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Title: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Pagan on February 13, 2008, 12:02:54 AM
I'm liking this new update schedule. Three bonus comics a week rock.

But as for this strip itself, was that last panel an attempt at cute?
If so, it passed my test.

By the way, who's writing TotF now?
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Darkmoon on February 13, 2008, 12:55:17 PM
I am. I've been writing it since the last 10 comics or so of the old ToF run.

And yeah, I can see how this would be like 3 bonus comics a week, if you didn't read DSWC certainly.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Castle Pokemetroid on February 14, 2008, 01:06:35 AM
Hey Dmoon, how can you do this every single week day of the week, anyways?
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Darkmoon on February 14, 2008, 07:36:09 AM
Habit, mostly. I've gotten myself so used to doing it every day, that I feels weird when I don't now.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Destina Faroda on February 16, 2008, 02:12:18 AM
You mean to tell me that there isn't some part of your brain that just cramps out at the very prospect of making a comic?  Or it goes halfway through and your mind becomes a swirling vortex of confusion and bewilderment that freezes you within a cyclone of paralysis?

I have to say, other than work (because I need the money), there's very little I can do for five days a week on end.  Not even things I enjoy doing.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Darkmoon on February 16, 2008, 12:32:09 PM
There are days where I sit down and don't have an idea, sure, but I'm usually able to beat it out after about 20 minutes or so of thinking.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Destina Faroda on February 16, 2008, 07:42:50 PM
Well, I'm not talking about the idea, but the ability to express that idea.  I mean, haven't you ever actually seen down to the detail how you want to proceed and yet be unable to fashion the canvas to  match the image in your mind?
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Darkmoon on February 17, 2008, 01:39:47 AM
I dunno, not really. I mean, we all know I can't draw, so while I can see in my head what I want to do, I know I won't be able to draw it... but then, I also don't practice drawing 5 to 6 times a week, so my inability to do so is my own fault, really.

When it comes to comicing, if I can see, I do it. I've been doing this for over 5 years now (DSWC and CVRPG). I'm practiced enough that it's just second nature to me. Actually, it's the days that I'm not doing a comic that I feel weird and off-kilter.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Castle Pokemetroid on February 19, 2008, 07:54:54 PM
With that said, how long dose it take for you to finish one?
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Damaris on February 19, 2008, 08:59:26 PM
Usually about 20-30 minutes, including upload time.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Darkmoon on February 19, 2008, 09:00:56 PM
it only takes longer if I have to make sprites.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Destina Faroda on February 20, 2008, 01:02:35 PM
Okay, so other than the Flash DSWC comic, what is the longest it has ever taken you to make a comic?
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Darkmoon on February 20, 2008, 02:39:04 PM
(blinks) Well, you're wanted to know the longest time in recent memory, as opposed to in total, since, early on it took me much longer than it takes me now.

If I have to make a lot of sprites, and heavily edit a background... and lack for ideas... I've seen it take upwards of an hour and a half. But those are rare occurances, really.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Destina Faroda on February 21, 2008, 12:38:57 AM
Only an hour an a half, maximum?

Well, how long did you used to spend?  Six/eight hours?
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Darkmoon on February 21, 2008, 07:34:41 AM
Waaaay back in the day, when I used to recreate all the font glows, and before I was smart enough to make templates for the comics, or save half the stuff I save now, It took me 3 or 4 hours... but that was only for the first year (maybe less than even). I got it down to an hour pretty well after the first year or so.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Destina Faroda on February 21, 2008, 11:53:06 AM
So it's never taken you like eight hours or more to make one?
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Darkmoon on February 21, 2008, 12:01:43 PM
Only those two animated ones for DSWC. I always strived to get the comic into a manageable form so that I wasn't spending an excess amount of time on it. Spend too long, and it starts to feel like work.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Destina Faroda on February 21, 2008, 12:05:12 PM
You know, now that I think about it, I don't think there's very much I've done creatively (comics, writing prose, sprite editing, video work) that didn't take at least eight hours of effort, usually spread over days or weeks.  Not that it shows.

Edit:  Okay, maybe my current avatar only took four if I don't count the time I spent looking for the sprites.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Castle Pokemetroid on February 23, 2008, 02:58:13 PM
Hmm. I acually understand the way you feel about you makin comics Dmoon. When I was making the frames for the thingy in my sig, I felt like I had to do it every day. I even felt that way after finishing it and made two other little vids. But then, shortly after, I learn the existance of photoshop.

I can't even find a way of obtaining it. Once I do, I'll start on another one, but to use paint to make every single little frame in a vid, now that's hard.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 25, 2008, 07:13:28 AM
Try The Gimp, perhaps, instead?
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Destina Faroda on February 25, 2008, 10:33:29 AM
Quote from: Castle Pokemetroid on February 23, 2008, 02:58:13 PM
Hmm. I acually understand the way you feel about you makin comics Dmoon. When I was making the frames for the thingy in my sig, I felt like I had to do it every day. I even felt that way after finishing it and made two other little vids. But then, shortly after, I learn the existance of photoshop.

See, I can get like that for a few days, but the problem is that in the time that it takes for me to do one simple thing, everyone else is miles ahead and that lack of progress causes me to enjoy the activity a lot less.  For a while I thought Photoshop would solve a lot of my problems. Then I actually worked with Photoshop, and it completely overwhelmed me.  I still would love to use it; it's a great program, but it won't grant me any talent, either.

Quote from: Castle Pokemetroid on February 23, 2008, 02:58:13 PMI can't even find a way of obtaining it. Once I do, I'll start on another one, but to use paint to make every single little frame in a vid, now that's hard.

I use Paint for a good 75% of any visual editing I do.  The only times I use GIMP are for arranging objects or for an effect that would be hard to do in Paint.  GIMP and Photoshop are just too unwieldy, in my opinion.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Darkmoon on February 25, 2008, 11:22:22 AM
If I didn't have Photoshop, my comic would take hours, not minutes. Trying to do the things I do with the comic in a less capable program bogs down the whole process.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Daoswarrior2033 on February 25, 2008, 12:56:07 PM
Cool comic man. Hmmmm a cat fight between Sindra and Damaris would be good, a pervets dream come true.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Destina Faroda on February 26, 2008, 12:02:27 AM
Quote from: Darkmoon on February 25, 2008, 11:22:22 AM
If I didn't have Photoshop, my comic would take hours, not minutes. Trying to do the things I do with the comic in a less capable program bogs down the whole process.

Then that's a challenge.  Try to make a special CVRPG without Photoshop.  Heck, just use Paint and Irfanview (for resizing).  Come on, you can DO it!
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Darkmoon on February 26, 2008, 07:22:00 AM
Nope. If I do that, it won't look the same, nor will I be able to go back later and do revisions to it if need be (I have every comic since #70 saved in case of this eventuality, which, considering that I've had to go and do that for the very early comics, is exactly the reason).
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Damaris on February 26, 2008, 07:30:24 AM
Additionally, he's spent YEARS learning how to fully use Photoshop.  Using paint (and increasing the difficulty) isn't going to make him grow as an artist, so the point of increasing the difficulty by using sub-par equipment is completely overshadowed by a "reality-tv-esqe" challenge.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Destina Faroda on February 26, 2008, 10:19:18 PM
Well, if you say no, then that's the end of it.  It would have had some entertainment value for me, though.  What a shame.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Darkmoon on February 27, 2008, 07:31:37 AM
You're the only one that would have found that entertaining.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Castle Pokemetroid on February 29, 2008, 11:42:33 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 25, 2008, 07:13:28 AM
Try The Gimp, perhaps, instead?

Dude, box guy, what teh heck is that? Never heard of it, as I don't have that neither.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 01, 2008, 04:17:07 AM
*sigh* Why you can't just use google, I don't know...

The Gnu Image Manipulation Package, or Gimp. www.gimp.org.

If you're used to photoshop, you can probably find a package for setting Gimp up to look and behave more like photoshop than it does already. It's called GimpShop.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Seth C Triggs on March 01, 2008, 11:32:23 AM
Heh heh well CVRPG is one of my favorite comics. Glad to see that it flows out rather quickly too.

-Seth
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Castle Pokemetroid on March 05, 2008, 01:40:09 AM
Hey box with the confusing name, it says that I must be logged in as a administrator or a member of the power users group when installing the program.

I can't exactly log in as a administrator, so what do I do now? I'm not really used to the installing new programs thing.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 05, 2008, 01:58:23 AM
... are you sure you're posting in the right place, Castle?
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Castle Pokemetroid on March 08, 2008, 05:48:31 PM
Yeah. By administarator, I mean the one for my computer. I can't download stuff if I'm not that, appearently.
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 09, 2008, 05:42:26 AM
You should be fine downloading, as long as you're not actually trying to install it...
Title: Re: 12/02/08 [TotF #75] - Not a shocker realy
Post by: Castle Pokemetroid on March 14, 2008, 11:41:38 PM
Wait, there's a difference? Anyways, I got it now, but the damn thing won't run. The exact same message appears. Why must seemingly simple things be so hard for me?