THE DMFA RADIO PROJECT
The DMFA Radio Project is a (wholly unofficial) audio play adaptation of everyone's favourite webcomic by Amber M. Williams (nee Panyko). It features the voice work of many talented DMFA forumites and an awesome original soundtrack by J P Morris. We started nearly two years ago and are still going strong!
The original thread (all 1200+ posts!) lives here (http://nice.llearch.net/dmfa_forum1967.htm) on llearch's mirror of the old Nice forums.
Want to hear us? Check out Daniel Ti'Fiona, Warrior for Hire (http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/dt_wfh.mp3) (25 MB, 22 minute MP3). You can find it and many works in progress on J P Morris's web site (http://dmfa.it-he.org/). He also has a HOWTO (http://dmfa.it-he.org/howto.htm) with tips on recording for the project.
James StarRunner's site (http://www.crystaltopia.com/DMFA%20stuff.htm) mirrors many of the files. It also contains a (nearly) complete cast list. That's the place to go if you're interested in helping out. Most of the main characters have already been cast, but your voice can still be immortalized in one of the many, many minor roles, and we do occasionally need to replace actors who have, for whatever reason, dropped out of the project.
Text versions of the script are available on llearch's site (http://www.llearch.net/radio/).
LATEST NEWS/UPDATES
May 2, 2007
Finally fixed the links to the old forum thread and script files. See? I told you I fail at updating. :animesweat
Hmm... nice place. It could use a bit of redecorating, though, and maybe some comfy old threads to make it feel more like home. ;) I wasn't quite sure whether this thread belonged here or in that Tower of Art thingy. I suppose the admins could always move it if necessary.
Anyone have suggestions on how best to preserve the original thread? Cutting and pasting it here seems a bit silly--I doubt we want to inflict a multi-megabyte load on anyone visiting this thread. Perhaps we should take a print view snapshot and mirror it somewhere?
Uh... I'm still me for the time being. :rolleyes I see that JP changed his name to tapewolf. Everyone else, give a shout when you arrive!
Quote from: Tezkat on July 08, 2006, 04:22:44 PM
Hmm... nice place. It could use a bit of redecorating, though, and maybe some comfy old threads to make it feel more like home. ;) I wasn't quite sure whether this thread belonged here or in that Tower of Art thingy. I suppose the admins could always move it if necessary.
Hi Tezkat, and thanks for creating the thread. I was going to do it myself when things were a bit more settled. I was under the impression there would be a DMFA art section, which it probably wants to go in rather than the central forum.
I'm not sure it really belongs among the freaky vampire stuff :D
As for the original thread, I've been archiving it myself. I'm not entirely sure how best to present it, but I guess I could convert it into a series of pages on the IT-HE system.
Right then. Hello it is.
Quote from: tapewolf on July 08, 2006, 04:32:57 PM
I was under the impression there would be a DMFA art section, which it probably wants to go in rather than the central forum.
I'm not sure it really belongs among the freaky vampire stuff :D
Yeah. I wonder if they'll do that though--given their reaction to Azlan's request to split off the RP board. Most of the "DMFA" fan art back on the old forums was actually "forumite" art anyway. Ah well, I figure it's better to get moved in early before the crowds arrive. We can sort out the details later. ;)
QuoteAs for the original thread, I've been archiving it myself. I'm not entirely sure how best to present it, but I guess I could convert it into a series of pages on the IT-HE system.
Yeah, that might be a good way to do it. I've been grabbing "printer friendly" pages every now and then, myself. I don't quite have the patience to save 50 pages one at a time. :rolleyes I imagine that an archive would mostly be for the benefit of us old folks, though. I can't see all that many newbies wading through 1000+ posts...
Any suggestions on FAQ type stuff that could go in the intro post for the benefit of anyone just discovering our little project?
Okay, here's the first test release in the new place.
This is V2 of 'Trapped In SAIA', i.e. DMFA #504-#512.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/trapped_in_saia2.mp3
The two main improvements are:
- Kaos as Abel
- Rerecorded score, now augmented by my Cheetah during the horrific section, and with the Hammond more-or-less staying in tune
I'm still undecided about the dressing game, it won't work on audio, but I do have all the parts. Perhaps I could cue through it or use some other gratuitous tape trick.
*EDIT*
Tezkat, the 'HOWTO' is a kind of proto-FAQ. If we can collect some more stuff to go into it, I'll modify it or something.
Word of wise. Please don't dismiss the art section as full of "freaky vampire art"
Especially when a good chunk of the our own artists here often have to be told they draw "freaky furry art"
We're sharing a forum and art section with a comic that has Castlevania in its name. And I'm a comic that has the word Furry in its name. Yes, there are difference of style and interests, but it doesn't mean either have to be segregated to be enjoyed.
If anything, there is a greater risk that our forum will end up dominating and scaring off people...which is why I really want to stress now to keep a friendly attitude.
Anyways...once the forum has been settled, I'll decide where to stick this thread. In the meantime I don't have an issue with it being here.
Quote from: Amber Panyko on July 09, 2006, 08:39:38 AM
Word of wise. Please don't dismiss the art section as full of "freaky vampire art", especially when a good chunk of the our own artists here often have to be told they draw "freaky furry art"
Oh, indeed. I don't really have a problem with it, and as you say, it's a matter of taste. It's just that I was kind of expecting all the DMFA stuff to be grouped together to keep it within context. Mixing the two up just seems a little strange, somehow..
Quote from: Amber Panyko on July 09, 2006, 08:39:38 AMIf anything, there is a greater risk that our forum will end up dominating and scaring off people...which is why I really want to stress now to keep a friendly attitude.
(http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/looptest/blackboard.jpg)
Quote from: Amber Panyko on July 09, 2006, 08:39:38 AMAnyways...once the forum has been settled, I'll decide where to stick this thread. In the meantime I don't have an issue with it being here.
Noted.
I shall be relocating my microphone so I can do some more for Fa'lina (its getting a little frustrating for me that every time I get into the mood for it, either work rears its ugly head or I get something that affects my voice.)
i would offer my voice once again, but it depends..
*is bored*
Hello, all. Happy new board and all that.
SAIA V2 sounds great-- Kaos, your voice reminds me of Malfoy's for some reason (Sorry! No more HP references, I swear.) ^^
Hey, I'm Undead. That's fun. *bites*
Quote from: blade on July 09, 2006, 04:15:05 PM
I shall be relocating my microphone so I can do some more for Fa'lina (its getting a little frustrating for me that every time I get into the mood for it, either work rears its ugly head or I get something that affects my voice.)
Hi Blade, that would be much appreciated. I'd like to reissue the #424 set with Kaos as Abel, and it would be nice to have a new set of Fa'Lina recordings as the later ones in that clip have a few bumping noises and stuff which I couldn't quite remove.
I do love the "What did you do this time?!?" line though, so it would be nice if the new ones matched it (voices tend to drift, compare the early Dan recordings with the latest ones).
Thanks, and here's for hoping that my voice holds up for it. I'll try to get something in this week.
*stalks the hidden mike*
*cough* *typetypetype* we're up to, I think, 292 or so. Arc 14, anyway. Although 13 wasn't much...
Did anyone else want to do any of this typing up, or are you all leaving me to it? :-)
Quote from: llearch on July 10, 2006, 08:39:35 AM
*cough* *typetypetype* we're up to, I think, 292 or so. Arc 14, anyway. Although 13 wasn't much...
Did anyone else want to do any of this typing up, or are you all leaving me to it? :-)
Um, I was kind of leaving you to it. You're doing a good job, though.
And since we don't have the URL on the board, this is what we're talking about:
http://flawed.perception.co.nz/radio/
new topic, new thread, and now my sis stopped stealing my mic for her band's rehersal...
life is good
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/GabrielsThoughts/radioprojectgold.jpg
Woo... welcome to our new home, everybody! :mowsmile
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on July 10, 2006, 03:59:32 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/GabrielsThoughts/radioprojectgold.jpg
Heh... awesome. :mowhappy
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 10, 2006, 02:31:44 PM
Um, I was kind of leaving you to it. You're doing a good job, though.
And since we don't have the URL on the board, this is what we're talking about:
http://flawed.perception.co.nz/radio/
I was deliberately waiting until I shifted my server (I shifted house last week, and the server is still at the old house since the internet wasn't connected here yet until yesterday. I still have some cable to run and a basement to dry out before I can set everything up.) *cough*
So there will be some outages over the next week or so, hopefully.
As I may have mentioned to a few people, I'm taking a short break with family and thus have no access to my main system and studio. So there won't be an update this weekend.
However, new recordings would still be handy. :)
James, if possible, can you try to record Dan's voice for #165? Preferably close to the style of the original recordings from the DvP arc?
If you can budget the time it might be nice to redo them all as some of the earliest recordings are kind of noisy, but that's not a priority.
If you can do Dan's voice for 165, I'll reissue the warrior-for-hire set with that added.
Cheers,
Hey, JP- I mean, Tapewolf. I'm so sorry I haven't been around to do any recordings. Do you still need me to do any voicing for HollyAnn and/or Mezzafint? I'm fairly sure that my mic has finally been fixed.
:mowhappy
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 14, 2006, 06:30:11 PM
James, if possible, can you try to record Dan's voice for #165? Preferably close to the style of the original recordings from the DvP arc?
If you can budget the time it might be nice to redo them all as some of the earliest recordings are kind of noisy, but that's not a priority.
If you can do Dan's voice for 165, I'll reissue the warrior-for-hire set with that added.
Cheers,
I'll try sometime. I'm getting readjusted right now. I got the internet back faster than I thought I would. Still cleaning stuff up in my new workspace since I had to move my computer. Much a mess...
Quote from: Hilary on July 10, 2006, 03:43:18 AM
Hello, all. Happy new board and all that.
SAIA V2 sounds great-- Kaos, your voice reminds me of Malfoy's for some reason (Sorry! No more HP references, I swear.) ^^
Hey, I'm Undead. That's fun. *bites*
How dare you compare me to such scum! Heh, jsut messin' with ya, odd connection, but I haven't watched an HP movie in too long to really remember his voice.
*dodges the bite, and adds a light bap with his NES-chucks* Nice meetin' ya!
Quote from: Ryn Serenity on July 15, 2006, 10:33:47 PM
Hey, JP- I mean, Tapewolf. I'm so sorry I haven't been around to do any recordings. Do you still need me to do any voicing for HollyAnn and/or Mezzafint? I'm fairly sure that my mic has finally been fixed.
:mowhappy
J.P. is fine (or it wouldn't be in the sig). Hollyann has been taken care of by Hilary, but we do still need a voice for Mezzafint, if you're willing. We'll also need RJ, but our first choice should be her if possible.
Well if she (RJ) gets around to installing the soundcard I sent her you just might!
*shakes a fish at Pal* Yes, I know, I know!!!
And as I intended to add earlier, I'm very sorry I haven't been recording much lately, >< I'll get to some later today if I have time.
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 16, 2006, 04:28:54 AM
J.P. is fine (or it wouldn't be in the sig). Hollyann has been taken care of by Hilary, but we do still need a voice for Mezzafint, if you're willing. We'll also need RJ, but our first choice should be her if possible.
Sure, I can do Mezzafint's voice, and maybe some temporary RJ stuff, if you want it.
I will glady redo all of these, since they're badly done, and were with my dad's laptop again so not a great mic.
Will edit this with the files as soon as the internet stops hating me >> its only 6mb, its not that much!
http://home.comcast.net/~galaxyguy/537-541.zip
There ya go
Quote from: Ryn Serenity on July 16, 2006, 01:23:11 PM
Sure, I can do Mezzafint's voice, and maybe some temporary RJ stuff, if you want it.
I don't mind at all if you want to do that for RJ :3
Quote from: RJ on July 17, 2006, 12:44:53 AM
Quote from: Ryn Serenity on July 16, 2006, 01:23:11 PM
Sure, I can do Mezzafint's voice, and maybe some temporary RJ stuff, if you want it.
I don't mind at all if you want to do that for RJ :3
Okay, sure! I'll try and get some recordings done this week. These'll only be temporary, though, until you can get your sound card working. :rj
*muttergrumblemuttermutter*
fscking BT can't get DSL installed. Despite the guys doing it only doing that and nothing else...
*sigh* OTOH, I'm now around strip number 420. So once the link comes back up, we're a goodly way towards complete scripts. Ish. We probably need to re-run that lot, however. And Abel's Story will need scripting.... shouldn't take more than a day or so to do all 40 odd entries of that, tho.
Does anyone know which sister says what in Arc 15, where Jyrras is talking about his meeting with Dan, or earlier where they're all visiting - particularly the pizza argument?
Along the same lines, the loggers could do with names - particularly the Fore-Koala with the pink ears, just before #400.
Awaiting responses, and doing work...
Quote from: insanekaosx on July 16, 2006, 10:18:25 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~galaxyguy/537-541.zip
There ya go
Okay, I'm back as the flurry of posts to the board will testify. This is first listen:
537: According to Amber, Abel was supposed to say "Holy mother of F-!" but she decided to tone it down at the last moment. I have fewer inhibitions. There's several ways we could play this:
* The 'being strangled' cutoff you've done in this one
* 'Holy mother of funk' and I'll bleep it off
It would be nice if he sounded more alarmed (think Merl's "Oh my gods!" which I ad-libbed in 'Recipe for Disasters')
538: Again, a touch more desperation would be nice.
539: Okay. Perhaps he should sound a little more camp at the end. No, I'm not quite sure how that would be done.
540: Perfect
541: I love the 'Lint!' thing at the end.
537: Lemme know which you prefer to go with, I'll do either. If we decide to go with the strangled one, I was thinking of asking Miaka to help me out and come up and start strangle-glomp-hugging me as I said it. :P A little more realism or something, was mostly a joke at first, but hey.
538: Will work on it when i'm redoing these
539: More... camp?
540: Even the quality? Relistening to them I still think they're all crap quality...
541: I loved saying it xD I didn't try, but I kinda felt myself looting a Homer Simpson-esque way of saying things when I said it :P *Don't ask, I'm crazy*
Quote from: insanekaosx on July 19, 2006, 12:18:20 AM
539: More... camp?
Gay
Quote540: Even the quality? Relistening to them I still think they're all crap quality...
We'll have to see. I didn't really have time to try noise reduction on them. If it comes out too damaged, you may have to do them again.
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 19, 2006, 06:36:22 AM
Quote from: insanekaosx on July 19, 2006, 12:18:20 AM
540: Even the quality? Relistening to them I still think they're all crap quality...
We'll have to see. I didn't really have time to try noise reduction on them. If it comes out too damaged, you may have to do them again.
I wasn't able to eliminate the fan noise using the DNR in Audition. It was very significantly louder than in his previous recordings. Audacity's noise removal plugin fared even worse. :mowsad
Quote from: Tezkat on July 19, 2006, 03:38:40 PM
I wasn't able to eliminate the fan noise using the DNR in Audition. It was very significantly louder than in his previous recordings. Audacity's noise removal plugin fared even worse. :mowsad
I concur. I think you'll have to do that batch again, Kaos. Bummer.
I'll be doin' 'em tonight then, and uploading them tommorow at some point, as well as some Miaka's done.
I completely forgot the fan was on in my room, thus making insane background noise. >>
recordings!!
...I liked being able to yell at Kaos' computer. :sweatdrop
anyways: http://www.box.net/public/68qlyl4ir5
Hehehe. You got me laughing with those. Didn't hear anything resembling popping or other stuff either, all good. :januscat
Quote from: Miaka on July 22, 2006, 01:55:43 AM
recordings!!
...I liked being able to yell at Kaos' computer. :sweatdrop
Thanks. That's pretty good with the background noise. The last bit is overloading, though - really it should be fading as Jyrras walks away.
Now - I have no idea if this is practical to achieve, but just in case, do you think you
could do these alternate lines as well, from Taross' version?
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/gornski/Vol666-Backwards.jpg
*EDIT*
According to the few known audio recordings of Amber, 'mow' is pronounced as in 'cow', not as in 'mow the lawn'.
sounds pretty gosh darn good, keep it up
Tezkat, do you think you could do the Jyrras voices for #520-522 at some stage? I was going to pick up on the SAIA arc.
I guess I can concentrate on the in-SAIA part for now (Abel and Dan) since I'll also need Aary to make it work properly.
(Jyrras lines for #666 and Taross' alternate version would be neat as well).
That leaves the big problem of Ink. What do we do? Run a poll?
http://home.comcast.net/~galaxyguy/666-backwards.wav
Another line Miaka did. I have a few I did, but box.net isn't working and they're too big for my comcast account righ tnow. I'll figuer it out later though *4am is not the best time for such tings :P* I did 537*yeah, redid these for ya :D*-550.
hope ya'll don't mind that on the line I glompe Kaos for you can hear me giggling after glomping him. >>
Quote from: Miaka on July 24, 2006, 08:14:30 AM
hope ya'll don't mind that on the line I glompe Kaos for you can hear me giggling after glomping him. >>
Ah, is that what the warbling effect is? Not a problem.
I'm not asking you to do this, but if you're like, totally bored and have nothing to do all day, you might consider doing this:
1. Take the original recording and play it backwards, over and over again
2. Learn how to say it backwards
3. Record that and play it forwards
..I've got to admit I haven't tried this myself, but it's supposed to work pretty well for this sort of hidden-message type stuff.
*typetypetype*
Since BT hasn't sorted their shit out yet, I've been busy over the weekend. I'm up to strip 609 on the main - ie, I'm on the last arc - and have churned through a little more than half of Abel's Story. Given my current rate of progress, and the way that tomorrow morning should be idle waiting for BT to arrive, I expect that by this time tomorrow the results will be scarey.
Or something.
Just so you guys know...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 24, 2006, 09:31:45 AM
Since BT hasn't sorted their shit out yet, I've been busy over the weekend. I'm up to strip 609 on the main - ie, I'm on the last arc - and have churned through a little more than half of Abel's Story. Given my current rate of progress, and the way that tomorrow morning should be idle waiting for BT to arrive, I expect that by this time tomorrow the results will be scarey.
Or something.
Just so you guys know...
Cool! When you say 'BT', is that some NZ subsidiary of British Telecom? If so, I sympathise. When I last moved (Nov 2004) it took until the following March to get the phone line working at all. If it hadn't been for my dependence on Force9 I would probably have gone with NTL instead.
Nope. The NZ version is Telecom NZ. BT as in British Telecom, the folks who run the cables in England.
... don't you read the APF thread? :-)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 24, 2006, 09:45:34 AM
Nope. The NZ version is Telecom NZ. BT as in British Telecom, the folks who run the cables in England.
... don't you read the APF thread? :-)
No.. If I read the APF thread, I'd try to answer the questions and get marmalized by Ink again (although the decoy seems to have worked so far).
(http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/jakob/jakob_apf.png)
http://www.box.net/public/bbqoxu0f5s
Bwaha, I am victorious.
Quote from: insanekaosx on July 24, 2006, 01:07:44 PM
Bwaha, I am victorious.
Yes, I believe you are.
Now, I believe the next priority for SAIA is that we need someone to play Nirfy. Any takers?
I was being weird o,o Its a rare occasion someone agrees with me. *looks at the mac next to him* Expect mroe recordings tonight/tommorow, maybe.
I keep finding myself at loose ends these days... do you need any more Lorenda lines for the near future?
Quote from: Hilary on July 24, 2006, 03:56:55 PM
I keep finding myself at loose ends these days... do you need any more Lorenda lines for the near future?
Not sure. The amethysts line from the recent comics might be handy. If you're really bored, would you mind reprising HollyAnn for another project?
The Furfire Radio Project never really took off, but if you want something to do, Hollyann intros around here.
http://www.furfire.org/d/fur/20010527.html
The core part which I did a test mix for starts here:
http://www.furfire.org/d/fur/20010628.html
Hmm... Since I had to move my computer out of my apartment, I've had issues with a quiet house. I may have to wait till I move (which may be before the next semester of school starts in about a month) unless I can catch a rare moment here and there.
Also, I need to revamp the cast last, but I'm pretty lost with this right now. Can I get a complete list of changes/updates? Time willing, I'll update all the sound files too.
Quote from: James StarRunner on July 24, 2006, 05:00:15 PM
Also, I need to revamp the cast last, but I'm pretty lost with this right now.
So am I. It's compounded by the fact that we have different actors for different sections, e.g. Mab has been played by Bobby Prodigy, Gabi and Catherine Willington, to say nothing of Aaryanna.
QuoteCan I get a complete list of changes/updates? Time willing, I'll update all the sound files too.
I'll try, but not tonight. For starters, check the cast list on my site - I made sure it was correct at least as far as the
Warrior-For-Hire release was concerned. By the way, if you don't mind, could you mirror that as top priority? It will soon be a month old :)
**EDIT**
By the way, your reaction to Abel tearing the robe is bloody marvellous.
Doing some more recording, but uh... can't remember which lines I've done already now *I'm hitting the point where I know I've done some'a these before, iirc >> I do distinctly remembering saying "fluff tuft"
Quote from: insanekaosx on July 25, 2006, 10:42:22 AM
Doing some more recording, but uh... can't remember which lines I've done already now *I'm hitting the point where I know I've done some'a these before, iirc >> I do distinctly remembering saying "fluff tuft"
I can let you know what I have in the 'insanekaosx' directory if you want. But you'll have to wait about 21/2 hours.
Eh, don't bother yourself. I'll just record everything. I need soemthign to do anyways >>
I'm sorry, I'm only up to strip 638 or so. On the upside, my anter-net at home is looking on to being put back online this evening.
Or at worst in a couple of days.
Oh, yes. And Abel's Story is scripted. The only problem is, there are lots of segments where I can't figure out who is saying what - the scene with the sisters, for example. Or, rather, all three of them. At least once, we know Ellen just spoke - since the next person tells her to be nice - but we don't know what other lines were hers.
I'm almost pondering listing in the notes which scripts need attention for that... In fact, that's probably a good idea... Wait for the next version visible.. :)
Quote from: insanekaosx on July 25, 2006, 11:04:25 AM
Eh, don't bother yourself. I'll just record everything. I need soemthign to do anyways >>
jpmorris@seaharrier:~/missmab/audio/cast/insanekaosx$ ls
424v1.wav 426v2.wav 511.wav 518.wav 538v2.wav 541v2.wav 550.wav
424v2.wav 506.wav 512.wav 519.wav 538.wav 541.wav 608.wav
424v3.wav 507.wav 513.wav 523.wav 539v2.wav 542.wav 609v1.wav
424.wav 508a.wav 514.wav 524.wav 539.wav 545.wav
425v1.wav 508b.wav 515.wav 525.wav 540v2b.wav 547.wav
425v2.wav 509v1.wav 516.wav 537v2.wav 540v2.wav 548.wav
426v1.wav 509v2.wav 517.wav 537.wav 540.wav 549.wav
jpmorris@seaharrier:~/missmab/audio/cast/insanekaosx$..I believe that's all of them. There might be a few misfiled somewhere (still kicking around in the root, and so on)
Excellent, I haven't done anythign twice yet! Well, not with the latest recordings at least.
Will edit with lines 551-600 as soon as they finish uploading. EDIT> That is, if it will upload without any errors ><
EDIT again> So box.net decided to be screwy again, oh well. I tried out yousendit.com to send it to ya JP, lemme know how that goes
Right. My server is now back up and running, and *should* be accessible.
It has scripts up to strip 649.
If anyone has any comments to make on those, please feel free...
Quote from: insanekaosx on July 25, 2006, 05:07:58 PM
Excellent, I haven't done anythign twice yet! Well, not with the latest recordings at least.
Will edit with lines 551-600 as soon as they finish uploading. EDIT> That is, if it will upload without any errors ><
EDIT again> So box.net decided to be screwy again, oh well. I tried out yousendit.com to send it to ya JP, lemme know how that goes
Never heard of that - was it supposed to send an email? If so it might have got lost in the spam. You might need to do it again :(
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 25, 2006, 09:56:50 PM
Right. My server is now back up and running, and *should* be accessible.
It has scripts up to strip 649.
If anyone has any comments to make on those, please feel free...
Has it moved? 'cause if it's still at Flawed Perception, I can't get at it..
Maybe if box.net hates me again, but I got them up there now
http://www.box.net/public/clz1prxtm5 551-574
http://www.box.net/public/a4h4ip0z14 575-600
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 24, 2006, 04:15:34 PM
The amethysts line from the recent comics might be handy.
Here ya go.
http://rapidshare.de/files/27125452/664_amethysts.wav.html
*pounces on the 'Princes of the Dreams' thread* :3
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 26, 2006, 08:47:27 AM
Has it moved? 'cause if it's still at Flawed Perception, I can't get at it..
Dammit. Gateway fell over, dropped the webserver...
Back up now. If it's still not visible, drop me a line and I'll go see if I can figure out what's misconfigured...
I can see it. Now I can go back to spying on all your crap. :mowninja
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 26, 2006, 06:30:37 PM
Dammit. Gateway fell over, dropped the webserver...
Back up now. If it's still not visible, drop me a line and I'll go see if I can figure out what's misconfigured...
Yep, it's all there.
http://www.box.net/public/020es0efpq
602-620. 601 got missed in the transfer between computers, will put it up with next batch
Scripts are done!
Woot! :-)
Quote from: insanekaosx on July 26, 2006, 11:06:03 PM
http://www.box.net/public/020es0efpq
602-620. 601 got missed in the transfer between computers, will put it up with next batch
You might want to double-check that URL.. it doesn't seem to work. I've just listened to the others, though - one or two of them could stand a little improvement, but they're pretty good.
Here's a few possible improvements:
* 577 - Abel should sound more sinister or at least angry.. he's just announced he's going to kill Merlitz
* 576 - The 'Ack!' at the end is good, but I had more in mind a sort of soft 'uh' sound. I could probably make one, though.
* 584 - 'I'm not touching you' sounds a little flat. It should be more musical. The second one is better, but I can do a recording if you want a reference.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 27, 2006, 04:31:27 AM
Scripts are done!
Woot! :-)
Excellent. Next time I do a Merlitz recording (or fill) I'll be able to use yours.
See, when I first did "I'm not touching you!" I did do it slightly musically without thinking >> But I kinda shoot myself down whenever I start singing at all. *At least, outside of randomness*
I'll redo those and reupload the latest files
http://www.box.net/public/mn6hz3xzyd should work now
Quote from: insanekaosx on July 27, 2006, 09:43:31 AM
See, when I first did "I'm not touching you!" I did do it slightly musically without thinking >> But I kinda shoot myself down whenever I start singing at all. *At least, outside of randomness*
I'll redo those and reupload the latest files
http://www.box.net/public/mn6hz3xzyd should work now
Okay. Here's some suggestions and also a couple of problems:
* 607: Problem: "Awry" is pronounced "a-rye" not "arry", "spiders" is unclear, sounds like "fighters".
* IMHO, 615 should sound more silky, like he's trying to seduce Jyrras (Dan should sound kind of dead, but that's not your line).
* 618: Problem: It's clipping badly when he shouts. Do you think you could do just that bit again a few times, further away from the mic? I can increase the volume my end, but if it clips, I can't really use it.
Everything else is good. We just need Dan's lines for this section.
Hilary, do you want to do Lorenda in 615? I'd forgotten about that.
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 27, 2006, 06:55:02 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 27, 2006, 04:31:27 AM
Scripts are done!
Woot! :-)
Excellent. Next time I do a Merlitz recording (or fill) I'll be able to use yours.
... of course, I'm still skipping through them the second time to fill in and make them consistent - or, more consistent. Adding "narrator" to the quotes, and guessing who says wot in the square boxes, that sort of thing. Adding SFX - many of the later ones already have the SFX actor there, but the earlier ones don't. So I'm touching those up.
Sooner or later the index page will also have a list of where I'm not sure who's talking - the Gianna girls, for example, or where the pokemons are shouting from offstage, or that sort of thing. I'm happy for someone to argue over any of the choices I've made, and I'll try to remember to document where those choices are, so that it's obvious where I've differed from the "canonical" version, as it were.
I should probably investigate RCS or something for the folder where I have this stuff stored, I think...
Fun stuff to rework, sounds good. I'll get to it!
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 27, 2006, 10:10:58 AM
Hilary, do you want to do Lorenda in 615? I'd forgotten about that.
Shazam. ^^
http://rapidshare.de/files/27263926/615_Lorenda.wav.html
Woot. Subversion rawks.
... and deals with local repositories -extremely- well - much better than I expected. Which means, since I use svn all the time, I now have a chunk of my website in svn, as I make changes. I shall probably add other sections as I work on them - there being images and stuff that shouldn't be in the repository :-)
Neat stuff. :-) I'll stop boring you all about now, then :-)
The problem of Ink aside, does anyone want to try their hand at Nirfy?
And yes, SVN does rock unless you have people who don't really use it properly. It also goes wildly wrong if you forget yourself and delete things manually. And it's not much fun if you're in charge of the system and you don't know what to do when it goes wrong..
**EDIT**
Insane, if you're looking for something to do, I couldn't entirely remove the noise on 518 and 519. Do you think you could redo those at some point?
I must say, I listened through the H-Ann storyline episode and some of the voice acting was really amazing. Most notably James StarRunner's performance as Dan... Cheers! :U
Just a bit of mindless compliment from teh me. :B And lament because I don't have a good enough microphone to be in it D:
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 29, 2006, 06:33:22 PM
I must say, I listened through the H-Ann storyline episode and some of the voice acting was really amazing. Most notably James StarRunner's performance as Dan... Cheers! :U
Thanks. The Warrior-for-Hire arc is mostly comprised of older recordings. Some of the stuff he's done more recently in the SAIA arc is really jaw-dropping, IMHO.
Quote
Just a bit of mindless compliment from teh me. :B And lament because I don't have a good enough microphone to be in it D:
I think James uses some $10 Labtec mic or something. I think it's mostly just Tezkat and I with the semi-professional setups.
Also, listening to the Aaryanna arc, I noticed...
NOOO! YOU TOOK OUT THE SCARY CRAZY NECRONOMICON CTHULHU CHANT! :<
You know the one where Wildy goes 'Phinglui mgl'nahf Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn'? That's the Cthulhu thingy. Instead there's some strange backwards-played thing, which works fine too of course, but I'll always be a follower of Cthulhu by heart. :U
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 29, 2006, 06:56:35 PM
NOOO! YOU TOOK OUT THE SCARY CRAZY NECRONOMICON CTHULHU CHANT! :<
Ask Miaka about that - I even told her how to pronounce the stuff :(
I was working off the pronunciations from the talkie version of 'Alone In The Dark', although if someone knows how to pronounce it all properly, that would be handy.
Much of Wildy's lines for that segment will have to be redone anyway because they were in various states of distortion, a problem she seems to have recovered from now :)
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 29, 2006, 06:33:22 PM
I must say, I listened through the H-Ann storyline episode and some of the voice acting was really amazing. Most notably James StarRunner's performance as Dan... Cheers! :U
Just a bit of mindless compliment from teh me. :B And lament because I don't have a good enough microphone to be in it D:
Whoo hoo! Maybe I can make it into cheap english dubs of anime! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/Jameswglasses.gif)
Actually, I think a number of our team could actually have a decent career as voice actors. I'm not sure if my performance in that episode would be good enough for a professional studio, but I have improved since like Tapewolf said.
As for the mic, I
had a cheap $10-$20 labtec mic (and used it for most of my lines in that ep.), but since moved to an Andrea NC-8 headset I got for free (forgot who gave it to me... Aghhh!) and I don't think that's a top of the line mic either. I mostly just have to speak up to overcome the background noise, but it just goes to show that anyone can still work in this project.
I think one of the main culprits of background noise is having the microphone volume set too loud. My own microphone, I can speak directly into it at close range and still manage a loud voice, with the volume set low enough for background noise to be nonexistent. That may not work for everyone (microphones and stuff have those little quirks that make it harder to do things right sometimes) but it's a good tip.
I will record more lines and edit the ones from before as soon as I can, unfortunately I don't know when that will be... Sorry
I updated the title to advertise the
Dr. Ink poll (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=716.0).
I should have Jyrras recordings for the SAIA arc up sometime soon now.
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 29, 2006, 06:33:22 PM
Just a bit of mindless compliment from teh me. :B And lament because I don't have a good enough microphone to be in it D:
Hey... I started out with a discount bin mic, myself. Many AVAs consider the $30 Logitech USB mic to be top of the line, and most make do with less. Very few amateur VAs are crazy enough to blow hundreds of dollars on recording equipment.
Please don't let your gear stop you from trying! Voice acting only requires that you be able to speak and act. Technical limitations of your recording setup can usually be overcome through improved technique, rearranging your workspace, or even fixed digitally in post production.
Quote from: James StarRunner on July 29, 2006, 08:39:05 PM
Whoo hoo! Maybe I can make it into cheap english dubs of anime! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/Jameswglasses.gif)
Ya know... the biggest concentration of amateur VA activity on the net is probably fandubbed anime, if you want to try your hand at that...
QuoteActually, I think a number of our team could actually have a decent career as voice actors. I'm not sure if my performance in that episode would be good enough for a professional studio, but I have improved since like Tapewolf said.
Heh... it's not easy to make a living doing character voices. Cartoons/anime don't pay very well. (Video game voiceover apparently pays
very well for the amount of work you do, but it's a tiny segment of the industry.) Almost all pro VAs either do primarily commercial/corporate voiceover or supplement their income with other jobs. Plus you mostly have to live near the major studios to do animated stuff--only commercial voiceover producers regularly acccept work over ISDN.
Nonetheless, the level of skill our little team has gained over the past year is quite amazing... to say nothing of the talent... :mowdan
Quote from: James StarRunner on July 29, 2006, 08:39:05 PM
Whoo hoo! Maybe I can make it into cheap english dubs of anime! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/Jameswglasses.gif)
Actually, I think a number of our team could actually have a decent career as voice actors. I'm not sure if my performance in that episode would be good enough for a professional studio, but I have improved since like Tapewolf said.
As for the mic, I had a cheap $10-$20 labtec mic (and used it for most of my lines in that ep.), but since moved to an Andrea NC-8 headset I got for free (forgot who gave it to me... Aghhh!) and I don't think that's a top of the line mic either. I mostly just have to speak up to overcome the background noise, but it just goes to show that anyone can still work in this project.
I WANT A HEADSET! :< I had a headset but then something evil happened and it broke.
Or it was just
crazy evil defected.
Anyway. I don't even have a mike that's really my own, either, I'm just borrowing one, so I could probably not have a consistent role...
I'm not sure I have the talent required for Dr Ink... I'd probably only come out sounding like ol' Arnold... (
My tea tastes like joy now. How horrid. Hasta la vista, baby!)
Edit:
Hey... I started out with a discount bin mic, myself.You have to understand, however, that I'm a perfectionist. If I get the kind of bad background noise and such I'd get with a cheap microphone I have to
go through extensive therapy try again and again until it satisfies me, which could take a long time.
Oh well. I'll have my mom borrow me cash for a more good-er microphone.. :B
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 29, 2006, 07:16:02 PM
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 29, 2006, 06:56:35 PM
NOOO! YOU TOOK OUT THE SCARY CRAZY NECRONOMICON CTHULHU CHANT! :<
Ask Miaka about that - I even told her how to pronounce the stuff :(
I was working off the pronunciations from the talkie version of 'Alone In The Dark', although if someone knows how to pronounce it all properly, that would be handy.
Much of Wildy's lines for that segment will have to be redone anyway because they were in various states of distortion, a problem she seems to have recovered from now :)
Yay! There might yet be hope for Cthulhu :U
HP Lovecraft FOR THE WIN. :D
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 05:03:06 AM
You have to understand, however, that I'm a perfectionist. If I get the kind of bad background noise and such I'd get with a cheap microphone I have to go through extensive therapy try again and again until it satisfies me, which could take a long time.
Oh well. I'll have my mom borrow me cash. :B
I'm using a Behringer B-1, so is Tezkat. It's a cheap-and-cheerful studio mike. Thomann are selling these for just over 100 euros. You'll also need a preamp to drive it though, since it's a proper microphone and needs a 48v supply to make it work. The Mic-100 is about 50 euros. You would also need an XLR cable and probably a mic stand as well since it has no internal shockmount and therefore tends to make strange 'bunggg!' noises if you hold it yourself. There are even cheaper mics by Soundeluxe, CAD, MXL etc, but most of them will also need a 48v supply.
I personally have a compressor as well, which helps smooth out the volume levels. I spent roughly 300 euros on mine, but you can get much cheaper ones (Behringer..*)
If you're only going to do this occasionally, a labtec mic is probably better. Otherwise, a basic setup will likely cost around 200 euros (up to 5000 euros, or maybe 50000 if you tried really hard :) ). I wouldn't recommend this route unless you're already intending to set up some kind of home studio.
P.S. Damien, please don't make two consecutive posts like that - in future, use the edit button and modify the first one. I don't care personally, but if Manawolf or someone sees it they'll kill you D:
* Behringer have a bad reputation in many parts of the studio community - they sell incredibly cheap Chinese-made stuff, the designs of which outwardly appear to have been copied from more reputable makes. But you can't deny they make a good starting point.
OMG FACE TIME!
D:
I don't understand what's wrong with doing consecutive posts tbh, many of the big forums I've been a member of don't care too much... Besides, I'm lucky if I don't double-post all the time since my internet has crazy delay.
Explanation would be jolly good.
Oh well, moving on,
it's lucky I'm a millionaire and not short on cash then isn't it? :U
5 years ago i remember nobody ever caring how many posts in a row you made, as long as you weren't spamming. the edit button has you people spoiled.
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 05:42:12 AM
I don't understand what's wrong with doing consecutive posts tbh, many of the big forums I've been a member of don't care too much... Besides, I'm lucky if I don't double-post all the time since my internet has crazy delay.
Explanation would be jolly good.
Well like I said, I couldn't care less and no-one cares about it on the technical forums anyway. I'm just trying to protect you from those who
do care..
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 05:08:56 AM
HP Lovecraft FOR THE WIN. :D
Have you ever seen this?
http://books.guardian.co.uk/harrypotter/story/0,10761,1523455,00.html
And now, back to the editing..
Dumbledore's death Lovecraft style?
Who writes these things?! xD
Edit: Actually, the more I think about it, the more I feel like trying to take on the challenge of Dr Ink.
So.
What do I do? :U
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 07:44:25 AM
Dumbledore's death Lovecraft style?
Who writes these things?! xD
The Guardian ran a competition. The winner was in the style of Chaucer, although I thought the Lovecraft one was best personally. There was also one in the style of Hunter S Thomson which I rather liked too.
QuoteActually, the more I think about it, the more I feel like trying to take on the challenge of Dr Ink.
So.
What do I do? :U
What you must do is make a recording. Either use the comic strip or Llearch's write-up here: http://flawed.perception.co.nz/radio/Chapter_18.txt
Make the recording and post a link to it here, or email it to me or James.
Hints etc. can be found here:
http://dmfa.it-he.org/howto.htm
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 30, 2006, 09:56:49 AMThe Guardian ran a competition. The winner was in the style of Chaucer, although I thought the Lovecraft one was best personally. There was also one in the style of Hunter S Thomson which I rather liked too.
Did you ever see Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas? Terry Gilliam directing a film with Johnny Depp and Benicio del Toro as the lead characters with the story based on Hunter S Thomson's biography can quite possibly be one of the most crazy things in the world. :U
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 30, 2006, 09:56:49 AMQuoteActually, the more I think about it, the more I feel like trying to take on the challenge of Dr Ink.
So.
What do I do? :U
What you must do is make a recording. Either use the comic strip or Llearch's write-up here: http://flawed.perception.co.nz/radio/Chapter_18.txt
Make the recording and post a link to it here, or email it to me or James.
Hints etc. can be found here:
http://dmfa.it-he.org/howto.htm
Roight! I've made the recording (not with the special effects and such, but removing the background noise and amplifying the volume a bit). What's your email? Or am I just too lazy to find it? xD (this was a joke btw)
Edit: Aw hell! I gotta go ... looks like I'll have to send it later, because my email is crazy and doesn't accept my email adress as of now so I can't send any mail.
Bah.
I need a new computer.
Generally speaking, one obtains a website and uploads it up there.
Hence why I have my website, and Tapewolf has his, and... :-)
Of course, if you don't have one, you can work around that by sending emails...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 30, 2006, 10:27:52 AM
Generally speaking, one obtains a website and uploads it up there.
Hence why I have my website, and Tapewolf has his, and... :-)
Of course, if you don't have one, you can work around that by sending emails...
I am chronically website-less.
So.
Email it is. :U
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 11:19:17 AM
I am chronically website-less.
So.
Email it is. :U
As mentioned in the HOWTO, you can also use Rapidshare or files.bz.
I take it the email from Jeff Johanson was yours?
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 30, 2006, 02:04:48 PM
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 11:19:17 AM
I am chronically website-less.
So.
Email it is. :U
As mentioned in the HOWTO, you can also use Rapidshare or files.bz.
I take it the email from Jeff Johanson was yours?
Yarrrr. :B 'Twas I!
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 10:03:22 AM
Did you ever see Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?
No. I never knew about it until recently. Having seen the disaster of 'Lord of the Rings' and chickened out of 'V for Vendetta', I'm not sure if even Terry Gilliam could do
that book justice. The only really good book conversion I've seen was the BBC's version of 'Box of Delights' which actually surpassed the original book.
Anyway. Here's the current experimental build of SAIA act 3.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia3.wav.mp3
I seem to be having issues composing a score for this one, but I'll get there in the end, I guess.
"She'll kill us all!" (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/Jamestongue.gif)
Whoa! Blast from the past! I remember the first time we did #528! I wasn't even trying for Dan then! I was actually trying for Dr. Ink at first but had my Ink parts recorded over... I finally removed the file from my site despite Tez wanting it 'burned with fire' a long time ago.
May need more tearing into Ink's robes when Abel attacks him.
Quote from: James StarRunner on July 30, 2006, 06:14:15 PM
"She'll kill us all!"
I can well believe it! How did you
do that? I'm not sure I could achieve that level of terror if I tried.
QuoteMay need more tearing into Ink's robes when Abel attacks him.
Yeah, it's rather sparse. I was going to add punching sounds and other stuff, but the spring reverb setup for Ink was being iffy and I didn't want to disturb it. I'll also need a scream of rage from Insane as well.
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 30, 2006, 05:39:31 PM
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 10:03:22 AM
Did you ever see Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?
No. I never knew about it until recently. Having seen the disaster of 'Lord of the Rings' and chickened out of 'V for Vendetta', I'm not sure if even Terry Gilliam could do that book justice. The only really good book conversion I've seen was the BBC's version of 'Box of Delights' which actually surpassed the original book.
Try it. It's one of those films you either love or hate.
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 30, 2006, 05:39:31 PMAnyway. Here's the current experimental build of SAIA act 3.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia3.wav.mp3
Joy! Because I'm bored and have nothing better to do.
Edit: As always, James' performance roxx0rz my soxx0rz.
I really liked James's performance in the SAIA arc. :mowdan I'll admit that I initially had some doubts about his more aggressive portrayal of Dan here, but it seems they were quite unfounded. One weird thing that I've noticed about it though... Dan says "coo-bye" instead of the "cue-bye" pronunciation we've mostly settled on. I'm not sure if I mentioned this before--after checking his older recordings, it seems he's
always pronounced it that way, and I probably never paid it much heed--but it sounds a bit out of place next to Abel and Ink.
I can't say that I'm a fan of the reverse reverb on Ink's voice. In fact, on the longer passages, the effect it creates is rather annoying--it turns into a kind of background noise with just enough signal to distract from the performance. :mowdizzy
Quote from: James StarRunner on July 30, 2006, 06:14:15 PM
May need more tearing into Ink's robes when Abel attacks him.
Yes, yes... more scratchy teary sounds! :kittydevious
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 05:03:06 AM
You have to understand, however, that I'm a perfectionist. If I get the kind of bad background noise and such I'd get with a cheap microphone I have to go through extensive therapy try again and again until it satisfies me, which could take a long time.
Heh... I often do a dozen takes even
with a few hundred bucks worth of recording equipment. I don't think the two things are really related. For that matter, it's hard to deal with background noise in one's own studio because the same background noises you recorded are all around you while you edit.
Ya know... a better mic won't solve noise problems. Background noises are a function of the recording environment, not the equipment. Cheap mics may not be high fidelity recording tools, but they're not inherently noisy unless they're broken. If anything, upgrading to a studio mic will
increase background noise problems because it's so sensitive; my B-1 can pick up people talking next door if I turn the gain way up. Electronics noise usually originates in the audio interface ("sound card" doesn't sound sexy enough for pro audio types, so they call it an "audio interface") or an improperly grounded power supply, and it's usually so soft and regular that it can be removed digitally without too much damage to the original clip.
If you're starting out in voice acting, I'd recommend getting one of those cheap, long-necked desktop mics. (As I mentioned earlier, the Logitech USB mic is a favourite in the online AVA community, but you can easily find cheaper models for $10 or less.) They're directional, so they pick up very little room noise if you position them correctly. Headsets are not ideal for VA applications due to the difficultly in controlling popping (that annoying noise you hear when people puff their P's and other plosive consonants) and the amount of breath/mouth sounds they pick up, but a little skill and practice can overcome that.
If you really do want to upgrade to a semi-pro setup without spending a mint, I've heard good things about the MXL Desktop Recording Kit, which has a street price of around $100. It's a cheap Chinese condenser mic (Yamaha distributes the Marshall mics in North America, so they can't be that bad...) that works off of battery power and comes with everything you need out of the box--the extra stuff like cables, stands, pre-amp, and such can cost as much as the mic itself when you buy them separately.
FACED BY YOUR IMMENSE KNOWLEDGE, I AM FLOORED AND AT A LOSS FOR WORDS! D:
Really. I can't think of anything to say. Thanks for the information, maybe? :U
Quote from: Tezkat on July 30, 2006, 06:39:36 PM
One weird thing that I've noticed about it though... Dan says "coo-bye" instead of the "cue-bye" pronunciation we've mostly settled on. I'm not sure if I mentioned this before--after checking his older recordings, it seems he's always pronounced it that way, and I probably never paid it much heed--but it sounds a bit out of place next to Abel and Ink.
I was being tactful about that :P It's interesting that 'incubus' is pronounced properly though.
QuoteI can't say that I'm a fan of the reverse reverb on Ink's voice. In fact, on the longer passages, the effect it creates is rather annoying--it turns into a kind of background noise with just enough signal to distract from the performance.
My initial reaction to that was not printable in this forum. On the other hand, that's why I made this release, for people to pull it apart.
Anyway, what would you prefer instead? Amber took the trouble to shade in all his speech bubbles, which says to me that his voice is not normal - using it dry is therefore not an option, IMHO.
Tomorrow I might try running it forwards instead, see if that works better. But I'll probably use the digital reverb instead as I'm b_______ if I'm going to all that trouble yet again just for people to say it sucks.
Quote
Quote from: James StarRunner on July 30, 2006, 06:14:15 PM
May need more tearing into Ink's robes when Abel attacks him.
Yes, yes... more scratchy teary sounds! :kittydevious
But not too many. Each time you hear that noise, a shirt dies!
Well, he could just be really, really, evil... on the inside... or something.. and ... stuff...... something.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on July 30, 2006, 07:16:02 PM
Well, he could just be really, really, evil... on the inside... or something.. and ... stuff...... something.
Good point.
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 30, 2006, 06:24:39 PM
I can well believe it! How did you do that? I'm not sure I could achieve that level of terror if I tried.
Thought about my sisters? No, actually, I don't have any secret, but acting for Dan has helped me act out different emotions better (sometimes even immediately after another one thanks to those mood swings).
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 06:33:03 PM
Edit: As always, James' performance roxx0rz my soxx0rz.
Hopefully that means I didn't destroy your socks... My insurance won't cover it. Glad you liked it though!
Quote from: Tezkat on July 30, 2006, 06:39:36 PM
I really liked James's performance in the SAIA arc.
Does that mean I rocked your socks too? Well, you do a FAR better job of Ink than me, not to mention all the other characters you do (and do well).
QuoteDan says "coo-bye" instead of the "cue-bye" pronunciation we've mostly settled on. I'm not sure if I mentioned this before--after checking his older recordings, it seems he's always pronounced it that way, and I probably never paid it much heed--but it sounds a bit out of place next to Abel and Ink.
Err... umm... hehehe... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/Jamessweatdrop.gif) I'll work on it. It's just become habit now.
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 06:54:06 PM
FACED BY YOUR IMMENSE KNOWLEDGE, I AM FLOORED AND AT A LOSS FOR WORDS! D:
Ya, Tezkat's good. He's got quite the experience. Oh, and I do many takes as well, I think most of us do. It's not uncommon in professional studios either from what I hear.
Quote from: James StarRunner on July 31, 2006, 01:05:06 AMQuote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 06:33:03 PM
Edit: As always, James' performance roxx0rz my soxx0rz.
Hopefully that means I didn't destroy your socks... My insurance won't cover it. Glad you liked it though!
Well normally I don't wear socks. But in the event that I did, you would fill them with rocks.
Quote from: James StarRunner on July 31, 2006, 01:05:06 AMQuote from: Damien Holtz on July 30, 2006, 06:54:06 PM
FACED BY YOUR IMMENSE KNOWLEDGE, I AM FLOORED AND AT A LOSS FOR WORDS! D:
Ya, Tezkat's good. He's got quite the experience. Oh, and I do many takes as well, I think most of us do. It's not uncommon in professional studios either from what I hear.
Ooh, like when you're shooting a movie and work for nine hours a day and get about a minute of usable footage? I see... :U
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 31, 2006, 05:47:26 AM
Quote from: James StarRunner on July 31, 2006, 01:05:06 AMYa, Tezkat's good. He's got quite the experience. Oh, and I do many takes as well, I think most of us do. It's not uncommon in professional studios either from what I hear.
Ooh, like when you're shooting a movie and work for nine hours a day and get about a minute of usable footage? I see... :U
It's not usually that bad - the songs are much worse because they have to be in tune. I used to use an ATR-1 autotune unit to help, but I can hear the effect now so I don't use it anymore. I suppose I should sell it on. I don't remember how many times I re-did 'Legend of Daniel Ti'Fiona' - too many :(
I think the worst problem I had was the 'Disasters' arc. I had to do Merlitz' thoughts over and over again, because I kept getting it wrong. Once I'd got it right, I had to do it again anyway because Aary told us that we were pronouncing her name wrong :rolleyes
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/dmfa_disaster_outtakes.wav.mp3
Well, then again no-one said life was easy.
Although DMFA makes it 7.618% easier.
MODIFY'D!: Some imput on Saia act 3 - apart from the scratchy teary sounds, I noticed a couple things when listening more closely.
This is what I noticed:
1. When Abel goes 'I guess we should start the tour. Shall we go? ... Um, Dan?', I think it'd sound a lot better with a bigger pause between the 'Shall we go?' and the 'Um, Dan?', because it sounds like he doesn't even wait for an answer. Or maybe it's just me.
2. When Ink goes 'What? Really what?' in the end, I think a nice effect would be Abel yelling indistinctly in the background, since he appears to be doing so in the comic.
Yarr. :U
Quote from: Damien Holtz on July 31, 2006, 06:57:16 AM
Well, then again no-one said life was easy.
Although DMFA makes it 7.618% easier.
MODIFY'D!: Some imput on Saia act 3 - apart from the scratchy teary sounds, I noticed a couple things when listening more closely.
This is what I noticed:
1. When Abel goes 'I guess we should start the tour. Shall we go? ... Um, Dan?', I think it'd sound a lot better with a bigger pause between the 'Shall we go?' and the 'Um, Dan?', because it sounds like he doesn't even wait for an answer. Or maybe it's just me.
2. When Ink goes 'What? Really what?' in the end, I think a nice effect would be Abel yelling indistinctly in the background, since he appears to be doing so in the comic.
Yarr. :U
1. I didn't notice that. Thanks. If I remember in about 10 hours time, I'll fix that tonight.
2. Yes, that's the plan. I'll need an angry yell for when he's duffing up Ink, and some incoherent sounds for that bit. Sort of "Nk!" noises because he's too angry to be coherent. I was going to record some myself, but I didn't want to touch the reverb setup which was rather delicate.
Did you also notice that I had to switch over to Khazan in the middle because Insane has missed some and I didn't realise until I tried to use them?
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 01, 2006, 04:01:52 AMDid you also notice that I had to switch over to Khazan in the middle because Insane has missed some and I didn't realise until I tried to use them?
Nope! :U
(I use that smiley too much. :U )
I'm sure I'm going to ask a stupid question, the kind of question you're going to answer saying "Gosh, please, read the topic!", but how many arcs of DMFA have you done yet, guys? I heard two for the moment : the one where Dan fights against Dark Pegasus ("Daniel Tifiora, warrior for hire"? Not sure of the title of that arc...), and the one with Jyrras' family. I mean, you made more? Where are they? I think I should go and have another look to the first post of this topic and check for updates. In any case, I haven't thought you were working so hard on all that, great job! ;)
Quote from: Xss on August 02, 2006, 04:03:47 AM
I'm sure I'm going to ask a stupid question, the kind of question you're going to answer saying "Gosh, please, read the topic!", but how many arcs of DMFA have you done yet, guys? I heard two for the moment : the one where Dan fights against Dark Pegasus ("Daniel Tifiora, warrior for hire"? Not sure of the title of that arc...), and the one with Jyrras' family. I mean, you made more? Where are they?
"Warrior For Hire" is the only complete broadcast-length episode, but there are lots and lots of shorter test segments, including the individual segments that I compiled into "Warrior For Hire".
The link is the one in my signature, http://dmfa.it-he.org
James also has a site here: http://www.crystaltopia.com/DMFA%20Stuff.htm
Okay, compiling a list of thigns I need to do. Woke up at an ungodly hour due to people and their lawn work, so I've time to do some recording
* 577 - Abel should sound more sinister or at least angry.. he's just announced he's going to kill Merlitz
* 576 - The 'Ack!' at the end is good, but I had more in mind a sort of soft 'uh' sound. I could probably make one, though.
* 584 - 'I'm not touching you' sounds a little flat. It should be more musical. The second one is better, but I can do a recording if you want a reference.
* 607: Problem: "Awry" is pronounced "a-rye" not "arry", "spiders" is unclear, sounds like "fighters".
* IMHO, 615 should sound more silky, like he's trying to seduce Jyrras (Dan should sound kind of dead, but that's not your line).
* 618: Problem: It's clipping badly when he shouts. Do you think you could do just that bit again a few times, further away from the mic? I can increase the volume my end, but if it clips, I can't really use it.
*REdo 218 and 519
*Ink attempt(Just 'cause I like saying "MY tea tastes like joy now")
*Scream of rage
*get something I missed *will listen through to find where that is >>*
*Various incomprehensible noises, eh? I like it!
Anything I'm missing?
Quote from: insanekaosx on August 02, 2006, 08:11:13 AM
Okay, compiling a list of thigns I need to do. Woke up at an ungodly hour due to people and their lawn work, so I've time to do some recording
*get something I missed *will listen through to find where that is >>*
*Various incomprehensible noises, eh? I like it!
Anything I'm missing?
526-536 inclusive. It's such a big gap, I assumed it was the back-at-lost-lake segment. When you come to do the tour, a few comments might be handy, like "..and this is the library..". Since I don't know what the second location is, we could do something like "..and this is.. oh, hi!".
We'll also need voices for the people he meets on the tour (Dave, Katie and the blue mythos), and I'll need to somehow arrange a squeaking sound for the cart. And we need Nirfy.
There was also a recording that was somewhat noisy and caused artifacts after NR, but I can't remember where. If I can't hear it here, it's probably not worth worrying about but I'll double-check tonight if I remember (and I'll have to do all that other stuff I forgot about and couldn't do while I was trying to force Windows to actually work)
Okay, got'cha. Will get to work on it as soon as I relocate the mac to my room.
Well, redid those ones you asked for. I hope I got thigns better this time >> I don't think 526 and 530 came out great, so I might try those again. 531 I just added a small bit in at the end that you're free to cut >> Very small bit, but...
I also fail at varying my voice enough. Sounded too much like Abel while trying an Ink, ah well.
My mic isn't good enough to handle a scream of rage, so I'll keep tryign and get that to ya when I can *Hopefully soon*
Will upload the files soon, just going to do a couple new comics since I have time >> Maybe start on Abel's Story <<
Quote"Warrior For Hire" is the only complete broadcast-length episode, but there are lots and lots of shorter test segments, including the individual segments that I compiled into "Warrior For Hire".
The link is the one in my signature, http://dmfa.it-he.org
James also has a site here: http://www.crystaltopia.com/DMFA%20Stuff.htm
Ok, thanks, I'll check as soon is I can! :)
kaos, dont dbl post plxkthxn! D:
I double posted? I could'a sworn there was a post between the two, sorry.
*WTB Post deletion option*
Transfering the mass of recordings right now, will have them uploaded later tonight hopefully
http://www.box.net/public/zvtd0iypzv
Bam. Finished the main storyline, up to where Amber is in it at least :P
I don't really mind, but the Fun Police™ will get you if you double post D:
I actually like Ink's reverse reverb effect... I love how evil it sounds. The 'big shiny buttons' line made me crack up.
Quote from: insanekaosx on August 02, 2006, 06:13:49 PM
Transfering the mass of recordings right now, will have them uploaded later tonight hopefully
Bam. Finished the main storyline, up to where Amber is in it at least :P
That's pretty good. #625 could do with a bit more whimpering, but overall I like them. Thanks.
Okay, here's an experimental clip from the SAIA#3 segment, with a score. I'd like some feedback on whether it works, hence the DP.
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/saia3score.wav.mp3
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 03, 2006, 05:13:01 PM
Okay, here's an experimental clip from the SAIA#3 segment, with a score. I'd like some feedback on whether it works, hence the DP.
I think it sounds great. The music is different from what I've been hearing-- more playful than the fight scene scores. It's perfect for the situation.
James, I can't even begin to express how well your voice fits Dan's character. It's just... wow.
Quote from: Hilary on August 03, 2006, 07:23:25 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 03, 2006, 05:13:01 PM
Okay, here's an experimental clip from the SAIA#3 segment, with a score. I'd like some feedback on whether it works, hence the DP.
I think it sounds great. The music is different from what I've been hearing-- more playful than the fight scene scores. It's perfect for the situation.
It has a sort of carnival feel to it IMHO, which may or may not be appropriate. Tonight I also wrote the darker section following it, which reminds me of the FM organ prelude in Monkey Island. Last night, I only had the carnival bit which gets boring after a while. I might also add another bit specifically for Ink, if I can devise one.
I'd already decided that for the in-SAIA scenes, I wanted to do everything on organ where possible. This one is using the 'Church C#' patch on the Hammond XM*. In the earlier SAIA segment, (http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/trapped_in_saia2.mp3) it uses a custom set, and I brought in synthesizers for the horrific section (including one pretending to be a Hammond, bizarrely enough).
In my head, I've already decided on the music for Dan's tour. I'll need to make some squeaking sounds, though. And we still need Nirfy.
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James, I can't even begin to express how well your voice fits Dan's character. It's just... wow.
Yes. Some of the new parts are incredible.
* 005320000 on the upper manual, 004545440 on lower, and 06 on pedals. As if anyone actually cares.
I rather like that Ink voice as well, it just.... fits so well to how i imagined it.
And is much better than I could do.
More whimpering? I'm on it! Except, not right now >> Maybe tommorow
QuoteI'll agree.
That's it, Circle gets the square!
'Tis wonderful how things are coming. The wonderful voices are synched together very nicely. That music does add an interesting touch to things. The organ seem fitting for such a place.
I'm sure I'd care about the pedals, if only I actually knew what they were.:januscat
Quote from: Lysander on August 04, 2006, 11:07:32 AM
QuoteI'll agree.
That's it, Circle gets the square!
'Tis wonderful how things are coming. The wonderful voices are synched together very nicely. That music does add an interesting touch to things. The organ seem fitting for such a place.
I'm sure I'd care about the pedals, if only I actually knew what they were.:januscat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammond_organ
The Hammond has three keyboards, upper, lower and a pedal board at the bottom which is played with your feet. Each one can be set to have a different tone.
The tones are controlled by mixing harmonics together - you have 9 knobs which can be pulled out to 8 different intensities (and off). This can be expressed as a 9-digit number.
If you took the numbers I gave above, and set the drawbars up on another Hammond organ, you should get the same sounds. Mine was a digitally modelled, so it might not be quite the same on a proper tonewheel organ.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 03, 2006, 05:13:01 PM
Okay, here's an experimental clip from the SAIA#3 segment, with a score. I'd like some feedback on whether it works, hence the DP.
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/saia3score.wav.mp3
O_o...*falls over laughing*
I'm sorry...that "jumper cables" line is just a bit too funny for me. *wipes tears of laughter from eyes*
The music definitely works...The lines are great (especially Dan's...) and it's all around goodness.
Quote from: May Rewanz on August 05, 2006, 08:55:00 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 03, 2006, 05:13:01 PM
Okay, here's an experimental clip from the SAIA#3 segment, with a score. I'd like some feedback on whether it works, hence the DP.
O_o...*falls over laughing*
I'm sorry...that "jumper cables" line is just a bit too funny for me. *wipes tears of laughter from eyes*
The music definitely works...The lines are great (especially Dan's...) and it's all around goodness.
Catherine Willington, I presume?* Welcome to the new forums. I've just played with the new Mab recordings, the ones with the bedsheet trick. That's a whole lot better. Do you think you could redo Mab's lines for the SAIA arc in this manner? If so, I'll use them in the next rev of the SAIA 3 arc.
* If that's not you, I'm so sorry!
Yes, now the numbers and organ make sense. This one knows...very little, when it comes to things like synthesizers. :januscat
Yes, 'tis me Mr. Morris. I'll do the SAIA arc either tonight or tomorrow morning...that along with the May Rewanz lines perhaps?
Quote from: Catherine Willington on August 05, 2006, 07:53:46 PM
Yes, 'tis me Mr. Morris. I'll do the SAIA arc either tonight or tomorrow morning...that along with the May Rewanz lines perhaps?
Yes, that would be excellent. I'll have to ask Shadrok about Cid again too.
For now, goodnight.
Almost finished updating my DMFA Radio page. While I was updating though, I found a couple new out-takes I forgot to add. They are:
http://www.crystaltopia.com/Sound%20Files/Extras/Outtakes/GrrCough.mp3
http://www.crystaltopia.com/Sound%20Files/Extras/Outtakes/Phonetrouble.mp3
(I had a LOT of trouble with the phone that day)
The background music gives the perfect mood for SAIA.
Quote from: Catherine Willington on August 05, 2006, 08:55:00 AM
The lines are great (especially Dan's...)
I didn't do it, I swear! Oh... wait... you
liked my lines? (Looks like I corrupted another one...)
Oh, and welcome to the forum! Hope to hear more from you!
Quote from: Hilary on August 03, 2006, 07:23:25 PMJames, I can't even begin to express how well your voice fits Dan's character. It's just... wow.
I can't believe I'm getting everyone's minds corrupted!
Actually, being serious now, thanks for the compliment! Thanks from everyone! When Miaka first suggested this project, I wondered what poor fool would have to play Dan (and yes, I do concider myself a fool (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/Jamestongue.gif)). I didn't think I'd fit him well at first, but I think I've grown into it. We've got a great team though (including yourselves), it's not just me... really!
edit> Hahaha! Looking back in the old thread it looks like I tried to get out of doing Dan a couple times! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/Jamestongue.gif)
...BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
Oh gods...I have a new appreciation for the laughter medicine given by outtakes. When you said "phone trouble" I thought microphone...took me a couple listens to figure out you meant the telephone...
I'll have to remember to save any bloopers that I happen to create...I bet in a year or so we could all have about 10 cumulative minutes of bloopers or something...
And a question for J.P., just wondering, but how do you get the "bleep" sounds? Is it a download or a setting in Audacity or other sound program?
Quote from: Catherine Willington on August 06, 2006, 09:56:44 AM
And a question for J.P., just wondering, but how do you get the "bleep" sounds? Is it a download or a setting in Audacity or other sound program?
James, I must remember never, never to cross you. That growl thing scared the s___ out of me.
Catherine, for the bleep, select the word (or bit of word) you don't like, and use the 'Generate Tone' option in 'Generate'. Use a sinewave at 1000hz and about 0.5 for the amplitude.
Now this is a first. With apologies to Amber and B. A. Robertson, Merlitz sings 'Kool in the Kaftan'
(http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/conversions/hippymerl.png) (http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/test/merlitz_kool.mp3)
..you have no idea how difficult it was to sing in-character!
I never did get the weird chunky organ bit to sound right, and I didn't want to sample the record. If you like it, buy the original song and give Mr. Robertson some money.
Heheheh, nice outtakes, James. We should probably try saving our mistakes, as they come out to be quite funny. :mowdan
And JP, that song? Quite funky, and by funky I mean quite funny too :mowtongue I was tempted to hum along. XD
I think this is the first post I've made on the new Radio Project thread. Probably about time I showed myself anyway.
I forget how many of the new Matilda recordings I've put up...but here's the one I had a bit of fun with, trying to get the fear thing down. Pancake ferret! :mowdizzy http://rapidshare.de/files/28413863/MatildaNew92.wav.html (I have another one that has the same inflection but doesn't seem kinda screechy)
Probably about time for the new Moira too... http://rapidshare.de/files/28414285/MoiraNew1.wav.html
And...just something for people to laugh at for the stupidness and amateur quality of recording :3 I was testing out my voices and came up with this sorta...very short fan-skit thing with them both. Introducing: Moira Goes Shopping. http://rapidshare.de/files/28414977/Moira_Goes_Shopping.ogg.html
(It's in OGG format, hope that's okay with some of you...somehow I can't put it into an MP3 file yet, and this was the best way to compress it a little)
Anyways, great job to all of you with recordings. Especially Dan, I agree. :P
O_o...Odd song...I'm afraid to say more. ;)
Thanks for the bleep instructs...am playing around with other thingies on Audacity and was wondering how to do it.
((P.S. Recordings might be a bit late...am having to go through my closet for back-to-school stuff...))
Quote from: James StarRunner on August 06, 2006, 02:27:10 AM
(I had a LOT of trouble with the phone that day)
Hehe. I've got a couple of recordings like that, pity I didn't save them. You guys probably could have added a couple of useful words to your vocabulary... XD
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on August 06, 2006, 12:28:13 PM
And JP, that song? Quite funky, and by funky I mean quite funny too :mowtongue I was tempted to hum along. XD
It's not a patch on the original - I just wanted to see what it would turn out like with Merlitz singing it. AFAIK it is featured on the albums 'Initial Success' and 'Platinum Collection'. You can probably get it on iTunes or something though.
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It's in OGG format, hope that's okay with some of you...
It's my preference actually. I'll comment on the recordings later on..
Quote from: Catherine Willington on August 06, 2006, 01:10:40 PM
O_o...Odd song...I'm afraid to say more. ;)
You don't have to like it. It was just something I put together as an amusement.
Now: here's my latest version of SAIA #3. It has the complete organ score, which thanks to the arpeggiation is now so complex it requires three hands and a foot, and can therefore only be played by two organists, some kind of sequencer or a 'cubi with wing-tentacles.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia3_2.wav.mp3
Since we still need Nirfy, I have done her myself. In all other respects I believe it is complete, although I could do with a higher quality recording of Mab.
**EDIT** and more 'angry Abel' sounds, done by Insane instead of me.
The song was amusing...it's not like I hated it or anything.
Did you get my message saying I had uploaded the lines...J.P.?
Quote from: Catherine Willington on August 06, 2006, 07:13:25 PM
The song was amusing...it's not like I hated it or anything.
Did you get my message saying I had uploaded the lines...J.P.?
I have now. I'll deal with it tomorrow. My current priority is to do 'the SAIA arc', although to be honest, exactly where I'll begin and end is not clear-cut. A lot of it is going to depend on how long it is when the entire thing is complete. It will need to be split into two episodes if it runs over about 25 minutes. But to cover all bases I'm probably going to do everything from Aary's letter to Fa'Lina up until just before they go to the mall.
It doesn't matter how mant times I listen, I still laugh constantly. Not even reading the comic at the same time and it's all great. The sound effects also go along great. :januscat
I'll do what I can about more whining and angry. Soon. I hope.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 06, 2006, 05:43:31 PM
Now: here's my latest version of SAIA #3. It has the complete organ score, which thanks to the arpeggiation is now so complex it requires three hands and a foot, and can therefore only be played by two organists, some kind of sequencer or a 'cubi with wing-tentacles.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia3_2.wav.mp3
Since we still need Nirfy, I have done her myself. In all other respects I believe it is complete, although I could do with a higher quality recording of Mab.
**EDIT** and more 'angry Abel' sounds, done by Insane instead of me.
For my part - I have one minor niggle.
Arc 18, strip 518, panel 3 & 4... I would put the -rip- before the rest of the sentence...
So, "Well, in that case, " *rip* "I'll just..."
Arguably, of course, but I take it to be a "full steam ahead and damn the torpedos" situation - in Abel's case, mostly because he's fairly sure he's immune to anything Dan can do, but the effect is someone who is -very- arrogant, and hence is not likely to notice that Dan has clenched and gone over the edge...
At least, not immediately.
Does that make sense? Current, you have the rip showing up just before "Dan?" in panel 4, which, to my mind, shows Abel being rather more sensitive than I'd expected for this particular point - in this case, he's aware and worried, whereas I read him as being mildly oblivious, and if he *does* notice, he's not -that- worried...
I'll just stop flogging this particular dead horse, ok? :-)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 07, 2006, 10:51:36 AM
For my part - I have one minor niggle.
Arc 18, strip 518, panel 3 & 4... I would put the -rip- before the rest of the sentence...
So, "Well, in that case, " *rip* "I'll just..."
Arguably, of course, but I take it to be a "full steam ahead and damn the torpedos" situation - in Abel's case, mostly because he's fairly sure he's immune to anything Dan can do, but the effect is someone who is -very- arrogant, and hence is not likely to notice that Dan has clenched and gone over the edge...
I did play around with various placements, but I settled on that because the timing just 'seemed right'. The other thing is that Dan is going to yell pretty soon after he sees (and is able to believe) what Abel is doing. The rip sound worked quite well on top of Abel - Dan's yell that early on would probably not be so intelligible.
To be honest, I thought you were going to complain that we bring Ink back too soon after the Nirfy attack (and I am going to try and fix that at some point).
You mean you've got me pegged as complaining? Man. And here I was trying to be all helpful and stuff. :-/
My grasp of what Dan was doing at this stage was shocked into silence, as it were. Hence the missing consonants... YMMV, of course.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 07, 2006, 01:36:04 PM
You mean you've got me pegged as complaining? Man. And here I was trying to be all helpful and stuff. :-/
That was perhaps the wrong way to put it. A great many of the things you've spotted could indeed be improved, and I hope you'll continue to spot things.
QuoteMy grasp of what Dan was doing at this stage was shocked into silence, as it were. Hence the missing consonants... YMMV, of course.
I'm not quite sure what you mean here..
Uh...
"then I'll just.."
*rip*
... dan gets shocked to the point of being unable to make -any- noises...
"redesign it to meet SAIA standards... Dan?"
"a.. aa.. oo.. oo.. oee"
"ooo, very good try. Now let's see if we can get the consonants."
...
You see how it sortof follows the theme? First silenced, then unable to speak clearly, then recovered. Ish. Well, as recovered as Dan gets, anyway.
(oh, and I wasn't really serious about objecting to being called complaining. My skin is a trifle thicker than that. Heck, my skin is thicker than most :-)
hey J.P., can I do the bunny dude, its only one line, Click here to listen (http://media.putfile.com/pip-attack)
if you think I can do someone else let me know.
GabrielsThoughts, that's totally unusable under anything that's not windows... And I doubt it's usable to shove into the tape, since it's not downloadable in mp3, wav, or ogg format...
I *could* be wrong, and I'll wait for Tapewolf to confirm, but if he can't get a file, he can't open that in his sound mangling app...
You may want to look into opening up a photobucket account, or if you email the file to me, I can dump it on my webserver for him...
If you dismantle the page, you can get at the WAV file inside. If it was a WMA file or something then I would have thrown a hissy-fit. As it is, that's not too bad although rather inconvenient, especially when there are multiple files.
You could just email it to me or James or Llearch or someone. I couldn't really hear it properly at work, I'll try it out later tonight.
The voice is good. We already have someone for pip though. Before e-mailing it could you rerecord it with the following changes?: Without Pip sounds, exchange "What the..." with "AIIIIII! Get it off!" with some additional screams, and to more easily eliminate the background noise without much distortion could you speak up a bit more too?
As I said, the voice is good and I think it fits the character well. I hope those changes won't be much of a bother.
*Charles sighs* I have no microphone, otherwise this is something that sounds like fun. I used to do semi-professional acting in a dinner murder mystery-comedy theater at Dave & Buster's in Philadelphia for a couple of years, until graduate school and a new lab job made the time requirements too difficult to meet. *chuckles* We actually had Kage and Susan Deer there for two shows... and we secretly set Kage up to be the murderer in the second one. That was a blast. :laugh
Ah, the days long past when I had time to be really creative. :meh
is this better?
Click here to listen (http://media.putfile.com/pipattack2)
if you want It's also broken into three seperate recordings, I just fused them for convienence
Quote from: Alondro on August 08, 2006, 01:35:56 PM
*Charles sighs* I have no microphone, otherwise this is something that sounds like fun.
Aww... too bad. It sounds like you'd be a great addition!
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on August 08, 2006, 02:11:31 PM
is this better?
Click here to listen (http://media.putfile.com/pipattack2)
Oh, forgot to warn you... When yelling, it's easy for the sound to "clip". What I always have to end up doing is to lower the mic sensitivity (recording volume) for yells/screams. The acting's great, it's just the sound quality for the yells now.
THis is just the voice acting portion of the flies, the screaming isn't working out.
Click here to listen to hiya-how-you-doing (http://media.putfile.com/hiya-how-you-doing)
Click here to listen to get-it-off (http://media.putfile.com/get-it-offs)
Hehe...I had to laugh at the slight "ad-lib" of "let go of my finger". Although you might want to change it to "let go of my ankle" if you do decide to do a line like that. If I'm not mistaken, there's a little something of a running joke about Pip being an "ankle biter".
James has hit the nail on the head. It looks like this:
(http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/clipping.png)
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/clipping.png
The screams sound a little contrived too, but I like the voice.
I'm not sure how you do really good screams.. I've managed to do some passable ones, but James seems to be the master.
This is from the comic cliche storyline is it not? That's not on my list of priorities.
If you want to do Bon, though, that might be more useful in the near term. We'll assume that Bon is male (although it's hard to tell with Taski)
Hehe...I had to laugh at the slight "ad-lib" of "let go of my finger". Although you might want to change it to "let go of my ankle" if you do decide to do a line like that. If I'm not mistaken, there's a little something of a running joke about Pip being an "ankle biter".
Edit: ((ARGH! Stupid double post monster!!))
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 08, 2006, 03:07:45 PM
James has hit the nail on the head. It looks like this:
(http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/clipping.png)
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/clipping.png
The screams sound a little contrived too, but I like the voice.
I'm not sure how you do really good screams.. I've managed to do some passable ones, but James seems to be the master.
This is from the comic cliche storyline is it not? That's not on my list of priorities.
If you want to do Bon, though, that might be more useful in the near term. We'll assume that Bon is male (although it's hard to tell with Taski)
I believe the official word is that Bon is female... Stuff like this never comes out though so *shrug*
If you play it at 32khz instead of 22khz it makes a really keen 'kid' voice.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 08, 2006, 04:05:02 PM
If you play it at 32khz instead of 22khz it makes a really keen 'kid' voice.
darn my cherokee ancestry, oh well whatever works...
I don't think I could do bon that well anyway it requires a smothe talking snake oil salesman not an not a ritilin deprived urbanite. I still tried doing one of the panels though.
Click here to listen to good-question (http://media.putfile.com/good-question)
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on August 08, 2006, 05:07:31 PM
I don't think I could do bon that well anyway it requires a smothe talking snake oil salesman not an not a ritilin deprived urbanite. I still tried doing one of the panels though.
I think it's quite good. There's a
Problem with the
Po
PPing though. Try speaking across the mic instead of directly into it.
This and other recording tips can be found here: http://dmfa.it-he.org/howto.htm
By the way, you might want to try Rapidshare or www.files.bz - that Putfile thing only plays half the recording and I have to hack it to download the wav file :-/
Since no one seems to be trying for Nirfy, here's my shot. I had to redo it so many times that my throat hurts... shouting is not my thing. I might have pronounced 'bishonen' wrong...
http://rapidshare.de/files/28788138/526_Nirfy.wav.html
Quote from: Hilary on August 09, 2006, 01:06:57 PM
Since no one seems to be trying for Nirfy, here's my shot. I had to redo it so many times that my throat hurts... shouting is not my thing. I might have pronounced 'bishonen' wrong...
http://rapidshare.de/files/28788138/526_Nirfy.wav.html
To me, Nirfy comes across as being more excitable and uncontrolled, like Dan is the most beautiful thing she's ever seen and she has to have him at any cost. I'll also need some happy or contented sounds to go with Dan's screaming (which I took from the Mow scene, by the way).
Don't get me wrong, that's a good voice. I'm just not convinced it fully expresses what she is doing. And I don't know how 'bishonen' is pronounced either..
Just out of interest.... where was it the list of the names you're still looking for was? :-)
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 09, 2006, 01:51:01 PM
To me, Nirfy comes across as being more excitable and uncontrolled, like Dan is the most beautiful thing she's ever seen and she has to have him at any cost.
Some of the ones I recorded were a lot more out of control, but they had some serious clipping going on. I'm not sure if I can lower the mic sensitivity, since the mic I'm using is built into the computer (it's a Macintosh.) Is that something you can change in audacity, or does it have to be changed on the mic itself?
Anyway, I'll give it another shot as soon is my house is empty and quiet again.
QuoteAnd I don't know how 'bishonen' is pronounced either...
A pronunciation can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishonen) at the wikipedia article, but my computer is too old, clunky, and stupid that whenever I try to listen, it freezes up.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 09, 2006, 01:57:04 PM
Just out of interest.... where was it the list of the names you're still looking for was? :-)
On James' site. http://www.crystaltopia.com/DMFA%20stuff.htm
Hilary, according to that site it's pronounced somewhere between 'Bee-shonen' and 'Bish-onen'. Which is not what you or I did.
Audacity
should allow you to change the volume level with the slider at the top, but whether that works on the MacOS I don't know. I don't know how to do it through the OS on the Mac either, although I can tell you how its done in the Linux or Windows. There's got to be a soft volume control somewhere.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 09, 2006, 02:12:21 PM
Audacity should allow you to change the volume level with the slider at the top, but whether that works on the MacOS I don't know.
Aha... Effects< Amplify does the trick. :3
Quote from: Hilary on August 09, 2006, 02:25:52 PM
Aha... Effects< Amplify does the trick. :3
Actually that's only changing the volume of the
recording after it's been made. It won't prevent it from overloading and it doesn't have such a good effect on too-quiet recordings either. you really need to change the incoming level if at all possible.
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/audacity1.png
..in this screenshot, the input volume slider is at the top, below the record, pause and stop buttons. As you can see it doesn't actually work in my setup.. but I'd try it on yours and see if it does work on the Mac version.
As far as I know *Not claiming to be a master of the Japanese language or anything*, its pronounced bee-shonen. At least, thats how yellign it like that would be pronounced, according to the fangirls of America. Bi-shonen seems more right when I'm sjsut saying it though.
MY brothers hoem from camp, so my ability to use the mac has been greatly decreased. I'm still trying.
edit> Audacity is also much more basic than that on Macs. Well, on MacOS9.x at least. Actually, probably just cause you have so many files there, and an extra bar or two on top :P >>
Quote from: insanekaosx on August 09, 2006, 02:40:02 PM
edit> Audacity is also much more basic than that on Macs. Well, on MacOS9.x at least.
Yes, and how annoying it is. *eyetwitch* The one I'm on now is OS9, and lacks all the fancy stuff. My laptop has that mic slider bar on it, I think, as that one is OSX. But it, conveniently enough, is broken, and I have to go through all this wierd stuff to make it so that the screen works. It's annoying as heck, but I'll see if I can record this bit on it instead.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 09, 2006, 02:12:21 PM
On James' site. http://www.crystaltopia.com/DMFA%20stuff.htm
Hmm. I should go through the scripts and match names to names, perhaps. Or at least provide a transfer map?
... Not unless anyone complains, I guess. I've done enough on it as it is :-)
Quote from: Hilary on August 09, 2006, 02:03:21 PM
QuoteAnd I don't know how 'bishonen' is pronounced either...
A pronunciation can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishonen) at the wikipedia article, but my computer is too old, clunky, and stupid that whenever I try to listen, it freezes up.
Bishounen is pronounced "bee show nen". You're supposed to stretch out the "o" sound slightly, almost like "bee sho-oh nen" (the long "o" is often dropped from the romanization), but that won't be as noticeable when you're shouting. Japanese is pronounced the way it's spelled, so you just have to remember how they pronounce each vowel sound:
"a" rhymes with ah.
"e" rhymes with bleh.
"i" rhymes with bee.
"o" rhymes with go.
"u" rhymes with zoo.
Uh... I had some other comments to make, but I got distracted and forgot what they were. :mowdizzy
I'm having one or two problems with the next bit of SAIA. If anyone can produce a decent squeak-squeak-squeak sound for the cart, that would be helpful. I'll keep trying, though.
Also, if I mangled a famous (but out-of-copyright) piece of music because I'm not a sufficiently competent musician, would anyone mind..?
P.S, moderators - if you wish to move this to Tower of Art, that's fine by me. I'm kind of assuming the reason it's survived here for so long is because Amber somehow vetoed it..
Okay, here's the next instalment of the SAIA arc:
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia4a.wav.mp3
Known problems:
- Need a better squeaking sound
- Fa'lina: too loud (my fault), Blade's recordings are damaged, don't have a recording for #536
- Vending machine isn't ready yet, also cookie sounds
- Score is too dynamic.. use compression?
- No-one has offered voices for Dave, Kate or the blue succubus watching Dan roll away
Originally I was hoping to use
The Sorcerer's Apprentice, locked in time with the squeaks. I have a demo clip of it, in fact, but that piece of music is extremely complex and I couldn't do it without stealing. I gave up the struggle and used
Anitra's Dance from Peer Gynt instead. Yes, it's a rearrangement of the MIDI I wrote for 'A Day at the People Factory'.
squeaky...squeaky...squeaky..squeaky.squeakysqueaky*
Still sounds pretty great. The only problems I noticed are the ones you have already pointed out. :januscat
Ya, looks like it still needs a lot of work like you pointed out.
Looks like Insane really had to step up to the plate for Abel this time. I've been noticing improvement too. And holy cow, that must be the most upset I've ever heard myself! (I scare myself...)
Quote from: James StarRunner on August 21, 2006, 02:38:29 PM
Ya, looks like it still needs a lot of work like you pointed out.
In part I released this to try and get people to fill in the missing roles. You don't want
me to do them now, do you? :twisted
QuoteLooks like Insane really had to step up to the plate for Abel this time. I've been noticing improvement too. And holy cow, that must be the most upset I've ever heard myself! (I scare myself...)
What about 609?
Anyway, I'm going to try and fix the score later tonight and maybe some of the levels if I have time. The squeaking still eludes me, though... I used the castors on my bed for that, and it still sounds wrong. Any idea how it is done in films or cartoons?
609? You sure? I thought it would have been the growling part on #485.
As for the squeaks, I don't think I can help there. Everything here is old, but nothing really squeaks. We had a VCR that developed a really good squeak, but we trashed it long ago.
I was just thinking - I jsut went through and oiled all the squeaky doors...
I *did* have an idea or two, though damnedif I can remember them now. Oh, yes - would a slow squeak, sped up somewhat and mangled via sound processing, be somethig that might help? The idea I had was something like indicating that the cart that, I presume, Ink supplied to Abel, was, as is appropriate for Ink, specially crafted to be annoying and off-balance...
Given Ink thrives on aggro, making a cart that frustrates whoever is listening to, or pulling it, seems just like his cup of tea.
So to speak.
I just remembered that my old red wagon is out in the shed, buried under mounds of crap. I'll see if I can find it and make it produce a suitable squeaking sound.
And just to let you know, my sister and I haven't forgotten about the kid Abel lines, we're working on them.^^ We just don't have a lot of overlap time when we're both at the house these days.
What about the squeaks for the "Squeaky Koala of Doom" used in Warrior for Hire?
Speaking of which...
I know that this has been under some debate for some time...what with the slight alteration to Lore's part in Dan vs. Pegasus...but I went ahead and did this just for the fun of it.
I now have on my computer images set to the Warrior for Hire arc (turned it into a movie pretty much), albeit in three pieces. I also happen to have a YouTube account...which I can upload them to and make it private so that only those with the links can watch (I'm pretty sure that's how that setting works).
Do you guys think I should go ahead and post the links here...or should we ask special permission of Amber since there were slight alterations to the images, albeit only cut/paste alterations?
And, now the busy part of my summer is over and done with.
Any lines that need redoing, I had a list of DMFA things somewhere, but I can't find it anymore. So, yeah >> Will also get started on the Abel story bit stuff soon.
I can probably do Bon tomorrow if you'd like, since I'm not busy. . . (ot) and I'll be starting classes for the fall semester next week.
Err... Bon's a girl. Actually while I'm at it, I believe Nightmyste who Poofy played is actually a girl too.
Quote from: Catherine Willington on August 21, 2006, 08:05:02 PM
What about the squeaks for the "Squeaky Koala of Doom" used in Warrior for Hire?
That sounds too much like a squeaky toy. Also I've just got one sample of it - I need several to prevent it sounding repetitive, which is the big problem with the castors at the moment.
Quote from: insanekaosx on August 21, 2006, 10:00:36 PM
And, now the busy part of my summer is over and done with.
Any lines that need redoing, I had a list of DMFA things somewhere, but I can't find it anymore. So, yeah >> Will also get started on the Abel story bit stuff soon.
I'm pretty sure it will be on one of the forums. If not, I'll make another list, but not right now.
Quote from: James StarRunner on August 22, 2006, 02:02:37 AM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on August 21, 2006, 10:56:02 PM
I can probably do Bon tomorrow if you'd like, since I'm not busy. . . (ot) and I'll be starting classes for the fall semester next week.
Err... Bon's a girl. Actually while I'm at it, I believe Nightmyste who Poofy played is actually a girl too.
Could have fooled me. Do it anyway, Gabriel - otherwise it will probably have to be me anyway. (How can we get more voice actresses?)
Quote from: Catherine Willington on August 21, 2006, 08:05:02 PMSpeaking of [Warrior for Hire]...
I know that this has been under some debate for some time...what with the slight alteration to Lore's part in Dan vs. Pegasus...but I went ahead and did this just for the fun of it.
At one point I was working on a modded set of strips for that section. I didn't get too far, though - just the first couple of frames.
Quote
I now have on my computer images set to the Warrior for Hire arc (turned it into a movie pretty much), albeit in three pieces. I also happen to have a YouTube account...which I can upload them to and make it private so that only those with the links can watch (I'm pretty sure that's how that setting works).
Do you guys think I should go ahead and post the links here...or should we ask special permission of Amber since there were slight alterations to the images, albeit only cut/paste alterations?
Amber seems to clam up when people use the p-word, so don't bank on a speedy reply. Be that as it may, I'd definitely like to see it even if the links are kept private.
I know of one particular squeak that always gets used for squeaky things of that exact sort, but I just don't know where in the net-web i'm going to find it... And I don't think anyone should forget if something is moving faster, the squeak should probably end up getting exponentially higher pitched before being impossible to hear... right? I don't have anything to squeak in here... I don't even know what i'm talking about anymore *dies of confusion*
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 22, 2006, 04:31:50 AM
Quote from: insanekaosx on August 21, 2006, 10:00:36 PM
Any lines that need redoing, I had a list of DMFA things somewhere, but I can't find it anymore. So, yeah >> Will also get started on the Abel story bit stuff soon.
I'm pretty sure it will be on one of the forums. If not, I'll make another list, but not right now.
I have a list, but I haven't been keeping it up to date...
If someone wants to pm me specific updates, I'll happily pile them in, but I haven't had time to listen to all the sequences and make notes...
Oh, yes. it's at http://flawed.perception.co.nz/radio/ with the scripts.
Found one squeak sample...It's horrid...but it may help.
http://newweb.tread.net/download/prog_01/wav/sounds/squeek.wav
As for the movie...maybe post the first part as a preview...and then the rest when I get a response from Miss Amber?
Quote from: Catherine Willington on August 22, 2006, 06:59:02 AM
As for the movie...maybe post the first part as a preview...and then the rest when I get a response from Miss Amber?
As long as it's clearly attributed, to the original copyright owner, that meets the copyright laws.
What it doesn't meet is the expectation of politeness for Amber, really. I mean - how much warning have you given her that you want to do this? At time of posting, I make it 11 hours and 3 minutes. Assuming she has a computer, is reading the boards right now, and doesn't sleep, that's ok. I think all three of those are somewhat questionable, don't you? :-)
Not that I'm objecting - I'm merely suggesting that you might want to give her a week, say, to respond. After all, we expect her to be getting her machine back sometime this week, with luck, right? Surely she gets a chance to get it set up how she wants, with her pallets and drawing tools and stuff - that sort of thing can take days to sort out, if not weeks. If you were in her position, wouldn't you want to be allowed some time to sort things out?
.. and that's not even taking into account the Canada Migration v2.0...
Just my 2p...
Edit: You didn't mention emailing her, and, given her machine situation, chances are she's lost whatever emails she had, so...
Touche'. And yes...I have added in the file itself who the comic belongs to and where it can be found at...for all three parts. And yes, I do realize that it's highly unlikely that Amber will have a quick response...which is why I suggested the preview. Another reason that I suggested just putting the first part up was because of one of my other projects...in which I needed to show an as-complete-as-possible-at-that-time piece to the owner of the webcomic before I could post on the forum to ask for voices. So the preview would kind of be like saying "Yes, I am serious about this"...or something to that extent.
And as for contact...I have e-mailed her regarding this...and once again do realize that it could take (and I quote) "5 billion years to respond". :mowwink
Thanks for the input, I really do relish this stuff. :mowsmile
Quote from: Catherine Willington on August 22, 2006, 07:25:00 AM
Touche'. And yes...I have added in the file itself who the comic belongs to and where it can be found at...for all three parts. And yes, I do realize that it's highly unlikely that Amber will have a quick response...which is why I suggested the preview. Another reason that I suggested just putting the first part up was because of one of my other projects...in which I needed to show an as-complete-as-possible-at-that-time piece to the owner of the webcomic before I could post on the forum to ask for voices. So the preview would kind of be like saying "Yes, I am serious about this"...or something to that extent.
Indeed. A balance has to be struck between getting permission and then not being able to act on it, and having the entire thing turned down by the author.
With LoDT, the first published recordings were made last June. I completed the first draft in July and began working on the final version. Around October(?) I formally asked Amber for permission, but didn't get an actual refusal until January after two emails and one PM spaced over many weeks (the final mixdown of the album having happened in December). I'm not holding this against Amber you understand, I'm just sharing my experiences in asking her for permission, and I've seen similar things from others.
Anyway, whatever she may think, I'd still like to see it.
Quote
As for contact...I have e-mailed her regarding this...and once again do realize that it could take (and I quote) "5 billion years to respond". :mowwink
Thanks for the input, I really do relish this stuff. :mowsmile
Yeah...I know that this could be turned down...but at least I only spent about a day on it (there really wasn't much to do...just cut and past rectangles and stuff). :mowsmile
Although I am thinking about holding off on hosting the first part publicly, since if it is turned down I don't want it to "end like Dark Angel", cut off after only 2 seasons...or in this case 1 part.
Lest it be taken the wrong way - I wasn't suggesting you might be about to do something, merely offering my opinion as to how it might go down the wrong way, should you take the steps you looked likely to take, reasonable as they may seem...
And if that sentence makes no sense to you, I need more sleep :-)
No worries Llearch, your reasons are sound and I myself was slightly hesitant to put the preview up in the first place.
And with the school-year coming (Mine starts tomorrow...how did that happen?), I think we could all use a more sleep. :mowtongue
Scarey news - My son's school starts in a couple weeks. Two weeks, tomorrow, even.
Where -does- the time go...
everytime I try to register with http://www.files.bz/account.php?action=register
Warning: mkdir(/home/files/public_html/files//12746): File exists in /home/files/public_html/includes/functions.inc.php on line 20
Unable to create user folder for userid: 12746. Check directory permission. Registration halted. User not registered.
I recieve this page before I can complete registration I've tried five times, with different user names and passwords.
they are at putfile, and I could send them to you Through e-mail if you would like, and I can post them here
bon line 1 (http://media.putfile.com/bon1-13)
bon line 2 (http://media.putfile.com/bon2-21)
bon line 3 (http://media.putfile.com/bon3)
bon line 4 (http://media.putfile.com/bon4)
bon line 5 (http://media.putfile.com/bon5)
bon line 6 (http://media.putfile.com/bon6)
all done.
Be it known that I dislike Putfile, since I have to crack the page open and view the source code in order to get at the WAV file. Six isn't too bad, but 20 or so and it's just nasty.
Anyway, my main point, my two main points, my three.. Among my many points are the following:
1. I like Gabriel's rendition of Bon.
2. I have replaced the SAIA 4 recording with a new one. The volume levels for the cast are more normalised. The music has been compressed and otherwise tweaked to give it a more even level throughtout. And I messed around with the squeaking a bit.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia4a.wav.mp3
3. I now have Catherine's flic, but I haven't really had a chance to watch it through.
4. We need Nirfy and Kate. Minilion offered to do Dave, I think, we'll see how that turns out. I've also got and annoy Blade over the Fa'Lina recordings >:3
Nirfy's the "bishonen" one right? I might try for that...if that's okay of course.
Interesting point. About 90 seconds in, Dan pronounces "sadist" as "sad"+"ist", rather than, as I'd expect, "say"+"dist"...
Not that I'm complaining, mind. It's just the cognitive dissonance as my mind rolls over it, like a pram over a railway crossing....
I could also comment about the popping in Fa'lina's tracks, however you've already mentioned that :-) And, since I'm using a fairly well-insulating set of headphones (I could record a short track of the average background noise in my workspace, but it's basically white noise - 4 pc's and a laptop, 2 UPS's... not to mention the mains power meter on the wall, and the gas meter over the other side...
yay for working in a basement. On the upside, at least it's reasonably warm here. And not too warm. On the downside, the dehumidifier is sucking 5 litres a day out of the air.... and when it rains, the water pours in the side... *cough*
More seriously, and usefully, I note that recording in the living room, at night, was nicely quiet once the door was shut, so if there's something that you'd like recorded, that my voice might suit, speak up...
So, am I to understand that you really do still need a Nirfy-recording? I was somehow under the impression that you didn't. Ah well, if you feel so inclined to listen, I feel the need to warn you of the horror. The shear unadulterated PG-13 horror. (http://rapidshare.de/files/30544682/thehorror___.wav.html)
Mind you that I currently haven't the access to my own account so I cannot record on Audacity, as such this was done on Microsoft Sound Recorder. Since I understand that this makes it of a lower quality than preferable, this is really only to get an idea as to if this works. If it does than I suppose I'll just have to do my best to get myself on over to beloved Audacity.
Well then, Ja Ne.
.....lower quality? How? If you're recording something in it, the only thing you have to worry about is the 60-second-at-a-time limit.
Quite honestly, I'm really not sure. All I know is what the HOWTO said.
And on a related note... the more I listen to it... the more I loathe it.
Certain versions of Sound recorder seem to default to 8-bit recordings, which are frankly, awful. The recording you've made is 16 bit 22Khz which is perfectly acceptable.
As for the voicing, I must admit it's not really what I had in mind. Something more like Aary's reaction to Jyrras in #522, like she's just seen the most adorable thing in the world and has to have it at any cost.
I need Kate too, though (#530). She doesn't say anything in the comic, but just a simple and fairly musical-sounding "Hello!" would be great. I've got a good one for Dave from Mini-lion although I don't have it to hand.
And a sort of puzzled sound for the 'cubi in #531 would be handy too.
Then for reference, we might as well say sound recorder's recording/playback format/attribute settings can be changed by going to file > properties. (also, PCM would be the default format for the wav file in sound recorder.)
*fails at life. and ramen*
Yeah, so I really didn't think it worked, so I guess I'll just have to go find the Aary recording to get an idea of what you're talking about. Unfortunately I really don't have a very exciting/excitable voice.
Clearly though I'm atleast not being told; "Sienna take your dollarstore mike and get a life." So this is a plus.
Anyways, I'll go explore this concept further.
So far I've neglected the Lost Lake section of SAIA arc, mostly because we seem to have lost our Aaryanna. So I asked Seraline if she'd be interested.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia4b_pre1.wav.mp3
Pitch-wise she falls somewhere between Aary and Tigress. Comments would be welcome..
I really love Tigress's rendition of Aary, but Seraline's seems to fit too, good recording quality as well...
And it just became obvious to me that I'll have to add Mab's mom and dad to the cast list since they'll likely have some ad-lib.
Gah! And I'm off again! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/Jamescry.gif) I've got to move some stuff into my new apartment before I go to work.
Hmm. I should strip out the entire list of speaking parts from the scripts.
*codecodecode*
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 28, 2006, 01:30:11 PM
Hmm. I should strip out the entire list of speaking parts from the scripts.
*codecodecode*
Talking of scripts, where are they located? Flawed Perception isn't working today, and I forgot to take offline copies.
I was wondering if you'd moved it elsewhere or something.
No, just restarted the box, and the startup scripts are, for historical reasons, not complete. Should work now. Sorry about that, there's a more permanent fix in the works, RSN.
It seems the house has emptied for the first time in a while today, I'll try and get some'a those new comics down, angry sounds, and whining sounds *looked back through the thread, seems to be what I was needing*
I'll also take a look at the cast list, see whats empty, do some random stuff for fun.
And then Abel's Story if I get time >>
And James? Not to be a pest, but everytime I look on the lsit, it jsut glares at me. Its Kaos, not Chaos ^^;;
edit> And here we go. The two latest comics with Abel in them, and a couple redone. Plus the following, which I grabbed from James's cast list as free >> If they aren't, feel free to ignore them:
-Norman the grenade wielding squirrel from 67
-the second Jehova's Witness from 114
-dude from 188*not very well done, but hey, can't blame me for trying :P*
-off-panel demon thing from 193 (With a little tweaking to the sound, a minor echo)
-vacationing agent in 453
Abel Stuff: http://www.box.net/public/vsznaheg6h
Non Abel stuff: http://www.box.net/public/k0j7jehhqi
Quote from: insanekaosx on August 28, 2006, 01:54:03 PM
And James? Not to be a pest, but everytime I look on the list, it just glares at me. Its Kaos, not Chaos ^^;;
Erk, fixed it on my end. Not sure about James. I keep calling you 'Insane' anyway... what would you prefer as your handle?
Now, the recordings. I haven't checked the non-Abel ones yet. We pronounce 'warp-aci' as "Warp A.C.". Amber actually says it should be more like 'Ah-see' but we've picked one and we're sticking with it :)
Abel's breakdown is a lot better but the voice still lacks that absolute "keep it away from me!!" panic. I'll give it a go myself unless I forget again, but not tonight.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 28, 2006, 07:15:12 PM
Quote from: insanekaosx on August 28, 2006, 01:54:03 PM
And James? Not to be a pest, but everytime I look on the list, it just glares at me. Its Kaos, not Chaos ^^;;
Erk, fixed it on my end. Not sure about James. I keep calling you 'Insane' anyway... what would you prefer as your handle?
Now, the recordings. I haven't checked the non-Abel ones yet. We pronounce 'warp-aci' as "Warp A.C.". Amber actually says it should be more like 'Ah-see' but we've picked one and we're sticking with it :)
Abel's breakdown is a lot better but the voice still lacks that absolute "keep it away from me!!" panic. I'll give it a go myself unless I forget again, but not tonight.
i'm hoping for the best for an empty house tommorow as well, so i'll give those another go for ya. The non-Abel ones were just for fun, so don't rush yourself to check'em out or anything.
I've grown oddly accustomed to your refering to me as Insane, so call me what you will. The full is InsaneKaos as need, but beyond that Kaos is the norm, but Insane works just as well.
FWIW, the scripts have all been updated, and now contain a list of the people within, along with the number of lines they read in this particular script, in order of appearance.
Any takers? Objections? :-)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 28, 2006, 08:53:30 PM
FWIW, the scripts have all been updated, and now contain a list of the people within, along with the number of lines they read in this particular script, in order of appearance.
Any takers? Objections? :-)
Couple of tweaks:
* 'Jard's Girl' is called Messafint (or Mezzafint, I'm not sure which Amber's settled on).
* In 548, Abel should say "Metamorphosis class?"
It would be nice to have the strip numbers in the list at the top, but not essential.
Messafint has been added. If it becomes Mezzafint, let me know. :-)
And yes, in 548, he *should* say metamorphosis. However, what he actually says is "metaphorphis", which admittedly I didn't have there either - I don't claim to be a perfect typer, so there have been a few of these sorts of typos showing up. However, I've made a conscious decision to avoid changing what Amber has written to what *I* think is correct, on grounds of it's not my work. If the group as a whole agrees to changes, I'll make em, no worries, but I have left a few deliberate "errors" in there because that's what Amber wrote. *shrug*
I realise that she's probably aware of these, and might like to fix them, but, as I said, it's not my work, and hence it's not within my rights to screw around with it. Call it a sense of responsibility towards the group, if you will. :-)
Having said all that - did you want me to change it to metamorphosis, then? I mean, for all I know, Amber has some deep evil plan to make "metaphorphis class" into something that will be a big joke, 6 months down the track... :-) "Oh, we call it that because the professor can't spell." or something equally daft :-)
Finally - what do you mean by "strip numbers at the top" ?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 29, 2006, 08:10:02 AM
And yes, in 548, he *should* say metamorphosis. However, what he actually says is "metaphorphis", which admittedly I didn't have there either - I don't claim to be a perfect typer, so there have been a few of these sorts of typos showing up. However, I've made a conscious decision to avoid changing what Amber has written to what *I* think is correct, on grounds of it's not my work. If the group as a whole agrees to changes, I'll make em, no worries, but I have left a few deliberate "errors" in there because that's what Amber wrote. *shrug*
Granted, but it gets weird when people have to
say it. As it happens, Insane has pronounced it 'metamorphosis' anyway (now that I am on my home machine with all the samples).
QuoteHaving said all that - did you want me to change it to metamorphosis, then? I mean, for all I know, Amber has some deep evil plan to make "metaphorphis class" into something that will be a big joke, 6 months down the track... :-) "Oh, we call it that because the professor can't spell." or something equally daft :-)
Well in that case, we can either change Abel retroactively, or simply ignore the first instance - it's not like people are going to remember the typo anyway. I didn't, and I still have most of the DMFA storyline on call...
QuoteFinally - what do you mean by "strip numbers at the top" ?
In the new section where the characters are listed in order of appearance, I was thinking it would be handy to list the strip number next to them. If that's not too much effort to achieve...
Ah. The strip in which they appear. Hmm. Um. That means recoding the script I wrote to write all that completely.
I'll think about it. Not sure, it may take me a while to figure out what I need to do.
Edit: Hmm. Well, that was easier than I expected. Is that about what you wanted, Mr Tapewolf?
For the record, if there is a typo, I often don't even see it and just read over it, instead seeing the word its suppsoed to be usually. I make so many typos of my own that its become habit.
Not sure if there has been a descision on who plays Dr Ink (yeah, I'm lazy and haven't looked) but I'm in the process of making a few clips for consideration. Likely will sound like crap until I give in and buy a good mic. :mowmeep
Can't wait to hear how this whole thing will turn out. I loved the "Warrior for Hire" program, that was great!
--Neri
At the moment, I believe Tapewolf is using voices by Tezcat for Ink.
I could be wrong, however, and if someone else wants to come forward and can make a better voice, they're all ears. Both of them, no less - Tez has said he'll be happy to be ousted, as he's already covering a number of other voices...
Actually.. TW, you reckon I should do the basement rats? One of, at least? :-)
Quote from: Nerikull on August 29, 2006, 06:42:37 PM
Not sure if there has been a descision on who plays Dr Ink (yeah, I'm lazy and haven't looked) but I'm in the process of making a few clips for consideration. Likely will sound like crap until I give in and buy a good mic. :mowmeep
I'd like to hear them - even if we don't use it (which to be honest is quite likely unless you can beat Tezkat) it should help with future casting. I actually ran a poll in the art forum about who should play the part. It was a heat between Ink himself and Tezkat.. but since Ink hasn't submitted a recording, it fell to him. And I must admit I do now prefer his recordings to mine.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 29, 2006, 06:47:56 PM
Actually.. TW, you reckon I should do the basement rats? One of, at least? :-)
Aaah, the rats, the rats.. I can't for the life of me remember which we have recordings for and which we don't. Not least because they have no names. With Jy's sisters, I encouraged people to record all the parts, so that I could pick and choose.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 29, 2006, 03:08:36 PM
Edit: Hmm. Well, that was easier than I expected. Is that about what you wanted, Mr Tapewolf?
Yes, that's great. Now - is there a way to grab them all off the server, e.g. with wget?
You want the full set of scripts and cast? Or the complete cast listing?
Let me know, and I'll ... uh.. Ok, so it's done already. :-)
edit:
Ah. All updated, now. And the scripts, so future updates are much easier...
I know this radio thing seems hard
We're going to need cameos for Mab's parents, and probably the escaping patrons as well. Perhaps something like "SOUP!!!" "NO!!!! SALAD!"? Any takers?
And I'll have to prod Blade about the Fa'lina recordings and/or do them myself as a stopgap.
I'll see what I can manage. I expect I'll end up taking female parts, as usual... :-)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 03, 2006, 11:53:55 AM
I'll see what I can manage. I expect I'll end up taking female parts, as usual... :-)
If in doubt, do both :twisted
We need to try and write some dialogue for Aary and Fa'lina at some point soon :(
James, is there any chance of more Alexsi recordings at some point? We don't have enough to cover 'Disasters' completely, let alone the SAIA/Life Is Wonderful arc.
**EDIT**
No update tonight, I'm afraid - I've been working hell for leather on a new DMFA song. I'll see what I can do tomorrow..
I dont know if my voice would be good enough cause its loud and deep
*updates the scripts and webpage*
I shoudl listen to some of the pre-recorded stuff and bring that up to date, shouldn't I? :-/
I wonder what char be best suited for a normal deep voice
Quote from: Zedd on September 04, 2006, 12:50:16 PM
I wonder what char be best suited for a normal deep voice
How about the mythos in #530?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 04, 2006, 11:46:58 AM
*updates the scripts and webpage*
I should listen to some of the pre-recorded stuff and bring that up to date, shouldn't I? :-/
That would probably be an idea :)
Quote from: Zedd on September 04, 2006, 12:50:16 PM
I wonder what char be best suited for a normal deep voice
The other suggestion would be the Goon, that Biggs has hanging about, or any of the Security Guards in various places. Well, except for the one played in the Janus Bond arc... :-)
A deep voice? There's a deer that talks to Jyrras at a bar somewhere, I tried doing his voice and I just didn't like how I did it. I can't rememner the comic number for you atm, sorry.
That would be #102. Not on my list of priorities, although it might make a good insert.
I probley can do that Jak
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia4c.wav.mp3
Some of Dan's lines are missing, I did those. I also did Fa'lina. Seraline provided the warp-aci.
I still need to add virtually all the sound effects but I don't have time tonight.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 04, 2006, 01:17:29 PM
That would probably be an idea :)
Granted. :-)
... the corruption is that now, the ball is in your court. :-)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 05, 2006, 06:36:28 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 04, 2006, 01:17:29 PM
That would probably be an idea :)
Granted. :-)
... the corruption is that now, the ball is in your court. :-)
Corruption? Perhaps this will make sense in the morning.
Anyway - does anyone have any comments about last night's recording? How to arrange the Nirfy/Abel bit so it works, perhaps?
/me points Tapewolf at the "Corrupt a Wish" thread in the Arena...
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 03, 2006, 04:25:28 PM
James, is there any chance of more Alexsi recordings at some point? We don't have enough to cover 'Disasters' completely, let alone the SAIA/Life Is Wonderful arc.
It may be a little more difficult with me moved, but I'll see about putting my sis to work the next time I visit.
*hugs James cause he's a nice guy cause he helped me awhile back and Jak and Llearch too cause they are sweet gents*
Right! Who's been out and out lying, baldfaced, about me!
Come on! I'm not leaving until someone owns up!
Quote from: James StarRunner on September 06, 2006, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 03, 2006, 04:25:28 PM
James, is there any chance of more Alexsi recordings at some point? We don't have enough to cover 'Disasters' completely, let alone the SAIA/Life Is Wonderful arc.
It may be a little more difficult with me moved, but I'll see about putting my sis to work the next time I visit.
Okay, we can probably find someone to temp for it until then. Do you think you could record a few Dan voices, though? All the lines for #538 are missing, for example.
I'd also like a different take on #539 and #540.. the 'only one bed in this room' lines. A more accusative tone is what I was hoping for, e.g.:
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/dmfa/onebed.mp3
Also 'you suck' is a bit too forceful - IMHO Dan should be more tired by this point.. it's said that he just settles with that riposte because he's too tired to think of a better one.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 05, 2006, 07:09:32 PM
Anyway - does anyone have any comments about last night's recording? How to arrange the Nirfy/Abel bit so it works, perhaps?
Hmm... maybe Abel could come in just before Nirfy's done with the word 'bishonen' so that he'd have time to react?
(Side note: I love Abel's bed joke giggle. 'Lint!' too. ^^)
Quote from: Hilary on September 06, 2006, 08:43:52 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 05, 2006, 07:09:32 PM
Anyway - does anyone have any comments about last night's recording? How to arrange the Nirfy/Abel bit so it works, perhaps?
Hmm... maybe Abel could come in just before Nirfy's done with the word 'bishonen' so that he'd have time to react?
(Side note: I love Abel's bed joke giggle. 'Lint!' too. ^^)
I'm proud of the 'Lint!' quote, heheh. The giggle there.... just kinda scared me that I could do that >>
Quote from: insanekaosx on September 06, 2006, 10:14:21 PM
I'm proud of the 'Lint!' quote, heheh. The giggle there.... just kinda scared me that I could do that >>
Yes, it was pretty good. It's very hard to laugh convincingly. Even my Yumeii was kind of stilted, and I thought of as many funny things as I could to do it.
Llearch, just been reading your QA notes on Flawed Perception.
> trapped_in_saia2.wav.mp3 : Is line 507.3 by Dan done by the right person?
Yes. Perhaps I've been listening to James too much, but I can tell it's him, even if I didn't know it was.
> saia3_2.wav.mp3 : Missing from 520 to 523
Yes. This might be difficult to add in now, but I'll work something out.
> Nirfy in 526.5 needs recording by someone else
Yes.. we still need to find someone excitable.
> Abel in 526.6 needs recording by the appropriate person
The lines are correct, it's just the anger that we need. Also for 528 and 529, unless mine work as they are. Any chance you could do that, Insane?
> saia4c : There's no rush of flame when Abel sets fire to himself.
I'm still deciding how to engineer that. I don't have any matches, but I suppose I could use a taper on the gas hob. Might need to filter out the sound of the gas itself, though. I also need the washing machine to be idle, which it isn't right now.
I'll probably record the 'vending machine' noises at that point.
Noted, and updated.
Incidentally, I think I'll wait until next saturday to update the scripts (for next week), since we'll be having a "every day this week" week with updates...
... unless I get bored. :-)
This isn't strictly part of the Radio Project, although I may use the music for that part, probably in a more orchestral form. It's from one of my favourite parts of the series, and inspired by Dard's comment on The Nice when we were trying to thrash out whether Dan knew if his mother was a succubus.
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/wddthw_clip.mp3
I can't do it now, and probably not today, but I'll see what I can do, yo :D
I wonder I should be the voice of DP or....That good that works for biggs....Or something..Grrr so hard
Quote from: Zedd on September 09, 2006, 12:31:33 PM
I wonder I should be the voice of DP or....That good that works for biggs....Or something..Grrr so hard
We've already got a complete set of recordings for Pegasus, most of which are committed to tape now. Besides, as they say, the bad guy has to be English :P
Maybe chat with me on yahoo and I can give you my voice
looks like i didn't get to it today, either. Sorry >< I doubt I'll have much time tommorow either >> I hope there isn't alot of school work this week ^^;;
I've just recorded some of the more complex sound effects:
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/dmfa/saia4vm.mp3
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/dmfa/saia4_overreact.mp3
..any good?
Hmm.
sais4vm:
Still funny. :-) More seriously - this is about the paper cup dropping (which you've taken as a plastic bottle dropping, I think) or the squeaky wheels?
saia4_overreact:
Nice whoof.
Just as a variant (the idea being supplying you with a few things to test and see which sounds better) have you tried winding the gas up to max, so there's a roaring as well? Since Abel has flames all over himself at this point...
Doable, or not worth the effort?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 11, 2006, 11:52:03 AM
Still funny. :-) More seriously - this is about the paper cup dropping (which you've taken as a plastic bottle dropping, I think) or the squeaky wheels?
The wheels should be the same as the previous take, although I did do the speedup thing since the first version. The vending machine is what I'm interested in. It's made up of three layers - the refrigeration system which is constantly humming in the background, keying in the selection and the mechanism (microwaving a small glass of water) and finally the can falling into the chute (a tin of tomatoes falling off a shelf inside a closed fridge).
I'd try to record a real one, but I wouldn't be able to use the condenser mic, I'd look like a fool, and I can't remember where there is one offhand - except for Newport station which will be full of ambient sounds. It would also cost me about 50p each take for a bunch of soft drinks which I don't even like.
Quote
Nice whoof.
Just as a variant (the idea being supplying you with a few things to test and see which sounds better) have you tried winding the gas up to max, so there's a roaring as well? Since Abel has flames all over himself at this point...
That might be worthwhile, I'd have to set up the rig again though (that laptop is useful already!)
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 11, 2006, 12:02:08 PM
The wheels should be the same as the previous take, although I did do the speedup thing since the first version. The vending machine is what I'm interested in. It's made up of three layers - the refrigeration system which is constantly humming in the background, keying in the selection and the mechanism (microwaving a small glass of water) and finally the can falling into the chute (a tin of tomatoes falling off a shelf inside a closed fridge).
I'd try to record a real one, but I wouldn't be able to use the condenser mic, I'd look like a fool, and I can't remember where there is one offhand - except for Newport station which will be full of ambient sounds. It would also cost me about 50p each take for a bunch of soft drinks which I don't even like.
Well.. there's one here in the office. And it gets used all day. So.. I could record it being used, if you like?
Only problem is, since this is a geeky office, there's typing and excess background noise, and I'm not sure how much of that my mike would pick up. And there's coinage going in, so...
I can give it a go, though, if you want.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 11, 2006, 12:53:20 PM
Well.. there's one here in the office. And it gets used all day. So.. I could record it being used, if you like?
If you could, that would be appreciated. We don't have one in my office, unfortunately.
I make no guarantees, but if I can find a way to borrow a laptop, I coudl try and record one of the vending machines at school. A bit agter school ends the Cafetaeria is usually empty enough.
Also, I should be able to get lines done alittle more quickly now. I have got myself a nice microphone (Cyber Acoustics Cvl-1064 Desktop Microphone for those mic-savvy folk)
Thanks to Seraline, I've finally been able to complete this short, about a year overdue :P
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/dmfa_482.wav.mp3
..that's not actually Equidna, but he did approve the recording :mowsmile
I have been listening to a number of the clips lately (most notably the full release of 'Daniel Ti'Fiona - Warrior For Hire'), and they're actually pretty good indeed. Although I don't have the ability to help out much at all on this project, I shall still be following its progress :smile
Quote from: TKG on September 16, 2006, 06:59:11 PM
I have been listening to a number of the clips lately (most notably the full release of 'Daniel Ti'Fiona - Warrior For Hire'), and they're actually pretty good indeed.
Thanks.
James, I don't know what you've got on your plate at the moment, but I could do with the following lines for Dan:
* The missing line from 538
* The ending line for WFH, #165 (Slip spent ages doing the Pip voice and I can't use it yet!)
Ultimately we'll need the rest of the SAIA arc as well, but I could do with the above ones as a priority.
Oh yeah, we need the Photophie lines too. I don't know if you know Marin better than me, but I haven't been able to get in touch with her. Yeah, I've got the missing lines for Photophie now. Cool!
Anyway, I'm going to bed.
Okay, here's the first part of the SAIA arc. The next revision will start from 482.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia1_1.wav.mp3
Still to be done:
- Fa'lina voices - a bit wooden in places, and all of them have recording glitches which I can't entirely remove. Also needs the puppet voices.
- Need Alexsi
- Dan says 'cubey' in a few places
- Better 'livejournal' voice? (Yes, Aary's logging on with the password 'merlitz'.)
- Need full score, including radiophonics for the flash-cards (currently in progress.)
- Need more Pip voicing from Slip, new battle sequence and the voices for the next section
Posting these to make sure you have them
http://www.box.net/public/ris0ro7v5q
Was giving the old zip drive to my brother, seems those were on it, just giving the link, like i said, to make sure you have them.
Redid a line... somewhere, havent' uploaded it yet, will soonish, i hope.
*updates the scripts*
I could do one of the rat voices, just point out a page first.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on September 19, 2006, 01:14:15 PM
I could do one of the rat voices, just point out a page first.
I have got quite a good set of voices for 'Rat 3' somewhere and the other male rat (4?) doesn't have many lines. However, it would be useful to have a replacement voice for Seth Gianna. Mar Sera was the previous actor, and I liked what he did, but it was all distorted and he seems to be out of contact.
Seth begins on #328 and appears in 331 and 333. He may also reappear in a later arc, I can't remember now.
http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_328.php
Nope. Seth only appears in Arc 15, and only has something to say in those three strips.
9 lines in total.
Incidentally, we (or, I guess, I) still need to assign names to a) the sisters, and b) the psychiatrist...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 19, 2006, 05:57:07 PM
Nope. Seth only appears in Arc 15, and only has something to say in those three strips.
9 lines in total.
Incidentally, we (or, I guess, I) still need to assign names to a) the sisters, and b) the psychiatrist...
The sisters are a confused mess. I'm not sure I can accurately reconstruct whose voice is whose, but I know Marin did one. The others are more difficult. It says that Hilary did one, but I can't find it and I can only find one recording for Wildwind.
The psychiatrist in 206 and 235 is called Delna. We don't currently have an actress for her. I was going to make an executive decision and say that she was also the unattributed character in #425 as well (see the Being Demonlogy: they might have brought her in as a consultant).
In case anyone's curious, I've just noticed that the SAIA arc as it stands runs for 19 and a half minutes. The Warrior For Hire arc was 22, including credits. Looks like it will have to be done in two parts. Come to that, I'm probably gonna have to buy a fresh master tape to fit it all.
Things could get awkward if the runtime of the second part falls short, but I guess we could always bung the so-called 'wonderful life' story on the end, though. That decision will have to be made when the entire sequence is done, though.
I was going to ask for suggestions on where to start from, but I think I've just found the perfect place :)
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 19, 2006, 06:13:28 PM
The sisters are a confused mess. I'm not sure I can accurately reconstruct whose voice is whose, but I know Marin did one. The others are more difficult. It says that Hilary did one, but I can't find it and I can only find one recording for Wildwind.
The psychiatrist in 206 and 235 is called Delna. We don't currently have an actress for her. I was going to make an executive decision and say that she was also the unattributed character in #425 as well (see the Being Demonlogy: they might have brought her in as a consultant).
Problem is, if she was brought in as a conslutant, she would be listening to that line, not saying it.
As for the sisters - I know at least one is called Ellen, but we had a thread on the last forum about it. I should go have a look and see if I can sort it out...
just popping up to say I'll be rataking my work on Pyro now (me doing so now has nothing to do with his recent character development)
singe I'm lazy to read a 10-page thread I'm curoius where should I go now :P
Quote from: Jack McSlay on September 20, 2006, 02:40:32 PM
just popping up to say I'll be rataking my work on Pyro now (me doing so now has nothing to do with his recent character development)
I'm hoping you meant 're-taking' and not some other word for 'quitting'.. if you've heard
this file (http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/dmfa_482.wav.mp3) you'll note that Pyro's "Dan seems to be more irritable today.." line is a little difficult to hear over the fight. I think that's because it's mostly in the low end - if you can have another go on that one it could be useful for me to experiment with. A more questioning "oh?" would be handy too.
We don't have the lines where he asks Alexsi out either, those are in #556.
After that it's the current arc.
[Holy sh__ - I forgot what I was doing and just ran notepad in Linux. It worked, too..]
Meh. Anyway, I don't have the following Pyroduck strips (mostly earlier arcs):
70, 72-75, 80, 91, 113, 116, 184, 185, 193, 222, 235, 311, 390, 432, 556
"Oh? How desperate?" (483) could do with rerecording as well, if you're up for it.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 16, 2006, 06:26:22 PM
Thanks to Seraline, I've finally been able to complete this short, about a year overdue :P
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/dmfa_482.wav.mp3
Random alert.
When you I heard you say 'slight argument over breakfast,' it reminded me of something, and I spent about ten minutes trying to figure out what. But now I have it: Winnie the Pooh's voice! It's the way you enunciated the 't's, I think.
(Please don't shoot me.) :animesweat
Here's the lost lake section of SAIA pt3. Sadly I am playing Jyrras again - perhaps it will shock Tezkat into providing the missing SAIA clips :twisted
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia3b.wav.mp3
Problems:
* Need Tezkat's version of Jyrras
* I left the reverb switched on when recording the Jy and Merl lines, and didn't monitor with headphones. That will teach me to be lazy.
* No choir at the end - I need to work out how it's going to fit together, score wise, but I'll get there.
* No slapping sound as Jyrras puts the patch on. I forgot that bit during the recording. :rolleyes
Yes, it's a little on the incomplete side, but I do like Seraline's cutting remarks and wanted to share them. :P
The next gap to be filled is the picnic scene. That's tricky because I don't have Aary's lines for that yet. Similarly I need more Fa'lina lines from Blade, but I believe she is on the case for this, barring infection with the bug thing that's got Amber and a couple of other people.
I'll try and do Seth on tuesday.
sry i was gone for so long.
can i be reminded what abel's story pages i need to do for deven?
and also, are their any other rolls needed you think i could fill?
Hmm...I am intruiged...and have gnawing at the back of my mind a slight desire to provide assistance with this.
*prods at the Warrior for Hire download*
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on October 01, 2006, 11:46:04 PM
I'll try and do Seth on tuesday.
Thanks, that would be appreciated.
Quote from: tenlaius on October 02, 2006, 04:47:56 AM
Can I be reminded what Abel's Story pages I need to do for Devin?
Devin debuts in #35 (that's file 35 not episode 35) and carries on from there. The main project at the moment is actually SAIA, although it's always handy to have a library of voices, except when someone voices half the character and then disappears like Khazan did :(
QuoteAnd also, are their any other roles needed you think I could fill?
Not really, I'm afraid - we have male voice actors coming out of our ears. Now, female roles, there's a number of those going..
Quote from: ChaoSynergy on October 02, 2006, 04:44:09 PM
Hmm...I am intrigued...and have gnawing at the back of my mind a slight desire to provide assistance with this.
*prods at the Warrior for Hire download*
Well, as I say, we have no shortage of volunteers for the male roles. No-one has yet recorded any voices for Xander so far, although I think Aridas may have had an eye on that one, I'm not sure. Apart from that, it's mostly spot roles and many of those are female too :(
Now non-copyright sound effects, that would be handy. We really do need a replacement for the awful squeaky wheel in SAIA-4c...
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 02, 2006, 05:08:15 PM
Now non-copyright sound effects, that would be handy. We really do need a replacement for the awful squeaky wheel in SAIA-4c...
I just shot you off an e-mail with a little something I recorded with my quite squeaky office chair. Might suffice, might not.
Yeah, I was thinking about doing the voice for either one of those two, but current conditions forbid it:
1. Jet engines in my PC
2. Having to say things somewhat loud in public (well, now. I moved.) to otherwise to record at a low enough volume to eliminate background noise even with the fans turned down
3. I keep forgetting how to do the voices when I actually try to record. o.o
So, they're up for grabs I guess. Maybe next time a male role comes along I'll have my new PC. Then for sure I'll be recording in better conditions.
TW what do I have to do to join on the Radio Project do I send you my voice throught your email to see am i perfect for any of the cast?
Quote from: ShiningShadow on October 03, 2006, 07:49:25 AM
TW what do I have to do to join on the Radio Project do I send you my voice throught your email to see am i perfect for any of the cast?
More-or-less, yes. Or you can upload it on Rabidshare, files.bz or your own website or something and post a link to it here so other people can comment on it too.
Bear in mind that, as I said, we have more budding voice actors than open roles.
That's cool I will get to work and share my voice talents to everybody.
here you go Seth Tracks... I had some fun with the dialoge of a couple of them(i.e. a small joke at the end of one of the tracks that can be edited out easily.) if you don't like it let me Know.
seth1 (http://media.putfile.com/seth1)
seth2 (http://media.putfile.com/seth2)
seth3 (http://media.putfile.com/seth3)
seth4 (http://media.putfile.com/seth4)
seth5 (http://media.putfile.com/seth5)
seth6 (http://media.putfile.com/seth6)
seth7 (http://media.putfile.com/seth7)
seth8 (http://media.putfile.com/seth8)
Hope you enjoy!
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on October 03, 2006, 01:39:49 PM
here you go Seth Tracks... I had some fun with the dialoge of a couple of them(i.e. a small joke at the end of one of the tracks that can be edited out easily.) if you don't like it let me Know.
Hope you enjoy!
Okay, there are a couple of things that could be improved.
Firstly I'm used to Mar's rendition which is more nasal and ratlike. However, by playing yours about 20% faster, it comes out quite nicely. The problem is that most of the later ones are.. too fast. If you can say #3 more slowly that would be nice - it sounds a little rushed at normal speed - speeded up it's way to fast.
Secondly, Putfile is a total bitch to get the files out of. It's okay for one or two, 8 is pushing things a bit. Mewgal put something like 40 files on it which was a traumatic experience :U
Rapidshare isn't good but at least you don't have to examine the page source code to download the file.
Thirdly, the volume levels are changing a lot. The first couple are okay, after that it starts to go downhill, like you're moving your head around while recording. I print the lines out and hold them in front of me so I can keep my head in more-or-less the same place at all times. Related to this is the 'popping' problem. Try to speak across the mic instead of directly into it.
The one where you're shouting, the first bit is way, way too quiet - it will have to be re-done because it's all buried in the background noise. Probably a better idea to do it as two takes - one for the run-up and another take for the shouting.
Four. Mar was a bit better at expression. You're pretty good, but he added a few nice touches, the slight laugh at the end of "you already know Jyrras I presume".
So, if it's not too much hassle, could you rerecord 3-8 a bit more slowly and with more consistent levels? What you've got is pretty good - if you can sort those out it will be a good replacement for Mar. I'll put up his recording if you want a reference, although I didn't like the way he pronounced Jyrras.
I'll Try do some tomorrow I'm working on an essay for english, studying for a exam in spanish.
Tapewolf: If you add the firefox extension "video downloader" it will happily do the trawling through the source for you.
right click, close the "dont' right client you git" window, then select the "download video" option from the menu that appears. That will generate a new window with a download link in it, click that, and save the resultant file....
Just in passing :-)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 03, 2006, 06:30:04 PM
Tapewolf: If you add the firefox extension "video downloader" it will happily do the trawling through the source for you.
Firefox hates me, though. The first time you download something it takes about 30 seconds, and each time after that takes twice as long as the previous one, so you can quite easily get into 5-minute lockup times. So for most purposes I use Konqueror instead.
Gabriel, your Spanish is arguably more important. Not having Seth isn't really holding anything up, so it can wait. Now Fa'lina and Aary on the other hand..
Really? Mine just skips through...
want me to grab those and rehost them, in that case? :-)
Click here to watch seth3-2 (http://media.putfile.com/seth3-2)
its on putfile...because I need to get my need to feel important.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on October 04, 2006, 02:28:50 PM
Click here to watch seth3-2 (http://media.putfile.com/seth3-2)
its on putfile...because I need to get my need to feel important.
Yes, that's good - sorted out the volume problem and it sounds decent at 20% faster too. A little lacking in treble perhaps, but I should be able to fix that with the filter.
**EDIT**
Insane, do you think you could do some more angry sounds for Abel? I can probably use the 'stutter' set you've provided, but we do need a replacement for #527 where he attacks Ink. Currently we have me going "Rrrrr!". A sort of angry scream would be good, or you can try to do your own "Rrrrr!".
Cheers,
Here's a slightly updated version of the lost-lake SAIA arc, I've been experimenting with scores.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia3b-2.wav.mp3
I still need Pip and Aary's lines before I can sensibly think about doing the picnic scene (495-503).
Incidentally, owing to a billing screw-up with the hosting company - mostly my fault - there may be a loss of service on it-he around the 13th. I believe the issue should have been resolved by now, but we shall see. I'll probably give them a call tomorrow to make sure.
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 04, 2006, 02:32:56 PM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on October 04, 2006, 02:28:50 PM
Click here to watch seth3-2 (http://media.putfile.com/seth3-2)
its on putfile...because I need to get my need to feel important.
Yes, that's good - sorted out the volume problem and it sounds decent at 20% faster too. A little lacking in treble perhaps, but I should be able to fix that with the filter.
**EDIT**
Insane, do you think you could do some more angry sounds for Abel? I can probably use the 'stutter' set you've provided, but we do need a replacement for #527 where he attacks Ink. Currently we have me going "Rrrrr!". A sort of angry scream would be good, or you can try to do your own "Rrrrr!".
Cheers,
Hm, thought I had redone and set it with somethign good, but can't find the somethign good anywhere. OH well, I'll do it again.
Just not righ tnow >> Soon, I promise!
um..... yeah. I should prolly pay more attention to this thread.
Anyways, as I'm sure some of you know, There's a WikiFur page of this project, the majority of which I wrote up while extremely bored, and I have just followed suit with that and added a cast list, because I'm a strange little squirrel like that.
http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/DMFA_Radio_Project
>>
Sweet! I believe this is probably my first mention in wikifur. I edited my name a bit though...
Quote from: Miaka on October 09, 2006, 10:31:29 PM
Anyways, as I'm sure some of you know, There's a WikiFur page of this project, the majority of which I wrote up while extremely bored, and I have just followed suit with that and added a cast list, because I'm a strange little squirrel like that.
http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/DMFA_Radio_Project
Heh, I'd forgotten about that. I'll have to edit the cast list since Aary is now being played by Seraline.
Quote from: James StarRunner on October 10, 2006, 12:31:02 AM
Sweet! I believe this is probably my first mention in wikifur. I edited my name a bit though...
Meh, I've got a whole stub entry.
Oh James, we'll need Alexsi's lines for the SAIA arc before I can get to mixdown. When do you reckon that's going to be doable? Christmas, or earlier?
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 10, 2006, 07:47:41 AM
Oh James, we'll need Alexsi's lines for the SAIA arc before I can get to mixdown. When do you reckon that's going to be doable? Christmas, or earlier?
Well, I definately had no time during the Thanksgiving/birthday weekend to get Tara to do anything. The Christmas break will be alot longer, but I may be able to get more before when I visit another weekend.
Quote from: James StarRunner on October 10, 2006, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 10, 2006, 07:47:41 AM
Oh James, we'll need Alexsi's lines for the SAIA arc before I can get to mixdown. When do you reckon that's going to be doable? Christmas, or earlier?
Well, I definately had no time during the Thanksgiving/birthday weekend to get Tara to do anything. The Christmas break will be alot longer, but I may be able to get more before when I visit another weekend.
I can compile a list of strips if you want. Don't forget we need your voice for #538.
(And I'm gonna have to hunt Tezkat down too)
oh god, my throat is killing me, for a completely un related reason.
seth4-2 (http://media.putfile.com/seth4-2)
seth-5-2 (http://media.putfile.com/seth-5-2)
Otherwise known as: seth 4-2 (http://llearch.net/radio/recordings/seth4-2.wav) and seth 5-2 (http://llearch.net/radio/recordings/seth5-2.wav)
You can thank me later, TW :-)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 10, 2006, 06:42:55 PM
You can thank me later, TW :-)
Indeed, much later. I thank you.
Just a reminder, I still need the following samples for the SAIA arc:
1. Aaryanna (497 - 503)
2. Dan (#538)
3. Fa'lina 536, 541, 542 (Many of the others could be re-done too)
4. Pip (485, 494-497)
5. Jyrras (520-522)
Latest Comic- me+Kaos were talking about voicing it over, and do you want us to do two seperate recordings- one of just Wildy and the other of Just Abel, or do you want us to give it a shot recording both in one go?
Guess what I have now? >:3 Whoo, maybe I can finally do some voice acting!
Quote from: Miaka on October 22, 2006, 07:53:30 AM
Latest Comic- me+Kaos were talking about voicing it over, and do you want us to do two seperate recordings- one of just Wildy and the other of Just Abel, or do you want us to give it a shot recording both in one go?
Together will work as long as you don't overlap. I tend to pan people's voices according to the comic, so in this case Abel will be slightly to the left of the stereo image and Wildy will be panned slightly to the right.
But performing together would probably give it a more lively feel.
And RJ, that's good news. :)
mmkay, once his computer's back up and running, well get that done.
and most of the newer what's needed frm me at least.
or something.
Quote from: RJ on October 22, 2006, 08:01:09 AM
Guess what I have now? >:3 Whoo, maybe I can finally do some voice acting!
Sweet! We'll have pretty much have all the squirrels in this project then! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/Jameswglasses.gif)
Quote from: RJ on October 22, 2006, 08:01:09 AM
Guess what I have now? >:3 Whoo, maybe I can finally do some voice acting!
We do need a voice for Nirfy, even if it's just a standby until she can get at a mic and do her own. Can you do 'excitable female'?
Now I suppose I should finish the music for Falina's explanation, but fighting with the tape synchronizer (and losing) yesterday and the Kula Shaker thin today has left me totally shattered. I'll see if I can cook something up tomorrow evening..
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 22, 2006, 12:46:21 PM
Quote from: RJ on October 22, 2006, 08:01:09 AM
Guess what I have now? >:3 Whoo, maybe I can finally do some voice acting!
We do need a voice for Nirfy, even if it's just a standby until she can get at a mic and do her own. Can you do 'excitable female'?
Hm... suppose I can give it a try. I'll try and download that sound program too. I get a bit of machine noise when I record.
Quote from: RJ on October 22, 2006, 09:27:01 PM
Hm... suppose I can give it a try. I'll try and download that sound program too. I get a bit of machine noise when I record.
I get that too. What I do is turn the recording volume down and speak up. Then when I have to yell I turn the recording volume down real low!
Well, I tried...
Nirfy stand-in - 526 (http://www.furry.org.au/randomjoy/nirfybyrj526.wav)
RJ 'oh my' - 555 (http://www.furry.org.au/randomjoy/ohmybyrj555.wav)
Quote from: RJ on October 22, 2006, 10:13:16 PM
Well, I tried...
Nirfy stand-in - 526 (http://www.furry.org.au/randomjoy/nirfybyrj526.wav)
RJ 'oh my' - 555 (http://www.furry.org.au/randomjoy/ohmybyrj555.wav)
*falls over and dies by the cuteness as my ears bleed with a big puddle*
...
D: Oh great, now even my voice is considered cute...
Yes mommy you got a cute voice :mowdizzy
Quote from: RJ on October 23, 2006, 05:23:56 AM
D: Oh great, now even my voice is considered cute...
RJ is good, although 'mind' comes out a little less clearly than I'd like, more emphasis on the 'D' perhaps?
As for Nirfy.. she needs to be far more hysterical and uncontrollable. It's like Dan is the most beautiful thing she's ever seen and she has to have him at all costs. This seems to be very difficult for people to do..
Haha... okay then... I'll try and do better next time then.
Haha, I completely forgot to tell you, didn't I?
I kinda lost my PC >> And I don't trust this Mac to like my mirophone, etc etc.... I should be getting my PC back tommroow, or soon.
Then I can be lovely and give you all Abel's WONDERFUL lines some more
Including the angry yell. I will get you an angry yell
RJ is perfect. Just needs to work on it, and she's good.
Quote from: insanekaosx on October 23, 2006, 08:50:37 PM
I kinda lost my PC >> And I don't trust this Mac to like my mirophone, etc etc.... I should be getting my PC back tommroow, or soon.
What kind of Mac do you have? Most modern Macs are capable of using mics normally, you just have to select the right input source if it has a built-in mic. Not to mention Audacity is available for Mac OS X.
speakers and microphones aren't exactly things you need to be picky about, in the sense that they all work.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 24, 2006, 03:13:04 PM
speakers and microphones aren't exactly things you need to be picky about, in the sense that they all work.
It's not always that simple. It depends whether it's dynamic or condenser. If it's a condenser mic it will require a 1.5v plug-in power source, or possibly a battery within the body of the mic.
A decent (semi) professional condenser mic will require a 48v phantom power supply, but they generally have a 3-pin XLR connection which is immediately identifiable.
More likely it's either a dynamic or a PiP condenser. But if he just bought a microphone at random on ebay, he could have
anything. The problem happens if you try to use a PiP condenser on a PC that doesn't provide the power source - then it simply won't work.
Speakers are generally less trouble, unless you try to hook a pair of domestic speakers straight up to the soundcard without an amplifier :P
Oh... My... God RJ.
Yes your voice is cute.
I mean.... gyaaaah.
sorry. >>
Definitely an adorable voice, RJ. You'd be talented! ^^
Quote from: Madd the Sane on October 24, 2006, 12:19:47 PM
Quote from: insanekaosx on October 23, 2006, 08:50:37 PM
I kinda lost my PC >> And I don't trust this Mac to like my mirophone, etc etc.... I should be getting my PC back tommroow, or soon.
What kind of Mac do you have? Most modern Macs are capable of using mics normally, you just have to select the right input source if it has a built-in mic. Not to mention Audacity is available for Mac OS X.
Oh, I'm sure it woudl work, i'm just trying to deny the fact that I have to use this Mac for thigns :P
I just want my PC back ;.; *gets it back tommorow*
Ehh.. I just could not get the true radiophonic score to work, so I've done it the quick and easy way. But I don't have time to put it into that segment tonight.
James, did you get anywhere with the missing Dan clip?
It's kinda *thump* hard *thump* right now with *crash* those kids upstairs *waaaah!*... I don't have anything else going on tonight but... *movie blaring* Ahhh! I can get it done as soon as the noise stops! Figures it was quiet just a moment ago though when I first came back.
edit> That not fair! When one noise ends, another starts! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/jamesemotexp3hd5.gif) (Whoa! New emote!)
re-edit> *looks around* All quiet now. Wierd. It came so suddenly. I'll record now while I can.
edit mania> http://www.crystaltopia.com/Sound%20Files/Extras/Dan1.wav
Holy crap! I finished just in time! No sooner did I hit stop than the thumping started again. They're usually not that bad. I wonder if they found the candy for Halloween...
*pats James on the shoulder* You poor man.
So teh computers back, but I have none of the files. Have a friend who has one last idea he wants to try, but I can't do that just yet, I'm hoping for a this weekend finally get everything settled date.
Noooo, James, you weren't supposed to use that emote... it doesn't look right yet... :paranoid
Quote from: Supercheese on October 26, 2006, 12:40:20 AM
Noooo, James, you weren't supposed to use that emote... it doesn't look right yet... :paranoid
I thought that was the one with the hearts... Oh well... those kids are STILL up and that was the most fitting emote at the time...
Well, feel free to edit any of them if you feel the need. I've never been able to make an "XP" emote. It's danged hard - I showed you the only decent one I've ever seen.
Quote from: James StarRunner on October 25, 2006, 10:29:13 PM
It's kinda *thump* hard *thump* right now with *crash* those kids upstairs *waaaah!*... I don't have anything else going on tonight but...
Cool.
As for the noise problems, urgh. You know, most of the vocals for 'A Day At The People Factory' were recorded at my flat in Swindon. The couple upstairs made it difficult to do, always banging and thumping. When they had sex was the worst bit.
Even in this recording there's a lot of background noise and bumping, although this is mitigated somewhat by Abel doing weird things in the background too. Have you considered the bedsheet trick? It might help..
Anyway, I've replaced my lines with yours, and now I've got the end of WFH I can finally, finally assemble the addendum, just five months late >:3
Tomorrow or over the weekend I'll have to add the clocks, record the central heating system coming on for Abel and maybe try a few of the Nirfies.
I don't make a very good Nirfy. :/ I'm best sticking to RJ... or Bridget Jones impersonations.
*updates scripts, in case anyone is watching*
:. Er, made just then, so yeah...
For 555 (http://www.furry.org.au/randomjoy/rjvoice1.wav)
For 595 (http://www.furry.org.au/randomjoy/rjvoice2.wav)
Quote from: RJ on October 27, 2006, 05:15:01 AM
:. Er, made just then, so yeah...
Very nicely done. I think you want to change the second link, though..
Whoops... done.
I don't feel too great today, but I did manage to do this:
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/dmfa_165.wav.mp3
..I've also updated the Warrior-For-Hire recording to include this on the end. That's the only change though, so if it's too big you can just grab the #165 file :P
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 19, 2006, 06:13:28 PM
The sisters are a confused mess. I'm not sure I can accurately reconstruct whose voice is whose, but I know Marin did one. The others are more difficult. It says that Hilary did one, but I can't find it and I can only find one recording for Wildwind.
The psychiatrist in 206 and 235 is called Delna. We don't currently have an actress for her. I was going to make an executive decision and say that she was also the unattributed character in #425 as well (see the Being Demonlogy: they might have brought her in as a consultant).
She does have one more line, but I think it was non-canon. The one about Lorenda having eaten the overly cute mascot character.
I can voice her if you want.
Quote from: Gabi on October 30, 2006, 05:43:19 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 19, 2006, 06:13:28 PM
The psychiatrist in 206 and 235 is called Delna. We don't currently have an actress for her. I was going to make an executive decision and say that she was also the unattributed character in #425 as well (see the Being Demonlogy: they might have brought her in as a consultant).
She does have one more line, but I think it was non-canon. The one about Lorenda having eaten the overly cute mascot character.
I can voice her if you want.
I'm still wondering whether to tack the 424 sequence to the start of the SAIA arc as a kind of flashback to make the story flow better in isolation. Either way, a recording of Delna saying "That's the third case.." would be greatly appreciated.
Quote from: Gabi on October 30, 2006, 05:43:19 AM
She does have one more line, but I think it was non-canon. The one about Lorenda having eaten the overly cute mascot character.
I can voice her if you want.
Uh. That's in strip 188, and was Mab, not Delna...
:3 I couldn't resist trying to do an even more cutesy voice:
http://www.furry.org.au/randomjoy/nutmeg599.wav
Quote from: RJ on October 30, 2006, 06:28:58 AM
:3 I couldn't resist trying to do an even more cutesy voice:
http://www.furry.org.au/randomjoy/nutmeg599.wav
*his glasses crackle and shadder from the cuteness*
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 30, 2006, 06:21:56 AM
Quote from: Gabi on October 30, 2006, 05:43:19 AM
She does have one more line, but I think it was non-canon. The one about Lorenda having eaten the overly cute mascot character.
I can voice her if you want.
Uh. That's in strip 188, and was Mab, not Delna...
No, llearch, that's not the strip I'm talking about. It was a guest strip, I think. And it had a reference to strip 188.
Quote from: Gabi on October 30, 2006, 07:34:23 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 30, 2006, 06:21:56 AM
Uh. That's in strip 188, and was Mab, not Delna...
No, llearch, that's not the strip I'm talking about. It was a guest strip, I think. And it had a reference to strip 188.
Oh. You mean http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_Guest008.php ?
But, since that's a quest strip, it's not part of the scripts, and isn't going in, I would have thought... ?
That's why I said it was non-canon.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 30, 2006, 09:05:39 AM
Oh. You mean http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_Guest008.php ?
But, since that's a quest strip, it's not part of the scripts, and isn't going in, I would have thought... ?
Ooh, Equidna strip! I don't think I've ever seen that one. I'm not sure whether we're going to include it, although of all the guest strips I'd love to include the April Fool's one where Dan goes on a killing spree. That should test James' range as an actor >:3
Here's one of the missing parts of the SAIA arc:
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia_496.wav.mp3
I think Seraline is really good at this. I'm not sure I've got Photophie's lines for this though, I'll have to double-check. And work out who was playing the brown rat. Any comments?
**EDIT**
The volume levels are a bit iffy, but I'll sort that out later.
Hah! Just got a microphone... and nowhere to put my recordings :tired
Any sites where I can post them up?
You know, if needed, I might be able to get my brother to do a few recordings.
Quote from: Komissar Makarov on November 01, 2006, 12:18:14 AM
Any sites where I can post them up?
You can put them on putfile, where tapewolf will hate you for it. Or you could look at box.net or photobucket or something.
Or you could email them to him or me, and either of us can host them for you.
Quote from: Komissar Makarov on November 01, 2006, 12:18:14 AM
Hah! Just got a microphone... and nowhere to put my recordings :tired
Emailing them is fine, as long as they aren't massive (like 20MB or so). Alternatively, I do have an FTP area for people to upload things to so I can grab them. It's nicer if you can put them somewhere public though, since other people will be able to hear and comment on them as well.
Well, I've got them on Putfile (what's so bad about it?), so here you go; some short ones ripe for concrit. They are from Abel's Story, and are my attempts at Devin and Xander*:
Page 33 Panel 2 Devin (http://media.putfile.com/Page-33-Panel-2-Devin)
Page 38 Xander (http://media.putfile.com/Page-38-Xander)
*CONCRIT NEEDED, just so you know :U
Quote from: Komissar Makarov on November 01, 2006, 06:43:13 AM
Well, I've got them on Putfile (what's so bad about it?)
Apart from the fact that it crashes all my web browsers (at work, anyway), you have to download the HTML source code, find the right line and then download
that in order to save the file to disk, which is a prerequisite for actually using it in the project >:3
This is not a big problem when there's only one or two files, but when there's 30 or so it is horrible.
Bugger- so I'll just email them to you or Illearch for hosting, then?
Quote from: Komissar Makarov on November 01, 2006, 07:43:44 AM
Bugger- so I'll just email them to you or Illearch for hosting, then?
Either that or I can download them at home (in about 6 hours)
Quote from: Komissar Makarov on November 01, 2006, 06:43:13 AM
Well, I've got them on Putfile (what's so bad about it?), so here you go; some short ones ripe for concrit. They are from Abel's Story, and are my attempts at Devin and Xander*:
Page 33 Panel 2 Devin (http://media.putfile.com/Page-33-Panel-2-Devin)
Page 38 Xander (http://media.putfile.com/Page-38-Xander)
*CONCRIT NEEDED, just so you know :U
I had to crank up my speakers all the way to hear what you were saying, but otherwise it wasn't too bad. How far away were you from your microphone? Any way you can get closer to it?
Right, finally managed to pull it into some audio editing software. It's quite impressive how good the quality is considering that it's virtually flatlined.
As for the acting, it's pretty decent. Whether it fits the characters I cannot say. I kind of
like the Scottishy accent on Xander. To be honest I'm not convinced on Devin.. he sounds a little bit too psycho. If I remember the strip correctly he should be laughing manically about that point.
Quote from: James StarRunner on November 01, 2006, 01:50:21 PM
Quote from: Komissar Makarov on November 01, 2006, 06:43:13 AM
Well, I've got them on Putfile (what's so bad about it?), so here you go; some short ones ripe for concrit. They are from Abel's Story, and are my attempts at Devin and Xander*:
Page 33 Panel 2 Devin (http://media.putfile.com/Page-33-Panel-2-Devin)
Page 38 Xander (http://media.putfile.com/Page-38-Xander)
*CONCRIT NEEDED, just so you know :U
I had to crank up my speakers all the way to hear what you were saying, but otherwise it wasn't too bad. How far away were you from your microphone? Any way you can get closer to it?
Well, I did have to lower my voice a little at the time (little brother had friends over, and I was embarassing him :rolleyes ). Will try later this weekend, when I'm alone in the house.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 01, 2006, 02:39:46 PM
Right, finally managed to pull it into some audio editing software. It's quite impressive how good the quality is considering that it's virtually flatlined.
As for the acting, it's pretty decent. Whether it fits the characters I cannot say. I kind of
like the Scottishy accent on Xander. To be honest I'm not convinced on Devin.. he sounds a little bit too psycho*. If I remember the strip correctly he should be laughing manically about that point.
* :boggle The scary thing is, that's the way I normally speak.
Anyway, thanks for the info, Tapewolf; I'll have more Xander McDonall recordings up by next week, if you want them.
Bah. I attempted devin, but i had forgotten several things, like the voice i was going to give him. my normal voice is too nerdish for a devin...
Okay, so I think we have actors for Devin and Xander now. That means we'll need Abel too :P
Insane, do you think you could start work on the adult Abel voices?
They start on Abel's Story #27 (referred to as 'page 25' in the archive)
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 09, 2006, 06:09:10 PM
Okay, so I think we have actors for Devin and Xander now. That means we'll need Abel too :P
Insane, do you think you could start work on the adult Abel voices?
They start on Abel's Story #27 (referred to as 'page 25' in the archive)
I guess I can try and work around the whole computer mess up bit for some voices. I'll give it a go either later today or tomorrow
Edit> So far so bad, I can't get the system to read my microphone. working on it.
Quote from: insanekaosx on November 10, 2006, 07:19:55 AM
So far so bad, I can't get the system to read my microphone. working on it.
Which system is it? Mac, Windows or Linux (I think you have all three..) Just checking, are you sure it's not listening on the wrong input or muted?
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 15, 2006, 05:12:10 AM
Quote from: insanekaosx on November 10, 2006, 07:19:55 AM
So far so bad, I can't get the system to read my microphone. working on it.
Which system is it? Mac, Windows or Linux (I think you have all three..) Just checking, are you sure it's not listening on the wrong input or muted?
I've taken a look at inputs and such, and it all seems correct. A third look at inputs is something I'm considering though *I know it isn't muted*
And yeah, this is Ubunutu. I have sworn off Windows, and with my computer online, use the Mac only when nessecary. If I can't get this working by the end of the wekk, I will deem it nessecary to use the Mac's microphone.
I believe it may be a driver issue. Ventrilo wouldn't work right either, but then it also wasn't playing any sound so it may be a different issue altogether.
Quote from: insanekaosx on November 15, 2006, 01:17:54 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 15, 2006, 05:12:10 AM
Quote from: insanekaosx on November 10, 2006, 07:19:55 AM
So far so bad, I can't get the system to read my microphone. working on it.
Which system is it? Mac, Windows or Linux (I think you have all three..) Just checking, are you sure it's not listening on the wrong input or muted?
I've taken a look at inputs and such, and it all seems correct. A third look at inputs is something I'm considering though *I know it isn't muted*
And yeah, this is Ubunutu. I have sworn off Windows, and with my computer online, use the Mac only when nessecary. If I can't get this working by the end of the wekk, I will deem it nessecary to use the Mac's microphone.
What software are you using to get at the volume levels and capture source? On ALSAMIXER and Kmix it looks like this:
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/scraps/volumes.png)
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/scraps/volumes.png
..you select the inputs you want for capture. Stupid thing doesn't seem to save them for later sessions, though.
I don't think the built-in input/volume controls in Audacity
work.
(Thought: we'll probably want to have Insane doing Merbel's inner thoughts and me doing his voices. Hope it doesn't come over as too confusing :P)
If you still get stuck, feel free to bother me at some point. I may be able to offer some suggestions...
I'll try to work in seth tommorow...if i can find time in my busy schedule of nothing that I had palnned...
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on November 15, 2006, 02:18:26 PM
I'll try to work in seth tommorow...if i can find time in my busy schedule of nothing that I had palnned...
That would be much appreciated.
who all do you need recoded form where?
Quote from: e_voyager on November 17, 2006, 02:20:27 AM
who all do you need recoded form where?
I'm not entirely sure what that means I'm afraid, but if the question is "who do you still need voices for," we're mostly sorted for male roles, cameos aside.
What the Hell has happened to Tezkat? Has he disappeared into SL again or something? Would anyone with an SL account mind going and look for him? I need Jyrras for the SAIA arc. If I have to sub for him for this part, I'll need help and guidance on perfecting the accent. I can get the tone about right, it's just the accent and mannerisms.
Todo: check with Blade about Fa'lina
Okay, here's a new version of the 'SAIA picnic' scene. Among lots of little fixes there is now a score at the end of which I am reasonably proud. I've done the rats myself until I can get Marin's Photophie recordings. I can't remember who we cast for the brown rat now.
The Mab samples are a little lo-fi but hopefully that should be fixed soon.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia_496-2.wav.mp3
Well, I don't think its so simple as that. I've messed with the volume settings a bit for the mic, little luck. I'm sure this error message means something.
"There was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio.
Error: Host Error."
Yeah.
Audacity just doesn't like me.
Quote from: insanekaosx on November 20, 2006, 05:07:51 PM
"There was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio."
Usually that means it can't talk to the soundcard. What version are you using, and have you tried adjusting things like the sample rate and so on?
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 20, 2006, 05:42:58 PM
Quote from: insanekaosx on November 20, 2006, 05:07:51 PM
"There was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio."
Usually that means it can't talk to the soundcard. What version are you using, and have you tried adjusting things like the sample rate and so on?
Uhm, perhaps >> ie-no, I haven't messed with sample rates. Perhaps this soundcard error would be the reason music players skip as well >> *ahem*
By version I suppose you mean what is my soundcard. NVidia2 something or other, like essentially the rest of my system >> nForce2 AC97 Audo Controller
Quote from: insanekaosx on November 20, 2006, 09:19:34 PM
By version I suppose you mean what is my soundcard. NVidia2 something or other, like essentially the rest of my system >> nForce2 AC97 Audo Controller
I meant the Audacity version. 1.2 and 1.3 are using different versions of PortAudio, which is the platform-independent device layer. By default 1.3 compiles with PortAudio v19, which defaulted to ALSA and caused me endless trouble until I recompiled it with v18 which uses OSS instead. It should give you the version of PortAudio that it's using on the preferences window where you select the soundcard.
oh, see, that makes more sense >> ><
and I hit enter too soon.
Okay, so Audacity wont' tell me what version it is*not in the program itself,working around that*, and under preferences, where I choose the sound device there are no options and it does't mention PortAudio either.
Edit> Audacity 1.2
Quote from: insanekaosx on November 21, 2006, 05:09:48 PM
Audacity 1.2
Damn. Okay, I'll assume that in 'preferences' it's set to use '/dev/dsp' for the soundcard?
Does that file exist? Do you get some hideous sound if you do
'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp' on the command line? (Press CTRL-C to shut it up...)
bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
>> We've invaded the Radio Project thread. To keep this one on topic might I suggest we take this to PMs or something...
I'd say both of you should do it in the IRC, since I'm actually watching what's going on....
But that's just me...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 22, 2006, 02:41:58 PM
I'd say both of you should do it in the IRC, since I'm actually watching what's going on....
I haven't used IRC for 10 years. I can't say I liked it either. Anyway - it looks like his soundcard can only handle one program at a time, and ESD has grabbed it. Audacity doesn't seem to support ESD. He doesn't have esdctl to shut it down (and although 'kill' is tempting, restarting it would be a pain). I left him instructions to try and apt-get the esound-client package, which may sort that out. I can forward you the PMs if you want a look-see...
Back on topic:James, do you think that you can get Tara to record as much of the current Alexsi arc as possible, when next you're both in the same house, I mean? This arc looks to be real fun, but we'll need her for a lot of Dan's voices.
It figures I'd be way too late. :-)
No, the summary was fine. IRC is simply because I happen to be there, and I like to think we're amusing. Mostly, though... :-)
Edit: *updates scripts* *whistles innocently*
I've been quite busy what with college life and all, and I rarely check this forum anymore. If you need anything from me, bother me via emailing andrew_chung (at) hmc.edu
As an experiment I've strung together all the currently existing test clips of the SAIA arc.
Excluding Fa'Lina's puppet sequence, Pip's conscience and some of Photophie's lines (all of which are currently missing clips from the VAs) but including a short introduction sequence, it's running for just shy of 28 minutes (#481-545), so it's most definitely going to have to be done in two parts.
I'm thinking it might be an idea to break around 21:00, which is Vol #529. Any better suggestions for a dramatic break point?
P.S. If anyone knows how to get hold of Tezkat, please do - otherwise I'm going to have to use my own Jyrras voice.
I agree with your choice of #529. It's a little more dramatic if you break it at #528, but I think it's better to have 529 grouped with 528. It makes more sense to me that way.
I'll have a good deal of time to get Tara to record stuff during the holidays. As for Tez... well, my computer is too injured to even think about reaching him via Second Life. Last time I tried, I think I did permanent damage to my machine.
Quote from: James StarRunner on December 11, 2006, 01:16:16 PM
I'll have a good deal of time to get Tara to record stuff during the holidays.
Great. It would be nice if you can get as much of the current arc as possible (remember, Danielle's
thoughts should be done in Dan's voice, i.e. you - it's what she says out loud that we need Tara for) but I also need her lines for the SAIA arc - #481 in particular.
Oh, yes. *updates scripts* (yesterday, in case anyone was wondering)
I try to update them on a weekly basis, mind. Sundays, usually. But it varies. If anyone has urgent requirements, drop me a line, etc etc.
Hmm... what's Taz's name on SL, I could take a poke on here and there to see if he's on
Quote from: insanekaosx on December 11, 2006, 06:43:12 PM
Hmm... what's Taz's name on SL, I could take a poke on here and there to see if he's on
I've not been on SL, but I'm guessing he's probably 'tezkat'. Assuming he still goes there.
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 12, 2006, 05:31:07 PM
Quote from: insanekaosx on December 11, 2006, 06:43:12 PM
Hmm... what's Taz's name on SL, I could take a poke on here and there to see if he's on
I've not been on SL, but I'm guessing he's probably 'tezkat'. Assuming he still goes there.
Well, I assumed Tezkat, but I don't know enough abotu SL yet to know if I can go based on just first name alone
Uh, ignore this for the moment. :animesweat
Quote from: Hilary on December 14, 2006, 09:47:05 PMUh, ignore this for the moment. :animesweat
Should we watch this space?
Well she said 'for the moment' so I would assume that she'll be editing it to say something useful sometime in the near future. :P
Indeed I did... though now I'll just make it a new post. The links went wierd and I had to upload them again... :animesweat Ta-da.
http://rapidshare.com/files/7542393/Destania701_704.wav.html
I did 'Oh Alexsi, I'm sure the inn is fine' a couple of different ways. I wasn't sure whether she was being dismissive or reassuring.
http://rapidshare.com/files/7542394/Destania712_718.wav.html
*looks awkward* Right as I was about to say '*Ahem,*' the heater cut on, which makes an annoying buzz in the background. I'll do it when it cuts off again... :sweatdrop
Finally got around to checking Hilary's recording. Pretty good overall - better still when slowed down slightly, which helps increase her apparent age. It does seem to be suffering from room echo though. Is there any chance you could try using the "bedsheet trick"?
Just a quick clip to keep things ticking over:
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/dmfa_697.wav.mp3
I don't have Marin's version of Fi yet, so I did it myself. Jack, if you're still up for Pyroduck, some recordings from this arc would be very handy, since I've already got Mab's voice up to #707..
*updates scripts*
Just sayin...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 17, 2006, 01:18:47 PM
*updates scripts* Just sayin...
Keep it up.. it proved a great timesaver on the Merbel recording.
Sorry, I haven't yet had a chance to listen to many of the recordings posted since while I was away (er... how long has it been now?), but I'm sure it's all as good as it always is. As for me... um... well... my net access will be spotty at best over the next month, and I probably won't have access to my mic until the end of January in any event. So... no new recordings from me until then. :mowsad I'll fish through my little archive here to see if I can't find some unposted recordings you can use for the current arc.
Anyway, Merry Christmas and/or Happy Holidays to you all!
:xmastree :mowcookie
EDIT:
Quick update...
I manged to locate some old clips of Jyrras for comics 520 to 522 (http://dmfa.tezkat.com/temp/Tezkat%20-%20Jyrras%20520-522.mp3) in my stash. It's not the greatest recording, and I sorta flubbed a line, but I won't be able to redo it tillI I get home. It's completely unprocessed (no noise removal, compression, EQing, etc.) since I don't have the tools to do that on this box.
Anyways... I have a flight to catch. :mowdizzy See you next year! :kittycool
Quote from: Tezkat on December 25, 2006, 09:01:47 PM
Sorry, I haven't yet had a chance to listen to many of the recordings posted since while I was away (er... how long has it been now?), but I'm sure it's all as good as it always is.
Oh my God.. he's alive! That's probably the one of the best Christmas presents I could hope for.. :P
QuoteAs for me... um... well... my net access will be spotty at best over the next month, and I probably won't have access to my mic until the end of January in any event. So... no new recordings from me until then.
Well, as long as they turn up eventually >:3 In dire emergency I can wing Jyrras, which would probably suffice to space out the recording until I get the final version but the missing Dr. Ink voices would be very, very hard. Marin has fallen to the procrastination bug and I need to bug Blade about Fa'Lina again but I can probably start assembling the SAIA arc.
QuoteI'll fish through my little archive here to see if I can't find some unposted recordings you can use for the current arc.
That's greatly appreciated... thanks. Happy holidays
Man this is so cool I love this radio program
Quote from: Fex on December 27, 2006, 12:42:19 PM
Man this is so cool I love this radio program
Thanks. When I get back home I'll try and start final production of the SAIA arc. Hopefully the missing segments will be roughly as long as my stand-ins otherwise it'll be razorblade time :erk
**EDIT**
..and James, please try to get some of the Alexsi recordings if at all possible :)
I have been listening to the story's and I wonder is it me or do all femal have almost the same voice and sometimes they have a male voice
Quote from: Fex on December 28, 2006, 12:21:29 AM
I have been listening to the story's and I wonder is it me or do all femal have almost the same voice and sometimes they have a male voice
James has a reasonably up-to-date cast list here:
http://www.crystaltopia.com/DMFA%20Stuff.htm
As you can see, voice actresses are somewhat thin on the ground but apart from cases where the gender of the character is unclear or test recordings where we've used a stand-in to get the timings right, we do try to use a distinct voice for each character.
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 28, 2006, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: Fex on December 28, 2006, 12:21:29 AM
I have been listening to the story's and I wonder is it me or do all femal have almost the same voice and sometimes they have a male voice
James has a reasonably up-to-date cast list here:
http://www.crystaltopia.com/DMFA%20Stuff.htm
As you can see, voice actresses are somewhat thin on the ground but apart from cases where the gender of the character is unclear or test recordings where we've used a stand-in to get the timings right, we do try to use a distinct voice for each character.
Heeey...how come I'm not on it? :B
Quote from: Seraline on December 28, 2006, 06:25:02 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 28, 2006, 12:57:57 PM
James has a reasonably up-to-date cast list here:
http://www.crystaltopia.com/DMFA%20Stuff.htm
Heeey...how come I'm not on it? :B
Because it's not
that up-to-date.
Now http://dmfa.it-he.org on the other hand.. didn't have you either. :erk Fixed now..
Memo to self:
(1) Check cast list is accurate on main page
(2) Add casts for missing arcs
(3) Update master copy on home machine when I get home
I don't have the archives with me.. did you ever record Aary's voice for the 'Recipe of Disasters' arc? That one could seriously use a revamp now we've settled on Mab and Aary.
*adds page to the wikuwiki about the radio play*
Aww, where am I on the cast?
Quote from: RJ on December 28, 2006, 11:18:42 PM
Aww, where am I on the cast?
The main page lists the cast for arcs which have a published recording, owing to lack of Dan voices I haven't put together any of yours yet, I'm afraid. When I get home I'll give the cast section a good going-over.
James' page lists the entire cast but is not as up-to-date as I first thought.
(4)Add RJ and any other SAIA cameos/extras
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 28, 2006, 07:04:23 PM
Quote from: Seraline on December 28, 2006, 06:25:02 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 28, 2006, 12:57:57 PM
James has a reasonably up-to-date cast list here:
http://www.crystaltopia.com/DMFA%20Stuff.htm
Heeey...how come I'm not on it? :B
Because it's not that up-to-date.
Now http://dmfa.it-he.org on the other hand.. didn't have you either. :erk Fixed now..
Memo to self:
(1) Check cast list is accurate on main page
(2) Add casts for missing arcs
(3) Update master copy on home machine when I get home
I don't have the archives with me.. did you ever record Aary's voice for the 'Recipe of Disasters' arc? That one could seriously use a revamp now we've settled on Mab and Aary.
Thankies. :3 And no, I don't believe I have...what strips are those again? :B
Quote from: Seraline on December 30, 2006, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf link=topic=465.msg75776#msg75776
I don't have the archives with me.. did you ever record Aary's voice for the 'Recipe of Disasters' arc?
Thankies. :3 And no, I don't believe I have...what strips are those again? :B
Well, the entire thing is quite long, but the existing recording runs from 274-292 inclusive. Aary's part in the arc as a whole starts from 256, and her role in the arc itself ends at 315.
In conclusion: 256-315 would be nice, but we could get away with 274-292 for now. :)
I... so... fail...
I know I must really update the cast list again. School kinda took over and then I went home for the holidays. I also failed to realize that my dad's computer didn't have a microphone, so I was unable to get any new Alexi lines while I've been here. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/Jamescry.gif)
Quote from: James StarRunner on January 03, 2007, 06:16:05 PM
I... so... fail...
I know I must really update the cast list again. School kinda took over and then I went home for the holidays. I also failed to realize that my dad's computer didn't have a microphone, so I was unable to get any new Alexi lines while I've been here. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jaguarstarrunner/emotes/Jamescry.gif)
Oh dear, oh dear. (clean version)
Not only does it mess with the current plotline but it banjaxes the SAIA arc as well since we do not have the "Sorry dear, we're closing" line.
[desperate panic]
Didn't you once mention that you sounded like your sister when the recording is speeded up? Do you think you can do the line for #481 yourself so we can give it a shot, since it's just one line? If not, we'll have to hold SAIA up until we
do get Alexsi's lines and perhaps work instead on the 'Disasters' arc which does IIRC have most of Alexsi's lines recorded.
"I'm sorry, I never knew a wolf could cry" -- Rosaleen
Actually, it's backwards... My sister sounds like me when slowed down. I won't have to wait for another huge holiday, but I was hoping to get a lot done during this one. When I visit next I'll bring my own mic.
Quote from: James StarRunner on January 03, 2007, 07:03:06 PM
Actually, it's backwards... My sister sounds like me when slowed down. I won't have to wait for another huge holiday, but I was hoping to get a lot done during this one. When I visit next I'll bring my own mic.
Okay. Well, would you mind trying the line yourself anyway as a stopgap measure, or is your PC still knackered?
Okay, here's an updated version of the 'Recipe for Disasters' file. It currently runs up to about 293.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/disaster4.wav.mp3
The big improvement here is the new Mab and Aary voices. We are still missing Alexsi's voice for the "Sorry I haven't seen Merlitz" bit and I don't believe I have Wildy's retort to Dan about the DDR match (it's left blank for now).
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 03, 2007, 07:09:57 PM
Quote from: James StarRunner on January 03, 2007, 07:03:06 PM
Actually, it's backwards... My sister sounds like me when slowed down. I won't have to wait for another huge holiday, but I was hoping to get a lot done during this one. When I visit next I'll bring my own mic.
Okay. Well, would you mind trying the line yourself anyway as a stopgap measure, or is your PC still knackered?
Heh... it's in pieces right now. My harddrive finally died. I bought a new one, but I think it's defective. I can exchange it, but I'm going to try it on my room mate's PC before exchanging it. It may be a while yet before I figure out what's wrong. Hopefully I can also recover stuff from my old hard drive. Not sure how long it'll take though...
wait, whats this, time to record? Where'd I put that list of what I have to do.... oh feck it, I'll jsut get onto abels story for ya
Quote from: insanekaosx on January 08, 2007, 07:41:02 PM
wait, whats this, time to record? Where'd I put that list of what I have to do.... oh feck it, I'll jsut get onto abels story for ya
That would be nice. Is the current part of the arc going to be a problem?
One of the other things I'd like is all Abel's thoughts for the 'Merbel' parts (that's 705-708). The earlier 'dragon' sequence would be handy too (680-695).
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 08, 2007, 08:07:18 PM
Quote from: insanekaosx on January 08, 2007, 07:41:02 PM
wait, whats this, time to record? Where'd I put that list of what I have to do.... oh feck it, I'll jsut get onto abels story for ya
That would be nice. Is the current part of the arc going to be a problem?
One of the other things I'd like is all Abel's thoughts for the 'Merbel' parts (that's 705-708). The earlier 'dragon' sequence would be handy too (680-695).
Ah, telling me, thats good too :D
Why would current arc story be a problem? think I can't whimper n command ;D You will be amazed at how pathetic I can be! :P
Edit> Got up to some 57 or something.
Skipped one little comic, 'cause I don't feel quite up to yelling things about sodomy while others are around.
Edit 2> Would help if I put the link, eh :P
http://www.box.net/public/gkrsig9mtg
Well... I'm back home for a bit. My PC needs a bit of surgery, but it shouldn't prevent me from recording unless my preamp fizzles again. :mowdizzy
Anyhow, since I'm a bit out of the loop right now... what arc(s) are we currently working on?
Quote from: Tezkat on January 19, 2007, 03:16:43 AM
Well... I'm back home for a bit. My PC needs a bit of surgery, but it shouldn't prevent me from recording unless my preamp fizzles again. :mowdizzy
Anyhow, since I'm a bit out of the loop right now... what arc(s) are we currently working on?
Cool! Technically, the SAIA arc which I'd like to finish. However until I get the Fa'Lina and Alexsi voices I'm stumped. The Jyrras voices you provided before seem to be okay, but I'll need his voices for the later sections as well (where Abel catches him etc).
I did think you were doing the rat in #502, but it seems we don't have an actor for that one so I may as well keep my take.
While the SAIA arc is on hold, I've been looking at the 'Disasters' arc instead (memo: bug Seraline about the post-fight Aary lines again :P) so the lines from 241-249 would be handy.
I'm at work so I don't have the voice archives with me, but did we ever get the 'kid Jyrras' voices for 349-359? There were a couple, but I don't believe the entire set was done and I think the extant recordings were from the 'burn them!' period >:3
IIRC we were going to speed them up slightly, but I'd have to check Llearch's 'Nice' archive to find out.
**EDIT**
You might want to re-do Edward too. And I'd be curious to know what happened to the preamp. Did the valve go or was it something more serious?
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2007, 04:48:06 AM
Cool! Technically, the SAIA arc which I'd like to finish. However until I get the Fa'Lina and Alexsi voices I'm stumped. The Jyrras voices you provided before seem to be okay, but I'll need his voices for the later sections as well (where Abel catches him etc).
While the SAIA arc is on hold, I've been looking at the 'Disasters' arc instead (memo: bug Seraline about the post-fight Aary lines again :P) so the lines from 241-249 would be handy.
Okay... "Patches" and "SAIA" it is then. I'll stick those in the queue.
Quote
I did think you were doing the rat in #502, but it seems we don't have an actor for that one so I may as well keep my take.
Yeah, I'm the grey rat... who doesn't seem to be getting much in way of new lines beyond the batch I did ages ago. I remember us having an actor for the brown guy once upon a time, though I can't quite remember who it was off hand.
Quote
I'm at work so I don't have the voice archives with me, but did we ever get the 'kid Jyrras' voices for 349-359? There were a couple, but I don't believe the entire set was done and I think the extant recordings were from the 'burn them!' period >:3
IIRC we were going to speed them up slightly, but I'd have to check Llearch's 'Nice' archive to find out.
No... no we didn't. At least, I don't recall posting anything remotely recent that didn't require firey burning. :kittydevious
I've had some time to practice women and kid voices. I still can't do decent prepubescent boy voices the way some female voice actors can, so my current kid Jyrras is more a basement rat style scratchy teenagerized version of Jyrras. It's passable, I guess.
I'll have to see how much usable stuff I can fish out of my archives, but I might have to redo some bits anyway and alter my delivery to accommodate anything more than a few % speed increase. My preferred reading of some of those kid lines is rapid enough that enough that speeding it up further makes him sound like he's on an IV caffeine drip. :mowdizzy I'm already up in the childlike pitch ranges (250 Hz and up), however, so it probably doesn't need much in way of pitch shifting.
Quote
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You might want to re-do Edward too. And I'd be curious to know what happened to the preamp. Did the valve go or was it something more serious?
Hmm... I actually did redo Ed a while back. I was even working on a mix with lots of cool crowd sound effects. Do we have everyone else's lines for that sequence yet?
As for the pre... I think it was just a tube going bad. That's my theory until it dies again, anyway.
Quote from: Tezkat on January 19, 2007, 07:34:52 AM
QuoteIIRC we were going to speed them up slightly, but I'd have to check Llearch's 'Nice' archive to find out.
I've had some time to practice women and kid voices. I still can't do decent prepubescent boy voices the way some female voice actors can, so my current kid Jyrras is more a basement rat style scratchy teenagerized version of Jyrras. It's passable, I guess.
Yeah, if you have a sample of that you can put up, I'd be interested to hear it.
Quote
Hmm... I actually did redo Ed a while back. I was even working on a mix with lots of cool crowd sound effects. Do we have everyone else's lines for that sequence yet?
For the memory itself, not really: we don't have Destania, the baby-dan sounds or the priest. Hilary had a stab at Dee for some of the more recent strips and she'll probably keep the role unless someone comes out of the blue, but I must admit it's not quite what I'd imagined.
I can do baby dan if you like
Quote from: Zedd on January 19, 2007, 02:56:07 PM
I can do baby dan if you like
IIRC you have a rather bass voice, and Tezkat did a pretty good job on his own last time. But you're welcome to have a go.
Not my fault i cursed with fluked DNA
Having clean forgotten about the Tezkat samples provided over Christmas while I was away, I've done a reissue of the relevant clip, removing my awful attempts to do his voice.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia3b3.wav.mp3
**EDIT**
And now I have Aary's lines for the later part of 'Disasters', too late for me to use them though. Hopefully I should be able to put together the second part of that segment tomorrow night..
*whistles innocently, updates scripts*
Like the Jakob-Cross song, this is rather less finished than I'd like, but it will have to do for now...
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/disasters2_1.wav.mp3
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2007, 07:50:08 AM
Quote from: Tezkat on January 19, 2007, 07:34:52 AM
Hmm... I actually did redo Ed a while back. I was even working on a mix with lots of cool crowd sound effects. Do we have everyone else's lines for that sequence yet?
For the memory itself, not really: we don't have Destania, the baby-dan sounds or the priest. Hilary had a stab at Dee for some of the more recent strips and she'll probably keep the role unless someone comes out of the blue, but I must admit it's not quite what I'd imagined.
Um... weren't those all roles that
I was playing? :mowtongue Okay... I've located the Lexsi lines as well as Hilary's Destania (I actually liked my readings better on some of the lines--go figure. :erk). I think we're still missing Dan and Aary in the middle though.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 21, 2007, 01:46:26 PM
Having clean forgotten about the Tezkat samples provided over Christmas while I was away, I've done a reissue of the relevant clip, removing my awful attempts to do his voice.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/saia3b3.wav.mp3
Hmm... one thing that I picked out...
The "Booyah!" is in the wrong place. It's meant to be a capstone for the transformation--sort of a "Hey! Look at my cool new shape!" Unfortunately, it's completely drowned out by the transformation sounds. It belongs at the end, after the sound effects (and there seems to be room for it there, too).
Quote from: Tezkat on February 05, 2007, 05:16:06 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 19, 2007, 07:50:08 AM
We don't have Destania, the baby-dan sounds or the priest.
Um... weren't those all roles that I was playing?
Yes, but they were all from the 'fire' era, and I must admit I was kind of hoping for a female Destania. If you're happy to provide updated versions (that are not baked into a mix), go right ahead.
QuoteI've located the Lexsi lines as well as Hilary's Destania (I actually liked my readings better on some of the lines--go figure. :erk). I think we're still missing Dan and Aary in the middle though.
If you meant the lines in 297, I've got both. In actual fact all of Aary's lines for that segment are still on the FTP site if you want to go grab them. Dan's utterance is at 3:06 in the 'Dan_Disasters' file which should be on Crystaltopia.
QuoteThe "Booyah!" is in the wrong place. It's meant to be a capstone for the transformation--sort of a "Hey! Look at my cool new shape!" Unfortunately, it's completely drowned out by the transformation sounds. It belongs at the end, after the sound effects (and there seems to be room for it there, too).
At last... actual comments on the recordings. It's very difficult to judge these things without feedback. Anyway, the "Booyah!" was clearer in my original recording, but yes, it probably should be at the end rather than at the climax.
I've decided that I must get back into the fray of things, with the beginning of a new semester being the ideal time, before we are loaded with too much homework.
This post henceforth shall be a reference point, so that I may go back at later times and not feel quite so overwhelmed.
Very Well, continue with your Merry-Making.
(And I am so willing to voice anything in the future.)
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 05, 2007, 05:40:56 PM
Yes, but they were all from the 'fire' era, and I must admit I was kind of hoping for a female Destania.
Heh... I'm hardly married to the role. Hilary has a much better female voice than I could ever pull off. :mowtongue It's just a delivery thing. I'm a bit attached to my singsongy reading of the "Mama's little angel" lines, for instance. Hilary's seemed a little flat on that part.
QuoteIf you meant the lines in 297, I've got both. In actual fact all of Aary's lines for that segment are still on the FTP site if you want to go grab them. Dan's utterance is at 3:06 in the 'Dan_Disasters' file which should be on Crystaltopia.
Hmm... I can't seem to locate the password for that. Is there still a web mirror? I couldn't find the file you mentioned on James's page, either... :mowdizzy
Quote from: Tezkat on February 06, 2007, 09:43:30 AM
Hmm... I can't seem to locate the password for that. Is there still a web mirror? I couldn't find the file you mentioned on James's page, either... :mowdizzy
A certain 'cubi clan. I don't have James' recording in a medium that Windows can cope with, so I'll have to sort that one out tonight. And I'm sure we can improve Hilary's rendition. Usually I'd record a specimen myself but with the studio in bits that ain't easy.
Quote from: Sienna Maiu - M T on February 06, 2007, 12:03:47 AM
I've decided that I must get back into the fray of things, with the beginning of a new semester being the ideal time, before we are loaded with too much homework.
(And I am so willing to voice anything in the future.)
Looks like we will be needing a voice for Hennya. And talking of Abel-arc voices, Insane - did you ever get anywhere with the Abel retakes?
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I've added the Dan_disasters.mp3 file to the FTP area as well - let me know when you have it so I can take it away again...
I'd be happy to give it another go... :animesweat
Quote from: Hilary on February 06, 2007, 10:07:33 PM
I'd be happy to give it another go... :animesweat
http://www.crystaltopia.com/Sound%20Files/297_FlashbackwithDanParents.mp3
..basically Tezkat is fond of the singsong voice he used when Dee is crooning to baby Dan. If you can replicate that, it would be great.
Ya know... it occurs to me that I should have asked for the login as well... :animesweat
On a related note, I think we should change the line in Destania's final monologue to read "start over in a new life" (which sounds so much less awkward).
EDIT:
Thanks. Got the stuff off the FTP.
As an aside, Hilary's Destania readings really aren't bad at all... a lot more natural sounding than mine, anyway. After reviewing both of our readings, I think one of the things I liked about the singsong crooning isn't that delivery in an of itself, but rather the way it contrasts with the monologue. In her speech, she's supposed to be a little distant and forlorn--sort of talking to the camera--so in reverting to the warm, mothering voice at the end, we know that she's turned her attention back to the baby (and is explicitly referring to Dan's hands--which is an important plot point).
Who's that Alexi?
It's... OMG! :erk
http://www.crystaltopia.com/Sound%20Files/Extras/alexicompare.wav
So ladies, think you can do better? :P
Quote from: James StarRunner on February 20, 2007, 08:51:07 PM
Who's that Alexi?
It's... OMG! :erk
http://www.crystaltopia.com/Sound%20Files/Extras/alexicompare.wav
So ladies, think you can do better? :P
In other words, we are looking for a replacement for James' sister as Alexsi.
And no, speeding up James' voice didn't work :(
Yes! We really need a girl to do this! Don't make me do my horrendous imitation again (though it really was the best I could do).
Speeding it up and/or pitch shifting just makes me sound like Chip of the Rescue Rangers. I actually have a gig to sound like Chip, but not for DMFA.
Quote from: James StarRunner on February 21, 2007, 12:39:37 PM
Yes! We really need a girl to do this! Don't make me do my horrendous imitation again (though it really was the best I could do).
Speeding it up and/or pitch shifting just makes me sound like Chip of the Rescue Rangers. I actually have a gig to sound like Chip, but not for DMFA.
my. ears. are. bleeding. Somebody please step up so that James does not DO that again.
... is this where I step in? :-/
I don't know. Can you sound like a girl?
Quote from: James StarRunner on February 21, 2007, 01:34:22 PM
I don't know. Can you sound like a girl?
More importantly, can he do your accent? What sort of accent do you have, anyway? Is it a typical W.Canadian accent?
Hmm. What about Mystiq/MadCheshire? IIRC from your DA, she's in your neck of the woods.
Well, let's see how her close her west accent sounds like my mid-west one! I'll try to get a hold of her.
Quote from: James StarRunner on February 21, 2007, 01:34:22 PM
I don't know. Can you sound like a girl?
I keep getting declined usage on my credit card because they say I'm Mrs, not Mr. I'm pretty sure my wife and son disagree, but the preponderance of evidence otherwise is sometimes worrying... :-)
No, I probably can't do the accent. I -could- re-speak every single line there is, but that would generate a whole lot of work for poor TW, so...
Worth a crack, though...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 21, 2007, 01:45:56 PM
Quote from: James StarRunner on February 21, 2007, 01:34:22 PM
I don't know. Can you sound like a girl?
No, I probably can't do the accent. I -could- re-speak every single line there is, but that would generate a whole lot of work for poor TW, so...
Rerecord the lines isn't the problem - that will have to be done anyway. The
big problem is keeping it believable. If Dan comes from Canada and his sister has a thick Liverpool accent it's going to sound pretty silly :P
Now, if I can sort the PC out tonight I'll be well on my way to rebuilding the studio now that there are curtains to keep it from prying eyes. And I should have dialup connectivity, at least in theory.
Insane, did you ever get anywhere with the Abel's Story retakes?
It's not liverpudlian. Heck, it's a vague mix of Aussie, Kiwi, and middle-english. Just about anyone I know gets it wrong, so why should you lot be any different? :-)
I thought I'd recorded some stuff for you before?
Failing that, I'll see if I can organise some recordings of Alexsi's lines for you. Why not....
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 21, 2007, 02:11:31 PM
It's not liverpudlian. Heck, it's a vague mix of Aussie, Kiwi, and middle-english. Just about anyone I know gets it wrong, so why should you lot be any different? :-)
Actually I deliberately tried to choose somewhere I knew you wouldn't sound like, by way of example (I was going to say 'German').
QuoteI thought I'd recorded some stuff for you before?
I don't have my takes vault to hand since I'm at work and Windows can't read EXT3 for my portable drive, so I can't look and see...
QuoteFailing that, I'll see if I can organise some recordings of Alexsi's lines for you. Why not....
Yeah, go right ahead...
I've got an idea too. I'll go ahead and record the Dan[Alexi] lines. That way whoever takes Alexi's part can imitate how I say things.
I was mentioned here! oh my :0
And here's her take on Alexi!
http://www.crystaltopia.com/Sound%20Files/Extras/daniel.mp3
Quote from: James StarRunner on February 22, 2007, 01:42:22 AM
And here's her take on Alexi!
http://www.crystaltopia.com/Sound%20Files/Extras/daniel.mp3
hur hur hur *snort*
Quote from: Mystiqe on February 22, 2007, 01:46:15 AM
Quote from: James StarRunner on February 22, 2007, 01:42:22 AM
And here's her take on Alexi!
http://www.crystaltopia.com/Sound%20Files/Extras/daniel.mp3
hur hur hur *snort*
That's pretty good. A little shrill, but at least as good as James' sister - and playing it back a little slower helps too :P
The bigger problem is the popping on the microphone. You can fix this easily by speaking
across it rather than into it. Other alternatives include making a pop filter from stockings and a wire coathanger, or deliberately going easy on the P's and B's.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2007, 06:32:34 AM
That's pretty good. A little shrill, but at least as good as James' sister - and playing it back a little slower helps too :P
The bigger problem is the popping on the microphone. You can fix this easily by speaking across it rather than into it. Other alternatives include making a pop filter from stockings and a wire coathanger, or deliberately going easy on the P's and B's.
yeah, im trying to work out the speaking bit, but that was just a sample ^^;
I was going to ask "which segment do you suggest for a sample" but... I suspect I've been beaten to the punch :-)
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2007, 06:32:34 AMOther alternatives include making a pop filter from stockings and a wire coathanger, or deliberately going easy on the P's and B's.
Cheap pop filter instructions here (http://web.archive.org/web/20060503143653/http://www.kaiaudio.com/projects/xplosive.html). If you're a guy, just remember to throw the unused portion of the nylons and the packaging out before your parents find them, or else you...heh...
James (and Mystiqe...), is there any chance we can have some recordings for the Danielle arc? That would be Mystiqe doing everything (s)he actually says, and James doing the inner thoughts.
I can do that :bunny
Quote from: James StarRunner on February 20, 2007, 08:51:07 PM
Who's that Alexi?
It's... OMG! :erk
http://www.crystaltopia.com/Sound%20Files/Extras/alexicompare.wav
So ladies, think you can do better? :P
Oh dear... what have I started? :kittydevious
It's a bit on the drag queen falsetto side, but good effort. To get a truly feminine sound, you need to bring your voice down a little and relax more without moving it forward. To hear how that's supposed to sound, check out the "gals" in these clips (http://www.genderlife.com/shop/transsexual_voice_feminization_video/voice_samples/vs_mp3_player.swf)--most of them include samples of their original male voices for comparison.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 21, 2007, 01:37:20 PM
More importantly, can he do your accent? What sort of accent do you have, anyway? Is it a typical W.Canadian accent?
I'd say that James has a fairly flat (Western) Canadian accent. It doesn't have much of the prairie twang you hear in a lot of Albertan voices. Most Canadians and a lot of Americans from the Upper Midwest could pass for family unless their accents have a strong local colour.
Quote from: Mystiqe on February 22, 2007, 01:46:15 AM
Quote from: James StarRunner on February 22, 2007, 01:42:22 AM
And here's her take on Alexi!
http://www.crystaltopia.com/Sound%20Files/Extras/daniel.mp3
hur hur hur *snort*
I like it. :mowcookie It has a lot of the energy and youthful sound that James's sister brought to the role.
One other anti-popping trick that sometimes works well for newbies is holding a finger a few inches in front of your mouth (as if you're tring to shush somebody). It breaks up the puffs of air even better than most nylon pop filters. It also has the added benefit of providing tactile feedback if you're actually learning how to modulate your voice in order to reduce the plosive bursts.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2007, 12:07:24 PM
James (and Mystiqe...), is there any chance we can have some recordings for the Danielle arc? That would be Mystiqe doing everything (s)he actually says, and James doing the inner thoughts.
Hmm... why do we want a real girl voicing Dan for that? He doesn't even have that sort of disguise capability as a Cubi yet. Besides, Biggs failing to see through James's drag queen voice would make the whole scene that much funnier. :mowninja :mowdan
Quote from: Tezkat on February 22, 2007, 03:56:48 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2007, 12:07:24 PM
James (and Mystiqe...), is there any chance we can have some recordings for the Danielle arc? That would be Mystiqe doing everything (s)he actually says, and James doing the inner thoughts.
Hmm... why do we want a real girl voicing Dan for that? He doesn't even have that sort of disguise capability as a Cubi yet. Besides, Biggs failing to see through James's drag queen voice would make the whole scene that much funnier. :mowninja :mowdan
I'm assuming that Abel modified his voice as well. That's how we're handling Abel, anyway - me for the speaking parts and Insane for his thoughts. For the original Dan-in-drag arc, I'm thinking of having James do it as you suggested.
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Oh, Tezkat - you did Pegasus, didn't you? Any chance you could reprise the role? he turns up in 707,708 and 711, although he's presumably going to return in the next month or so when they come back to deal with the 'succubus'.
*coughcough*
I did a sample for Hennya, hmm... yes.
It's horrible and I have a cold, but where should I put it?
(aka-help on hosting?)
email me, I'll host it for you.
Or email TW, or put it on photobucket, or....
Quote from: Sienna Maiu - M T on February 25, 2007, 05:01:13 PM
I did a sample for Hennya, hmm... yes.
It's horrible and I have a cold, but where should I put it?
(aka-help on hosting?)
If photobucket does indeed take audio clips, that would be fine. If you know how to use FTP, I can PM you the login details. Emailing the file to me is a possibility, or there's RapidShare at a pinch.
Okay, I had to go to Confirmation class and Rapidshare was being a jerk, so I didn't get it uploaded until now.
Alright, so this one I did first (http://rapidshare.com/files/18315955/Hennya_recording.wav), then this one (http://rapidshare.com/files/18316235/Best-ish.wav). I really hate the first one for obvious reasons, although I like the emotion which is somewhat conveyed. Then I did a couple more takes of the strip without a copy in front of me, so the plus on the second one is that atleast the words are right.
Now, hurry-up and listen before I wangst-out and try to delete it. (because I can you know, I can.)
Quote from: Sienna Maiu - M T on February 25, 2007, 11:09:28 PM
Now, hurry-up and listen before I wangst-out and try to delete it. (because I can you know, I can.)
Rapidshare is being cranky again. Can someone else grab it?
Sure. Give me a couple hours to get some time free, though.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 26, 2007, 06:54:12 AM
Sure. Give me a couple hours to get some time free, though.
Any joy? It isn't working at home, either. I recommend we never, ever use it again.
Email would probably be a better idea.
Clearly it's a sign.
Because it's so bad.
Try using Cogent.
Sorry, I got distracted by work. :-/
http://llearch.net/radio/recordings/Hennya_recording.wav and http://llearch.net/radio/recordings/Best-ish.wav
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 26, 2007, 05:11:23 PM
Sorry, I got distracted by work. :-/
http://llearch.net/radio/recordings/Hennya_recording.wav and http://llearch.net/radio/recordings/Best-ish.wav
Thanks. I'll check them out now...
**EDIT**
Okay, tech-wise, it has the popping problem. As described above, try to speak across the mic rather than into it. Also the recording is a bit too loud and goes into distortion.
The takes themselves are pretty well-done. In fact, they may actually be too-well done. The first recording in particular does a very good job of sounding extremely concerned about Abel.
However, my impression of Hennya is of someone with a slightly shrill, rather scatterbrained mode of speech, like she's slightly confused by what's happened to Abel, but not very concerned
Are you any good at doing dim-witted? :P
She wasn't that unconcerned back at the garden chat scene. I read her as confused, and trying to make sense of what the hell is being talked about, but utterly confused...
Of course, if you look at the scripts, I also read it as -May- doing all the questions, and Hennya simply stepping in a couple of times. It's not exactly clear who's doing what - and, if you look, May -does- start asking questions without waiting for answers in the previous panel...
Maybe it's just me who sees his mother going off the rails...
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2007, 04:54:57 PM
**EDIT**
Oh, Tezkat - you did Pegasus, didn't you? Any chance you could reprise the role? he turns up in 707,708 and 711, although he's presumably going to return in the next month or so when they come back to deal with the 'succubus'.
Hmm... I might have recorded those in the batch I did before leaving for Christmas type adventures. I'll have to check. (I know I at least did the "hittin' that kitten" line, cuz that's just fun to say. :kittycool) If not, though... you might be waiting a bit unless you're interested in the hoarse silliness I produce under the influence of prescription opiates. Two weeks of constant coughing and other respiratory ailments have been hell on my vocal cords. :kittydepressed
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 26, 2007, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 26, 2007, 05:11:23 PM
Sorry, I got distracted by work. :-/
http://llearch.net/radio/recordings/Hennya_recording.wav and http://llearch.net/radio/recordings/Best-ish.wav
Thanks. I'll check them out now...
**EDIT**
Okay, tech-wise, it has the popping problem. As described above, try to speak across the mic rather than into it. Also the recording is a bit too loud and goes into distortion.
Yeah, most of the recording was clipping. There was some popping too... but it was mostly drowned out by the clipping. I'd advise standing farther back from the mic when you record and maybe turning down the gain (input volume) a little.
I personally read Hennya as nice and bubbly but also a bit spacey and out of touch. Somewhat Valley girl, maybe...
Quote from: Tezkat on February 26, 2007, 06:24:30 PM
Hmm... I might have recorded those in the batch I did before leaving for Christmas type adventures. I'll have to check. (I know I at least did the "hittin' that kitten" line, cuz that's just fun to say. :kittycool) If not, though... you might be waiting a bit unless you're interested in the hoarse silliness I produce under the influence of prescription opiates. Two weeks of constant coughing and other respiratory ailments have been hell on my vocal cords. :kittydepressed
No rush, I've only just got the systems back to the point where I can start working on these again. If you can dig up the Pegasus recordings, I'd like to hear them :)
QuoteI personally read Hennya as nice and bubbly but also a bit spacey and out of touch. Somewhat Valley girl, maybe...
I'd put the emphasis on 'spacey and out of touch', but that might just be me.
She's got the excuse (according to Amber) that she's trying to integrate into Being society without really understanding it properly, but somehow I'm reminded of Luna Lovegood from the Harry Potter series.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 26, 2007, 06:13:24 PMOf course, if you look at the scripts, I also read it as -May- doing all the questions, and Hennya simply stepping in a couple of times. It's not exactly clear who's doing what
I might recommend having Hennya ask a couple of the questions. Having only one voice for those scenes might get a little monotonous, and having two voices would also allow the two characters to talk on top of each other, speeding up the pacing of the scene and adding to the confusion and drama.
I would specifically recommend ``We should message a medical healer,'' which seems to be part of a dialogue, with May responding ``No! We need some law enforcer!'' Also, I would recommend ``Were you mugged?'' because Hennya later seems interested in that line of questioning.
As to the voice, I don't mean to offend, but after I hear ``Oh my'' intoned that way (from the Hennya_recording.wav version), I half expect to hear, ``God, Becky! Look at her butt. It is so big.'' The voice should go up at the end. Also, enunciate. You trip over Soulstealer and a few other words. Slow down, do as many retakes as you need to.
I finally figured out what was going wrong with my tape recorder, so I might give a rendering as to how I'd do it, if Hennya were a man.
I imagined Hennya reading the lines Sienna read... I suppose because they're on her side of the panel. I thought of her as slightly Valley-Girl-ish. Kind of like if Luna Lovegood was born in Los Angeles. Heh. :knifed
You guys are NOT letting anyone else get the spider lines! ALL MINE MINE MINE
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on March 01, 2007, 09:29:33 PM
You guys are NOT letting anyone else get the spider lines! ALL MINE MINE MINE
Yeah, go ahead.
Tezkat, did you manage to dig up the new Pegasus lines?
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/techdifficulties.wav.mp3
(Now we shall see how many people have played System Shock)
Oh noes you've been hacked D:
shodan's better at being a psycho voice >.>
you should really ad a record scratch sound at the end...before people forget what that sounds like.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on March 01, 2007, 09:29:33 PM
You guys are NOT letting anyone else get the spider lines! ALL MINE MINE MINE
hmmm...I don't know, there are a-lot of spiders around
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on March 15, 2007, 11:46:06 PMhmmm...I don't know, there are a-lot of spiders around
That's a good point. Can I claim the histories?
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on March 15, 2007, 09:56:36 PM
shodan's better at being a psycho voice >.>
It wasn't done under ideal conditions... I had to get the old house in order to hand over the keys this morning¹ so I did that one at about midnight.
I should have tried to do the harmonisation thing, though.
Quote from: superluser on March 16, 2007, 12:34:04 AM
That's a good point. Can I claim the histories?
Not quite sure what you're referring to there, but if you have a role in mind, feel free to record a test clip and put a link to it here.
¹As I feared, they were less than impressed with my cleaning skills. I felt rather like a puppy having their nose rubbed in something they'd left
I was thinking maybe Adrias and I could work together on the spiders, both of us would do the same lines and it would give a creepy Simone effect as an example I did myself with myself doing the spiders, but if I did it with somebody else the effect would be more bizarre and creepy.
shall-I-compare (http://media.putfile.com/shall-I-compare)
alas poor... (http://media.putfile.com/alas)
borne me on his back (http://media.putfile.com/borne)
theese lips-68 (http://media.putfile.com/lips-68)
and I don't mean an echo effect either I mean literally two different voices at once.
let me know what you think.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on March 16, 2007, 11:39:28 AM
and I don't mean an echo effect either I mean literally two different voices at once.
let me know what you think.
Memo to self: never visit putfile.com while in Windows
Want help?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 16, 2007, 12:06:30 PM
Want help?
Not yet, I'll get them in Linux when I get home. Thanks for the offer, though.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 16, 2007, 08:38:52 AMIt wasn't done under ideal conditions... I had to get the old house in order to hand over the keys this morning¹ so I did that one at about midnight.
I should have tried to do the harmonisation thing, though.
That was you? (I never remembered hearing that voice in the radio project) Have you ever considered being a continuity announcer?
Quote from: superluser on March 16, 2007, 12:34:04 AMThat's a good point. Can I claim the histories?
Not quite sure what you're referring to there, but if you have a role in mind, feel free to record a test clip and put a link to it here.[/quote]
Well, if the different colors seem to reflect which type of work they tend to recite, then you would expect green to be sonnet, magenta to be tragedy...so there should be one of the colors that is associated with Shakespeare's histories. I'm saying that when that one comes up, I'm calling it.
Well a spider is spider.. they don't usually sound a whole lot different..
Quote from: superluser on March 16, 2007, 05:36:28 PM
That was you? (I never remembered hearing that voice in the radio project) Have you ever considered being a continuity announcer?
If you listen to the very end of the 'Warrior For Hire' recording, you'll hear my previous attempt at continuity. Put me right off it :P
I was aiming for Merlitz, but I'm a little rusty and the EQ wasn't set up right for cat-boy anyway... Merlitz has a higher pitch, so it was closer to my normal speaking voice.
What you heard was taken from about 5 takes where I couldn't hear what it sounded like until after the recording and had great difficulty saying the word 'project' for some reason :rolleyes
One of the issues with the move is that the new room sounds very different, although I believe I now know where to put the mic to minimize room echo.
Quote from: superluser on March 16, 2007, 12:34:04 AMWell, if the different colors seem to reflect which type of work they tend to recite, then you would expect green to be sonnet, magenta to be tragedy...so there should be one of the colors that is associated with Shakespeare's histories. I'm saying that when that one comes up, I'm calling it.
Ah, gotcha.
Gabriel, I like the idea of double-tracking the spiders. Your recordings aren't bad, but I do feel the spiders should have higher-pitched voices. Playing your back 25% fast works quite well, though.
Recipe for disasters, part 3(5?).
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/disasters5.wav.mp3
Once again, Seraline does a splendidly excitable Aaryanna, particularly when Dan's headwings appear.
Been a while (not least because of Morrowind, damn you) but here's the latest:
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/abel71_pre1.wav.mp3
Insane Kaos was incredibly busy so I've had had to do Abel myself for now, but IMHO I've really set the bar for him >:3
Unfortunately Sienna Maiu - our Hennya hopeful - looks like she's offline for Easter so I wasn't able to get her to do the complete set of lines. This means that I'm subbing for her too. I got fed up of that so there's a chunk missing around #75, but anyway, if you ever wanted to hear Abel having a nervous breakdown, now's your chance :P
wow... Jakob does a horrible impression of a girl.
Carful..Walls have ears..wolf kind
"Tapewolf, your walls need their hair trimming from their ears again. And you could probably use a Q-tip on them, too..."
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on April 09, 2007, 09:23:50 PM
wow... Jakob does a horrible impression of a girl.
Why do you think I cut the middle segment out? It was dire.
Seriously, it's nice to see some actual feedback on this thing for a change.
I think you sound like Corneil from Corneil and Bernie, but that may be because you're English... and I still have trouble picking out the difference between an English accent and an Australian one.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 09, 2007, 07:26:05 PM
Been a while (not least because of Morrowind, damn you) but here's the latest:
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/abel71_pre1.wav.mp3
I liked the intro music.
I'm not quite sure what to say about your acting, since it's all placeholder stuff. It was a funny listen, though. :mowhappy
I thought May was well done. She does seem to break character on a few lines, though, making her sound a lot younger (e.g. "Cid, is that you?").
Bleh... I'm waaaaay behind on my own recordings. It seems I haven't been home for more than a few days at a time in the past several months, and even then I'm usually too tired or busy to record. (Well, except for February, but then I was enjoying a lung infection that took two courses of antibiotics to kill.) I did recently pick up a USB mic with which to practice on the road, but the recording quality is down in the
kill it with fire range--the mic sounds cheap, and my laptop's audio is quite noisy. :animesweat I suppose it could serve as placeholder stuff if we're desperate, though...
Quote from: Tezkat on April 10, 2007, 06:15:18 PM
I liked the intro music.
That's the tail end of the piece for when Kria and her mysterious teacher are discussing the attack. Done on the Triton.
QuoteI'm not quite sure what to say about your acting, since it's all placeholder stuff. It was a funny listen, though.
Yeah, well it was fun to go completely mad. The big question is - is that what Insane should be aiming for?
QuoteI thought May was well done. She does seem to break character on a few lines, though, making her sound a lot younger (e.g. "Cid, is that you?").
There were a couple of times when 'Hennya!' came out too mellow, she should have been freaking out more. Also the "did they get cut off?" is kind of feeble, particularly compared to the "Where are your WINGS?" line, which I thought was very well done.
Have you got any unreleased recordings kicking around? I believe you had some from Christmas...
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 10, 2007, 06:27:33 PM
Have you got any unreleased recordings kicking around? I believe you had some from Christmas...
Most of my unposted stuff isn't that useful yet. It largely falls under either condenser mic replacements for
kill it with fire era recordings or experiments with strips in new arcs. I'm not in the habit of recording entire arcs unless I know we'll be working on them soon. I don't have access to my stash right now, but off the top of my head, it includes:
New recordings and mixes of the flashback to Dan's parents. The angry mob at the inn is a massively multitracked monstrosity that I haven't finished yet, but it should sound awesome once I do.
New recordings of the guys in the bar. I also recorded a few variants on the somewhat awkward phrasing of the demon's lines.
New recordings of the human arc. I should probably edit them together for easier insertion into the old mix.
New Pegasus lines. Well... actually... beside his line from Merlitz's Tale, I just recorded the "Hittin' that kitten" bit. He's only got like three other lines in that scene, however, so I'd likely do those as well before posting them.
Several of the strips from Life is Wonderful. (Seriously, that arc has some of the best Jyrras lines in the whole comic.) A lot of them date back to just before we had a confirmed Abel, and they feature me doing Abel's lines as well as Jyrras's. There were quite a few outtakes of me ad libbing funny banter between the two.
A variety of newer Dr. Ink recordings. It's not a complete set. Given the stage the SAIA sequences are at now, they're probably not that helpful except to hear how my Dr. Ink voice has evolved over the years.
Kid Jyrras stuff. Meh... I'm still not happy with it, but I'm unlikely to improve upon it anytime soon.
Bits and pieces of Dr. Jyrras from the Janus Bond arc.
Um... there's probably other random stuff in there, too. I'll admit... I haven't even started working on those other strips you asked about before Christmas. :animesweat
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 26, 2007, 05:49:44 PM
Are you any good at doing dim-witted? :P
Only every single day of my life!!! zomg! D: :marle :explosion
Kay, so just to proove I didn't dead -... I mean die... I'm posting this!
Clearly a few lines went through wrong, not too many though -fortunately, so I'm just going to go through and redo those later. For now though... tell me what you think.
The only problem with this is that since I have a cold, it (being my voice) might be slightly different next time.
And yes, incubus so
do steal heads. It's not faces at all. I mean seriously, that would be gross.
http://rapidshare.com/files/25697432/All_the_lines_.wav
Thanks, I'll check those out tomorrow!
Quote from: Sienna Maiu - M T on April 12, 2007, 08:14:33 PM
Kay, so just to proove I didn't dead -... I mean die... I'm posting this!
Clearly a few lines went through wrong, not too many though -fortunately, so I'm just going to go through and redo those later. For now though... tell me what you think.
The only problem with this is that since I have a cold, it (being my voice) might be slightly different next time.
And yes, incubus so do steal heads. It's not faces at all. I mean seriously, that would be gross.
http://rapidshare.com/files/25697432/All_the_lines_.wav
Overall, the acting was great.
I loved the first half of page 70 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_72.php), but after you flubbed that line, it sounded like you stopped acting for a bit and were just reading off the page.
You were speaking very quickly. For the most part, I think it worked for the character, but you might want to slow down for some of the more serious parts, like when she's examining Abel (page 73 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_75.php)).
It might help to spread out your copy in advance. (A lot of pro VAs like music stands for that purpose.) Or just print it all out on one sheet. Hennya has a lot of dialog in this scene that crosses multiple strips; it sounds a bit unnatural when there's a pause in between while you flip pages (although we can mostly fix that in editing).
The popping was under control this time around, but you unfortunately still have problems with clipping. (Recall that when digital recordings exceed a certain volume level, you lose all the information about those sounds--they can't be recovered.) Please turn down the gain (recording volume) on your mic, and maybe sit a bit farther back from it.
Point the first, I'm using a new mic again as the last one died, I did turn it down, but I can certainly put it down further. As for stepping back... I'm currently using a headset, so nyah~
Point the second... I'm really not sure I had a point the second. Obviously I've gone through the lines before, but this was the first chance I got to record, so I'm going to back through as I said, but over-all I rather liked this *shrug* I'll go back through later to see just exactly what you're talking about, but currently it is 6am (friggin whoa!) so that's for later. I'm off to bed.
*mumbles to self* jeez... how did 6am creep-up on me
Ah... I suspected a headset from all the breath sounds. Still, aside from the clipping, the recording quality on your new mic is pretty good.
Are you using Audacity (http://audacity.sf.net/) (or a similiar program that lets you see the waveforms) to record? Clipping is fairly easy to spot, even without listening to the track.
Here's a portion of your recording being edited in Audacity:
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1117/clippingyr8.png) (http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1117/clippingyr8.png)
As you can see, the waveform for the first line ("You were mugged by Miss Soulstealer?!") touches the upper/lower edges. That's what clipping looks like. If you listen to it, it sounds very distorted. The second half ("You were killed by Miss Soulstealer?") falls well within the boundaries. That's what you're aiming for.
Your voice does get pretty loud when you're doing the really excited lines. Pick one of the lines in which Hennya is really excited to use for a level test, then adjust the volume on your mic so that the resulting waveform has some room at the upper and lower edges. In general, it's better to err on the side of recordings being too soft. We can easily amplify a soft recording (unless there are serious noise issues), but it's hard to restore a recording that got so loud that it clipped.
As usual, Tezkat has hit the nail on the head. I'm going to use these for now but cleaner recordings would be very handy. There was distortion in mine too, but they were only placeholders and I'm not sure I could do that performance again >:3
Here it is again. I'm going to burn the old version with fire because it was crap. This one has Sienna's (overdriven) rendition of Hennya, and a wonderful Gothic version of Abel's Theme.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/abel71.wav.mp3
:P
Please, if I were actually emphatic enough, I might have actually gotten a role in the school musical.
Well alright then, instead of replacing my old dead dollarstore mic, (that's supposed to sit on top of the comp, but isn't mine to sticky things to) I'll ask my father for a headset like the one I borrowed for this thing ^.^ He did offer after all.
I have the volume down to half, I'll try it all again with .3 later if you'ld like. (aka-I'm planning to as soon as Sienna-ly possible)
Quote from: Sienna Maiu - M T on April 15, 2007, 04:37:18 AM
Please, if I were actually emphatic enough, I might have actually gotten a role in the school musical.
Heh. When I said 'overdriven' I was referring to the distortion, not the acting. My brother and I used to do this to get heavy-metal guitar power-chords out of his acoustic guitar >:3
Acting-wise I was impressed with most of it except for the bottom pane of page 72 ("thanks for helping me plan" etc...)
QuoteI have the volume down to half, I'll try it all again with .3 later if you'ld like. (aka-I'm planning to as soon as Sienna-ly possible)
That would be very nice. As Tezkat said, some of it is rather rushed... the bits where she's talking about her degree in particular so you might want to slow down there.
Also as he says, if you record with Audacity or something you can see when it's going into overload.
Yes, I've noticed before, was just never too sure what to do about it.
I did a couple tests with .3 tonight comparitively with the normal volume using a nicely high-pitched peice of music, I don't think I'll need it to be any quieter, so as soon as I can run through my mistakes and set-up my sheets properly, I'll redo this. Plus the new line ^-^
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 15, 2007, 06:13:17 AM
Heh. When I said 'overdriven' I was referring to the distortion, not the acting.
I also considered if you meant that, but someone commented earlier that when I got to the more excited parts it clipped more (I think)
EDIT:
Okay, I lied. I wound-up doing it tonight, I'm not even sure how, but the point is it sucks *dies*
Turns out as I was playing it back I realized this also got recorded at .5. (http://rapidshare.com/files/26258172/Hennya_-lines.wav) Except no new line, haven't printed it off yet. Or... have I? *shrugs*
Quote from: Sienna Maiu - M T on April 16, 2007, 02:04:20 AM
Okay, I lied. I wound-up doing it tonight, I'm not even sure how, but the point is it sucks *dies*
Turns out as I was playing it back I realized this also got recorded at .5. (http://rapidshare.com/files/26258172/Hennya_-lines.wav) Except no new line, haven't printed it off yet. Or... have I? *shrugs*
Thanks. The volume is about right although it still goes into distortion slightly here and there and there's a bit more popping although I was able to remove some of it.
I can't use the "Tasty Ones" line unfortunately because it fades into the sound of the paper rustling.
Overall the acting is more subdued - I definitely preferred the "Ooh! Ooh! Will there be bacon in them???" line from the previous version, so a more energetic performance of that would be very nice - assuming you can both keep it from overloading and get it to sound excitable :P
The "wait a minute" line should be stretched out longer like it was before.
If you have time, yet another recording of the entire set would be nice, that would allow me to pick and choose from different takes which is always handy...
PAPER!?!?!? nooooo!!! *emo*
yeah, the fact I wasn't even planning to do it could have been a factor on the acting... but of course I'll do another one. In fact, I won't stop till it's perfect!!! Or at the very least until you're satisfied and done with it ^-^
Well, that's for later in any case. *prepares a scalpel and other tools for the dissection*
Might I make a couple of suggestions?
the "popping" mentioned is also discussed earlier in the thread, and is, IIRC, caused by speaking into the mike when it's too close, to speaking -across- the mike, rather than -over- it, or something.
I'm sure someone will be able to correct me. And probably point to the post where they corrected me last time, too... However, some digging in the earlier thread might pass some suggestions from, I think, Tezkat or Tapewolf, about how best to minimise distortion and other unwanted artefacts...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 22, 2007, 12:26:08 AMMight I make a couple of suggestions?
You *may*, though it appears that you can only make one.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 22, 2007, 12:26:08 AMthe "popping" mentioned is also discussed earlier in the thread, and is, IIRC, caused by speaking into the mike when it's too close, to speaking -across- the mike, rather than -over- it, or something.
Is there anything wrong with using a pop filter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_filter)? I highly recommend it for women, since they can buy pantyhose without getting weird looks.
Quote from: superluser on April 22, 2007, 01:11:53 AM
Is there anything wrong with using a pop filter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_filter)? I highly recommend it for women, since they can buy pantyhose without getting weird looks.
Heh... nobody batted an eyelash when I bought pantyhose for my first pop filter. I even got them in extra large. :mowtongue
I highly recommend that any amateur VA put together a pop filter for recording. The link on that wiki page shows you how to make a cheap one. You can make an even cheaper one which requires absolutely no craftsmanship skills just by pulling the pantyhose over a wire coat hanger.
Unfortunately, that won't work in Sienna's case because she's using a headset mic. Headsets often have problems with popping--one of the reasons they're not ideal for VO work. You can't move the mic very far away from your mouth--rarely enough to make the side miking or finger techniques useable. The only real recourse to reduce popping on a headset mic involves training yourself not to pop your plosives.
Hold your hand up in front of your mouth and say the word "pore". Notice the puff of air hitting your hand. When that hits the mic, it creates the popping sound in the recording. Now try it again with the word "spore". Can you feel the difference? The former P is an aspirated plosive; the latter is not. Try to say "pore" with the P from "spore". With a bit of practice, you can learn to speak all your Ps without aspiration (or at least limit it to the point that mics no longer pick up the extra air).
Quote from: Tezkat on April 22, 2007, 02:11:43 AMHeh... nobody batted an eyelash when I bought pantyhose for my first pop filter. I even got them in extra large. :mowtongue
Actually, no one batted an eye when I bought mine, either. It was when I threw the excess pantyhose into the garbage can, and forgot to take the garbage out before my parents saw it. (When I used tampons as brushes for an art project, no one batted an eye, either. I keep the half-full box in my apartment just to mess with my folks' heads whenever they come by)
Quote from: Tezkat on April 22, 2007, 02:11:43 AMUnfortunately, that won't work in Sienna's case because she's using a headset mic.
Ah. May I suggest buying a cheap Radio Shack `professional' microphone? I think I have the omnidirectional equivalent of this microphone (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2123173). It's not the Shure 55 Unidyne (http://shure55.net/), but it sounds OK, and it's only $20.
If you're thinking of doing any serious (not necessarily professional, just more than a few lines here and there) voice work, you're going to have to graduate from a headset mic eventually. Might as well get one good enough to get you into amateur projects to hold you off for a few years until you have to buy a Neumann for $800.
Quote from: Tezkat on April 22, 2007, 02:11:43 AMTry to say "pore" with the P from "spore".
Then try to say the `s' from ``spore'' like the `c' from ``Rocinante.''
Quote from: superluser on April 22, 2007, 01:11:53 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 22, 2007, 12:26:08 AMMight I make a couple of suggestions?
You *may*, though it appears that you can only make one.
... what, "try speaking over the mike" and "look earlier in the thread" and "wait for someone to correct me" aren't all valid suggestions?
By my count that's (at least) three. Is there something off in your counting, perhaps? :-]
I listened to some of "Daniel Ti'Fiona, Warrior for Hire," and a few other clips from the site, and honestly, it reminded me of "The Gamers." Everyone sounded a bit...bland...weak acting. No offense intended.
I love both of the new Hennya test dubs! I agree, though, that the first one is probably better, despite clipping and popping problems. DMFA's characters all sound over-the-top when my head-voices read them.(when I read or write things, there's always a voice in my head speaking them to me. I can't read without the voices.)
I would like to say that I would not have made this post if I hadn't had the good to say for the Hennya dubs.
Quote from: superluser on April 22, 2007, 01:11:53 AM
I highly recommend it for women, since they can buy pantyhose without getting weird looks.
ch'man, I don't need to go out and
buy pantyhose *eyeroll* *snicker*
Quote from: superluser on April 22, 2007, 03:09:46 AM
If you're thinking of doing any serious (not necessarily professional, just more than a few lines here and there) voice work, you're going to have to graduate from a headset mic eventually. Might as well get one good enough to get you into amateur projects to hold you off for a few years until you have to buy a Neumann for $800.
Dang, and right after I just told my dad to buy me a headset too...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 22, 2007, 03:27:45 AM
Quote from: superluser on April 22, 2007, 01:11:53 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 22, 2007, 12:26:08 AMMight I make a couple of suggestions?
You *may*, though it appears that you can only make one.
... what, "try speaking over the mike" and "look earlier in the thread" and "wait for someone to correct me" aren't all valid suggestions?
By my count that's (at least) three. Is there something off in your counting, perhaps? :-]
I agree and the very same thoughts came to my mind as well, although I figured the counting error was based on a group-counting method. I however appreciate your numerous (well okay, numbered) input of suggestions.
Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 22, 2007, 06:02:42 PM
I listened to some of "Daniel Ti'Fiona, Warrior for Hire," and a few other clips from the site, and honestly, it reminded me of "The Gamers." Everyone sounded a bit...bland...weak acting. No offense intended.
I love both of the new Hennya test dubs! I agree, though, that the first one is probably better, despite clipping and popping problems. DMFA's characters all sound over-the-top when my head-voices read them.(when I read or write things, there's always a voice in my head speaking them to me. I can't read without the voices.)
I would like to say that I would not have made this post if I hadn't had the good to say for the Hennya dubs.
:D
You just made my day! -err... night, whatever.
but still! *hugs*
I agree though, I also have voices in my head *snicker* each character has their own unique voice.
Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 22, 2007, 06:02:42 PM
I listened to some of "Daniel Ti'Fiona, Warrior for Hire," and a few other clips from the site, and honestly, it reminded me of "The Gamers." Everyone sounded a bit...bland...weak acting. No offense intended.
I do not understand the reference, but yeah, that one could have been better. Most of the material in that was very early. Given the choice I would have rerecorded much of it but I couldn't do an exact match of the DP voice anymore, and various key actors were unavailable at the time. I was also working to a deadline of the project's first anniversary.
Try 'Recipe for disaster part 4' and some of the SAIA recordings (trapped in saia 2). That reminds me, I've got to go and bug Blade about Fa'Lina again. And Marin as well...
Sienna, how close are you to making a third take? Or are you holding until you've got a fix for the popping issue?
The Gamers was a DnD spoof movie made by a group calling themselves "Dead Gentlemen (http://www.deadgentlemen.com/) productions. If you've got any RP experience, it's a riot, but the acting is severely underdone, especially in the first 20 or so minutes.
I'm really looking forward to their second movie in the series, "Dorkness rising." Among other things, the actors seem to have better training("He tripped, and on the way down, he beat himself to death."), the story seems better written, and they got permission from Wizards of the Coast to use official Dungeons and Dragons terminology, so they won't be playing some made-up hack-job of a game, they'll actually be playing Dungeons and Dragons version 3.5, with extra sourcebooks.
Listening to your reccomended samples now.
aaaaaaaaaand done.
While Merlitz never sounded much like Arthur Dent in my mental voices, I have to give mad kudos to whoever's doing his voice. The tonal attitudes match Amber's writing beautifully.
Dan and Abel's exchanges follow a sine wave in quality. Sometimes, they're good, sometimes, they're bad. The overall trend in the "Trapped in SAIA version 2" clip, however, seemed to be that Abel got better as Dan got worse. Also, we've now got the opposite problem from before in that some of the characters are over-acting. I'm not a big fan of method acting, but there's something to be said for putting yourself in the mindset of the characters at a given time.(Don't actually be angry, but remember a time when you felt angry, and try to emulate that.) When I first read the strips, I did not get the general impression of Dan maintaining a teeth-gritting angry tone.
One thing that kinda tends to wierd me out is some of the pronunciations. I usually pronounce "Cubi" as "kyoo-bee," as opposed to Dan's typical "koo-bai" or the other characters' "kyoo-bai." I'm also used to hearing/saying "Wildy" as "Will-dee," instead of "while-dee."
and Jyrras just sounds wierd. Wildy did, too, but her voice kinda grows on you.
I'm still toying with the idea of asking if I can audition for a couple of voices. Largely trying to decide if I've got the time, or if I want to hold onto the ability to run screaming off into the distance in case the forums here just get too wacky for me, and I decide I liked just reading the comics better.
Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 23, 2007, 12:20:51 PM
Listening to your reccomended samples now.
While Merlitz never sounded much like Arthur Dent in my mental voices, I have to give mad kudos to whoever's doing his voice. The tonal attitudes match Amber's writing beautifully.
That would be me.
QuoteDan and Abel's exchanges follow a sine wave in quality. Sometimes, they're good, sometimes, they're bad. The overall trend in the "Trapped in SAIA version 2" clip, however, seemed to be that Abel got better as Dan got worse. Also, we've now got the opposite problem from before in that some of the characters are over-acting. I'm not a big fan of method acting, but there's something to be said for putting yourself in the mindset of the characters at a given time.(Don't actually be angry, but remember a time when you felt angry, and try to emulate that.) When I first read the strips, I did not get the general impression of Dan maintaining a teeth-gritting angry tone.
I think James was actually going through a bad patch when those were recorded.
QuoteOne thing that kinda tends to wierd me out is some of the pronunciations. I usually pronounce "Cubi" as "kyoo-bee," as opposed to Dan's typical "koo-bai" or the other characters' "kyoo-bai." I'm also used to hearing/saying "Wildy" as "Will-dee," instead of "while-dee."
Yeah, it was a problem at first, with different people pronouncing things in different ways, so we standardised. (Not necessarily correctly, in some cases). I'm reasonably confident about 'Kyoo-Bye' since it's a contraction of "incubi". "Warp Aci" is slightly wrong, though. It should be "ah-see"...
Quoteand Jyrras just sounds weird.
That was my initial reaction, I must admit, although it grew on me pretty fast. This doesn't seem to be the case for everyone though, and has been the source of some contention.
QuoteI'm still toying with the idea of asking if I can audition for a couple of voices. Largely trying to decide if I've got the time, or if I want to hold onto the ability to run screaming off into the distance in case the forums here just get too wacky for me, and I decide I liked just reading the comics better.
Heh. We are kind of stuffed with male voice actors and I don't really have the heart to kick someone off unless they've gone for good. I have a feeling we are still kind of stuck for Devin though.
Actually, I've been trying to find a replacement for the Devin I gave you. turns out he wasn't much of a team player despite how eager he was/pretended to be.
Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 23, 2007, 12:20:51 PMI'm also used to hearing/saying "Wildy" as "Will-dee," instead of "while-dee."
I think we were told on the forum at one point that the latter pronunciation is correct.
you know I actually pronounce Cubi Que-bee
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 23, 2007, 02:08:46 PM
Heh. We are kind of stuffed with male voice actors and I don't really have the heart to kick someone off unless they've gone for good. I have a feeling we are still kind of stuck for Devin though.
That makes it easy enough, as I flat-out refuse to use profanity, which would merit a character-breaking re-write of some of Devin's lines. Just as well, I was about to decide I didn't have the time, anyway.
I think I got my pronunciation for Wildy's name from my brother, who introduced me to the comic. What Wildy wants is what Wildy gets, even if it makes me cringe at first(like "keltic" vs. "seltic" did). I've always been a big Wildy fan.
and I think a lot of how I pronounce "Cubi" comes from recently taking some Japanese classes, where the 'I' romanization is pronounced "ee," plus I think the same word is both a gender-neutral singular and a plural, where-as the "aye" sound generally denotes plurality(I do say "suck-you-bye" and "ink-you-bye"). Good to know I was at least pronouncing "Warp-aci" correctly.
If you're still stuck, TW, I'll give Devin a go, if you want.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on April 23, 2007, 05:27:51 PM
you know I actually pronounce Cubi Que-bee
do you also say octo-pee and vy-ree?
no I use Octi-pie, I use Que-bee because I'm half Latino so many vowels to unknown words in my brain translate into Ah, ay, ee, oh, oo, sounds as easily as a, e, i, o, u.
I still think of warp-aci as as warp Ace-see despite Ambers disputed Ay-shee pronunciation, because of Aci's close resemblance to the word Ace.
it's still supposed to be bye, not bee. If you say bee, you're just lying to yourself. i don't see you saying in-que-bee or suck-que-bee (yet) >.>
I suppose it doesn't help me any that in Japanese lore, the nine-tailed fox is called a "Kyubii," pronounced "cue-bee," which is exactly how I pronounce the DMFA race.
Only one person can really decide for sure in this case, and last time I tried to get her attention, I got yelled at.(got my answer, at least.)
That'd be a double I, though >.>
in Japanese, the double i simply means "hold the sound longer." That is, "Kyubi" would be pronounced "keyoobee," and "Kyubii" would be "keyoobeeee." Note the extra Es on the second one. I might be wrong, and the nine-tailed fox is simply "Kyubi," but at this point, I'm too out of practice to really be sure. In any case, the pronunciation difference is akin to the English "to" vs. "too."
You've got to be careful, though, because sometimes, that little extra noise is the difference between a girl and an orangutan.(seriously. And I can't remember which is which just now!)
In fact, I almost screwed up on my forum name, because the kana for "winter weather" and "winter lightning" have one little tick different in the writing. It's two dots, and if you blink, you'll miss it. "Winter Weather" is "Fuyutenki."(Fuyu being winter, Ten being spirit, Ki being sky, you get "spirit of the winter sky," which is how the Japanese say "winter weather.")
Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 23, 2007, 09:54:10 PM
I suppose it doesn't help me any that in Japanese lore, the nine-tailed fox is called a "Kyubii," pronounced "cue-bee," which is exactly how I pronounce the DMFA race.
Dude, I can't believe I've never made that connotation before. Now it's going to haunt me...
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 23, 2007, 04:23:29 AM
Sienna, how close are you to making a third take? Or are you holding until you've got a fix for the popping issue?
I'm working at it, but I'm coming up to mid-terms so I also have that to contend with at the moment.
Quote from: Sienna Maiu - M T on April 23, 2007, 01:50:02 AM
Quote from: superluser on April 22, 2007, 03:09:46 AM
If you're thinking of doing any serious (not necessarily professional, just more than a few lines here and there) voice work, you're going to have to graduate from a headset mic eventually. Might as well get one good enough to get you into amateur projects to hold you off for a few years until you have to buy a Neumann for $800.
Dang, and right after I just told my dad to buy me a headset too...
Logitech's USB mic (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=103,CONTENTID=6776) is currently the most popular entry-level mic among AVAs. It retails for around $30 US. Add in a comfy pair of headphones, and you have all the benefits of a PC headset without the limitations that make them problematic for VO work.
I recently picked one up myself to stick in my laptop bag. Sure, it's no studio condenser, but at least the noise level is quite low. Although it really doesn't do justice to lower, more masculine voices, some of the higher pitched voices come out reasonably well. I can't compare it to the cheap dynamic mic that superluser suggested, but it would probably be more convenient to use.
Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 23, 2007, 12:20:51 PM
I'm not a big fan of method acting, but there's something to be said for putting yourself in the mindset of the characters at a given time.(Don't actually be angry, but remember a time when you felt angry, and try to emulate that.)
Heh... Sir Ian explained that perfectly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKDbu3grA0Q). :mowcookie
Quote
and Jyrras just sounds wierd.
My Jyrras voice is apparently an acquired taste. :mowdizzy Plenty of people (Amber included) can't stand it, though many do warm up to it after listening to longer arcs like Discord. It has actually evolved a bit in response to some of the criticism I've received. I no longer pitch it so high, for instance, and I allow a lot more of my baritone resonance to creep in to make him sound more masculine and less squeaky.
The funny thing about all that controversy is that, of all the voices I do for this project, my Jyrras is probably the closest to how
I hear him in my own mind. Go figure... :animesweat
Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 23, 2007, 09:54:10 PM
Only one person can really decide for sure in this case, and last time I tried to get her attention, I got yelled at.(got my answer, at least.)
Amber has posted her pronunciations for many of the names over the years. They aren't always the same as those used by the original owners (e.g. Jyrras), but we've mostly tried to use her pronunciations when possible. Heck, her explanation for Jyrras's surname continues to mystify me.
Maybe somebody could bug her in person at AC this summer and get official pronunciations straight from the horse's mouth, as it were. :mowmeep
Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 23, 2007, 11:25:38 PM
in Japanese, the double i simply means "hold the sound longer." That is, "Kyubi" would be pronounced "keyoobee," and "Kyubii" would be "keyoobeeee." Note the extra Es on the second one. I might be wrong, and the nine-tailed fox is simply "Kyubi," but at this point, I'm too out of practice to really be sure. In any case, the pronunciation difference is akin to the English "to" vs. "too."
Hmm... English doesn't really have Japanese style long vowels. Are there any English dialects in which "to" and "too" aren't homonyms? 九尾 ("nine tails") à la Naruto would be pronounced
kyuubi with the long vowel on the first syllable.
QuoteYou've got to be careful, though, because sometimes, that little extra noise is the difference between a girl and an orangutan.(seriously. And I can't remember which is which just now!)
That would be
shoujo (少女 = "young female") vs.
shoujou (猩々 = "orangutan"). Another example that's popular in Japanese puns:
byouin (病院 = "hospital") vs.
biyouin (美容院 = "beauty salon").
QuoteIn fact, I almost screwed up on my forum name, because the kana for "winter weather" and "winter lightning" have one little tick different in the writing. It's two dots, and if you blink, you'll miss it. "Winter Weather" is "Fuyutenki."(Fuyu being winter, Ten being spirit, Ki being sky, you get "spirit of the winter sky," which is how the Japanese say "winter weather.")
I've never heard anyone use
fuyutenki in reference to the weather. Maybe
fuyu no tenki (冬の天気)...
By the way you're mixing
on'yomi and
kun'yomi readings of the kanji in that name. That's not necessarily wrong, but it's fairly rare in Japanese compound words. One would be more likely to read 冬電気 ("winter electricity") as
Toudenki than
Fuyudenki. 冬電 ("winter lightning") would just be
Touden (though
Fuyuden wouldn't be all that weird given that 電 on its own doesn't have a native Japanese reading).
Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 23, 2007, 08:31:10 PM
That makes it easy enough, as I flat-out refuse to use profanity, which would merit a character-breaking re-write of some of Devin's lines. Just as well, I was about to decide I didn't have the time, anyway.
Ah well. I haven't decided whether to censor them or not for Abel's Story. James won't swear either, but it's more important to retain the option for Abel's Story because it's a higher rating than PG.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 23, 2007, 08:57:39 PM
If you're still stuck, TW, I'll give Devin a go, if you want.
Yeah, if you could. Try the bit where he's doing the flashback.
Yep, Sir Ian explains exactly what I was taught in my acting classes. We actually went so far as having to make character analyses(which I hate), to help get into the mindset.
Daresay, I still can't properly act a character who's unfamiliar with me. I had to play a ladies' man a year ago, and flirt with one of the actresses, and I couldn't pull it off! I kept coming off either shy or predatory.
The voices themselves are a bit complicated, as in my head, almost every character sounds a lot like I actually do. This includes the female characters. In fact, I caught myself reading a few strips out loud, and noticed I was only reading the womens' lines. Odd.
Admittedly, I didn't do particularly well in Japanese, but I thought my old "Akaikaze" and "Yukikaze" were getting a bit worn, and wanted something new, with a better flow to it. You're right, though, "Fuyunoten/denki" would probably be better... and on'yomi and kun'yomi were two things that always slaughtered me when quiz time came.
Sienna: sorry about that.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 24, 2007, 04:59:28 AM
Ah well. I haven't decided whether to censor them or not for Abel's Story. James won't swear either, but it's more important to retain the option for Abel's Story because it's a higher rating than PG.
I'M NOT ALONE!
Personally, I think that in this particular case, Abel's story would lose some of the emphasis and flow that the characters give it if censorship were applied, though if you decide to take a crack at it, then I'd be willing to give Devin a shot.
I dunno. "Rumor on the street's that I'm a jerk" doesn't have the same ring to it as "Rumor on the street's that I'm an @#$^@#$." I feel that line's very important to defining Devin as a character.
Quote from: Tezkat on April 24, 2007, 03:29:10 AMI recently picked one up myself to stick in my laptop bag. Sure, it's no studio condenser, but at least the noise level is quite low. Although it really doesn't do justice to lower, more masculine voices, some of the higher pitched voices come out reasonably well. I can't compare it to the cheap dynamic mic that superluser suggested, but it would probably be more convenient to use.
I'm not sure how it compares, either. Of course, I don't have a laptop and my desktop sounds like a 747, so I couldn't really evaluate it. I'm sure that if it's reasonably well-made, it's fine, whatever mic it is.
Here's a question: I've been looking for a pair of headphones. Nothing fancy, but I'm concerned that I'll hear them jiggling about on my recording. Amy suggestions for good, quiet headphones?
sennheiser do nice headphones.
I have a set of PXC 250's myself. They aren't very big, but the noise cancelling takes care of a surprising volume of background noise.
Failing that, a large fluffy headset should work, since, once they're in place, they won't move much. Cutting out background noise is a definite plus, since that way you can listen to what's on the track, and not what's in the background of the room at present.
... I'm sure someone else will come up with some other suggestions - I'm at a "bog standard sound card" level, so it's not like I can say much about audiophile choices, much as I'd like to...
I'm using a pair of Fostex T20RP mk2s, but they were on the relatively expensive side and don't have much in the way of bass reproduction (this is annoying as I bought them for mixing). I did have a pair of Sanyo headphones which were about £12, but I knew exactly how things should sound in them. I was gutted when they finally became irreparable.
At work I have a pair of Masterplug DJ headphones. Those have too much bass but they were cheap - I was hoping to mount the Sanyo transducers in them before I found they were moulded into the chassis. I'd still like to repair them someday if I can find a donor model on ebay...
Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 24, 2007, 05:00:47 AM
I'M NOT ALONE!
Personally, I think that in this particular case, Abel's story would lose some of the emphasis and flow that the characters give it if censorship were applied, though if you decide to take a crack at it, then I'd be willing to give Devin a shot.
I dunno. "Rumor on the street's that I'm a jerk" doesn't have the same ring to it as "Rumor on the street's that I'm an @#$^@#$." I feel that line's very important to defining Devin as a character.
Oh, you're definitely not alone. A few of our actors won't even say "Oh my God!"
Given the number of AVAs who won't swear into a mic, it's become important for producers to indicate during auditions whether a role will require swearing or other adult content. Finding out that your actors won't read the lines
after they've been cast is no fun for anyone.
Mind you... if we do decide to censor profanity for Abel's story (as in bleep it out, not rewrite it), what you actually record would be unimportant so long as the bits before and after the bleep sound like you were swearing. :animesweat
Quote from: superluser on April 24, 2007, 10:13:37 AM
Here's a question: I've been looking for a pair of headphones. Nothing fancy, but I'm concerned that I'll hear them jiggling about on my recording. Amy suggestions for good, quiet headphones?
I use Sony V6's for monitoring when I record. They have a nice, relatively neutral sound production that doesn't overemphasize the bass. Second, they have the words "Studio Monitor" inscribed in large, friendly letters across the top. :3 Finally, out of the dozens of cans I tried on back when I bought them, they were the most comfortable. That was very important to me, since a lot of closed-back models squish my ears or press my glasses against my head (which can give me a headache after a while). They're very quiet, and the coiled, telephone style cord is easily tucked out of the way.
If you buy a good pair of cans, they'll last a long time (and the parts that don't are easily replaced). It could be worth your while to head down to a local audio shop where you can try out several models and pick a pair that's right for you.
Quote from: Tezkat on April 24, 2007, 06:54:54 PMI use Sony V6's for monitoring when I record. [...] They're very quiet, and the coiled, telephone style cord is easily tucked out of the way.
I just did a small test with my headphones, and to my surprise, they didn't make a sound when I had them on, even with an omnidirectional mic. There's a small bit of noise in it, but I think that's from the tape deck, which was right next to the mic. I think I'll still need a new set, since I can hardly hear anything in them.
If you've ever wanted to know what I sound like, don't listen to this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/27788933/tooloud.wav (Here's why (http://rapidshare.com/files/27789460/captaintrips.wav.mp3).)
I've got to find a better method of doing this, because my current computer doesn't seem to want to let me record in stereo. It also has some horrible crosstalk problem where I can hear the scroll wheel through the speakers whenever I use it in resource-hungry apps. (I'm looking into a single board computer--no crosstalk or moving parts!)
Quote from: Tezkat on April 24, 2007, 03:29:10 AMHeh... Sir Ian explained that perfectly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKDbu3grA0Q). :mowcookie
Along the lines of Sir Ian's method of acting, I've always been more of a fan of the German expressionist form of filmmaking, where what is most important is getting the message across to your audience. Nobody ever talks or acts like people do in films. It's all dramatic conceit anyways, so accept it and use the idiom to your best effect.
Quote from: superluser on April 25, 2007, 01:23:26 AM
I just did a small test with my headphones, and to my surprise, they didn't make a sound when I had them on, even with an omnidirectional mic. There's a small bit of noise in it, but I think that's from the tape deck, which was right next to the mic. I think I'll still need a new set, since I can hardly hear anything in them.
There was some machine noise. I guess that's to be expected with an omnidirectional mic, but at least it was regular; I was able to remove most of it in Audition, and the remaining noise wouldn't be audible over background music. Aside from that, the recording quality was pretty good. You'd probably need a more expensive mic to pick up noise from the cans, clothes, etc. :3
Quote
If you've ever wanted to know what I sound like, don't listen to this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/27788933/tooloud.wav (Here's why (http://rapidshare.com/files/27789460/captaintrips.wav.mp3).)
The volume level was fine. Go by the waveform, not the perceived loudness. So long as your voice isn't clipping or drowned out by noise, we can work with it.
Quote
I've got to find a better method of doing this, because my current computer doesn't seem to want to let me record in stereo.
That's fine. We don't particularly want you to record in stereo, either. (And you can't create a proper stereo recording with only one mic anyway--a single mic is a mono input.) Ideally, recordings for voiceover should be as dry as possible and free from any information about the recording environment. We'll position the audio during mixing (by fiddling with channel levels and reverb).
Quote from: Tezkat on April 25, 2007, 03:41:25 AMThe volume level was fine. Go by the waveform, not the perceived loudness. So long as your voice isn't clipping or drowned out by noise, we can work with it.
I was talking about the sound of the headphones jiggling about. As I was recording the line, I tried to have them make as much sound as I could. And it sounded like they were making loud, clacking noises. That's the loudness that I was referring to.
They make plenty of noise when they're not on my head:
http://rapidshare.com/files/27860121/noisyheadphones.wav.mp3
and the noise that I was hearing in the too loud sample sounded similar, so I figured it was showing up on the recording, as well.
Quote from: Tezkat on April 25, 2007, 03:41:25 AMQuoteI've got to find a better method of doing this, because my current computer doesn't seem to want to let me record in stereo.
That's fine. We don't particularly want you to record in stereo, either. (And you can't create a proper stereo recording with only one mic anyway--a single mic is a mono input.)
True. I like to record in stereo, since my input is mono, but the tape is stereo, and knowing what data are on which track may help with things like noise reduction when I go to mix the channels.
Anyways, I'm less concerned with the fact that I can't record in stereo than I am by the fact that it turns out like this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/27860329/headphones2.wav
I'm getting kind of curious about this tape deck you refer to. What are you using?
Quote from: superluser on April 25, 2007, 10:43:55 AM
Anyways, I'm less concerned with the fact that I can't record in stereo than I am by the fact that it turns out like this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/27860329/headphones2.wav
Now as for that, that's awesome. What did you
do to it? I've never been able to do that on demand. Is that just Audacity going on a bender of some kind?
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 25, 2007, 04:17:28 PMI'm getting kind of curious about this tape deck you refer to. What are you using?
Optimus SCT-86. I see there's one on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Optimus-SCT-86-Stereo-Cassette-Tape-Deck-Compact-NR_W0QQitemZ150116196695QQcategoryZ4784QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWINQ3aPOST0Q3aRECOQ3aBIDQQcmdZViewItem). That's probably the best reference I can find. It has settings for normal, CrO2, and metal, and a Dolby switch, which is pretty much all I wanted in a deck for recording.
Also, I found some awesome headphones. Have you heard about the Grado Labs SR60? They're outstanding. And, at $70, out of my price range right now.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 25, 2007, 04:17:28 PMhttp://rapidshare.com/files/27860329/headphones2.wav
Now as for that, that's awesome. What did you
do to it? I've never been able to do that on demand. Is that just Audacity going on a bender of some kind?[/quote]
rec -c 2 -f s -r 44100 -s w headphones2.wav
(that's the SoX frontend.)
Audacity does something different, too.
http://rapidshare.com/files/27922268/headphones3.wav
(From about 5.3 to the end, I added the noise that I get when the tape deck is off)
Quote from: superluser on April 25, 2007, 05:17:39 PM
rec -c 2 -f s -r 44100 -s w headphones2.wav
(that's the SoX frontend.)
Audacity does something different, too.
Are you using ALSA or OSS? If you're using ALSA with the OSS compatability layer, have you tried using a native ALSA application like arecord?
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 26, 2007, 07:18:04 AMAre you using ALSA or OSS? If you're using ALSA with the OSS compatability layer, have you tried using a native ALSA application like arecord?
arecord -c 2 -f S16_LE -r 44100 headphones4.wav (http://rapidshare.com/files/28031376/headphones4.wav) (I'm not sure why you would want this one--since it's just a copy of captaintrips.wav in stereo--but I thought I'd upload it anyway)
It works! Why would OSS compatibility do that?
Quote from: superluser on April 26, 2007, 10:07:04 AM
It works! Why would OSS compatibility do that?
You'd have to ask the ALSA people that, I think.
A thought occurs.
Should Aniz turn out to be someone other than Cid, I think I could do justice to the character. I think I'm just about over this blasted cold, so I'd like to audition for the non-Cid lines if that is indeed where the story goes.
Quote from: superluser on May 02, 2007, 09:02:23 PM
A thought occurs.
Should Aniz turn out to be someone other than Cid, I think I could do justice to the character. I think I'm just about over this blasted cold, so I'd like to audition for the non-Cid lines if that is indeed where the story goes.
Give it a shot! :mowcookie
Come to think of it... even if he
does turn out to be the Cid we knew and loved, a different voice could help listeners distinguish between the "Cid" persona and the "Aniz" one.
Quote from: Tezkat on May 02, 2007, 09:29:57 PMCome to think of it... even if he does turn out to be the Cid we knew and loved, a different voice could help listeners distinguish between the "Cid" persona and the "Aniz" one.
Perhaps. If it turns out to be a Jekyll and Hyde thing. I don't think I could get the emotions right, otherwise.
Quote from: Tezkat on May 02, 2007, 09:29:57 PM
Come to think of it... even if he does turn out to be the Cid we knew and loved, a different voice could help listeners distinguish between the "Cid" persona and the "Aniz" one.
Yeah, I'd go with that. See if it works
Quote from: superluser on May 02, 2007, 09:17:29 PM
Also, I think that Albanion could work with a whimsical Irish accent. Does he have a voice, yet?
I get the impression Amber will be kind of not happy if I actively discuss the radio project in that thread, so I'm going to reply to the relevant stuff here. And to be honest, I'd agree in some respects - swapping notes and techniques, yes - recruiting voice talent maybe (although she seems to disagree) - but subverting the thread into a discussion of this project when it has a perfectly good thread of its own is not what I want to do.
To answer your question, no - Albanion does not have a voice, and I must admit I do like the idea of an Irish horse if Rabid is happy to provide the voicing. I dunno if he's reading this thread or not, so I'll drop him a PM I think...
As for Pip, it really
isn't a matter of cute. "Ki" is easy enough to do, but so far only Slip has demonstrated the vocal range to do a convincing fight sequence. If anyone else can do that kind of growling, I would really appreciate some samples...
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 03, 2007, 05:18:52 AM
I get the impression Amber will be kind of not happy if I actively discuss the radio project in that thread, so I'm going to reply to the relevant stuff here. And to be honest, I'd agree in some respects - swapping notes and techniques, yes - recruiting voice talent maybe (although she seems to disagree) - but subverting the thread into a discussion of this project when it has a perfectly good thread of its own is not what I want to do.
Wait, was that originally posted in another thread? 'Cause I look up, and I see "The DMFA Radio Project" as the thread title. Seems perfectly fine with me...
though it is not wise to upset the Amber. Not wise, indeed.
Quote from: Fuyudenki on May 03, 2007, 11:39:22 AM
Wait, was that originally posted in another thread? 'Cause I look up, and I see "The DMFA Radio Project" as the thread title. Seems perfectly fine with me...
I might have mangled the backlink, but Superluser's question was posted in Goatmon's thread.
Well, I just had a shot at Devin's lines from entrance to the classic "sodomise" gag. Let me know what you think...I had the window open so there's a bit of fuzz that I would be able to work out, but of course, you'll be in the needing of hearing my actual voice before anything else. If it's not suited to Devin, maybe you guys can suggest who it could work for?
Also, Soundclick. Click "Hi-fi" to stream it and on Mp3 to download.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=556327 (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=556327)
oh, that was good. That was very very good. Be glad I didn't audition for Devin's part, this guy's got it in the bag.
You made me do "stupid grin". Thank goodness nobody was about. Cheers, man!
since i'm too lazy to click and not enough to judge, and since tape would know a bit better... Then... How much better is this guy than my guy, Tape?
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on May 03, 2007, 12:54:49 PM
since i'm too lazy to click and not enough to judge, and since tape would know a bit better... Then... How much better is this guy than my guy, Tape?
Not having heard your guy, I can't say, but speaking as a mere observer, Fox here NAILED the personality and tonal effects of Devin's voice. I used to hear Devin much like a throaty, slightly deeper Abel, but now he'll always be Irish to me.
See, now I'm picturing Devin playing a bodhrán and singing rebel songs in a smokey pub somewhere in Kildare :D
.... sounds reasonable to me. Which pub, since it's always nice to know where friends are going to be? :-]
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on May 03, 2007, 12:54:49 PM
since i'm too lazy to click and not enough to judge, and since tape would know a bit better... Then... How much better is this guy than my guy, Tape?
Rabid has certainly put more life into it, IMHO. I must admit, I like it a lot. The sound quality itself leaves something to be desired, though. Unfortunately that also goes for 'Hotel Motel' at least - I haven't yet checked the other recordings.
There are two main problems: background noise and room echo. The background noise (birds aside) is the PC. I might be able to remove some of it with noise reduction algorithms, but it's generally best if it isn't there in the first place.
If possible get some kind of extension cable and record in a different room to the PC.
For the room echo, there is a trick where you use bedsheets or something similar to minimize it. Some people build up a tent, but if you don't mind looking foolish you can also just stand in one (this is what the "this is crazy" line on the Merlitz outtakes is referring to). This may also help reduce the PC noise if you can't use a different room.
Now I wonder how it would sound if we go with Oleg's Scottish Xander...?
And we'll need someone for Albanion...
You need someone to do the voice of... say... the demon master or Aniz? I've been told I could probably do the job. Please, just direct me where I need go. I have a good enough recording program and mic, I should think.
Quote from: Stygian on May 03, 2007, 03:28:56 PM
You need someone to do the voice of... say... the demon master or Aniz? I've been told I could probably do the job. Please, just direct me where I need go. I have a good enough recording program and mic, I should think.
I think Superluser was going to do Aniz, but we do still need Kria's instructor, so if you want to do a test voicing, upload it here. If you don't have your own webspace there's always Rapidshare or that box.net thingy. Or if you need it I can PM you the details for the FTP site (when I get back - gotta try to overthrow the government. Back soon).
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 03, 2007, 03:17:11 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on May 03, 2007, 12:54:49 PM
since i'm too lazy to click and not enough to judge, and since tape would know a bit better... Then... How much better is this guy than my guy, Tape?
Rabid has certainly put more life into it, IMHO. I must admit, I like it a lot. The sound quality itself leaves something to be desired, though. Unfortunately that also goes for 'Hotel Motel' at least - I haven't yet checked the other recordings.
There are two main problems: background noise and room echo. The background noise (birds aside) is the PC. I might be able to remove some of it with noise reduction algorithms, but it's generally best if it isn't there in the first place.
If possible get some kind of extension cable and record in a different room to the PC.
For the room echo, there is a trick where you use bedsheets or something similar to minimize it. Some people build up a tent, but if you don't mind looking foolish you can also just stand in one (this is what the "this is crazy" line on the Merlitz outtakes is referring to). This may also help reduce the PC noise if you can't use a different room.
Now I wonder how it would sound if we go with Oleg's Scottish Xander...?
And we'll need someone for Albanion...
Oh, don't listen to the rest, they're little musical whimsies. Glad you enjoyed the reading, at least - sound quality is something I can work on more with a redraft of it. I mean, that recording was literally to get my voice out there, I'd be more careful henceforth (I'm now pondering making one of those classic kiddie-tents where you sit in the middle of your bed and drape the duvet over you. Good times)
In terms of sound quality, I'm more than happy to work on that to get it up to the desired level. Devin might be a relatively small part, but he's got a lovely loose-limbed sort of sneeriness. A bit of a lad, our Devin.
Well my Logitech USB headset seems to be pretty immune to background noise, echoing, popping... I'm still trying to figure out a way to get rid of the hissing "S," and apparently, I have a lot of airflow when I talk, so it hisses something nasty.
I'll go ahead and do a demo read of Albanion's line later tonight. Gives me a chance to throw in "I, along with my broken lungs and a dictionary, would like to discuss with you the meaning of the word 'help'" for Abel, but my version wouldn't sound anything like the current and possible future Abel you've got, so that's more for my own amusement than aything else.
Heh, I'd kill for Abel's role, but that's one I just couldn't swing. He's too sophisticated. I haven't listened to many of the soundclips on the site, but I've always imagined Abel clipping his vowels and adding plosives to labial fricitives.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 03, 2007, 03:58:43 PM
Heh, I'd kill for Abel's role, but that's one I just couldn't swing. He's too sophisticated. I haven't listened to many of the soundclips on the site, but I've always imagined Abel clipping his vowels and adding plosives to labial fricitives.
OK Plosive, I found, but Labial Fricitive isn't in Wikipedia. Elaborate, please?(there are plenty of valid reasons for this request, I think.)
Think of an extended "f" sound. That's pushing the air between your lips to create enough air friction to make a distinctive sound. Any sound like that is a labial fricative (in this case, a bi-labial fricitive, you can also have labio-dental fricatives for an "f" depending on how you say it)
Upper-class British twit is, more or less, the sort of voice I think our rabid fox has in mind.
Possibly the sort of voice Hugh Laurie has in Blackadder The Third, as George, Prince of Wales, Prince Regent.
... Am I right?
Naw, they tend to soften their vowels and round them, rather than clipping them.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 03, 2007, 12:10:55 PMhttp://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=556327 (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=556327)
Soundclick doesn't like me. Is there any way to download it without registering?
just play the low-quality version. They only want you to register for the MP3 or high-quality versions.
Quote from: superluser on May 03, 2007, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 03, 2007, 12:10:55 PMhttp://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=556327 (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=556327)
Soundclick doesn't like me. Is there any way to download it without registering?
Yeah, click "Lo-fi" beside a song to listen if you're not registered. I'll find somewhere better to upload.
On that page, there's a few other spoken word pieces. "The Child Was Much Happier", "We remember your childhood well" and "Lifestyling" come to mind. Try to avoid the rest, they're shocking, mostly drunken recordings.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 03, 2007, 06:19:30 PMYeah, click "Lo-fi" beside a song to listen if you're not registered. I'll find somewhere better to upload.
Yeah, it gives me some Flash thingy. I'm Flash-deficient.
PM me an email address, I can send it that way.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 03, 2007, 07:28:45 PM
PM me an email address, I can send it that way.
Er?
(http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/Themes/DMFA/images/email_sm.gif)
I see you use --name of ISP--, by the way.
Mirrored for the SoundClick impaired. (http://dmfa.tezkat.com/temp/rabid_fox%20-%20Devin%20Lines%20(7BA22DD6).mp3) :mowcookie
I like this audition. Devin's personality was dead on.
As for the recording quality... The noise was pretty regular, but there was unfortunately a fair bit of it. Audacity left a lot of unpleasant artifacts when I tried to remove it. Audition's DNR is much gentler--I'll give that a shot when I have access to my home PC next week. In the meantime, you can experiment with the suggestions regarding blankets or moving your mic.
I'm a fan of building a little pillow fort around your mic. A number of pro VAs/journalists/etc. use a similar setup when on the road (albeit usually made from proper board and acoustic foam--but pillows work almost as well).
Forgot to mention--I like rabid_fox's Devin. It doesn't fit my impression of him, though. Maybe a little slower on the fast parts?
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 03, 2007, 03:36:04 PMI think Superluser was going to do Aniz
I'm trying. I'm not sure it will work. As I've said before, I don't think I can get the emotions right if it's not a Jekyll and Hyde complex.
Here's how I saw the character for strip 84:
http://rapidshare.com/files/29378204/aniztake1-2.wav.mp3
And here's 84-85, as it looks like it's turning out (BEWARE, THE WHOO IS VERY LOUD):
http://rapidshare.com/files/29378256/aniztake3.wav.mp3
(/BEWARE, THE WHOO IS VERY LOUD)
I think there are clipping issues on the latter, and I still have the remnants of this cold, so I'd rather rerecord before anything gets used, but it should show where I think the character is going, as far as the character is making any sense to me. (oh, and I didn't even try to match it to Cid's voice)
Also, I fear my `studio' sounds like the one in which Capriccio La Pucelle De New Orleans (http://www.amazon.com/1712-Overture-Other-Musical-Assaults/dp/B000003CVW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-5861677-3254556) was recorded, but it never shows up on tape.
that first one sounds a lot like Atrus, from Myst. I don't think Aniz is a very Atrus person. More Achenar or Saavedro(Myst 3), I would think.
The second reading does sound more like I imagine him... if he's just come home from some wierd Demon coffee house where they inject pure coffee directly into your arteries, and he had more than "a few drinks." I like the personality, but even at my worst, I'm not that hyperactive.
I'm going to go record the promised auditions, now...
[edit]upon attempt, my Albanion sucks! As stands, I can't make my voice sound good for his lines. Never-mind.[/edit]
I think you could carry off Aniz, but you should comprimse between the two. You've got the voice for it, definitely. Aniz has to sound amused in a petty sort of way though, not hyper. I mean, were it me, I'd be reading it like:
http://rapidshare.com/files/29464149/anizz.wav.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/29464149/anizz.wav.html)
Now, to play with the mic and rerecord Devin's lines with less fuzz.
now I've got this mental image of Shrek pulling an eyepatch off his eye, saying "Look on the bright side, May..." I think you make a better Devin.
Hah. All Aniz needs now is a faithful animal sidekick with a voice filtered through several sivs to make it as annoyingly unfunny as possible.
I'l stick to Devin. I want to get the recording up to scratch, so I'm going to try a few things after I recover from Friday afternoon's dose of feral children.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 04, 2007, 12:13:38 PMI think you could carry off Aniz, but you should comprimse between the two. You've got the voice for it, definitely. Aniz has to sound amused in a petty sort of way though, not hyper.
The first voice is Aniz as a Jekyll and Hyde complex, where Aniz still has a bit of self-doubt, Aniz knows what he's done and he's none too happy about doing it. He's been trapped inside Cid and he hates May, but has been forced to deal with her. Now, he is able to give vent to all of his frustrations. That's the only way that I see Aniz making sense as a character. I didn't know how to do the dialogue from 85 that way, though. I may have since figured it out.
But that doesn't seem to be the way the character is going. In take 3, I'm doing it as Aniz being completely impulsive and not giving a whit about anything other than where his next fix is coming from. I didn't notice it until I heard rabid_fox's version, but in my version, I don't think Aniz is even talking to anyone--just sort of talking to hear himself talk--which fits the character that we've seen in 84 and 85. He seems to be completely hyper in 85--everything he says seems to be completely unplanned and uncoordinated.
I see no way to integrate the two.
I think Aniz reminds me of Burgess Meredith in that Twilight Zone episode where he plays the Linotype editor who turns out to be Old Nick.
Howdy people. Just thought I'd put up some dialog I recorded the other day, that some of you might have missed (Since I didn't put it in the radio thread, originally.)
I plan to do some more later, I'm thinking about doing some of Devin's dialog, though I'm not able to read it all. Anyone able to post Devin's last thoughts before he died? I'm reading the page and I can't make it all out. Thanks in advance. ^^
Anyway, here's my attempt at Abel's Monologue about Cindy after getting a letter about her funeral.
1st Page:http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_31.php
Audio: http://media.putfile.com/Abel-Goodbye-Cindy
Mirror: http://public.box.net/supergumdrops27145
Quote from: Goatmon on May 05, 2007, 04:37:06 AM
I plan to do some more later, I'm thinking about doing some of Devin's dialog, though I'm not able to read it all. Anyone able to post Devin's last thoughts before he died? I'm reading the page and I can't make it all out. Thanks in advance. ^^
Erm. You -did- look at the scripts page, linked off the Radio Play homepage?
http://llearch.net/radio/ if you're feeling lazy.
Look at it? I didn't even know it existed. :P
But thanks for the link. ^^
Quote from: Goatmon on May 05, 2007, 09:50:52 PM
Look at it? I didn't even know it existed. :P
:tmyk *grin*
Quote from: Goatmon on May 05, 2007, 09:50:52 PM
But thanks for the link. ^^
No problem. :-]
Gash. My plans for glorious re-recording were completely humped on account of me flying to Ireland and completely forgetting to pack my microphone.
BTW, Rabid, I loved your rendition of Devin. Just thought I'd share that. ^_^
Ah, cheers man! I'm really going to push to get a sound-quality-improved version up by tomorrow evening...though if I don't, I'm going to go down to the music department in the school and ask them for a microphone that I can take home and call a friend for a night. They got NICE stuff down there.
I might actually take a shot at that Abel thing you recorded. Except aiming a bit more for the Leonard Cohen than the Chris Calbin (think of that as a serious compliment, I love Calbin's readings).
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 06, 2007, 09:08:24 PMI might actually take a shot at that Abel thing you recorded. Except aiming a bit more for the Leonard Cohen than the Chris Calbin (think of that as a serious compliment, I love Calbin's readings).
Leonard Cohen writes great stuff, but I'm imagining Abel doing the monologue to the tune of ``Bird on the Wire.''
I think I may have to record a rendition of that.
Like a birrrrrd/on a wirrrre
I used tooooo/have a sitterrrr
Actually, After hearing your versoin of Devin, I find it hard to be content with my own accent for the part. I'm probably going to end up adding a scottish accent to it, even though I don't personally know anyone who has it, so I'm terribly confident I could do it and sound genuine. But, I'll see how it turns out. ^^
Quote from: Goatmon on May 07, 2007, 05:57:50 AM
Actually, After hearing your versoin of Devin, I find it hard to be content with my own accent for the part. I'm probably going to end up adding a scottish accent to it, even though I don't personally know anyone who has it, so I'm terribly confident I could do it and sound genuine. But, I'll see how it turns out. ^^
Remember that whatever accent we have for Devin, his mother should ideally have the same accent. Does anyone know of someone who'd fit the bill for Devin's mother if we go with Rabid's version?
You know, my sister is a big DMFA fan and a wonderful public speaker. I could ask her about that. I'm sure she'd be up for it.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 07, 2007, 07:24:04 AM
You know, my sister is a big DMFA fan and a wonderful public speaker. I could ask her about that. I'm sure she'd be up for it.
Do you think you could? That would be fantastic.
Ayuh. I'll give her a ring tonight. That said too, though. There's a chance that the mother having a different accent to Devin would really hammer home that he spent the formative years of his life without her, in the care of the aunt and uncle. So even if the sister doesn't fancy it, there's a very nice alterantive to the representations.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 07, 2007, 08:02:17 AM
There's a chance that the mother having a different accent to Devin would really hammer home that he spent the formative years of his life without her, in the care of the aunt and uncle.
I'm not convinced. I've often been marked as having a London accent, even though I moved away from there when I was about 1.5. My brother was born in Swindon when I was 2 and he took the local accent - I didn't leave Swindon until about 5 years ago and I never really picked up the accent.
That said, my step-brother moved from Dursley to Kansas. It's quite fascinating to hear him gradually segue between Gloucestershire and American accents.
So I guess it might work, and if she can't, I guess we won't have much choice. But see what you can do anyway...
My logic is that she'll jump at the chance. I can see what you mean, mind you, for sure. It'd be fantastic to have accent-matchup between the parents and children, since it's the parents you're most likely to pick your accent up from. Here's hoping, cause I know she'll be bloody good at it if she takes it. Especially the angry bits.
Here's a quick rendition of Aniz I did, with him totally round the twist. It seems the reason for the crystalline distortion sounds in my Abel stand-in were because the new soundcard can only record at 48khz.
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/aniz_jm.wav.mp3
Heh, a little too "Campy Monty Python" but I do like the rather bored British accent when it's not too giggly. That could be the voice of Aniz there with a little alteration to the serious side. Not much, though, there are some lines that you absolutely nail down with a six inch tent peg. It's definitely more Aniz than what I was imagining, so that's a top job.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 07, 2007, 10:14:23 AM
Heh, a little too "Campy Monty Python" but I do like the rather bored British accent when it's not too giggly. That could be the voice of Aniz there with a little alteration to the serious side. Not much, though, there are some lines that you absolutely nail down with a six inch tent peg. It's definitely more Aniz than what I was imagining, so that's a top job.
The most difficult part of that was trying to prevent him turning into Merlitz, which does happen at around 0:38. It goes into distortion here and there as well, but it was just a test. The voice was originally based on my Dr. Ink voice (not Tezkat's version which we're using) but more excitable.
If I can stop myself playing Morrowind until 2am again I'll try to assemble some dialogue between Abel, Devin and Oleg's version of Xander.
I'm actually holding off on re-recording until I get into school and ask to borrow a proper microphone off the music department now. I've got a feeling that my £4.99 microphone from Tescos ain't going to cut the quality issue no matter how many of the tricks I try...and believe me I've been trying. I'm fascinated to see how they'd all link together. It took me a few run throughs of the dialogue to target my speech as actually...you know...talking TO another character.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 07, 2007, 10:30:09 AM
I'm actually holding off on re-recording until I get into school and ask to borrow a proper microphone off the music department now. I've got a feeling that my £4.99 microphone from Tescos ain't going to cut the quality issue no matter how many of the tricks I try...and believe me I've been trying.
What kind of mic would it be, an SM57 or some other dynamic mic?
In case you're not aware many semi-pro microphones use a three-pin XLR connector and require a 48v supply to drive them, so take care you will be able to make it work when you get it home :P
A dynamic mic should just work (assuming it's not XLR, or you have an XLR->jack convertor) but a condenser mic will require a preamp with phantom power.
You know what? I'm going to write these things down...
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 07, 2007, 09:30:39 AM
Here's a quick rendition of Aniz I did, with him totally round the twist. It seems the reason for the crystalline distortion sounds in my Abel stand-in were because the new soundcard can only record at 48khz.
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/aniz_jm.wav.mp3
Like you said, Aniz sometimes drifts into Merlitz, but other than that, that's rockin'!
Also, I mentally pronounce it "Ā`y-nĭz,"(hey look, Character mapper! Hope I got the symbology right.) with emphasis on the A, but local accents probably have a lot to do with that kind of thing, and I'm starting to feel silly about nitpicking all of the pronunciations.
At very least, I think I've finally adapted to the new pronunciation for "Wildy."
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 07, 2007, 09:30:39 AMHere's a quick rendition of Aniz I did, with him totally round the twist. It seems the reason for the crystalline distortion sounds in my Abel stand-in were because the new soundcard can only record at 48khz.
Not bad, but the excited voice sounds too close to...of all people, Wallace (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/6807/getoffch.wav) (but not Gromit). I don't know how you manage to do that without a Yorkshire accent, but the pitch and attack are just right.
By the way, I never heard what you thought of my preliminary takes, and I'm curious to hear what you thought.
Quote from: superluser on May 07, 2007, 02:39:12 PM
Not bad, but the excited voice sounds too close to...of all people, Wallace. I don't know how you manage to do that without a Yorkshire accent, but the pitch and attack are just right.
By the way, I never heard what you thought of my preliminary takes, and I'm curious to hear what you thought.
The voice is okay, but I thought he should sound a bit more manic. He should sound like he's having more fun doing this. That was one of the main reasons I did my recording, by the way - I was wondering if you could copy the style.
Hmm... lots of interesting takes on Aniz. I personally don't think he should be quite as manic as Tapewolf's take or superluser's second version. I hear him being a bit closer to rabid_fox's delivery, albeit slightly more animated.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 07, 2007, 08:11:28 AM
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 07, 2007, 08:02:17 AM
There's a chance that the mother having a different accent to Devin would really hammer home that he spent the formative years of his life without her, in the care of the aunt and uncle.
I'm not convinced. I've often been marked as having a London accent, even though I moved away from there when I was about 1.5. My brother was born in Swindon when I was 2 and he took the local accent - I didn't leave Swindon until about 5 years ago and I never really picked up the accent.
That said, my step-brother moved from Dursley to Kansas. It's quite fascinating to hear him gradually segue between Gloucestershire and American accents.
Most of the research in developmental linguistics points to people picking up accents from their childhood peer groups, not their parents or caregivers (at least not once they reach school age). In particular, accents tend to become fixed around middle school or early high school. In small towns with minimal outside contact, that's rarely an issue since everyone has the same accent anyway. (These days, you tend to see a flattening of accents due to mass media exposure, however.) Children of immigrants often have very different accents from their parents unless they live in heavily ghettoized communities. There are exceptions, of course. Some kids do learn multiple accents and switch depending on the situation, even locally (e.g. kids learning RP English at home or for theatre who don't want to get beat up on the playground).
So... we'd expect both Abel and Hennya to have Zinvth accents regardless of how their parents speak. Devin and Xander would probably have similar accents. Ditto for Dan or Jyrras and their respective sisters. I think it's less important to match parents than childhood friends and siblings.
That makes my Devin a bit of a maverick, though, doesn't it? Random Irish accent coming out of nowhere. Lets just pretend Zinvth is really rather multicultural.
Though...hold up a tick. Didn't Abel move to Zinvth? Devin doesn't live there. He lives in...ah...(after a quick flick I can't find the name of the town where Devin and Abel shared the very early part of their childhood) but it's what...at least about ten miles away by my reckoning. Enough for an accent alteration (christ, where I live, we talk about Derrytrasna accents, and that's a mile down the road).
Zinvth is the Demon-controlled city where Abel and Hennya grew up. We're not sure how far it is from the town in which Abel and Devin lived when they were little. (It's possibly running distance for a terrified Cubi. :animesweat) The latter may have been a bit multicultural, as well, however, though they certainly didn't display very cosmopolitan attitudes. We know that it had at least large enough ports to support a viable ship-building industry.
Also, Devin's aunt and uncle looked rather better off financially than "Cid" and May. We could use class distinctions as an excuse for discrepancies in accent.
Tee hee. I'm posh ^^ I just got done recording some more of Devin's dialogue, putting the quality aside to practice pitch, tone and delivery before I get the good microphone. Went from the "Aaaarrrgh, I don't want to be sodomised" bit to where the arrow got Devin, and left it there because I was reading off the comic (god bless Amber and her gloriously expressive faces).
Like I say in the recording, a few bits need smoothing over, but overall, I think that's how I'd approach delivering those lines. Some tricky parts in there where Devin's wrestling with his emotional state, I'm not sure how I've carried the effect of those over (hard to tell with your own voice).
After that thing about class marking, I'm going to add a quick posh-Devin snippet for giggles.
http://rapidshare.com/files/30066329/devinmoreii.mp3.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/30066329/devinmoreii.mp3.html) Devin from "Sodomise" to "I *arrow*" - 2nd attempt at those lines. Sorry if you heard the first, they were DEAD.
http://rapidshare.com/files/30062661/devinposh.mp3.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/30062661/devinposh.mp3.html) It's the upper-middle class social climber Devin!
(( edit: Fixed the link. Hope you don't mind -- llearch))
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 07, 2007, 08:18:46 AM
... since it's the parents you're most likely to pick your accent up from.
Not necessarily. My accent, and the accent of my wife, are both -definitively- not london. My son, on the other hand...
Note also that his nannies have been, for the most part, NZ or Australian, so it's not -them- he's picking it up off. Dead cute, though. :-]
BTW, you may want to ask some local tech about the hardware you borrow from the music dept. They're likely to have more idea what they've got on hand, and what you can plug it into...
I moved around a lot as a kid so as a result, I think I picked up much more from my parents than from the schools I went to. Thank god, because the accent I'd have forged otherwise would've sounded like someone trying to force a toad down their nose.
just got to your "Gosh and Golly, Abel, in all this time we've been walking together, I never realized you've got huge wings growing out of your back! so amaaaazing!" I know it's on purpose, but that still seems a bit stiff. I'm used to people over-animating sarcasm. Do you think you could give that a try?
Also, the whole "consoling Abel" part doesn't sound like Devin's in the middle of a battlefield. It sounds like he's... consoling Abel... in a calm room. I think it might sound good with a bit of panic added in. Actually, near the end of that first one, most of the lines are sounding tired. Perhaps another take on the later stuff.
But then, I don't seem to have any sort of active part in the Radio Project, so don't go bending backwards just for me.
Other than that, your Devin rocks!
[edit]Just listened to the second file. It sounds so wrong! I can't help laughing![/edit]
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 07, 2007, 02:48:24 PMThe voice is okay, but I thought he should sound a bit more manic. He should sound like he's having more fun doing this. That was one of the main reasons I did my recording, by the way - I was wondering if you could copy the style.
I'll look into it, but I don't think that he's gloating or being smarmy. Note that in 85, panel 5, his mouth is closed, suggesting that he's saying this matter-of-factly. That's actually telling me a lot about his character.
Quote from: Tezkat on May 07, 2007, 02:58:36 PMHmm... lots of interesting takes on Aniz. I personally don't think he should be quite as manic as Tapewolf's take or superluser's second version. I hear him being a bit closer to rabid_fox's delivery, albeit slightly more animated.
Once I get a bead on the character, I think I can dial him back a notch or two, but he definitely reads like he's slightly crazed. The depth perception line reads like Aniz is muttering to himself, and not something that he intended to say, so that's how I'm reading it.
Budget's a little tight near the first of the month, but I'll see if I can't find a clip of that Burgess Meredith character to show you how I'm seeing it.
As to which reading is right... (http://rapidshare.com/files/30086447/rightreading3.wav.mp3) (well, it's actually whichever one TW uses, since he's the boss)
Quote from: Fuyudenki on May 07, 2007, 09:44:47 PMjust got to your "Gosh and Golly, Abel, in all this time we've been walking together, I never realized you've got huge wings growing out of your back! so amaaaazing!" I know it's on purpose, but that still seems a bit stiff. I'm used to people over-animating sarcasm. Do you think you could give that a try?
It's worth a shot. I think Rabid's version of that line suffers from a sort of s**t or get off the pot syndrome. It's odd for me to hear someone with a whimsical Irish accent doing stilted speech. Maybe if you tried flattening your accent for those lines. Try Received, or go all the way and don't do it stilted at all. I'm not sure if those would be improvements, but it would be interesting to try.
Quote from: Fuyudenki on May 07, 2007, 09:44:47 PMAlso, the whole "consoling Abel" part doesn't sound like Devin's in the middle of a battlefield. It sounds like he's... consoling Abel... in a calm room. I think it might sound good with a bit of panic added in.
Panic or urgency. Short, clipped words, like he's spitting them out. Remember--he's not trying to console Abel, he's trying to get him to do what he wants; he wants Abel to be useful in this battle.
Also, you'd need the other lines to time this, but you should keep breathing in the background over 45 and environs.
Ok, I'll give those lines a re-do. I wasn't sure how other people were perceiving the Abel-Devin situation towards the end of Devin's part (life) in the comic, I ended up reading it as, yeah, consoling, thinking along the lines that he'd be duly upset enough by Xander's death to lose his battle-self (which is shown when he stands up). A bit more urgency would be suitable, definitely.
The "Gosh and golly Abel" bit - what am I aiming for there? I'm not sure what's been suggested, cause RP and me just don't mix, heh.
Though cheers for the feedback and suggestions, that's what it's all about.
It's interesting that you should actually ask for that, because I just recorded the way I hear it, on the off-shoot that someone would ask for it. Not trying to intrude on anyone's territory here, this is just something like how that particular line sounds in my head.
I'm not 100% satisfied with the tonality. Might be better if I actually dared shouting here, but I don't want to draw attention from anyone else who might be in earshot. Quality's lousy, but it's not supposed to be professional, just an example.
Also, when I think about accents, I tend to accidentally develop them, and they sound horrible, so if there's a nasty, fake-sounding Scottish/Irish/British accent in there... well, it's explained at the start of the file.
Giant wings! (http://www.landrymanor.com/ragefactor/giantwings.mp3)
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Aha. Yes, I'm going to have a shot at that. I see what you're meaning now. I went for stilting it, but that's much more lively...much more Devin.
http://rapidshare.com/files/30201719/devinreread.wav.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/30201719/devinreread.wav.html)
The sarcasm to joy and the "consoling Abel" lines hopefully fixed up to be more acceptably Devin'ish.
I wish Devin had more lines now. I'm enjoying myself way too much.
That sounds good. I really like how you fixed up the "talking to Abel behind the wagon" bit. Sounds much better now. :cheers
Listening to your clip and mine side-by-side, this is why you're the one with the voice, and I... well, I do my own thing.
1. Cheers. 2. Heh, yah, but your thing might just last more than "Oh, look, childhood friend oh frig ice spear, nuts."
Maybe i might have a roll through the main comic...any characters notably lacking in readers there I might fulfill?
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 08, 2007, 12:26:28 PMThe "Gosh and golly Abel" bit - what am I aiming for there? I'm not sure what's been suggested, cause RP and me just don't mix, heh.
If that doesn't work, I'd suggest looking into some of the flat accents that John Cleese does. I'm thinking of Cleese's accent during the Cheese Shop sketch (not the ``You like a nice dance, you're forced to'' one, the ``esurient'' one--especially in the Final Rip-Off version), or the American Cowboy accent that he does.
But I see you've redone the take, and I like it. I like just about everything about it. If you want, I can tell you everything that I think you can improve on, but that list is going to be long and boring, and it's going to give the incorrect impression that I don't like your version.
But I do want to comment on one thing:
The mouse clicks. They're too loud, and one (OSHI--getdowngetdowngetdown, maybe even ICE) is actually too close to the dialogue to remove effectively.
I'd recommend either getting llearch's transcription or transcribing the dialogue yourself. Or you can give a second or two pause after you completely stop before you switch strips. Or you could get the images and use a different image viewer. I use GQview (which may not be available for Windows), which lets you use the scroll wheel instead of the mouse buttons.
And two for the editor (that's you, TW):
1.) If we go with Rabid's version (and I think we should) and a Scottish version of Xander, this effectively turns the characters into comic relief. This isn't necessarily bad, but it provides a radically different tone for the characters (I'm calling to mind Michael Keaton's Dogberry). You're going to have to edit it differently. Just something to start thinking about.
2.) How are you going to do Devin's final thoughts? One thought that I had was that it might be interesting to try something like Different Trains (http://www.uni-oldenburg.de/musik/video/garte_seesko.html), where the words just sort of float through the audio track.
Well, when I give in more full readings, I'm not going to be mouse-clicking at all, I'll have all the dialogue in front of me with reminders of expression, which way he's looking and all that funky jazz. What I'm putting up now - just samplers to get feedback on how I'm reading the lines and if it's a horrible clash with expectations or not, heh.
The final thoughts, I think, should be one step above a whisper, except the "can't breathe" lines which'll sound slightly panicked. I don't know if you're familiar with the song "The Dying Soldier", but that's what I'm using as a template for them. If you're not, check it out, beautiful song, in an upsetting sort of way.
But yeah, all feedback is good feedback, I've never actually DONE anything like this before, so it's all new to me - you guys seem to be a lot more on top of it than I am and I'm willing to learn from you (plural) - I've picked up a lot already!
Quote from: superluser on May 08, 2007, 04:50:03 PM
I'm calling to mind Michael Keaton's Dogberry
.. And let it be known that -I- am an ass!
Quote from: superluser on May 08, 2007, 04:50:03 PM
1.) If we go with Rabid's version (and I think we should) and a Scottish version of Xander, this effectively turns the characters into comic relief. This isn't necessarily bad, but it provides a radically different tone for the characters (I'm calling to mind Michael Keaton's Dogberry). You're going to have to edit it differently. Just something to start thinking about.
Here's the rough edit promised yesterday. There's a number of things to tidy up, and I'd forgotten that Oleg had improvised quite a lot, but it should give us some idea of whether this is what we're aiming for. I've got the beginnings of a score, but I haven't tried to integrate it yet.
http://dmfa.it-he.org/dmfa/abel41.wav.mp3 -
WARNING: contains the F-wordQuoteHow are you going to do Devin's final thoughts? One thought that I had was that it might be interesting to try something like Different Trains (http://www.uni-oldenburg.de/musik/video/garte_seesko.html), where the words just sort of float through the audio track.
I can't decode that, so I'm not sure what it does. I'll see if I can get it to go at work during lunch.
With Dan's death sequence I used tape echo and panned the echos around in a circle on the mixer (the version used in the final cut of the radio project was actually dubbed across from the multitrack of the album version). To be honest I haven't decided yet, but slowly increasing the reverb while fading out the dry signal is another possible approach.
Hah! It actually comes together quite well when you hear it like that. Thoug Zander's a bit...hrrrnnn...TOO Scottish, if you know what I mean? It'd be like me giving Devin "Top a' te mordin t'ye!" inflection. The Scottish Xander works, definitely, but maybe not THAT Scottish.
I see what you mean about the recording quality in mine when I hear it like that, mind you. There's a greasy little sound in the back that I don't like one bit.
Still, that's fantastic to hear it all put in as one like that. Nice one!
Second listen thoughts. Socttish Xander definitely works, but it gets more hammed up as it goes along, it starts fine, I think. Probably is that if one of them sounds a bit hammed, then the other sounds hammed too, and it does become a lot of comedy relief. Which, granted, Xander and Devin are, but the serious bits that come later'll get detracted from.
By the way, if you're actually Scottish and I'm being horribly insulting here, sorry!
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 08, 2007, 05:23:51 PMThe final thoughts, I think, should be one step above a whisper, except the "can't breathe" lines which'll sound slightly panicked. I don't know if you're familiar with the song "The Dying Soldier", but that's what I'm using as a template for them. If you're not, check it out, beautiful song, in an upsetting sort of way.
I'd be an advocate for doing that in editing, rather than acting. That's mainly because I like the concept of Devin's voice as he's thinking being clear and loud because it's unfettered by meat, but the voice getting filtered as it's leaving his body and getting picked up by Abel.
I'll have to check out the Dying Soldier song. I might need an artist to find it.
As to long-winded, specific advice...
``...I think I snorted a feather...'' reads to me like he was actually saying something between 58 and 59, so you might want to try to make it sound like there might have been something else that we cut off.
Great reading on ``if they spot you, they'll blast you, wings or not.''
It's a good reading on ``This isn't the time to cry'' & seq., but you might try a reading where Devin says that completely emotionlessly, like the Litany Against Fear. It may be wrong, but I think you should give it a shot.
``Thirty seconds.'' needs to be said very matter-of-factly, or whimperingly. Absolutely no question mark on the end. I'm reminded of the bit in the Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy where they hold a seance--perhaps not as much whispering, but certainly the same matter-of-fact delivery.
I'd suggest watching some ER, but that might be too emotionally detached.
On ``The hell are these?'', I think it's less of Devin trying to figure out what they are, and more that he wants Abel to tell him.
Imagine that you're a restaurant critic and you go out to a fancy restaurant, and the waiter sets out a place setting with fifteen forks and twelve spoons, and sets something on your plate that look almost, but not quite entirely unlike a lobster cracker. And you're having the chicken. Obviously, he gave it to you for a reason. You look up at him and say, ``The hell are these?'' Not quite like the father who comes home and asks his son what his box of drugs is, though.
On ``Woa--sh*t! They're attached!'' he sounds like he's stifling a laugh, which is (in my opinion) wrong. He should be pulling away, most likely from fright, but possibly from disgust. Again, imagine. You're 8 years old again, and you're hunting for nightcrawlers. You find a nice, large rock with a big worm sticking out, and you grab it and start to pull. A few seconds later, you realize that it's a feeler for some hideous elephant beetle sort of thing. You pull back and shout, ``Woa--sh*t! They're attached!'' That's the disgust one. For fright, imagine that it's a snapping turtle's tongue.
You're doing a great job, and I hope what I've said encourages you to continue, but those things should really be improved, in my opinion. All of this is, of course, my opinion, and should be discounted if you have good reasons to. Or bad reasons. If you've decided that you don't like advice given on a Wednesday, that's a good enough reason.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 08, 2007, 07:31:59 PM
Hah! It actually comes together quite well when you hear it like that. Though Xander's a bit...hrrrnnn...TOO Scottish, if you know what I mean?
Yeah, well Marakov hasn't logged in since Christmas, so we might have to find another Xander anyway :(
QuoteI see what you mean about the recording quality in mine when I hear it like that, mind you. There's a greasy little sound in the back that I don't like one bit.
To be honest I haven't even tried to do any noise reduction on yours because you were going to redo them when you can get a higher-end mic. That's one of the things which could do with being tidied up.
Good grief, it is Wednesday. No, those are all useful hints. I'm going to ask around about the quality microphone tomorrow, with luck, and then I can get down to recording it with better quality and, when I'm at that, I can think more about starters, stops and the hints youv'e given me there. I'll defenitely give them a shot, at least, see how it sounds, see if I can carry it off. Ain't often you get that level of feedback in depth, and I dig that. Cheers, man!
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 08, 2007, 07:42:36 PM
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 08, 2007, 07:31:59 PM
Hah! It actually comes together quite well when you hear it like that. Though Xander's a bit...hrrrnnn...TOO Scottish, if you know what I mean?
Yeah, well Marakov hasn't logged in since Christmas, so we might have to find another Xander anyway :(
Well, darn. I suppose that's the hassle with something like that. Internet's a fickle thing, ain't it? Yeah, like I say, going to hassle the music department this week and really try to drill out a quality recording this weekend, maybe sooner.
The Ladies for Compassionate Lynching approve of that mix, though. It's very interesting to hear the different people coming together.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 08, 2007, 06:55:35 PM.. And let it be known that -I- am an ass!
You get a cookie.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 08, 2007, 07:24:32 PMWith Dan's death sequence I used tape echo and panned the echos around in a circle on the mixer (the version used in the final cut of the radio project was actually dubbed across from the multitrack of the album version).
That works for Dan's death because we're actually in Dan's head. IMHO, Devin's death should be slightly different because we're outside, listening to what's coming out.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 08, 2007, 07:36:15 PMBy the way, if you're actually Scottish and I'm being horribly insulting here, sorry!
I recall that someone was visiting England and was debating whether to try to imitate a British accent, since he picks up accents like nothing anyways. I pointed him to the bit in Snatch where Turkish effects an American accent (MP3 (http://www.frontiernet.net/~superluser/busacap.mp3)), and he promptly decided against it.
I think I can do semi-passable Received, if I try. Also, I think I pulled off whatever accent those Findus guys were doing. Also, I cannot do Orson Welles, as you can see.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 08, 2007, 07:44:37 PM
Good grief, it is Wednesday.
Yeah, it's still Tuesday over here. I was trying to figure out...UTC -5, 1700...
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 08, 2007, 07:44:37 PMAin't often you get that level of feedback in depth, and I dig that. Cheers, man!
The trouble is that that's the sort of stuff that (I assume) you get when you're actually recording the lines with someone in the booth. You've got tons of tape, and all you have to do is say, ``I want that line done over with this spin on it, or that spin.'' But when you're doing this over the internet, it seems rather trivial to say something like, ``You did that take with too little emotion. Go back, get your studio set up again, rerecord, send it back to rapidshare, and wait for more comments,'' if it's something very minor.
Devin sounds good, looking forward to a redub with less echo. Xander's absolutely great. Now, we're back to Abel. I think your Abel needs some better sound equipment.
The rough edit sounds great! Audiological anomolies aside, the characters sound like they're actually responding to each other. Can't wait to hear the final dub.
Quote from: superluser on May 08, 2007, 08:07:08 PM
I recall that someone was visiting England and was debating whether to try to imitate a British accent, since he picks up accents like nothing anyways. I pointed him to the bit in Snatch where Turkish effects an American accent (MP3 (http://www.frontiernet.net/~superluser/busacap.mp3)), and he promptly decided against it.
Surprisingly, if I only heard the "American accent" portion of that, I'd probably think it was the real deal. Reminds me of Will Smith, except with a deeper voice. Of note: I
am American. Coloradoan, to be specific. I occasionally have the slightest southern drawl that you can only hear when Steam's voice chat filters it up.
Sounds good, although I can hear the various bits people have commented upon.
(Just thought you guys might appreciate that others are listening :-)
Hmm... since I finally found a little mic time, I thought I'd offer a take on Aniz (http://dmfa.tezkat.com/temp/Tezkat%20-%20Aniz.mp3). Okay, so my campy "villain always has to be English" voice is just silly, :3 but the delivery is in the neighbourhood of how I think you should read Aniz in terms of attitude and emotionality. He's playfully happy and secure throughout the whole scene, with just the hint of threat. He certainly doesn't look angry at the end. If you can pull that off with a deeper, slightly more serious American accent, I think you'd nail the character.
The
other villains always have to be English, though (http://dmfa.tezkat.com/temp/Tezkat%20-%20Kria's%20Master.mp3). :kittydevious
Quote from: superluser on May 08, 2007, 08:07:08 PM
I recall that someone was visiting England and was debating whether to try to imitate a British accent, since he picks up accents like nothing anyways. I pointed him to the bit in Snatch where Turkish effects an American accent (MP3 (http://www.frontiernet.net/~superluser/busacap.mp3)), and he promptly decided against it.
I think I can do semi-passable Received, if I try. Also, I think I pulled off whatever accent those Findus guys were doing. Also, I cannot do Orson Welles, as you can see.
That sample wasn't bad. Actually, I'm a tad jealous; I personally have a lot of trouble mimicking African American accents. For the record, I can't pull off a very convincing Orson Welles, either, no matter how many times I try to take over the world. :animesweat
I do have a nasty habit of picking up bits of local accents when I travel, however...
Quote from: Tezkat on May 09, 2007, 08:04:56 PMHmm... since I finally found a little mic time, I thought I'd offer a take on Aniz (http://dmfa.tezkat.com/temp/Tezkat%20-%20Aniz.mp3). Okay, so my campy "villain always has to be English" voice is just silly, :3 but the delivery is in the neighbourhood of how I think you should read Aniz in terms of attitude and emotionality. He's playfully happy and secure throughout the whole scene, with just the hint of threat. He certainly doesn't look angry at the end. If you can pull that off with a deeper, slightly more serious American accent, I think you'd nail the character.
He seems happy, and smug, but not secure (or gloating). On the last line of 85, I was tempted to say that I was planning to connect that line with the next one, but it turned out that I would have to wait for May's line. He seemed to be on a roll.
The way you (and TW) read him seems to be a pretty straightforward view of the character, but this doesn't seem to be a straightforward situation. I'll even say that I don't think that I can do the voice if it's supposed to be straightforward. For a variety of reasons, but mainly that I don't think that I can grok the character.
Edit: what I mean by not secure is that it reads sort of like his foot's gone numb, and he's still trying to rub feeling into it.
Quote from: Tezkat on May 09, 2007, 08:04:56 PMThe other villains always have to be English, though (http://dmfa.tezkat.com/temp/Tezkat%20-%20Kria's%20Master.mp3).
Why is he enunciating like that? I don't see that sort of enunciation coming from him. Unless he's a sort of Darth Vader character, I don't see him coming out of a battle where one of his students died and another deserted being cool, calm and collected. Even if he didn't even break a sweat, I think he'd be pretty excited. I'm trying to think of a good reference, but I'm coming up with nothing. I just think that Kria's teacher shouldn't sound like he stepped out of the trailer, blow-dried and ready to go.
For alternative interpretations, I can almost see a working-class accent on it.
(Michael Caine might be fun to try! I think any line can be improved by having Michael Caine say it. It wouldn't work from a stylistic standpoint, but it *would* be fun.)
Edit: Also, I don't think that the pronunciation/accent is wrong, just the timbre of the voice. Maybe I should just re-write this message (but I'm not going to).
I too did a take on Aniz. It didn't seem right to really play the "evil sound" to his voice, since he seems to be having fun about it. Though I think I came out sounding like he was having a little TOO much fun. x3
http://media.putfile.com/Aniz-by-Goatmon
doesn't sound much like Aniz to me, but I think you should take a shot at Albanion. That's exactly the kind of voice I think he needs.
Y'know, I just might do that. :mowsmile
Finally managed to play back the Aniz files by Tezkat and Goatmon. I agree that Goatmon's voice would probably be better for Albanion.
I'd say Tezkat has mastered the forgetful part of Aniz' speech. The accent is peculiar, though - it's like something from 'Round the Horne'. I'm undecided as to how well the accent works in fact, although unless someone else manages to nail Aniz completely and does such a good job on the acting I'll be happy to go with it.
As for the shadowy guy, his lack of concern IMHO makes it all the more creepy. The two voices are somewhat similar though so I'm not sure we could get away with using both unless it turns out that Mr. Shadow was Aniz anyway, which Amber has implied is not the case.
I just listened to Tezkat-Aniz, too. That's good, but I think it would fit better if Aniz had a handlebar mustache than a goatee. Sounds very Snidley Whiplash.
Which, of course, had the offshoot of almost sending me into giggles. ALWAYS A GOOD SIGN! :grin
Oh, I say! Jolly good show, what?
*snicker*
Well. This is a turn up for the book. I got an elbow in the throat today breaking up a fight in the corridor and my voice is totally askew. Apologies, but it'll probably be a week before I'm good to record anything decent.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 10, 2007, 03:03:22 PM
I'd say Tezkat has mastered the forgetful part of Aniz' speech. The accent is peculiar, though - it's like something from 'Round the Horne'. I'm undecided as to how well the accent works in fact, although unless someone else manages to nail Aniz completely and does such a good job on the acting I'll be happy to go with it.
Um... er... I wasn't seriously auditioning for Aniz. :animesweat
To tell you the truth, the accent wasn't really supposed to work. I took the camp English villain voice (mostly Tim Curry, with some Kenneth Williams, Jeremy Irons, and a menagerie of cartoon antagonists mixed in) that I pull out when I plan on badly overacting an evil villain, and I smoothed it out a tad for the part. Personally, I'd prefer to hear Aniz with an American accent. (And less gay... :3) I'd have trouble playing him with one, however. People would wonder why Abel and Dan have the same dad...
Quote from: Tapewolf
As for the shadowy guy, his lack of concern IMHO makes it all the more creepy. The two voices are somewhat similar though so I'm not sure we could get away with using both unless it turns out that Mr. Shadow was Aniz anyway, which Amber has implied is not the case.
Shadow guy is how my normal speaking voice sounds with a Patrick Stewart style theatrical RP accent. He does sound reasonably distinguishable from Aniz to me, but then I'm hardly unbiased. If I pump the villainousness back up, the Aniz voice could work for this guy instead, however.
Quote from: superluser on May 09, 2007, 10:34:41 PM
Why is he enunciating like that? I don't see that sort of enunciation coming from him. Unless he's a sort of Darth Vader character, I don't see him coming out of a battle where one of his students died and another deserted being cool, calm and collected. Even if he didn't even break a sweat, I think he'd be pretty excited. I'm trying to think of a good reference, but I'm coming up with nothing. I just think that Kria's teacher shouldn't sound like he stepped out of the trailer, blow-dried and ready to go.
For alternative interpretations, I can almost see a working-class accent on it.
(Michael Caine might be fun to try! I think any line can be improved by having Michael Caine say it. It wouldn't work from a stylistic standpoint, but it *would* be fun.)
Edit: Also, I don't think that the pronunciation/accent is wrong, just the timbre of the voice. Maybe I should just re-write this message (but I'm not going to).
The character honestly didn't feel very "excited" to me. I saw him as a cold-blooded bastard who watched his students kill and be killed with detached amusement or annoyance, perhaps, but not bubbling with excitement. If anything, I'd be inclined to try making him even icier. But that's just me...
Besides, it's a fun voice to do. :kittycool I'm not sure where I could take the timbre and still keep the accent, however. A softer reading with less gravel would become something similar to my Dr. Ink voice. A rougher voice might turn out a bit too cartoony. Maybe adding a bit of air and age? Raising the pitch a bit could certainly work for the character--except then it would sound like the voice I'd just recorded for Aniz (unless I go even higher into the super camp range).
Apparently, I can't quite manage Michael Caine (a source of annoyance, as he's supposedly easy to mimic), but did I try a reading with a more Cockney/Home Counties accent. I
killed it with fire.
:kittydevious
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 10, 2007, 04:05:43 PM
Well. This is a turn up for the book. I got an elbow in the throat today breaking up a fight in the corridor and my voice is totally askew. Apologies, but it'll probably be a week before I'm good to record anything decent.
Ouch. Get well soon! :mowcookie
Quote from: Tezkat on May 10, 2007, 05:31:52 PM
Apparently, I can't quite manage Michael Caine (a source of annoyance, as he's supposedly easy to mimic), but did I try a reading with a more Cockney/Home Counties accent. I killed it with fire.
Camp Freddy, we all know...
... You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!
*innocent look*
Quote from: Tezkat on May 10, 2007, 05:31:52 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 10, 2007, 03:03:22 PM
The accent is peculiar, though - it's like something from 'Round the Horne'.
I took the camp English villain voice (mostly Tim Curry, with some Kenneth Williams, Jeremy Irons, and a menagerie of cartoon antagonists mixed in)
That would account for it :P
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 10, 2007, 04:05:43 PM
Well. This is a turn up for the book. I got an elbow in the throat today breaking up a fight in the corridor and my voice is totally askew. Apologies, but it'll probably be a week before I'm good to record anything decent.
Ack. Hope it gets better soon.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 10, 2007, 03:03:22 PMAs for the shadowy guy, his lack of concern IMHO makes it all the more creepy.
The lack of concern is right. The timbre/accent, IMHO, is not.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 10, 2007, 03:03:22 PMMr. Shadow was Aniz anyway, which Amber has implied is not the case.
No, she bet me that *Cid* wasn't Mr. Shadow. (I had been meaning to bring this point up)
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 10, 2007, 04:05:43 PMWell. This is a turn up for the book. I got an elbow in the throat today breaking up a fight in the corridor and my voice is totally askew. Apologies, but it'll probably be a week before I'm good to record anything decent.
That's no good! Get well, man.
Quote from: Tezkat on May 10, 2007, 05:31:52 PMTo tell you the truth, the accent wasn't really supposed to work. I took the camp English villain voice (mostly Tim Curry, with some Kenneth Williams, Jeremy Irons
:kittycool Now I get it! That is an awesome cross of Tim Curry and Jeremy Irons.
Quote from: Tezkat on May 10, 2007, 05:31:52 PMShadow guy is how my normal speaking voice sounds with a Patrick Stewart style theatrical RP accent. He does sound reasonably distinguishable from Aniz to me, but then I'm hardly unbiased.
I was going to suggest that he sounded a bit like (a British) Jon Lovitz as the Master Thespian.
If I were listening to this at home, and I came to Tezkat's Aniz and Mr. Shadow, I'd start thinking, ``Those voices sound awfully similar. I wonder if it's the same voice actor.'' They're easily distinguishable, and for the purposes of a radio play, the audience would clearly identify them as two people based on those voices, but they do sound very similar.
Quote from: Tezkat on May 10, 2007, 05:31:52 PMThe character honestly didn't feel very "excited" to me. I saw him as a cold-blooded bastard who watched his students kill and be killed with detached amusement or annoyance, perhaps, but not bubbling with excitement. If anything, I'd be inclined to try making him even icier. But that's just me...
I don't necessarily mean excited as in happy, just excited as in, ``If I don't have a cool-down lap, I'm going to wind up with cramps.''
Quote from: Tezkat on May 10, 2007, 05:31:52 PMApparently, I can't quite manage Michael Caine (a source of annoyance, as he's supposedly easy to mimic)
It's easy to make it obvious that you're trying to imitate him, even though no one actually sounds like him. Likewise, Christopher Walken. Look up Walkentalk (NSFW) for an example.
http://media.putfile.com/Albanion
Here we have Albanion's dialog, excluding today's page because it wasn't up yet at the time. I may record additional dialog later, but I think I'll be lazy and wait for more pages to come first.
Quote from: superluser on May 10, 2007, 08:05:52 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 10, 2007, 03:03:22 PMMr. Shadow was Aniz anyway, which Amber has implied is not the case.
No, she bet me that *Cid* wasn't Mr. Shadow. (I had been meaning to bring this point up)
Ohohoho. That would be just the sort of misdirection Amber likes.
I'll check the Albanion thing when I get home because putfile crashes my work browers, as I have occasionally mentioned >:3
Quote from: Goatmon on May 11, 2007, 01:20:11 AMHere we have Albanion's dialog, excluding today's page because it wasn't up yet at the time. I may record additional dialog later, but I think I'll be lazy and wait for more pages to come first.
Not bad, but doesn't the popcorn make it more difficult for you to talk? I don't think I could do a take right after eating a bunch of salty popcorn. Or was that a later take that you edited in? (Actually, I can hear the water in your mouth, so it sounds like that must be one take)
If Albanion is royalty (his relationship to Nutmeg would seem to suggest this, but he could be a commoner turned king consort or a page), then I'd expect him to sound *slightly* more royal.
Emphasis on slightly. It's a great voice for Albanion, and I think it would work out great. I'd work on making your `s's more refined, *if* it turns out that Albanion should have a more stately pronunciation. This might even be popcorn-related.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 11, 2007, 07:13:50 AM
Quote from: superluser on May 10, 2007, 08:05:52 PMNo, she bet me that *Cid* wasn't Mr. Shadow. (I had been meaning to bring this point up)
Ohohoho. That would be just the sort of misdirection Amber likes.
...You know, I just checked the quote (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2664.0), and I said `he,' not `Cid.' I just assumed that I had because it *is* the type of misdirection that Amber likes. I might have implied that `he' was `Cid' in the thread that was used (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2663.msg109763#msg109763).
I've just checked out Goatmon's Albanion voice. I like it. My only comment so far is that it's a bit too intelligible for someone who's eating. I'd kind of expect the odd moment where he's pausing to eat some more or even trying to talk with one side of his mouth full of food. Particularly when Jy and Lorenda suddenly spot him.
Ok folks. Could I ask for another role that needs filling? You know my voice now and you know what needs filling. I'm feeling at a loose end, cause I was enjoying doing this so much and suddenly, bazam, throat elbow. So annoyed. I'd like to look into another role while I'm out of action.
*Works on an Aniz recording*
...er, how do I get my lines up, again?
you mean, how do you upload them, or how do you find the scripts?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 13, 2007, 04:06:27 AM
you mean, how do you upload them, or how do you find the scripts?
Uploading.
Put them on a website somewhere.
If you're still stuck, email them to me, and I'll put them up for you.
Or you can email Tapewolf. Or...
Yeah. Let's just stop there. :-) If you're still stuck, pm me, and we'll sort something out.
Just do RapidShare. It's free, and I think it's unlimited.
Well, there's always Rapidshare. It gets a bit picky if you download more than one thing a day, though, but it's okay in moderation...
[As Superluser points out. But he didn't point out the drawbacks so I'm posting this anyway]
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 11, 2007, 04:34:04 PM
I've just checked out Goatmon's Albanion voice. I like it. My only comment so far is that it's a bit too intelligible for someone who's eating. I'd kind of expect the odd moment where he's pausing to eat some more or even trying to talk with one side of his mouth full of food. Particularly when Jy and Lorenda suddenly spot him.
I'll keep that in mind.... :mowcookie
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 13, 2007, 02:55:02 PM
Put them on a website somewhere.
If you're still stuck, email them to me, and I'll put them up for you.
Um, how do I email you?
via pm. Or via the email address that I believe is on the forum?
Or is that hidden?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 13, 2007, 05:05:14 PMvia pm. Or via the email address that I believe is on the forum?
Or is that hidden?
Yours is.
bugger. Sorry about that. Although, to be honest, my email address is not that hard to figure out.
I own llearch.net. That should be enough to figure it out. :-)
locked pending a shiney new thread!