No, you should start eating them filleted with a side of tarter.
The PETA people appear to have overlooked something:
Cats EAT fish.
Does that make them cannibals?
The first thing that came to mind after reading "sea-kittens" was "tiger shark". somehow, I don't think that this campaing is going anywhere....
Wow. Just wow. All I have to say is this girl is awesome:
Quote"I don't see fish as sea kittens; I see them as food," says 12-year-old Chastity Haskins.
:januscat
For the record, here are two actual animal rights organizations:
http://www.aspca.org
http://www.hsus.org/
(SPCA, International was, in the past, a front for a troubled SPCA in Montreal--I don't know who they are today)
Great. Now children will be convinced that kittens can swim and it'll be okay to drown unwanted kittens again. Those "cat-fish" actually look kinda creepy....
... Facepalm* shortly followed by >.< + facepalm*
Quote from: Basilisk2150 on January 14, 2009, 09:50:52 PM... Facepalm* shortly followed by >.< + facepalm*
I find this useful for such situations:
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/superluser/facedrill.jpg)
odd I never saw the connection between red asphalt and fishing (or anything lethal for that matter), although I suppose if some one pierced me with a hook or something and then attached me to a kite and dragged me though the air it would hurt, unfortunately I can't say it would be as painful as being dragged across the road behind somebody's car... such violent minds, I suppose if you want someone to be a vegetarian it would be those who contemplate all the horrors of humanity and ignore all the virtues.
"i think ill eat some sea kittens tonight" QFT
does that mean we can go to our local takeaway and order some seakitten and chips for four bucks? :U
hope so, i loves me some good sea kitten and chips.
Mmmm gonna have to put together a seakitten fry. :3
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on January 15, 2009, 09:39:45 AM
Mmmm gonna have to put together a seakitten fry. :3
Why stop with sea-kittens?
Yeah, I wonder what kind of cutesy name they'll end up putting on crawfish and shrimp. I can just hear the cajuns now. "They wanna rename 'em to what???"
I would so eat cat if it was prepared right. :U
Then again I find most meat once its been properly cut and packaged looks about the same and would probably eat just about any animal if the sanitation was up to standard.
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 15, 2009, 11:33:25 AM
I would so eat cat if it was prepared right. :U
Then again I find most meat once its been properly cut and packaged looks about the same and would probably eat just about any animal if the sanitation was up to standard.
Saw a video not too long ago that demonstrated just this. The entire process and preparation of rat meat, served as chicken, from catching to the butchering to the disguising and preparation process, and the serving in a delicious teriyaki sauce.
I don't know if I'd eat rat. I suppose if I was hungry enough, though, anything would start to sound appetizing.
I always reason meat is meat if its guaranteed not to be infested with parasites and illnesses. To me its only a matter of preparation. I dont have any real taboo about species, but I care more about sanitation and preparation. I'd much rather eat properly raised and prepared rat than beef from an unsanitary source.
Goddamn Furries.
... No, really, I've got logic behind this one.
Look, I already think fish are adorable. I visit the Georgia Aquarium on a regular basis (or at least I did while I still had an annual pass). Cuttlefish couldn't be cuter than they are in real life, even though they don't exactly make the transition to plush very well. Fish are great pets for children of all ages (betta especially, since they're so flexible on environment requirements).
I don't need PETA or anyone else telling me that fish aren't "cute enough" just because we're clearly willing to eat them, and I certainly don't need them thinking the solution is to make them furry and fluffy instead. I will not stand for this oppression of aquatic creations by the kitten-loving, fur-centric fascists!
Stand up for Aquatic rights! Kill a kitten today! >:3
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on January 15, 2009, 12:29:29 PM
Stand up for Aquatic rights! Kill a kitten today! >:3
Actually, that's what I meant by "Why stop at sea-kittens?"...
Ha, so what's next- birds becoming sky doggies!
Quote from: Kipiru on January 15, 2009, 12:53:30 PM
Ha, so what's next- birds becoming sky doggies!
If it makes them taste better, sure, I could go for that.
I find a good sauce usually works better, though...
You know... I really like the approach the kids had to the P.E.T.A. website. Their reactions were straight forward and honest. Most adults would dance about the issue a bit and try and use 'tact' but the kids just came right out with it. Man.. I wish I was 11 again.
What irritates me is that PETA apperantly did negative levels of research on this, and probably blew millions of dollars that were donated to it by people under the false impression they use donations to save orphaned pets
the following statement on this article is false
Quote"Fish not only have the same ability to feel pain as a dog or a cat, but they also communicate with one another," she says. "They have complex social interactions; they form bonds; they express affection by gently rubbing against one another."
now, the statement above would be true if they were talking about dolphins, but as anyone above third grade can tell you dolphins are NOT fish. actual fish cannot feel pain, and their 'complex social interactions' consist of 'Is this something to 1- eat 2- mate with 3-swim away from in fear Q- rock. oh yeah, a good way to tell they have no affection either is its frighteningly common for them to eat the young of their own species
Hrm. I know people who divide things into categories A, B, C, and D, as well...
Fish can actually use the 1 to eating babies hunger scale without fear of incrimination from the rest of society... see they've already got a social structure far more advanced than our own
/sarcasm... and a plead for whoever came up with this idea to /wrists
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 15, 2009, 11:33:25 AMI would so eat cat if it was prepared right. :U
:boggle
I would never eat cat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasma_gondii). (actually, now that I look, proper preparation might change my mind)
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on January 15, 2009, 12:29:29 PM
Goddamn Furries.
... No, really, I've got logic behind this one.
Look, I already think fish are adorable. I visit the Georgia Aquarium on a regular basis (or at least I did while I still had an annual pass). Cuttlefish couldn't be cuter than they are in real life, even though they don't exactly make the transition to plush very well. Fish are great pets for children of all ages (betta especially, since they're so flexible on environment requirements).
I don't need PETA or anyone else telling me that fish aren't "cute enough" just because we're clearly willing to eat them, and I certainly don't need them thinking the solution is to make them furry and fluffy instead. I will not stand for this oppression of aquatic creations by the kitten-loving, fur-centric fascists!
Stand up for Aquatic rights! Kill a kitten today! >:3
So should the fandom change its name to "Scalies"?
scalies is the common term for, dinosaur, dragon, lizard, snake, and generaly all herp artwork... I think it originated from dinotopia, and it appears to be a subcategory for furries.
PETA trying to make fish cute as a joke to raise awareness is SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS.
Quote from: superluser on January 14, 2009, 07:24:35 PM
For the record, here are two actual animal rights organizations:
http://www.aspca.org
http://www.hsus.org/
(SPCA, International was, in the past, a front for a troubled SPCA in Montreal--I don't know who they are today)
Obviously you haven't consulted
the astroturfers your libertarian buddies at the Center for Consumer Freedom because HSUS is as bad as PETA! In fact, they're worse because at least PETA does
something for the animals. HSUS doesn't actually do anything! Whatever money HSUS has left over after paying for advertising and terrorism goes straight into their pockets! Non-profit indeed! Multiple exclamation points!!!
It gets worse.
PETA: Change school name to cuddly Sea Kitten High (http://www.helenair.com/articles/2009/01/10/state/101st_090110_peta.txt)
PETA Asks University To Change Mascot Name; Letter To President Urges School To Change Sailfish Mascot To Sea Kitten (http://www.wesh.com/news/18482335/detail.html)
Yeah...
Awww...how cute. I was wondering how long it would take for PETA to turn this into a full blown publicity stunt to try to get more attention. :3
PETA is kind of like the Phelps and Jack Thomspon, they need the attention of others and the news media to survive. It must be nice to be able to just flail around and know that even if everyone thinks you are being foolish, that all the worlds paying attention to you and even the worst publicity still means your name and group is getting recognition.
The fact that this board is now turning into PETA gossip central only proves this fact.
The inevitable: The Penn and Teller show about PETA (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8966505DED227EA4&playnext=1&v=DsHUBEfBNMo). (not safe for work, mainly language, probably some gore, too. I haven't seen it in a while)
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 15, 2009, 11:11:57 PM
Awww...how cute. I was wondering how long it would take for PETA to turn this into a full blown publicity stunt to try to get more attention. :3
PETA is kind of like the Phelps and Jack Thomspon, they need the attention of others and the news media to survive. It must be nice to be able to just flail around and know that even if everyone thinks you are being foolish, that all the worlds paying attention to you and even the worst publicity still means your name and group is getting recognition.
The fact that this board is now turning into PETA gossip central only proves this fact.
Activists need to stay in the media to have their agenda heard? Amazing.
PETA has an agenda. Most people who care know what it is: the good, the bad and the batshit insane.
PETA's critics also have an agenda. They just pretend like they don't and refuse to disclose any conflicts of interests.
Quote from: superluser on January 15, 2009, 11:29:59 PM
The inevitable: The Penn and Teller show about PETA (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8966505DED227EA4&playnext=1&v=DsHUBEfBNMo). (not safe for work, mainly language, probably some gore, too. I haven't seen it in a while)
Penn and Teller are members of the Cato Institute. What exactly would you expect them to say about any left wing group? They also think that recycling is a scam, that smoking is good for you and they hate religion (lol, hyperbole).
That's pretty much what one would expect from a libertarian who believes in a person taking responsibility for their own actions. If we did, then recycling, smoking and human/animal rights wouldn't be an issue and religion would just fade away.
Quote from: Kasarn on January 16, 2009, 12:04:02 AMActivists need to stay in the media to have their agenda heard? Amazing.
PETA has an agenda. Most people who care know what it is: the good, the bad and the batshit insane.
PETA's critics also have an agenda. They just pretend like they don't and refuse to disclose any conflicts of interests.
Who pissed in your Cheerios?
No offense, but you seem to be taking this extremely personally. I think we know that a lot of the anti-PETA people are just as nutty (if not nuttier) than PETA. The Penn&Teller thing quotes, inter alia, Dennis Prager (yes (http://townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2008/12/30/when_a_woman_isnt_in_the_mood_part_ii?page=full&comments=true), that (http://jewishworldreview.com/0702/prager071702.asp) Dennis (http://townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=the_rape_of_a_name_is_also_rape&ns=DennisPrager&dt=06/26/2007&page=full&comments=true) Prager (http://www.sadlyno.com/index.php?s=prager)), who is not the most sterling example of intelligent thought.
But PETA is certainly doing bad things. We can see that, regardless of the people making accusations. Regardless, PETA is not actually interested in doing anything to help animals. Their money goes to things like lawsuits claiming that cows aren't happy (http://www.usatoday.com/money/advertising/2003-03-26-happy-cows_x.htm). The sea kitten thing will probably devolve into PETA filing frivolous lawsuits soon. They are a bunch of idiots who just happen to be well heeled and enjoy publicity that drives money away from the issues that they pretend (I assume that they pretend--the other option is that they are insane and think that such suits have a chance of winning) that they actually care about.
I don't exactly know why you have such hate for the Humane Society. Actually, I would be very interested in hearing why you claim that they are terrorists.
EDIT: Actually, it looks like I might have been wrong about HSUS. Like I said, please convince me. I've been wrong before.
lol. You didn't look up the Center for Consumer Freedom, did you?
My point is that a lot of information about PETA (edit: and HSUS) comes from the CCF and they are basically an astroturfing group.
I could never eat a cat. I've known too many that were very affectionate with gentle dispositions and my current cat Lucky is a prime example of how high their intelligence can go in individual animals (of all of them, he's the only one who demonstrates a recognition of self in a mirror) and I've had a number of them. And as far as lions and tigers, not only am I very fond of them, and there's the fact that they're being wiped out as it is, but so far the only reasons anyone can give me for eating their meat is either for some bizzare belief in their magical properties or as some chest-thumping nonsense to prove they are superior to the big carnivores (in which case, should I prove my superiority to such people by killing and eating them? I mean, if that's all it takes, I could get rid of alot of inferior people that way.)
I also could not eat a dolphin, or a gorilla, or a chimpanzee (getting a wee bit close to cannibalism there, regardless. Once yer 99.6% of the way there genetically, why not go the remaining 0.4%?), or an elephant, or a grey parrot because those animals have scientifically demonstrated self-awareness in the mirror recognition test. Their intelligence approaches too close to the line of basic human level for comfort. Whales also demonstrate higher intelligence, especially orcas and humpback whales, so they are also off the menu.
Other things I won't eat simply because to me they are gross. Like molluscs. They stink and look disgusting. Never... going... to eat... EVER! And then there are other meats that I would eat, but they are expensive and I see no reason to waste my money for high-priced food that I'm just going to crap out the next day. Give me alot and make it cheap! I don't go into that whole 'delicacy' and 'status' nonsense. Frankly, I think much of that is some kind of delusion. I mean, caviar... it's heavily salted fish eggs. I've seen it close up. It looked and smelled even worse than molluscs.
I think lobsters are a perfect axample of this delusion. Long ago, they were considered a waste product of fishing. A pest, essentially. They were fed to cheap labor in the fishing industry. There was actually a law stating that you could only feed your employees so much of it. And then someone got the bright idea to call this large sea-bug a 'delicacy'. And suddenly people couldn't get enough of it. It's still just a big bug to me.
Then there are the certain Cantonese delicacies I mentioned a long time ago, such as "Three Scream Mice". These are the kinds of things I must label as animal cruelty. One involves a live donkey being tied by its four legs, and then having boiling water poured over its legs until its flesh begins to fall off. Another involves a monkey having its head cut open while alive and its brain is eaten. Those animals clearly CAN feel pain, and ARE feeling pain as they scream throughout the process until they die. These are the sorts of things I'd expect from a not-quite-yet-but-soon-to-be-cannibalistic Hannibal Lecter.
Simply put, I do not wish anything that I eat to suffer. All creatures must eat, and to eat something else must die, be it animal or plant. But I, as a being with the knowledge that other things are also alive and that some have the capacity for suffering, must do all in my power to ensure that what I eat is not made to suffer unduly. To do any less would be an insult to the intelligence and capacity for compassion and empathy of which my highly advanced brain is capable. Simply because lower animals may kill prey in savage ways does not mean I should lower myself to their level.
I would eat deer, but I'd have to go hunting, and it takes too much time. And deer, as tame and friensly as they can be sometimes, are quite stupid no matter how you look at it.
And as for other meats I've tried, goose looks very oily and smells odd. I've had duck, it's kinda meh.
So I mainly stick to chicken, beef, and turkey. No pork for religious reasons (mainly) and secondarily because I've had it twice accidently because it was in something... and the taste let me know something was off immediately. It tastes very strange to me. I just don't like it.
If other people want to eat snakes and crocodiles, be my guest but don't ever think you'll get me to try it!
And Mab, if you eat a lion... I will have to harm you. There will be no choice; it's a matter of honor. >:3
PS: PETA is more interested in making sure people can never own pets and everyone on earth becomes vegan than doing anything useful.
I dont really care for eating carnivores...mainly cause most literature tends to indicate they dont taste all that good. And really, I dont like the idea of eating any animal that is struggling to survive as is. I'd much rather nom on the more plentiful things and leave the more exotic things to try to keep themselves around.
Really if you ever want to see me throw tizzies in the world, mentioning how some people are slaughtering an endangered critter in order to grind it up for aphrodesiacs is a pretty speedy way.
Though I admit...I do make exception to pandas. Cause OH HOLY HELL pandas. Just let them freaking die out. D: I swear they have like...zero survival abilities and the only reason they are still around is because they are a country's mascot and people think they are cute. Ugh...seriously.
I have had deer...its pretty decent. I enjoy most meats I have eaten simply for their individual sake...not because I feel they have prestige or any real class to them. I have had lobster and I have eaten groundhog, I've eaten insects and I have eaten rabbit...odds are if there wasn't legal or health repurcussions I would try just about anything once. I swear if mammoths were still alive I would likely try to eat one of those. :U
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 16, 2009, 01:20:07 AM
I dont really care for eating carnivores...mainly cause most literature tends to indicate they dont taste all that good.
we eat shark, here. >:3
Quote from: superluser on January 15, 2009, 11:29:59 PM
The inevitable: The Penn and Teller show about PETA (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8966505DED227EA4&playnext=1&v=DsHUBEfBNMo). (not safe for work, mainly language, probably some gore, too. I haven't seen it in a while)
Thanks for that link, I know someone who will also find taht show interesting.
On another forum I'm part of, we've had discussions about the eating of cats in China and this stunt by PETA, and one of the things that came up (in the thread about China) is that eating other carnivores can be a vector for disease. I think it's a problem that could be avoided by proper care and sanitation in raising cats, like with a cat farm of some sort (similar to how properly raised pigs will have a low likelyhood of bearing parasites harmful to humans. Of course, there's a problem with pet napping and feral cats taken from the streets being used in China... you really wouldn't know where it's coming from.) I don't think I could ever eat cat meat unless I knew I could be as sure with it as I am with the other meat I eat that I'm not going to get sick from eating it.
Quote from: Kasarn on January 16, 2009, 01:05:41 AMMy point is that a lot of information about PETA (edit: and HSUS) comes from the CCF and they are basically an astroturfing group.
Are they the ones behind petakillsanimals.com?
If so, then I looked them up a long time ago, before I forwarded that URL. Yeah, they're a bunch of astroturfing dips (my uncensored opinion of them can prove what a true vulgarian I am), but I knew PETA was a bunch of jerks before I encountered these people. I knew that by reading PETA's own words.
But let's look at some independent sources:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0725/p11s02-lire.html
http://www.newsweek.com/id/134549/
PETA is killing animals, and while that's not necessarily a bad or immoral thing, it is an extremely hypocritical thing for them to do.
You're just trying to poison the well. I know where my information comes from, and I know how to separate fact from fiction. I think the parties on both sides of the PETA debate are muppets, and I just want to point out that there are actual good organizations out there, like the ASPCA (and the RSPCA for those of you on the other side of the pond).
Quote from: Reese Tora on January 16, 2009, 02:41:01 AMOn another forum I'm part of, we've had discussions about the eating of cats in China and this stunt by PETA, and one of the things that came up (in the thread about China) is that eating other carnivores can be a vector for disease.
Very good point.
My nephew use to have two goldfish... A black one, and an orange/black tipped one... The black one stole all the food, so the orange one died (which was sad because it was awesome looking!). Then, my nephew, being the cute little 2 year old he was, said "Won't Blacky---(he was also very creative!)---be lonely without his friend?" So, my mother went back to the pet store and bought two small silver fish to "play" with the goldfish. I woke up for school one day, and the gold fish had decapitated one of the silver fish, and was working on the second (and let me tell you, the thing was still alive because it was twitching...)!
So yeah, lady. Real compassionate.
But! On a side note! Loot at my cute little sea kitten!
(http://i43.tinypic.com/4tu5gz.jpg)
Quote from: Elieana on January 16, 2009, 02:47:08 AMBut! On a side note! Loot at my cute little sea kitten!
(http://i43.tinypic.com/4tu5gz.jpg)
In my life, I have stumbled on two nearly universal truths:
1.) Pie does not have tentacles
2.) Sea kittens do not have unicorn horns.
Seriously, that thing's about as anatomically correct as this fellow:
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/spyke678/lolwut5B15D.jpg)
Quote from: superluser on January 16, 2009, 03:00:46 AM
2.) Sea kittens do not have unicorn horns.
My parents always said I could be anything I wanted to be... So I chose to be God.
SO I CAN MAKE UNICORN-SEA-KITTENS D:
Quote from: Elieana on January 16, 2009, 03:06:38 AMMy parents always said I could be anything I wanted to be... So I chose to be God.
SO I CAN MAKE UNICORN-SEA-KITTENS D:
That's fine, but what message does PETA send when the only way to make fish cute is by pretending that they're something that they aren't?
Quote from: superluser on January 16, 2009, 03:58:23 AM
That's fine, but what message does PETA send when the only way to make fish cute is by pretending that they're something that they aren't?
Good point. Well, in my honest opinion all of these little "groups" of people fighting for these rights and those rights have become more of a "dividing the people" with different beliefs instead of the original idea of "equality".
Quote from: superluser on January 16, 2009, 03:00:46 AM
Seriously, that thing's about as anatomically correct as this fellow:
[/img]http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/spyke678/lolwut5B15D.jpg[/img]
You just hatin' on Ursula Vernon. :E
All I can say about sea kittens is this..FINGER LICKIN' GEWD!!!
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 16, 2009, 01:20:07 AM
Though I admit...I do make exception to pandas. Cause OH HOLY HELL pandas. Just let them freaking die out. D: I swear they have like...zero survival abilities and the only reason they are still around is because they are a country's mascot and people think they are cute. Ugh...seriously.
A Wisconsin radio show host actually had a brilliant idea that suits this thread perfectly, it was thus
To save the panda, we must eat the panda
make sense? the philosophy was once the American public acquire a taste for a food they will not let hell nor high water deprive them of it. panda aphrodisiacs and breeding programs would make them the equivalent of the turkey, which has about the same survival skills anyways. example, do you think for a moment that the chicken will ever become endangered? i think not, we love shoving it down our throats far too much to ever let them die.
i am almost tempted to state all the various animals ive eatten, leaving out which ones were roadkill or not, but the list would probably not reflect that well on me
oh yes, side note- for most of my life ive wondered if penguin tastes like chicken or fish. i then one day met a person who ate some by accident, was abhorred by it, and admit it tasted 'like fishy chicken'
for further reference beaver tastes like honey ham and raccoons taste like feet....
The problem with the 'no survival skills' argument is that the panda was surviving quite well until people destroyed most of its habitat.
There are thousands of endangered species in exactly the same predicaiment. Gorillas are a perfect example. Outside of their normal habitat, they'll die without intense human supervision.
We shouldn't condemn an animal to either extinction or becoming part of our food supply simply because we've irresponsibly bulldozed where they live.
Now we have the exact opposite problem in NJ with deer and Canada geese. They are super-adaptors, able to survive on almost any non-poisonous plants. Also, they have benefited from the almost complete elimination of natural predators. They have spread and multiplied to the point where they're actually causing destruction of the forest and water ecosystems. The deer wipe out large swaths of forest understory and prevent young trees from ever getting a foothold. Their numbers now exceed those estimated in early Colonial days! Save a tree... slaughter Bambi. :mwaha And the geese... HAVE YOU EVER SEN HOW MUCH POOP THOSE DAMN THINGS LEAVE ON BEACHES!!! >:O
This is a case where getting people interesting in eating more of them is the best choice, other than reintroducing large predators such as cougars and wolves... which is never going to happen because they'd start eating children... and people have a problem with that for some reason... >:3
You know, we eat alligator down here (tastes like chicken, seriously). Actually, we'll eat just about anything down here, if it don't eat us first. It's strange that we don't see much of PETA down here. I'd love to see them try and muck around in the swamps to save the gators. :3
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on January 16, 2009, 10:08:07 AM
You know, we eat alligator down here (tastes like chicken, seriously). Actually, we'll eat just about anything down here, if it don't eat us first. It's strange that we don't see much of PETA down here. I'd love to see them try and muck around in the swamps to save the gators. :3
That'd be a useful way to filter the collection, yes.
Edit:
Actually, get them to wander down to Northern Territories, and save the saltie. Much more effective.
Quote from: Alondro on January 16, 2009, 09:10:11 AM
We shouldn't condemn an animal to either extinction or becoming part of our food supply simply because we've irresponsibly bulldozed where they live.
Nope sorry. Giant pandas should still go extinct. They deserve it. :3
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 16, 2009, 10:24:47 AM
Nope sorry. Giant pandas should still go extinct. They deserve it. :3
I agree. They were a really bad idea.
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 15, 2009, 11:11:57 PM
Awww...how cute. I was wondering how long it would take for PETA to turn this into a full blown publicity stunt to try to get more attention. :3
PETA is kind of like the Phelps and Jack Thomspon, they need the attention of others and the news media to survive. It must be nice to be able to just flail around and know that even if everyone thinks you are being foolish, that all the worlds paying attention to you and even the worst publicity still means your name and group is getting recognition.
The fact that this board is now turning into PETA gossip central only proves this fact.
thank u <3
But seriously, I don't like PETA at all considering the overzealousness, hypocrisy, and foolhardy stunts that draw negative attention to animal rights activists in general. But this Sea Kitten thing just makes me laugh, hard. Dude, most of my favorite animals live underwater, but that's not going to stop me from eating sushi.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 16, 2009, 10:26:24 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 16, 2009, 10:24:47 AM
Nope sorry. Giant pandas should still go extinct. They deserve it. :3
I agree. They were a really bad idea.
I like giant pandas... :<
But every other bear can GO TO HELL god I hate bears they scare the piss out of meeeee.
How 'bout a compromise? We kill the rest of the pandas and we save the captured ones. Those pandas are one of the few bragging rights Atlanta has. I don't want to give that up just yet, regardless of my opinion of the dumb bears.
And the most exotic food I've ever had once lamb once. It was nice.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 16, 2009, 10:39:20 AMBut every other bear can GO TO HELL god I hate bears they scare the piss out of meeeee.
I would definitely recommend not viewing this picture (http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/lookaroundyou/programmes/food/slimmingpicture.jpg), then. It's so scary that they use it as a dietary aid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7tFgIywuvI).
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 16, 2009, 10:39:20 AM
I like giant pandas... :<
But every other bear can GO TO HELL god I hate bears they scare the piss out of meeeee.
Bah. The only thing Giant Pandas have going for them is that they are considered so cute and distinctive people feel the need to preserve them more than anything else.
I fully realize I have a particularly harsh viewpoint coming up and that it is definately a minority opinion so I apologize in advance for people I may possibly offend.
I personally believe in conservation to a rational degree. To me, there is conservation and then there is retarded coservation. Whether or not people will admit it, I feel humanity and its influence on the world and its ecosystem is something that should be factored but not considered foreign. Just because change hasnt taken place over the course of thousands to millions of years...it does not mean that going extinct is something that cannot and should not happen. Species die, environments change, things adapt.
There are some species out there that would continue to thrive without mankinds interference. To them, I say yeah...it is unfair of people to keep stomping them down and pushing them to the limits. Then there are species out there who at this point are only alive because of humanities efforts. In that sense, I view said animals no longer as wild creatures but in how they benefit mankind. Things like chickens...cows...farm raised turkeys...and giant pandas. To me, giant pandas are so dependent on humanity that I view them in the same way that I view the average domesticated cow. Without people, odds are the race would no longer exist at this point.
And unlike cows, pandas. do. nothing. They are a worthless subtype of species only still existing because China made them their mascot and people think they are cute. Even if they were a bustling thrustling species before mankind...the fact of the matter is at this point they are so long gone that only sheer desperation of people keep them alive.
Which is why I am not going to feel at all bad should they go extinct. I find them a useless species that has outlived its time.
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 16, 2009, 01:46:40 PM
Which is why I am not going to feel at all bad should they go extinct. I find them a useless species that has outlived its time.
I feel that way about people, sometimes...
i feel much the same, however what gets my goat (mmmm..... goat) is when they claim this and that is an endangered species- like some special quail which is only different then the common as dirt kind as they have a stripe on their cheek or something else stupid like that
dude, thats NOT an endangered species any more then people with red hair is an endangered species.
polar bears, yeah, those are endangered.
the Hawaiian goose? that's pushing the line.
santa catalina island fox? no, just no, the only difference from the regular survives perfectly with humans kinds of fox is where it lives.
the mount grahm red squirrel? if you think this is endangered i should beat you. sure there's only 300 but its essentially the same damn animal as the red squirrel which is considered a pest in the rest of the country as they invade the territory of grey squirrels and take over by biting the grey squirrels nuts so they cant breed.
next they would say that the Brooklyn twotone rat (real, created when a pet store was damaged during an explosion and captive rats escaped and bred with wild ones) is an endangered species as they are clearly not normal rats, and thus it shall be illegal to put down traps or poison.
people don't really need a cause worth fighting fore, they just want to find a cause to make themselves feel superior to those without causes
I just chuck PETA in with the rest of the crazies I don't like. It's known for containing both the more psychotic environmentalists, global warming nuts, and Stalin. They are, of course, not on the same level, but they're in the same 'crazy people" category.
Capitalism would seriously help all those endangered species we're talking about. Want a tiger pelt? Ask a farmer to breed 'em. Suddenly, they want to keep the bloody things alive. :U
Also: Sea kittens are delicious. Especially with lemon. And I would totally eat a elephant if it was killed quickly. Chimps and other primates are about the only things I won't at least try if it's dressed up right. Too close to cannibalism.
Also, polar bears ARE NOT ENDANGERED. Anyone who actually believes the people saying that needs to be hit with a cattle prod. I'm tired of people believing guys who are being paid to say that the US GEOLOGICAL Survey noting fewer beasties in the area. REAL scientists say they're thriving and nommin' seal like always.
I am more worried that polar bears these days are becoming fire-proof. They already have cold resistance...once they get acid and electricity we are so boned. D:
They aren't robots yet. We can still take them. >:3 We just need the tirger calvary...
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 16, 2009, 05:04:24 PM
I am more worried that polar bears these days are becoming fire-proof. They already have cold resistance...once they get acid and electricity we are so boned. D:
However, they are still vulnerable to physical damage. Also, the relative rarity of Earth-type attacks means that resistance to them is rare.
True. But really...who actually bothers to prepare sonic damage. :U
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 16, 2009, 05:13:19 PM
True. But really...who actually bothers to prepare sonic damage. :U
There is still magical, divine, negative energy... positive energy...
Quote from: The1Kobra on January 16, 2009, 05:14:38 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 16, 2009, 05:13:19 PM
True. But really...who actually bothers to prepare sonic damage. :U
There is still magical, divine, negative energy... positive energy...
Morphing spell's work too. Rarely, but they work. Ooh, poison damage, what about that? And no one ever prepares for Chainsaw Damage...
Really, I tend to use magic as a booster in battle and rely mainly on physical combat.
i will be scared when they develop pointy metal to the face resistance
oh yes, thank you for correcting me- i had actually forgotten that the polar bear population has actually doubled sinse we started recording their numbers. i have bad mammaries
Quote from: Brunhidden on January 16, 2009, 05:26:52 PM
oh yes, thank you for correcting me- i had actually forgotten that the polar bear population has actually doubled sinse we started recording their numbers. i have bad mammaries
... please tell me that that's a typo and you meant "memories?"
Also, I don't think anyone has ever developed Steamroller resistance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbArvIqZzkI).
Quote from: Brunhidden on January 16, 2009, 05:26:52 PM
i have bad mammaries
i lol'd
So tempted to sig this guys... :U
Also, steamrollers are for pansies, nukes are for Overlords of he Evil variety.
Quote from: Robbychu on January 16, 2009, 05:37:59 PM
Also, steamrollers are for pansies, nukes are for Overlords of he Evil variety.
Won't work: polar bears are immune to radiation. It's an evolutionary side-effect of living on the polar ice caps where the sun shines for half of the year. Polar bears and flour beetles will survive any nuclear fallout long after the cockroaches have all died. Physical damage is the only way to kill them and make them stay dead. Otherwise they revive as Polar Zombears.
But then all we need is a Pheonix Down because everyone knows that Revive Kills Zombie!
Not always... What if it misses?
Quote from: Jairus on January 16, 2009, 05:45:56 PM
Physical damage is the only way to kill them and make them stay dead. Otherwise they revive as Polar Zombears.
I agree with this one. Physical damage works the best, escpecialy rending weapons such as saws and jagged melee weapons and perhaps Dillon machine gun. This will work if the polar bear has only low armor AND isn't a shaman type.
...because then they got physical resistance. Only way to kill those is to go to spirit world and slay their souls, which will work only temporally
Wormhole weapons solve all problems.
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 16, 2009, 05:04:24 PM
I am more worried that polar bears these days are becoming fire-proof. They already have cold resistance...once they get acid and electricity we are so boned. D:
Forget about the polar bears, Amber. What we should really be worrying about are the
BearSharks. (http://www.wikiality.com/BearSharks)
(fuck I love Wikiality)
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 19, 2009, 03:10:15 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 16, 2009, 05:04:24 PM
I am more worried that polar bears these days are becoming fire-proof. They already have cold resistance...once they get acid and electricity we are so boned. D:
Forget about the polar bears, Amber. What we should really be worrying about are the BearSharks. (http://www.wikiality.com/BearSharks)
(fuck I love Wikiality)
Pyro BearSharks!
Run! D:
But again, they are vulnerable to physical damage... I wonder where the Mythbusters got that minigun they used to test the Shooting Fish in a Barrel Myth?
Quote from: Jairus on January 19, 2009, 03:14:48 PM
I wonder where the Mythbusters got that minigun
That gun is Dillon M134D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s77T7UGIzrY), as I mentioned a while ago.
Quote from: Omega on January 19, 2009, 03:29:59 PMQuote from: Jairus on January 19, 2009, 03:14:48 PMI wonder where the Mythbusters got that minigun
That gun is Dillon M134D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s77T7UGIzrY), as I mentioned a while ago.
No, he wonders *where*, not *what*.
My guess?
Secret Service (http://jalopnik.com/5134488/presidential-gatling-gun+equipped-suburban-badder-than-new-cadillac-limo)