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Title: 02/05/08 [DMFA #899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Tapewolf on May 02, 2008, 04:58:32 PM
I notice Dan hasn't done anything to change her misconception...
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Ren Gaulen on May 02, 2008, 05:02:44 PM
Yeah. Because it is easier to ditch her than to try to reason with her. Sure, Dan could use some help, but Aliyka would have been more of a burden anyway.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Fragmaster01 on May 02, 2008, 05:46:31 PM
"...you can see all this... at the Mounted Animal Nature Trail!"
Anyway.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Ryan_Galen on May 02, 2008, 06:09:42 PM
...Dan is smarter then Aliyka.
Dan, is smarter, then Aliyka.
Daniel Ti'Fona is more intelligent then Aliyka.

...nope. Doesn't matter how I say it, my brain just doesn't believe what I'm reading between the lines in today's comic. Then again maybe I'm jus reading too far between the lines.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Wanderer on May 02, 2008, 06:15:43 PM
Talking's a free action, Amber!

You brought up the RPG reference first, don't blame me. :P
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Ren Gaulen on May 02, 2008, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: Ryan_Galen on May 02, 2008, 06:09:42 PM
...Dan is smarter then Aliyka.
Dan, is smarter, then Aliyka.
Daniel Ti'Fona is more intelligent then Aliyka.

...nope. Doesn't matter how I say it, my brain just doesn't believe what I'm reading between the lines in today's comic. Then again maybe I'm jus reading too far between the lines.

No, Dan is smarter than Aliyka. He could be quite intelligent and cunning if he ever put any effort into it. The point is Dan does not realize how smart he really is yet. He has not even started to release his potential. Also, during the times of the flashback he was less self-confident and, therefore, less prone to make stupid moves.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Tapewolf on May 02, 2008, 06:20:06 PM
Quote from: Ryan_Galen on May 02, 2008, 06:09:42 PM
...Dan is smarter then Aliyka.
Dan, is smarter, then Aliyka.
Daniel Ti'Fona is more intelligent then Aliyka.

There is something seriously wrong with her head if she thinks that Dan - totally unarmed, dressed in a frock with a flower or something in his hair and having shown no inclination to attack her even after she hit him - is in league with Dark Pegasus.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 02, 2008, 06:33:23 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 02, 2008, 06:20:06 PM
There is something seriously wrong with her head

That was all you had to say. ;-]
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Brunhidden on May 02, 2008, 06:45:16 PM
i am beginning to believe the birdchick had some past experiences with mind expanding substances to which the term 'expanding' is false advertising.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Ren Gaulen on May 02, 2008, 06:45:41 PM
I think Dark P has broken her brain. Then again, she was not all that bright before he caught her.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Wanderer on May 02, 2008, 06:50:07 PM
Quote from: Ryan_Galen on May 02, 2008, 06:09:42 PM
...Dan is smarter then Aliyka.
Dan, is smarter, then Aliyka.
Daniel Ti'Fona is more intelligent then Aliyka.

...nope. Doesn't matter how I say it, my brain just doesn't believe what I'm reading between the lines in today's comic. Then again maybe I'm jus reading too far between the lines.
I don't know... I was never really that impressed with Aliyka's intelligence to begin with. I mean, hell she seemed genuinely surprised at DP attempting to summon the dark god... again.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: AmigaDragon on May 02, 2008, 06:55:37 PM
One question I have (and we may find out as early as monday) is whether Dan got far enough away during her speech that she has to hunt to find him, or she still sees him. Also, how badly will she get in the way once she does catch up?
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Naldru on May 02, 2008, 07:38:37 PM
However, there is one point that should be kept in mind:  Aliyka is still alive and her cast page (http://www.missmab.com/Cast/aliyka.php) indicates that her methods are effective.  I get the feeling that if Aliyka and Dan double-team Dark Pegasus, he will expire from sheer exasperation.

I also notice that Aliyka got better with headclunking over time (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_125.php), although the later headclunk had the assistance of Mab.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Ren Gaulen on May 02, 2008, 07:45:24 PM
Quote from: Naldru on May 02, 2008, 07:38:37 PM
However, there is one point that should be kept in mind:  Aliyka is still alive and her cast page (http://www.missmab.com/Cast/aliyka.php) indicates that her methods are effective.
Nah. She's alive simply because no villain could be bothered to kill her.

Quote from: Naldru on May 02, 2008, 07:38:37 PM
I get the feeling that if Aliyka and Dan double-team Dark Pegasus, he will expire from sheer exasperation.
That is if Dan does not die from the same first... We already know that she can annoy the hell out of him.

Quote from: Naldru on May 02, 2008, 07:38:37 PM
I also notice that Aliyka got better with headclunking over time (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_125.php), although the later headclunk had the assistance of Mab.
Considering how Mab's are Fists of Justice, Aliyka's role in that "klunk" is insignificant.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Slowtini on May 02, 2008, 11:10:45 PM
I see. So you are the type to sneaky off while I talk.

THAT MADE MY DAY! Thank you for that, Amber.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Zedd on May 03, 2008, 04:54:43 AM
Might as well go bare naked and fight DP with a lone feather if we want her to go on with her problems  :P
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Brunhidden on May 03, 2008, 07:14:49 AM
Quote from: Zedd on May 03, 2008, 04:54:43 AM
Might as well go bare naked and fight DP with a lone feather if we want her to go on with her problems  :P

bare chested, like he was mocked for before.

fighting in only just enough to cover your junk is very heroic, and his early pants with sash combo is all he really needs to look the part
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Akisohida on May 03, 2008, 08:30:40 AM
Quote from: Brunhidden on May 03, 2008, 07:14:49 AM
Quote from: Zedd on May 03, 2008, 04:54:43 AM
Might as well go bare naked and fight DP with a lone feather if we want her to go on with her problems  :P

bare chested, like he was mocked for before.

fighting in only just enough to cover your junk is very heroic, and his early pants with sash combo is all he really needs to look the part

WHy is that called junk, yet junk in your tr-no, no..Just no. Some questions should not be asked.

Anyways, I still don't think that is Aly, unless Amber has said differently and I missed it. I mean, could be 'Still into that hippy non-violence thing' means she was a pacifist when Dan met her and this bird is certainly a pacifist..but I just don't think it is Aly.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Tapewolf on May 03, 2008, 08:44:32 AM
Do you suppose Aliyka was sent because the Queen thought her expendable?
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Ren Gaulen on May 03, 2008, 08:54:32 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 03, 2008, 08:44:32 AM
Do you suppose Aliyka was sent because the Queen thought her expendable?

I doubt that. For all we know Aliyka might have volunteered.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Tapewolf on May 03, 2008, 09:06:25 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on May 03, 2008, 08:54:32 AM
I doubt that. For all we know Aliyka might have volunteered.

The two are not mutually exclusive...
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Ren Gaulen on May 03, 2008, 09:10:32 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 03, 2008, 09:06:25 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on May 03, 2008, 08:54:32 AM
I doubt that. For all we know Aliyka might have volunteered.

The two are not mutually exclusive...

Queen did not strike me as a person who would send someone on a potentially suicide mission just because of that person being expendable. Then again, she might have made an exception for Aliyka.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 03, 2008, 09:14:05 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on May 03, 2008, 09:10:32 AM
Queen did not strike me as a person who would send someone on a potentially suicide mission just because of that person being expendable. Then again, she might have made an exception for Aliyka.

She's got you fooled, hasn't she? ;-]
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Ren Gaulen on May 03, 2008, 09:16:51 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 03, 2008, 09:14:05 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on May 03, 2008, 09:10:32 AM
Queen did not strike me as a person who would send someone on a potentially suicide mission just because of that person being expendable. Then again, she might have made an exception for Aliyka.

She's got you fooled, hasn't she? ;-]
Apparently... :sweatdrop
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: techmaster-glitch on May 03, 2008, 12:36:42 PM
So the bad guys and the good guys need to learn the lesson of No Monologues! I'm pretty sure that's on the Evil Overlord list, but I can't recall whcih one at the moment...
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Naldru on May 03, 2008, 11:19:36 PM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on May 03, 2008, 12:36:42 PM
So the bad guys and the good guys need to learn the lesson of No Monologues! I'm pretty sure that's on the Evil Overlord list, but I can't recall whcih one at the moment...
I checked a few lists and couldn't find a specific section on monologues.

http://quoll.uwaterloo.ca/mine/overlord.html

http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html

However Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathtrap_(plot_device)) did have a little under "Villain Speech" and tvtropes (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TalkingIsAFreeAction) also had a little on the subject.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Janus Whitefurr on May 04, 2008, 05:52:38 AM
My eyes kept going back to the page header.

A cawing crow. "I guess it's still alive."

Eric Draven sends his regards to Amber, I do think, unless I'm thinking of the wrong movie.

*disappear*
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 04, 2008, 06:08:27 AM
Quote from: Naldru on May 03, 2008, 11:19:36 PM
http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html

#6, 7, 11, 16...

#142 and 176 in Cellblock A are amusing.
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Fragmaster01 on May 04, 2008, 06:09:41 AM
No, tis from the Canadian comedy band Arrogant Worms: http://www.lyricsdownload.com/worms-arrogant-mounted-animal-nature-trail-lyrics.html
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 04, 2008, 06:31:48 AM
Heh. I always preferred Jesus Brother Bob. ;-]
Title: Re: 02/05/08 [DMFA#899] - Shorter speeches
Post by: Naldru on May 04, 2008, 11:14:25 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 04, 2008, 06:08:27 AM
Quote from: Naldru on May 03, 2008, 11:19:36 PM
http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html

#6, 7, 11, 16...

#142 and 176 in Cellblock A are amusing.
I guess I shouldn't find anything about good guys monologing since this is the list of hints for the evil overlord.  After all, Aliyka doesn't really have Dan at her mercy in this scene.

Somehow, Fa'lina's comment seems more appropriate here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_011.php) as well as the tvtropes section on Talking is a Free Action (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TalkingIsAFreeAction).

Should we start a new list for good guys:

! When the villain says "I'll surrender peacefully to the authorities if you grant this one request", he (or she) is lying.

2.  Don't try to exchange yourself for the hostages the villain is holding.  He (or she) will simply keep both you and the hostages.

3.  People who lie, cheat, and steal for a living can seldom be trusted.

4.  If the villain is about to kill hundreds of hostages, it really is okay to kill him (or her) from ambush.

5.  If you are in a duel with your opponent and you manage to disarm her (or him), don't give your enemy a chance to regain the weapon before continuing.

6.  It's okay to hit a woman if she's trying to kill you.

7.  If the villain demands the return of the final part of his doomsday device in return for not killing an innocent person, don't give the part over without first making it inoperable.  Sure it's cheating, but he's probably going to kill the two of you anyway.

8.  When you capture the vital piece of the villain's doomsday device, render it inoperative immediately.  Magnetic media can be erased by using a strong magnet.  CD's and DVD's can be rendered useless by scraping off the surface and then using a blowtorch.  You can then glue a second disk to it so that it appears undamaged unless closely examined.  Better yet, fill the part with explosives so that it will kill the villain when he tries to activate the device.  Having the villain hoist on his own petard is actually desirable.  (In case you are wondering what that actually means, it means to be blown up by your own hand grenade.  The timing devices on early hand grenades left something to be desired.)